1 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 2 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: on your war Room for insider news and draft analysis 3 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: from deep within the confines at Cowboys headquarters at Valley Ranch. 4 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys Selection by R Joe and now your 5 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought us. We 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: are back at our home base here at Valley Ranch 7 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: for the Draft show from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. I 8 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: am Brian brought us along with Dane Brugler from CBS 9 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com and joined here today 10 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: by Dave's replaces. Yeah, Tay what Taylor Stern steps into 11 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: the chair. Yes, I felt like I had to dress 12 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: like him, you know, so the transition was easier for viewing. 13 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: Honny Jim, that kid's gonna kill us now with all 14 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: drops exactly, here we go. Yeah, No, Dave is on assignment. 15 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: Is that what you said? Yeah, Dave's on assignment doing 16 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: some Louisiana scouting, Maudi, girl, you gotta go scout that 17 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and he's comparing it probably to last 18 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: week's mobile exactly. So he's just doing some comparing and 19 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: contrasting absolutely, which I appreciate him studying. Well, we're grateful 20 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: for you to be here today and and you were 21 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: a part of a lot of the things going on 22 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. So I'm interested to get your 23 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: take on only what you saw, but some of the 24 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: interaction you had with the players. Kent Garrison is the 25 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: executive producer today as always, and we thank him for 26 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: doing that. The Draft Show today again, like you say, 27 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: we're back here next WBC Morgage Studio. I want to 28 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: wrap up the Senior Bowl, guys, is what I want 29 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: to do. We haven't had a chance to talk about it. 30 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: What we saw in the game, did a lot of 31 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: things for Dallas Cowboys dot Com, some videos up, how 32 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: guys played, some content as far as written stuff or 33 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: what we saw. Going to get into Twitter on the twenty. 34 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: That's where we have an opportunity for you out there 35 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: to fire us a question at the Draft Show. That's 36 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: the best way to get a hold of us. Kent 37 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 1: does a nice job of managing the account and then 38 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: also pushing out things that we are going to do, 39 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: whether it's from the Senior Bowl, the Combine, Draft Show, information, 40 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: anything you need to know at the Draft Show. That's 41 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: where your questions need to be answered, and Tay's gonna 42 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: step in for Dave and handle that today. We're also 43 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: going to take a look at Dane's mock draft that 44 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: he did for CBS Sports on Monday, and what I 45 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: want to do, guys with that is I'd like to 46 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: get in only with what the Cowboys are gonna do, 47 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: but maybe some of the players around why you had 48 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: certain guys at certain levels. I'm excited to see, Like 49 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: at the end of the draft. I don't know about you, Dane. 50 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: I got eighteen names so far, pending any physicals or 51 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: any problems of first round players. Eighteen, so there's thirty 52 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: one guys that are gonna get select in the first round. 53 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: You've got some interesting names that back into that draft 54 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: that I want to get to. Yeah. When I saw 55 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: Dane tweet that out, I looked at it immediately because 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: obviously I trust his opinion and some of them, I 57 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: was like, I have to ask him about this. I'm 58 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: excited about the opportunity. Good we're gonna get. Yeah, we're 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: gonna get into that. And then, like we said, we're 60 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: gonna take some calls today at the excuse me, towards 61 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: the end of the show. I'd like to get your questions. 62 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: I'd like to get your comments. I'd like to hear 63 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: your voice that you can reach us. It's on the 64 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: screen right here as you see eight eight eight eight 65 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: five five two two ninety seven. We're gonna do that 66 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the show, try and get through 67 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: as many of those as we can. The way you 68 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: can help us do that is by just hey, get 69 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: to your question. We're all doing great, we're having a 70 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: good time, happy to be talking about the draft. So 71 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: with all that being said, we were immobile Alabama. We are. 72 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: We did what we always talked about. We investigate and 73 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: now we're going to educate, right and that's something we 74 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: always focus here on the Draft show. And Dane, I 75 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: want to ask your opinion of what you thought of 76 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: the week. A lot of you know, some of the 77 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: top players you had. I thought there was a tremendous 78 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: amount of pressure on Carson Wentz going into this, the 79 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: fact that he was the Cowboys. He was on the 80 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys team. We talked about it during the week. Sure 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: felt like that maybe some of the times he had 82 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: probably maybe tried to do a little too much. But 83 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: what did you see from the game. Did you gain 84 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: anything from the game any different opinion about Carson Wentz 85 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: as we speak today, I don't think so. I think 86 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: the game reflected how his week of practice was pressed 87 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: a little bit but was able to settle himself down. 88 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: And you saw all the traits, you know, at full display, 89 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: with the size of the arm, strength, his mobility, the 90 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: way he handles himself out there. Just that type of 91 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: stage did not seem too big for him. You know, 92 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: coming from the FCS level, you don't know how he's 93 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: going to respond. But throughout the week and during the game, yes, 94 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: you did see him pressed a little bit, and that's understandable. 95 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: But I thought it was far more good than bad 96 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: with Carson Wayans. And I know that the final stats 97 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: didn't look great, but he made good throws. He made 98 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: NFL style throws. He saw the placement, he saw a 99 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: little bit of a hitch, maybe thinking too much at times, 100 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: but he was still able to deliver and complete passes. 101 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: So Carson once I thought, I had a very good week, 102 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: and it only confirmed that he's going to be in 103 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: the conversation to be that first quarterback draft. Yeah, Taylor, 104 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: you had a chance to interact with him on another level, 105 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: with some of the social media stuff you were doing 106 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: for Dallas Cowboys, I what kind of feeling it. Dane 107 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: painted a pretty a very accurate picture. What about him personally, 108 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: though you had some interaction with him as well. Well. 109 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: The first thing I noticed about him we didn't get 110 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: to talk to him on the way and day, which 111 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: I was kind of bummed about. But he was the 112 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: biggest name, so he just kind of ran through right, 113 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: which is understandable because other people had more time. The 114 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: first thing I noticed was that when Jerry Jones arrived 115 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: to the practice, he made it a point to go 116 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: up and talk to him, right, And I filmed that 117 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: and Carson was y, you know, comfortable. He didn't act like, 118 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: oh I'm star struck or right, this is someone I 119 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: need to impress. He was very comfortable, seemed relaxed, seemed dead, 120 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: He's you know. It was a pleasant conversation. But the 121 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: second thing that I noticed was that in his postgame 122 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: press commerce I watched it, he seemed very rehearsed, which 123 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: is sure true to all of these guys that are 124 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: coming through a job interview. But the thing that I 125 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: noticed was that he didn't have exact details. I don't 126 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: know if he's just trying to articulate everything that he's 127 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: going through or what he's trying to say, but they 128 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: seem very generic, is it. That's something that you see 129 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: often with these quarterbacks who are just trying to impress. Well. 130 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: Do you think he might be a little programmed right, well? 131 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: And or just maybe he's a little nervous about I 132 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: think more talked about not being on the scared on 133 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: the big stage. Though as a player, this is a 134 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: very very smart individual right on the field and off. 135 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: He knows all eyes are on him or right he's saying, 136 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: so he is a little guarded with what he's saying. 137 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, he felt guarded. That's a perfect word, right, Dane, 138 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: because it felt like he wasn't saying exactly what he 139 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: wanted to say. Well, and like you mentioned, it's a 140 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: job interview, and he knows it. He's very aware of 141 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: what this opportunity means and what it could mean for 142 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: his draft standing. So I think, you know, I don't 143 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: want to look too much into that, but I do think, uh, 144 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, he's a very smart guy, and so he 145 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: was very aware of all eyes being on him. What's 146 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: he gonna say and how he's going to respond. So 147 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: the awareness really stands out there. Yeah, I think that 148 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: watching him practice during the way can I even said 149 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: it on some of the shows we did, the draft 150 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: show during the week that I thought he was trying 151 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: to do a little too much. So for the game, 152 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: I didn't feel like though his receivers really helped him 153 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: at all. Now and I and we even showed it 154 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot com ball placement. You mentioned that earlier. 155 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: I mean the thing that I the question I had 156 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: for him after the game postgame was and then again 157 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: we had the video up on Dallas Cowboys dot com 158 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: is he was talking about getting back to California and 159 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: working on some things. And there's some things you saw 160 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: him in the pocket, the footwork, I mean to take 161 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: in the snaps, And I asked him, was that was 162 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: that something that you tried in the game. Was it 163 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: something that he said? No, No, I went back to 164 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: what you know, what I knew. And there's sometimes when 165 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: you watch him on North Dakota tape, the feet dude 166 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: bounced a little bit in the pocket, you know, And 167 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: and he had on the fourth and five throw that 168 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: he made. I mean, he just let it fly, but 169 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: it was just his you know, mechanics were bad and 170 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: he was trying to you know, maybe he should have 171 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: thrown the ball to Peyton, the UCLA receiver underneath and 172 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: fight for another day. But he tried to make the 173 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: big time throw to the outside to Braxton Miller. And 174 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: you said that he models his play after Aaron Rodgers, 175 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: So he's trying. He's thinking. I've heard in the past 176 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: when these quarterbacks are going through this draft process, they 177 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: get asked a million times, who are you emulating your game? After? 178 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's things like that. So they watch a 179 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: lot of tape they see what these guys in the 180 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: league already successfully are doing. So and when I talked 181 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: to Carson back in October, footwork was the first thing 182 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: he yeah when I said, okay, obviously you're talented, but 183 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: give me something you can work on, and footwork was 184 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: his first response. And so he's very aware. And that's 185 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: one thing I love about Golf and I love about Wentz. 186 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: And I don't have a good I'm not saying packs 187 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: the Lynch doesn't do this. I kind of a good 188 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: feeling forget, but the ability to self evaluate they understand 189 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: where they can get better and what they can work on. 190 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: And that self awareness is huge. And for Carson, he's 191 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: very smart, like I mentioned, and sometimes it's almost like 192 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: he thinks too much out there. You know, you want 193 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: to be able to see him. Uh. You know, it's 194 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: good that he's going through his res hie to low, 195 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, but sometimes he's passing up uh. You know, 196 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: a window that might not be you know, open by 197 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: a large margin, but in the NFL that's open. You 198 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: have to hit it. And so sometimes I just want 199 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: to see him think less and just react. I think 200 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: you make a great point because there's some throws he 201 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: made again to the outside. Uh, you know, on the 202 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: third down play, I think it was the more Chris Moore. 203 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean he hits, Yeah, he hits Chris Moore. He's 204 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: stand in the middle of the pocket and it's disintegrating 205 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: and he's standing there and he lets that thing fly 206 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: and exactly and it gets there. You know, NFL ball, 207 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: not a college I mean NFL ball, And it's right 208 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: where more has to make that catch. That's a catch 209 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: that and then Burbridge in practice on the slant I 210 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: showed that one too. It clangs off these are NFL 211 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: type throws, you know, And so where where I have 212 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: him in my mind is I had him in that 213 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: twenty to twenty eight kind of range. But you might 214 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: be right about you know, you know, and we'll get 215 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: it on your mock draft because you put him in 216 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: a different spot. But I don't think we know where 217 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: any of these quarterbacks are gonna go. That That's the 218 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: problem I'm running into right now, is that, Okay, is 219 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: he better than I have him? Still behind the other two? 220 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: In my mind, I still have him in Paxson Lynch. 221 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: It's no secret. I've talked about it a bunch on 222 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: Twitter and all that. Paxon Lynch is my guy, you know. 223 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: But this team, you know, at four quarterbacks in play, 224 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: yea quarterback is definitely in play. And and I want 225 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: to ask you though, it had to be a huge 226 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: It had to be a very beneficial for for Carson 227 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: Wentz to be able to work with the Cowboy coaches. 228 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that was sbsolutely and you knew that that 229 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: was going to be his biggest benefit because on the 230 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: other side it was Jacoby Bursaid and Jay Coker, and 231 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: those are good quarterbacks. But for him to get the attention. 232 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: And I remember hearing from a couple of the scouts, 233 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: just in whispers in the halls about Carson Wentz before 234 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: he was even this name, that he's become right closer 235 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: to the draft. Right. But I had heard of him 236 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: from a couple of scouts. Hey take a look at hey, 237 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: And I was like, who is this guy? I had 238 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: heard of North Dakota State obviously winning five national championships. 239 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: But yes, to work with the coaches and to be 240 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: with Garrett and Wade Wilson and Scott Lanahan one on 241 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: one them to see, oh, you know what, this guy 242 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: is good. He needs to just stop over analyzing everything 243 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: and we can help him with that, with confidence and 244 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: you know, working through things, just study. Yeah, So they'll 245 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: see that and they'll take that into consideration. The quarterback 246 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: lights you up there, I mean, and not to the 247 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: point where you're gonna make it's this massive two three 248 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: round run right, No, And there was nothing like that. 249 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: It's obviously Carson Wentz than these other guys. Right. Um. 250 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: I like Jeff Driscoll, I think the tools are there. 251 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: I worry about um. You know, we mentioned it was 252 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, but with Driscoll thinking too much. I don't 253 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: know how quick he sees things, doesn't anticipate. I worry 254 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: about that. Brandon Allan from kans There you go. I'm 255 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: leaving the horse to water here. I'm a Brandon Allen fan. Sure, 256 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: a couple of I mean eight and a half inch 257 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: hands at the way end, it's a red flag right 258 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: especial he's gonna tell He's gonna tell you well, and 259 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: you know it's it's not like bigger hands means you're 260 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: a bigger quarterback, but smaller hands. There are concerns because 261 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: of ball security. You know, your grip on the ball, 262 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: especially if you go to a place like Cleveland. Yes, 263 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to deal with some bad weather. 264 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: Um it's more about a threshold. You know. For a 265 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: lot of NFL teams, unless you have nine a quarter 266 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: in chance, they won't even consider you. Right. So for 267 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: Brandon Allen, uh, he needed to go to practice in 268 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: the game and show well, and I think he did. 269 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: And I think he has great tape to back to 270 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: back it up. Absolutely was the best quarterback in the 271 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: SEC this past year. Um, So I think Brandon Allen 272 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: he has the tape that's gonna make scouts take notice. 273 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: But the physical limitations you worry a little bit about that. 274 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: Is he better than an AJ McCarron. See, that's what 275 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: And now that's now when you start started hard, because 276 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: we've seen AJ mccarren start in the NFL and he's done. Okay, yeah, 277 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: can I can Brandon Allen. But it's the same I 278 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: mean the same kind of physical traits. I mean maybe 279 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: not the small hands, but just the game. I think 280 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: he throws the ball better than AJ McCarn Yeah, And 281 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't think you're wrong. I do think that Brandon Allen, 282 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: And he's the type of guy. I'm not sure he's 283 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: a starter at the NFL level, but I think he 284 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: can be like an AJ McCarron, step in if you 285 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: need him for a couple of stars. Right, And so 286 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: I think Brandon Allen. You're talking about the top quarterbacks 287 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: in this group, the top seniors. Brandon Allen's probably somewhere 288 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: in the top five seniors. Many tiers of quarterbacks do 289 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: you have in your mind? How many quarterbacks do you have? 290 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: What's hard? Because this quarterback class is so deep. I 291 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: mean last year we had what six quarterbacks drafted? This 292 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: year we might We're gonna have a dozen, okay, But 293 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying though, at the level, you have the 294 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: three that you think about, and then you have and 295 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: now it's that exactly, and then that third tier you 296 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: have that middle round guys that you think you can develop, 297 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: like the Jeff Driscolls, and I think Brandon Allen's probably 298 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: in there as well. Um, and then you have a 299 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: later round guys. So I think Allan's probably in that 300 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: middle round tier. You know the guy in the in 301 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: the six round, would he'd be better? A better Hogan better, 302 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: Briset better? And this is where you get you talk 303 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: about ice cream flavor. It's gonna be different around the 304 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: league because I know a lot of scouts like Hogan 305 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: and the intangibles of leadership. But in terms of pure 306 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: of quarterback play, I like Alan better. Yeah, and I 307 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: think and there are a lot of people that agree 308 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: with that. But again, the eight and a half inch 309 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: hands and a lot of these old physically he doesn't. 310 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: We're the press box, we're watching him. He looks smaller 311 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: than all the other quarterbacks. Stuff that Connor Cook, he 312 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: brought up the name Connor Cooked. You're here. I wanted 313 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: to say something about Brandon Allen as far as meeting him, Okay, oh, okay, 314 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: he is an extremely impressive guy. Okay. He was the 315 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: first guy I spoke with, So I might be biased 316 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: just because he made a first impression. Yeah, but he 317 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: knew all of these things. Like you're talking about self awareness. 318 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: He was saying these things when our guys were interviewing 319 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: him and saying, yes, I know I have smaller hands, 320 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: Yes I know what you know. I played at Arkansas, 321 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: did these things. He is extremely self aware, at least 322 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: he seemed that way. Yeah. And you know the fact 323 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: is is that what he did at Arkansas was he 324 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: really developed night and day. You know the first two years. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. 325 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: Over the summer, Yeah, undrafted grades that didn't even gi 326 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: him a chance. This past year as a senior, like 327 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: I said, the best quarterback in the SEC, he helped 328 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: himself tremendously over the last year. Well, you talk to 329 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: people who follow Arkansas and they'll tell you he stopped 330 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: making mistakes. He was a quarterback that was prone to 331 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: make bad mistakes. And if you watched the Toledo game, 332 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: it's one of the first ones. You're like a couple 333 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: of mistakes there in the red Son, you know, cost 334 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: him an opportunity. But then you watch the Old Miss 335 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: game and he's letting it rip. And I thought it 336 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, I thought he was the most consistent 337 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: quarterback when you talk about practice all the way through practice, 338 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: some of these quarterbacks had days where they were this, 339 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: and then they go this, and then they'd come back 340 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: and then you know, so I was I was interested 341 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: in that Prescott gets the player of the game. Yeah, 342 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: I thought that. I thought that Brandon Allen out played 343 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: him myself, I think so. I mean the production was better. 344 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean Prescott, give him credit. He you know, show 345 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: the team down on a scoring drive. But so to 346 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: Brandon Allen, Right, Brandon Allen had a good week. And 347 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: it's fair to point out too, the only reason Brandon 348 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: Allen was there is because Connor Cook pulled out, right, 349 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: the only reason if Connor Cook decide, Conner could decide 350 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: to go to Mobile. We don't see Brandon Allen. I'm 351 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: watching him at the Shrine game. So, um, well, good 352 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: USC quarterbacks should have taken a hike out something about that. 353 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: Decon dec Allen the helmet yea helps, Yeah, but for 354 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: good for Brandon Allen to get that opportunity and take well, 355 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: he maybe maybe elevating himself again. I'm not talking about 356 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: a massive running up the board, but at least people 357 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: have a little bit better idea. He does look small, 358 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: I mean, but I'm kind of thinking I'm looking at 359 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: a Jay McCarron, and I'm thinking he's a better a 360 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: J McCarron. In my mind, I'm just watching back and 361 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: buy that. Okay, defensive, I'll skip the defensive tackles because 362 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: we always talk about the defensive, but they seem to 363 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: be I mean Dolphins Washington though and then and then 364 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: talk about all the ranking. Didn't get to see him 365 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: in the game because of injury. But to me sellon 366 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: rankins he in my top fifty board that I released 367 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: before the Senior Bowl. I had him at twenty two. 368 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: He's moving up. He's better than the twenty second player 369 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: in this draft class. Uh Noah Spence East there ago, Yeah. 370 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he was fantastic all week, the best pass 371 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: rusher um in Mobile and you can make the argument 372 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: he's the best pass rusher in this draft. I say 373 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: it all the time on Twitter, and you know what, 374 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. I have no problem throwing out 375 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: there that Noah Spence Kentucky is it. And you're an 376 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: Ohio State guy. You follow Ohio State though, and you 377 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: you know his history as far as when he was 378 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: at Ohio State, right better than Bosa am I right about? Yeah? 379 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: And as a pass rusher, absolutely so. And to be fair, 380 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: we talk a lot about Spence and how good he 381 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: is as a pass rusher. He has some issues against 382 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: the run. She's not a perfect prospect by any rides. 383 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: But you look at the Super Bowl teams that we have, 384 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: they can get to the quarterback, especially the Broncos. And 385 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: so if Noah Spence, if he can get to the 386 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL, he's gonna play for a long time. 387 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: And as long as he stays clean off the field, 388 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: which a lot of people are believers in him. That's 389 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: why I think he's gonna end up in the first round, 390 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: even though his baggage says I'm a second third round pick, 391 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: project kind of guy, like a Tyron Matthew was. I 392 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: think someone's gonna take a chance. Yeah, there's a lot 393 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: of people right now that are looking at Tyron Matthew 394 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: and going, oh, how stupid do we feel? Yeah? Well, 395 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: it's tough. You have to take in each individual and 396 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: that's trick him down and trigure out what makes him tick. 397 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't. I've heard some good things 398 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: coming out of the interview process at the Senior Bowl, 399 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: the way Spence handled himself. And again I've I've talked 400 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: to his former coaches. I've talked to his former teammates. 401 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: They all speak very highly of him as a person. 402 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: More of a bad mistake, you know, type of thing, 403 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: but nothing that's, you know, long term that you really 404 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: have to worry about. Reminds me of a smaller version 405 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: of Robert Quinn than rammed out. Oh yeah, absolutely, fact, 406 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: did you get to meet with any of the defensive 407 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: line and anybody get to talk so about no spense. 408 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: I had known about that storyline going into the week, 409 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: and I'd read a couple of different articles I just 410 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: found and I thought it was interesting though, because sometimes 411 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: when you've seen these guys make these mistakes as far 412 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: as what he did, and that was an addiction, Right, 413 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: he went to Eastern Kentucky and he still continued to 414 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: produce well and maybe he still had a high performance, right, 415 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: which is interesting because if he was this guy who's 416 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: still struggling or something. You might have seen him kind 417 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: of even now plateau or even decrease in certain things. 418 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: But what I appreciate but appreciate about him is that 419 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: he's continuing to excel and work harder and show like 420 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: you're saying, this was a mistake, and you know, I'm 421 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: learning from it. I'm hoping to get better. I still 422 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: have this possibility and dream. And one area where he 423 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: deserves a lot of credit is after he got kicked 424 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: out of Ohio State, he almost went pro, and he 425 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: had that opportunity. He would have been drafted probably in 426 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: the six seventh round, sure, but he decided to transfer 427 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: to rebuild that draft stock and show that, hey, I'm 428 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: a good player. He was drug tested over a dozen 429 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: times at Eastern Kentucky. He told the coaches, please drug 430 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: test me as much as possible, and he passed every test. 431 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: So now you know, going forward, where is he going 432 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: to end up in the draft. He's a wildcard, true 433 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: wild card, but again somewhere in the top twenty, somebody's 434 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: gonna get announced. Players and and and you said, case 435 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: by case, Will McClay and I asked him about that 436 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: box players. You know, case by case, Brian, it's you 437 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: know some days, you know you got to figure it out. 438 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: You were talking about, hey, his game is going this 439 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: way as far as off the field stuff, you're talking 440 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: about his ability real quick. Before we go to break though, 441 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: the talk of the buzz of practice was another Ohio 442 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: State guy, Braxton Miller, and so again another wildcard potentially. 443 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you've talked about him as a top sixty 444 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: type player though he is, and I had him in 445 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: my first round mock this this week. I think that 446 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: it would not shock me at all if he ends 447 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: up there. You look at some of these receivers that 448 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: have gone first round and you know the past couple 449 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: of years in the late first round, Braxon Miller can 450 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: certainly end up there. He's still it's clear that he 451 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: obviously needs a lot of work mechanically with his routes. 452 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: You know, we saw him take five six steps at 453 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: the top of route, so he still needs work. He 454 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: had to drop pass in the game, but he impressed 455 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: me with his hands throughout the week, very natural, quick reflexes. 456 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: So I think Braxon Miller, he's going to be more 457 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: of a gadget player as a rookie. But by year two, 458 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: he's gonna be pushing for a start out role. So 459 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: you had a chance to meet with Braxon Miller. Yeah, 460 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: Braxon Miller stepped aside and talked to us. He's got 461 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: the flash, he and he knows it. He exactly, you know, 462 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: he knows that, Hey, I was this big stug quarterback, right, 463 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: I decided that the best thing for my game is 464 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: to take the wide receiver game. And he's just got 465 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: he's got this air about him. Deva like very much. 466 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: So Scott, this is diva. You know my name, I 467 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: don't know your name kind of thing, which is an 468 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: NFL wide receiver, right, the flash but what I don't 469 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: even know your name? But yeah, it does knows. So 470 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: the thing that I would worry about him is that 471 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: he's going to go in and be like, I'm fine, 472 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: they want me on their team. I'm a name, you 473 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: want me. Yeah, we'll see the interesting guy though. I 474 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: mean he's a he's a he's an interesting cat. He's 475 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: been Columbus and Ohio State media have been all over him. 476 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: So he's very well rehearsed. And you know he's been 477 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: through all this before all these questions. He used to 478 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: this exposure. Carson Wentz is probably not in Braxon. He's 479 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: a true competitor. The biggest concern I have with him 480 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: can he stay healthy? Yeah? I think the durability. It's 481 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: a little different when you're going over the middle and 482 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: you have safeties and linebackers about to pop you. So 483 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: I think Braxon Miller can be a good pro. Biggest 484 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: thing I worry about Kenny stay healthy. Yeah, And that's 485 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: funny you say that, and then I'll let you get 486 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: to break. But Wednesday, we're watching practice and he sits 487 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: down with doctor Jim walks over and I'm like, yeah, 488 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: not get trainer Jim. Yeah. I'm like, oh no, but 489 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: he was fine. But you're right, well, that he made 490 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: through the game in that is key. But I think 491 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: he's another one. He's walker. I like what you're saying. 492 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: Top sixty could very well be a first round player. Okay, 493 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna to step aside here for just a moment. 494 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: We'll be back from the SWBC Mortgage studios. You're listening 495 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: to the Draft show, and we right back Papa John here. 496 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: People say, oh, think about a pizza. That's not true. 497 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: I spend a lot of time thinking about what to 498 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: eat with My Pizza introducing our new garlic knots. 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As always, we 538 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: always appreciate the interaction we have with the fans, the 539 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: folks that maybe are cowboy fans, maybe the guy's gals 540 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: that aren't cowboy fans that were uns fan already asking 541 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: you a question. That's good and we encourage that. And 542 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little segment that that Ed K 543 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: Hill came up with several years ago. We got the 544 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: show started called Twitter on the twenty, Twitter on the twenty. 545 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: It's nice to have our little uh big voice guy 546 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: bring that back, uh do Usually David Hellman's in the chair, 547 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: but Taylor Stern was nice enough to come in and 548 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: uh substitute. A matter of fact, Dave might be substituted 549 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: for permanently. He's not good. He's not very good enough. 550 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: He's not now. He's not so now we'll know if 551 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: you listened or not. He's he's out. He knows I 552 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: would be talking badly about him. All right, take us 553 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: take us down the past. It's gonna go as I 554 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: see them. And if I mess up your name. I apologize. 555 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm just reading them as quickly and as easy as 556 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: I can. Sounds good, okay. Philippe wants to know who 557 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: are the RBS running backs fitting in our scheme that 558 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: could be available round three to five. We'll get that 559 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: a crack there. Dane guy we saw in mobile with 560 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: Kenneth Thick. Oh, how about that. It's a good start. 561 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he some people think he might go in 562 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: the second round. I think third rounds kind of the 563 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: spot for him. To me. Yeah, he has a lot 564 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: of a lot of miles on his on him, but 565 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: you know, I think he can do everything well. I 566 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: don't think he stands out in one particular area. This 567 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: is what he does really well, right, But he's just 568 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: steady across the board, catch a ball in the backfield, quickness, power, 569 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: a lot of things there that you want. Yeah, and 570 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what too. Make sure you check out 571 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: Booker two from Utah, precise from Notre Dame. I'm talking 572 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: about Howard from Indiana Collins Art. These are all guys 573 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: at Yeah, someone's gonna figure this out. Maybe more like 574 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: Tay two three four, kind of those kind of in 575 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: that middle of the thing. If you want to go 576 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: down a little bit further in the draft though. You 577 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: know I didn't mention Henry. I know some people have 578 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: Henry little higher. I know you would probably got Kelvin 579 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: Taylor from Florida would be another one. Taylor's son, Fred 580 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: Taylor's son. I was with mc Jacksoncuy. I'm an old man. 581 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: I time Fred Taylor's Florida. But yeah, those are the 582 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: types of names, Drake Perkins, Urban, these are all. It's 583 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: a good run of running backs suit there if you 584 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: want to just suit out this entire draft. Okay, next one, 585 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: we lack speed at wide receiver. Who's on your radar 586 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: that can help with special teams in round three or 587 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: four special teams receiver? So I'm first thought I thought 588 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: was Braxton Miller was doing some punt return stuff. He 589 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: obviously has a natural speed, but he probably is not 590 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: a three or four guy A bunch Moore Fuller from 591 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: rootre Dame. Yeah, he's he'll take the top off a defense. Yeah. Now, 592 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: he's a player that I think similar to Devin Smith 593 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: last year. He can step in, he can, he can 594 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: work as a gunner, he can, he can help you 595 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: out on special teams. I was just talking about speed, 596 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: how about made the May kid from Miss j He 597 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: impressed Mail. Yeah, in Mobile. I liked him in Minnesota, 598 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: but you know, obviously under size, not the fastest, but 599 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: he's quick, very quick, and so I said, he's very 600 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: Duayne Harrislide because he had two tackles on special teams, 601 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: on a kickoff team, and then also they threw him, 602 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: they ran him on some reverses. They tried to get 603 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: him to football. He was one of if you watched 604 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: when the Jacksonville coaches Jerry soul Of my old guy, 605 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: when they were doing the stock and engaged drills. He 606 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 1: was going at it with side Jones and kJ May. 607 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: He's a Mobile native and so a lot of us thought, well, 608 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 1: he's getting the mercy. And he played if he belonged there. 609 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: He was one of the top five receivers of the 610 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: Minnesota May. Keep an eye on our guy, Damien Wilson 611 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: here was pumping him all week. Minnesota guy. All right, 612 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: let's just make this one quick, justin who are you 613 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: taking at four between Jack and Spence? To me, it's Jack. 614 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: I mean I like Spence quite a bit. To me, Jack, 615 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: he's see, that's what we're going to get a bunch 616 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: of these questions, so we'll just rule through ut. Yeah, 617 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: would you guys prefer Jack or Elliott plus a third? Okay? There, 618 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: somebody's talking about it, like talking about moving back and 619 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: picking up an extra pick in this draft and to 620 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: get Elliott, you're gonna go out of the top ten. 621 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: A you're gonna keep it and you can stay inside 622 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: the top ten. Well, if I want, if my purpose 623 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: of moving back is to get Elliott, then I feel 624 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: like I have to get him within the top ten. 625 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: I mean I look at the Giants number ten. Yeah, 626 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: I think that's a possibility. There's some other spots. So 627 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: people say they might go defense there. Oh I think, 628 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: oh yeah, sure absolutely. But it's similar to the Rams 629 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: last year, where you know they thought the Rams are 630 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: gonna do but at some point Zeke just is too 631 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: good to pass up. And with all Ben mculdoo, the 632 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: Giant's head coach, you know he wants balance, you know, 633 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: he's a passing guy. The chance to bring in Zeke, 634 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's going to happen, but has a 635 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: good chance to happen. They can take the running back 636 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: in the third. Get ready. Yeah, when I read that, 637 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: on your mock draft this week. I was like, Oh, no, 638 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna just be you know, facing the Giants two 639 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: times a year. We got a zeke on the ground, 640 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: we got Odell over here, And I was like, no, 641 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: that's why it's a possibility, because every other team in 642 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: the division's gonna have that same reaction. Oh, it's just brutal. 643 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: When I saw that, was like, they could do that, 644 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: and it would be extremely smart. You would have to 645 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: find a way. Then you got to find a trading partner, 646 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: and you gotta find somebody that's willing to dance up 647 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: there and who wants to trade up. And that's what 648 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna try. And and we got to figure out 649 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: though in this draft, folks, when you ask these questions, 650 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: figure out what you're coming for. I mean, hey, which 651 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: it sounds real nice and easy. Hey, Jerry's gonna pick 652 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: up the phone. Hey, San Francisco, we want your third. 653 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: You know, you need something, You need somebody, and it 654 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: might be it might be what if bosas on the 655 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: board or somebody that somebody coverts, you know, maybe the 656 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: receiver they cover it. Maybe it's Jack they cover it. 657 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: Dallas is in a good position, get a guy, especially 658 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: like you say, a lot of people have or higher 659 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: on Bosa than I am. And that's okay. But the quarterbacks, quarterbacks, 660 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: to look at the Rams sitting there, they're moving to La. Yeah, 661 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: who's their quarterback? Nick Foley, case Keenum. They need a 662 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: quarterback and the face of the franchise. Do they wait 663 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: at fifteen and hope a pass fish you're moving? Do 664 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: they love someone enough that, hey, I'm gonna move up 665 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: and get my quarterback. I'm not gonna hope they're thinking. 666 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm sending out these brochures for people to buy season 667 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: tickets and we're gonna put Nick Foles out. Wait a minute, 668 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: did you guys just tell me you're gonna drop from 669 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: four to fifteen to make I'm just saying possible trade partners. 670 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean, in order to trade back guys, our teams 671 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: have to want to move up and just looking at 672 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: teams that might want to have that in claim the 673 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: Rams are aggressive team. You're right right out there, okay, Drain, 674 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: I hope I said that right? What draft great do 675 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: you give Martin? After the Senior Bowl? Nick Martin? Nick Martin, 676 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: he was a third rounder going away though he was 677 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: a third round or third round when we leave, I 678 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: gotta can play center or guard. Just a not quite 679 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: as physically gifted version of his brother, right, So that 680 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: versatility's key. But I thought he had a nice week 681 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: in movie. You know, he's not as strong. I'll say 682 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: he's a he's a great position I mean just position 683 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: block or kind of thing. Blithe, the kid from Iowa, 684 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: I thought was the best center in the day. Yeah, 685 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: and I like what he did playing guard too. Keep 686 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: an eye on Blie. I like Jack Allen better the 687 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: Michigan State set. Okay, yeah, both these big ten guys. 688 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: What and Jack Allen he looks he doesn't look like 689 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: he belongs on an NFL just not physically impressive, but 690 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: low man wins. He understands that. Yeah, and he works 691 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: hard to finish. So I think Jack Allen really impressed 692 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: Jack Allen on tape. I agree with what you're saying. 693 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: People are gonna fall in love with Kelly from Alabama. 694 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: I think it's a good year. If you need a center, 695 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: very good you can find. Again, a lot of teams 696 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: do a fourth round. We're going to see these centers 697 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: come off the board, absolutely all right. I've seen a 698 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: couple of these questions. So let's just get this out 699 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: of the way. What is the total amount of picture 700 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: including picks for the Cowboys? Well, we won't know until yeah, officially, 701 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: officially until the owner's meetings here and the first weekend 702 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: in Marching. Like that, right, they're thinking that doubt. And 703 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: I've just seen some projections. A four and three sixes 704 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: is what I've heard from from just projections. Again, don't 705 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: take me to tap, but that that's some people have 706 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: done some research on this and what the balance is? 707 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: It sound like a four and potentially three sixes to 708 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: go with that. So you don't have a fifth, Yeah, 709 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: you don't have a fifth. So add everything else up 710 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: with what I next thing on. It's really on our 711 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: radar as the combine coming up, that's gonna be there 712 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: February twenty third, twenty fourth, something like that, and then 713 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: after that that's well, have a better idea of the 714 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: projection and the three sixes potentially. How do you feel 715 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: about drafting Dak Prescott in the three four rounds? Maybe 716 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: a way to get immediate playmakers and a quarterback to develop, 717 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: and I think it's clay. What do you what do 718 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: you think Dak Prescott can be. Do you think he 719 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: could be a future starter? To me, I don't. I 720 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: think it could be a solid backup in this league. 721 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: I give him a lot of credit. Last year I 722 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: thought he was a thrower. Yeah, you know, I don't 723 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: like the way he throws. I mean I like his 724 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: throwing ideal, Right, but he's he said a lot of 725 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: records in the SEC. Well, he and he became much 726 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: more of a passer this past year. I mean you 727 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: could see it develop it and I give him a 728 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: lot of credit. I think he is a much better 729 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: version of Tim Tebow. I mean, he's what people wanted 730 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow to be when he was in the league 731 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 1: when he was drafted first round. That's who Dak Prescott 732 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: could be. But at the same time, I'm not sure 733 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: I see an NFL starter. I see a guy that 734 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: can be a backup. So where how early do you 735 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: feel comfortable drafting a backup? To me? That's more fourth ka. 736 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: We talked about the levels of levels of quarterback. Where 737 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: does he fit in the levels of quarterbacks? Probably in 738 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: there with Dress, Drift School and Allen Yeah, you right 739 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: after them, Hogan, right exactly in that middle rounds. Yeah, 740 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 1: it'd be interesting how these quarterbacks come off the board. 741 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: And that's interesting that you're talking about how deep this 742 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: class is, because what you're going to have from this 743 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: class is you're going to have a couple of Matt Castles, 744 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,959 Speaker 1: people who have been in the league for a very 745 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: long time. They've benefited from being kind of a professional 746 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: backup for lack of a better term, and we may 747 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: see that come out of this class, especially because a 748 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: lot of these guys are kind of like that, you 749 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: just swarm on your team. He's been preaching this all along, 750 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: and I think he's right. I'm finally catching up to 751 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 1: you on this. A lot of guys maybe not potential starters, 752 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: but then but all of a sudden, you use them 753 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: as a backup and then they get it and like 754 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: just what Tay said, all of a sudden, you're seeing 755 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: a guy and it's like, oh, we remember talking about 756 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: him on the Draft show. It really didn't Fitzpatrick. Yeah, 757 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: we didn't. We didn't feel like he was Yeah, we 758 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: didn't feel like he was a start at that time. 759 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 1: But now all of a sudden, boom, things come on. 760 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: He's in the right system, he's with the right offense, 761 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: right scheme, and it makes it work. And this year 762 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl usually only takes six quarterbacks. This they 763 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: at eight, and the Strine Game still had some quality 764 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: quarterback prospects with Brandon Dowdy and Jake Rudoc Michigan. Yeah. Yeah, 765 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: so this quarterback claws just really really deep in terms 766 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: of players that you might want to develop them. There 767 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: might be something there. Yeah. That's just the most interesting 768 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 1: thing to me about the quarterback position is because it's 769 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: so temperamental, Like you're saying, you know, are you with 770 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: the right offense, are you with the right coaches? Are 771 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: these people really helping you get play? Yeah? Are you 772 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: training right so that when you get do go to 773 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: the combine, if you get invited, that you're able to 774 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 1: show your best. So it's interesting, all right, if Jalen 775 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: Smith was healthy, who would be ranked hire? Who are 776 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: your pro comparisons to him? Josh wants to know. Josh 777 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: wants to know your pro comparisons to Jalen Smith. He's 778 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: tough because he's such a freak athlete. Yeah, he's twitchy. Hey, 779 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: he moves around with these he looks like a safety 780 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: running around out there. Um, you know, I heard the 781 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner comparisons a little bit. I don't mind that one. Um, 782 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: But if even if he was healthy, Jack still top linebacker, right, Yeah, 783 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: I had tagged or touching, you know, in my mind 784 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: even though I projected Jack to play. Is that I 785 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: like what I'm hearing. I like what I'm seeing him. 786 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 1: We're seeing some like some little little bits of video 787 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: coming out about Jack moving around, going through the bag. 788 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: DRIs to be a full participant at the combine. So 789 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: if that's the case, by all means, let's go and 790 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: and and to me that tape. You watch either tape, 791 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: he would be happy with either one of those players 792 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: if they were on your team. Well, Vernon Hargraves be 793 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: an option for the Cowboys at first at the fourth 794 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: at the fourth pick. If not, if you watch him 795 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: grittish teeth there. Okay, Well the second part of the question, 796 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: if not, what are his downside? So you can answer 797 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: that size? Yeah, I think he doesn't always play big. 798 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: And I don't think that for a corner that's going 799 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: to measure under five eleven ye, Um, that that really 800 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: hurts them. And I think that shows at times on tape. Now, 801 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: he's a really competitive kid. He's a coach's son. I 802 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: love the instincts, the aggressiveness, There's a lot of things 803 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: you love about him. He's a first round player. But 804 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: to take him at four, he better be a guy 805 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: that I'm he's stepping in from day one and he's 806 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: gonna be a big impact for him. Me and I 807 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: don't think that he consistently plays up to the competition 808 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: now he's facing some of these bigger wide receivers. Sometimes 809 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: he just he just doesn't have an answer for would 810 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: you rather? Would you rather take say Ramsey as a 811 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 1: safety prospect at four and then try there? There's enough 812 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,439 Speaker 1: corners in this draft in my opinion, Apple kid, There's 813 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: some kids. Yeah, there's enough guy Apple and Clemson's Alexander. 814 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: Would you rate them? For Give me some guys with 815 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: some length, give me some guys that and that's what again, 816 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: when when you talk about when when you talk about 817 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: Alexander and you talk about the Florida kid, you're talking 818 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: about smaller guys, you know, And even though the smaller 819 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 1: guys side Jones the other day played well, I thought, 820 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, there's some shorter guys, but man, this league 821 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: is about getting in there and playing with you know, 822 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: knocking balls away, being rangey, being tall, being able to 823 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: physically handle things on the end. That doesn't mean he 824 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: can't play. Of course, there's a spot for him in 825 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: the NFL, but we're talking about taking a corner at 826 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: number four. Overall, I just think there'll be better players there, 827 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: all right. So g Money must have not seen your 828 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: mock draft because he said love the show. I'm a 829 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: Browns fan, and I know Dana is from Northeastern Ohio. 830 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 1: Do you think Wentz maybe Brown's pick at number two? 831 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: And you did say about this, I have to have 832 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: Wentz at number two to the Browns. I mean, he's 833 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: in the discussion. The Browns obviously need to find that quarterback, 834 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: and in this draft there's a few enticing options with 835 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, maybe Paxson Lynch. And to me, 836 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: Wentz represents the anti man Zell for Cleveland. I mean, 837 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: there's just so many things about Wentz that is the 838 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: opposite of Johnny Football. So you know, Wentz is not 839 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: a perfect prospect. Obviously, he has some question marks, especially 840 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: coming from the FCS level. But if the Browns are 841 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: sold on him as a guy that can lead them 842 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: to the playoffs down the road you have to take. 843 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: Let's not talk Johnny, but is once a comparison to 844 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: Brandon Whedon, not just the He's a much better athlete 845 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: than Brandon Weedon. I think that was a big That's 846 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: the big downfall for Whedon is he just can't move 847 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: in the pocket and there's a lot of other things. 848 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: But Wentz is going to be able to do that, right. 849 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is a souped up Alex Smith. He's bigger 850 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: like that, a stronger arm. But you see the same intelligence, 851 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: the same athleticism, the way they move in the pocket, 852 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: outside the pocket, extending plays. So I think Carson Wentz 853 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: and look at Alex Smith what he's being able to do. 854 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: I think Carson Wentz is that type of player. Let 855 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: me carry Gimney's questionable further for a Browns fan. Then 856 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 1: would you see them potentially going best player and then 857 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: waiting to the top of the second round to grab 858 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: much like what San Diego did with La Danian, Tom 859 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: would send and then Drew Brees. Would you see with 860 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: with the with kind of the bad luck that you 861 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: want to say that they've had with quarterbacks in the 862 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: first round, could we see a flip where they say, 863 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: let's just take the best player. They maybe they did 864 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: that with the Quarner. They probably thought the quarner of 865 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: the drafts from Oklaouma stay over. Gilbert's been up, been 866 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: a bust for them, right, But when we have to 867 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: remember there's a brand new regime there in Cleveland and 868 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: Sashi Brown and that that brain trust. They're a big 869 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: believer in the numbers. They're a big believer in I mean, 870 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: they're very confident group. So if they think there's a 871 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: quarterback that can lead into the playoffs, that's the pick. 872 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: They're not gonna wait. And so they don't care about 873 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,439 Speaker 1: what anyone else thinks. They trust what they what their 874 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: scouts say, and what they think. So I think a 875 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: quarterback at number two, it's becoming more and more clear 876 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: that I think that's the direction they go. Yeah, remember this, 877 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: Hugh as a hut so he'll know all about that. 878 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: And you know Hugh wants to get a quarterback run 879 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: is off. Absolutely. Okay, that's it. We've got We've got 880 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: them all. We've got them all. Okay, we're gonna take 881 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: a break here from the SWBC Mortgage Studios Against the 882 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: Draft Show, when we come back, we're gonna get to 883 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna take some phone calls and then get into 884 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,760 Speaker 1: Dane Brugler's mock draft and talks more about these players 885 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: we'll see in just a minute. Introducing AT and T 886 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: rollover data, you're unused, planned data automatically rolls over for 887 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: one month. 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This is the 923 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Showboys, I'm the clock. We're 924 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: back in the SBbc Morgat studios Brian broad Us, Stain 925 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 1: Burgle Or CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Kayler Stern, 926 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and KK Garrison Executive Producer. Thanks 927 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: again for joining us today. We will continue on this 928 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: route for the next few weeks. As Dame pointed out earlier, 929 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: we've got the Combine coming up at the end of February, 930 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: So the next couple of weeks we'll have the draft 931 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: shows from here at our studios at Valley Ranch, and 932 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: then we will all set sale for Indianapolis, and then, 933 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: much like we did for the Senior Bowl, we'll have 934 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: draft shows every day that we're in Indianapolis and hopefully 935 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of good content for you with interviews 936 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: and stories and rumors, whatever you want to know, we'll 937 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,720 Speaker 1: figure it all out. So with that all being said, 938 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna open up phones I'm gonna take a call 939 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: here and then I want to get into your mock draft. 940 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,919 Speaker 1: So I got something holding Kent when we got today, 941 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: Warren in Ohio, you're up, go ahead, you doing today? Good? 942 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 1: All right? Uh? I was. I was thinking that, Dallas, 943 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: we need to go ahead and we need to eat 944 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: a draft a running back or another tight end or 945 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: somebody in the middle of the defensive line, because I 946 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: think we pretty sat at a quarterback. We got Romo 947 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,280 Speaker 1: already under contract for years, and if we do draft 948 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: another quarterback, maybe do it next year, not this year. Okay, thanks, 949 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: thank you Rauch for the call. And I don't think 950 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: he I mean there. I think there's a large portion 951 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: of Cowboys fans who agrees with that. Yeah, I mean 952 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: you're you're picking a number four. You have a chance 953 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: to pick a quarterback with a lot of potential, but 954 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: that's all it is right now, with potential, a young 955 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: kid who you hope could be something one day, but 956 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 1: it's far from our sure thing. And you have a 957 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: window right now with Romo to win. So I and 958 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 1: I tend to agree. I as much as I would 959 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: love to take one of these quarterbacks at four, I 960 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: have a window right now to win and drafting a 961 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: Miles Jack or a player like that can help my 962 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 1: defense from day one and help me win in two 963 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: N sixteen, would you draft huntsels forward? Not? I love Tonsil, 964 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: he's the best player in this draft, but for this team, 965 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: right I would not draft them for this team because 966 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 1: at some point you have to pay all these guys, 967 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: and my offensive line's already really really good. I need 968 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: help elsewhere. Yeah, I am going to start saying what 969 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: Brian is saying about minimizing the risk. It is and 970 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: and it's balancing that, but you also have to be fearless. 971 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: You know, you know you do, and it's a balance 972 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: to how you do that. No, no, no, that will 973 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: make the draft fascinating and impossible. It's same, But minimize 974 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 1: a risk. Tation is willing to take a risk. Yeah, 975 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: he'll take a risk, there's no doub about. But see, 976 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: that's the thing about is I'm saying that just for 977 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 1: that that that fourth pack, I think whoever, they could 978 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: put five names on the board and one of those 979 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: names is going to show up and they go ahead 980 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: and pick him and that and that that's fine, but 981 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 1: then you've got to think about Okay, minimize the risk 982 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: of the names. Think about, Okay, would I really take 983 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: this guy? Would I really take this guy? That's what 984 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really important for the board. 985 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: I think they can they can gamble and do some 986 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: things in the second, third, fourth round. I'm okay with that. 987 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: At the top of that, and he mentioned interior defensive line. 988 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: This this is gonna get a lot of help. There's 989 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: going to be a double digit defensive tackles draft in 990 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,879 Speaker 1: the top fifties. So when you're sitting there at thirty four, 991 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: that's prime location, prime real estate for one of these 992 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: defensive tackles to fall to you right, whether that's a 993 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 1: Vernon Butler and Austin Johnson. I think Andrew Billings could 994 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: be there. I don't think he's a lock first round pick. 995 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: I think it's possible he could be there. So I'm 996 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 1: sitting at thirty four and i'm's your best tackle. I'm 997 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: looking one technique Billings, No, I like drawn read better 998 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: at Alabama. I have him above, and I also Sheldon Rankins. 999 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: He moved up. He's my number two defensive tackle overall. 1000 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: Probably more of a three technique though, but he can 1001 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 1: do everything. I mean three. Four teams will love him 1002 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,879 Speaker 1: four three teams to love him. He can two gas 1003 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: doesn't do anything. Miss he's my think, what number three 1004 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: defensive tackle? It's tough. He's one of the top ten 1005 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: talents in this class, just not one of the top 1006 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: ten football players. And so at one point do you 1007 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: take a chance on him? I think he could be 1008 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 1: really good and all pro in this league. I'm just 1009 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: not convinced he loves football enough to work at it 1010 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 1: and reach its potential. Dig into his mock draft, what 1011 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 1: do you think? What do you think Connor Cook? First rounder? 1012 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: And remember with these mock drafts, it's never was I 1013 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: think should happen. It's always what I think team, and 1014 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,919 Speaker 1: it's all about scenarios. Look, you know we're three months 1015 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: to the draft. I'm not going to look back at 1016 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: this draft and see, oh see, I told you this 1017 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 1: is more about scenarios, what could happen, how it could 1018 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: play out. And with the Texans sitting there at twenty two, yeah, 1019 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: if the three quarterbacks off the board, yeah, you know 1020 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,240 Speaker 1: the top three Golf Wentz and Lynch and the Texans 1021 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: are sitting there at twenty two, Hackenburg and Cook are 1022 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 1: right there. Do they pull the trigger on one of 1023 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,919 Speaker 1: those two, do they try and wait till the second round. 1024 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's entering year three in Houston. He needs to 1025 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 1: make a splash with one of these quarterbacks. I don't 1026 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: know Tom Savage. I don't think he's the future there. 1027 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: So it just it would not shock me at all 1028 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: if Connor Cook or Christian Hackenburg go at that twenty s. 1029 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,120 Speaker 1: When I read it, it made complete sense and I thought, well, 1030 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: of course, this is why you would put him there. 1031 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: But my feelings about Connor Cook and I said this 1032 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: even at the beginning of the year when he was 1033 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: kind of a heisman buzz and I just think he 1034 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: might be your bust. And I hate to say that, 1035 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: and it maybe egg on my face a year from 1036 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: now because he could go and light it up. But 1037 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is is that I think 1038 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: he benefited from his weapons around him at Michigan State. 1039 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,399 Speaker 1: He benefited from having a solid defense, strong run game, 1040 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: strong run game, and the fact that he's having all 1041 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: these questions about his intangibles. Is he a leader? Is 1042 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: he someone who can be a backup? And take that mentally, 1043 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 1: we'll see he's working with George Whitfield, who I you know, 1044 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,439 Speaker 1: I've always admired a lot of respect, appreciated his work 1045 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: with former quarterbacks. One plane in the Super Bowl, this 1046 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: Sunday Cam, so who knows what George will say. George 1047 00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 1: is very good at getting these guys to combat what 1048 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: people are thinking against them. Right. He did that with Johnny, 1049 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, he made it. He did everything in Johnny's 1050 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 1: pro day that people were thinking is against him. Right. 1051 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: He's probably gonna do that with other guy, another guy 1052 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 1: he's working with though, And I know, well, yes, Cardinal 1053 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 1: Jones about him. Yeah, he's he's one of Dave Helmet's 1054 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: favorite and figured he weared the plaid and wear the 1055 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: plaid of Ohio. Stay for sure on that one. Gonna 1056 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: go through, just go through real quick. Here tounsil to 1057 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 1: the Titans, wins to the Browns, Chargers take Bosa, puts 1058 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 1: the Cowboys on the clock. Miles Jack, talk about you happy? 1059 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: I am very happy. Day. He could play any of 1060 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: the linebacker spots. Like I said, he helps you from 1061 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: day one. And it's hard to come up with like 1062 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: a true apples apples comparison for him. But and this 1063 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: is high praise, I know, But if you combine some 1064 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 1: of the strengths from Luke Keekley and some of the 1065 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: strengths from his teammate Thomas Davis, and you combined him. Yeah, 1066 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: you have something similar to what Miles Jack could be. 1067 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's that type of athlete. His contact balance 1068 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: and outstanding and instincts. He's just a rare athlete, a 1069 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: rare specimen for the position. So there's a lot of 1070 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 1: things you can do with him. How hard was it 1071 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: not to take Ramsey or Golf at that point? It was? 1072 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: But you know, if I'm sticking and looking at the board, 1073 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,720 Speaker 1: Jack is number two for me, behind Tunsel and Ramsey's 1074 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: number three. I think Jalen Ramsey would be an outstanding pick. 1075 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 1: Can help you at corner, can help you at safety. 1076 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 1: He's just a true playmaker. So I think Ramsey he's 1077 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 1: coming off the board with the next pick for the Jaguars. 1078 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,879 Speaker 1: He's not gonna last very long. New general manager Chris 1079 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: Greer at Miami you like him taking Noah Spence at eight. Yeah, 1080 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: here's your top ten guy. Yeah, and someone's gonna take 1081 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: a chance on him, and I think someone's going to 1082 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 1: be very happy they took a chance on him. Um, 1083 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: you know I mentioned you know, Vernon's about to hit 1084 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: free agency. There, Cameron Wakes not getting any younger, So 1085 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,800 Speaker 1: I think Noah Spence could step in. I think, ideally 1086 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,839 Speaker 1: I'd love to see Noah Spence in a three four 1087 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 1: defense where he can you know, really you know, work 1088 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 1: with space and really benefit from that. But at the 1089 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 1: same time, he's a pass rusher and all teams need that. 1090 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: Soam me at eight it looks like a possible fit. 1091 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: When you talked about you had the Saints taken Treadwell 1092 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: at twelve there, Yeah, they're new Marquis Colston. Yeah, you know, 1093 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 1: I think he could be that new Marky's Colston for him, 1094 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: that big, size, good athlete. The ball skills are all 1095 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 1: standing in the catching radius and playing opposite Brandon Cooks. 1096 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna give Drew Brees, you know, one 1097 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: last ride in New Orleans, you know, one last chance 1098 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: to go and see if they can make the playoffs 1099 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 1: and make a Super Bowl. So surrounding Breeze with more 1100 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: talents never a bad thing. Okay, we've taken Treadwill at four. 1101 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 1: Maybe No, I'm not okay, I don't think that's our 1102 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: biggest need. I say that because you know we have 1103 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 1: Does and we have Terrence. Let's develop them. Let's give 1104 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 1: him a quarterback. Yeah. I don't know if we do 1105 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 1: pick the quarterback at for but I'd feel more comfortable 1106 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,280 Speaker 1: at taking a quarterback and four than a wide receiver, 1107 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 1: which is your position that you would be happy with 1108 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: other than the quarterback. Yeah, I think I would stick 1109 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: with the linebackers. Yeah, you know doing that because we 1110 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: love Sean Lee. He's great, he had a Pro Bowl year, right, 1111 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: but we need that playmaker. Yeah, you know someone who's 1112 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: gonna line He gave you a play That's why I 1113 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: was like, kle huh, Yeah, you're playing the best cover 1114 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: linebacker we've seen come out of the draft since since Keikley. 1115 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, and once and you look at the number 1116 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: four pick. Traditionally, that's been a sweet spot for wide receivers, 1117 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: that first wide receiver to come off the board. Last 1118 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: year the fourth pick Mark Cooper, the year before that, 1119 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 1: the fourth pick Sammy Watkins. A couple of years before 1120 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 1: that at the fourth pick aj Green. So you know, 1121 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 1: that fourth pick traditionally been a little bit of a 1122 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 1: sweet spot for that first wide reip and it is 1123 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: your playmaker you know it is your guy. I mean 1124 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. It's a CDC up there with Derek Carr. 1125 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: That's their guy. But the thing that I have a 1126 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: problem with is you got eighty eight over here, and 1127 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: I know you got to line them up like you're 1128 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, Treadwill with Brandon Cooks. I get that, 1129 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 1: but I don't feel comfortable if you talk about this 1130 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: all the time. If you're gonna get at this high 1131 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: of a pick, let's not be there again. Let's not 1132 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: be there again. We've had playmakers this past year and 1133 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 1: we saw why couldn't we get it done? That's fair. 1134 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 1: You raised an eyebrow. I did raise an eyebrow. Darren 1135 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: Lee at eighteen to the Colts. You're not the biggest 1136 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: Darren Lee fan, right, Yeah, you have some reservations. No, 1137 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,399 Speaker 1: I need to go back and study Darren Lee some more. 1138 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 1: I's probably having a bad day. Well he's a former 1139 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,359 Speaker 1: quarterback player back in high school. Well he's an out 1140 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: standing athlete. Yeah, I think the natural instincts are there. 1141 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: A little leaner than you want, needs to clean up 1142 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: a few things with his tackling technique. But I think 1143 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: the arrow was just pointing North on this player, I 1144 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 1: think he's gonna get better. Got him. I really like 1145 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 1: Darren Ly. I would have loved to see him back 1146 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: in Columbus for another year. I think he could have 1147 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: really helped himself. But even so, he's a top twenty 1148 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: pick right now. Braxton Millard to the Bengals at twenty four. Yeah, 1149 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 1: then the Bengals, they've got a few wis. They like 1150 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 1: Ohio state kids they name the Brown family has an 1151 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,879 Speaker 1: Ohio state tie they also like. And where Braxton grew 1152 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 1: up is about an hour side of Cincinnati, and so, uh, 1153 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 1: Cincinnati is also liked versa little wide receivers, you know, 1154 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 1: they and before even with Hugh Jackson and without him, 1155 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: they run. They like to run a lot of exotic 1156 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 1: things on offense, and so the chance to add a 1157 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: Braxon Miller and his versatility to that offense. Uh. And 1158 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 1: on the other thing the Bengals have shown is they 1159 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: are not necessarily looking for that guy that can help 1160 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 1: right away in round one. They've been thinking long term. 1161 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,320 Speaker 1: You know, last year they took the tackle from A 1162 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: and M a way, he who you know, wasn't gonna 1163 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 1: be able to play most of his rookie year because 1164 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: of injury, and they were okay with that exactly. They 1165 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: think long term, they think who can help us down 1166 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 1: the road. So I think BXON like your choice at 1167 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 1: twenty six with the Seahawks Jack Conklin. They need the 1168 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: need offensive line help now that Jack Colin former walk on. Yeah. 1169 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,839 Speaker 1: You watch you watch when he played. I mean when 1170 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: when things are breaking down for you know that Alabama 1171 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,320 Speaker 1: Michigan State game. It ain't Jack Conklin breaking down. And 1172 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,359 Speaker 1: you watch him against Oregon going up against Buckner, Yeah, 1173 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean you see that course strength. You know, a 1174 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 1: strong hands, wide bass. Some guys will be able to 1175 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,319 Speaker 1: beat him with speed, but no one's going through him, 1176 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:04,959 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Just to go down here a little 1177 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,359 Speaker 1: further to Jaren Reid twenty seven of the Packers, that'd 1178 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: be a great pick. Sheldon Rankins Kansas City. Oh, that's 1179 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 1: really good. That's all they need is another defensive lineman 1180 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: there Arizona with the with Vernon Butler defensive tackle Louisiana 1181 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: Tech helped himself a little bit this week. Then Yeah, 1182 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will be surprised as 1183 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 1: he Butler maybe in that first round discussion, but he 1184 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 1: belongs I think he's uh. He proved it last week 1185 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: in Mobile and you see the lower body quickness, the 1186 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: upper body power, and he uses it in unison to 1187 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: beat up on Lineman and Kevin Dodd. It will be 1188 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,280 Speaker 1: the thirty first pick. He's the defense fin from Clemson, 1189 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 1: and Dane thinks the Carolina Panthers will have that pick. 1190 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,719 Speaker 1: So that just tells you right there. Next year when 1191 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,439 Speaker 1: you know Brian's going through these games, and he told 1192 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 1: us this year, well, all of Carolina Panthers, you know, 1193 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 1: defensive lineas first and second round picks. So they're just 1194 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 1: gonna keep adding. That's right, that's right. Yeah, okay, kid, 1195 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 1: we did a great job day. That is I like 1196 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 1: your mind trap that the eighteen though I have a 1197 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: little question about that pick. All right, kay, Garrison, We're 1198 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,239 Speaker 1: gonna try and finish up this show the next We've 1199 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,359 Speaker 1: got three minutes before we have to get out of here, can't. 1200 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn it over to you and we're gonna 1201 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 1: fire through these calls, so everybody be ready to go, 1202 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 1: and we're all doing good again, So get your question 1203 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: and let's go. All right, Sean and Nova Scotia, you're up. Sean, 1204 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 1: all right, guys, thanks very much for taking my call. 1205 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: Great job at the Senior Bowl. Very insightful and enjoyed 1206 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 1: the sideline analysis. Thank you very much. So here's the 1207 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 1: question we go with, when does quantity outweigh quality. For example, 1208 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay has a ninth pick, they have thirteen hundred 1209 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 1: and fifty points. They got to move up to number four. 1210 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 1: Dallas has eighteen hundreds, so they'd have to basically give 1211 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 1: up their second which means you have four picks in 1212 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 1: the top forty okay, and then who in the war 1213 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 1: room makes that call? So there's my question, guys, Thank you, 1214 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 1: great question. Okay, we're gonna make a trade here real quick, 1215 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 1: and then we're trying to we're gonna go down to Tampa. 1216 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 1: Where are they at nine? Is what they said. Okay, 1217 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: that's that's a spot. I mean that's going five and 1218 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: he's right, you know, go get there two. So you 1219 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 1: know that would be the call. If you're thinking about though, 1220 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 1: where their board sits a little bit in that second round? 1221 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 1: Could they say if you have could they get the 1222 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,920 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, could they get a wide receiver, could they 1223 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: get a corner. That's where you kind of have to 1224 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 1: look at your board and say, okay, we're in the 1225 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: second round. Do we tend to have maybe maybe a 1226 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: little bit of a little depth at a position that 1227 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: we can go look at, or who do we where 1228 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: they're not a debt but we might need that position. 1229 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 1: So again, that's Jerry's call, at Steven's call. They're gonna 1230 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 1: have to convince will McClay, Todd Williams. They're all going 1231 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 1: to talk about that if the trade works. But yeah, 1232 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 1: if you get multiple picks, and that's great. I think 1233 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: the biggest question though, is who you can have it 1234 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: for and then who's gonna be there at nine? Exactly 1235 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 1: do you feel comfortable losing a Miles Jack at Jalen Ramsey? Right? 1236 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: And you know who do you really like at number nine? 1237 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,919 Speaker 1: Is that? Don't trade away from a great player? That's 1238 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: the whole idea here. Yeah, you gotta you gotta make 1239 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: a determination which way that board's going, because again, if 1240 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz goes to Cleveland at two, that's gonna set 1241 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 1: this draft in a whole other direction for the Cowboys 1242 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: in my opinion. Yeah, so we'll see. Well, in trading 1243 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: back is almost always the right option. Yeah, you look 1244 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 1: at the Browns, a couple of years ago. And I know, 1245 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, Cowboys aren't the Browns. Not a lot of 1246 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 1: teams aren't. But you know they had the fourth pick, 1247 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins right there for him. Yeah, they traded back 1248 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 1: and they got Justin Gilbert. Yeah, so it's not always 1249 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,920 Speaker 1: the best thing that the best, But then you could 1250 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 1: have the number nine pick and you could pick someone 1251 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 1: like Tyren Smith or is he Killie Hill? That work? 1252 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: Ken't who do you got? You got somebody else going 1253 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 1: on phones ringing right now? Give me a twenty seconds, okay, 1254 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: but yeah, the whole trade, the whole trade back, sneer. 1255 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm always from me, tell me who I'm trading away from. 1256 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 1: If I look at the board, if I'm gonna lose this, this, this, yeah, 1257 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 1: that's a situation where okay, but you gotta think, okay, 1258 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: if I could if it sometimes you'll have a deal 1259 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 1: where you go, Man, I wish I had an extra 1260 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: second round pick. Sure, and and yeah that's and that 1261 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 1: that'll work, that work, okay, Ken? Who do you get 1262 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 1: you in Germany? Reggie? Go ahead, Hi, I'm here now 1263 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 1: are you from trade will again? Okay? I know, um 1264 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 1: um we just heard that. Um we're I'm liking him 1265 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 1: too much because we we think we got Um Terrence 1266 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Williams here, Terrence who was here last year. Sure Terence 1267 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 1: proved that he couldn't carry a ball. So we need 1268 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 1: a more consistent receiver next to DEAs. We need to 1269 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 1: open deads up. We've been trying to get DEAs opened 1270 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Um in different positions the whole last year when he 1271 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 1: was healthy, couldn't do it. We need somebody to off 1272 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: set him. You know, we need a one receiver. That's 1273 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 1: what I'm going to say about that. Thank you, Reggie. 1274 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I didn't say I didn't like Oh 1275 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:29,440 Speaker 1: you did. No, I like him a ton and he 1276 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 1: is a boss, and I'd love to see how he's 1277 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: bounced back from a very scary injury. Yeah, that is huge, 1278 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 1: especially if a player is going to go and be 1279 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 1: successful in the league. What I said was is that 1280 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: I don't think that's our biggest need at four. Yeah, 1281 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 1: we dropped back in trade. You're right, he could be 1282 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 1: a nine pick for us. No, and I agree it's 1283 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 1: not the biggest need. But at the same time, I 1284 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 1: think when you're picking four, it's more about finding the show. Well, 1285 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 1: you're at four, you want someone that can impact your 1286 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: roster and help your team move forward, and I think 1287 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Treadwill can maybe to me, he needs to be in 1288 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,919 Speaker 1: a discussion because he can step in at the number 1289 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 1: two and I know he's a lot like Dez. That's okay, 1290 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 1: give me two Deserts out there, and defensive quarterbacks. You've 1291 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 1: got two desas and you've got Kellen Moore throwing him 1292 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 1: a ball. You got that Castle throwing him a ball. Well, 1293 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 1: and that's why I'm addressing the back of quarterback and 1294 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 1: free adens. Yeah, I mean, I know, yeah, that needs 1295 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 1: to be said. No Manzell RG three, Well, no RG three. 1296 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 1: Maybe you know you look at that as a possibility, 1297 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 1: But I want the I'm not gonna draft. I don't 1298 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 1: want to draft a rookie quarterback there. I'd rather go 1299 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: and get into guy that's going to impact my team 1300 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 1: for sure. Until on the sixteen. Now, if this wasn't 1301 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 1: February fifth, and this was April fifth, and we'd already 1302 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 1: been through free agency and we did get someone that 1303 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 1: I feel comfortable could pass to two Deserts, I might 1304 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 1: change my mind, Reggie, So don't give up on me yet. 1305 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,440 Speaker 1: Don't give up, Okay, last call the day and we'll 1306 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,360 Speaker 1: end the draft show. Who do you got? Chris and Maryland? 1307 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 1: Go ahead? How you guys doing good? Right? Um? My 1308 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 1: question is I heard you talking about the quarterbacks and 1309 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: say we go with the linebacker in the first round, 1310 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 1: in the second or third round or so, what quarterback 1311 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 1: would you actually look at? Taking um and that that's 1312 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 1: what I have. Have a good day, guys, I'll take 1313 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 1: it all the air, all right? Thanks? Chris. Get a 1314 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 1: second round quarterback Dane Connor Cook. I mean, I you know, 1315 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: I think he can start in this league. My rear 1316 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 1: would be real tight if we took Connor Cook. I 1317 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: just he can start in the NFL. I just don't 1318 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 1: think he has a high ceiling. I don't think that 1319 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 1: he I mean, had he's a lackerberg do anything for you? No, 1320 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean maybe in the maybe in a late third round. 1321 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 1: I would take it. What would he have done something 1322 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 1: for you if he wasn't getting sacked as many times? 1323 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 1: But a lot of those are his own doing, though, 1324 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:43,000 Speaker 1: and that's what I give. Yes, the offensive play calling 1325 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 1: did not do him any favors once he lost Alan 1326 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 1: Robinson after season. Yeah, you know, no one helped him 1327 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 1: out the offensive line did not do him any favors. 1328 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 1: But at the same time, his tape shouldn't have been 1329 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 1: that bad, and a lot of it was self inflicted. 1330 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of bad habits, holding the ball 1331 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 1: too long, not recognizing things. I just I'm worried that 1332 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,920 Speaker 1: he's damaged goods already. I mean, right in twenty thirteen, 1333 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,920 Speaker 1: we saw what he could do. With Bill O'Brien. The 1334 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 1: last two years it was it was a mess, and 1335 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 1: a lot of that was because of him in his 1336 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 1: stunted development. Can a team NFL team get him back 1337 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 1: on track. I'm just not a true believer or a coach. 1338 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 1: You're talking about Bill O'Brien. He's worked with some of 1339 01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks Tom Brady. Sure, yeah, and I'm not 1340 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 1: saying you can't. I would take a chance on him, 1341 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 1: probably your late third, early fourth, but I don't think 1342 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna be there for me. He'll be drafted higher 1343 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 1: than I would. So Connor Cook's your only second round 1344 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 1: quarterback then, yeah, I have a late second round right on. Okay, 1345 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 1: that's that's fair. Okay, Well listen, that's all the time 1346 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 1: we have for the day. Thanks, Thanks for hanging out 1347 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 1: with us today. It's very fun. You guys are great. 1348 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,040 Speaker 1: We will bring you back. Yeah, let's probably next week 1349 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 1: because I'm tired of Dave. Well, you know, I love 1350 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:49,919 Speaker 1: Dave and I hope that he makes it through Marty 1351 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 1: grob but if he decides to New Orleans, yeah, you're covered. Great, 1352 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 1: Okay for Dame Burglar, Taylor Stern, Executive producer, Ken Garrison, 1353 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Brouss. Thank you so much for joining us 1354 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,880 Speaker 1: on the Draft Show today. We always appreciate you out 1355 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 1: there being a part of our show with the tweets, 1356 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 1: the phone calls, anything that we can. He make sure 1357 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 1: you're falling on at the Draft Show. Get those questions in. 1358 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,680 Speaker 1: We'll do our best answer and make sure you're falling 1359 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 1: at DP Burglar and he will answer your questions as well. 1360 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 1: So you guys have a great week. We'll see you 1361 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 1: next Friday. From the SFBC Mortgage Studios