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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. It's the bye week, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: and it's a good time, even though it's a late bye.

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Speaker 1: You know, I like the bye rate in the middle

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Speaker 1: because then you really have the you can break down

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Speaker 1: the first half of the season.

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Speaker 2: You can say this is the first half, second half, you know,

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Speaker 2: that whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Exactly with the late bye. It's the state of the

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Speaker 1: Ravens at the late by. Yeah, Okay, we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about where the Ravens sit now, what they need

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Speaker 1: to improve on, what they're doing really well, the path,

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Speaker 1: the road ahead, all that stuff, Garrett. So big picture,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are sitting at ninety three. They have the

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Speaker 1: best record in the AFC as it stands right now.

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Speaker 1: You gotta like where the Ravens are sitting. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think if you knew, if you get proposed a

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Speaker 3: scenario at the bye week, the Ravens are going to

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Speaker 3: be nine to three and the top seed in the AFC,

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Speaker 3: would you sign up for that?

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Speaker 1: I absolute would.

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Speaker 2: I think most Ravens fans would say, yes, sign me up.

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Speaker 2: I think also, when you.

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Speaker 1: What really bothers you is that it could have been

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Speaker 1: better than ninety three, right, it's like ninety three, but

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Speaker 1: go you let three just that you should have had.

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Speaker 2: There's two things to your favorite. There's two things that

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Speaker 2: really bother you. One is what you just mentioned, you.

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Speaker 3: Really feel like, okay, conservative, you should be eleven, and

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Speaker 3: one you know you really feel that way. And then

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Speaker 3: the other part that bothers you is that the AFC

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Speaker 3: is just so nay good, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you're sitting at home this weekend and the potential exists

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Speaker 3: for these other these other teams who are eight and

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Speaker 3: three to also join you at nine to three, and

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Speaker 3: then all of a sudden you're no longer the top

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Speaker 3: seed in the AFC. And you also know the road

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Speaker 3: ahead is very difficult, which we're going to talk about.

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Speaker 2: In a minute.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's those two things. I feel really

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Speaker 3: good about where the Ravens are. I feel like there's

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Speaker 3: a slight element of missed opportunity here, but I also

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Speaker 3: think that and then I also think that the AFC

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Speaker 3: is just so good that if the Ravens are going

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Speaker 3: to maintain this spot as the top seed, I don't

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Speaker 3: really think they can lose another game in the rest

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Speaker 3: of the season. I think they probably have to run

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Speaker 3: the table.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So how good are the Ravens is

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Speaker 1: kind of the question. And I think that this team

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Speaker 1: has everything it needs to win the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Okay, they can win games in

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Speaker 1: different ways, more than they could even in twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: when they went fourteen and two. Right, this team has

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Speaker 1: just did a wider arsenal of weapons and I think

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Speaker 1: that's what makes them I'll say it right now. I'll

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Speaker 1: say it right now here. I ain't scared. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you the big point. You're scared. You're a scared guy.

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Speaker 1: But I'll give you a big point. This team is

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Speaker 1: better than the twenty nineteen Ravens, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: why they are more suited not to get knocked off early,

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Speaker 1: kind of caught by surprise like the twenty nineteen Ravens

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Speaker 1: did in the first round of the playoffs. Well not

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Speaker 1: the first round technically.

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Speaker 3: But right right, I think that there could be true

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Speaker 3: to I think it's more complete team. I think that

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Speaker 3: this defense is better than that year's defense. I think

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Speaker 3: that this offense is has the ability to do more.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm kind of saying. The offense has different

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that team, it's like you're a victim of

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Speaker 3: your own success because that team just blew everybody out

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Speaker 3: all season long that they didn't really have to come

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Speaker 3: from behind much.

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Speaker 2: They didn't have to play that many close games.

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Speaker 3: And so then all of a sudden, you find yourself

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Speaker 3: in a hole and you're a little bit shell shocked

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Speaker 3: in that first playoff game against the Titans, and it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wha.

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Speaker 2: This is how this goes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: This isn't the script, and so it just was.

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Speaker 3: And so but I think that this team is more

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Speaker 1: Now, we haven't really seen that a lot. We haven't

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Speaker 1: seen that this season either, quite frankly now as most

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Speaker 1: games they haven't been just boat racing teams like they

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Speaker 1: were in twenty nineteen where you jumped out to twenty

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Speaker 1: one point leads in the first quarter. But the Ravens

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Speaker 1: have only trailed to the Cardinals. Yeah, they're well, they

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Speaker 1: well other than the games they lost at the very end,

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Speaker 1: but like trailed the game before the final minutes of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been leading.

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Speaker 1: It was only the Cardinals who went down the field

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Speaker 1: and scored on their opening drive. That was it. Uh huh,

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Speaker 1: so it had they haven't had to come effort. But

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Speaker 1: I still think that you've seen the offense has thrived

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Speaker 1: passing the ball, they've thrived running the ball. In twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: it was kind of like the formula works so well

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Speaker 1: that you just kept duplicating it over and over and

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Speaker 1: over and over again, and it kept working. Yet, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: now the Ravens have different formulas in which they can win.

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Speaker 3: The thing about the nineteen team is that it was

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Speaker 3: hard to see them being stopped because they just weren't stopped.

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Speaker 1: The whole year.

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Speaker 3: The juggernaut this offense has been stopped. It has not

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Speaker 3: been as clean as that nineteen season was over the

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Speaker 2: And so that's to me another big difference.

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Speaker 3: Now that's a notch for the nineteen team right there

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Speaker 3: to talk about. You know that they basically just couldn't

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Speaker 2: Like, I just don't see any way that that happens.

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Speaker 3: Well, then it did happen, and so then everybody, all

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Speaker 3: of us included, were just caught off guard.

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Speaker 2: By that, but I think that I think that the

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Speaker 3: Defense is a major factor and just expecting where this

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Speaker 3: team can go. It's one of, if not the best

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Speaker 3: If they can hold teams like they did to the

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Speaker 3: beat the Raps.

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Speaker 1: And what's exciting about the defense is it's had some

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Speaker 1: of his best performances against the best offenses, against the

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Speaker 1: best quarterbacks, against the best wide receivers, the most dangerous ones.

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Speaker 1: The Lions came in here with a top offense, the

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Speaker 1: Ravens shut them down. The Chargers have maybe the most

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Speaker 1: talented offense. You know, we were talking going into that

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Speaker 1: game justin Herbert's maybe the most talented quarterback that they've

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Speaker 1: faced this year. They have Keenan Allen, who is leading

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Speaker 1: the Rams, he had a lot of catches, but like you,

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Speaker 1: not only they can play shut down defense and half

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Speaker 1: where they're just not allowing much many yards period, I

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Speaker 1: you're also making a lot of plays. You're getting turnovers

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Speaker 1: Geno Stone, you know, you're getting interceptions. You lead the

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Speaker 1: league with forty seven sacks. Now you get three force

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Speaker 1: top of just being a really stingy defense in terms

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Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, I think like you take a look at

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Speaker 3: the big picture of this team and this defense. They

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Speaker 3: can get after the quarterback better than anybody else in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. They can come up with the takeaways Genostone

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Speaker 3: you mentioned, and Marcus Williams is getting healthier.

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Speaker 1: They have good.

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Speaker 3: Corners on the outside, Marlin Humphrey's gonna come back, Patrick

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Speaker 3: Queen and rokwand Smith is the best line.

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Speaker 1: You gets a lot of sacks, you get sax trips,

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Speaker 3: So you have this this great defense in place that

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Speaker 3: come away with takeaways, and can pressure the quarterback because

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Speaker 3: they need to do that.

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Speaker 2: Go to recipe right there, check check check.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and then on the offensive side, they still are

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Speaker 3: the best team of the league at running the football.

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Speaker 2: So you the.

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Speaker 3: Old rail SAgs atage, pack your defense in your run game.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna win games in December January. Okay, well you

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Speaker 3: got those two completely.

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Speaker 1: There's are packed. They're in the back.

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Speaker 3: It's what DEAs Sanders say is I got luggage in

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Speaker 3: his Louis right. So he's got the nice because that's

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Speaker 3: the nice luggage. Okay, that's packed, all right, But then

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Speaker 3: you got the.

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Speaker 1: Carry ons with the passing game exactly, let's keep it go.

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Speaker 3: So then then you have you have this passing game too,

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Speaker 3: where Lamar is having his best season ever as a passer.

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Speaker 3: He's completing passes at a higher percentage than he has

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Speaker 3: And so you have this passing game with these new

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Speaker 3: you've got efficiency. So for all of those reasons, I

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Speaker 3: think that the Ravens are absolutely capable of winning a

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Speaker 1: YEP, I absolutely agree. And let's not forget that when

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Speaker 1: you're comparing the Ravens to other teams around the league,

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Speaker 1: and unless say specifically the AFC, right, are they the

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Speaker 1: best team in the AFC? Are they going to come

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Speaker 1: out of AFC champions and go to the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Well you think about the Chiefs, right, Like, no team

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Speaker 1: is flawless. And that's kind of the thing that has

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Speaker 1: cracked me up a little bit about the conversation coming

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Speaker 1: out of the Chargers game is like, well, the offense,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was it was a little stagnant and whatever.

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Speaker 1: It was a little clunky, and sure, I agree with that,

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Speaker 1: but like to expect perfection every single week, it's just

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Speaker 1: an unrealistic expectation. No, no team is perfect every single week.

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Speaker 1: Like it's like, well, you've been up and down on offense, Well,

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Speaker 1: he just scored thirty points in five straight games before this, Like, yes,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have your ups and downs. That's that's just

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Speaker 1: football for everybody. The Chiefs had their wide receivers dropping

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Speaker 1: balls left and right the week before when they took

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Speaker 1: a loss. Yeah, right, And so like they're looking at

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Speaker 1: it and are there are there wide receivers? Is there

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Speaker 1: You know that their offense has been a little eh.

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Speaker 1: You know, their defense has been really good. So like,

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Speaker 1: I just think that, of course the goal, the aim

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Speaker 1: is perfection, so that you want you're not going to

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Speaker 1: get it, yeah, right, You just try to keep getting

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Speaker 1: better and get as close as you can do it.

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Speaker 3: There's two things I want to say. One is specifically

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Speaker 3: to the Chargers game, and like that criticism.

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Speaker 2: To me, I don't really worry.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't the prettiest win at all, but a I

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Speaker 3: don't care about pretty wins, you know, I think that

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Speaker 3: there is an indication of how good you play and

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Speaker 3: that can be predictive of the future. But in this game,

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Speaker 3: specifically going into a bye, you're playing your twelfth game.

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Speaker 1: Completely agree, and yeah, until you do it, you don't know, right.

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Speaker 3: In Lamar Jackson's career, when he's been on the field,

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Speaker 2: And that's the case again this year.

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Speaker 3: Mean, it's a real possibility that you end up on

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Speaker 1: And you could have it might be starting this Sunday.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're just seeing too many hiccups, Like we

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Speaker 1: Too many little things like that happening.

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Speaker 3: on the ground, well now you've got a problem because

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Speaker 3: you're in second and third and short.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I completely agree. I like how Chris Youwitt said

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Speaker 1: you gotta lie to the quarterback. Yeah. Yeah, so get

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Speaker 1: ready for some Pinocchio. I'm gonna stretch here as the

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Speaker 1: Ravens continue to find ways to lie to the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: change the pre snap to posting that picture. I agree,

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Speaker 1: that's going to be important, and stopping the run as always.

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Speaker 3: All right, So we're gonna take a quick break. But

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Speaker 3: when we come back, we're gonna give out some bye

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Speaker 1: No dog though, no dogs. Giving that hard is out.

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Speaker 3: know the players are really excited about the BI Week Awards.

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Speaker 3: They've been waiting with baited breath to hear who's going

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Speaker 3: to win these awards.

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Speaker 2: So let's kick things off. Who is your MVP at

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Speaker 2: this point of the season.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go with the guy that might

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Speaker 1: be the MVP for the whole league for a second time,

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Speaker 1: lama A Jackson. I mean, come on, I mean he's

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Speaker 1: playing I think he's playing at his highest level yet.

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Speaker 1: So we're already talking about a former MVP. He's gotten better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, I mean he runs the show. He

472
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Speaker 1: runs the show. I think the defense has been great

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Speaker 1: and all that, but you take away Lamar Jackson from

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Speaker 1: this equation, it ain't the same team.

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Speaker 3: For sure, it's not. I mean, he I agree, Lamar

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Speaker 3: has been great. You know, I don't know if he's

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Speaker 3: gonna end up winning m VP.

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Speaker 2: Of the league.

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Speaker 3: That's just tough to do. There's you know, some really

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Speaker 3: good competition there in that regard.

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Speaker 1: But think you got I mean, he's beaten to and

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Speaker 1: now Mahomes. Well, I think he's ahead of Mahomes. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's the Hurts, Bryce and Sauston Jalen Hurts in there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Eagles are one loss team, but I

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Speaker 1: I wasn't playing all that well at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as it stands right now, like Lamar is not

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Speaker 3: the favorite, it's still Patrick Mahomes and so and so. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think it's hard to knock a right, you know,

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs have coming off of Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to knock Patrick Mahomes off that perch. I

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Speaker 2: think Lar certainly can do that.

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Speaker 3: And if the Ravens end up being the top seed

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Speaker 3: in the a f C or, I think that that

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Speaker 3: will go a long way.

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Speaker 2: In that regard.

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Speaker 3: Also, the Ravens are gonna be playing a lot of

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Speaker 3: They've already played two straight primetime games here, So when

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Speaker 3: you get in front of that national audience and you

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Speaker 3: have everyone.

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Speaker 1: Talking about you have at least a couple more, you

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Speaker 1: got a couple.

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Speaker 3: More at least, and so you're going to have a

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Speaker 3: chance for everyone to see just how good Lamar is.

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Speaker 3: So I think that that could change, and I hope

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Speaker 3: that it does. What about that on the DF, I'm

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Speaker 3: going with I'm going for defensive side? Are you just

508
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Speaker 3: gonna good chalk?

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Speaker 1: I mean, is easy to answer, that's a slam dunk,

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Speaker 1: but Matt is making a strong case.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a really actually a really hard,

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Speaker 2: really hard question. Answer Yeah.

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Speaker 3: To me, I have I have four to me that

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Speaker 3: at PQ's the other one I would put in that

515
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Speaker 3: conversation like and it's it's honestly really hard for me

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Speaker 3: between p Q and Rokwan because both are excellent and

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Speaker 3: it's hard to separate the two.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm going chalk. I'm going with Roquan. I

519
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Speaker 1: think everything that he offers beyond just what he offers

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Speaker 1: on the field, like as a tone setter, as the

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Speaker 1: guy who does the communicating in the middle of the defense, Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Roquan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can't fault that pick. I think it's

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Speaker 3: honestly to me, it's hard. But separate between those four players.

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Speaker 1: What about Jadavion? I mean, I would say, like, you

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Speaker 1: got like the next tier that's not far behind.

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Speaker 2: Are We're gonna start doing it now. Now here we go.

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Speaker 1: This is how pervable. He goes to see.

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, well, by the way, here the two other

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Speaker 3: the two other awards. Here, I've got Breakout Player and

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Speaker 3: Surprise Player. Okay, okay, okay, okay, you know so you're

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Speaker 3: already trying to do like the tiered the tiered MVP vote.

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Speaker 2: But the first tier, I've got Rogue, First.

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Speaker 1: Pro, second Team all.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go mat A bk Okay. He leads the

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Speaker 3: team in sacks getting that type of pressure. He leads

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Speaker 3: all NFL defensive tackles defensive lineman in terms of sacks.

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Speaker 3: Getting that type of pressure out of an interior defensive

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Speaker 3: lineman is so difficult. I also thought something that was

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Speaker 3: interesting this week in talking with Anthony Weaver, the team's

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Speaker 3: defensive line coach. He was asked basically like the secrets

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Speaker 3: out about Mada Bk, Like, is you get into a

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Speaker 3: ton of double teams? And I thought Anthony Weaver made

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Speaker 3: an interesting point that like, for an interior guy, it's

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Speaker 3: a little harder to like scheme him out of the game,

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Speaker 3: just the way that the offensive line the protection works,

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Speaker 3: and so compared to an edge guy, where you can

548
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Speaker 3: just leave something tight end or a running back end

549
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Speaker 3: to chip him in the entire game. And so even

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Speaker 3: though everyone knows where Mattabka is on every play, it's

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Speaker 3: harder to steal him out right.

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Speaker 1: And that's why, like Aaron Donald right, was so good first,

553
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Speaker 1: has been so good for so long, and you're like,

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Speaker 1: how does this guy keep doing this? Like why don't

555
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Speaker 1: you just double this guy and take them away? And

556
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Speaker 1: it's not really that as easy for an interior rusher.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I think that Matta Bk just he's

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Speaker 3: playing so well, and then that does open up things

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Speaker 3: from there.

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Speaker 1: For me, it's really hard to separate guys in the

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Speaker 1: pass rush because it really has been a group effort,

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Speaker 1: not just a lot of guys have sacks, not just

563
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Speaker 1: statistically but in how they are getting to the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It's been such a group effort with setting picks and

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff that, like it's really hard for

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Speaker 1: me to say, oh, yeah, that pass rusher has been

567
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Speaker 1: the best. Now, I know mattak leads the team in sacks,

568
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Speaker 1: but there's just been such a team effort in that regards.

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Speaker 2: Like I think Jenamunclin has been great this year. He's

570
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Speaker 2: been great. But I think that Matt at BK. I

571
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Speaker 2: don't just put him in the.

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Speaker 3: Pass rusher category, you know, certainly. I mean I think

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Speaker 3: he's he's a three down lineman who can do it all.

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Speaker 3: And so that's why I have him as the v P.

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Speaker 3: I honestly I think that I'm that I think p Q,

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Speaker 3: like I really think that you can make a really

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Speaker 3: strong case for him, Like he makes splash plays. PQ

578
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Speaker 3: makes splash plays all over the field, and so I

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Speaker 3: don't know, there's well you're having the debate that there's

580
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Speaker 3: too many good guys. That's a good problem to have,

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Speaker 3: all right, So now's a.

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Speaker 1: Good problem to have, except when Eric Tkas is making

583
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Speaker 1: decisions this offseason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we can we will cross that bridge when

585
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Speaker 3: you get there. Everyone's here right now, we got everybody

586
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Speaker 3: here enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: So in terms of breakout player, all right, I break

589
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Speaker 3: out a surprise player.

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Speaker 2: Who would your breakout player be?

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Speaker 1: Well, you always love to complain about my selections for

592
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Speaker 1: this because you know, I kind of want to say

593
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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton, but I know you will yell at me

594
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Speaker 1: and they will start whining. Oh really, Okay, so that qualifies.

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Speaker 3: I would, I would, I would put him in the

596
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Speaker 3: he qualifies. I'm surprised you didn't go a little more though.

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Speaker 3: I think I think that Kyle to me, he calls

598
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Speaker 3: because would he qualify that? That one is fringe?

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Speaker 2: To me? Wow, that one is fringe. That one is

600
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Speaker 2: I think that you could say that, but I think

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Speaker 2: that it's Gino.

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Speaker 1: Sure, all right, now I'm gonna save Gino. I'm gonna

603
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Speaker 1: go Kyle Heilton for breakout player. Okay.

604
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Speaker 3: I think that's a good answer. I mean, he was

605
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Speaker 3: it was fourteenth overall picks, so you have high expectations

606
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Speaker 3: for him. But now when we're talking all Pro Probowl

607
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Speaker 3: conversation with him, like he's now put himself in the

608
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Speaker 3: conversation of best safeties in the league. Yeah, I agree

609
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Speaker 3: that the guy I'll point to is Brandon Stevens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean this is somebody who's moving around different positions

612
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Speaker 3: and ends up getting his opportunity, just holds onto that

613
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Speaker 3: spot and is not just like a guy that they're

614
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Speaker 3: putting out there to, like, Okay, we got Stevens out there,

615
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Speaker 3: you'll see thee holds up like, no, he's out there.

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Speaker 3: Marlin has missed a ton of time this year, and

617
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Speaker 3: Brandon Stevens is covering the best receiver on the field

618
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Speaker 3: in a lot of these games, Jamar Chase, Keenan Allen,

619
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Speaker 3: Like he's running with those guys, and I think he's

620
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Speaker 3: done a great job of it, and I don't know where.

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Speaker 2: This defense would be yearly without him.

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Speaker 3: Like if Brandon Stevens was not as good as he's been,

623
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Speaker 3: then the Ravens could have a big hole, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, like Deby and Rocke.

625
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: I like the Death, I like Rock.

626
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Speaker 3: I like Darby, I do, but like Brandon won that

627
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: job and has n't given it up, and I'd love

628
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 3: the mentality that he plays with.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going Brandon Stevens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. If Kyle Hamilton didn't qualify, it would definitely be

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Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And Matta Bka he didn't qualify for this one.

633
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Speaker 1: He didn't qualify, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, what about surprise player to.

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Speaker 1: You, Gino? I think I think Gino has been the

636
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: biggest surprise of the year now, uh yeah, leading the

637
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: league and interceptions there for most of the season. Didn't

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00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: have that one on the Bingo card. So I'm going Gino, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, I am gonna sick defense. We're just going all

640
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Speaker 3: defense across the board here for this.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sate Flowers breakout player.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna go with Jadevion Clowney.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

644
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Speaker 3: I expected him to come in and honestly play a

645
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 3: role similar to what Jays and Pierre Paul did last year.

646
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 3: You know where he's in that like five sack range

647
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: where like he gets some pressures and like he's in

648
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: spot duty like a pretty good player. He's been excellent,

649
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 3: Like he has been tremendous. He's on pace to have

650
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: a career year. He might have the best production from

651
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: a SAX standpoint his entire career. He's getting a ton

652
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 3: of pressures. When you watch the games. He's disruptive. He

653
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 3: has the potential to be a game wrecker. The play

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Speaker 3: that he made against the Chargers on Sunday, I think

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Speaker 3: may have won them that game. So seven and a

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Speaker 3: half sacks. I hope he gets the double digits. I

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Speaker 3: think he will.

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Speaker 1: Would be pretty cool if he gets double digits.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that would be the first time in his career.

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Speaker 3: He had nine and a half previously. So for a

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Speaker 3: guy to be in his tenth season and to bounce

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Speaker 3: around to these different teams, done all these one year

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Speaker 3: contracts to have the best season of his career potentially

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Speaker 3: at this point says something. And I know he said

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Speaker 3: at the start of the year his goal was to

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Speaker 3: play all seventeen. He's played every game up to this point.

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Speaker 3: So knock on woodnock on wood, that that continues.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, what's been the best moment of this season?

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Speaker 1: Best play? Best moment? Well, what kind of look does together?

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Speaker 2: Best moment of the season? M what what do you have?

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Speaker 2: Do you have one of them that jumps to mine?

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Speaker 1: One one play that really stands out to me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the the Lamar touchdown off one leg was pretty pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Zay's catch deep against the Bengals when he went up

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Speaker 1: in tight coverage, you got that one kind of Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was a great play. The agular catch, touchdown catch

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Speaker 1: against the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: There's not like been one game that's like one in

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Speaker 2: a crazy like like like a game winner or something

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: Or really, Arthur Mallett might hold the closest thing to

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Speaker 1: a game winning play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was pretty far.

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Speaker 3: You know, I thought the I thought that the Odell

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Speaker 3: touchdown on his birthday was pretty great.

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Speaker 1: That was just a good moment.

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Speaker 3: That was a big moment for him, The team reaction,

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Speaker 3: everything that went into that I thought was a pretty

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Speaker 3: cool moment. So that might number one for me.

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, Keith Mitchell's touchdown. Yeah, yeah, Bryceon that's

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Speaker 1: a good suggestion.

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Speaker 3: Mitchell's touch but it's kind of marred by the overall

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Speaker 3: you know, he had the which which touchdown are you

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Speaker 3: talking about?

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Speaker 1: He's talking about the Seahawks Seahawks game when he had

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Speaker 1: the touchdown run and then the long touchdown also later

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Speaker 1: in the game, like Keaton Mitchell's like break breakout game

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Speaker 1: was a really cool moment. Yeah that was for the rookie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was that was pretty special.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's a there's a good number.

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling that there's gonna be one down

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Speaker 1: the stretch here. No no, like another big moment and

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be like a game winner. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: look at the Ravens schedule, right, and you come out

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Speaker 1: of the by against the Rams, and then you have

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Speaker 1: that three game grueling stretch. You have the Jags, then

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Speaker 1: the Christmas Day game in San Francisco, both those games

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Speaker 1: on the road, primetime games, both of them, and then

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Speaker 1: you come back against the Dolphins, finish with the Steelers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I think the Ravens should beat the Rams coming

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Speaker 1: out of bye. But then you're so you're looking at

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Speaker 1: ten and three. There, let's play this out next. Those

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Speaker 1: next three games specifically, I think you got to win

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Speaker 1: two of them, like you might need to win two

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Speaker 1: of them to win the division. Yeah, you might be

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Speaker 1: in that scenario.

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Speaker 3: That would be that would surprise me a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think that you can win the division at twelve

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Speaker 3: and five.

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Speaker 1: It depends if if the Steelers are the one that

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Speaker 1: are hanging there and you beat them in week seventeen,

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Speaker 1: which I expect the Ravens will. The Ravens are one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent a better team than Steelers. If the Steelers

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Speaker 1: win the division somehow, some way, that will be preposterous

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Speaker 1: but if the Raves lose to them twice, then they

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Speaker 1: deserve it. Yeah, so the Raves are a better team

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Speaker 1: than Steelers, but like, like I'm saying, the pressure's on

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Speaker 1: and you have to beat some really good teams down

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Speaker 1: the stretch. I think the Ravens are certainly capable of

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Speaker 1: doing so. Yeah, but it's not gonna be easy.

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Speaker 3: So it's not gonna be easy. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: tough road. And honestly, it's kind of like the playoffs

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Speaker 3: have kind of started, you know for the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: I really feel that way.

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Speaker 3: When they come back from the bye, it's kind of like,

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Speaker 3: all right, guys, like playoff mode activated here, because this

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Speaker 3: stretch is not going to be easy.

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Speaker 2: You're fighting for a one seed.

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville has been a house of horrors for the Ravens

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Speaker 1: over the years. And the forty nine Ers are arguably

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Speaker 1: the best team in football, and the Miami Dolphins are

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Speaker 1: arguably the most explosive offense in football.

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Speaker 3: Right and everyone remembers the Miami game here last year

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Speaker 3: when they were running all over this defense in the

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Speaker 3: second half of that game. Now, much different defense work

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Speaker 3: wasn't here. Lots of Kyle Hamilton was a different player.

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Speaker 1: That was going to say, Kyle Helenson is going to

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Speaker 1: remember that game. I think it's gonna be a little

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Speaker 1: different this time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I think there's a lot of differences.

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Speaker 3: However, you know, all that stuff is part of the

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Speaker 3: part of the equation here, and I think the Ravens,

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Speaker 3: like it was, sure would be nice to have a

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Speaker 3: first round by. Sure, it would be nice to have

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Speaker 3: the overall seed. Sure would be nice to have everybody

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Speaker 3: have to come to the bank.

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Speaker 1: And if you're going to get a first round by,

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Speaker 1: you probably have to run the table. Looking at the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: the chief schedule, and.

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Speaker 2: They got to run the table, and honestly that might

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Speaker 2: not even be enough.

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Speaker 1: It might not. They do also then they get the

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Speaker 1: number one by.

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Speaker 3: Yeah so I think that like all of that to say,

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Speaker 3: I think that the playoff mode, kind of the must

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Speaker 3: win mode is engaged.

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Speaker 1: I like that engage playoff mold. All right, well, thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening, make sure you're subscribed, leave us a rating review,

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Speaker 1: and enjoy this weekend off, watch some football, hopefully all

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Speaker 1: this free. Hopefully all the teams that the FC lose.

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Speaker 1: It's impossible, but hopefully somehow ties across the board I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Enjoy the weekend off Ravens fans. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back to you next week. We won't have filmed to

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Speaker 1: break down, but there will still be a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about it. Enjoy