Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong is Joe Getty arm Strong and Jackie I
Speaker 2: know he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 1: Mitt Romney announced over the weekend. When he didn't announce,
Speaker 1: somebody asked him. Mitt Romney said, when I asked, no,
Speaker 1: he's not running for president twenty twenty eight, and he
Speaker 1: quoted a statistic about the human brain and age that
Speaker 1: I want to pass along to you because I had
Speaker 1: been thinking about it since I heard it and find
Speaker 1: it annoying.
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, Okay, I will stay tuned. This is this is,
Speaker 2: this is. It makes you wonder what we're doing. Do
Speaker 2: we really feel this lousy about the economy? Diversity of
Speaker 2: Michigan Consumer Confidence Consumer Sentiment Index much discussed. It's been
Speaker 2: going on since the nineteen forties. The Michigan Survey of
Speaker 2: Consumers is the poll for how Americans have felt about
Speaker 2: the economy now for generation, and it's low. Right now.
Speaker 1: We don't feel good about the economy more than more
Speaker 1: than ever. We're despondent.
Speaker 2: A key survey of Americans consumers is scraping bottom showing
Speaker 2: they've never felt this lousy about the economy even at
Speaker 2: the height of the recessions or when the COVID pandemic
Speaker 2: COVID pandemic raged. We were talking about this a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. What could possibly explain that they're so
Speaker 2: anti Trump? Some people are, there's a price of gas
Speaker 2: when inflation is high. Nothing else manners. It's the survey itself.
Speaker 2: According to a growing number of critics, including several economists,
Speaker 2: They've pointed to methodology, methodology changes in the University of
Speaker 2: Michigan's Consumers element in index as bugs in the machine,
Speaker 2: saying they're skewing the results. Now the polling people are
Speaker 2: saying no. Low sentiment likely reflects a profound shift in
Speaker 2: mood since COVID struck, according to the survey director, but
Speaker 2: it shouldn't be too surprising. People felt differently about the world,
Speaker 2: including the economy, after the pandemic. It hit its lowest
Speaker 2: mark in May, lowest ever of them. The low readings
Speaker 2: they make the point in the journals seem at odds
Speaker 2: with an economy that appears decent, if not stellar. The
Speaker 2: country's adding jobs and consumers are continuing to spend despite
Speaker 2: worries about inflation and affordability, and I would point out
Speaker 2: increasing credit card and car loan defaults and the higher
Speaker 2: and higher level of debt. Maybe you shouldn't be spending
Speaker 2: that anyway. In twenty twenty four, Michigan, the University of
Speaker 2: moved to conducting its surveys via the web rather than
Speaker 2: a cell phone, a response to the problem the ongoing
Speaker 2: problem everybody knows surveyor's face and getting anybody to get
Speaker 2: answer the damn phone because everybody's being spammed all the time.
Speaker 2: So a couple of years ago they made that transition
Speaker 2: to online polls, and some critics think that made the
Speaker 2: sentiment index more downbeat, in part because other research has
Speaker 2: shown that when people are surveyed online, for some reason,
Speaker 2: they tend to be more negative than when they're speaking
Speaker 2: to a human being. Twenty twenty four analysis a couple
Speaker 2: of economists you've never heard of estimated that this survey
Speaker 2: method methodology shift shaved about nine points off the Michigan
Speaker 2: sentiment index nine points. Recent analysis from the Chicago Fed
Speaker 2: also took issue with the survey switch.
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that people are so much more
Speaker 1: negative being online than if you're asked on the phone.
Speaker 1: So sure, because of the algorithms feeding us depressing stuff constantly.
Speaker 1: We've trained our brains soon as we go online to
Speaker 1: immediately have a bad attitude.
Speaker 2: Probably, I wonder, or it could just be if there's
Speaker 2: another human being, you don't want to appear too negative
Speaker 2: and bitchy because it's not considered an attractive quality. I
Speaker 2: don't know. There's also the fact that this is undeniable,
Speaker 2: that the skew in partisan attitudes is as big as
Speaker 2: it's ever been. You ask a Republican right now, Republicans
Speaker 2: control the White House, as if the White House runs
Speaker 2: the economy. For God's sake, people shouldn't anyway. But you
Speaker 2: ask Republicans, they say, it's just freaking fine. You ask Democrats,
Speaker 2: They're like, it's horrible. We talked about this.
Speaker 1: I talked about this last week coming out of fourth
Speaker 1: and and I took in a ton of two hundred
Speaker 1: and fiftieth anniversary Founding stuff and up with America tweets
Speaker 1: and books and TV shows and speeches and all the
Speaker 1: different sort of stuff. And I was feeling pretty raw,
Speaker 1: raw about America and actually thought, Joe and I need
Speaker 1: to be less negative. We're too negative. But I did
Speaker 1: want to push back on all the ra RA with
Speaker 1: just a little bit of the All of those things
Speaker 1: are true structurally historically, everything about the United States being
Speaker 1: great and all that.
Speaker 2: Forced for good, et cetera, et cetera. But this whole.
Speaker 1: Educating the young people to hate their own country k
Speaker 1: through PhD is new and real and is going to
Speaker 1: bear fruit for a long time to come.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you believe Reagan that were never more
Speaker 2: than a generation or two from losing our liberty, or
Speaker 2: Jefferson that the price of liberty is eternal vigilance was
Speaker 2: Jefferson said that you might as well have if you
Speaker 2: believe those things, and if you don't, you're an idiot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a serious, serious problem, as I'm always saying.
Speaker 1: And then you throw in a dose of online information
Speaker 1: algorithm stuff that is all brand new to the world. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm not as optimistic going forward as a lot of
Speaker 1: the raw RA speeches were.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because you know, we're conducting a for
Speaker 2: profit enterprise here, and if we're too down beaten discouraging arguably,
Speaker 2: you know, for two downbeaten discouraging, it's not going to work.
Speaker 2: But from a purely patriotic standpoint, and this is distasteful
Speaker 2: and inappropriate. But I also don't want to be the
Speaker 2: guy telling Lindsey Graham, Oh, it's probably indigestion, don't worry
Speaker 2: about the chest pains, you know when they're is a serious,
Speaker 2: serious threat. And that is the successful perversion of our
Speaker 2: education system to become not a system of education but
Speaker 2: a system of indoctrination, the Marxist ideals, the current woke,
Speaker 2: postmodern version of it. So to me, you know, and
Speaker 2: I care as deeply as I do, and I know
Speaker 2: you do too, because I'm so positive about the United
Speaker 2: States of America and love it so much. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's the danger danger.
Speaker 1: Will Robinson, Okay, I promised you some information about the
Speaker 1: brain that I learned from Mitt Romney.
Speaker 2: Yes, thought was interesting. Would have made a great president.
Speaker 2: I've probably heard it. Yes, he absolutely would have.
Speaker 1: Well, you talk about an anachronism to today's politics, Mitt Romney.
Speaker 1: He was the left's.
Speaker 2: Version of Hitler back in two thy twelve. Give me
Speaker 2: a break. Every Republican is the left version of Hitler.
Speaker 2: It goes with but Mit Romney, Oh, I know, I know.
Speaker 2: Are you serious anyway? So Mitt Romney didn't announce he
Speaker 2: wasn't running for president. He wasn't out there talking about it. Somebody.
Speaker 1: He was doing an interview and somebody asked him and
Speaker 1: he said, I'm not running for president. In twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 1: he said, we need to do something about our move
Speaker 1: toward really, really old people being in government all the time.
Speaker 1: The human brain, according to Mitt Romney, the human brain
Speaker 1: shrinks by about twenty percent by the time you're eighty.
Speaker 1: The size of your brain is a fifth smaller by eighty.
Speaker 1: That seems like a lot.
Speaker 2: That's horrifying. Yes, I'd say so.
Speaker 1: That's one of his reasons why he didn't think people
Speaker 1: his age, because he's eighty, should be president. Trump's Adie
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell's two six Lindsey Grahm was a mere Yeah,
Speaker 1: Biden Lindsay Lindsey Graham was a mere seventy one?
Speaker 2: Does so?
Speaker 1: Does everybody's brain shrink, but some people just deal with
Speaker 1: it better? Or is that like an average and some
Speaker 1: people's brains don't shrink. To explain the Henry Kissingers or
Speaker 1: whoever of the world, that they get to a really
Speaker 1: old age and still their brain seem to work fine.
Speaker 2: I would guess it's some shrink a little some shrink.
Speaker 1: A lot, but I don't mind's like the size of
Speaker 1: a golf ball right now, it's like fifty when it
Speaker 1: once was.
Speaker 2: I can tell.
Speaker 1: It's just like I can shake my head and it's
Speaker 1: like bouncing around in there.
Speaker 2: Like a golf ball in a bathtub. That's just unfortunate. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh that's chilling. Absolutely, the great shrinking brain. At some point, well,
Speaker 2: we were gonna we were gonna talk about a couple
Speaker 2: of philosophical issues. At least we discussed it, one being
Speaker 2: having taken the am I having taken the longest vacation
Speaker 2: of my adult life. I'm thinking about retirement. And also
Speaker 2: our discussion about the hot new dating app for youngsters developed.
Speaker 2: I think it's Stanford, but it doesn't matter. That uses
Speaker 2: a questionnaire. It's not about animal luster looks. It's about
Speaker 2: interests and that sort of stuff. They hit both those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are interesting topics. So I'm gonna get a fresh,
Speaker 1: hot cup of coffee.
Speaker 2: Also have some really cool tributes to Lindsey Graham, the
Speaker 2: kind of guy he was.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna take my tiny little brain down to
Speaker 1: the coffee maker. We'll be back in just a second,
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Malice's he calls himself an anarchist, and
Speaker 1: he's a troll. He just likes to uh, he just
Speaker 1: likes to get attention and provoke people. It's also a
Speaker 1: super interest guy. He had Mark Alpern on his podcast
Speaker 1: and they were talking about Mark Alpern believes Bernie Sanders
Speaker 1: absolutely could be the Democratic nominee for president, despite the
Speaker 1: fact that he's currently eighty four. He'd be eighty it
Speaker 1: turns eighty five in a couple months. He'd be eighty
Speaker 1: seven on election day. But he's as sharp as he
Speaker 1: ever was. I should have used him as his example
Speaker 1: of his brain must not have shrunk. He's as sharp
Speaker 1: as he ever was. And that's the momentum of the
Speaker 1: party right now, and he's the best voice of it
Speaker 1: out there anyway. Michael Malice. I just came across a
Speaker 1: retweet of his hilarious it's Lindsey Graham and Heaven at
Speaker 1: the Saint Peter's at the Gates being hugged by a
Speaker 1: robed George Floyd with Hulk Hogan in the background, fist pumping.
Speaker 1: What it's so stupid, right, it doesn't mean anything's designed
Speaker 1: to provoke. Oh, I love that. I really love that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, boy, I also love my wife.
Speaker 2: So we were talking about earlier how the hot thing
Speaker 2: in California college campuses is this dating app? Has it
Speaker 2: got a clever name? I don't remember. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: that instead of like flipping through pictures, you fill out
Speaker 2: questionnaires of your interests and your favorite thing. AI matches
Speaker 2: you up amazing, and they are claiming an astounding ninety
Speaker 2: plus percent level of let's do a second date, which
Speaker 2: is a pretty good measure of success if you believe
Speaker 2: the numbers. And I don't, Although you know, it's probably
Speaker 2: a pretty good system. But my immediate reaction when I
Speaker 2: first read about this, and I think the writer writing
Speaker 2: about it said the same thing, is there's this funny
Speaker 2: assumption that you need to have like hobbies and interests,
Speaker 2: musical tastes in common and to fall in love with.
Speaker 1: I know, where does that come from. I've never found
Speaker 1: that to be true. It's not even true with my
Speaker 1: male friends, right. Why we become friends and enter into
Speaker 1: personal relationships doesn't seem to have anything to do with that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's because you both play golfs, but you might
Speaker 1: hate each other's music or whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: There's just there's some overlap, but they just kind of accidental.
Speaker 1: It's usually not why you're close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I've I've been with Judy now
Speaker 2: for forty years. We just took a couple of weeks
Speaker 2: off to celebrate it. I remember in the early days,
Speaker 2: I mean we had some common interests. We met doing
Speaker 2: are you quitting there? It was nineteen eighty three, believe
Speaker 2: it or not when we met, and uh, and we
Speaker 2: were both doing musical theater. She was in the cast,
Speaker 2: I was in the band. But yond that, it's she
Speaker 2: had no interest in golf. It plays a little now,
Speaker 2: not like most of the music I liked, had no
Speaker 2: interest in sports in general. And I was obsessed. You know,
Speaker 2: I could go on down the line. Sure, But we
Speaker 2: hit it off as friends, found each other to be attractive,
Speaker 2: made each other feel safe, and made each other laugh.
Speaker 2: And I couldn't have given a crap whether she liked
Speaker 2: gardening or opera.
Speaker 1: But in online dating, which I did for like six months,
Speaker 1: if you're not into if you're not a foodie who
Speaker 1: wants to do stand up paddle boarding, well then why
Speaker 1: would I want.
Speaker 2: To date you?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well that denies all your friends who are happily
Speaker 1: married who don't necessarily have those things in common.
Speaker 2: Right, for all of human history, and anytime anybody says
Speaker 2: that you really ought to think about it. For all
Speaker 2: of human history, virtually all romantic connection was proximity based.
Speaker 2: And what we're trying to do now, and oh man
Speaker 2: rolland friar at a great, great piece of about this
Speaker 2: and friendship. But anyway, what we're trying to do is, Okay,
Speaker 2: we never brush up against real human beings anymore. We're
Speaker 2: all on our screen. So let's let's figure out. Let's
Speaker 2: try to figure out what attracted people to each other
Speaker 2: without like the circumstance where it always took place. You
Speaker 2: rubbed it, you brushed up against them, you were in
Speaker 2: the same room with them, you saw them across the room,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, or he asked you if you knew
Speaker 2: where the number three bus ran or whatever. Let's remove
Speaker 2: all proximity in actual contact and try to figure out
Speaker 2: how people get And I think we've done a poor
Speaker 2: job of it. Yeah, I actually like any of those things.
Speaker 1: Whatever that's called that speed dating thing where everybody gets
Speaker 1: together in a room and you sit down for two
Speaker 1: minutes and talk to each other. That seems like a
Speaker 1: way better idea than that whatever that magic is, whether
Speaker 1: it's pheromones or something in the brain we don't understand
Speaker 1: or whatever, where you show interest in a person based
Speaker 1: on something other than just looks, that makes more sense
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I remember when the speed dating
Speaker 2: thing first came out, it seemed like, well, why are
Speaker 2: you in such a hurry? Seemed kind of silly. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think compared to the online thing, is probably a
Speaker 2: way way better idea. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I suppose we'll have to figure this out since we
Speaker 1: don't interact with the people anymore, and it's getting.
Speaker 2: Less so and less so.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: There was a piece in the New York Times the
Speaker 1: other day It's okay to date your coworkers. There was
Speaker 1: somebody wrote a guest in the New York Times about how,
Speaker 1: let's be realistic. This is where like everybody meets. It's
Speaker 1: your best opportunity to meet somebody. It's crazy that we've
Speaker 1: decided that's a no go zone since it's the only
Speaker 1: place you're gonna meet anybody, which I've always.
Speaker 2: Thought was true. That's funny, that's what we've been saying
Speaker 2: before during and after the whole Me Too, madness and
Speaker 2: ever since.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got some good Lindsay Graham stuff for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the things that are being said about
Speaker 2: from both sides of the aisle, and just the kind
Speaker 2: of guy he was, really, really an admirable human being.
Speaker 1: As he's up in Heaven, George Floyd with his arm
Speaker 1: around him with Hulk Hogan looking on.
Speaker 2: That says it all to me. That's America and Heaven.
Speaker 2: I guess Heaven is America.
Speaker 1: Okay, we got more on the way if you missed
Speaker 1: the Seggets the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4: I never thought to be in this position, Yeah, I said.
Speaker 4: I thought Lindsey was going to be living forever. I
Speaker 4: never thought. I never I said, Lindsey, you're going to
Speaker 4: live forever. And he was going to have a big victory,
Speaker 4: you know, he was. He was scheduled to win by
Speaker 4: a lot. He had my support, and he was scheduled
Speaker 4: he was going to win by a lot. He was
Speaker 4: going to have one of his best elections ever. And
Speaker 4: now he's got.
Speaker 1: This terrible One of the most influential senators in the
Speaker 1: country over the last quarter Century dropped dead over the weekend.
Speaker 2: I mentioned this earlier. I think it's worth repeating. Stupid
Speaker 2: people are unleashing stupid analysis for other stupid people, saying
Speaker 2: that Lindsay Graham was a hypocrite and a psycophant of
Speaker 2: Trump and had no principles. You could tell because he
Speaker 2: criticized Trump then was with him, which is just so dumb.
Speaker 2: Good Lord, Lindsey Graham had certain beliefs and if Trump
Speaker 2: became president, and Lindsey was utterly dedicated to bringing those
Speaker 2: beliefs to fruition. They had a lot to do with
Speaker 2: a robust foreign policy and using American armed force and
Speaker 2: defending freedom and pro life and the rest of it.
Speaker 2: He was going to work with Trump because he had to.
Speaker 2: He wasn't gonna stomp off and take his toys and
Speaker 2: go home. And he also, just by disposition, he likes people.
Speaker 2: He's definitely the sort of guy who brings people together
Speaker 2: and shakes the hand of his opponents and smiles and
Speaker 2: means it. It's interesting. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I just don't have the personality to like cozy up
Speaker 1: to and spend lots of time with people that like
Speaker 1: I just really have no respect for them.
Speaker 2: I would find that really hard to do.
Speaker 1: Like, if I think you're a lying grifter, I couldn't
Speaker 1: play golf with you twice a week. And that's what
Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham thought about Trump. Guarantee you I certainly did
Speaker 1: back when he started running. But anyway, I understand the
Speaker 1: point of if you have certain things you want to
Speaker 1: get done, you need to be relevant enough to you know,
Speaker 1: be in Trump's here and have an effect on foreign policy,
Speaker 1: which I guarantee you he did. I guarantee he got
Speaker 1: more of what he cared about done in office than
Speaker 1: he'd been out of office. The difference is people who
Speaker 1: flip flop and go with the wind who don't seem
Speaker 1: to have either because like I don't know who'd be
Speaker 1: a good example, but like I use the example of Biden.
Speaker 1: I hate to use him perfect I hate to use
Speaker 1: Biden just because he's the other party and it sounds
Speaker 1: like I'm picking a Republican to you know, venerate a
Speaker 1: Democrat to attack. But if you can think of a
Speaker 1: good public and that would be fine.
Speaker 2: Who who flip.
Speaker 1: Flops and changes gears and you know, all that sort
Speaker 1: of stuff but doesn't seem to have a through line.
Speaker 1: If your through line is healthcare for everyone, or foreign
Speaker 1: policy like Lindsay Graham, or abortion or whatever, and you
Speaker 1: do whatever you got to do to stay in office,
Speaker 1: to keep fighting the same fight. You always say the
Speaker 1: same thing about your core mission. I get that, even
Speaker 1: though I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's the difference between wanting to stay involved
Speaker 2: in relevant to accomplish something or wanting to stay involved
Speaker 2: in relevant just to profit from it or be relevant
Speaker 2: be on TV. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, And I think it's
Speaker 2: Jim Garrity perhaps in the Yeah. And the National Review
Speaker 2: makes the point that though he was seen as some
Speaker 2: sort of reagunite holdover in a the relic of the
Speaker 2: past and a loser, he sure seem to win a lot.
Speaker 2: The America first president is in office, but he kept
Speaker 2: selling arms to Ukraine. Well it's not for a while,
Speaker 2: but I think we're back. Put Nicholas Maduro in jail,
Speaker 2: made Marco Rubio, the de facto Viceroy of Venezuela a bomb.
Speaker 2: The heck out of the Iranians throughout the year scared
Speaker 2: the Cuban government so badly it keeps emphasizing it's willing
Speaker 2: to negotiate to avoid a US invasion, and next year's
Speaker 2: defense appropriation is going to be at a minimum one
Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars more than last year, if not five
Speaker 2: hundred billion more. Graham figured out he can get more
Speaker 2: done with Trump. Is an ally and developed a genuine
Speaker 2: friendship with the President. And he was a pragmatist he
Speaker 2: you know, he was also eloquent and hilarious. His defense
Speaker 2: of Brett Kavanaugh was a hero moment. We played that
Speaker 2: earlier today, we should play it again. But he's a pragmatist.
Speaker 2: He thought, I need to get done what I want
Speaker 2: to get done. If I've got to work with X,
Speaker 2: Y and Z, that's who I'm going to work with,
Speaker 2: and a bunch of people with pouring out tributes, including
Speaker 2: Trump of course, to Lindsey Graham, here are some of
Speaker 2: my favorites. John Fund remembers an interview with the Senator
Speaker 2: last year. Right, So, Graham looked back on his career
Speaker 2: with satisfaction and gratitude. I thank the Lord my parents
Speaker 2: that I've done pretty well for being just a cracker
Speaker 2: named Graham. Jay Nordlinger shares a story of uh, well,
Speaker 2: that's kind of It's a dry joke, but he was very,
Speaker 2: very funny. Michael Brendan Doherty, who's a real kind of
Speaker 2: America first Trumpian conservative, says, I met Lindsay Graham while
Speaker 2: he was campaigning in New Hampshire for a profile piece
Speaker 2: for my questions. He quickly figured out my foreign policy
Speaker 2: perspective was Buchananite. He relished debating it out, made honest
Speaker 2: emissions against interest when we got deep in the weeds
Speaker 2: on the hoothies, and had far more in room charisma
Speaker 2: than I expected. He was funny, magnanimous, and extremely effective
Speaker 2: as an advocate for his views, especially where I disagreed
Speaker 2: with him. May you rest in peace. Minnesota Senator Amy
Speaker 2: Klobochar wrote, what can't be forgotten is the reason why
Speaker 2: so many people he worked with, from senator to staff,
Speaker 2: will earn his law more in his loss, Lindsay had
Speaker 2: a zest for life in the Senate that made you
Speaker 2: want to get to work on a bill with him,
Speaker 2: or at least debate him. He brought joy to his job.
Speaker 2: He was one of the few who was willing to
Speaker 2: work with me when so few would. On helping the
Speaker 2: Afghan refugees, and she goes on with the several other
Speaker 2: stories of them working together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Corey Booker put out a great video yesterday, the
Speaker 1: Democrat from New York, New Jersey. Right, yeah, great video
Speaker 1: talking about working with Lindsay Graham on a couple of
Speaker 1: different things and how similar to the things you just said.
Speaker 1: Part of it was he if he was really into something,
Speaker 1: he would work with anybody. Again to the you know,
Speaker 1: working with Trump, working with Corey Booker. Here's something. Aren't
Speaker 1: enough politicians who are policy based. Who gives a crap
Speaker 1: what party anybody is or what their personal lives are
Speaker 1: like or whatever else. If you can get if you've
Speaker 1: got a policy you care about and you want to
Speaker 1: get it, you know, legislation passed. I don't understand why
Speaker 1: there isn't more of that, but Corbooker saying that if
Speaker 1: you want to get it, something passed, and he was
Speaker 1: on your side, he was like the best at trying
Speaker 1: to get stuff to actually happen. Plus bringing the joy
Speaker 1: to it. He mentioned that too. He just got you
Speaker 1: fired up about working on it because he brought so
Speaker 1: much energy to the project, right right, Yeah, Yeah, And
Speaker 1: we've all been around people like that that just man,
Speaker 1: there's just something about the energy they bring that makes
Speaker 1: everything move forward more. Oh yeah, and that sort of
Speaker 1: person is absolutely invaluable to any effort Michael Place sixty
Speaker 1: for us, we made reference to this.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 3: Did you know that her staff had already recommended a lawyer.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sorry, go ahead and stop it. I'm
Speaker 2: going to set this up briefly like I did before.
Speaker 2: It's the Kavanaugh hearings. At the last minute, theocrats had
Speaker 2: brought out this doctor Ford Gal who had vague memories
Speaker 2: of being sexually assaulted by some teenage boys decades ago
Speaker 2: in high school, said Brett Kavanaugh was one of them.
Speaker 2: There's no corroberating evidence, no contemporaneous accounts of it. It
Speaker 2: just came out of nowhere. And they did not go
Speaker 2: through the Hey, let's get this investigated and see if
Speaker 2: it's substantive procedure. They just threw it out at the
Speaker 2: last minute, and Kavanaugh had blasted them. He'd finally said,
Speaker 2: all right, that's enough. I'm not going to sit here
Speaker 2: like a nice boy and be accused of being a
Speaker 2: gang rapist in front of my family in the nation.
Speaker 2: This is horrifying. And then some people said, oh, he
Speaker 2: doesn't have the temperament to be a justice. They came
Speaker 2: back from a lunch break and Lindsay let loose.
Speaker 3: Did you know that her staff had already recommended a
Speaker 3: lawyer to dodnor Ford.
Speaker 2: I did not know that.
Speaker 3: Did you know that her and her staff had this
Speaker 3: allegations for over twenty days?
Speaker 2: I did not know that at the time.
Speaker 3: If you wanted an FBI investigation, you could have come
Speaker 3: to us. What you want to do is destroy this
Speaker 3: guy's life. Hold this seat open, and hope you went
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. You've said that, not me. You've got
Speaker 3: nothing to apologize for. When you see Soda Maron Kegan,
Speaker 3: tell him that Lindsay said, Oh, because I voted for them,
Speaker 3: I would never do to them what you've done to
Speaker 3: this guy. This is the most unethical sham since I've
Speaker 3: been in politics. And if you really wanted to know
Speaker 3: the truth, you sure as hell wouldn't have done what
Speaker 3: you've done to this guy.
Speaker 2: Are you a gang rapist?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I cannot imagine what you and your family have gone through. Boy,
Speaker 3: y'all want power. God, I hope you never get it.
Speaker 2: I hope the American people.
Speaker 3: Can see through this sham that you knew about it, and.
Speaker 2: You held it.
Speaker 3: I had no intention of protecting dot or Fort none.
Speaker 3: She's as much of a victim as you are.
Speaker 2: God.
Speaker 3: I hate to say that because these had been my friends,
Speaker 3: But let me tell you, when it comes to this,
Speaker 3: you're looking for a fair process. You came to the
Speaker 3: wrong town at the wrong time.
Speaker 2: My friend. Well, that's the all time quote, and it
Speaker 2: hasn't gotten any better. N As Garrity points out in
Speaker 2: the National Review, Lindsey Graham cast his votes for Sonya
Speaker 2: Sotomayor in Atlanta Kagan in the closing days of an
Speaker 2: era where senators believe that if a judicial nominee was
Speaker 2: sufficiently qualified, then they should get the vote, even if
Speaker 2: they disagreed with the nominee's philosophy. In announcing his vote
Speaker 2: for Kagan, Graham said, Obama quote chose someone who's qualified
Speaker 2: to serve on this court and understands the difference between
Speaker 2: being a liberal judge and a politician. At the end
Speaker 2: of the day, it was not a hard decision. She
Speaker 2: would not have been someone I would have chosen, But
Speaker 2: the person who did choose, President Obama chose wisely. It's
Speaker 2: worth noting in twenty twenty two he voted against Katanji
Speaker 2: Brown Jackson and said, and I quote not, I'll bet
Speaker 2: she is a gang rapist. He said, her record is overwhelming,
Speaker 2: and it's lack of a steady judicial philosophy and a
Speaker 2: tendency to achieve outcomes in spite of what the law
Speaker 2: requires or common sense would dictate. And he said, with respect,
Speaker 2: I can't vote for her. He's an agent. That's true,
Speaker 2: that's not true. She's very bright but utterly ideological. Ah,
Speaker 2: what was I gonna say? Oh, it's important. You distracted
Speaker 2: me with the idiot thing. But do you have breaking
Speaker 2: news around Lindsay Graham?
Speaker 1: The governor who gets to a point someone to fill
Speaker 1: the spot until the election November has announced they are
Speaker 1: going to choose Lindsey Graham's sister, his younger sister who
Speaker 1: he adopted and took care of when both of their
Speaker 1: parents died fifteen months apart, when Lindsay was nineteen. God
Speaker 1: dang it, that's a rough situation. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're taking care of your sister and you're the breadwinner
Speaker 1: as a college student, yeah, with no money.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then he went into the military, where he was for
Speaker 1: thirty years. But anyway, she is going to She has
Speaker 1: been at his side throughout his political career.
Speaker 2: I didn't know anything about his sister.
Speaker 1: Mother of two, works helping people with disabilities find jobs.
Speaker 1: She has been part of his every campaign he's ever had,
Speaker 1: so she's certainly familiar with his thinking on all that.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I wonder if she's going to
Speaker 2: run for the seat in November, because this is just
Speaker 2: a caretaker role, to hold a seat until leliction.
Speaker 1: I know she might be fantastic. I have no idea,
Speaker 1: but I'm not a fan of family lineage for our politics.
Speaker 2: I mean, that is not what we should be doing right. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm a little uncomfortable with it too. Although there's was
Speaker 2: a former senator or former big wheel in South Carolina
Speaker 2: politics immediately jumped up. I mean the ambulance hadn't yet
Speaker 2: delivered poor Lindsay's body to the funeral home. This guy said,
Speaker 2: I'm willing to take the job. He's seventy eight years old,
Speaker 2: and he outside will be running for another term as well. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'll bet she she.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised she doesn't end up being US
Speaker 1: senator represented holding that seat for the next twenty years.
Speaker 2: She wants it.
Speaker 1: That happens all over the country where somebody dies in
Speaker 1: their wife ends up being the person or vice versa.
Speaker 2: I don't like that. It feels stupid to me. And
Speaker 2: again I know nothing about Ms. Graham if that is
Speaker 2: her name or whatever her last name is. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, as a conservative South Carolina voter, are
Speaker 2: you going to say, well, this Republican is a legacy higher.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a family lineage thing. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: ahead and give the office to the Democrats for six years. Well,
Speaker 2: we come up with a better candidate. It's tough. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I will finish strong.
Speaker 5: Next, authorities found a man living hermit style and off
Speaker 5: grid in an Arizona forest, surrounded by one thousand pounds
Speaker 5: of trash. Police are asking the public if anyone has
Speaker 5: ever heard of a man named Keith Oberman.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's an interesting style of comedy. He has um.
Speaker 1: So Joe is back from his vacation in Alaska. You
Speaker 1: probably saw that video of him being flipped up in
Speaker 1: the air by a bison. But he's okay and he's
Speaker 1: bounced back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had successfully dodged a moose. So imagine my
Speaker 2: disappointment when the bison took up the chase.
Speaker 1: He had a good plan running behind those trees, but
Speaker 1: that bison just knocked those trees down.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was thinking, boy, I got a good lead
Speaker 2: on him. Now finally, whoa up, I went head over ass. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But while you were in Alaska, did you catch
Speaker 1: on to We talked about this last week, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to bring it to your intention in case you
Speaker 1: didn't know about it. What the Democrats are doing up
Speaker 1: there allegedly running against Senator Dan Sullivan.
Speaker 2: Uh No, I don't think I caught that.
Speaker 1: Another guy named Dan Sullivan is running as a Republican
Speaker 1: against Dan Sullivan, who is the current list sitting Republican
Speaker 1: as a Republican as a Republican to try to split
Speaker 1: the vote because of the way they do their voting
Speaker 1: in Alaska. Yes, because of the way they do their
Speaker 1: voting in Alaska, So splitting the vote between the two Republicans,
Speaker 1: so the Democrat, this woman named Peltola, could win, and
Speaker 1: so the Republicans tried to like get this stop in
Speaker 1: the courts.
Speaker 2: And everything like that.
Speaker 1: But it's actually the guy's name, it's his actual name,
Speaker 1: Dan Sullivan. He just has a different middle initial and
Speaker 1: he's claims he's a Republican and he's just always run
Speaker 1: to run for governor. It's just a coincidence, even though
Speaker 1: he's only donated money to Democratic causes and throughout his life,
Speaker 1: and he hired a Democratic campaign person to help him
Speaker 1: with his campaign. His colors are the same, and his
Speaker 1: motto is almost exactly the all obvious.
Speaker 2: What's going on here, but all's fair in love and politics. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's actually kind of funny. It's incredibly troubling, but funny.
Speaker 2: I did not see that. What I did see was
Speaker 2: in a couple of towns, big sign saying and rank
Speaker 2: choice voting.
Speaker 1: Now, ah, yeah, Alaska's the biggest experiment in that, and
Speaker 1: they a lot of people are not happy with the
Speaker 1: way it's turned out, as you saw with Democrats in California,
Speaker 1: were a cup of coffee there where you thought there
Speaker 1: was gonna be two Republican governor candidates liked it when
Speaker 1: it was only going to be Democrats ever winning. You
Speaker 1: can't stop a guy whose name is Dan Sullivan for
Speaker 1: running just because the current senator has the same name.
Speaker 2: Obviously, it's terrible and hilarious. What are you gonna do? Huh?
Speaker 2: You know, Jack Armstrongan get final the Haunting Echo.
Speaker 1: Here's your host for final thoughts back from vacation, Joegin.
Speaker 2: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
Speaker 2: to wrap up the show for the day. Michael Angelow
Speaker 2: will lead the way from the control room. Michael final thought.
Speaker 6: I'm glad you enjoyed your vacation, but I'm glad you returned.
Speaker 6: I was really worried because you were sending the staff
Speaker 6: these beautiful pictures. I thought, we may never see him again.
Speaker 6: He'll just send us a note and that's going to
Speaker 6: be it.
Speaker 2: I'll jump in with my final thought. Here in the
Speaker 2: dead of summer, there was not a high temperature above
Speaker 2: sixty degrees for two weeks. Wow, it was fan at
Speaker 2: the stick. And yes, I considered moving to Alaska. Jack
Speaker 2: a final thought for us, I had one, but'll change
Speaker 2: it to this.
Speaker 1: It is very difficult on vacations to not contemplate moving
Speaker 1: to wherever you are. That is just like I know
Speaker 1: somebody who almost bought a condo and Croatia. I think, oh,
Speaker 1: like really really came close, Like I want to live
Speaker 1: here the rest of my life.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Then you get back home and you think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sure Key West, like I was looking at real estate there.
Speaker 2: It took me a while to figure out, Yes, this
Speaker 2: is a nice place. But what you're really in love
Speaker 2: with is the way you feel right now. The reason
Speaker 2: you feel that way right now is you're on vacation.
Speaker 2: If you're slogging to work and run into the grocery
Speaker 2: store and all crap, I've forgot to mail this bill.
Speaker 2: In that place, it's gonna feel a lot like the
Speaker 2: old place.
Speaker 1: Or even if you just if you're not working, but
Speaker 1: you're not there just temporarily, you're there permanently.
Speaker 2: They have a different feeling.
Speaker 1: It doesn't need Armstrong and Geeddy wrapping up another grueling
Speaker 1: four hour workday.
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Speaker 3: Cool man.
Speaker 1: Though War and Iran could really explode into a real
Speaker 1: war at any moment, and I know that's been true
Speaker 1: for quite a few months down but more true today.
Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow with the latest God Bless America.
Speaker 3: When you see Soda Maron Kegan, tell him that Lindsay said, oh,
Speaker 3: because I voted for them, I would never do to.
Speaker 2: Them what you've done to this guy.
Speaker 3: This is the most unethical sham since I've been in politics,
Speaker 3: and if you really wanted to know the truth, you
Speaker 3: sure as hell wouldn't have done what you've done to
Speaker 3: this guy. You're looking for a fair process. You came
Speaker 3: to the wrong town at the wrong time.
Speaker 2: My friend Armstrong and Getty