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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two eighty seven,

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Speaker 1: Episode two of Daily Hei Guys YI production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: This is the podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. I think my voice is like

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Speaker 1: seventy percent back. The only way I find that out

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Speaker 1: is when I screamed our Daily's. I guess I'd hear

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Speaker 1: all the different little crackling in my vocal cord and

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Speaker 1: figure out, Yeah, we're getting there. We're making progress here.

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Speaker 1: Check in check, can't check. Yeah, just checking in all

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Speaker 1: the all the different registers, all the levels. It is Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: May sixteenth, twenty twenty three. You love this day. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you gotta love it, folks.

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Speaker 2: International Day of Living Together in Peace Day, Yeah, National

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Speaker 2: Classic Movie Day, National Biographers Day, Yeah, Graphers Yeah, National

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Speaker 2: Love of Tree Day, National Sea Monkey Day, National check

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Speaker 2: your white Fursday.

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Speaker 1: Your damn wipers. I just did that the.

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Speaker 2: Other day, and they were brittle stones that were merely

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Speaker 2: just going to smear water across my windshield. National Mimosa Day,

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Speaker 2: National Piercing Day, National Day.

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Speaker 1: This is like there's a ton anyway, man.

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Speaker 2: That's honor our LGBT Elder's Day, National Barbecue Day. I

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Speaker 2: heard that one nation will do something good for your neighbors,

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Speaker 2: like just fucking just enjoy, just check your wife.

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Speaker 1: It feels like it could be a redneck comedy tour punchline.

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Speaker 1: You might want to check your wipers. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the build up to that. That's where you

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Speaker 1: need chat GPT, where you just go create a stand

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Speaker 1: up routine where the entire brand is built off this punchline. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you may want to check your wipers. Also, the International

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Speaker 1: Day of Peaceful Humans Living Together feels like it was

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Speaker 1: written by cat GPT or someone who just is trying

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Speaker 1: to convent pretend that they're human. Yeah, just trying to

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Speaker 1: look but you know, it's it's just urging people to

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Speaker 1: live together. I think it was after in response to

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Speaker 1: World War II. Iy Ay, that's what that World War

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Speaker 1: made me say. Yea, yea. My name is Jack O'Brien

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Speaker 1: aka NBA sad Boy. Oh man, my sixers, those dang

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Speaker 1: sixers they did it again. Yeah, I'm not gonna not

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Speaker 1: gonna freak out like everyone thinks. Yeah, I just I

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Speaker 1: no longer have sadness in me to give to them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you knew all along. I did. It's it's kind

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Speaker 1: of wild, like once you get to this point with

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Speaker 1: a team where you're like paying a lot of attention

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Speaker 1: to them, you actually know that they're going to lose.

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Speaker 1: Like that that game, the Game seven that they lost

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Speaker 1: on Sunday Mother's Day. Thank you the NBA was that

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Speaker 1: game was always lost, right, it was. It was written

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Speaker 1: in stone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, beginning of the season, your prediction was crashed out

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Speaker 2: of the second round.

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Speaker 1: The second round. They have a gravitational equilibrium and it

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Speaker 1: is the second round and everything else is just you know,

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Speaker 1: shuffling the deck. But we're we're going out in the

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Speaker 1: second round and we're not gonna do it in style necessarily.

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Speaker 1: But I'm excited about the rest of the playoffs without

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Speaker 1: them and rooting on your Los Angeles Lakers. Oh yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 1: who am I talking to? Oh? You know, to join

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Speaker 1: by my co host, mister Miles grow.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's Miles Greg Greg Gray of the Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: Gregers aka Lebron Grahames aka Anthony Gravis aka ruy Hachi

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Speaker 2: Moro's cousin. I'll just say that, you know, shout out

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Speaker 2: to black and must God out there, Uh yes, and

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Speaker 2: shout out to every all the Lakers fans out there,

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Speaker 2: and sadly the Arsenal fans, because while I am a

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Speaker 2: Laker fan, I'm also an Arsenal supporter. And we we

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Speaker 2: also fucked the bed a bit this weekend, losing three

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Speaker 2: nil to Brighton and basically just kissed any chance, any.

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Speaker 1: Hope of the Premier League trophy goodbye.

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Speaker 2: So in a similar way, I was like, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if we can win it as Arsenal, and they

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Speaker 2: also proved me right in that sense very last.

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Speaker 1: Time Arsenal one.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, we'd have to go back to the season

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Speaker 2: of our Lord two thousand and three, two thousand and four.

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, so I mean there's there's some winning

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Speaker 1: there though. Yeah. I mean luckily I was.

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Speaker 2: I've been supporting the team since prior to that and

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Speaker 2: the previous premiership that we won before that. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's it's but let me tell you, Jack, going from

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Speaker 2: three to four to now is fucking.

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Speaker 1: Pay rough sled ride down there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you know it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: But also, hey, I'm glad to see that Tottenham won't

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Speaker 2: make the Champions League.

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Speaker 1: So hold that one. Yeah, that's why, Like my main

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Speaker 1: thing is just that the Celtics don't win the title,

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Speaker 1: so anything that can be done to prevent them. Fair

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Speaker 1: Celtics fairs are like, gosh, why are you like so many?

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Speaker 1: It's because I'm a sick person. And it doesn't it

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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. It is not the Happiness Lab with

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Speaker 1: doctor Lori Santos. We're not over here on some like

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Speaker 1: mild mannered, well balanced over here. I'm a broken person. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: Miles speaking of broken persons, and that's not true. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of one of my favorite directors, he's very funny podcast

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Speaker 1: host and he made some of the best videos at Cracked,

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Speaker 1: some of my favorite short comedy sketches anywhere. I'm thrilled

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Speaker 1: that he and TDZ favorite Michael Swam of Those Aren't

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Speaker 1: Muskets Fame are teaming up to make a new film

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Speaker 1: called Papa Bear that you can find out about contribute to.

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Speaker 1: We will link off to where in the footnotes. But

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Speaker 1: please welcome to this show. The brilliant, the talented, hebe

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Speaker 1: aperson maybe babe.

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Speaker 3: My thank you for letting me be here. And uh,

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Speaker 3: you know Sully the waters of the daily Zeitgeist. Are

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Speaker 3: you share Jack your pain?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? As a Warriors fan, oh, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm humping the Nuggies take it all the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it's it's that's my favorite part about

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Speaker 2: losing is you're like, well, now this team is my champion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get to choose one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so excited to be rooting for Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 1: against the Celtics. The Celtics fans are extremely confident, which

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Speaker 1: is just how Jimmy Butler wants them. They're confident like

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Speaker 1: a bunch of teenagers at Camp Crystal Lake, you know,

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Speaker 1: with care in the world, and Jimmy Butler is just

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Speaker 1: off the quarter reference for the kids. Yeah, something for

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, exciting times.

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Speaker 1: Exciting yeah yeah yeah, well you know, real to be

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Speaker 1: an exciting summer because yeah, you got you got quite

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Speaker 1: the wage bill over there.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah. The Warriors, it's gonna it's it's gonna be murder.

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Speaker 1: Jah Rule just shows up as Abe. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,

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Speaker 1: a couple of things that we are talking about from

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Speaker 1: the news. We're going to talk about Jordan Neely and

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Speaker 1: the new Kyle Rittenhouse. The person who murdered Jordan Neely

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Speaker 1: is now a cause Celebrae on the right. So well,

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Speaker 1: we'll just talk about the way they're speaking about that

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Speaker 1: story on the right, and another opportunity to show they

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Speaker 1: actually don't know the Bible that they do. But hey,

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Speaker 1: as a text, not not overlyaf familiar or reading comprehension,

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Speaker 1: leaving something or be desired a new reality just dropped

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Speaker 1: reality pro I think is what they're calling it. Apple

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Speaker 1: is expected to release some goggles in a couple of

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Speaker 1: week and this is like one I remember. This was

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Speaker 1: what it was like before the iPad came out, where

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Speaker 1: it was like, oh shit, this like what's it going

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Speaker 1: to be? Is it going to be? You know, because

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Speaker 1: dropped their right iPad. I mean that shit's gonna be

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Speaker 1: like it's gonna have magic powers. Is gonna be like

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Speaker 1: a hoverboard that you've got to ride on to work

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Speaker 1: and then use as a screen. And yeah, so people

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Speaker 1: are excited about these goggles. Well I'm not. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about it, Miles, but what you have to understand is

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Speaker 1: please tell me I actually I don't fully get it.

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. We'll talk Richie dreif Drife

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Speaker 1: Dicky Dry Dry because he has some interesting takes. All

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Speaker 1: of that plenty more. But first, abe Eperson, we like

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Speaker 1: to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?

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Speaker 3: Ooh man, I'm gonna I'm gonna reveal myself and my

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Speaker 3: like weird interests. I'm fascinated with subcultures right. In some

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Speaker 3: cases it's like the joy of seeing, like go human

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Speaker 3: to see what like God's up to, you know, like

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Speaker 3: what kind of hell hath he rot? And I saw

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Speaker 3: on Twitter? The concept of like you know, it's been

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Speaker 3: around for many years, the concept of the like the

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Speaker 3: rising grind bros, kind of like like nft Zelots who

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Speaker 3: discussed how to reach success and that really fascinated me,

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Speaker 3: which leads me to a recent search I did maybe

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Speaker 3: a week ago, which was an entrepreneur TikTok compilation.

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Speaker 1: No God.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I want to see as many as possible,

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Speaker 3: and frankly, like I love it. These are people like

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Speaker 3: you tell you like how to make like twelve thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars in a month making like an Amazon reseller business,

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Speaker 3: or like investing in seeds or some nonsense, and there's

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Speaker 3: a strange kind of eerie magnetism to them. They kind

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Speaker 3: of have this dreadful seriousness and like they act way

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Speaker 3: too famili you're with you, and they play like, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, like the soundtrack to the Secret Life of

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Speaker 3: Walter Midi over it. It's like frankly haunting. And they

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Speaker 3: all have like the same eyes, like they see past

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Speaker 3: you and it's all arithmetic to them, Like these robots

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Speaker 3: to walk on the earth. And I love it, like

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Speaker 3: the delusion, the solipsistic kind of performance of it all.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's probably loads of wisdom than anyone puppeting,

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Speaker 3: you know, just like goodwill or soundbye, wisdom can stumble upon.

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Speaker 3: But like frankly, you know, it's all it's all rigged anyway,

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Speaker 3: and it's like you're not really doing anything. And I

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Speaker 3: just love to see as many of those people as possible.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of like how I spend my time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's because.

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Speaker 2: About how to get how to get that lambeau. Hey,

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Speaker 2: when I look at you, I don't see it in

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Speaker 2: your eyes, you know, like I don't. I can tell

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Speaker 2: that you go to sleep probably like maybe seven hours

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Speaker 2: a night, which is basically like loser shit, you know.

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Speaker 1: What I know.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm up at two thirty, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: and I'm looking at the like every stock market on earth,

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Speaker 2: and the look that you see in my eye is

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Speaker 2: actually the lambeau that's about to manifest.

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Speaker 1: That's what you're.

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Speaker 3: Seeing, shark shaped lambeau.

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Speaker 1: I love. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They all just want to sell their companies too. It's

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Speaker 2: like and then this is how you get the valuation.

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Speaker 2: Then you sell your.

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Speaker 1: Company like okay, sure, like if that's what you think.

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Speaker 1: But like it's that guy. It's like that guy the

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Speaker 1: five hour work week. This was like the I remember

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Speaker 1: like the first example of this, whereas like guy who's

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Speaker 1: like I'm all about this like lifestyle and like you know,

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Speaker 1: how great my life yeah, Tim Ferris, and like how

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Speaker 1: But then like the thing he was like doing was

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Speaker 1: just like selling bullshit to people and like making other

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Speaker 1: people do the work for him. Yeah, and it was

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is not This is not a hot take,

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Speaker 3: It might put the prop How dare I put some

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Speaker 1: Did you watch Air?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I was expecting to be like swept away.

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Speaker 3: It's just like, oh, oh my god, get off your horse. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That if you are correct, like Shakespeare was dunking on

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Speaker 3: So I've been having this sphace the short answers. Rain hats.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if that's what you call them.

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Speaker 3: What do you call like hats that like for rainy days,

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Speaker 1: And oh, okay, Myles and Frankly Myles just put on

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Speaker 3: And Frankly, I'm tired of this baseball hat pagemony. You know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, fantastic hat, top to your hat, but let

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Speaker 3: rain hat have it stay in the sun. Yes, what

435
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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Three sixty coverage. Yeah. And also I'm I'm trying to

437
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: fuck with the neck saver flap two. Oh you know

438
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Speaker 1: what I mean back of it, like oh that son,

439
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: are you're really out there? I'm like, you got to.

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Speaker 2: Learn from the people who whose business it is to

441
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: be in the sun all day like that ship.

442
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: Your neck is like beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you can't let that expose I always forget

444
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: to get the back of my neck with any kind

445
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: of protection, and that's usually like the first spot I end.

446
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: Up being burned. So yeah, and by people whose job

447
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: it is to be in the sun all day. You

448
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: mean Australians. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why I

449
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: see it the like long neck flap is like that

450
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: that hat. I'm always like, what are we in Australia? Hey,

451
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: hey jackass? What are we down under? What are we

452
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: down under? Yeah? A nice bucket hat something that I

453
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: could never pull off, but I think but when it's raining,

454
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Speaker 1: you can. It's functional. No one's ever going to be like,

455
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: what are you doing, asshole? Is the raining? You're like, yeah,

456
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's on team rain hat on a rainy day?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, team rain hat. Nice rain hat. Hey. Yeah, you know,

459
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: we gotta start a revolution in this country, you know,

460
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: I know we have other pressing issues, but like rain hats,

461
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: why are they called rain hat? Like rain rain hat

462
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Speaker 1: should be a phrase that doesn't sound so weird in

463
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: my mouth, you know.

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00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right about that. It's also the term that

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Speaker 3: I'm made up question mark. Yeah, Like I don't know,

466
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: it's just there's rain boots, yeah exactly, but uh yeah,

467
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: it does sound weird. You're not wrong about that rain gloves.

468
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Speaker 1: I guess we don't have those my rain socks. Uh,

469
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Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and

470
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: talk some news. We'll be right back. And we're back,

471
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Speaker 1: and we did just continue the rain hats conversation. Miles.

472
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Speaker 1: You're claiming so first of all, you told me GORP core,

473
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Speaker 1: which is not the world according.

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Speaker 2: To No, no, no no, it's like like trails. Okay,

475
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: you know GORP for all the people. You know, your

476
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Speaker 2: crunchy hiker style. But basically how that you know, the

477
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Speaker 2: like sort of more utilitarian functional fabrics and garments are

478
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: starting to make their way into like high fashion. Like

479
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: that's why you see people wearing more again, like cargo pants,

480
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Speaker 2: you know.

481
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Speaker 1: And you're buying more. You're so you are wearing cargo

482
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Speaker 1: pants these dolls?

483
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Speaker 2: I mean yes, usually I have a pair right now

484
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: I have to take back because they don't fit.

485
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Speaker 1: Here's a pair I got.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they're white because I wanted to feel like I'm

487
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Speaker 2: in Miami, you know what I mean.

488
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, formal, fancy white cargo pants. But they're just you

489
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Speaker 1: never know, you never know.

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Speaker 3: Those are fresh, those are fresh.

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Speaker 1: And I wear a little crop top and let my

492
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Speaker 1: underwear band show out the top.

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Speaker 2: It's ninety eight baby, where my Tommy figures, let's get

494
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 2: that Backstreet boys running?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, looking like a Leah you know. Yeah, I tried to.

496
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Speaker 1: I tried on a pair of cargo pants that I

497
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Speaker 1: thought looked cool, took a picture, said it to my wife,

498
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Speaker 1: was like, are cargo pants like coming back? She was like,

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Speaker 1: just a one word, no, period, that's the wrong question.

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Speaker 3: You're at you think it wrong, it's back if it's

501
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Speaker 3: if you if you're doing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was our cargo pants coming back into our

503
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Speaker 1: life as a couple.

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Speaker 2: And She's like, I spent many years trying to get

505
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Speaker 2: you to stop wearing them, but.

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Speaker 1: You can fit three natty lights in each part, all right.

507
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Neely was murdered. So that's the first line everybody

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00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: that yes, he was an unhoused man who was bothering

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Speaker 1: people in the subway and a former marine came up

510
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: and choked him to death, and so that that marine

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Speaker 1: is was was finally arrested after a long period of

512
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: the police not doing anything and giving him the benefit

513
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: of the doubt and a lot of people behind the

514
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: scenes being like they're treating him like he's a cop,

515
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: like he's also a copy. They finally arrested him, and

516
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: that has turned this guy into like the new Kyle Rittenhouse.

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Speaker 2: It seems sadly because of Jordan Neely's race and you

518
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: know where he was in our social class system, he

519
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: was expendable and basically his entire life was reduced to

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00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: the description now that we see a lot of like

521
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: hostile homeless man or aggressive unhit whatever they're trying to

522
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Speaker 2: do to make him seem other than who he was.

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00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: They're not saying he's a quote human being that has

524
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: been failed by this country like millions of others. He's

525
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 2: not a quote charismatic performer who brought smiles to people's faces. No,

526
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: his existence basically served as a reminder to those more

527
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: fortunate around him that the world they lived in was

528
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: hostile and violent and they really wanted nothing to do

529
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: with that uncomfortable truth, and that discomfort around knowing that

530
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: we are failing and we can do so much better

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Speaker 2: was justification for his death. And nothing changes in this

532
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: country really, just the way we talk about the problems

533
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: change at best, and the discourse isn't about how we've

534
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: failed to address inequality or how you know the all

535
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: this like social safety nets are in like social programs

536
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: in New York and housing programs have been just obliterated

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Speaker 2: by the mayor. No, it's about the murder service as

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00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: a marine or Neely's rap sheet and how like are

539
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: just completely slandering him and making things up, like about

540
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: like kidnapping someone, which there's no evidence to support these claims,

541
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: but they're they're flaring up all on the right side

542
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: of things, the standard bullshit.

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Speaker 1: Any time any black man has murdered, the media, especially

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Speaker 1: on the right, goes into overdrive too. Yeah, or or

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Speaker 1: even find the pictures that show him the version that

546
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Speaker 1: they want that their their viewers want to see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or in the center left, I mean's just the

548
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: status quo. Like yeah, I mean he was you know,

549
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: he was homeless and he was weird, so right, you

550
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Speaker 2: know what, Like that's kind of like it's like shrugging

551
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: the equivalent of shrugging. But yeah, like you said, he's

552
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Speaker 2: now been charged with secondary manslaughter and he's a fucking here.

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Speaker 1: His lawyers set up a fucking crowdfunding campaign. They've already

554
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: raised two million dollars for this fucking guy, and donations

555
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: are coming in from people like kid Rock, like Timpoole

556
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: and gop President so hopeful vivid Ramaswami like they're given

557
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of dollars. They're calling this man a hero,

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00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: and some people are calling him the Subway Good Samaritan

559
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: because he I'm sorry, I don't I don't need to

560
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: get biblic all up in here. But did these fucking

561
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Speaker 1: troglodytes even know what the fucking parable is about? Because

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Speaker 1: let me just I'll run it down because I was

563
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Speaker 1: inundated with this kind of shit when I went to school,

564
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Speaker 1: even though I'm not a religious person. A Jewish man

565
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Speaker 1: gets beat up and robbed and left for dead on

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Speaker 1: the side of the road. His own people walk by

567
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Speaker 1: him and could give a fuck about his condition because

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Speaker 1: they are like grossed out. He looks like dirty and

569
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Speaker 1: hurt and they're like, oh, I don't want to think

570
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: about that. Like that's the thing. Like stories like this

571
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: get like broken down, the like three beat cartoons where

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00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: you're just like and then the evil people walked by

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Speaker 1: and it's like, no, this is the sort of shit

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Speaker 1: that you do every day, that we do every day day.

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00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: In this country, and like you would ignore it because

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00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: it reveals something uncomfortable about your world, and like the

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00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: shit that we swallow on a daily basis just to

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Speaker 1: get from one minute to the next. Right, and then

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Speaker 1: the Samaritan who comes by, Just for context, the Jews

580
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: and Samaritans had fucking beef during this period, okay.

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00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: And Samaritans are the more oppressed group actually, So this

582
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: Samaritan stopped by and helps someone that was not only

583
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: in like a higher class so to speak, but also

584
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: his enemy culturally, right, and help them. So the only

585
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Speaker 2: way Neely's killer is a good Samaritan Samaritan is if

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Speaker 2: the parable was about the Samaritan killing this dude on

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Speaker 2: the side of the road because he was getting weirded

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Speaker 2: out by how fucked up and desperate he was, and

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Speaker 2: he killed him so other people wouldn't have to deal

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Speaker 2: with it.

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00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not what it's about. I have to

592
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Speaker 1: deal with the discomfort of him asking them for help, right,

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00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: because that's his crime. Right. He was saying, I need

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00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 1: I need food, I need shelters. I have no options.

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00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: I don't care if I die. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: I go to jail for life, arm to die that

597
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: was like one of the things he said, and he

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Speaker 1: and the violence that he committed was what taking his

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Speaker 1: jacket off.

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Speaker 2: And throwing it on the ground. Yeah, and so who

601
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: who is this? Who is who are we helping here?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like because if it were true to the like idea

604
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: or the spirit of this parable, maybe this person would

605
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: have saw Jordan and Neelay said Hey, it sounds like

606
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: you need some help. Can I help you? Like, do

607
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: you need some food? Can I is there a way

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00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: for me to do that? That's that would actually be

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00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: more you know, in line with the Bible. But again,

610
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: the right has done a fantastic job of like sanctifying

611
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Speaker 2: white supremacy and the status quo, like using bullshit terms

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Speaker 2: and like evoking the Bible like this.

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Speaker 1: So and sadly, in this weird retelling of it, I

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00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: guess the person that needed help was just the status quo.

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Speaker 1: You know, Neely wasn't armed, Like yeah, I don't, I

616
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: don't know who the so the victim was the ground,

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00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: I don't know who he's who is committing violence against?

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00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: But again, jacket and they don't like when you commit

619
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Speaker 1: property crimes.

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00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so I guess in this case, the

621
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: status quo is to just ignore or treat the needy,

622
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: or treating the needy with suspicion.

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Speaker 1: And so he did just that and now he's a hero.

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00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: And just for just to kind of juxtapose these two things,

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00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: there is a crowdfunding there's a GoFundMe fundraising campaign for

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Speaker 1: Jordan Neely's family. It has less than one hundred and

627
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars. And the other guy, the one for

628
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: the bucking guy who murdered him, has two million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Two million, yeah, two million, And I mean it just

630
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: shows you like where again, like when these campaigns kick off,

631
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: like where the empathy is going clearly because again for

632
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: the right, this is like the new Kyle Rittenhouse, because

633
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: we're with Kyle Rittenhouse gave everybody the sort of ability

634
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: to be like, well, they shouldn't be protesting out there,

635
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, yeah, against like you know, against the police,

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00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: violence or whatever.

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00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: That's what you get. Now it's sort of like, well

638
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be homeless in public, yeah, and freaking people

639
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: out because that's where you could end up.

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00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like empathy for rage is a real blight.

641
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: The concept of like they're they're feeling empathetic towards a person,

642
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: this hero, because it's a placeholder for everything that the

643
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: right wants to point out. This is what you're angry about.

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00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 3: This is what do you have these you know, preconditions

645
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: or thoughts that are, like you think this about the universe?

646
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 3: Isn't that doesn't that make you angry that this person

647
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: or this person gets this or this or this or

648
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 3: acts this way and can get away with it or whatever.

649
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 3: And they like use that as a way to rage

650
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 3: bait everyone into feeling empathy. It's like, what what a hack?

651
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: Like what a I can't believe that humans fall for

652
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: this shit and it really sours you on any hope

653
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: that empathy will like take over. But ultimately it's just

654
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: this narrative building that like they're just playing, they're just

655
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: playing the numbers and just trying to get what they

656
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 3: want because they know there's an audience for it. You

657
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,479
Speaker 3: can tell that that's true just because like these people

658
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: are called hero before you know, or they're they're called

659
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: a victim, or they're called you know, like a monster

660
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: before they're any number of these people you know what,

661
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: on either side, they're called these things because before there's

662
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: even a check on who this person was. Why, because

663
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: if it's a narrative for you know, the right to

664
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: say this is what happened, this is this is a

665
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: way and to get get my people to get angry.

666
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: And that's just I don't know, I just don't know

667
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 3: how that's any way too. There's a lot of pain here.

668
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: There's just too much pain.

669
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and it just sort of furthers how quickly

670
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: things can escalate to violence right where it's just like

671
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: the shorthand for this is like you know in Kyle

672
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: Rittenhouse case, like yeah, I don't know, you want to

673
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: you want to step up and speak out against something

674
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: like you're gonna get hurt? Yeah, Like it just is

675
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: like that's how those people think.

676
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 2: Well that what did you expect being out there against

677
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: They're gonna shoot you in the eye and that's why

678
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: are you out there? Or in this case, well, you

679
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: know what happens, you're acting weird in public because you

680
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: have no other recourse except to disintegrate in public because

681
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: you have no place to give no help.

682
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: Oh that yeah, that's what happens. Yeah, I mean, as

683
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: we have to like swallow more and more like just

684
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: gruesome trade offs as part of our reality, like of

685
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: the consequences of the current paradigm of like you know,

686
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: late stage capitalism become like more and more obvious. Like

687
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: people like I think the empathy for impotent rage, Like

688
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: everybody is feeling impotent rage. It's just whether they know

689
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: what they should be angry at and about. And so

690
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: it makes sense to me that the target of the

691
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: rage for a lot of people is going to be

692
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: people who, either by existing or by protesting by saying things,

693
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: call out the things that you are having to ignore

694
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: and like just filter away through dissonance and transference and

695
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: like other like just mental calorie burning, like ignorance. That

696
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: like the people who are reminders of that process that's

697
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: happening in almost everyone in the Western world, those people

698
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: will be targets because yeah, that everyone's feeling like a

699
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: simmering impotent rage, and there's you know, rather than realizing

700
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: and like doing something that could harm their day to

701
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: day lives, they would rather just kind of be part

702
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: of the Yeah.

703
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: Please just get rid of any reminder of it. Yeah,

704
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear about racism, So don't fucking

705
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: teach my kids about it. Because I don't want to

706
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: hear it about it about it anymore. And the same

707
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 2: thing with people who are so uncomfortable by the unhoused,

708
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: and it's happened so much in LA especially the way

709
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: people talk is so fucking disturbing of just like, I mean,

710
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: I don't know why they have to be here, yes,

711
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: like why do they have to be there?

712
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: What? I don't even know? What? What?

713
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: Give me some context? What do you think is happening

714
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: with this person that they like that again, that their

715
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: mere existence is so uncomfortable for you that the solution

716
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: is I don't please just round them up, sweep them away.

717
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: I cannot be reminded of this. And it's just really Yeah,

718
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: it's disheartening because yeah, some people, when that four comes

719
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: in the road, they know, you know what, I can

720
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: only imagine what it takes to end up like that.

721
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: A few few things go wrong in your life, and

722
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: very quickly you could end up on the streets.

723
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: I know.

724
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: Like, if that's real to you, then you might have

725
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: more empathy because you can understand how someone like that exists.

726
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: But if you are completely removed for that or don't

727
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: want to even you know, it's because it's probably frightening

728
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: to someone to be like, holy shit, I could find

729
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: a few wrong things, a few things go wrong in

730
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: my life, and I could end up on the street.

731
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 3: That's fucking terrifying.

732
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: You know what.

733
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to think about that. Get this motherfucker

734
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: who's the reminder of that grim reality out of my face?

735
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

736
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, because people don't see people as people, but rather

737
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: as landscapes, part of the setting a prop. You know,

738
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 3: it's like the second you start doing that and you're

739
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: saying like, oh, I only feel the effects of you

740
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 3: as a person. I don't actually see you as a person.

741
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: It's so easy to go down like a I assume

742
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: it's so easy to go down this like rabbit hole

743
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: of you know, I don't. I don't believe that anyone

744
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: other than me and the people who look like me

745
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: are justifiable in any of our actions. These people need

746
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: to be gone or whatever. I just don't see how

747
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: that logic computes.

748
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's take a quick break and we're gonna

749
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: come back and talk about a product that's gonna help

750
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: us put the blinders on literally, folks. It's coming from Apple,

751
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: and it's got that will It will block unhoused people

752
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: from your actual view as you're walking through the city.

753
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: That could be the killer app they're looking for. Well

754
00:39:53,520 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: be and we're back. And so Apple's expected to release

755
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: some goggles that are called Reality pro oh it toror

756
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: give me that fucking feeding tube of black mirror actually happening.

757
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: Right, humans centipede me up.

758
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 1: So these are goggles that are going to everyone's raving

759
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: about how they far exceed everyone else's VR device and

760
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: they have an augmented reality feature. That is the thing

761
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: that kind of caught my attention because some people are

762
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: speculating that they will actually like this product will eventually

763
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: replace our iPhones because it just puts all of the

764
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: information that you typically use your iPhone for, puts it

765
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: right in front of your eyes basically like gives you

766
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: augmented reality terminator vision, And like how does it do

767
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: that by like adding things to like glasses? No, it

768
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: actually like the goggles are opaque like VR headset, but

769
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: they have cameras. So oh it's like, have you ever

770
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: been in like a car with one of those rear

771
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: view mirror cameras? Like the rear mirror is replaced by

772
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: like a little the rear view mirrors. It's like a screen.

773
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: You mean the rear view mirror is I've seen that,

774
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: but i'ven't actually driven one, but you know it's talking

775
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: about Yeah, yeah, like that's it feels like it's that.

776
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: But for all reality, you just have into a screen.

777
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I want them also to like cover your

778
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 3: ears and then have speakers in them, you know, yeah

779
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: gloves gloves that like are haptic feedback. So let's just

780
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 3: like eliminate all the senses and replace it with like

781
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 3: a surrogate.

782
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: Right, and I'm all about yeah, and then like put

783
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: the different So like people are saying, like the problem

784
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: with this being revolutionary is like one, it costs three

785
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, which is well above the price point of

786
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: everything else. But I guess that hasn't focked Apple in

787
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: the past. I love a consumer purchase that makes you

788
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: the easiest target for robbery. I know, I will take

789
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That is like always that

790
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: three K heads I'm like a three K headset watch.

791
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: I'll sneak up behind you and just.

792
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 3: That you don't even need to sneak why punch him

793
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: in the stomach and.

794
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: Or there's a delay even if you're coming from the

795
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: front the delay by half a second.

796
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: Ship. But it's so like the thing with VR. The

797
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: people are like it just they haven't created their killer

798
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 1: app yet, Like there's just it's just for gamers. It's

799
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: like a fun thing to play video games with. But

800
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: like in terms of wider adoption, it just hasn't like

801
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: broken through, right, And I don't expect Apple to be

802
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: the place that like figures that out right. But the

803
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: augmented reality, like like one of one of the images

804
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: from the Daily Mail article about this is like, you know,

805
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: showing how walking directions could be displayed on a screen

806
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: in front of you.

807
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh like Google maps kind of like yeah, in

808
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: a few in a few meters, you're going to turn

809
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: it right here at this hour, right kind of thing.

810
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: And with like facial recognition technology, Like I could see

811
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: a world where like now you have the database of

812
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: everyone you've ever met, and like can have context for

813
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: that displayed on a heads up display in front of you.

814
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: Like I think there is something like the future is

815
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 1: going to involve somebody somehow inventing new senses for people

816
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: that like we can add to our existing senses and

817
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: like new inputs for like all all the amazing like

818
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: capabilities you can have via technology, But I just I

819
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe this is it. You definitely look stupid

820
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: wearing them and look like the biggest target on the

821
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: planet for robbery or whatever. Like you're just walking around

822
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: with a blank thing on your head, like right, with

823
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: no peripheral vision, right although like that, like maybe it

824
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: gives you eyes and back your head, like maybe it

825
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: gives you extra good peripheral vision, like what yeah, I

826
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: mean to your point, like it's not offering anything anyone

827
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: fucking needs right now. Oh, if you have an Apple Watch,

828
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: it'll that shit'll start. But if you need to like

829
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: walk somewhere, like hey, turn right here, right here, right here,

830
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: right here, right here, right right here, right here, I

831
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: don't need to like see like the a dotted line

832
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: to like where I'm going down the street to be

833
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: able to make sense of that, like I have the

834
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: ability to do that, or I don't need to know

835
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: what time it is the upper right hand corner of

836
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: my vision. But I think the.

837
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: Only way I think this, like to your point, where

838
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: it has all this interesting data that maybe is useful

839
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: to someone in the future, where it can like you know,

840
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: aggregate all this stuff together in your field of vision,

841
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: Like that's probably more useful when it's something like a

842
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 2: contact lens you put in over your eye than full

843
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: on like put this mask on where I'm like sort

844
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: of like losing all sense of direction or maybe not,

845
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

846
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: That's why you have the headset because it gives me

847
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: With the iPhone, with iPad or iPod, it was like

848
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: very obvious, like what like the thing they were creating

849
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: was just a much better version of something that was

850
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: like having all the Internet in your pocket was an

851
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: amazing innovation, Like we didn't have to think up why

852
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: that would be amazing for them, whereas this is like

853
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: it just feels like you're heavy to do too much

854
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: work for them to like come up with. Like I

855
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: don't think of Apple as the place that's going to

856
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: maybe like after you know, decades of development, then like

857
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: things will start to become evident where where this will

858
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: be useful.

859
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: But my favorite thing about augmented reality is that, especially

860
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: if it's in the hands of corporations like you know, Apple,

861
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 3: it's so easy to like there's they're doing so much

862
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 3: work on like you know, facial recognition and all this stuff.

863
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: That's like a lot harder to kind of program, but

864
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Speaker 3: it's so easy to just like see, oh there's an

865
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Speaker 3: empty space of wall there. You know what that wall needs?

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Speaker 3: Just ad for Apple products, babe. Yeah, just the world

867
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Speaker 3: of ads is what we're going to be stepping into, right,

868
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Speaker 3: because that's like they're gonna because it's a corporate thinking, right,

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Speaker 3: how are they going to make their money back? If

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Speaker 3: they're selling it at two thousand and three thousand dollars,

871
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Speaker 3: they got to make their money back somehow, And that's

872
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Speaker 3: going to create the true dystopian nightmare.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, it'll be like just overlay it on like

874
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Speaker 2: objects too that it doesn't think you're interacting with. Like

875
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: I got hit by a I feel the latest Marvel

876
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: film and a poster, but driving the goggles completely obscured it.

877
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Speaker 1: Because they just layered an AD over that moving vehicle.

878
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Speaker 3: Help, I can't see my wife.

879
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Speaker 1: Have you thought about taking the goggles off? No?

880
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Speaker 3: No, they say, on exactly.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Richard Dreyfus. Hey, I don't

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Speaker 1: know you.

883
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Speaker 3: Is this your king Jack?

884
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Speaker 1: This is a This is a segment of the show

885
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Speaker 1: Dreyfus talk that we have Monday. As we just check

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Speaker 1: in with.

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Speaker 3: What's the Fuss With Dreyfus.

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Speaker 2: We covered his last talk with Bill Maher was really

889
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: great in the last installment of this that really riven

890
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: in conversation. But this time he's made his way over

891
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: to the firing line, uh to talk about just all

892
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: this dang inclusion going on Hollywood, and he's asked a

893
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Speaker 2: question old Dicky dry Dry saying, hey, you you know,

894
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Speaker 2: have have diversity measures gone too far? You know, like

895
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Speaker 2: they're talking about and the host brings up like the

896
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Speaker 2: Academy they're changing its rules for twenty twenty five awards

897
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: that are you know, again meant to encourage more diversity inclusion.

898
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Speaker 1: If you were trying to get a Best Picture filmed,

899
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Speaker 1: then like maybe let's do more.

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Speaker 2: Than like what we're doing, so having like at least

901
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: one lead character in the movie from an underrepresented racial

902
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Speaker 2: or ethnic group, or have thirty percent of the general

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Speaker 2: ensemble cast be from at least two unrepresented groups, or

904
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Speaker 2: how the film spokes be about a group, or like

905
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Speaker 2: even with the crew, like the people that you hire,

906
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Speaker 2: you know, like you can still have a very maybe

907
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Speaker 2: white movie, but maybe have more women and you know,

908
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Speaker 2: people of color, LGBTQ whatever, people working on the set,

909
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Speaker 2: So then that's your way in. So Richard Dreyfus has

910
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Speaker 2: a very interesting take on it, and we'll we'll just

911
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Speaker 2: let him speak for himself. He's asked very like you know,

912
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Speaker 2: the host you know, talks about these new efforts academies

913
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Speaker 2: making and just Richard, what's what's your take on this?

914
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Speaker 1: Let's hear from Richard himself.

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Speaker 4: They make me vomit.

916
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Speaker 2: Oh, let me let me just let me just actually

917
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Speaker 2: give you the full context from underrepresented racial and ethnic groups.

918
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Speaker 2: What do you think of these new inclusion standards for films?

919
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Speaker 4: They make me vomito? Well, this is an art form.

920
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 4: It's also a form of commerce and it makes money.

921
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Speaker 4: But it's an art and no one should be telling me,

922
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Speaker 4: as an artist that I have to give in to

923
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 4: the latest most current idea of what morality is.

924
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Speaker 3: Hmm Okay, see here's the thing you guys are missing.

925
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Speaker 1: Though.

926
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Speaker 3: We solved racism in nineteen ninety eight with Krippendors.

927
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Speaker 2: Try Yes, Goga bundo I believe was the tagline he

928
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: said when he was a to have sex with Jenna Elfman.

929
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Speaker 1: There you go, Yeah, I remember the film.

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Speaker 3: Well, no more introspection needed.

931
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why I know that film so well.

932
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Speaker 2: It's I think because it was so fucked up, like

933
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Speaker 2: when I was like, oh this could be a film

934
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Speaker 2: like this is so this is so backwards and fucked up,

935
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Speaker 2: like holy shit.

936
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Speaker 1: But yeah, also commerce.

937
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Speaker 2: But let's let's allow him to go on, because he

938
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Speaker 2: he does raise some interestingnother by the way.

939
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Speaker 1: I do. I do love just his reduction of diversity

940
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Speaker 1: and truth and storytelling through like actually giving alternate points

941
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Speaker 1: of view, involvement in the industry as being like he

942
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 1: dismisses it as like the latest fed in morality, like right, right, right, real.

943
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: This is where this is where he really brings it home.

944
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Speaker 1: And I think this is where I have to agree

945
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Speaker 1: with him, like for all the nonsense racist talk of earlier,

946
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Speaker 1: just you.

947
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 2: Know, I'm just leave me alone. I'm a boomer actor.

948
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Speaker 2: I think I think he really makes a really good

949
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 2: case this.

950
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Speaker 1: Next talking point, and by he digs even fucking deeper.

951
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 3: Let's go deep.

952
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 4: And I'm sorry, I don't think that there's a minority

953
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Speaker 4: or a majority in the country that has to be

954
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 4: catered to like that. You know, Laurence Olivier was the

955
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Speaker 4: last white actor to play.

956
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Speaker 1: Othello in blackface, and.

957
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Speaker 4: He did it in nineteen sixty.

958
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Speaker 1: Five in blackface.

959
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 4: And he did it in blackface. Oh and he played

960
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 4: a black man brilliantly. Am I being told that I

961
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 4: will never have a chance to play a black man

962
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 4: with someone else being told that if they're not Jewish

963
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 4: they shouldn't play the Merchant of Venice? Are we crazy?

964
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 3: Are we crazy? Entitled already?

965
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: It's just like his perspective is you're telling me I

966
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: can't put on black face if I want to. Oh no, no, no, art.

967
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Speaker 1: I went to a costume party with a guy in

968
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Speaker 1: the eighties and he went as Michael Jackson and it

969
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: brought the house down, And you're telling me that that

970
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: wasn't funny. He also has his glasses like all the

971
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: way at the end of his nose, like it's so

972
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: precariously there. It's just it's an interesting vibe.

973
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: It's grandpa tone.

974
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah. He's also exactly like has there

975
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: ever been an actor who like portrays just like such

976
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: like he not not only does he seem uncool, but

977
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: he also seems like an asshole, and like, just like

978
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: this is exactly what I would spect from him, he's

979
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: he's it's like, what about Bob feels like a documentary?

980
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but it's like like look at like Spielberg

981
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: knew this immediately about the guy, like he cast him

982
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 3: in like Close Encounters. It's like I need a man child,

983
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 3: Like I need someone who would just get rid of

984
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 3: their family because they have an idea, you know, like

985
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: this is the kind of guy this kind of vibes

986
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: he sense, right.

987
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: But he had that song and his head so bad. So. Also,

988
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: our writer Jam pointed out that on Twitter he's been corrected.

989
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: Patrick Stewart actually played Othello in nineteen ninety seven in

990
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: a production in a production with reverse casting, where he

991
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: was the only white person in the cast and everyone

992
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: else was black.

993
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 2: Right, they could still maintain like the sort of the

994
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: overall tension of Othello of someone who is probably an

995
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: out group.

996
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: Maybe say something interesting without without black face, without black face. Yeah,

997
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: but are you me? It's just like the way he says,

998
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: you're like, shut up, Richard Dreyfus, You're gonna vomit. It

999
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: makes me want to vomit. Okay, I do think we

1000
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 1: need to add the it makes me want to vomit

1001
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: to like that just feels like it was he said

1002
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: that to make me vomit.

1003
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: It really does have like shock jock.

1004
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they make me vomit. Okay, they make me vomit.

1005
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: But so uh, great defender of the status quo. And obviously,

1006
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: I mean, why didn't he bring up Robert Downey juniors?

1007
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: I mean, wow, you're have you? Richard Dreyfuss really isn't

1008
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: even up on all the modern blackface. You know, Jimmy

1009
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: Kimmel is Karl Malone. That's right, you know, some of

1010
00:54:55,560 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: the greatest performances we've ever seen from idiots sh rocking recently.

1011
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you telling me that I would not be

1012
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: able to play Draymond Green if I wanted to in

1013
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: his biopic. No, I reject that notion. I'm an artist.

1014
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 3: I can kick with the best of them.

1015
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: Yes, this wokeness is a problem that you're going to

1016
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: ignore until it swims up and bites you on the asp.

1017
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 3: Or I die or I or I.

1018
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: Just die and go away.

1019
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:36,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, stop being so fussy, fussy old dick.

1020
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is dread well. Yeah, he doesn't seem like

1021
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: he's He seems dusty, and he's seen a lot of moisture.

1022
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: Like when he talks like it's like when you eat

1023
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: a bunch of saltines, like just a dust company because

1024
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 2: your mouth can't absorb.

1025
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 3: Part mummy.

1026
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's doing the gradual natural mummification process.

1027
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he shout out to art though also watching

1028
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: the I was looking at like Olivier as a fellow.

1029
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: My god, y'all, it ain't. Oh, it's not that you

1030
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: don't want to.

1031
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like mid, like so many people have done

1032
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 3: Othello really well it's pretty mid.

1033
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: Oh it's mid as fuck. And then you just can't

1034
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: get past the black face. It's like so bad. You're like,

1035
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what the fuck?

1036
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah that's.

1037
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: Me general, no matter that fucked so has set me

1038
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: on the rack. I'm sorry, looks like a fuck. How

1039
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: about this right here? Oh my god, fare well content.

1040
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: Oh it's straight up like the walls. It's like shoe grease.

1041
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: It's like black face. Oh yeah, it ain't. It ain't

1042
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: like here's a skin tone. Right.

1043
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: They're like, how about we how about we take a

1044
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: bunch of lead pencil shavings and use that as your foundation.

1045
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the ship from like al Jolson, Like

1046
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: it looks like that. Yeah, yeah, it's black face, darling,

1047
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: and I will have you no farewell troops, and the

1048
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: big walls that make.

1049
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: Yes amazing makes me vomit, Yeah, makes me vomit. The

1050
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: nets could go over eighty two. And I'm smiling at

1051
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: you like that shit's gravy because me and my nah

1052
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: nice fellows in Paris.

1053
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I couldn't go that far. I'm sir, Lawrence. Come on, well,

1054
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: a such a pleasure having you on the daily's like geist,

1055
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: where can people find you? Follow you, find out more

1056
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: about your movie all that good stuff.

1057
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you don't mind, I just want to talk about,

1058
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,439
Speaker 3: you know, the movie a little bit. Yeah, yeah, because

1059
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 3: that's like where people can find me and stuff. But yeah,

1060
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: like he said, my name is Abe Epperson. My writing

1061
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 3: partner is Michael Swain, who I believe is on tomorrow

1062
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 3: and we're making an independent film. And it's based on

1063
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 3: the time that Michael's father came out as a gay

1064
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: furry while he was a teenager.

1065
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Speaker 1: And for Michael was a teenager.

1066
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael, when Michael was a teenager. Semi autobiographical. Yeah,

1067
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: And if you don't know, the term furry describes a

1068
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Speaker 3: community of fans like artists, gamers, et cetera. Of anthropomorphized animals.

1069
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Speaker 3: Often they create what's called a persona, which is an

1070
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 3: avatar or an identity that represents their true self. And

1071
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 3: it's a community that has been like bullied by the

1072
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 3: online zeitgeist more or less portrayals and media and such,

1073
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 3: and we thought humans could be better, So we decided

1074
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Speaker 3: to write a coming of age comedy drama that deals

1075
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 3: with like family, subculture, sexuality. And if you've heard of

1076
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Speaker 3: our stuff, Cracked or small beans are way back in

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Speaker 3: the day at those aren't muskets. We've been working with

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Speaker 3: each other for like, you know, fifteen years at this point,

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Speaker 3: and you be interested in the fact that we're producing

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Speaker 3: this as a feature independently and you can help. So

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Speaker 3: if you go to Seedenspark dot com, slash fund, slash

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Speaker 3: Papa hythen bear hopefully that will be in the show notes.

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Speaker 3: You can become a part of the movie, get stuff

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Speaker 3: from the movie, watch the movie early, go to a premiere.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, visit the page and help us out. We

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Speaker 3: really are trying it. We're trying to make a movie,

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Speaker 3: and I hope you agree that this is like a

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Speaker 3: story worth telling. That's kind of it. That's my plug

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Speaker 3: for Papa Bear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so excited for it. Everybody should go check

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Speaker 1: out the page. Do you guys like link off to

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Speaker 1: any of the old stuff that you directed at crack, Like,

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Speaker 1: there's so much good shit.

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Speaker 3: That it's tough to pick them. The like we do

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Speaker 3: have kind of landing YouTube video when you go to

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Speaker 3: that link where it's kind of has some clips show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Other than that, Yeah, there's so much stuff. We made

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Speaker 3: like five hundred sketches and I wasn't even the only

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Speaker 3: one directly correct, you know.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy how much we put out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. Well go check it out. We'll link off

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Speaker 1: to it in the footnotes. Abe, is there a work

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Speaker 1: of media that you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 3: A work of media?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Can be a sweet Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's there's a video I saw it on

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Speaker 3: Twitter account called note context Humans, which is just like

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Speaker 3: an aggregator of random images and videos from the internet.

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Speaker 3: And so it's just this like minute long video. This

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Speaker 3: guy has like a mini like I guess, like a

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Speaker 3: foot long wheel of fortune wheel with like a dollar

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Speaker 3: amounts on it, you know, and he approaches a woman

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Speaker 3: and He's like, do you want twenty dollars or do

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Speaker 3: you want a chance to win a thousand dollars by

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Speaker 3: spinning this wheel? She's like spin the wheel and does,

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Speaker 3: and then the rest of the minute long video is

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Speaker 3: just the wheel spinning, and then it spins, and it spins,

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Speaker 3: and then it starts to slow down, and then it

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Speaker 3: starts to speed up, and then it picks up so

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Speaker 3: much momentum that you think the thing is going to break.

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Speaker 5: And she's just sitting there looking at it while he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's still going. It's one of the dumbest, like most

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Speaker 5: simple minded, mischievous things to do, like and it's like

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Speaker 5: kind of like a parody of like those prank videos.

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Speaker 3: What a waste of everyone's time. Yeah, so I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I could, I could send you the link to the video,

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Speaker 3: but honestly, it's just enjoyable to know that there's people

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Speaker 3: out there doing nonsense like that.

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Speaker 1: Complete dum nose.

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Speaker 3: That's probably last time I left. It's like, really really hard.

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Speaker 3: That's something that the Internet dropped at my doorstep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Miles, where can people find you? Is there a

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Speaker 1: work media you've been enjoying? Uh? Find me on at

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Speaker 1: symbol based websites at Miles of Gray Chances. I'm there,

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Speaker 1: I somewhat posting every now and then.

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Speaker 2: You can also find me and Jack on our basketball

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Speaker 2: podcast Miles and Jack Got Mad mat Booties and what else.

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Speaker 1: For twenty Day Fiance was Sophia Alexandro. We talk about

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Speaker 1: reality shit, you know, just getting in there. Some tweet

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Speaker 1: I don't really know. There's one tweet I liked just

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Speaker 1: because it was raising an interesting point as somebody who

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Speaker 1: was just in a hotel recently and they're like, and

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Speaker 1: if you'd like, you know, housekeeping, it could be deferred.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: This is a tweet from at Blue Steel, DC tweeted

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Speaker 2: sharing an important message from the hotel workers unions. Don't

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Speaker 2: defer daily cleaning when staying in a hotel basically because

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Speaker 2: it has a terrible impact on the people that actually

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Speaker 2: do the jobs, because that allows them to cut back

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Speaker 2: and they do this thing of like, you know, for

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Speaker 2: COVID reasons, but really it could you know, has the

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Speaker 2: impact of like reducing the workforce by like thirty nine

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Speaker 2: percent in some instances.

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Speaker 1: And when you don't, when you have like deferred housekeeping,

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Speaker 1: the people who have to clean up the rooms. Typically

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Speaker 1: walk into rooms that are way more fucked up if

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Speaker 1: they had been like lightly taking care of like every day,

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Speaker 1: but they still have the same amount of time to

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Speaker 1: turn over a room, which makes their jobs much harder.

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Speaker 1: So just something to note as we, you know, we

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Speaker 1: enter this new era of like things that are changing

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Speaker 1: since the pandemic began. But yeah, don't doway with those

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Speaker 1: differen things, please, yeh yeah, all right, tweet I've been enjoying.

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Speaker 1: So Noah Garfunkel responded, so Bryan Stelter reported from CNN

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Speaker 1: after the Trump thing, quote from I guess it's the

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Speaker 1: new head of CNN. You do not have to like

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Speaker 1: the former president's answers, but you can't say that we

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Speaker 1: didn't get them. Caitlin pressed him again and again and

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Speaker 1: made news, made a lot of news, and that is

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Speaker 1: our job. And no Garfunkle quoted that and said, doctor,

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Speaker 1: I made a lot of cancer. That is my job.

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Speaker 1: And then PJ Adans continued his string of great tweets

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Speaker 1: about Walgreens and CVS said at Walgreens, I'm getting major

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Speaker 1: CVS vibes from this place. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page and a website Daily

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Speaker 1: zekeist dot com where we post our episodes and our

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Speaker 1: foot notes. No link off to the information that we

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Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode. What was a song that

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Speaker 1: we think you might enjoy? Miles, what's the song that

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Speaker 1: we think people might enjoy? The weather has been heating

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Speaker 1: up in La thank God. Although I do try to

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Speaker 1: wear my rain hat in the eighty five degree heat.

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Speaker 1: It's not a great combination.

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Speaker 2: But in the heat, like the inside of that hat, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: it's like more of like a sauna on the inside

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Speaker 2: of that coff And my head looks like a like

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Speaker 2: a thumb that's been in like a bathtub for too long.

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Speaker 1: It looks like Shane Battier's the top of head for

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Speaker 1: those that can understand that reference. But yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: a track by this artist Month's Anita, who is like

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Speaker 1: a Peruvian Cumbia artist from like the sixties and like

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Speaker 1: kind of the psychedelic wave of Cumbia that was happening

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Speaker 1: in Peru. And this is a very dope track. It's

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Speaker 1: called Andino A N D I N O and the

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Speaker 1: full artist name is Manzanita Isunto and it's just just great.

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Speaker 1: It's like great music when you're outside because it makes

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Speaker 1: you want to like have your shoulders just kind of

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Speaker 1: bouncing as you walk around. I don't know how to

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Speaker 1: describe it, but it's just great atmospheric music for when

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Speaker 1: the weather's form, and Cumbia in general is fantastic. So

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Speaker 1: check this out. This is Manzanita with Andino. All right, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll link off of that in the footnotes. The Daily

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Speaker 1: Zeik is the production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from

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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for us this morning, back this afternoon to tell

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Speaker 1: you what is trending, and we'll talk to you all

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Speaker 1: then