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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: The presidents fans strongly behind Secretary Hegseth, who is doing

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Speaker 3: a phenomenal job leading the Pentagon.

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Speaker 4: And this is what happens.

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Speaker 3: When the entire Pentagon is working against you and working

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Speaker 3: against the monumental change that you are trying to implement.

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Speaker 3: Secretary Hegswift. Hegseth was nominated for this position because he

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Speaker 3: is standing up for the war fighter, the men and

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Speaker 3: women in uniform who are putting their lives on the

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Speaker 3: line to protect our country and our homeland.

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Speaker 5: And unfortunately, there.

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Speaker 3: Have been people at that building who don't like the

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Speaker 3: change the Secretary is trying to bring, so they are

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Speaker 3: leaking and they are lying to the mainstream media. We've

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Speaker 3: seen this game played before, the Secretary making a tremendous.

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Speaker 6: Drink.

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Speaker 7: No thank you if you don't drink, of course, moke bought.

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Speaker 7: And you're married and super Christian. We're going to go

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Speaker 7: on great.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is this going to just be perfect?

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Speaker 8: You know, one would expect that once the deregulation really

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Speaker 8: takes takes place and is sustained and the tax cuts

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Speaker 8: are extended, that.

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Speaker 9: Would be a positive for the economy.

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Speaker 4: But it sounds to me that you're not expecting.

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Speaker 5: A reception this year, you know, I really am not.

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Speaker 10: The first quarter is looking like it's going to be

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Speaker 10: way better that people thought at the beginning of the quarter,

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Speaker 10: way better than we expected because of what we inherited

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Speaker 10: from Joe Biden. And it's because President Trump's policies are

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Speaker 10: working pastors that expected.

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Speaker 11: And the way to think about it really is that

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Speaker 11: what's going on is.

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Speaker 10: We need to onshore activity create jobs in the US.

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Speaker 10: And it used to be that that was like a

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Speaker 10: really really slow moving thing. But now with AI and

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Speaker 10: supply chains that everything, it's a much.

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Speaker 12: Less slow moving thing.

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Speaker 11: If America was eighty one percent Christian or eighty one

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Speaker 11: percent Islamic, which what's a better country?

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Speaker 6: Yes, according to the ideals I believe in. If you

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Speaker 6: think faith I know you do is the most important thing.

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Speaker 6: You might think Islam. But I happy to think freedom

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Speaker 6: is the most important thing. Personal liberty again, human rights,

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Speaker 6: rule of law, scientific inquiry, democracy, freedom of speech, all

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Speaker 6: these things which are absent much more in those societies

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Speaker 6: than the society I live.

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Speaker 8: A new demands from Democrats for Elon Musk to step

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Speaker 8: down from his role in the federal government after a

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Speaker 8: group of seventy seven lawmakers sent a letter to the

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Speaker 8: Trump administration emphasizing the tech billionaire can only serve in

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Speaker 8: his role.

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Speaker 4: As a special government employee.

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Speaker 8: Until the end of May. Democrats say Musk's work heading

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Speaker 8: DOGE has done enormous harm of working Americans while continuing

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Speaker 8: to enrich himself and violate ethics laws.

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Speaker 13: President has spent eighty seven days at the highest level

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Speaker 13: of its government repeatedly taking efforts to bring this war

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Speaker 13: to an end. We are now reaching a point where

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Speaker 13: we need to decide and determine whether this is even

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Speaker 13: possible or not, which is why we're engaging both sides.

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Speaker 11: We need to figure out.

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Speaker 13: Here now within a matter of day, whether this is

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Speaker 13: doable in the short term, because if it's not, then

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Speaker 13: I think we're just going to move on from our perspective.

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Speaker 14: We have a couple of important issues to discuss today.

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Speaker 14: I want to update the Prime Minister on some of

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Speaker 14: the negotiations between Russia and you create and also some

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Speaker 14: of the things that have happened even in the past

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Speaker 14: twenty four hours, and thinking up some interesting things to

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Speaker 14: report on a course in private.

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Speaker 4: Some of the negotiations, I won't prejudge.

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Speaker 14: Them, but we do feel optimistic that we can hopefully

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Speaker 14: bring this war, this very real wars we've closed, Yeah,

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Speaker 14: very sure.

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Speaker 15: A specific number of days, but quickly if we want

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Speaker 15: to get it done.

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Speaker 11: We're talking about here dying and.

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Speaker 15: We're talking about over there people are dying also, like

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Speaker 15: on average two five hundred young people soldiers. And Marco

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Speaker 15: is right in saying, as we're getting we want.

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Speaker 11: To see it end.

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Speaker 16: I'm not sure why Abrago Garcia's rights should be denied

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Speaker 16: based on an awful murder that he had absolutely nothing

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Speaker 16: to do with.

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Speaker 17: Who did paper this trip?

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Speaker 9: This was an officially cleared, you know, congressional trip, clear basis, Yes,

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Speaker 9: like every other trip.

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Speaker 18: David Hogg, who I know, you know, a vice chair

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Speaker 18: of the Democrat National Committee. He's going to be joining

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Speaker 18: us on the roundtable, and he is pursuing this effort

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Speaker 18: to unseat some Democrats in safe seats through primary challenges.

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Speaker 19: If I look forward, there standing behind every single Democratic incumbent,

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Speaker 19: from the most progressive to the most centrist, in all

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Speaker 19: points in between.

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Speaker 17: Every day there is a battle for your mind, raging

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Speaker 17: information coming from every angle, but the will to the sieve,

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Speaker 17: fear not. You found a place for truth, the voice

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Speaker 17: of a generation that still has the will to believe

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Speaker 17: in the greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 17: This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot, here

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Speaker 17: we go a lot.

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Speaker 11: Okay, everybody, Radio stations across the country. Honored to be

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Speaker 11: with you as always were here live at the Bitcoin

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Speaker 11: dot Com studio, live in Phoenix, Arizona. Email us as

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Speaker 11: always freedom at Charliekirk dot Com. Of course, the breaking

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Speaker 11: news that happened over the evening, over the night, I

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Speaker 11: should say late last night and early morning in Rome,

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Speaker 11: the news was announced that Pope Francis has died. This

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Speaker 11: is monumental news. I was reflecting, I have only lived

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Speaker 11: through three popes.

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Speaker 1: I have lived for.

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Speaker 11: Thirty one years and I've only lived.

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Speaker 1: Through three popes.

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Speaker 11: We have, of course, I was born and John Paul

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Speaker 11: the second was Pope, and then Pope Benedict and now

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Speaker 11: Pope Francis. He was Pope for twelve years. He was

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Speaker 11: the first Pope from the Americas. He tended to be

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Speaker 11: a little bit questionable at times on some of his

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Speaker 11: let's just say social justice perspectives, but.

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Speaker 1: I'm not Catholic.

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Speaker 11: We do have Michael Knowles that's going to join us

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Speaker 11: in the program to discuss this and the significance of it.

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Speaker 11: The College of Cardinals will assemble after. Of course, the

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Speaker 11: funeral of Pope Francis and Pope France has certainly caused

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Speaker 11: a lot of heartburn to Catholics in America, and so

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Speaker 11: we're going to talk about the geopolitical significance of this,

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Speaker 11: because remember, John Paul the Second was incredibly effective at

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Speaker 11: fighting communism. I would love to see the next Pope,

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Speaker 11: whomever that is, maybe a Pope from Africa, or a

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Speaker 11: had against totalitarian Marxism. We'll discuss that later in the hour.

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Speaker 11: But first breaking yesterday on Easter Sunday was another attack

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Speaker 11: on American patriot Pete Hegseth. The New York Times launched

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Speaker 11: a massive attack on the front page. Right here, Defense

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Speaker 11: Set's family members and lawyer are linked to encrypted chat.

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Speaker 11: There's a lot going on here, some of which I

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Speaker 11: can talk about publicly, some of which I cannot talk

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the essence of it.

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Speaker 11: They're criticizing Pete hegg Seth for sending war plans again

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Speaker 11: in a signal group chat. Now he denies this. It

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Speaker 11: looks like it's total incomplete BS. We know that there

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Speaker 11: were not war plans being sent. They're trying to take

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Speaker 11: out Pete Hegseth, and that really goes down to what's

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Speaker 11: going on here. They're not attacking Pete Hegseth because he's failing.

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Speaker 11: They are attacking Pete hegg Seth because he's succeeding.

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Speaker 1: Here's what they won't talk about.

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Speaker 11: You see, it's not that Pete Hegseth is a disaster

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Speaker 11: of a Secretary of Defense.

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Speaker 1: Quite the opposite.

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Speaker 11: He's already succeeding in the metrics that matter most from

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Speaker 11: building a lethal fighting force. And we must ask the

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Speaker 11: question throughout Coroy Bono, we asked this question a lot.

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Speaker 11: Who benefits from attacking Pete Hegseth. You see, it's not

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Speaker 11: that the military is falling apart like it was under

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Speaker 11: Joe Biden. The numbers are remarkable. First, recruiting is up

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Speaker 11: after historic lows in twenty twenty two, and twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 11: The Army and the Marine Corps recruiting have rebounded. In

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Speaker 11: fiscal year twenty twenty four, Quarter one, the Army reported

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Speaker 11: a ten percent increase in new enlistments year over year.

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Speaker 11: The Marine Corps hit one hundred percent of its recruiting goals. So,

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Speaker 11: when Joe Biden was president and Lloyd Austin was running things,

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Speaker 11: military recruitment was down, but interestingly, almost no one ever

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Speaker 11: attacked them. And just to be clear, Lloyd Austin did

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Speaker 11: something infinitely more inexcusable than Pete Hegseth when he was

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Speaker 11: our military was largely broken because of Lloyd Austin's decision

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Speaker 11: surgery or something without telling anybody. Morale is up. A

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Speaker 11: recent Rand Corporation survey shows a fifteen point jump in

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Speaker 11: It's interesting how morale goes up when you say that

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get rid of the woke stuff.

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Speaker 11: We're also not going to allow transgender people in the

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Speaker 11: military and all of a sudden boom, morale goes up.

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Speaker 11: Has the media mentioned any of this or is it

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Speaker 11: just the swirling attacks here it says Pete Hegseth is

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Speaker 11: under fire, Well, he might be under fire by all

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Speaker 11: the right people in DC. Instead, they should be doing

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Speaker 11: how recruiting is up, morale is up, and yes, standards

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Speaker 11: challenge and purpose. And yes, even efficiency is up. Did

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Speaker 11: you know that the Department of Offenses Inspector General just

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Speaker 11: last month did an audit and they noted a twelve

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Speaker 11: and Taiwan, joint exercises are up thirty percent year over year,

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Speaker 11: And of course, most importantly, our lethality is up. The

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Speaker 11: US military is again training for war fighting, not workshops.

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Speaker 11: real numbers morale, lethality, preparedness efficiency, So by all objective measurements,

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Speaker 11: Pete Hegset, in his short window of time has been

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Speaker 11: a roaring success, probably the most effective Secretary of Defense

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Speaker 11: since the New millennium. When you have a military that

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Speaker 11: was bogged down by bureaucracy, wokeism, and low morale, and

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Speaker 11: all of a sudden you see that turned around. You

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Speaker 11: have to wonder, but what is down?

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Speaker 1: Exactly?

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Speaker 11: What's down in the Secretary of Defense's office? What is

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Speaker 11: down in the Pentagon? The influence of neocons and the

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Speaker 11: failed perpetual war architects, the bureaucracy of combat forces that

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Speaker 11: ideological causes over national security.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what is gone now?

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Speaker 11: Pete Hegset has removed this from the US military, and

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Speaker 11: that makes him a major enemy of the entrenched, permanent

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Speaker 11: bureaucracy in the Pentagon. When he removes the gay poems

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Speaker 11: from our battleships, it turns out that you can have

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Speaker 11: a thirty percent increase in wargames. Turns out that you

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Speaker 11: could be twelve percent more efficient play Cup one thirty four.

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Speaker 20: The coolest thing I did on board was to be

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Speaker 20: able to participate in a LGBTQ spoken word night, and

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Speaker 11: Here's breaking news, President Trump backing Pete heg Seth live

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Speaker 11: Do you remember what we had to do on this program.

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Speaker 2: public buildings, and military installations to be flown at half staff.

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Speaker 2: He made the announcement in this True Social post, saying

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Speaker 2: the flag shall be flown at half staff for the

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Speaker 2: same length of time at all US embassies and consulates

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Speaker 2: abroad as well. The move is being taken quote as

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Speaker 2: a mark of respect for the memory of His holiness,

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Speaker 2: Pope Francis. Francis's death was announced early this morning. The

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Speaker 2: Vatican isn't being specific about his cause of death, but

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Speaker 2: we do know he suffered from very illnesses recently. Pope

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Speaker 2: Francis dead at eighty eight years old. Well wishes and

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Speaker 2: condolences from world leaders are flooding into our flooding and

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Speaker 2: excuse me for the pontiff. President Trump out with a

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Speaker 2: short tribute, saying on True Social rest in peace, Pope Francis.

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Speaker 2: May God bless him and all who loved him. King

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Speaker 2: Charles of England is remembering the pope quote contagious smile

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Speaker 2: and boundless compassion in this statement posted on x The

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Speaker 2: King goes on to write the Queen and I remember

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Speaker 2: him with particular affection our meetings with the Holiness over

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Speaker 2: the years, and we were greatly moved to have been

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Speaker 2: able to visit with him earlier in the month, and

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Speaker 2: just hours ago, Vice President Vance learned the news, writing,

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Speaker 2: I was happy to see him yesterday, though he was

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Speaker 2: obviously very ill. But I'll always remember him for the

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Speaker 2: below homily he gave in the very early days of COVID.

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Speaker 2: It was really quite beautiful. May God rest his soul,

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Speaker 2: he writes. Cardinals from around the world. Meantime, we're preparing

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Speaker 2: travel plans to the Vatican as we speak, in advance

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Speaker 2: of the first papal conclave in a decade. The conclave

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Speaker 2: is a secret meeting during which the next pope is

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Speaker 2: going to be elected. Eligible cardinals will be locked in

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Speaker 2: the secure area of the Vatican, typically the Assistine Chapel,

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Speaker 2: where they'll deliberate potentially for weeks until they reach a decision.

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Speaker 2: They won't be allowed to leave or communicate with the

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Speaker 1: Michael, great to see you, Charlie.

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Speaker 26: It's great to be with you. I'm sorry that I

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Speaker 26: can't be on camera. The timing of this is really odd.

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Speaker 26: I was walking down this morning to the Easter egg

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Speaker 26: hunt at the White House and I got my whole

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Speaker 26: family with me at six o'clock in the morning, and

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Speaker 26: I see that the Holy Father has died, and I thought,

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Speaker 26: you know, of all the mornings to take off work,

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Speaker 26: this is probably one of the worst ones I could

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Speaker 26: have taken off. But Alas, I'm glad that I could

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Speaker 26: at least phone in because I think people are having

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Speaker 26: a lot of trouble processing the news. I mean, you

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Speaker 26: and I have talked about the Pope for years at

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Speaker 26: this point, and I'm not going to sugarcoat it. There

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Speaker 26: are plenty of conservatives and conservative Catholics have had a

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Speaker 26: lot of questions with Pope Francis and problems with some

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Speaker 26: of the things he's done, so there's no sugarcoating. But

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Speaker 26: I think when we consider his legacy, the most notable

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Speaker 26: aspect of it to me is that left right political

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Speaker 26: analysis doesn't totally map on to ancient institutions. That's kind

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Speaker 26: of my biggest takeaway with Pope Francis, because whenever we

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Speaker 26: think we can pin him down, we say, all right,

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Speaker 26: he's Argentinean, he comes from this kind of left wing

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Speaker 26: economic background. Then he'll come out and say something like

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Speaker 26: gay marriage is a machination of the father of lies

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Speaker 26: to deceive and used the children of God. You know,

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Speaker 26: every time we think he's going soft on some social issue,

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Speaker 26: he'll say abortion is an assassination, you know, abortionists or

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Speaker 26: hired assassins, and so you can't you can't really pin

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Speaker 26: him down. And I think part of the reason for

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Speaker 26: that is just the weight of the Catholic Church. You know,

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Speaker 26: It's just it's just been around for so long, and

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Speaker 26: so we can't are modern notions of politics, you know,

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Speaker 26: they take you as far as they take you. But

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Speaker 26: but it would be a disservice to to the man,

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Speaker 26: really to to try to just minimize him in that way.

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Speaker 11: So he his passing was today, We've only lived through

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Speaker 11: three popes. I don't know how I'm guessing. I don't

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Speaker 11: know your age exactly, Michael, but yeah, three posts. You know,

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Speaker 11: I was gonna say, that's right, and just think about that,

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Speaker 11: I mean, rather monumental, how few popes there are. And

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Speaker 11: so let's get technical for a second. Michael. I, as

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Speaker 11: you know, am not Catholic. I'm an Evangelical. A lot

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Speaker 11: of respect for Catholics, and a lot of people that

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Speaker 11: I care about are Catholic. And you know, we know

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Speaker 11: a lot of good local Catholics here, including local father.

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Speaker 11: What is the College of Cardinals? What is about to happen?

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Speaker 11: So everyone meets in realm Sistine Chapel. Who's involved in it?

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Speaker 11: It's kind of a good old boys network, is what

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Speaker 11: I'm told. Did Pope Francis put a lot of his

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Speaker 11: allies in there?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 11: Just walk us through the technical details what we can

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Speaker 11: expect for the selection of a new pope because it

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Speaker 11: gets a little rusty here because we've only seen it

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Speaker 11: a couple times in our lifetime.

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Speaker 26: That's true, and this what we're doing right now has

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Speaker 26: been happening for about two thousand years. Which is immediately

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Speaker 26: when the seat is vacant, they call it se dee becante.

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Speaker 26: When a pope dies, immediately everyone starts talking about who's

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Speaker 26: the next one going to be?

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Speaker 5: How does this happen?

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Speaker 26: So the cardinal Tamerlango comes out, this is this position

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Speaker 26: in the Vatican. He's announced the pope's death, and there

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Speaker 26: will be a period of about fifteen to no more

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Speaker 26: than twenty days of morning and then the College of

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Speaker 26: Cardinals is going to assemble. The cardinals are bishops who

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Speaker 26: are picked by the pope as sort of advisors and

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Speaker 26: have positions within the Vatican. Bishops under the age of

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Speaker 26: eighty can herb sorry, cardinals under the age of eighty

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Speaker 26: can vote for a pope in the College of Cardinals.

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Speaker 26: So they they're not only within the College of Cardinals,

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Speaker 26: but they're cardinal electors. They're all going to meet. They're

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Speaker 26: about I think about one hundred and eighty of them

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Speaker 26: right now who are eligible to vote. They're going to

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Speaker 26: go into the Sistine Chapel and then you're not going

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Speaker 26: to hear anything else the way that you're going to

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Speaker 26: know that they've picked a pope both through smoke coming

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Speaker 26: out of the Vaticans, so you know, classically you're looking

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Speaker 26: for the white smoke or the black smoke, and then

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Speaker 26: when when the right smoke comes up, then they're going

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Speaker 26: to say, abe mus Papa. So who's it going to be?

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Speaker 26: Because again, not to sugarcoat some of the questions that

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Speaker 26: have come up under the Francis Pontificate, a lot of

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Speaker 26: people are saying, is the next pope going to be

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Speaker 26: really liberal? Is he going to be is he going to,

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Speaker 26: I don't know, try to undermine the Catholic tradition or

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Speaker 26: something like that. And again, you know, it's really hard

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Speaker 26: to predict these things. But just because Pope France has

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Speaker 26: appointed now so many cardinals does not necessarily mean that

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Speaker 26: the cardinals are politically liberal or you know, I don't

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Speaker 26: know side with Pope Francis on this issue or that issue.

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Speaker 26: You know, a lot of these popes are in the

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Speaker 26: developing world, a lot of them are socially very very conservative.

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Speaker 26: And so the ones who are up for it right now.

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Speaker 26: One who's been talked about is Cardinal Pizza Bala. He's

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Speaker 26: the Latin patriarch of Jerusalem. That would be quite interesting

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Speaker 26: given what a touch point Jerusalem has been in the

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Speaker 26: Israel Gaza conflict. Another one who's up for it would

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Speaker 26: be Peter Urdo. He's in Hungary, also considered moderate to conservative.

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Speaker 26: There are a few who seem to be a little

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Speaker 26: bit more liberal. That would be Cardinal Zupi Zupi or Periline,

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Speaker 26: Cardinal Peroline. But again we don't really know. You know,

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Speaker 26: in some ways, it's kind of like the Supreme Court justices.

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Speaker 26: You know, Republican pick these Supreme Court justices and then

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Speaker 26: half of the time they go on and disappoint us.

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Speaker 26: They rule in ways that are totally different than we expected,

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Speaker 26: and that could happen, you know, as well with with popes.

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Speaker 26: I mean, just to use the example of John Paul

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Speaker 26: the Second everyone loves, don't forget. John Paul the Second

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Speaker 26: was a child of Vatican Two, of this major ecumenical council,

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Speaker 26: which resulted in all sorts of reforms that some of

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Speaker 26: the reforms that follow the Sego Vatican Council, some of

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Speaker 26: us think had some problems with them, especially those of

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Speaker 26: us who love the traditional Latin masks, the traditional liturgy.

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Speaker 26: And yet John Paul the Second and put Benedict for

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Speaker 26: that matter, you know, considered perhaps even more conservative. Both

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Speaker 26: of these guys come out of the Vatican Council, and

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Speaker 26: yet they become some of the most stalwart conservative seeming

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Speaker 26: figures of our lifetime. So I guess, getting back to

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Speaker 26: the top, that's what I mean when I say you

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Speaker 26: can't totally map this stuff on to left right politics.

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Speaker 26: And also you might think you've got a slam dunk

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Speaker 26: with whichever cardinal is going to be the next pope

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Speaker 26: doesn't have to be a cardinal, and technically I suppose

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Speaker 26: could be me, but no one's picked up to call me.

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Speaker 26: So you know, you think she might know what the

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Speaker 26: next pontificate is going to look like. Really, at this

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Speaker 26: point we have no idea.

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Speaker 11: What do you want to see in the next pope?

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Speaker 11: I mean, obviously would help if he's Catholic, but what

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Speaker 11: what would you like to see? As far as the

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Speaker 11: advocacy internationally? You mentioned John Paul the Second. As I

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Speaker 11: was raised my grandmother, incredibly devout Catholic, wonderful person.

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Speaker 1: We grew up talking about John.

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Speaker 11: Paul the Second, about his moral clarity, about his uncompromising

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Speaker 11: views on the protective life, and honestly, how.

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Speaker 1: He believed the West was the best.

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Speaker 11: He was an articulate and effective critic of the Soviet Union.

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Speaker 11: Being the Polish pope, he was vehemently anti communist. He

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Speaker 11: made no he made no mystery or no mistake with that.

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Speaker 11: What would you like to see in the next pope?

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Speaker 11: And let's let's talk less regionally or less biographically, but

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Speaker 11: from a positional let's just say, from the position of

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Speaker 11: the pope, what would you like to see?

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Speaker 24: Right?

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Speaker 26: What's he good to do? You know, not that anyone's

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Speaker 26: called to ask me, however, but you have called to

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Speaker 26: in the curia could listen. I think what would be

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Speaker 26: really helpful to the church in the next pope is

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Speaker 26: to have a pope who is not hostile to tradition,

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Speaker 26: to the traditional liturgy. You know, what we call the

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Speaker 26: Mass of the Age is the traditional Latin Mass. A

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Speaker 26: lot of people think the traditional Latin Mass is just

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Speaker 26: the new Mass that we have, but in Latin that's

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Speaker 26: not true. To really different masses. The new Mass has

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Speaker 26: removed a lot of prayers. The New Mass actually could

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Speaker 26: be said in Latin, but usually is not. You know,

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Speaker 26: the reason I mentioned this is not just because I'm

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Speaker 26: a fuddyduddy and I have bow ties or something. It's

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Speaker 26: because there is so much beauty in this Mass that

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Speaker 26: endured substantially unchanged for about fourteen years.

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Speaker 4: There's so much beauty that.

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Speaker 26: It's attracting a lot of people back to the church.

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Speaker 5: You're seeing that.

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Speaker 26: You saw this in France. Just on Easter Sunday, you

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Speaker 26: had a record number of baptisms in the UK. Now

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Speaker 26: you've got this massive resurgence in the Catholic Church in England.

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Speaker 26: For goodness sake, so's the birthplade. This is the land

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Speaker 26: of Henry the eighth, and yet now Catholics are outnumbering Anglicans.

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Speaker 26: I mean, it's it's this unthinkable. I don't know what

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Speaker 26: you want to call it. Springtime for the church. A

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Speaker 26: lot of the people who are converting are converting not

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Speaker 26: because of innovations or electric guitars or something, but because

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Speaker 26: the old smells and bells. Yeah, listen, I play electric guitar.

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Speaker 26: I'm not totally of those electric guitars.

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Speaker 11: The kidding you're onto something, you're on to something, You're

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Speaker 11: not wrong.

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Speaker 26: I mean, they love I mean, I think you could

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Speaker 26: say this, Charlie, even from the evangelical perspective, where people

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Speaker 26: are returning, it's where they find orthodoxy. It's not where

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Speaker 26: they want more of the world, right. They want they

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Speaker 26: want something. They want something a little, a little higher

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Speaker 26: than the world, at least for Sunday morning. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 26: that would be what I would hope for in a pope.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: And I'm going to talk about this in the last

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Speaker 11: segment here, which is especially young men. They see a

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Speaker 11: one thing that hasn't changed in two thousand years.

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Speaker 1: And they say, hey, that's this place.

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Speaker 11: This place has lasted, and I know it's going to

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Speaker 11: last another two thousand years because it hasn't changed. So

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Speaker 11: that's what I want. Michael, in closing here, what is

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Speaker 11: a timeline? When can we expect a new pope? Would

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Speaker 26: Well, officially there's no campaigning, there's no jockey, and of

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Speaker 26: course the reality might differ from the official way it's

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Speaker 26: supposed to go. I could see us having it. I

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Speaker 26: bet we could have a pope within within three weeks,

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Speaker 26: or maybe just after three weeks. I don't think it's

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Speaker 26: going to take very long. I think that there could

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Speaker 26: be people have been expecting this now ever since, but

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Speaker 26: Francis's most recent illness, so I think things are going

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Speaker 26: don't think it's going to be long now. I mean,

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Speaker 26: just as young people are returning to the church because

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Speaker 26: they want stability, they want order, they want orthodoxy. Yes,

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Speaker 26: I think the Vatican want some stability too, and so

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Speaker 26: I think it's going to happen fast.

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Speaker 11: Michael Knowles's excellent work is always check out the Michael

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 11: Hope a good decision is made and someone that leads

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Michael. What do we have?

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Speaker 11: I think it's very interesting and instructive in a variety

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Speaker 11: of ways. Young people are converting to Catholicism on Moss,

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Speaker 11: I said, guys, this is a trend that's happening. Are

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Speaker 11: I think he was spot on with saying that young

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Speaker 11: That's a much more that's a much more appealing picture

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Speaker 11: People are seeking tradition, and what I hear from young

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Speaker 11: It's a learning lesson for a lot of pastors I

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Speaker 1: You're not doing your job.

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Speaker 11: And I could tell you on Saturday evening, I wanted

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Speaker 11: half the people there were people my age. It was

873
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Speaker 11: like a selfie line just trying to get in there.

874
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Speaker 11: Everyone knew they followed the show. I said, is this

875
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Speaker 11: a turning point rally or is this an Easter vigil

876
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 11: the night before our Lord Again? I'm not Catholic, but

877
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Speaker 11: I went there because when I walk into that specific

878
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Speaker 11: Catholic church, it points up. It's not a costco with

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00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 11: a rock band and a ted talk and good coffee.

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Speaker 11: To be honest, I've had enough of that. I don't

881
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Speaker 11: want to go to Sam's Club to go to church

882
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Speaker 11: or a school gym. Kind of enjoyed the holiness, the beauty,

883
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Speaker 11: the pageantry, the structure, the tradition of the reverence. So

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Speaker 11: I totally get it. God bless those churches for elevating

885
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Speaker 11: our soul. Second hour coming up.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 2: Terrence Bathes. How often do you wake up with some

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00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: sort of pain or discomfort? Here's another question for you.

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00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: What would you do or say if I told you

890
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: that there's a way to potentially limit your pain.

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00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 27: When I started this, my pain level was between seven

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Speaker 27: and eight twenty four to seven. I had chronic pain,

893
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Speaker 27: was not getting any relief, and I did quite well.

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Speaker 27: I would say, now it's at three to four. The

895
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Speaker 27: other thing is no more blood pressure medicine. I actually

896
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Speaker 27: don't take any medication anymore.

897
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Speaker 2: The man you just heard from got help from John

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Speaker 2: Jubilee and the folks over at Energized Health. John joins

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Speaker 2: me now to explain, John, always good to see you,

900
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: my friend. Chronic pain can really wear a person down.

901
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: But you say that you've got the fountain of you

902
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: if you can. And how folks deal with their chronic pain?

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00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 28: Yeah, well, Terrence, because yeah, I personally dealt with severe

904
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Speaker 28: joint pain myself being bone on bone and both my knees,

905
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Speaker 28: and you know, and I would ask, you know, how

906
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Speaker 28: many of us, how many of us, Terrence are like

907
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Speaker 28: me that you decided or you thought that, hey, this

908
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 28: is just life, this is just how it is.

909
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 12: I just have to deal with this. I just have

910
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 12: to pop the tail.

911
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 28: And all and just kind of live the tilent all

912
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Speaker 28: life of just trying to deal with my pain. But guys,

913
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Speaker 28: can I just tell you I never imagined it was

914
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Speaker 28: possible to be pain free? Pain free a Terrence. I'm

915
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 28: thrilled to tell people, you know, this year, I'm officially,

916
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Speaker 28: you know, going to be sixty five years old this year.

917
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Speaker 12: Formal senior citizen.

918
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Speaker 28: And I'm thrilled to say, guess what, guy, if you

919
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 28: could be a senior citizen in no pain, in zero pain.

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Speaker 12: And this is what happened to me twenty eight years

921
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Speaker 12: to go.

922
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Speaker 28: Now, with intrat sular hydration, I reversed all of that

923
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Speaker 28: joint pain, the high blood pressure that I had, and

924
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Speaker 28: all those little aches.

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Speaker 12: And pains that we just think as a normal part

926
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Speaker 12: of life. It's not, Terrence. We really can reverse those pains.

927
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Speaker 2: And the thing about pain is that it can become

928
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Speaker 2: a lifestyle issue. It really limits people from doing the

929
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Speaker 2: things that they otherwise might just because you don't want

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Speaker 2: to have to deal with those aches and pains. You

931
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Speaker 2: don't want to have to deal with, you know, bones

932
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Speaker 2: creaking every step.

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Speaker 12: You make, you know, Terrence, that's exactly true.

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Speaker 28: And again, guys, how many of you you look at

935
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 28: a flight of stairs and you think, where's the elevator?

936
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Speaker 12: Because that's going to hurt. And I know, Terrence, this

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Speaker 12: was my story.

938
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Speaker 28: I'd look at a flight of stairs and think, oh

939
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Speaker 28: my gosh, I hope there's an elevator, you know, or

940
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Speaker 28: one of those ramps. All those little things, guys, that

941
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Speaker 28: we don't have to live as a slave or to

942
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Speaker 28: be totally controlled and manipulated just because of our little

943
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Speaker 28: aches and pains.

944
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Speaker 12: We can really reverse those.

945
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Speaker 28: All that is is cellular dehydration. We have inflammation in

946
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Speaker 28: our body. Inflammation always causes pain, guys. But if we

947
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Speaker 28: can flush out our inflammation, which we can through our

948
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Speaker 28: intracellular hydration protocol, we can get rid of that inflammation.

949
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Speaker 28: We can get rid of those toxins. You can live

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Speaker 28: a pain free life at any age.

951
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Speaker 2: You really can so using your system, how quickly would

952
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Speaker 2: you do you think people get to see results. Let's

953
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Speaker 2: just be honest. We're in a society where we want

954
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Speaker 2: to see immediate results. Are the results immediate or are

955
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Speaker 2: we talking over a course of months, a course of weeks?

956
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Speaker 2: How quickly can people see results using energized health?

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Speaker 12: Well, you know what, here's what it's crazy, Terrence. I

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Speaker 12: would love I would love to say, guess what, guys,

959
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Speaker 12: you got.

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Speaker 28: To be in it for the long haul. It's going

961
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Speaker 28: to take a while. Appearance is not the truth. It

962
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Speaker 28: takes about fourteen days. In just fourteen days, you will

963
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Speaker 28: start seeing that, Oh my gosh, this is really working.

964
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Speaker 28: You know, my pain is going away, my inflammation is

965
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Speaker 28: going away, and all by the way, and man, I'm

966
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Speaker 28: losing fat. You know, we have people lose five pounds

967
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Speaker 28: of fat in just five days, and of course that's

968
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Speaker 28: taking pain off of your joints. Five pounds of fat

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Speaker 28: is like twenty five pounds of weight on your joint.

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Speaker 28: You know, it's a five to Some people say as

971
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Speaker 28: much as ten to one, so it'd be like fifty pounds.

972
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Speaker 28: But when you take all that weight off your joints, guys,

973
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Speaker 28: in as little as two weeks, you will know I'm

974
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Speaker 28: transforming and then within just a few months you could

975
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Speaker 28: be pain free, Terrence in just a few months, eighty

976
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Speaker 28: eight days.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's what we'd like to hear. John Jubilee,

978
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Speaker 2: as always, my friend, it's good to talk to you.

979
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Speaker 2: The information is right there.

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Speaker 4: On your screen, folks.

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Speaker 2: Energizedealth dot com. You can go to energized heealth dot

982
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 2: com to get all the information that you want. As

983
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: you just heard John say, in a matter of days

984
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Speaker 2: you could start seeing changes. Thanks so much for being

985
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: here with us. I'm Terrence Bates. Now let's get you

986
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Speaker 2: back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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Speaker 11: Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us is always freedom at

988
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 11: Charliekirk dot com and subscribe to our podcast. Joining us

989
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 11: now is a very good friend of mine. By the way,

990
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Speaker 11: we're here live at the bigcoin dot Com studio. It's

991
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Speaker 11: Bitcoin dot Com. Is a great friend. Alex Marlow, he's terrific.

992
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 11: We gotta have Alex on Moore, he's just terrific. And

993
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 11: Salem Radio Network and amongst many of the things. So Alex.

994
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 11: A lot to discuss here. But as you know, I

995
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Speaker 11: went on Bill Maher's program last week. I have never

996
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Speaker 11: done marijuana my life, but I don't know if I

997
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 11: could say that anymore so now when I go to

998
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 11: these college campuses'll say, have Charlie, have you ever smoked weed?

999
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 11: I'm like, well, not directly, but very well by secondhand smoke.

1000
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 11: What was your reaction to my conversation with Bill Maher?

1001
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Speaker 11: I thought it was very friendly, It was very cordial

1002
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Speaker 11: and in some ways very hopeful, Alex your thoughts.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, totally agree. Good for you for going on, Charlie,

1004
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 29: you're cornering the market for actually talking to the other side,

1005
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 29: which is which is nice. It's the it's a great

1006
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 29: spot to be in. If I interviewed you, my first

1007
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 29: question was going to be did you get a contact high?

1008
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 29: It's one of these things out here in California, that is,

1009
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 29: it's a real thing.

1010
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 4: Because I've never spoke weed also, so I don't.

1011
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 26: I think you.

1012
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 29: Now have officially had a half a time, So I

1013
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 29: think one half of a time. I think you can

1014
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 29: say if anyone asked, my.

1015
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Speaker 4: Reaction is very positive.

1016
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Speaker 11: For the record, I did not inhale.

1017
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 4: That's right. It's worked before.

1018
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 29: That excuse has worked before in the past, people have

1019
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 29: gotten away with it. So my reaction is very positive.

1020
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Speaker 29: I'm glad you're doing it. I'm glad he's doing this.

1021
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 29: So in general, I'm in the camp that mars stick.

1022
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 29: He's got a couple of sticks, but one of them

1023
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 29: is he's saying all the stuff that folks like you

1024
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 29: and me and Steve and all that Donald Trump were

1025
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 29: saying eight ten years ago, and people are talking about

1026
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 29: him like he's a genius for saying them, and I

1027
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 29: do find that a little irritating and frustrating. But he

1028
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Speaker 29: does have one other stick that I love, which is

1029
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 29: he literally is the only person who's talking to all

1030
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Speaker 29: people of every political angle.

1031
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 4: I know you would talk to them, Charlie.

1032
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 29: I know I would talk to them on my show,

1033
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 29: but they don't tend to show up for whatever reason.

1034
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Speaker 29: He's figured out a way to get all these people

1035
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Speaker 29: to show up and talk to him of all these

1036
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Speaker 29: different viewpoints, and it is a terrific product that he

1037
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Speaker 29: puts out because of that. And it's not that he's

1038
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Speaker 29: so amazing, even though he's of course got some skills,

1039
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 29: but his ability to bring people in is a skill

1040
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Speaker 29: in and of itself, and you've absolutely got to hand

1041
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 29: it to him for that. And it makes it so

1042
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 29: that you're able to get deeper on conversations and topics

1043
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Speaker 29: that you're just not going to be able to do

1044
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Speaker 29: in a two minute sound bit iter people talking past

1045
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Speaker 29: each other on social media. So I'm glad you're doing it,

1046
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Speaker 29: and I'm glad that.

1047
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Speaker 4: This could be hopefully open up some doors for some people.

1048
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Speaker 11: Yeah, and we have later in the hour, Frank Turrek

1049
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 11: to die deeper into the apologetics christian side of the discussion,

1050
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Speaker 11: which a lot of our discussion was centered around Christianity.

1051
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Speaker 11: Let's just play one piece of tape here, and then

1052
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Speaker 11: I want to get into some of the news of

1053
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Speaker 11: the day, because we did talk a lot about Garcia.

1054
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Speaker 11: That was a big portion of my conversation with Bill Maher.

1055
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Speaker 11: Let's play a little funny one. Let's play cut one

1056
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Speaker 11: twenty three.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm good, thank you.

1058
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Speaker 7: You don't drink no, of course, smoke pot no, and

1059
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Speaker 7: you're married and super Christian.

1060
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Speaker 4: We're going to go along great, this.

1061
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Speaker 1: Is this is going to just be perfect.

1062
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Speaker 11: And we did get along great. It's a good example

1063
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Speaker 11: of how we can heal the country. Yeah, it is.

1064
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Speaker 4: And I do like that you guys got along.

1065
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Speaker 29: I think it's a good thing because for me, I'm

1066
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Speaker 29: an information guy and I am ideologically conservative.

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Speaker 4: I'm a Catholic, I'm a Christian.

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Speaker 29: It's the I've been a Republican for my whole life,

1069
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Speaker 29: even though that's been hard sometimes. But I will tell you, Charlie,

1070
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Speaker 29: what animates me more as a newsperson is what's next,

1071
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 29: what's coming down the pie, what's exciting, what interesting conversations

1072
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Speaker 29: are being had, and so I want more of that.

1073
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Speaker 29: I don't need agreement to this world will be incredibly

1074
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Speaker 29: uninteresting if people only agreed.

1075
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Speaker 4: So if there's.

1076
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Speaker 29: A new willingness to talk amongst people who do not

1077
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Speaker 29: have your same viewpoint or lifestyle. You have children, he's

1078
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Speaker 29: twice your age and no children. I mean, there's so

1079
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Speaker 29: many differences, but it does make for an interesting conversation.

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Speaker 29: I'm just sad to see it's so infrequent. It really

1081
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Speaker 29: is still too infrequent. This is, unfortunately the exception and

1082
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 29: not the rule. But let's make it the rule. Let's

1083
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Speaker 29: make it the rule that we actually start talking to

1084
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 29: each other again. But also, I think some of what

1085
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Speaker 29: he's doing there with the substances is stick. I think

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Speaker 29: he's trying to draw you out. I think Rogan does

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Speaker 29: this to some degree with people. I don't Was he

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Speaker 29: getting drunk and high while he was there? I know

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Speaker 29: he was sipping on stuff, but.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, no, no, no, yeah, it was, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 11: It was quite a exhibit in hedonism.

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Speaker 29: Oh really, that's because I always feel like I asked

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Speaker 29: this because my friend Robert Dobby right for us sometimes

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Speaker 29: who I'm sure you're aware of who's an actor from

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Speaker 29: a lot of things die Hard among other things. He

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Speaker 29: used to hang out with a lot of the wrap

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Speaker 29: pack guys. I always asked him, were they always just

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Speaker 29: getting completely loaded or was that part of part of

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Speaker 29: part of an image, And he said it was a mix.

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Speaker 29: It was they were drinking, but it was exaggerated for

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Speaker 29: the sake of storytelling.

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Speaker 11: So so Alex now transitioning to mister Abrego Garcia Kim's.

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Speaker 4: Favorite Maryland resident.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Maryland Dad, the Maryland man, the upstanding citizen. Where

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Speaker 11: does this whole situation stand and what is your analysis

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Speaker 11: of it?

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Speaker 29: So what's interesting about this case is that I think

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Speaker 29: both sides is a rorshack test. Both sides think they're

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Speaker 29: going to win this thing. We see it as these

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00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 29: people are lunatics. They are all in for MS thirteen,

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Speaker 29: meaning the Democrats. They're going down there with the have

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Speaker 29: Margarita's with MS thirteen members. It's this case where he's

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Speaker 29: got all these people in the car with him, and

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Speaker 29: noe's got any luggage and it is clearly involved in

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Speaker 29: human smuggling that appears to be adding to his resume.

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Speaker 29: Makes you feel as though that how could the Democrats

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Speaker 29: possibly get the upper hand on this, but that's not

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Speaker 29: really the game they're playing. The game they're playing is

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Speaker 29: they're trying to trip up Donald Trump and Steven Miller

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Speaker 29: and the people who are setting policy for the White

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Speaker 29: House and trying to get them to cross one of

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Speaker 29: these judges to have some sort of a constitutional crisis

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Speaker 29: to creating narrative that will allow for them to win

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Speaker 29: in the midterms and then start the impeachments and Trump's

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Speaker 29: presidency is going to be completely curtailed by the left

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Speaker 29: wing hysteria and legal activism and law fair. That's the

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Speaker 29: game they're playing. They're not really living for just this

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Speaker 29: new cycle. They're trying to lay out a strategy that

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Speaker 29: will eventually lead to an impeachment for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: So let's not get too cocky.

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Speaker 29: I know they look insane defending MS thirteen today, but

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Speaker 29: we've got to be pretty vigilant here because if Trump

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Speaker 29: makes one false move here, they're trying to come up

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Speaker 29: with a strategy that leads to his, if not outright removal,

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Speaker 29: at least waste all his time.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so I think that's right. I think that's really

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Speaker 11: appropriate prudence. What do you make of the calamity in

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Speaker 11: the judicial branch. There is a school of thought this

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Speaker 11: is look, the Trump administration, just fill out the forms,

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Speaker 11: request him back. In quotes Bokel will say no, that'll

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Speaker 11: satisfy the courts, and this issue will largely be put

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Speaker 11: to rest. It keeps on living because of the numerous

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Speaker 11: court interventions around this case.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, it's a great question because I'm generally a don't

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Speaker 29: give an inch guy, But I do feel like I

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Speaker 29: would kind of love to see them bring him back

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Speaker 29: and then just deport them again, because they would and

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Speaker 29: they could. Miller said as much, and he could be

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Speaker 29: deported for any reason.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 29: Maybe this morning I'm leaning towards towards do that, But

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Speaker 29: in general, until you just brought it up just now,

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Speaker 29: I do like that don't give an inch approach. Who

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Speaker 29: cares about these people, who cares about left wing media.

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Speaker 29: There was nothing wrong that was done in terms of

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Speaker 29: the law, but the left things there's some sort of

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Speaker 29: a hold order that Trump is violating here. And Trump

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Speaker 29: has not crossed one of these law fier judges yet.

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Speaker 4: He's not done anything illegal.

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Speaker 29: He does not, And I think that's a really wise

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Speaker 29: strategy for now. But it's also Charlie, what we're seeing

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Speaker 29: is not sustainable. They can't have a six hundred and

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Speaker 29: seventy five presidents of the United States who are doubling

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Speaker 29: his district court judges, who have a veto over everything

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Speaker 29: Donald Trump does.

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Speaker 4: We can't do.

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Speaker 29: That for the next seven to eight, seven or eight years,

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Speaker 29: however long Trump's going to remain as president.

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Speaker 1: So yes, So.

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Speaker 11: Let's play a piece of tape here from Yeah, let's

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Speaker 11: play cut ninety seven.

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Speaker 4: Please, who did pay for this trip?

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Speaker 9: This was an officially clear you know, congressional trip clears yes,

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Speaker 9: like every other trip.

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Speaker 11: And then let's put one seventy two up on screen.

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Speaker 11: This shows that again apparently so gang tattoos work in

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Speaker 11: MS thirteen style.

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Speaker 1: Tattoo right on his hands.

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Speaker 11: And so Alex, your message is caution here, understand the

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Speaker 11: bigger picture. Please elaborate one final time and I got

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Speaker 11: a one minute.

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Speaker 22: Yeah.

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Speaker 29: I just feel like this is one where in the

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Speaker 29: short term we got to emphasize the Democrats are cornered

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Speaker 29: here defending all of them S. Thirteen, and they're of

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Speaker 29: course defending illegal alien gang members over American citizens. Continuing

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Speaker 29: Trump continuing to have the Angel moms out there. Make

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Speaker 29: them surrogates in this regard, I think is really important

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Speaker 29: and it's a great move, but just.

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Speaker 4: Know that the main goal. They're not dumb.

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Speaker 29: They're foolish sometimes, but they're not dumb on the left,

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Speaker 29: and they're trying to get Trump administration to violate some

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Speaker 29: sort of directive from a court that could lead towards

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Speaker 29: political momentum towards impeachment. And so just keep that in

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Speaker 29: mind that they're not doing this without an endgame in mind.

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Speaker 29: They are I think we can beat them at this.

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Speaker 29: I think we are beating them. But let's just not

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Speaker 29: not be too over zealous.

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Speaker 11: Stay right there, Alex, we have another friend of the segment.

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Speaker 11: Let's go to Alan Jackson. As the battle between good

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Speaker 11: and evil escalates, it easy to blame politicians, government, or

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Speaker 11: poor leadership, but behind all of that is a spiritual battle.

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Speaker 11: Read what pastor Alan Jackson, friend of mine, says in

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Speaker 11: his new book, Angels, Demons and You. The Bible has

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Speaker 11: a lot to say about angels and their unique roles

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Speaker 11: as God's messengers and our helpers. Angels, Demons and You

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Speaker 11: find valuable insights and practical tools and biblical truth that will.

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Speaker 1: Help you navigate what is ahead. We're gonna need it.

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Speaker 11: Get your copy today at Alan Jackson dot com. Slash

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Speaker 11: Jackson dot com. It's a very powerful book, so take it.

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Speaker 11: Look at it right now, Alan Jackson dot com slash Angels.

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Speaker 11: We have angels and demons all around you. He goes

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Speaker 11: right into the core and the essence. So go to

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Speaker 11: Alan Jackson dot com. That is Alan Jackson dot com.

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Speaker 11: Email us as always Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com

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Speaker 11: and Alexmarlow from Breitbart and the Salem Radio Network is

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Speaker 11: with us. So I want to place a piece of

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Speaker 11: tape here and get your analysis Alex, which it's easy

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Speaker 11: to dismiss this. David Hogg, you know in FI with

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Speaker 11: of course I did a hit with Will Caine on

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Speaker 11: Fox News. I said, look, it's probably a breakdown of

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Speaker 11: fiduciary duty. But understand was our party made stronger because

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Speaker 11: of some of the primary challenges we did the last decade.

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Speaker 11: You see Democrats they've come into a mentality the last

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Speaker 11: couple of years, no primaries doesn't matter, if it's no

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Speaker 11: matter who vote blue. Let's play cut one oh six,

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Speaker 11: and then I want your take on is the Democrat

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Speaker 11: Party trying to get more based play cut one oh six.

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Speaker 18: David hag who I know, you know, a vice chair

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Speaker 18: of the Democratic National Committee. He's going to be joining

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Speaker 18: us on the roundtable and he is pursuing this effort

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Speaker 18: to unseat some Democrats in safe seats through primary challenges.

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Speaker 19: But I look forward to standing behind every single Democratic incumbent,

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Speaker 19: from the most progressive to the most centrist, in all

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Speaker 19: points in between.

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Speaker 29: Alex your thoughts, Yeah, it's really because we and the

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Speaker 29: Republican Party benefited greatly from a civil war that took place,

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Speaker 29: and the history is just just really important here because

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Speaker 29: remember when Mitt Romney lost. I think he spent like

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Speaker 29: three billion dollars on that campaign, and we thought he

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Speaker 29: had a good chance. Remember, Charlie, he basically took a

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Speaker 29: walk on the last debate with Obama because he thought

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Speaker 29: he won. He just agreed with Obama on everything in

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Speaker 29: the last debate, and then he got his clock cleaned.

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Speaker 4: And we were.

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Speaker 29: All sitting around thinking what we got to do, and

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Speaker 29: the Republican establishment told us we need to embrace amnesty,

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Speaker 29: ambassy for legal aliens. That's what it was going to

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Speaker 29: take for us to win elections, and a lot of us,

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Speaker 29: myself included, said we're not going to do that. And

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Speaker 29: that's where places like breit Barton. It led to the

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Speaker 29: rise of Trump starts saying we're going to crack down

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Speaker 29: on this stuff. We're going to complete opposite direction, and

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Speaker 29: we don't care if a civil war breaks out because

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Speaker 29: this is a hill to die on.

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Speaker 4: And it worked out incredibly.

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Speaker 29: I mean, if you had told me that after the

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Speaker 29: I mean I or eight years after that. I mean,

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Speaker 29: you wouldn't believe it. But it worked out for us. Now,

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Speaker 29: the problem is who would win a civil war with

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Speaker 29: the Democrats. It'd probably be the insane people because they've

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Speaker 29: got the most energy. They inspire the donors, so you

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Speaker 29: get this sort of dark woke that is what they're

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Speaker 29: talking about, where they're really leaning into the woke stuff.

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Speaker 29: Even though we think woke is over, Charlie, they don't

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Speaker 29: all feel that way. So if they have a civil war,

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Speaker 29: I think it might actually hurt them. But you know what,

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Speaker 29: if they want to try it, they might need to

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Speaker 29: because their leadership is so lame and weak right now.

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Speaker 11: And so there's something of note here that we don't

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Speaker 11: want to ignore. I was just in Boise, Idaho, and

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Speaker 11: we drew a big crowd. I mean, you know, to

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Speaker 11: go to bate a bunch of college kids to draw

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Speaker 11: three thousand people that's big. However, you have to be honest.

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Speaker 1: You got to tell it like it is.

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Speaker 11: The night before Bernie and AOC, they drew twelve thousand

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Speaker 11: people in Boise. It's a big number. Now, I understand

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Speaker 11: that area, that part of the world doesn't get a

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Speaker 11: lot of attention. It's kind of like what happens when

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Speaker 11: we go to California. When you're so in the ideological minority,

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Speaker 11: you tend to draw out anyone that's like minded, because

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Speaker 11: there really is nothing of the sort but people, and

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Speaker 11: Boise is real. They were drawing big crowds all across

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Speaker 11: the West. What do you make about the AOC of

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Speaker 11: the AOC Bernie combination. Is this a robust grassroots populist

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Speaker 11: counter to MAGA or is it basically the Democrats continuing

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Speaker 11: on their ultra radical policies and something that we should

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Speaker 11: encourage more of happening.

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Speaker 4: Well, Bernie's a total fraud.

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Speaker 29: He wouldn't even support the Democrats that he got along

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Speaker 29: with when Trump put them up for confirmation, which is

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Speaker 29: another genius move by Trump. Not only did he pick

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Speaker 29: the best people for his cabinet, but he picked Democrats

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Speaker 29: specifically to expose the senators who act like their anti establishment,

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Speaker 29: but their pure establishment.

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Speaker 4: Bernie's always been that way.

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Speaker 29: He's got a bunch of houses, he's a rich guy,

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Speaker 29: and then he acts like he's a socialist. But there

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Speaker 29: is an AstroTurf here which might comfort the audience a

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Speaker 29: little bit, which is a lot of them are trying

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Speaker 29: to piggyback off of musical acts, so they'll get the

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Speaker 29: musicians out who people want to see, and then they'll

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Speaker 29: pack on at AOC or Bernie Sanders speech. So I

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Speaker 29: don't really buy the twelve thousand number. But that said,

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Speaker 29: we should go to the d and act as though

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Speaker 29: they're building a robust grassroots resistance that isn't just Soros

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Speaker 29: funded stuff. Likes a lot of the Tesla stuff, and

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Speaker 29: a lot of are reporting this group Indivisible that's very networked,

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Speaker 29: or the new Arabella Advisors where they're just funding everything.

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Speaker 29: We got to act like they're going to get organized

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Speaker 29: and they're going to come back, and they're going to

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Speaker 29: mount to come back. We got to act like we're't

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Speaker 29: a war footing. We're not in peace time yet, we're

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Speaker 29: more time. We should behave that way. But if you

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Speaker 29: want a comfort, I don't think the twelve thousand numbers. Legit, Charlie.

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Speaker 29: Your three thousand number is legit and very impressive. I'm

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Speaker 29: loving the college stuff, absolutely incredible content, and good for

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Speaker 29: you for doing it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 11: In fact, we're doing more campus tour stops this semester

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Speaker 11: than even during the election. We are in a twenty

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Speaker 11: four to seven three sixty five mentality. Elections are merely

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Speaker 11: just moments in a broader cultural conflict. Alex, You're the

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Speaker 11: best plug whatever you want to our audience.

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Speaker 29: Alex Marlow Show and the Salem Podcast Network, so that's

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Speaker 29: the wherever you get your podcasts, and leaving a nice

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Speaker 29: review is always good as well.

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Speaker 4: But anytime you need me, Charlie, I'm here for you.

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Speaker 11: Thanks Alex so much, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 11: Do you have enough faith to be an atheist? I

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Speaker 11: sat down with Bill Maher. We discussed everything from the

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Speaker 11: Resurrection to the Book of Acts.

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Speaker 1: My friend Frank.

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Speaker 11: Turek is the best when it comes to Christian apologetics.

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Speaker 11: We're going to walk through my Bill Maher discussion and

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Speaker 11: add on to it.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 2: Terrence by two with your Real America's Voice news break.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for being here with us. The world

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Speaker 2: is mourning the death of Pope Francis, who passed away

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Speaker 2: while you were sleeping. He was eighty eight years old.

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Speaker 2: The Pontiff had been in failing health and had just

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Speaker 2: been discharged from the hospital recently after a near deadly infection.

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Speaker 2: The death comes less than twenty four hours after Vice

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Speaker 2: President Jadie Vance met with the leader of the Catholic

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Speaker 2: Church at the Vatican on Easter Sunday.

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Speaker 14: I know you've not been feeling greater, but it's good

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Speaker 14: to see.

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Speaker 2: General Vance and his family also observed Eastern Mass at

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Speaker 2: one of the four Pontifical basilicas in Rome. The Vice

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Speaker 2: President is Catholic after converting in twenty nineteen. Pope Francis,

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Speaker 2: by the way, was the first Latin American leader of

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Speaker 2: the Roman Catholic Church. The eyes of the world will

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Speaker 2: remain on the Vatican until white smoke billows from the

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Speaker 2: chimney of the Sistine Chapel, indicating the papal conclave has

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Speaker 2: selected a new leader. By the way, we're also just

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Speaker 2: learning that President Trump is expected to attend Pope Francis's

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Speaker 2: funeral later on this week. Also, the President is ordered

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Speaker 2: that all flags be flown at half staff on federal

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Speaker 2: buildings as well as at the White House in memory

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Speaker 2: of the Pope. The US Supreme Court rules to block

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration from deporting a group of Venezuelan migrants

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Speaker 2: until further notice. The bigger story may be the scathing

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Speaker 2: descent from Justice Samuel Alito, though his colleagues on the

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Speaker 2: hours of this past Easter weekend, which Alito questions in

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Speaker 2: his response, writing in some literally in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the night, the Court issued the unprecedented and legally questionable

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Speaker 2: Thomas joined Alito in his descent. The case was brought

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Speaker 2: by the American Civil Liberties Union, arguing that dozens of

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Speaker 2: Venezuelans faced imminent deportation without an opportunity to plead their

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Speaker 2: along with mass government firings in the wars in Gazian

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Speaker 11: As you know, I joined the Bill Maher program last

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Speaker 11: week and it aired yesterday and our full annotated version

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Speaker 11: will be out tomorrow. And my very good friend Frank

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Speaker 11: Turek took a lot of time, about two hours out

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Speaker 11: we could add on top of it on how we

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Speaker 11: can best defend our faith. Frank, great to see you

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Speaker 11: and thank you for taking the time and happy belated Easter.

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Speaker 30: Yeah, Charlie, you took the right approach with Bill. You

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Speaker 30: were very kind to him. You could have said a

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Speaker 30: lot more, but as you say, when you're on a podcast,

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Speaker 30: somebody else's podcast, you want to give him the benefit

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Speaker 30: of the doubt.

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Speaker 5: You just you want to get a.

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Speaker 30: Few points in, but you don't want to make it

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Speaker 30: a monologue as to why the guy's wrong.

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Speaker 11: Well, thank you, and it was. It was not an

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Speaker 11: interesting environment to be in, to say the least.

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Speaker 1: So let's go to this one.

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Speaker 11: Let me see here, let's go to I don't know

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Speaker 11: if we actually have Okay, let's play cut one twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: I'd love your reaction, Frank, I'm going.

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Speaker 6: To take something that is so anti intellectual, even though

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Speaker 6: I can argue like an.

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Speaker 11: Antil, however, but you have to acknowledge even the greatest

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Speaker 11: minds of history have been mesmerized by the scriptures. Isaac Newton,

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Speaker 11: Thomas aquinas well. Isaac Newton wrote more about biblical prophecy

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Speaker 11: than even physics. And so there's something about the scriptures

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Speaker 11: that are intellectual that does push your limits. And that's

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Speaker 11: what I think is so beautiful about our faith as

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Speaker 11: it can be accessible to everyone, but also infinitely nourishing

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Speaker 11: an exploration. Frank, are the scriptures anti intellectual?

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Speaker 5: No, not at all.

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Speaker 30: In fact, the Bible continually tells us to give reasons

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Speaker 30: for what we believe, and of course even Yahweh in

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Speaker 30: the Old Testament says, come let us reason together. You know, Charlie,

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Speaker 30: one of the things that atheists cannot answer, cannot actually give.

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Speaker 5: A cause for, is reason itself.

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Speaker 30: I mean, if we're just molecules in motion, if we're

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Speaker 30: just molecular machines, if we're nothing but moist robots, which

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Speaker 30: is the common view of most materialists today, most atheists today,

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Speaker 30: then they shouldn't even believe any thing they think because

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Speaker 30: every thought they have is the result of the laws

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Speaker 30: of physics.

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Speaker 5: They're not really thinking, they're reacting.

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Speaker 1: And C. S.

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Speaker 30: Lewis pointed this out brilliantly in so many of his works,

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Speaker 30: that if materialism's true, there's no way to even justify thinking.

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Speaker 30: There's no way to justify reason. And if you can't

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Speaker 30: justify thinking, you can't call a Christian anti intellectual because

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Speaker 30: you haven't, as an atheist even explained our ability to think.

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Speaker 11: And reason, and so Frank. One of the contentions that

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Speaker 11: Bill marmade is that listen, Christianity, it's just a counterfeit

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Speaker 11: of all these other Middle Eastern religions Osiris and all

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Speaker 11: this virgin birth and raise from the dead. This is

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Speaker 11: a story that is appropriated, and Christianity just copied other

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Speaker 11: religions in the Middle East. How would you react to that, Well.

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Speaker 30: We have a whole section and I don't have enough

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Speaker 30: faith to be an atheist about that. It's just not true.

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Speaker 30: Just because it's on the Internet doesn't mean it's true. Okay,

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Speaker 30: about the only dying and right God prior to Christianity

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Speaker 30: was a Cyrus from Egypt, and that wasn't a resurrection

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Speaker 30: into a new body. That was a kind of ethereal

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Speaker 30: resurrection into the underworld. That's not what the New Testament's

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Speaker 30: talking about. In fact, almost all of these supposed dying

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Speaker 30: and rising gods come after Christianity, not before. So if

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Speaker 30: anyone's copying from anyone, it's not Christianity copying from Pagan

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Speaker 30: Resurrection Miss. It's the Pagan Resurrection miss copying from Christianity.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I C. S.

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Speaker 30: Lewis also pointed out, just because you have a parallel

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Speaker 30: between two stories doesn't mean one is copied from another.

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Speaker 30: In fact, there was a there was a ship Charlie.

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Speaker 30: I don't know if you've heard about it. It made

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Speaker 30: its maiden voyage from the UK back in the early

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Speaker 30: nineteen hundreds. It hit an iceberg, a lot of people died,

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Speaker 30: and of course you're going to say, well, Frank, of

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Speaker 30: course that was the Titanic. Well, actually it was actually

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Speaker 30: a novel from I think eighteen ninety eight called The Futility,

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Speaker 30: and it predated the Titanic. Just by chance, nobody would say, well,

1533
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 30: the Titanic story then must be copied from this novel

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01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 30: called Futility. It just happened to be that there were parallels.

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Speaker 30: So parallels don't necessarily prove that one is copying from

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Speaker 30: another anyway.

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Speaker 11: And look, for example, a lot of the religions that

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Speaker 11: overlap with Christianity, the overlap lines up with Christianity's rise,

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01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 11: so they're just copying it. Like in Norse mythology, for example,

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Speaker 11: there's a god Balder who dies and comes back and

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01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 11: creates a paradise after an apocalypse. But almost certainly this

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01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 11: part of the myth was influenced by the spread of

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Speaker 11: Christianity and was written down only in the Middle Ages.

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Speaker 11: Another thing that Bill Maher mentioned in the discussion. And

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Speaker 11: I didn't even know how to process this, I mean

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Speaker 11: in real time, Frank, I knew that this school of

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01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 11: thought existed, but I thought it was only on Reddit

1548
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 11: or discord channel, not in agreed upon high scholarly thinking.

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Speaker 11: Did Jesus Christ actually exist?

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Speaker 1: Frank Turrek that.

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Speaker 30: If there is one or two scholars out of many thousands,

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Speaker 30: Charlie in academia today who study this kind of material,

1553
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 30: And I'm not talking about you know, Bible believing Christians.

1554
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 30: There are atheists or New Testament scholars. If there's one

1555
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 30: or two out there, it's a lot who say Jesus

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Speaker 30: never existed.

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Speaker 4: I mean, think about this, Charlie.

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Speaker 30: Jesus inarguably is the most influential human being to ever

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Speaker 30: walk the earth.

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Speaker 5: How could he possibly have never existed.

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Speaker 30: It would be like somebody two thousand years from now

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01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 30: saying Luke Skywalker is the most influential human being to

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01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 30: ever walk the earth. Nobody two thousand years from now

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01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 30: is going to take a fictitious character and say that.

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Speaker 5: Person is the most influential human.

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Speaker 4: Being on the earth.

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Speaker 30: Not only that, but there are non Christian sources. And

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Speaker 30: you began to talk about this a little bit in

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Speaker 30: your interview with Bill Charlie. You didn't get a chance

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01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 30: to complete the thought. But there are at least ten

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01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 30: ancient non Christian sources within one hundred and fifty years

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Speaker 30: of Jesus's life that mentioned Jesus and or the Apostles,

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01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 30: people like Josephus, Suetonius, Thallas, Flayguy.

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Speaker 11: I forgot, I screwed up Herodotus and Josephus.

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Speaker 1: But thank you.

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Speaker 11: But that's a big one. Remind the audience who Josephus was.

1577
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 11: That's an extra biblical account of Jesus's life, non biblical.

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Speaker 30: Josephus lived from thirty seven AD to about one hundred AD,

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01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 30: and he wrote several books related to the Jews, once

1580
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 30: called Antiquities and others called It's about the Jewish War

1581
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 30: is another one, and he mentioned Jesus.

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Speaker 5: He mentioned John the Baptist.

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Speaker 30: He mentions that James, the half brother of Jesus, is

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Speaker 30: killed as a martyr. He's the pastor of the church

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01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:02,560
Speaker 30: in Jerusalem and he's kild in sixty two AD. The Sanhedrin,

1586
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 30: the Jewish ruling council threw him off the Temple mount

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Speaker 30: and then they stoned him to death.

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Speaker 5: Now this is the same.

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Speaker 30: Guy, by the way, Charlie, who wrote that little book

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Speaker 30: in the New Testament called James. He's also the same

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01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 30: guy who did not believe his brother was God before

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01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 30: the resurrection. But then James had Jesus appear to him,

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Speaker 30: and that's why he converted, and that's why he was

1594
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 30: later executed by the Jews. So Josephus has a lot

1595
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 30: of great information on some.

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Speaker 5: Of the New Testament events.

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Speaker 30: But let me hasten to say this, Charlie, the best

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01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 30: evidence for Jesus is in what we call the New

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01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 30: Testament documents. And you don't have to assume that they

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01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 30: are inspired to get good historical information out of them.

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01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 30: Even atheist like bart Erman, who teaches here where I

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01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 30: am at in North Carolina, unc Chapel Hill, he admits

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Speaker 30: that Jesus existed.

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01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 4: He said, probably one.

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Speaker 30: Of the most attested to facts from ancient Hill is

1606
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 30: the crucifixion of Jesus. Of course, he doesn't believe in

1607
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 30: the resurrection, but there's virtually no scholars out there who

1608
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 30: say Jesus never rose from the dead or I should

1609
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 30: say never existed, which is why when Bill tried to

1610
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 30: say that.

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Speaker 11: It's and the other one, which I didn't quite grasp

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01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:17,640
Speaker 11: And I did find that there was a school of

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01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 11: thought out there that exists, but very fringe. That Paul

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01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,959
Speaker 11: was talking about a spiritual Jesus.

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Speaker 1: That Paul I just thought, I thought my head.

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01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 11: I mean, First Corinthians, he talked about will we will

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01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 11: say that Jesus rose from the dead and that Jesus

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01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 11: appeared to five hundred believers. Where does this come from?

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01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 11: And is there any merit to the argument that Paul

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01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 11: was somehow not connected to or he thought Jesus was

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01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 11: just the spiritual celestial being.

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Speaker 30: No, because Paul makes it very clear that he's talking

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Speaker 30: about a resurrected body, a body that comes out of

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01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 30: the tomb. It would have been easy to say Jesus

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01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 30: resurrected spiritually. Then you wouldn't have to you know, he

1626
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 30: could his body could still be in the tomb, and

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01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 30: you can still say, oh, he resurrect and spiritually.

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01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 5: But that wasn't the case.

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01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 30: Jesus's tomb was empty, and it would have been easy

1630
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 30: to squash Christianity if it wasn't empty, because both the

1631
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 30: Romans and the Jews, who didn't want Christianity to succeed,

1632
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 30: would have gone to the right tomb and taken out

1633
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 30: his body. They didn't do it because his body wasn't

1634
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 30: in there. So no, this was a physical resurrection. And

1635
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 30: that's what made it so crazy to the Greeks because

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01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 30: they didn't think. They didn't think anyone would want to

1637
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 30: have their body raised. They wanted to be liberated from

1638
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 30: the body. So when Paul is talking on on now

1639
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 30: Mars Hill, as recorded in Acts seventeen, and he's bringing

1640
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,480
Speaker 30: up a physical resurrection, these guys over there are incredulous.

1641
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 30: You know, they're going, we don't want that, We want

1642
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 30: to be liberated from the body. No, this was a

1643
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 30: physical resurrection. Christianity only makes sense if that's the case.

1644
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 11: The book is I don't have enough faith to be

1645
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 11: an atheist. And Frank, I want you to sign one

1646
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Speaker 11: for Bill. Next time I see him, I'm going to

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Speaker 11: give him a copy and say you have an obligation

1648
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Speaker 11: to read this bill super quick. About thirty seconds here, Frank,

1649
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Speaker 11: and we have another segment coming up. Remind the audience

1650
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Speaker 11: of the great work that Cross Examine does and plug

1651
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Speaker 11: the book as well.

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Speaker 30: Yeah, absolutely, Cross Examined dot org. We go to college

1653
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 30: campuses as well, Charlie. We're nearly always talking about why

1654
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 30: I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. We're

1655
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 30: giving evidence that Christianity is true. Then we take questions.

1656
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Speaker 30: We have a YouTube channel, cross Examined two words at YouTube,

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Speaker 30: and we also have a podcast called I.

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Speaker 5: Don't have Enough Faith to be an Atheist.

1659
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Speaker 30: So we're going to college campuses, high school's churches, presenting

1660
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Speaker 30: the evidence that Christianity is true and taking a lot

1661
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 30: of questions. We have over twenty five hundred videos on

1662
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Speaker 30: our YouTube channel. Most of them are Q and A

1663
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Speaker 30: videos from the college campus.

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Speaker 11: Frank Stay right there. Frank is a legend. In fact,

1665
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Speaker 11: was not mentioned until three hundred years later. I don't

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Speaker 11: know if you caught this in part of the interview

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Speaker 11: where he said, well, the Holy Spirit's a concept that

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Speaker 11: came hundreds of years later. I actually think I did

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Speaker 11: a pretty good job of interjecting and correcting the record.

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Speaker 11: It's clearly not true. The Spirit is actually mentioned all

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Speaker 11: the way back into the Old Testament, but primarily we

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Speaker 11: see that in the Baptism of Christ our Lord, where

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Speaker 11: it was Jesus Christ, the Spirit came upon him, and

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Speaker 11: God the Father said, this is my son and whom

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Speaker 11: I am pleased. Is there any truth to that, truth.

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Speaker 4: To what you said? What he said?

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Speaker 30: In fact, it's all over the New Testament, and as

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Speaker 30: you mentioned.

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Speaker 4: Even the Old Testament.

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Speaker 30: I mean, the Holy Spirit comes upon the believers at Pentecost,

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Speaker 30: which as one of the most accurate. But I mean,

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Speaker 30: I think all the books are accurate, but the one

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Speaker 30: of the most verifiable books in the New Testament is

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Speaker 30: the Book of Acts, Charlie. And in our book, yeah,

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Speaker 30: you did, because both Luke and written by Luke, and

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Speaker 30: Luke is an historian, a first rank. That was even

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Speaker 30: admitted by an archaeologist by the name of Sir William Ramsay,

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01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 30: who initially was skeptical of luc one hundred years ago.

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Speaker 30: Then he spent twenty years studying Luke, and he said,

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Speaker 30: Luke is an historian, a first rank. And if you

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Speaker 30: go through the Book of Acts, there are eighty four

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Speaker 30: historically eyewitness confirmable details that only an eyewitness or somebody

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Speaker 30: that knew an eyewitness would know. Just in the Book

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Speaker 30: of Acts, Charlie, we list them all. And I don't

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Speaker 30: have enough faith to be an atheist. So the Holy

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Speaker 30: Spirit is all over the documents. And as you pointed

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Speaker 30: out in your rebuttal video or response video that you

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Speaker 30: released earlier today or maybe it was yesterday with Bill Maher,

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Speaker 30: even the I mean, the date of the documents is important,

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Speaker 30: but what's more important are the sources for the documents, Charlie.

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Speaker 30: As you explain, if you were to write a book

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Speaker 30: or I woure to write a book about nine to

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Speaker 30: eleven right now, which is about twenty three years ago,

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Speaker 30: it's more important that I'm interviewing people who saw it.

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Speaker 30: That's more important than the date I'm writing it down

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Speaker 30: right now in twenty twenty five. And that's what goes

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Speaker 30: on with the New Testament.

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Speaker 5: The date.

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Speaker 30: It's the dates of these of these books are written

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Speaker 30: during the lifetime of the eyewitnesses by eyewitnesses or people

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Speaker 30: that knew eyewitnesses, because they proved it by putting data

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Speaker 30: in the text that only an eyewitness would know.

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Speaker 5: But they're actually interviewing people.

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Speaker 30: If they weren't eyewitnesses themselves, like Luke wasn't, they were

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Speaker 30: interviewing people that were there and they're still alive when

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Speaker 30: they're writing it. So this is eyewitness testimony. This material

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Speaker 30: is telling us really what happened. And by the way, Charlie,

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Speaker 30: they had no motive to make it up. They didn't

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Speaker 30: get sex, they didn't get money, they didn't get power.

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Speaker 30: All they got as former believers in Yahweh, just Jewish

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Speaker 30: believers in Yahweh is they got kicked out of the synagogue.

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Speaker 30: They got beaten, tortured and killed. That's why I thought

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Speaker 30: your question when you asked him why would they fake

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Speaker 30: the resurrection was brilliant and he really didn't have a

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Speaker 30: response because there is no answer. Why would they fake

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Speaker 30: this to get themselves abused?

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Speaker 5: They wouldn't.

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Speaker 11: In closing here, Frank, what from my conversation Bill, more broadly,

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Speaker 11: how should Christians share the Gospel? I try to take

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Speaker 11: a more gentle touch. I wanted to develop a relationship

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Speaker 11: with Bill. It was tempting to kind of go all

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Speaker 11: in and go heavy apologetics and a little fingerwat wagging.

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Speaker 11: Just speak as someone who does this for a living.

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Speaker 11: And closing here about a minute half remaining the different

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Speaker 11: approaches that we as believers should bring to unusual circumstances

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Speaker 11: to point towards Jesus.

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Speaker 30: Well, I think both you and I try and take

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Speaker 30: the approach where we don't want to try and own people.

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Speaker 5: We want to gently.

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Speaker 30: Correct them and ask them a lot of questions because

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Speaker 30: we want them walking away going I want to know more.

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Speaker 30: We don't want them walking away from it from a

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Speaker 30: interaction with us to say, oh, man, I hated that guy.

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Speaker 5: He made me look bad. You don't want to do that.

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Speaker 5: You want to try and win people.

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Speaker 30: Look, Charlie, as you know, when somebody asks you a question,

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Speaker 30: you're not just answering a question, you're answering a person,

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Speaker 30: and so you want to provide an opening.

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Speaker 4: For the next conversation.

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Speaker 30: And what I try and ask people is if Christianity

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Speaker 30: were true, would you become a Christian?

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Speaker 5: And Charlie, I've had atheist stand.

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Speaker 30: At the microphone in front of hundreds of people on

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Speaker 30: college campuses and say no because they don't want it

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Speaker 30: to be true. So I think that clears the deck

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Speaker 30: of all the objections they could have. So I always

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Speaker 30: ask that question. You asked a similar question to Bill.

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Speaker 30: You asked him, Hey, do you hope you were wrong?

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Speaker 4: That kind of thing. That's what we need to take.

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Speaker 30: We need to ask people questions, and we shouldn't expect

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Speaker 30: people to agree with us. We should just ask questions,

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Speaker 30: make points, and really highlight grace, Charlie, because grace is

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Speaker 30: what people are looking for. Look, there's only two things

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Speaker 30: you're gonna get right afterlife. You're either gonna get justice

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Speaker 30: or grace. There's no other category.

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Speaker 11: Frank, thank you so much, God us, you my friend,

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Speaker 11: cross examined dot org.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks Jarli, subscribe to our podcast.

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Speaker 11: We'll see you tomorrow at Tech, same university.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much,