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Speaker 1: us a little later. But first, boy, we had a

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Speaker 1: bond burnover game tonight. The Jaguar, the Jaguar. The Jags

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Speaker 1: showed their merit that grit, being down fourteen points, scored

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Speaker 1: twenty one unanswered. The Chiefs come back tied up, but

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Speaker 1: a ball gain A close ball game, a very entertaining,

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Speaker 1: a very great ball game, thirty one to twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, let's go with the Jags first, Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 2: But it was its legs tonight. It seemed like to me.

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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen said, look, when they come with pressure, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, the Jags look really good. Obviously, you know,

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Speaker 4: But listen, Trevor Lawrence said, not that they not on

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Speaker 5: He killed them with it. He killed them with his legs.

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Speaker 5: Make some of the throws that he made.

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Speaker 4: Defensively, that god damn interception, that nine nine interceptions by

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Speaker 2: And then he found the uh he found uh what's

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Speaker 2: his name, O Joe? Uh with it? Washington? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was Washington that ended up catching

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Speaker 1: This is the Trevor Lawrence that they said, okay when

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Speaker 2: I know what you can do because I've seen it

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Speaker 2: first hand. What happened.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the problem is what we saw the Knight from

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence. Where we saw the knight collectively for the Jaguars.

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Speaker 4: This is not the Jaguars of old. This is a

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Speaker 4: new team. What we saw to night is a different

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Speaker 4: type of Jaguars offense. I don't think they've beating the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: It's been a very very long time since nine, you know,

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Speaker 4: so normally a team like this, the old Jaguars team,

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Speaker 4: But they continued to fight despite being down, and they

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Speaker 5: I really impressed, really impressed.

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Speaker 4: If we can get this type of quarterback play from

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Speaker 4: they're gonna be fine. They're gonna be in the hunt.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be in contention every single year if he

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Speaker 4: can continue to play like this but minimize the goddamn

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Speaker 1: Two to to night, and they and they, you know,

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Speaker 1: careful that the Jags pass board games have been decided

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Speaker 1: by total of eighteen points. They're three and one of

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Speaker 1: those games, winning three straight. The Jags are now four

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Speaker 1: cool you talk about Davonte Adams, they can go get it.

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Speaker 1: We know Seattle, you see Sam Donald with JSN. Yes, man,

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Speaker 1: would I be surprised if we see another couple both

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Speaker 1: of those games end up something like this, O shoe No, No,

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Speaker 1: I would not, No, I absolutely would not. But the

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Speaker 1: Jags were very very impressive tonight, and.

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Speaker 2: Do dude ball.

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Speaker 1: Y'all should stand up because y'all got to make it

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Speaker 1: of a very good team. Lim Cohen has done an

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Speaker 2: Gutt it. Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence has always had the ability from the moment

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Speaker 1: I think the last time it happened probably with Jamail Holloway,

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Speaker 1: and then who do they beat? They beat Alabama, and

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Speaker 1: Now, I think the first the first year, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he came. Ain't no, ain't no way. No safety

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Speaker 5: And obviously it's all situations. Yes, you understand.

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Speaker 3: No, don't, don't.

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Speaker 4: And I can tell you what game everybody's gonna be

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Speaker 4: Of course, everybody canna be watching the Bears comt So

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Speaker 1: That'd be like bringing putting friends and everybody Love Raymond

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Speaker 1: Come on, bro, come on the NFL. It's unnecessary. I

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Speaker 5: Watch yeah, watch yeah.

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Speaker 4: Because you have to understand too. You got to look

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Speaker 4: profit by having two games?

439
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Speaker 1: What they're gonna do it They're gonna haved another playoff

440
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Speaker 1: game in the next three to five years that have

441
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Speaker 1: another playoff game, so instead of seven, they'll be eight

442
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Speaker 1: and you know that eighteen game coming. And what they're

443
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Speaker 1: trying to do also is trying to have everybody play

444
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Speaker 1: one game overseas. Now, good luck getting the Cowboys to

445
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Speaker 1: give up a home game. Now, everybody else is gonna

446
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Speaker 1: be more than willing to give up a home game.

447
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Speaker 1: Convince Jarry to give up one of his home games.

448
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Speaker 5: It ain't happen.

449
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 4: It ain't happening because if you give up a home game,

450
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Speaker 4: that's taking away the money.

451
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Speaker 1: I mean, I get I get Jacksonville, I get Cleveland,

452
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Speaker 1: I get some of these teams.

453
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Speaker 2: But right.

454
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Speaker 1: Let everybody, let everybody you know, we try, we try

455
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Speaker 1: to grow. I don't know if football, American football, will

456
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Speaker 1: ever be what soccer is, or ever be what basketball is,

457
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Speaker 1: because nobody grows up wanting to be like Randy Moss

458
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Speaker 1: or wanting to be like Jared Rice or Patrick Mahomes.

459
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Speaker 2: If you and if you in Europe.

460
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Speaker 5: But listen, I understand what you're saying.

461
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Speaker 4: Even we will never I don't think any sport will

462
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Speaker 4: ever touch that of soccer, that of the beautiful. Obviously,

463
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Speaker 4: basketball is another sport that many of them choose to

464
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Speaker 4: play or should be like certain individuals. But the game

465
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Speaker 4: of the game of football, as great as it is,

466
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Speaker 4: continue to grow globally on the other side of the

467
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Speaker 4: world is a good thing for us.

468
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Speaker 5: It's a good thing, oh because obviously not.

469
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Speaker 4: Only do we get to to to expand from an

470
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Speaker 4: economic standpoint, it's good for for other players their brand

471
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Speaker 4: and being able to do things not just here in

472
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Speaker 4: the States, but being able to do things outside of

473
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Speaker 4: the States as well. So in a sense, long term,

474
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Speaker 4: it's a great thing. It's a great thing. But we

475
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Speaker 4: would they will never ever be.

476
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Speaker 5: Able to be what be what soccer is that's because.

477
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Speaker 1: Europeans they play it. They can play soccer. I give you, hmepro.

478
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Speaker 1: What's the likely Africa and the continent of Africa. You

479
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Speaker 1: have Nigeria, you have teams they can play of football.

480
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Speaker 2: Mhm.

481
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Speaker 1: How many guys from Europe go like you know what? Yeah,

482
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Speaker 1: that football thing. I want to be back from home.

483
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: That will be Tom Brady.

484
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Speaker 4: Hey, it would be very difficult. You have to understand too.

485
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Speaker 4: Everybody in your everybody plays soccer. The chances of you

486
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Speaker 4: playing at the highest level the EPL, City I La Liga,

487
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Speaker 4: I mean frenchly that only so many, It's only so

488
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Speaker 4: many spots and everybody does it.

489
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Speaker 5: So like, just think about this.

490
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Speaker 4: I know you don't watch soccer much, but you hear

491
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Speaker 4: the conversations of the comparison between Christiano and Messi. I

492
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Speaker 4: don't think people understand how brilliant and how good these

493
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Speaker 4: dudes are because everybody played this sport and the comparison

494
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Speaker 4: of who the best is of a certain error or

495
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Speaker 4: a certain generation, like that's the cream of the crop.

496
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Speaker 1: And this and we're gonna be the place you come

497
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Speaker 1: to for the World Cup. Oh yeah, but you gotta

498
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Speaker 1: think about it.

499
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Speaker 2: Oo.

500
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Speaker 1: In soccer. Uh MESSI left home. Uh you think about

501
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: Ronaldo left home, Hobbling probably left home. Lewan Dawski probably

502
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: left home. Yeah. Yeah, so it's a difference. But man,

503
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: this game tonight, this game tonight, We've we've been getting

504
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: some very very good games thus far.

505
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Speaker 2: Earth. I know it's earlier. O Yo, it's like week eight,

506
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Speaker 2: Week nine.

507
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Speaker 1: They be like, damn, y'all, couldn't y'all couldn't flex up

508
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Speaker 1: out of this one. I don't think they can flex.

509
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Speaker 1: I think they can only I think Sunday Night is

510
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Speaker 1: the game. But I think they start they're starting to

511
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Speaker 1: allow them to flex out earlier, because you know, ain't

512
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Speaker 1: nobody trying. I understand that they might be this, It

513
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: might be that, but ain't nobody trying in week ten

514
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: trying to see a two team, a two win team

515
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Speaker 1: on no Sunday night or no Monday night or Thursday Thursday.

516
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Speaker 1: You stuck? He stuck because every everybody has to everybody

517
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: has to play.

518
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: You know, at least one Thursday night.

519
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Speaker 5: Game, right right? Huh damn man.

520
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Speaker 1: Out of Monday night Sunday night. Okay, yeah, oh they play?

521
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And that's the thing. It was like, hey,

522
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: Fox and CBS be like, man, we gotta go Boa.

523
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: We got a bar and burner and he said, now

524
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Speaker 1: let me get that one.

525
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Speaker 4: Hey he speaking of speaking of bars ash ash. Who

526
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Speaker 4: is the London game this Sunday?

527
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: Broncos?

528
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Speaker 5: Who they playing?

529
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Speaker 2: Yes?

530
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Speaker 5: Right, yeah, I be. I'll be at that game. I

531
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Speaker 5: be at the game. Matter of fact. What I'm gonna

532
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 5: do is I'm gonna go down on the field.

533
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Speaker 2: An ain't gonahing gonna change.

534
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Speaker 5: Can I tell you who gonna win?

535
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 6: Bronco?

536
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 5: The Jets?

537
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Speaker 2: You hoping.

538
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 5: The Jets?

539
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna get back to that.

540
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Speaker 1: We got a very special guest joining us, one half

541
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Speaker 1: of the m O B He Crew, Hairy of with

542
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: his title album Infinite, My habit?

543
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Speaker 2: What's up?

544
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: Bro?

545
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: Whatever?

546
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 5: What else?

547
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: Was good?

548
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 5: Shity?

549
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? Bag?

550
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: So Infinite? Tell us about the album? What can we

551
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: expect from this?

552
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 7: The Infinite Album is an album that we're putting out

553
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 7: the first time since the passing the Prodigy since twenty

554
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,959
Speaker 7: you know, yeah, he passed away in twenty seventeen. So

555
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 7: this is the first project that mart Thiep was putting

556
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 7: out since his passing.

557
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 6: And me and Alchemist got together put some music together.

558
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 7: Got some prodigy versus some unheard prodigy versus Wow, just

559
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 7: put it, put put it, you know, put it, put

560
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Speaker 7: it together.

561
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Speaker 2: Hey.

562
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Speaker 5: Hey, that's dope.

563
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Speaker 2: Hey.

564
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Speaker 4: One of the things I want to talk to you

565
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 4: about obviously, Mob Deep, I've been been huge fans for

566
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 4: a very long time. When you think about the music

567
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 4: industry and how the sound of music changes every ten years,

568
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Speaker 4: have you thought about when it comes to making music

569
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Speaker 4: and coming out in this era with the sound being different,

570
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: do you change anything or do you stay your authentic

571
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Speaker 4: self based on what your true fans want to hear.

572
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 7: Now, you gotta stay your authentic self because you can't

573
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Speaker 7: alien nature your core base.

574
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, You can't alienate your foundation.

575
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Speaker 2: Man.

576
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Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

577
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 7: Without your foundation, you got nothing. You know what I'm

578
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 7: saying that that it's that quick money. If you try

579
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Speaker 7: to you know, try to be current and try to

580
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 7: be you know what I'm saying, try to be cool,

581
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 7: that's just the quick money. But then you alienate your

582
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Speaker 7: fan base. And mar Deep was never one to alienate

583
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Speaker 7: their fan base. We just we stink with our supporters.

584
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Speaker 1: You feel me, yes, but you don't havoc. It's a

585
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: very fine line because when you do something, they're like, man,

586
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: this the same old, same old, same old, same old.

587
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: You try to give them something new, man, I want

588
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: to hear the old stuff. So how do you how

589
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: do you balance walk this type rope this high wire

590
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: that says, Okay, I'm gonna stay true to who we are,

591
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna add a little flavor so you let

592
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Speaker 1: you know that we we got that we can go

593
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Speaker 1: other places right and still be true to who we are.

594
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Speaker 5: That's true.

595
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Speaker 6: It really is is a fine line.

596
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 7: And it's a fine line in anything that you do,

597
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 7: whether it's music, you know what I'm saying, sports, this, that,

598
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 7: and the third you know what I mean, because you

599
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 7: gotta kind of do change with the times.

600
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Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying.

601
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 7: You know, you gotta stay up to speed, you gotta

602
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 7: stay up with technology, you know what I mean. But

603
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 7: you still got to keep your core values and principles

604
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 7: intact right when.

605
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Speaker 6: You're creating what you're creating.

606
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Speaker 7: So it is it's a tough balancing act and not

607
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 7: a lot of artists could countroll that line.

608
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 6: It's really it makes a breaks artists.

609
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Speaker 2: To be at the end of the day, Yeah, how

610
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: did you? How did you and a pride did you meet?

611
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: We met at high school? We met at high school.

612
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, back in nineteen eighty nine, you know what I mean,

613
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 7: the High School of All Design back in New York.

614
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: Okay, no, and yeah we hit it off.

615
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Speaker 5: Man.

616
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 6: We was like instant friends.

617
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Speaker 2: How did you? I want to know how you came

618
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 2: up with the name mab beat all right?

619
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Speaker 6: So you know, you know, did he want to design

620
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Speaker 6: us back in the day?

621
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

622
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Speaker 6: He wanted to sign and and he was like, yo, man,

623
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Speaker 6: our name was poetical prophets back in the days, you know.

624
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Speaker 7: And then he was like, y'all want to sign y'all man,

625
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 7: but y'all gotta change your name.

626
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 6: So we went back to the drawing board and we described.

627
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 7: We came up with a name that described how we rolled,

628
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 7: you know what I mean when we went out and y'all,

629
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Speaker 7: we was deep and it was a marble.

630
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Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, Yeah, you know what

631
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Speaker 2: I mean.

632
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Speaker 3: Mhm.

633
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 6: And the name the name stuck.

634
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 2: The name stuck from the Queen's Bridge. I mean, hey,

635
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Speaker 2: nods man, y'all got I see I see you in QB.

636
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: I saw you.

637
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: I was like yo, Jungle, I was out there. I

638
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: was like okay, and everybody came out like man, got

639
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: here in the bridge. The bridge okay, yeah, the bridge, Yo.

640
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Speaker 6: You kept you kept in a buck with that one

641
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 6: you kept in the stack.

642
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Speaker 2: I was like you was you was right there to

643
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Speaker 2: think of it all man word a half.

644
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: Most of the time us as fans music fans, we

645
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 4: only get to see the finished product.

646
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Speaker 2: We don't.

647
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Speaker 4: I don't think fans really understand the work that goes

648
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Speaker 4: in when it comes to making an album. You know,

649
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: the hour, the countless hours, the writing, the brain freeze

650
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 4: you get when it comes to the finished product that

651
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: you do have now in the infinite How long did

652
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: it take for you to, for one, come up with

653
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 4: the vision and what you want to do and actually

654
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Speaker 4: completing the album?

655
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Speaker 5: How long did that?

656
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Speaker 3: Know?

657
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Speaker 7: I mean, you know me, they have to pull me

658
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Speaker 7: away from a project to make me stop because I'll

659
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Speaker 7: work forever.

660
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

661
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Speaker 6: I'm like a perfectionist.

662
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Speaker 7: They have to stop me. They be like, chill have

663
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Speaker 7: chill have is done. But with this project, you know,

664
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Speaker 7: with Prodigy in mind, it's like I knew that we

665
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 7: had a job to do and we had to get

666
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 7: it done, you know what I mean, we had unfinished business.

667
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: So this project, I would say.

668
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 6: It took us about a good little year to get

669
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 6: everything right.

670
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 7: And you know, do all these songs, pick the best

671
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 7: songs and just you know, and then and and and

672
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 7: come with a complete project.

673
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 6: So it took about it took about a year. You know.

674
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: Ef MISSD is regarded as one of the best all

675
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: time albums. What do you think if some of the

676
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: things that make an album a classic and make it

677
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: be able to stand the test of time.

678
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 7: You know, what makes an album a classic is to me,

679
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 7: in my mind, is not even knowing that it's a classic.

680
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 7: You know what I mean, You don't you don't even

681
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 7: realize it's a classic. It's just something that it stands

682
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 7: the test of time. You understand what I'm saying.

683
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 6: It can be good, it's good. In the first decade,

684
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 6: it was it was. It came out. The second the

685
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 6: next decade.

686
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 7: It's still popping. And then the third decade, we played

687
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 7: it like it's brand new. We all know albums like that,

688
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 7: like the Chronic you know what I'm saying. Some n

689
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 7: w A projects, you know, a Wu Tang project, you

690
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, Classic albums that we still play

691
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 7: today and our kids just bump into it and they

692
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 7: wasn't even born at the top, you feel me, that's

693
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 7: the classic for you?

694
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, when it's based on some of the classes that

695
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: you just named, who would be outside of yourself, your

696
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 4: group in general, outside of yourself, what would you say

697
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: is the most classic hip hop album that was It

698
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 4: was classic in the eighties or whether it was the nineties,

699
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: whether it's the two thousands, that you could put it

700
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: on in any eraror any generation and it resonates with everybody.

701
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 6: Man, I have to say off the Wall.

702
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, you know, Off the Wall,

703
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson, Off the Wall.

704
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to say, Okay, that's what they have

705
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: for real talk if you just listen. Not not commercial,

706
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: because we know what Thriller was, but I believe Off

707
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: the Wall is Michael Jackson's best.

708
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 6: Work exactly before it got crazy. You know what I'm saying.

709
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: It's like, didn't have the commercial success. It didn't have

710
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: the commercial senses are bad then Now the commercial census

711
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: maybe invincible, right, but boe, y'all better go back and listen.

712
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: Listen off the wall.

713
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 6: Because that was that was his boundation, right, like that

714
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 6: was his foundation.

715
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: And then you know, came with Thriller.

716
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 6: He was like, all right, that's dope, but that.

717
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 5: Was Hey, they have been at you from Queen Bridge.

718
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 5: I know you got to be a huge fan of

719
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 5: battle all day long, all day love. Okay, okay, definitely,

720
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 5: definitely I've been.

721
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: I've been a huge fan of battle rapp Man for now,

722
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: maybe about eight nine years I'm talking about. I done

723
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 4: went back and then my homework when when Tay and

724
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 4: clips and then that's about way back when they first started,

725
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 4: and I caught up.

726
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 5: I caught up to now to where I'm the hugest,

727
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 5: hugest battle bat battle Rap fan. Who would who would?

728
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 5: Who would be your favorite battle Rapper if you had

729
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 5: to take one man?

730
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 7: There's so many, but you know, Polo to Dawn is

731
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 7: one of them that I like, you know what I mean,

732
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 7: I really I've liked him. And when you're dealing with

733
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 7: that battle rap and if you're not acclimated to it

734
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 7: or you want to learn about it, you could go

735
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 7: down a rabbit hole for real, you.

736
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: Know what I mean? Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

737
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: So real yeah, I haven't. You know, look in the

738
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: nineties it started.

739
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: Look it started back in the eighties with the beefing,

740
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: and then it came to the nineties. When you heard

741
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: hit him up and you heard Tupac mention, y'all, what

742
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: did you think, You're like, man, we got to get this, dude, Man,

743
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: I got we got to come out with something.

744
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: We got to send some shops back. Man. Damn, hey, listen, listen.

745
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 6: Hip hop is a contact sport. So we wanted all

746
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 6: the smoke.

747
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: We wanted all the smoke.

748
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 7: He was like, yeah, yeah, come on, give us, give

749
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 7: us some more, right, And you look, look when he

750
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 7: did that.

751
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: You know, I looked at Tupac.

752
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 6: He was like mad things. He had the movie Juice.

753
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 5: You understand what I'm saying.

754
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: So, and then, you know, Tubac was pretty popular.

755
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 6: So we just coming up in the game, trying to

756
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 6: make a name for ourself. So he helped us make

757
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 6: a name for ourselves.

758
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: So, you know, I wasn't you know what I'm saying,

759
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I ain't gonna lie till you have. I

760
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: didn't know.

761
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: I was like, well, damn, he mentioned I said, Well,

762
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: let me go see what we're talking about exactly.

763
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 7: That's that's my point exactly, you know what I mean.

764
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 7: And I think if he was allowed today, we probably

765
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 7: would have been mad cool.

766
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: By now, you know what I mean. So yeah, it's

767
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: all good. Give me some what what do you think

768
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: that the top you you're a writer producer?

769
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: Uh?

770
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: You m C what is?

771
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 6: What?

772
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: Did give me your top five track? You think you produced?

773
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 7: Jump row my top five tracks that I produced? Definitely

774
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 7: gotta say shook once. That's that's you know, Without that song,

775
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 7: where would I be?

776
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 6: Quiet Storm? You know what I'm saying.

777
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 7: Remixed teaturing little Kim crazy even you know one of

778
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 7: her best songs that I that I did even for her,

779
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 7: Uh why that I produced with Jada kiss You know

780
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 7: what I'm saying.

781
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: That's not.

782
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 6: We wor why by Jada kiss H. I would have

783
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 6: to say, uh, let me see.

784
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 7: Oh a joint that I did for Nas called uh

785
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 7: the setup that's for and one called uh the Promise

786
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 7: that I did for Foxy Baum.

787
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, she's.

788
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 6: Killing, she chilling, she she gonna come back out soon.

789
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 6: You know, we be messaging and stuff like that.

790
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: You know, you know what I mean.

791
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 6: But that's my girl?

792
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: He did you did you.

793
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: Did you always want to be in this space? Did

794
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: you always want to be in MC Did you always

795
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: want to write? Did you always want to produce? Did

796
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: you always want to wrap? Or was there something else

797
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: that you wanted to do? But you like, you know what,

798
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: at that point in time, you're like hip hop was

799
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: calling you.

800
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 7: I mean, I wanted to be an architect, so you know,

801
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 7: I went to I went to the School of Art

802
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 7: and Design high school, you know what I mean.

803
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 6: I wanted to be an architect.

804
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 7: I wanted to build things, buildings, but then music just

805
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 7: kind of like took over.

806
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 6: My life when I got into high school, you know

807
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 6: what I mean.

808
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 7: And I come, I come from a place Queensbridge where

809
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 7: we got Molly Maul, you know, saying nahs, mc shan

810
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 7: rock and chante.

811
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 6: So it was like this tradition out there in hip hop,

812
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.

813
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 7: So you know, I got that bug early, the music

814
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 7: bug early, and you know, luckily I was successful at

815
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 7: it because you know, I definitely wanted to be an

816
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 7: architect first before music.

817
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: But you know, the queen Bridge y'all been ballot Mally

818
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: Mall and boogie down with a with k R.

819
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: S One y'all.

820
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: Y'all been ballot for a minute. It all started. It

821
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: all started with y'all.

822
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: I mean it really did.

823
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 7: And when you when you front row to a battle

824
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 7: like that, it puts the fire in your belly. You

825
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 7: feel me, It put that fire in there where you

826
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 7: just like I could do this.

827
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, who this man think

828
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 6: he is coming through trying to diss my hood?

829
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: You feel me?

830
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 7: But I love I love Kris One, you know what

831
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 7: I mean. That's what That's what I'm trying to tell you.

832
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 7: Hip hop or contact sport. You think, y'all think your

833
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 7: dude in football, we we out here going crazy hip hop.

834
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: Hey.

835
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: The funny thing when when you think about hip hop

836
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 4: to the way you describe it it being a contact sport,

837
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 4: the better your penmanship, the harder you hit, right, And

838
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 4: that's that's all they come down to, the better the

839
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 4: pin Man. I don't know, man, I'm I'm a huge, huge,

840
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 4: huge fan of hip hop.

841
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 5: I bet I can't rap. I can't rap. I never

842
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 5: I can. I can talk ship, but I can't rap.

843
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: And it's always been a joy of mind to see

844
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 4: people like yourself, k R. S One and some of

845
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 4: the some of the other artists that I grew up,

846
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 4: grew up watching still doing that thing today and I

847
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 4: just want to say, brother.

848
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 5: I salute you. I salute you. I got I gotta

849
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 5: meet you. Matter of fact, you in New York.

850
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 6: Yes, indeed, I come to New York tomorrow. Pull up,

851
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 6: pull up, I got, I got to pull it up,

852
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 6: pull up. Man it an honor, you know what I mean.

853
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 6: And I thank y'all. Let me on for real.

854
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on one half of Mob Deep

855
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: Habit album titled Infinite with tracks from the late Prodigy

856
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: Bro thank you for joining us.

857
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: We appreciate it continued success. We'll see you down the road.

858
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 6: Thank you, Man East, He's love.

859
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.

860
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon said he apologized to

861
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: the team for the sideline confrontation with Amri d Macaro

862
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: Macardo excuse me, during which Gannon appeared to strike the

863
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: third year running back. Gannon said, I woke up this

864
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: morning and I didn't feel great about it, honestly, so

865
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: in the team meeting, I addressed it. I apologized to Amorri,

866
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: I apologize to the team, and I just told them

867
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: I kind of let the moment of what happened get

868
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: the better of me. Obviously, I try to be emotional state,

869
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: emotionally stable and calme because my job is to solve

870
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: problems during the game and kind of lead the charge

871
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: on that.

872
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 2: So it's really not who I am and I want

873
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: to be. It's not who I want to.

874
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 4: It's really not about that's not who I really am.

875
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 4: When people's emotions are high, logic is low. Like you

876
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: always say, you're a coach understanding that you're probably gonna

877
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 4: lose a game based on a bonehead play that a

878
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 4: player does. You're not thinking about. Okay, I know he

879
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 4: did that, but let me not react. Let me not

880
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 4: react on players. Get coaches five yes.

881
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 5: For situations like you just saw.

882
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: You're right.

883
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 5: I think he is and is well right to be

884
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 5: able to react how he sees fit. Now no public opinion.

885
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 5: You can't do that in this day and age, in

886
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 5: this era. It's okay.

887
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: Sometimes you should be able to chast type a player,

888
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 4: regardless of whether he makes millions of dollars or not.

889
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: There are certain things you should not do in a game.

890
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 4: It's a game of inches. It's a game of inches.

891
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 4: Every play matters that at it. Because of that play,

892
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 4: in that mistake.

893
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 5: You lost the game.

894
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 4: You're gonna put the game out of reach because twenty

895
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 4: eight to six. Hey, listen, I understand him. He has

896
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 4: to apologize. Obviously, the era I grew up in, that's

897
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 4: the way. That's the way they for sure, that's the

898
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 4: way they handled us. It's not it's frowned upon today

899
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: in today's game regards to what level of football you play.

900
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: But you had that happened. That was never a thing.

901
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 2: I don't remember that ever happened.

902
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: Had you had you did a play like that when

903
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: I was growing up, you wouldn't have made it to

904
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: the sideline.

905
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: Code would have grabbed you by your face mask and.

906
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 4: Man, listen, And I asked you this every time a chat.

907
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 4: Let me know, chat if you ever saw this. Think

908
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: about I think about Miami. I think about Liberty City,

909
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: the inner city where I grew up. The way the

910
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: high schools, uh, the Optimist clubs, and the way the

911
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 4: coaches coach, and I think one of the reasons why

912
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 4: we are all so great and so many of us

913
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: come out of our area and flourish at the highest

914
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 4: level despite circumstances, despite obstacles. It's because of us becoming

915
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 4: numb to the way we're the way we're coached, as

916
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 4: hard as it is, and being used to the cursing

917
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 4: and the hollering, especially in precious situations.

918
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 5: We're already built for it. We're already built for it.

919
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 5: The documentary I asked you about a while ago called

920
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 5: The Year of the Bull.

921
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 4: You never did Year the Bull, Huh. It's a documentary

922
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 4: on Miami Northwestern. The way the coaches were back then

923
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 4: and the way they coached some of those teams unbelievable. Chad,

924
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: I don't know if any of you saw The Year

925
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 4: of the Bull, the documentary about Miami Northwestern where Teddy

926
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 4: Bridgewater went. A lot of NFL players that are in

927
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 4: the league now and former NFL players. It's a reason

928
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 4: why they're so great. It's a reason because they're not baby.

929
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 4: They're not they're not pampered when it comes to plan

930
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 4: the position, I mean, the sport of football, and at

931
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 4: times it's needed because you look, you look at some

932
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 4: of the mistakes.

933
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 5: That that we make.

934
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 4: To day, parents, you can't scold your kids, you can't

935
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 4: beat your kids the way you used to.

936
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 5: It's frowned upon some of the mistakes and kids and

937
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 5: being out of control.

938
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 4: Back then, Yeah, it was a village. It was you

939
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 4: wasn't getting away with some of that stuff. Today, I'm

940
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 4: in the grocery store. I'm hearing kids cussing at day mama,

941
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 4: Like what you I don't want I don't fucking want

942
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: to do it? What when we go we going in

943
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 4: the store, your mama tell you getting out of the car,

944
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 4: we going to the store, don't ask me for shit.

945
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 4: Don't touch ish and don't touch nothing. And when you're

946
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 4: going to stow, you're gonna do two things. You're not

947
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 4: gonna touch nothing and you ain't gonna asking for nothing.

948
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 4: Now what you might do, You might sneak something, sneak

949
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 4: something the buggy and hope she paid for it when

950
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 4: she pull everything out.

951
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 5: When you get to the resist them man.

952
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: Not mayor porter, mayor porter, go say take that ish

953
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: back where you got it from? It did it? Didn't go?

954
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: Hit you outside your head?

955
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: Say I told you not to put nothing in my

956
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: bugget Now my grandma reads here, that was a whole

957
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: different story. See like grandparents, Oh, Joe, we stayed with

958
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: Mary and Barney, so my other grandparents, my Dad, Mommy

959
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: and father. They didn't see us that much. So what

960
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna do? Give us whatever we want. Soon as

961
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: we hit the door, Papa drop us off. Granted to

962
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: Willim and Grandma child and we call it Charlie had

963
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: go them boys. Oh Joe, I got my little bag.

964
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: Soon as I hit the dough granb my child. Can

965
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: we go to the grocery store?

966
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: All right?

967
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: Uh?

968
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 4: Uh uh?

969
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: William granted to William load the cob hot dogs, hot

970
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: hot dog buns, honey buns, potato chill soda, cause all

971
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: she drank with tab soda. I don't know if anybody

972
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: remember old enough to remember tab in that pink can

973
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: issue with nasty. But boy, man, if she said, well,

974
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the store later. Here, here's a

975
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: dollar for you and spanking give me a dollar before

976
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: we hit that door. Store probably like fifty by fifty yards.

977
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, but Mary Porter, we going on Saturday, because

978
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: really that's the only time we went shopping Saturday. Maybe

979
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: maybe like a Friday afternoon. Papa would take us.

980
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: We go pick up.

981
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: Granted, she had to got paid. She gonna go get

982
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: cash your check and then we'll go. But we already know.

983
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: Why don't you put the blood please?

984
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: But you're right, o Cho, like there was a I

985
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: don't know, and maybe maybe because it was always that way, Ocho,

986
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: But we didn't have the internet. Everything wasn't film. So

987
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: maybe kids were just as respectful the disrespectful then as

988
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: they are now. It's hard for me to believe that,

989
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: but I just know from what I saw. But them

990
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: parents ain't play that. The parents ain't play that.

991
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 7: Now.

992
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: Every once in a while you might see, you know,

993
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: the white people, they they were a little bit more Okay, okay, mom,

994
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it.

995
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: But the black kids, blood please matter. They ain't play that.

996
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: Wherever Mary Porter said, whoever you sho show out.

997
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 5: You get woe out, gonna get matters.

998
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: It didn't matter walking on the street.

999
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 5: It didn't matter. You're gonna get it. You're gonna get

1000
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 5: it right right now. Hold on, hold on, I'm thinking

1001
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 5: I'm slick.

1002
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 4: You know when when it's a senior quiet time at

1003
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: my grandma at church and she see me acting up

1004
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: in the pew, she ain't got to do nothing.

1005
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 5: Look at you, just just there and you already know that.

1006
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 4: Man, Come on, man, the saying it takes a village.

1007
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, man, the days back then, man, in

1008
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 4: the eighties, in the early nineties, and the people ain't playing. Nah,

1009
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 4: people don't play. You' cana act up. Well, don't make

1010
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 4: me call your grandma.

1011
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: My grandma would have been twill good o Joe, my

1012
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: grandma being my grandma be in church. I started crying already. No,

1013
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: she says, you're gonna cut my tail already, know, she.

1014
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 4: Said, oh Joe, hey, hey, listen, hold on. My grandma

1015
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 4: used to come on my arm and pinch. She had

1016
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 4: pinched my arm, twisted, twist, and then you know you're

1017
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: so young.

1018
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: Once you start.

1019
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 5: Crying, you're crying out loud.

1020
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: She's writing that purse she give me either that Butterscot's

1021
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 4: candy or peppermint to get me to get quiet.

1022
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: Oh days, but see we getting the butterscots that's already

1023
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: out the wrap. We got got everything or got a

1024
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: penny stuck to it? Can we get some candy with

1025
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: the wrapper? Did you give you that butterscotch? That that

1026
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: pippermint that got lian on it. It got a little

1027
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: cotton fuzzy itin' got a penny or dime stuff to it.

1028
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: I was like, get here, hold on.

1029
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 5: Hey, y'all, y'all had y'all had the candy with the

1030
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 5: strawberry m Yes, you know what, listen boy.

1031
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: But but but to get back on this football face,

1032
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: it's different, and I get out sometimes what I mean

1033
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: that some some coaches that was abusive what they did.

1034
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: Obviously you can't coach like that. But that's why, that's

1035
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: why it would be hard for me to coach Ojo

1036
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: because you know better. You've seen it. You just saw

1037
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: last week Mitchell do it and it cost himself a

1038
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: seventy six yard touchdown.

1039
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: And if they lost the game, I think too, didn't

1040
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: it didn't they lose to the Rams.

1041
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 5: The Coast.

1042
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: Didn't the coach lose that game with Mitchell bobbed it?

1043
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 5: I'm not sure I think they did.

1044
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they lost to the Rams, Ojo, So you've seen

1045
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: it happen, but yet you still doing it.

1046
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 4: I just like, like he like the one hundred meters,

1047
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 4: anybody that breaks it open from now on, cross through

1048
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 4: the line. You should pretend like you're running a hundred

1049
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 4: because you're not. You're not gonna slow up before you

1050
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 4: cross that line. The same thing in football, cross that line,