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Speaker 1: All right, Dana White is around the corner. But first,

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Speaker 1: Jamack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with your boy bo Nix, who had a

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Speaker 3: brutal Week one. I mean, listen, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: hammer the guy too are, but he turned it over

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Speaker 3: three times and looked pedestrian. Sean Payton knows sometimes it's

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Speaker 3: just about getting through Week one.

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Speaker 4: I thought he hung in there, he battled, made some

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Speaker 4: critical place for us in the second half, and so

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Speaker 4: obviously he'll be disappointed with the turnovers, but uh, you

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Speaker 4: know there there was a gutsy performance, you know, and

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Speaker 4: we got a pretty usual week one.

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Speaker 1: For the record. One of the interceptions was a throw

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Speaker 1: to Courtland Sutton. It was just a great play by

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Speaker 1: the dB. Oh, it was a great It was a

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Speaker 1: go either way.

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Speaker 5: Play.

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Speaker 1: Not every interception just terrible decision.

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Speaker 3: Are you seeing this line?

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Speaker 5: Come on, Broncos Colts?

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Speaker 1: How are the Broncos underdogs here?

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Speaker 2: You're a playoff team?

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Speaker 5: The culture garbage?

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Speaker 2: What am I missing?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Broncos is my second favorite number on the board. Bow

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Speaker 1: Nix is not.

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Speaker 3: Losing to this Colts defense That confounded to a no.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 3: I think Bronco's body bag Colts here, well, I think

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Speaker 3: they beat them, but not Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: Not every interception is a bad throat. Brock Purtty has

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Speaker 1: had throws. I mean, not just just throw Brock pretty up,

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Speaker 1: but if you up the fumble, no.

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Speaker 5: I'm no, I'm but not.

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Speaker 1: Every turnovers, I mean a terrible throat bow Nicks. One

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Speaker 1: of the picks was a throat at Courtland Sutton. It

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Speaker 1: was a jump ball.

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Speaker 3: Can you apply that to rock Pety please?

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Speaker 1: His winning touchdown, by the way, as you said, was

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Speaker 1: an anticipatory throw. There was nobody open.

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Speaker 3: Let's move on to another AFC West team.

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Speaker 2: The Raiders.

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Speaker 1: They beat the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: But the bad news is Brock Bowers went out.

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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll just said at the podium they're taking it

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Speaker 3: day to day, but it helps them that they have

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Speaker 3: a Monday night football matchup with the Raiders. Raiders against

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Speaker 3: the Chargers on Monday Night football, so that's an extra

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Speaker 3: day for Rock Bowers. They listen, they need him calling

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Speaker 3: if they want to take down the way you sees.

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Speaker 1: There's an argument he's the best tight end right now

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, who's the only second year tight end?

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Speaker 1: He is an un when you can spread a tight

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Speaker 1: Kese right now. Yes, absolutely. If I can dig the Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: Final story, Colin is the Seattle Seahawks lost to the

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Speaker 3: Niners in a tough one. Your boy Sam Donald fumbling late.

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Speaker 3: The only bright spot on the offense was Jackson Smith,

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Speaker 1: Jack's made a lot of great plays.

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Speaker 3: There's more opportunities for him out there, which I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll tell you. And we're going to count

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Speaker 3: See who steps up so we can It's not the

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Speaker 1: I will say this if you didn't watch the game,

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Speaker 1: Seattle was driving in the red zone for the win

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Speaker 3: Oh and they had two hundred and thirty yards of offense.

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Speaker 3: What is good about that against a rebuilt nine Ers?

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Speaker 1: Dare First of all, they're rebuilding. They rebuilt Saul is

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Speaker 1: So like not everybody in Week one is week eight performer.

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Speaker 3: And the Cooper Cup was terrible at a couple drops.

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Speaker 3: They just don't have any offense outside of JSN and

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Speaker 1: Brown Philadelphia to Seattle, No, I mean I why not?

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Speaker 1: Although they just moved off a very dramatic, expensive wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Any thoughts on Seahawks at Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I would take I would take Seattle plus free.

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Speaker 5: I'm an agreement there totally.

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Speaker 1: J Mack with the News, well that's the news, and

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Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by the herd Line news. Well, he

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Speaker 1: has been one of the mavericks in sports, certainly in

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Speaker 1: the last twenty years UFC president and CEO. He's now

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Speaker 1: so iconic. He's doing Dodge Ram commercials. I saw that

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Speaker 1: last night. Our friend Dana White is joining us here

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Speaker 1: on a Tuesday in the herd. Longtime, no talk. It's

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Speaker 1: great to see you again. And you major s mean,

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Speaker 1: most of these commissioners, you don't already want to hear

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Speaker 1: yourself out there with any all time. It could be politics,

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Speaker 1: imagine it's been good for your business.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Business is good. Yeah, yeah, business is very good.

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Speaker 1: So your entire in my entire life, boxing has been

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Speaker 1: I also go to your fights. But when you made

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Speaker 6: Well, the world is changing now, I mean, you know

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Speaker 6: And I was waiting for the moment I knew that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so you are now doing You're promoting

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Speaker 1: you grew up in Boston. I was a boxing guy

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Speaker 6: I mean every time you think that boxing's dead, a

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Speaker 6: So I'm promoting this Crawford fight this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Probably the best fight in five to six years. I

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Speaker 1: He's a four division champion yep, never been knocked down.

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Speaker 6: I love this fight and the fact that Crawford is

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Speaker 6: I love this fight. I forgot where the hell I

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Speaker 1: The difference promoting UFC and boxing, no real difference.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, as long as you're putting up

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Speaker 6: And basically that's what I want to do with boxing too.

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Speaker 6: like the undercard of Canelo versus Crawford, the undercard is excellent,

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Speaker 6: Like the UFC, when you know, people show up for

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Speaker 1: Well, Nick conn who you know very well, and you

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Speaker 1: Dana White, both are in the business of accumulating talent

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Speaker 1: and finding before the rest of the market moves. And

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Speaker 1: I have a little podcast company. We do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: It's exhilarated. There's nothing better than share somebody's ride. But

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Speaker 1: a Mark. I think it's Andreesner Anderson and really smart guys,

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Speaker 1: Amazon didn't make money the first twenty years is that

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Speaker 1: I don't think people understand you had a lot of headwinds.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at one point UFC John McCain wanted it

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Speaker 1: I don't think people understand how hard it is. Was

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Speaker 1: went you had the fatidas behind you. Was there ever

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Speaker 5: To get it?

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Speaker 1: What was the point that was hardest for Dana White?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's been pretty remarkable when you you know,

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Speaker 6: No, I wouldn't say that. But and especially the sport

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 6: Trump and I have been friends for you know, twenty

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Speaker 6: This guy's my friend. It's been my friend forever. So

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Speaker 1: Have you and Trump have something in common? You don't

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Speaker 1: So when you you know this, this fight this weekend's allegiant. Okay, Yes,

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Speaker 1: And I think ideally you'd like to be in Vegas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the world is wide open for you. See, we

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Speaker 1: The way, I was in Nello Crawford. Okay, So I

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Speaker 6: I think that you know, Crawford has taken this fight

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean it's I am a regular US

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Speaker 1: dealing with industry leaders, a lot of alphas, very aggressive people.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when's the last time you were blown away?

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Speaker 6: Well, let me tell you this. I got the answer

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Speaker 6: to that question. So Mark Zuckerberg reached out to me

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Speaker 6: and asked me to be on the board of Meta.

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Speaker 5: Right now.

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Speaker 6: I would never imagine that I would want to be

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Speaker 6: on the board of anything, but when you look at

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Speaker 6: Meta as a business and a company, when you go

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Speaker 6: in to one of these board meetings and they start

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Speaker 6: at like eight thirty in the morning, and first of all,

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Speaker 6: the board of Meta, just the people they have on

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Speaker 6: there are all just absolutely brilliant and badass. And when

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Speaker 6: Zuckerberg comes in and starts running this meeting, I am

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Speaker 6: literally on the edge of the seat the whole time

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Speaker 6: listening to changing the world, what they're doing and the

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Speaker 6: level that they're doing it at. What blew me away

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Speaker 6: is that I would be so into you know, this

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Speaker 6: thing starts at eight thirty in the morning and we

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Speaker 6: end at five point thirty at night. These board meetings,

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Speaker 6: and he's got every minute dialed in. He knows everything

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Speaker 6: about the company inside and out. His cfoh, his CFO

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Speaker 6: is unbelievable. She's brilliant, and she comes in and goes

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Speaker 6: toe to toe with the Wall Street guys. It's it's

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Speaker 6: absolutely fascinating and one of my favorite things to do,

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Speaker 6: which I would never in a million year's dream I

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Speaker 6: would be that into it.

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Speaker 1: Well, Congress, on that you you are known as an

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Speaker 1: aggressive is it poker or twenty one?

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Speaker 5: What do you play? Well, I'm playing baccarat these days,

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Speaker 5: and you're aggressive.

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Speaker 1: I'm aggressive and you just walk in and you're going

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Speaker 1: for it. Is there any casino that has said, Dana,

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Speaker 1: you're too good, there's too much money, our margins are slim.

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Speaker 6: That's not that I'm too good, But what they do

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Speaker 6: is I have a style where I come in and

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Speaker 6: I want to bet as much. I want to bet

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Speaker 6: a million dollars a hand. I'm working on it right

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Speaker 6: now with MGM. MGM might actually let me do this. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and one night, me and me and Michael Ruben so

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Speaker 6: fanatics and yeah, so he and I together one night

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Speaker 6: only a million dollars a hand. Working on that right now,

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Speaker 6: on that deal.

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Speaker 1: Oh, were you always a risk taker? Is this just

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Speaker 1: who you are?

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Speaker 5: Ye? I guess yeah, that's who you are?

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Speaker 1: So again, allegiant. You have two events? You have one

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Speaker 1: in San Antonio on one in Vegas?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Which one needs you more?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I think they listen. The UFC is a well oiled machine.

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Speaker 6: We go every Saturday. What I'm looking for on Saturday

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Speaker 6: Night for Canelo Crawford is you know, I can tell

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Speaker 6: you right now, the television production will be amazing, It'll

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Speaker 6: be perfect, it'll be great. What I'm looking for is

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Speaker 6: the live event. You know, we're in a stadium, which

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Speaker 6: I don't love stadium fights because I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 6: you're watching two ants fight on a matchbook, right, So

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Speaker 6: we have to make sure that the people do not

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Speaker 6: have that experience. They have a much better experience live VIP.

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Speaker 6: You know, you get to your seats, you know your

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Speaker 6: ticket in and they get you right in, sit you down.

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Speaker 6: I want everything to go smooth with the live event.

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Speaker 6: You know, when you think about the live event, people

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Speaker 6: fly in from around the world in other states. They

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Speaker 6: have to get a hotel room, they bought tickets, they

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Speaker 6: got to pay for the restaurants. It's expensive. So I

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Speaker 6: always it's a big deal to me that the live event,

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Speaker 6: the people who show up have an amazing experience. I

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Speaker 6: went to a boxing match a few years ago and

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Speaker 6: it was a horrible experience, So that's a big deal

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Speaker 6: to me.

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Speaker 1: On Saturday, Vegas has struggled year to year, last several years.

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Speaker 1: I've got my beliefs. Why how does Vegas turn it around?

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Speaker 1: They have not been on a good two to three

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Speaker 1: year role economic that's.

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Speaker 6: Total bs man. You know this whole narrative right now

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Speaker 6: about Vegas. Vegas is always doing well. Vegas has booming.

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Speaker 6: This weekend, there's going to be over sixty thousand people

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Speaker 6: coming in for this fight in Vegas. And that's just

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Speaker 6: one event. You know, Bruno Mars plays there all the time.

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Speaker 6: His show is great, His show is incredible actually, and

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Speaker 6: many many other things to do Invegas. So everybody's always

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Speaker 6: counting Vegas out. That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: The restaurant. I always say this, if you you know,

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Speaker 1: when I got to Vegas, I was out of college,

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Speaker 1: it was like eighty six eighty seven, the rebels, Jerry

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Speaker 1: Tarcani and Steve Winn. You didn't have pro sports. There

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Speaker 1: was a stigma that was all nonsense. I said that

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Speaker 1: for years, UFC didn't exist. There were boxing matches. It

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Speaker 1: was it was Don King and Bob aarm. But I

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Speaker 1: used to you know, I used to always say this

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Speaker 1: is people don't understand how good of a food town

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Speaker 1: it is, because everything starts in Vegas so true. It's

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Speaker 1: like every great restaurant that ever franchises, and I mean

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Speaker 1: the high end stuff. If I said to you, you're

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Speaker 1: going to Vegas for a weekend, You're lucky. You just

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Speaker 1: got a bonus at work. Somebody's watching this that you

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Speaker 1: can fly in to watch Canelo alve resident Crawford and

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Speaker 1: you can have one meal in Vegas. Where would you eat?

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Speaker 5: Carbone? Oh, the Italian Place. Yeah, it's incredible.

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Speaker 6: That's in incredible, always consistent, the services off the charts,

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Speaker 6: and if you have to wait, they got a great

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Speaker 6: bar too. It's a great restaurant. I love Carbones. But

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Speaker 6: like you know, when I was growing up in Vegas

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Speaker 6: and when you were there, you know, Vegas was buffets

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Speaker 6: or you know, ninety nine cent breakfasts and things like that.

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Speaker 6: Now it's all the best restaurants in the world. There,

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Speaker 6: the best restaurants, the best shopping.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: Now now there's live sports there, you know, and when

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Speaker 6: people are talking about Vegas, the Raiders are playing again,

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Speaker 6: so you know all their home games are going to

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Speaker 6: be sold out and packed and people coming in from

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Speaker 6: all over the country. And if you're if you're a

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Speaker 6: fan of the Patriots. Right, and there's an away game

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Speaker 6: that you're.

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Speaker 5: Going to go to. You're going to the Vegas away

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Speaker 5: So we said for years, you're flying.

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Speaker 6: On Thursday, you know, have a blast, go to the

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Speaker 6: game on Sunday and then fly home.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that was, I know what. You were

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Speaker 1: torn Vegas against New England.

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Speaker 5: Who are you rooting? I'm not torn at all. It's Newland. Okay,

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Speaker 5: I'm not torn at all. You know we've lost. We've

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Speaker 5: just lost Sunday to the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Oh you do you know Vrabel?

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Speaker 5: No, we'll go.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's a butt kicker.

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Speaker 5: Yeah I heard.

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Speaker 1: Oh there's no nonsense with Rabel, sharp as attack.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm close to Max Crosby, so if we're gonna

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Speaker 6: get beat anybody, at least it's Max gros.

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Speaker 1: Nobody better in the league than Max Fross. Love the

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Speaker 1: great guy. Hey, congrats, we'll be watching the fight. Haven't

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Speaker 1: seen you in a while. You look fantastic, man. We're

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Speaker 1: doing Okay, back in a second, it's to hear.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Eastern a Empacific.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. Thanks to Dana White, who stopped

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Speaker 1: by today we appreciate that. And Nick Right, as always

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Speaker 1: was funny, so you know it circling back to Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 1: you know, the two things are true. He has a

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Speaker 1: lot of talent and you know, strength and movement and

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Speaker 1: power arm that throw to room Adonze it was like

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Speaker 1: ninety nine miles. You know it was a heater. But

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Speaker 1: he misses the strike zone a lot, and I thought

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Speaker 1: the more he got off script, the more he struggled.

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Speaker 1: So again, Brian Flores and the Vikings are a web

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Speaker 1: above average defense. I mean, Denver's defense is probably better,

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Speaker 1: but I mean Buffalo's isn't Philadelphia's. I thought. I thought

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Speaker 1: both Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens found all sorts of

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Speaker 1: space in the secondary, so Minnesota could have a top

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Speaker 1: two or three defense. And he was ten for ten

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Speaker 1: in the first drive and creates problems, but and didn't

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Speaker 1: have a pick six like JJ McCarthy did. But here's

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Speaker 1: Nick Right earlier on what he watched last night.

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Speaker 8: He really struggles with the operation still and the getting

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Speaker 8: out of the huddle motioning guys a little too late

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Speaker 8: like the pre snap stuff. He still looks like a rookie,

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Speaker 8: and this is year two I still believe in Caleb

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Speaker 8: Williams's long term, but I think it is going to

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Speaker 8: be a much slower process than I had hoped.

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Speaker 1: And I will say bow Knicks struggled with some of

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Speaker 1: the mechanics of the Denver offense. So I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you go look at the young guy, Drake May struggled.

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy struggled for three quarters. Bow Knicks struggled. A

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Speaker 1: cam Ward was good but didn't have much to work with.

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Speaker 1: I thought Michael Pennix was very good. I thought Jayden

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Speaker 1: Daniels was good. So I think you get a mixed

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Speaker 1: bag with young quarterbacks. And for the record, I thought

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams in the first half was pretty good. And

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Speaker 1: the other thing, he wasn't lured into interceptions like he

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Speaker 1: was dropping it underneath. But I did think in the

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Speaker 1: second half, especially that first series, you were watching Ben

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Speaker 1: Johnson's body language, He's swearing on the headset. I thought

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Speaker 1: he had a really bad opening series in the second

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Speaker 1: half and I thought it had affected his confidence. So

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Speaker 1: with young quarterbacks again, with Tom Brady, you can do it.

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Speaker 5: Pick six.

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Speaker 1: He didn't care, he didn't lose his confidence. JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 1: hit that big throw to Justin Jefferson early in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. He came out and hit that throw and

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Speaker 1: like his body lane uage his velocity, his confidence flipped.

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Speaker 1: And so for young quarterbacks, it just takes one mistake

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Speaker 1: or one great throw and things changed. That's very much

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield early in his career. Again, Baker and Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold and Gino Smith, they're veterans now they're more settled in.

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Speaker 1: But your first three or four years in the league,

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Speaker 1: half to half series, the series it ebbs and flows.

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Speaker 1: And I remember once this was long, long time ago,

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Speaker 1: and we know how obsessed Tom Brady was. Jay Glazer

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Speaker 1: was interviewing him during a camp and Brady said, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm in year you know blank fourteen. He goes, I've

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Speaker 1: seen every defense now, I mean, Mahomes admitted it wasn't

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Speaker 1: until year three when everything slowed down. So if you

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Speaker 1: just take year one out, it was a disaster in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Take year one out. Let's pretend this was the first

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Speaker 1: game with a competence staff and an offensive coach. You

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Speaker 1: would say, first half was pretty good. They led seventeen

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Speaker 1: to six. But man, that he missed some easy stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, you would say about JJ McCarthy. He

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Speaker 1: was terrible for three quarters and then he caught fire.

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Speaker 1: Whereas JJ was awful and then great. Whereas Caleb was

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Speaker 1: like pretty good into pretty bad. He was more in

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Speaker 1: the middle. Ten was JJ McCarthy, One was JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Caleb was more four through seven, four through six. And

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Speaker 1: so they grow. And now Caleb goes against the Detroit

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Speaker 1: defense where there is no Brian Flores and it's not

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Speaker 1: as good a personnel, and Detroit, you know, has got

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Speaker 1: their own offensive issues they're concentrating on. There's no Aaron Glenn.

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Speaker 1: My take is Caleb Williams probably in week two looks

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Speaker 1: a little better, looks a little cleaner, and things are

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Speaker 1: a little easier off script. And I don't think JJ

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Speaker 1: McCarthy next game looks like he did in the fourth quarter.

656
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 5: That was magic.

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00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: He won't looked like he did in the first, but

658
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: he won't look like he did in the fourth. All right,

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00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: we are done. I'll be joining you from Chicago tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: It's the hurt