1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: All right, second hour of Clay and Box starts right now. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here with us, everybody, and last week 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: you will recall with far more important stories in our site. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: The suspension important word there. Suspension of Jimmy Kimmel, an 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: unfunny late night comedy host, became a cause among Democrats. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Republicans are embracing cancel culture, the First Amendment, all this stuff. 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: I have a few thoughts on this because, first of all, 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: the latest reporting is that Disney is considering bringing him back, 9 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: so this would be a suspend. That's why the suspension 10 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: versus cancelation is a very interesting part of the conversation. 11 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: I would also add that Clay, the whole oh my gosh, 12 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: the FCC, all that, all that stuff that we were 13 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: hearing last week, Well, if they're just going to bring 14 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: him back, what does that mean about all that FCC talk. 15 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: It means that it was Disney's decision in the first place. 16 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: Disney's decision in the last place. It is a private 17 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: company that is making this choice. Uh. Now, I wonder 18 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: what they're going to do here. And Clay, you understand 19 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: that I want you to lay this out for everybody, 20 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: because I don't I don't follow the machinations of corporate 21 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: of the of the corporate suite of media as closely 22 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: as as you do. Right then, the mergers and acquisitions 23 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, Uh, you know who owns who? 24 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: I still I have to remind myself who owns NBC again? 25 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: And who bought Paramount? And where's Viacom in all this? 26 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: And Discovery Channel is what? And you know these things 27 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: are always in flux. You have a very good handle 28 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: on that. You follow that stuff pretty closely. Before we 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: get into that, I would just point out though the 30 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: the oh my gosh, Jimmy Kimmel has been canceled. We 31 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: should all be so upset about this. And of course 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert and others were jumping on this bandwagon. The 33 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: guy from Ozark I saw him saying something about it. 34 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: What's his name Bateman, right, the actor Jason Bateman. Jason 35 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: Bateman is actually I think he's a very good actor. 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: So it's always kind of a bummer when you see 37 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: somebody like, can't you just be the good actor and 38 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: not say the dumb things? But he spoke out on 39 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: They say, oh, look, people allowed to speak out on it. 40 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm just glowed to say, I, I don't care and 41 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: their opinions are irrelevant. But Douglas Mackie, I'm not sure 42 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: who this fellow age? You see this? He put out 43 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: on Twitter? This one very viral Clay, I'm sorry, I 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: must have missed it. I haven't caught up in the 45 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: latest news. Did PayPal canceled Jimmy Kimmel's personal account, did 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: Chasin Bank of America shut down his account? Did Twitter 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: ban him? Did Facebook suspend him? Did Stripe shut him down? 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: Did the FBI open up an investigation into him? Did 49 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 1: protesters force him to evacuate his studio? Did they chase 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: him to his house and force him to evacuate that too? 51 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: Is there an entire ideology centered around the idea that 52 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel can be allowed to speak anymore? Et cetera, 53 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: et cetera. He went into all of this, and I 54 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: just say, yeah, their version of cancelation versus the so 55 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: called right wing version of cancelation are also very different things. 56 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: But you tell me there's more going on here even 57 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: than just is Jimmy Kimmel an unfunny jerk? Yeah? 58 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 2: My basic takeaway here is unless you advocated for Roseanne 59 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: Barr and unless you advocated for Gina Carano and I'm 60 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: specifically referencing Disney corporate decisions based on speech, then I 61 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: don't want to hear a word from you about Jimmy Kimmel. 62 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: Now I advocated aggressively for Roseanne bar I don't think 63 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: anybody should be canceled for a tweet. I really don't 64 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: in the creative space, because I think it blows up 65 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: eventually on all of us. I even defended a guy 66 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: that I think is a total war on, Keith Olberman, 67 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: that has said all sorts of crazy things in my 68 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: opinion about Charlie Kirk, and I defend this company iHeart, 69 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: which says, hey, we want to put out every single 70 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: type of audio known to man, just like in music. 71 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: I mean, leave aside political opinions. Some of you may 72 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: really care a ton about rap music, others of you 73 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: hate it, some of you love country music, some of 74 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: you love classical music. 75 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: I Heart provides it all right. We should. 76 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: I think the company give everybody every option out there, 77 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 2: a big buffet of audio choices, and you should be 78 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: able to dive into it, even if I think people 79 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: like Keith Olberman or moronic and I think on his podcast, 80 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he called me a white supremacist. 81 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: You can say a lot sure he's called me. He's 82 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: called me tug sex butt, which is very mean exactly 83 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: to his credit. That's actually pretty funny. 84 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: But my point on it is, even inside of the 85 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: same company, there are people that are taking shots at us, 86 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 2: and I'm totally fine with it because there may be 87 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: some of you may find this shocking. 88 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: There may be people who. 89 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: Don't like Buck or me, even though I think they 90 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: have awful taste, very it's very sequard. And my mom 91 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: and Buck's mom, we just they don't understand how you 92 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: could ever have that opinion, but some people do. 93 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: Does your mom still kind of want to fight everybody 94 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: who doesn't like you online? Because my mom totally does too. 95 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: It's such a mom thing. I'm like, don't worry about 96 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: a mom. She's like, I will finish them. I told you. 97 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: About when I first started writing that my mom got 98 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: in the mentions underneath my articles to defend me. 99 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, back in two thousand and five, like twenty 100 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: some odd years ago, I was writing and they started 101 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: to allow all the mentions underneath, you know, articles, and 102 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 3: my mom created an account and went. 103 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: In and was defending me, and uh, I think it 104 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: was I think it was my sister. She was like, Hey, 105 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: just so you know, mom is in the comment. 106 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: Your mom is a great lady. Is in the mom 107 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: is my mom would totally do the same thing, by 108 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: the way, like if she hasn't done it, you totally would, 109 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: because you know, we're always there a. 110 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: Little boy, you know what I mean, an account to 111 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 2: respond to people saying mean things about me in the 112 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: comments underneath my articles. 113 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: And I had to call. I was like, Mom, you 114 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: know this is great, but it's going to turn into 115 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: a story if you're in the comments all the time. 116 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: Ten Clay anecdote like this is up there with the 117 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: zero people showing up to the book signing like this 118 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: is a great Clay story. I like this a lot. 119 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 4: Mom. 120 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mom was in the comments and well, you know, 121 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: and just defending me, you know, like. 122 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: My son is a really I mean there's really I. 123 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: Mean, every mom out there can appreciate it. And I 124 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: was like, Mom, I appreciate it, but you can't do 125 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: this because it's going to turn into a big story 126 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: in the years ahead if you're always in the comments 127 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: fighting with people and I've seen this from other moms 128 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: sports message boards. Every now and then somebody's mom, you know, 129 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: the kids getting attacked because not playing quarterback or whatever. 130 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: Well enough, and mom will just go out and and 131 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: I want to give her credit because I thought this 132 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: was really funny. More a Rutledge super talented ESPN employee, 133 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: did an interview recently where she said her husband Josh, 134 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: who was a baseball player, played for the Red Sox 135 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: other teams, major League Baseball player, really talented guy that 136 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: people would would rip him, and she created a burner account. 137 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: She came clean. 138 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: She was like, I just I had a burner account 139 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: on social media where I would just go in and 140 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: defend my husband because people would be like, oh, he 141 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: went eight over four And she's like, did you see 142 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: the great catch that he made in center field? Which, 143 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: again I think sometimes what we do is harder on 144 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: the periphery the people who are not us, than it 145 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: is us ourselves. 146 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: Much like if you. 147 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: Are an athlete on the field and it's a stressful 148 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: moment in a game, you will often say, yeah, I 149 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: didn't feel the stress because you controlled the outcome in 150 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: some way. But mom or dad, girlfriend, whoever it is 151 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: sitting in the crowd, sister brothers, that they feel the 152 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: intensity and the nervousness more than the person on the field. 153 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: I think that's true for what we do too, and 154 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: I know the periphery, the p numbers surrounding us to 155 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: people and family feel that. But so that's a true story. 156 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: Mom probably listening right now. I appreciate her stepping in 157 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: now on your point on media. I love all this stuff. 158 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: And again, if you didn't defend Roseanne, if you didn't 159 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: defend Gina Corrano when Disney canceled both despite the fact 160 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: that they had far more successful shows they were a 161 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: part of in the Roseanne Show whatever it was called 162 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: the Connors, I think, and in The Mandalorian, which at 163 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 2: the time was the most popular show on Disney Plus, 164 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: and I'm told from my kids and my wife who 165 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: watch it was fantastic, really good show. 166 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: They canceled Gina Corano. 167 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear a word about Jimmy Kimmel, 168 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: but I think what's being actually at play here Buck 169 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: that nobody's talking about. There's multiple different media angles. First 170 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: of all, Disney is trying to buy the NFL network. 171 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: In order to buy the NFL network, they're gonna have 172 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: to get Trump approval. I think Bob Iger saw this 173 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: saw an opportunity to just curry favor with the Trump 174 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: administration by benching Jimmy Kimmel, potentially kicking him to the curb. 175 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: I don't think it was about Kimmel at all. I 176 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: think it's about the NFL other part. 177 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: Next Star and. 178 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: Sinclair are two major affiliate groups of ABC. A lot 179 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 2: of people think, oh, if I watch ABC that's owned 180 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: most of us actually watch on an affiliate station. My 181 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: for instance, ABC affiliate in Nashville is owned by Nextstar. 182 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: I think those guys are also trying to curry favor 183 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: over some of the decisions that are going to be 184 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: made by the Trump administration over the next few years, 185 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: and they see it as an opportunity to curry favor 186 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 2: by kneecapping Jimmy Kimmel as well. So while every but 187 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: he's focused on Jimmy Kimmel and what he said, which 188 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: was wrong and which I think that he should have 189 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: to apologize for the way that it was conveyed because 190 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: it wasn't a joke, it was the background of a joke. 191 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: And so but I think this is the bigger story 192 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: that's going on is there is a desperate desire for 193 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: the Disney Corporation to buy the NFL network. They want 194 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: to get Trump approval, and then I think also the 195 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: affiliates are seeking Trump approval as well, and Jimmy Kimmel 196 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: in that way is just kind of a just kind 197 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: of a random anti Trump zellot that they don't really 198 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 2: they're not. 199 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Committed to because they're making no money on okay, But 200 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: final final answer here, are they bringing Jimmy Kimmel back. 201 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: It's a big decision. I think they will. They will. 202 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: I think they will as well, and I think that 203 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: that's going to show a lot of bad faith to 204 00:10:55,440 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: people that feel like Disney finally did something to show 205 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: respect to the half of the country that Disney has 206 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: been effectively from a corporate level, spitting on for a 207 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: long time now. Yep, I think Disney is playing with 208 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: fire here more than they are. 209 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I think Disney has managed 210 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: to put themselves in a position where they may well 211 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: be boycotted in both directions simultaneously. 212 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: Yes, because everybody that's right when you don't. 213 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: This is a great line from Charles Barkley and I 214 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: think it's great lesson for life. No matter what you do, 215 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: if you worry about trying to make the people who 216 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 2: don't like you like you, then the people who do like. 217 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: You won't like you anymore. 218 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 2: And so much of social media is trying to make 219 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 2: people who don't like you, oftentimes operating in poor and 220 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: bad faith, like you. And if you worry about that, 221 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: if you worry about that, then you're going to end 222 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: up in a situation where the people who do like 223 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: you and respect you will no longer like and respect 224 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: you either. And I think Disney, frankly, Bob Iger has 225 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: he made two really good decisions. He bought Marvel, he 226 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 2: bought the Star Wars and then and Pixar, three good decisions. 227 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: Basically since then, he's been an awful CEO. You go 228 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: look at Disney stock and I bet a lot of 229 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: you own it. It hasn't gone up in a decade, 230 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: a full decade. He's made hundreds of millions of dollars 231 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: as CEO. I think he's destroyed the brand to a 232 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: large extent that Disney built. And I don't think that 233 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: he has tended to create great content. He's become more 234 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: political than creative. And that's a bad combination. 235 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: I also just think to what you were saying a 236 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: moment ago and about the sage the advice from mister Barkley, Yeah, 237 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: which I would I would say that that's very, very true. 238 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: Part of being an adult. I think part of maturing 239 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: is just understanding that people are going that that you're 240 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: going to have people dislike you for reasons that you 241 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: should be proud of and therefore it shouldn't bother you 242 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: at all. Like people are going to be mad at 243 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: you for telling the truth, and you have to embrace that. 244 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: And I mean that in a very general sense. I 245 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: mean that in your day to day life, not just 246 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: in politics. People will be mad at you for saying 247 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: what is true, will be mad at you or not 248 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: like you for calling them on their stuff or refusing 249 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: to play their games or whatever it may be. If 250 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: everybody likes you, you are not doing what you need 251 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: to do. That is another truism of life. I'll tell 252 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: you one other thing. Make the circle that people that 253 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: you care about small. And that's going to sound mean, 254 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: but what I mean is if you can't control anything 255 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: like I care, And I say this all the time 256 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: about my three boys and my wife, that's in my household. 257 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: That's the things that I'm directly involved in. I can't 258 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: control a lot of what everybody else does, and so 259 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 1: much of life is focused on people that you have 260 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: no ability to actually try to make good choices. You 261 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: worry about, you get concerned about right, and you can't. 262 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: You don't have any an ability to impact it. Like 263 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: when your boys said that you were an unk for 264 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: wearing quarter length socks. Let me tell you, I'm in 265 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: the blast radius of that enough that whenever now I 266 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: go through my drawer, I find those socks that are low. No, 267 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to be an unk, don't. I don't 268 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: want the Travis boys to find out that I'm dressed 269 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: like that. So you know what I'm saying, You got 270 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: to pay attention to who you pay attention to. 271 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: The boys light me up all the time for being 272 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: an unk, and I just look around and I'm like, 273 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: you know, unks are right about a lot, And that's 274 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: why I'm fine taking the shrapnel here for being an 275 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: old guy who wants things to not change. 276 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: There you go, we brought it full circle. All our look. 277 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: A home burglary happens every thirty seconds on average, it's 278 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: a reminder you should always be prepared to protect yourself 279 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: and your family. 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Spend time with Clay and 296 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 5: find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 297 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 5: get your podcasts. 298 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show a rolling 299 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: through a variety of your reactions. Let's hit a couple 300 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: of these right here. Michael in Surprise, Arizona, listening on 301 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: KA why I Radio says he was at the Charlie 302 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: Kirk memorial. 303 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: Michael, good morning, gentlemen. Very emotional day yesterday. IM fiance 304 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 4: who lived in Surprise, Arizona. About fifteen minutes for the stadium. 305 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 4: We were blessed, overwhelmed to get in get amazing seats. 306 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: I met people from all around the world. 307 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: Videotape live the moment, Chris Tomins sing Hallelujah and acapello. 308 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: That's going viral now. Everybody has videos of it to 309 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 4: experience that in person. 310 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: Philip Spirit was aspiring. 311 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: It looked amazing on television. Buck and we know a 312 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: lot of you listening were there. We started off the 313 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: show talking about how spectacular the event was. Cindy, an 314 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: upstate New York Democrat who called in, thanks for listening, Hi, guys, 315 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: love the show. 316 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 6: Sixty three years old democrat my entire life and I 317 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 6: was listening to you talk before about Kamala and I 318 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 6: was just struck by the similarities between the reason why 319 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 6: Hillary didn't win and the reason Kamala didn't win, and 320 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 6: that's because they were burdened by weak men. And I mean, 321 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 6: thinking back to when Hillary ran, all I could think 322 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 6: about was all of the scandal that happened with Kathleen 323 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 6: Willie and Juanita Broadrick and poor Monica, right, I mean 324 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 6: that girl, her life was ruined. 325 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: Sidney, By the way, we're about to go to a break. 326 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 2: But how long have you been listening? Years and so 327 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: you voted for Trump in twenty twenty four, even though 328 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: you've been a lifelong Democrat. Absolutely Okay, Well, thank you 329 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: for the call, and I'm sorry, I would like to 330 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: if Sidney wants to hang on. 331 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of curious. 332 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: I do think we have a lot of people Heck, 333 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: I voted Democrat in my younger years that have seen 334 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: the light more so of what's going on. I mean, 335 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: I'm not buying Kamala Harris's book on the day of. 336 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: Releasing Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, but some people out there might be. 337 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: Look, I want to tell you all about our friends 338 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 2: at the IFCJ and what an incredible difference they can make. 339 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: I saw it for myself when I traveled to Israel 340 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: last year. 341 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: It was amazing. 342 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: All the work, it is just trying to make people 343 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: able to survive in an incredibly dangerous place. And on Sunday, 344 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: October fifth, millions of Americans across America will plant an 345 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: Israeli flag to honor and provide solidarity for the victims 346 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: of October seventh, twenty twenty three. It's called Flags of Fellowship, 347 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: organized by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. You 348 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 2: can be a part of this movement too. To get 349 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: more info about how you can join Flags of Fellowship, 350 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 2: visit IFCJ dot org. That's IFCJ dot org. 351 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 5: Sleeve Travis and Buck Sexton on the front Lines of Truth. 352 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in everybody, Clay and Buck here, 353 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: and we talk about the Jimmy Kimmel situation. Clayton, I 354 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: agree that we both think he's coming back, and I 355 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: think his ratings will be even worse than they were before. 356 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: I know, you might say, oh, but there's a snapback 357 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: from everybody rallying to his side. No, what he said 358 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: was really gross and really dumb, and anybody who is 359 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: honest would recognize that, and it really shows you his mentality. Again, 360 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: it's the government shouldn't be shutting it down. The government's 361 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: not shutting it down. ABC took him off the air 362 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: for a little bit, a suspension for what he said 363 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: is a slap on the wrist. Quite honestly, Yes, sir no. 364 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 2: I think one other wrinkle here that isn't talked about 365 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: enough is Next Star and Saint Clair don't have to 366 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: carry the show. So there is a world where this 367 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: show comes back to your point, Buck, they suspend him 368 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: and he comes back, and he's only on fifty of 369 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: the top one hundred markets, right, and the other networks 370 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: are deciding that they want to do that is the affilam, 371 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 2: it's our deciding they're going to carry something else. So 372 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: that's another element of this that I think a lot 373 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: of people haven't dove into. Disney can't just snap their 374 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: fingers and say he's back. The affiliates have to agree 375 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: to carry this show, and I'm not sure Next Star 376 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 2: in Sinclair, absent some significant impact, are going to do that. 377 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: Just FYI, So did you want to hear more from 378 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: Cindy and Upstate New York Clay because she's holding well. 379 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: I was just curious how she listens to the show. 380 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: She says she's a Democrat, she voted for Trump. I 381 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 2: was just going to ask Cindy, who's still with us? Cindy, so, 382 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: do you still consider yourself a Democrat even though you 383 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: voted for Trump in twenty twenty four? 384 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 6: I kid with my husband I'm an enlightened Democrat and 385 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 6: he accepts that as Republican. 386 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 2: So you would say in twenty twenty eight you would 387 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: go back in as an independent voter in some way 388 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: or do you think you now have made the switch? 389 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 6: I think I have made the switch. It's just a 390 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 6: matter of putting to paper. 391 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting, That's kind of what I wondered. I 392 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: think we make all of Cindy great to having the audience. 393 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, And I just say we make 394 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: a lot of converts here on the show. You know, 395 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: that's part of the job here. We bring people in, 396 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: we bring those democrats in, We bring them some sanity 397 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 1: and some fun, and all of a sudden they are 398 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: voting Trump. So that's if we're doing that, we're doing 399 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: a great job. All right, Back to who is putting 400 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: the pressure or rather where's the pressure coming from, where's 401 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: the decision coming from on Jimmy Kimmel and his status 402 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: here is Press Secretary Caroline Levitt this is cut twelve, saying, look, 403 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: this is ABC's deal. Play it. 404 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 7: The decision to fire Jimmy Kimmel and to cancel his 405 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 7: show came from executives at ABC. 406 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: That has now been. 407 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 7: Reported, and I can assure you it did not come 408 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 7: from the White House, and there was no pressure given 409 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 7: from the President of the United States. And how do 410 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 7: I know that, Kayley, Because I was with the President 411 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 7: of the United States when this news broke in the 412 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 7: United Kingdom. We were enjoying the beautiful and spectacular state 413 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 7: visit that was put forth by the royal family and 414 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 7: the Prime Minister of the UK. He're a starmer, and 415 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 7: I actually brought this news to President Trump's attention. He 416 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 7: had no idea this was happening. It was a decision 417 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 7: that was made by ABC because Jimmy Kimmel chows to 418 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 7: knowingly lie to his audience on his program. 419 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: The only thing I would say here is I don't 420 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: think he's fired. I agree with everything Caroline's saying. I 421 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: think though he's coming back, meaning that it was a suspension, 422 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: which they said it was an indefinite suspension initially, they 423 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: left themselves this wiggle room. I think he's going to 424 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 1: be back on the air. And then also all these 425 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: people who are like, oh the government tyranny. Really Jimmy 426 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: Kimmell get suspended for like a week? I think. 427 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: So here's the other thing. How does Disney play this? 428 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: A lot of people in our industry are morons. It's 429 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: not going to shock you, but a lot of executives 430 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: are also morons. If I were looking at this the 431 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: way that I would play it for Disney, because I 432 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: think the larger prize here is the NFL network, which 433 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: Disney is trying to buy. To me, what I would 434 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: say is I would leak if I were Disney. We 435 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: have allowed Jimmy Kimmel to come back, but we have 436 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: requested that he apologized publicly for getting the facts wrong 437 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: and say hey, this was a left winger who killed 438 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and we've asked him to give a donation 439 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: to Turning Point USA. I don't know if Jimmy Kimmel 440 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: would be willing to do that, But then you turned 441 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: the conversation into putting the onus on Jimmy. Does that 442 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: make sense? And then Disney can say, hey, we offered 443 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: an opportunity, a pathway for him to come back, and 444 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 2: he refused to accept it because I'm gonna be honest. 445 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: With you, Buck. 446 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: If I were Jimmy, I don't think that I would 447 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: want to bow down, even to Disney and make that 448 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 2: apology and public donation. 449 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: This is what I think actually push the cancelation. Just 450 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: just want to be clear here. People that were all, 451 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you know the FCC and every no please, okay, 452 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: the government tyranny, that's all nonsense. The Trump administration hasn't 453 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: forced anyone's hand. They just said this from the from 454 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: the White House Press Secretary from her pulpit. But I 455 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: would say that on this issue, Clay, it was and 456 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: this was reported by the Wall Street Journal. It wasn't 457 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: just the initial statement from Kimmel. It was that he 458 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: wanted to go on air and like double down on 459 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: it and do more damage. And then he said no, no, no, 460 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: no no, And that's when the decision was made to 461 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: pull him, because then there'd be no way. I mean, 462 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: when when that, you know, when that wound was still 463 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: raw in the public's mind of what he said. It 464 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: was so gross and such a lie and so terrible, 465 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: and then to basically say, yeah, I'm standing by it. 466 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: How do you do how do you do clean up 467 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: on asle Jimmy when that's the situation. So the suspension 468 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: I think was meant to protect him. It's like Odyssey 469 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: being tied to the mast so that the sirens don't 470 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: bring him onto the shoals. That's amazing. 471 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: H yeah, that's amazing mythological analogy there. I would say 472 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: here too, I don't know that Jimmy would do that, 473 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 2: And so then I think the story can turn to 474 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: he was suspended. They set in order to return, we 475 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: need you to do the following, and he's unwilling to 476 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: do the following, and as a result, I think you 477 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: end up in a situation where he may not come back. 478 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 2: And what I would suggest is another part of this. 479 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: I think that they should start to have guests of 480 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,479 Speaker 2: different perspectives on. If I ran ABC News and I 481 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 2: saw that Trump won the election, I would say to 482 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 2: every ABC News or front facing current events show, whether 483 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 2: it's comedy or the View, you know, The View had 484 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: one conservative guest on last year, Buck and it was 485 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: Liz Cheney, who I don't even think you can count 486 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 2: as a conservative because she's like, that's like having the 487 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: Bulwark podcast guys on to be like, Yeah, how awful 488 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 2: as Trump, as awful as you think he is, or 489 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 2: as awful as we think he is. But shouldn't if 490 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: you're actually serving the country on the public airwaves. And 491 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: I would say the same thing about CBS News with Colbert, 492 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: although they've already announced his show is moving on. Shouldn't 493 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: you have people of a variety of different perspectives if 494 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: you're going to be political Now, if you're going to 495 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: do a Johnny Carson style show, and all your or 496 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: Jay Leno and all you're really doing is kind of 497 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: lightly poking fun at each direction. I don't think the 498 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: politics guests make since or e or matter. But Colbert 499 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: only has on left wing politicians. The View only has 500 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: on left wing politicians. How can you have a show 501 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: called The View which does not have a variety of 502 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 2: perspective from guests? I would just submit to you that 503 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: that seems very basic if I ran Disney to make 504 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: that choice. Of course, I obviously don't run Disney. They'd 505 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: be in better save if I did. 506 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: Frankly, I would offer to you that there is unintentional 507 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: truth and advertising from the View because it is not views. 508 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: There is one acceptable view that all of those ladies 509 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: and all of their guests must hold. So it is 510 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: in fact the view solo, singular one narrative that is 511 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: all that is allowed there. So in a sense, they're 512 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: far more honest about their authoritarianism than a lot of 513 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: people would realize. Yeah, look, I think it's going to 514 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: be super fascinating. By the way, speaking of super fascinating, 515 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: Adam Carolla, who listens a lot out in LA is 516 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: going to call in top of the next hour good 517 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: friends with Jimmy Corolla. They disagree with jim Jimmy kdam 518 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel. They disagree Adam Carolla and Jimmy dew on 519 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: almost every thing. What does he think should happen, what 520 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: does he think is happening, what has he heard might happen. 521 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: He'll talk with us next hour about just this. I 522 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: respect when people stand up for their friends. I've never 523 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: met Jimmy Kimmel, so I just analyze him from the 524 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: perspective of public statements and his public work. I don't 525 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: know the guy, but I always say this too, like 526 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: there are some people I have worked with who are 527 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: democrats who say some pretty crazy things. I will not 528 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: attack them. Uh, So I and I tell everybody that 529 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: just to be just so I'm upfront. I'm transparent on it. 530 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 6: Uh. 531 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: And I can appreciate that the friendship between Corolla and 532 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: Kimmel extends even to them because you know, you do 533 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: find out who your friends are when things get tough 534 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: in the public eye. You know, if you're not a 535 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: public person, you find out who your friends are actually 536 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: when things are really good, because you just have to 537 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: look at someone's face. Do they Are they happy for 538 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: you when things are great? That's just generally true. But 539 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: in our business, where you're public facing, when the heat 540 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: is on publicly, that's when you can really see because 541 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: there's because little words of support behind the scenes. That 542 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: doesn't cut it for your friends, right, It's like, are 543 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: you with me or not? Yeah? I mean it is. 544 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: Our business people are nasty. 545 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: You know. 546 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: I value friendship over over politics or anything else. 547 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: I think you do too. It's actually pretty rare for 548 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: what I think. If you if you don't have personal loyalty, 549 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: what do you have? Is always a question, and I 550 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: think it's something that you must you must practice as 551 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: a principle. It's not saying you can't pick and choose. 552 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: If you're picking and choosing whether or not personal loyalty 553 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: matters to you. Uh, you don't have it. That's the 554 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: thing about it. It's either you do it or you 555 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: don't do it. So I can. I can respect that perspective. 556 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: Fortunately for me, I've never met Jimmy Kimo, so I 557 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: can trash him and have fun with it. So there's that. 558 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: So don't worry. Don't worry about that. I'm not going 559 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 1: soft here, everybody. I'm not. 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Find them on the free 589 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 5: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 590 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 591 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. A little bit of news. 592 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: My world's colliding. I know a lot of you listen 593 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: in the State of Alabama. You're also basketball fans. Auburn 594 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 2: men's basketball coach Bruce Pearl has announced that he is 595 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: stepping down as the head basketball coach at Auburn. His son, 596 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: Steven will take over as the new head coach. Now, 597 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: I know both of these guys really well. I like 598 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: them both personally. The reason this could be interesting politically 599 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: is Bruce had been looking at the idea of running 600 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: for Senate in the state of Alabama, to potentially take 601 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: over the seat being vacated by Tommy Tuberville, the former 602 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: head football coach of Auburn. We got him on this 603 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: show quite a lot, current senator, likely next governor of Alabama. 604 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: Why do I bring that up? 605 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: Bruce is a very prominent voice for Jewish Republicans. There 606 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: is not, to my knowledge, in the Senate a high 607 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: profile Jewish Republican voice. And Bruce has been very outspoken, 608 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: very impacted by the amount of anti Semitism that he 609 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: has seen, certainly on campuses. And he is a Patriot. 610 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: He's a very pro America guy. I don't know if 611 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 2: he's going to put his next foot forward, next step 612 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: to go into the Senate, but stepping down now as 613 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: we get ready for the start of the basketball season 614 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: would suggest maybe that's possible. So let you know, but 615 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: that could be a story worth following that has just 616 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: broken in the last fifteen minutes or so. 617 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: Indeed, we will continue to follow. You've got a cut 618 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: or you wanted to play? Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm 619 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: gonna play cut eleven. Here, guys, a little throwback before 620 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: we talk more about the Kimel situation. Here when we 621 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: were back in twenty twenty and the leader of the 622 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: free world was kicked off of social media. In fact, 623 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: all social media, including Pinterest, if we remember, Donald Trump 624 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of us like Parlor got shut down 625 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: just because because there was this freak out. Nobody on 626 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: the left, no Democrats that I can remember, not a 627 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: single one had a problem with it, and in fact, 628 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: some like Jimmy Kimmel, we're celebrating this play it. 629 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 8: Trump has been suspended from Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and even Snapchat. 630 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 8: But don't worry, mister president. There are still plenty of 631 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 8: apps you do have access to. You still have Spotify 632 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 8: to drown out the sound of millions of people cheering 633 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 8: as you leave. You still have pet Finders. Since you're 634 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 8: on the outb with Mike Pence. You have Cameo, which 635 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 8: will soon be your primary source of income. You can 636 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 8: still play among us, a game where everyone accuses each 637 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 8: other of being against them. You'd love it. You could 638 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 8: play Pokemon Go. You and Donnie Junior can hunt Pikachu's together. 639 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 8: And when no one else wats you don't forget. There's 640 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 8: always your old friend, the Domino's Pizza tracker. 641 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: You know this mean spirited, mean spirited, nasty, nasty, nasty jokes, Clay, 642 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: I do not approve. I do not love it. 643 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 2: Well, so here's my take on this, and I think 644 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: it's true for Jimmy Kimmel and everybody else. You can't 645 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 2: scream First Amendment if you don't stand up for people 646 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: who disagree who you disagree with often, right, Gina Carano. 647 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 2: I come back to it because I think it's a 648 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 2: compelling case, Gina Carano. Not one word from anybody in Hollywood, 649 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 2: hardly that I remember, on a very successful Mandalorian show 650 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: fired over social media posts. Roseanne Barr the most successful, 651 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: I believe at the time when she got fired. 652 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you're these are these are fair, Clay, 653 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: You're you're calling out these two uh, Palmer Lucky, the 654 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: CEO of Andrel Andrel Industries, and yep, uh, he got 655 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: fired basically from Facebook because he donated ten thousand dollars 656 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: to a t he's a billionaire, which heated ten thousand 657 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: dollars from it to a Trump pack or a pack 658 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 1: that like like Donald Trump over ten thousand dollars donation, 659 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: totally legal, totally fine to a current and future president. 660 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: They fired him from Facebook for this. Yeah, like the 661 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: guy who invented uh, you know what was his name? 662 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: The guy who did was a Firefox or Mozilla or 663 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: one of those you know, he got you know, booted 664 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: out of his own company because he donated to a uh, 665 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, anti gay marriage bill thing in California. Like 666 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: this has been going on forever as much. 667 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well look at Megan Kelly. Uh, I mean 668 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 2: kicked to the curb by NBC News and then they're 669 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 2: keeping a lot of people on but did in particular 670 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 2: to me, those are easy analogous situations because they don't 671 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 2: have one speech policy. And so if you're not willing 672 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 2: to stand up for people in your industry who get 673 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 2: fired for unpopular opinions, then I'm not willing to hear 674 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: you try to stand up and play martyr when the 675 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 2: same thing is happening to you. So again, one of 676 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 2: the things I wish we had more of was people 677 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 2: held accountable for hipocrisy. Instead, there is a huge cottage 678 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: industry for people who can argue the opposite sides of 679 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: entire equations based only on who is making the argument, 680 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 2: and frankly, I think that audience overwhelmingly is leaning to 681 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 2: the left. 682 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: Right now, Clay, if Democrats did, if Democrats didn't have 683 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: two sets of standards, they wouldn't have any standards. All right, 684 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: We got Adam Corolla up next.