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Speaker 5: That's gonna teach the kids what's up man, because a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Joeb.

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Speaker 5: I would actually be Okay, with tax dollars going to

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Speaker 7: that Representative al Green fourthwith present himself in the well

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Speaker 1: We are all following the whole Department of Education thing.

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Speaker 1: Interesting Monica always great to talk to you. Stay warm

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Speaker 1: about well, kids just aren't going to school anymore. There's

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Speaker 1: Is there hope for this that's on this drastic decline

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Speaker 5: We're seeing that like what sixty percent of kids are

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Speaker 1: The well, in California specifically, I think they removed the

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Speaker 1: Yes, speaking of ineptitude, which is what this is a

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Speaker 1: Accidents happened, clearly, but dropping bombs on your own territory

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Speaker 4: come in for everybody to get mad at, and sadly

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Speaker 4: we would just move on.

436
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the way the human brain works is always fascinating.

437
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Speaker 1: I want to get onto this before we run out

438
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Speaker 1: of time here. Hamilton, one of the highest grossing musicals

439
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: on Broadway of all time, is no longer going to

440
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Speaker 1: be coming to the Kennedy Center because President Donald Trump

441
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: is now the chairman of the board. Retaliatory from the

442
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: musical theater community siaka artists in general, right like to

443
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: make these grand pronouncements. You watch the oxecars and everybody

444
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Speaker 1: let sures you on how you should live your life.

445
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: One does this make a dent? And two how much

446
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: of a sacrifice is it really? If you're canceling a

447
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: year in advance, there's plenty of time to go make

448
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: that money back that it would have been lost. Well,

449
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: it's crazy, but.

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Speaker 6: It does make a dent.

451
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Speaker 5: Because I think as a populist, we're getting sick and

452
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 5: tired of people who get to either play football, like

453
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 5: the Eagles just said, they're not going to go to

454
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 5: White House or be on stage. And look, I've been

455
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Speaker 5: an actor since two thousand and it is a joy

456
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Speaker 5: to be on stage. But I've also done crazy, terrible

457
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Speaker 5: jobs and keep my hopes alive to be an actor.

458
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Speaker 5: And I would rather be an actor any day of

459
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 5: the week than they go and work at a doggy

460
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 5: daycare of sweeping up other people's dogs poop. So that

461
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Speaker 5: being said, it's like these guys, what they're trying to

462
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 5: do is they're not appreciative of living in the greatest

463
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Speaker 5: country in the world that allows them to literally play

464
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Speaker 5: as what they did as kids and make some good

465
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Speaker 5: money off it. But it's great let them keep doing

466
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Speaker 5: it because I think it's going to open up up

467
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 5: more conservative, more republican entertainment, which we need anyway.

468
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Speaker 6: So they're doing us a favorite at the end of

469
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Speaker 6: the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't agree more guys. I'm out of time.

471
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Speaker 1: Brandon Siaka, thanks so much for joining us today. Really

472
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Speaker 1: appreciate having you. Coming up next, Alex Clark chats with

473
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Speaker 1: Brett Cooper as a partner for Cultural Pothecary podcast, which

474
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Speaker 1: is fantastic to watch, just little bite sized clips of it.

475
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Speaker 1: You can go check it out on the Cultural Apothecary

476
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Speaker 1: YouTube page, slash website. We'll be right back after this.

477
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Speaker 1: Don't go away.

478
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Speaker 3: So I have Fielder brothers Chase Reading, David Reading David

479
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Speaker 3: or twins. When they were seventeen years old, they were

480
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Speaker 3: at rowing practice. They did crewe. David had a cardiac

481
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: arrest and fell off of his wrong machine and collapsed.

482
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 3: They did not have any defibrillators on campus, and so

483
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 3: they tried CPR, but nothing could revive him. It was

484
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: on Valentine Day, two thousand and seven, so by the

485
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 3: time we got to the school there was basically nothing

486
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 3: that could be done.

487
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: Went to the.

488
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Speaker 3: Hospital, they did an autopsy, and to this day we

489
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: really don't know. They've linked it to something called long

490
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: Qt syndrome, which is a rhythmic problem in the heart.

491
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: But Read and David are identical, and Reid had no

492
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Speaker 3: sign of any of it. He had no heart power problems,

493
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 3: He's never had any heart problems. They literally are identical,

494
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 3: and so it had to be something that was like

495
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 3: epigenetics that like something changed environmentally David's life. My Mom,

496
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: you'll appreciate this, because she was relatively crunchy. She talked

497
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: to the doctors about the fact that David drank like

498
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: two red bulls a day. Oh my godsh and she

499
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: was always very like, David should not be drinking these.

500
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: But that was probably at the time when my parents'

501
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: relationship was the most heated. It was really really bad,

502
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 3: very very tense, not great. Chase had just gone off

503
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: to college, and she was just kind of just distracted.

504
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to put work in her mouth and

505
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: say that she regrets it, but I think that that's

506
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: something that she probably wishes that she had pushed more on,

507
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: because they would just get in the car, he would

508
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 3: have his red Bull, he would have his Red Bull

509
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: on the way home. She brought it up to the doctor.

510
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: She said, it up in my gut. I knew that

511
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: he shouldn't be drinking these. Could that have cost it?

512
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: No, of course not.

513
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: And then we'd literally my mom and I were on

514
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: the phone about two months ago and she sent me

515
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: a new study that was done on young people drinking

516
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 3: red bull and the spikes and cardiac wrests.

517
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Speaker 8: Well.

518
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: It also reminds me of like the Panera lemonade scandal.

519
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: It got mean to oblivion. But all this is very real, real,

520
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: the amount of caffeine and things like that. I mean, you,

521
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: I think that's a very fair question.

522
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 10: Yeah.

523
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Speaker 2: Do you remember where you were when you found out

524
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: that he had passed away?

525
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: We were making Valentines at our house in North Chattanooga.

526
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: We went to the school first and then we followed

527
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: the ambulance to the hospital, and it's very blurry after that.

528
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: I remember the room where they would put the family

529
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: of somebody who had just passed away. I think that

530
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 3: that's what the room was, was like very dark, very

531
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: like purple hues, and a nurse took me. I remember

532
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: walking through the halls. It was by that point, very

533
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: late in the evening, because they had tried everything. At

534
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: this point, they were doing autopsies, and I had my bright,

535
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: lime green Hannah Anderson clogs on and I remember this

536
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: because there was nobody else in the hospital and I

537
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 3: was like clomp clomp clomp, running through the halls and

538
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: really had no concept of what was going on. And

539
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 3: I don't think I really understood for a while. But

540
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: it absolutely destroyed my family. I mean, there was really

541
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: no coming back for that my parents' marriage was already

542
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 3: on the fritz, and losing a child was just there

543
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: wasn't any coming back. My brother Chase went back off

544
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: to college. He handled it in his own way. He

545
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: definitely is somebody that you know, kind of shuts down emotionally.

546
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: So I felt very alone at that point in my life.

547
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: Actually was just on Lyla Rose's podcast and she was

548
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: asking why I had gotten into acting, and it was

549
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: because my mom noticed that I just had become basically,

550
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 3: you know this, incredibly shy, not talking, not coming out

551
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: of my shell. Would literally hide in the cupboards in

552
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: our houses we were in the process of moving when

553
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: David died, would not speak to people. And there was

554
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: like a community theater production at my brother's school that

555
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: was going on and they needed some kids, and so

556
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: she was like, I think this is a good opportunity

557
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: to just get you out there, like get on stage,

558
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: go do something. And I just fell in love with

559
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: it because I think I had I had felt so

560
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: shut down and kind of left behind in a way

561
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 3: because we had I was and understandly so I was

562
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: the lesser priority in the family at that time because

563
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: my brother Reid was in the room was sitting next

564
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: to day, but he watched his identical twin die.

565
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Speaker 2: And is this the brother now that struggles with schizophrenia?

566
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: Yes?

567
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So do you think that your brother losing his

568
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: identical twin is that what triggered the schizophrenia or were

569
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: there signs of this before?

570
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: No, there were no signs of it before. It was

571
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: it's directly correlated, my mom often says, and I think

572
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 3: a psychologist who was working with I rather Reid told

573
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 3: her this as well. But we're basically all one traumatic

574
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: event away from losing our minds. Like it's just it

575
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: can happen like that, like something just in his brain

576
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: that and then I can't I can't play down this part.

577
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: And this is also a controversial thing. He in the

578
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: aftermath of David's death. So it's a lot of weed,

579
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: and people hate this conversation because they want to say

580
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: that we'd is harmless. Alibeth Stucky and Liz Wheeler have

581
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: been sounding the alarm specifically about cannabis and it's links

582
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: with schizophrenia. Yes, and so I think that those two

583
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: things are intrinsically connected. And weed can also spark, you know,

584
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: clinical depression, It can spark a myriad of different mental

585
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: health conditions, and so I think that it is all

586
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: very connected, and I don't think we could ever pinpoint

587
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: which one caused it more than the other, because schizophrenia

588
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: is often caused by a very, very traumatic event, and

589
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: I think that you know, people hear that and they go, Okay,

590
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: well people die all the time, like what's different here.

591
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: But if you're not a twin, you just don't know.

592
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: And I can try to understand my brother as much

593
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: as possible. I have done therapy with my brother. We

594
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: have sife sat next to him with a psychologist that

595
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: literally specializes in twin loss because the only way that

596
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: he would go see a therapist is if I would

597
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: go with him. So I've sat through, you know, listening

598
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: to all of this. It is an experience unlike anything else.

599
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: There is a point in a twins life when you

600
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: do have to disconnect when because you've just been together,

601
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: I mean since you were in the womb and Read

602
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: and David had been in the same bedroom. They had

603
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: split up for that, you know, nine months that David

604
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: went to the military academy and that was awful for them.

605
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: So they came back together. They had been in the

606
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: same school, same class, same friend group, same bedroom, same routine.

607
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: They look exactly alike, exactly mean they were identical, identical, identical,

608
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: and they had not gone through that period of breaking

609
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: apart and becoming their own individuals right they were one

610
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: and so Red literally lost half of himself, and he

611
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: aggressively has tried to change the way he looks. He

612
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: won't share his beard. He keeps his hair very long,

613
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: and I think a lot of that and he shared

614
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: this sometimes with me and in bits and pieces. Is

615
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: because he can't look in the mirror and see David.

616
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: So he is.

617
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: Capable of like having coherent conversation and not anymore.

618
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: He's totally nonverbal now.

619
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: Really yeah, and so how often do you see and

620
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: talk to him?

621
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: I have not seen him since December of twenty twenty one.

622
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: Has he gotten to meet your husband?

623
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 4: No?

624
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: How does that feel awful?

625
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: I was actually dealing with a bunch of stuff right now,

626
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: because if anything were to happen to my mom, we

627
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 3: would lose all contact with Reid.

628
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: No idea, where's whereabouts are or anything?

629
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: Yep, exactly because she has been able to work with

630
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: his doctors even though he is an adult. He's twelve

631
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: years older than me. So I'm actually working through things

632
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: right now to become part of that guardianship just so

633
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 3: that I can be there. And it's always been you know,

634
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: this has been going on for ten years at this point,

635
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: I think was his first psychotic break. This has been

636
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: like probably the defining part of my adolescence. Really. He's

637
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: been in and out of my life for many years.

638
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: He was homeless in California, so I would literally have

639
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: to go out and find him on the street and

640
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 3: make sure he was okay. I found him passed out

641
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 3: in front of targets after overdoses. It's just it's been really,

642
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: really terrible. But for ten years I've kind of known

643
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: that this would and not in a bad way, but

644
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: that this would inevitably fall on my shoulders, that I

645
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: would be the one to take care of him. My

646
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 3: dad really is not They're not that close. I don't

647
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 3: think Reid would want that. My brother Chase, that's just

648
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: you know, they have a pretty fraught relationship because of

649
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: some things that Reid has done in the midst of psychosis.

650
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: I because he's just become a totally different person, and

651
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 3: I just made the decision that I would rather have,

652
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: you know, carry all of that than have him be

653
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: out there and be alone.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot at a young age, it is, but

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Speaker 2: it's it's.

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Speaker 3: Worth it to me because I know he's such an

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Speaker 3: incredibly brilliant human being. He's a wonderful human being that

658
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Speaker 3: has just had odds and odds and odds stacked up

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Speaker 3: against him. And obviously, you know, you have to take accountability.

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Speaker 3: And he has made some not great choices that we've

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Speaker 3: talked about as a family, and he used a lot

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Speaker 3: of drugs. He rejected help when he probably shouldn't have,

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Speaker 3: but you know, you can't change that.

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Speaker 2: You feel like you've ever been allowed the space to

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Speaker 2: fully grieve your brother's death, Yes, later.

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Speaker 3: On, but I've It's interesting. I think I've grieved both

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Speaker 3: of them in different ways. I don't think that I

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Speaker 3: grieved David's death honestly until I turned seventeen. It's a

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Speaker 3: weird thing that people talk about if you've lost a parent,

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Speaker 3: or if you are a young person and you lose

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Speaker 3: a sibling. I felt so guilty turning seventeen because he

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Speaker 3: did not get to live longer than that, and it

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Speaker 3: was like the worst day of my life. I just

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Speaker 3: remember I had like a Spanish final that day, was

675
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Speaker 3: like my second year community to college. I think I

676
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Speaker 3: said in my car, just like bawling, and I literally

677
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Speaker 3: and I don't think I really expressed this until like

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Speaker 3: I called my mom that day from the car and

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Speaker 3: I was like, I genuinely thought that my life was

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Speaker 3: going to end a week after i seventeenth birthday, because

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Speaker 3: his birthday is February seventh, and he died on February fourteenth.

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Speaker 3: I was like, that was just I haven't thought like

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Speaker 3: really further than that, Like I've dreamed about things, but

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Speaker 3: it was just like, that's just that's where the road ends.

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Speaker 3: And it felt like a betrayal in a way to

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Speaker 3: be able to get older and do things that he

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Speaker 3: never got to do, because I was looking up to

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Speaker 3: him in so many different ways, and I've idolized him

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Speaker 3: for my entire childhood, because you know, when you lose somebody,

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Speaker 3: you usually focus obviously not that he was like a

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Speaker 3: bad person or anything like that, but you focus on

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Speaker 3: all the amazing things and he's so wonderful, and he

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Speaker 3: really was. He was so artistic, and he was like

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Speaker 3: the best of us, and he was so kind and

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Speaker 3: so sweet, and so I put him up on this pedestal,

696
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Speaker 3: and then to now be older than him felt like

697
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Speaker 3: such betrayal. To be able to he never went to college.

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Speaker 3: He had all these dreams. He wanted to go to

699
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Speaker 3: ut Austin. He wanted to be an architect, like to

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Speaker 3: be able to go and chase my dreams, to get married,

701
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Speaker 3: like he desperately wanted to get married. His long term

702
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Speaker 3: girlfriend just got married a couple of years ago, which

703
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Speaker 3: was so wonderful. We're still in her life, but you know,

704
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Speaker 3: to see everybody else's life progress, and you know, him

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Speaker 3: not being able to. I think that's really what I grieved.

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Speaker 2: What do you miss about him the most?

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Speaker 3: I miss what could have been. I think when you

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Speaker 3: lose somebody at such a young age as five, there

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Speaker 3: are there's a presence in my life that I miss.

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Speaker 3: I miss what my family was like, that kind of

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Speaker 3: like child's like innocence of what we were like before

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Speaker 3: he passed away. But I really miss what our family

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Speaker 3: could have been like if he had not passed away.

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Speaker 3: And I miss what Reid would be like if he

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Speaker 3: was still here. And that's a whole other thing of

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Speaker 3: you know, having to grieve somebody who is still alive.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to turning point tonight, where we are turning

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Speaker 1: the course of America's cultural will come back. It is Thursday,

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Speaker 1: so it is thrown down Thursday. She's got the right

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Speaker 1: spirit in mind. I love the enthusiasm. Want you check

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Speaker 1: out this clip from Charlie Kirk when he was on

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Speaker 1: the Whatever podcast laying down some logic and reason for

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Speaker 1: a bunch of the libs that were surrounded around the

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Speaker 1: table with him. Watch this and we will discuss briefly

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Speaker 1: on the other side.

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Speaker 10: Let's say there was a company that employees OnlyFans models,

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Speaker 10: and then they take a cut and they do all

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Speaker 10: the work for you, okay, And they employ male and

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Speaker 10: female onlyfan models, and they both work ten hours a day.

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Speaker 10: The female onlyfan models will earn a million dollars a

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Speaker 10: year in for the company, and the males will only

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Speaker 10: bring in one hundred thousand dollars a year for the company.

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Speaker 10: Should they have to pay both of them the same

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Speaker 10: because it's equal work for equal pay, or should they

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Speaker 10: give more money to who's actually bringing money to the door,

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Speaker 10: the women.

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Speaker 6: For the company.

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Speaker 2: Like that kind of stuff, Like.

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Speaker 6: I think you both know the answer.

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Speaker 10: You're just afraid to say it that women should be

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Speaker 10: able to earn what they earn, and they provide.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, sound logic, sound reasoning, and it's and

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Speaker 1: it's hilarious to watch it thrown down back in their face.

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Speaker 1: I do I'm gonna get in trouble for this. I

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Speaker 1: do have one thing to push back on with Charlie's

746
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Speaker 1: example there, I'm not entirely sure what a male OnlyFans

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Speaker 1: model would do for ten hours a day. It sounds,

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Speaker 1: without going into a lot of detail, a lot of chafing, honestly,

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Speaker 1: But that being said, you know, the logic obviously is sound. Now,

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Speaker 1: equal work for equal pay, get paid what you output,

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Speaker 1: and if you output more, if you're a woman or

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Speaker 1: a man, doesn't matter what you get paid for the output.

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Speaker 1: And if your boss or employer doesn't want to pay

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Speaker 1: you for that to feel free to go find work

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Speaker 1: other places and eventually the market will correct all of

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Speaker 1: those errors or mistakes by the employer that isn't paying

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Speaker 1: you the fair wage. Output is what you should judge.

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Speaker 1: Not a very difficult thing, but love the throwdown from

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Speaker 1: Charlie over there at the Whatever podcast. Charlie also sat

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Speaker 1: down with Governor Gavin Newsome of all people and had

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Speaker 1: a fascinating conversation. If you haven't already, go listen to

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Speaker 1: the full podcast. But we've got a clip from that

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Speaker 1: coming up right after the break before we go into

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Speaker 1: Charlie's show. It's gonna be It's a fascinating listen. If

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Speaker 1: you want to have to take the time to go,

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Speaker 1: do so. But that being said, that'll do it for

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Speaker 1: us here tonight at turning point tonight. We will see

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Speaker 1: it tomorrow, same time, same place. God bless America.

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Speaker 9: The worst part though, Charlie no bes true story. Literally

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Speaker 9: last night, trying to put my son to bed, He's like, no, Dad,

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Speaker 9: I just what time. What time is Charlie gonna be here?

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Speaker 6: What time?

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Speaker 9: And I'm like, dude, you're in school tomorrow. He's thirteen.

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Speaker 9: He's like, no, no, this morning, wakes up, it's six up.

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Speaker 9: Then he's like I'm coming. I'm like he literally would

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Speaker 9: not leave the house.

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Speaker 6: Did you let him take off school?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: He did, of course not.

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Speaker 9: He's not here for a good reason.

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Speaker 1: But the point is the canceled school for like two years.

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Speaker 5: Once.

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Speaker 9: The point is the point, which is you are making

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Speaker 9: a damn dead I'm kidding. No, but I know, and

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Speaker 9: I but I appreciate that. I mean, it's the reason

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Speaker 9: you're here because I think people need to understand your success,

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Speaker 9: your influence, what you've been up to, and the fact

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Speaker 9: that you're on these college campus stores. And to your point, man,

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Speaker 9: you just open up.

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Speaker 10: I mean you're like, ask me anything, anything, Challenge me,

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Speaker 10: Challenge me.

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Speaker 9: When did this whole thing? When did you start putting

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Speaker 9: us together?

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Speaker 10: I've been at this for thirteen years and it's been

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Speaker 10: a wild movement, really accelerated once President Trump kind of

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Speaker 10: came on the scene, right around i'd say twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 10: We had a goal, could we move the youth vote

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Speaker 10: ten points over ten years?

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Speaker 9: And there was that literally you sat down and put

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Speaker 9: that new miracle.

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Speaker 10: Together, like can we move at ten points over ten

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Speaker 10: years ish, you know, approximate. Because our whole hypothesis was,

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Speaker 10: and we you know, we did this alongside President Trump

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Speaker 10: and his great team, was that this demographic is disproportionately

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Speaker 10: to the Democrat side. We believe Democrats were taking them

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Speaker 10: for granted. We think that your side had no message

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Speaker 10: whatsoever and an ideological monopoly. We saw some of the

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Speaker 10: fault lines there and to President Trump's credit, he also

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Speaker 10: harmonized with the strategy by going on podcasting and using TikTok.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, I mean we did it in four years,

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Speaker 10: not ten, large in part thanks to you guys.

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Speaker 9: And we'll go get to that, and I sincerely get

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Speaker 9: to that because I want, you know, I want to

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Speaker 9: stress test as some of those fault lines as relates

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Speaker 9: to the reality of our party and where we are today. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: Visa you eu ascendency, not just individually as an organization,

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Speaker 9: but where was that sort of moment for you? Because

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Speaker 9: it's interesting. I mean, you're such a young guy. So

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Speaker 9: it's not a deep biography here. It's not like twenty

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Speaker 9: years in the wilderness writing his first book, getting a

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Speaker 9: TV show that was canceled, coming back. It's more just

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Speaker 9: this immediacy of ascendancy, was it. I mean, were you

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Speaker 9: always sort of born and bred with an ideological mindset

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Speaker 9: or were you more open minded? And you start to

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Speaker 9: realize a lot of bsos out there. Y, I've always

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Speaker 9: been conservative, obviously grown in that over the last ten

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Speaker 9: ISSU years was more libertarian, I'd say in the first

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Speaker 9: couple of years, as to be expected as I got

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Speaker 9: married and have kids become more conservative. But no, look,

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Speaker 9: just one of the things we saw in the last

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Speaker 9: couple of years that the Democrats completely ignored and your

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Speaker 9: side was basically not acknowledging it was happening, was the

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Speaker 9: crisis that young people were experiencing that I mean, just one,

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Speaker 9: it's the first time in America's history that a thirty

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Speaker 9: year old is going to have it worse off than

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Speaker 9: their parents. It's a breakdown of the social compact. They

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Speaker 9: are the most alcohol addicted, most drug addicted, most suicidal,

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Speaker 9: most depressed, most medicated generation and history. And the message

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Speaker 9: that was largely being fed to a lot of young

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Speaker 9: people was lawrier expectation. You're not going to have the

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Speaker 9: same American dream that your parents would have. And we

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Speaker 9: saw this as an opportunity, especially with young men. And

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Speaker 9: again this got ridiculed a lot by the press that, oh,

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Speaker 9: you know, they're creating this manosphere thing. Look, they're half

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Speaker 9: of the population and necessary for any society and civilization

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Speaker 9: to succeed, which is to have both.

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Speaker 10: Strong men and strong women. And we went about that

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Speaker 10: in a very unique and creative way. And again the

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Speaker 10: president became a cultural phenomenon where no matter what you

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Speaker 10: threw at this guy. He rose above it. You would

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Speaker 10: even have to give him credit. I mean, basically seven

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Speaker 10: hundred years in federal prison. You know, States tried to

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Speaker 10: kick him off the ballot. I know you spoke out

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Speaker 10: against it, but California did have a faction that tried

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Speaker 10: to kick him off the ballot, right, And despite all

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Speaker 10: of that, of course being shot, and that was kind

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Speaker 10: of the crescendo of all of it. He kind of

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Speaker 10: became this figure of an American comeback story. So he

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Speaker 10: personified what a lot of young people, especially young men,

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Speaker 10: wanted back in their politics, which was an ascendant rebel

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Speaker 10: attitude against these institutions at failed them so miserably.

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Speaker 6: It's interesting.

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Speaker 9: So what would you keep saying we? Which is interesting,

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Speaker 9: and that's the organization that you created to.

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Speaker 10: We would be like conservative movement MAGA. But yes, I

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Speaker 10: have turning point you say a turney point action Charlie

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Speaker 10: Kirk Show. But when I'm saying we, I mean more

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Speaker 10: specifically kind of those of us that saw this political

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Speaker 10: moment three or four years ago.

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Speaker 9: But you were at this even before then. Correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 9: So when did you when did you decide to sort

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Speaker 9: of just shift your gear? I mean you were working

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Speaker 9: for another Kirk, for campaign Mark Kirk. So you had

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Speaker 9: a political obviously strong political leanings or at least desire

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Speaker 9: to sort of be in the political sphere, but not

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Speaker 9: in elected office necessarily. You don't want to be behind

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Speaker 9: the scenes.

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Speaker 10: I mean, like the biography has been written about a

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Speaker 10: million times, but I mean didn't didn't go to college,

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Speaker 10: wanted to go to West Point, didn't get in.

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Speaker 9: I'm an entrepreneur.

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Speaker 10: Love it started this organization and it became far more

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Speaker 10: successful than I ever could have realized.

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Speaker 7: And the.

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Speaker 6: Kind of as we started to grow.

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Speaker 10: The organization, I recognized that there was an ideological imbalance

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Speaker 10: on a lot of these college campuses, and we wanted

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Speaker 10: to go about trying to offer a counterpoint of conservative

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Speaker 10: you know, pro freedom, pro liberty, you know America first Udia.

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Speaker 9: And you saw the college campuses as sort of the

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Speaker 9: underbelly of the opportunity or is it just more just

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Speaker 9: experiential in terms of your own sort of animis towards you.

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean, you have a sitting population about twenty

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Speaker 10: million kids that are there for four years. There's that,

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Speaker 10: and also again you'd know where to go about up

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Speaker 10: I mean seventy percent. When we started in twenty twelve,

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Speaker 10: seventy five percent of kids on college campuses would vote

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Speaker 10: for Democrats. Now fast forward today the SAS election cycle,

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Speaker 10: Democrats lost the youth vote in Michigan, nearly lost that Wisconsin,

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Speaker 10: nearly lost at Arizona. So our goal was, hey, let's

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Speaker 10: move at ten points. We moved at thirteen points. And

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Speaker 10: this is important for your audience to know and for

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Speaker 10: Democrats to reckon, with which I see no signs that

904
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Speaker 10: Democrats care at all that they're losing the next generation.

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Speaker 10: We're drawing record crowds or ranks are expanding. The most

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Speaker 10: support that President Trump has iss voter under thirty. Sixty

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Speaker 10: percent of voters under thirty support President Trump. It's according

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Speaker 10: to Rasmus. And you might say that's a little rich.

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Speaker 10: It might be, but it's directionally true. And one of

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Speaker 10: the main reasons that this has all been happening is

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Speaker 10: that baby boomers have actually seen their wealth increased the

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Speaker 10: last four years. They don't buy into this whole idea

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Speaker 10: that our institutions are broken or that they're in need

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Speaker 10: of massive bottom up revolutionary change. And we see that Actually,

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Speaker 10: Kamala Harris did three points better with baby boomers than

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Speaker 10: she did in twenty twenty. And the number one story

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Speaker 10: that you know, James Carville, whoeveryone takes seriously for some reason,

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Speaker 10: should have been saying, is like all Kamala Harris had

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Speaker 10: to do was just do the same with younger voters

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Speaker 10: that Joe Biden did in twenty twenty, and she would

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Speaker 10: be president right now.

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Speaker 9: And remind us what Joe Biden did in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 10: Thirteen points better. So in terms of just like America,

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Speaker 10: kind of a combination of exit polling. So it's really

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Speaker 10: it's a difficult science to pinpoint.

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Speaker 9: So that goes back then, I mean to your point.

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Speaker 9: In order to do that, you've got to stand for something.

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Speaker 9: You've got to assert yourself. You gotta have a strategy,

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Speaker 9: and you got to implement it.

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Speaker 10: You also have to not believe crazy stuff and not

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Speaker 10: believe crazy that mm hmm