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Speaker 2: Why from the Parts Unknown Studios into the double Battle Crowd,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Battleground Podcast, your place for all things

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Battle Crowd. What's up you guys. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another episode of the Battleground Podcast. I got

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Speaker 1: my tag team partner Eli. We're actually in studio today

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Speaker 1: for this in the house. I'm excited about this when

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Speaker 1: normally we're at our houses doing this over camera, but

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Speaker 1: my computer screen. I'm sorry for that, which which is

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Speaker 1: great and of course coming up on this Saturday, December fourth,

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Speaker 1: at the GPB Studios down in Atlanta, Georgia, NWA is

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Speaker 1: putting on hard Times to Revenge has no bounds of

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Speaker 1: the card is absolutely stacked, so many great stuff and uh,

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Speaker 1: we have a special guest who's going to be a

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Speaker 1: part of the last n W A show. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about what her role is in this n WA show.

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Speaker 1: The legend the icon Medusa also known as a Lundra

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Speaker 1: blazes on the show we do. We don't have very

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Speaker 1: many people in studio, but when we do, we make

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Speaker 1: sure it's the real deal people in studio.

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Speaker 4: Like how you rolled out the red carpet we did.

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Speaker 5: The last person we had in studio was Diana Prazza

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Speaker 5: when she was still Impact Champion and your good friend

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Speaker 5: Mickey took that belt from her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there was a lot of beef between you

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Speaker 1: and Diana on Twitter. I saw that going back and forth.

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Speaker 4: That could have happened. So now you never know.

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Speaker 1: You never say never, right of course, And you know

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Speaker 1: we talk about never say never. And what when were

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Speaker 1: you first approach going in the WW Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 1: Like did you get to a point where you thought

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Speaker 4: Well? Of course, I mean yes, especially because of the

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Speaker 4: incident of the title trashing.

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Speaker 4: So yes, so after that happened, of course, trashing the

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Speaker 4: so just the reason is why of doing that. I

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Speaker 4: I just thought maybe i'd get maybe a magazine cover

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Speaker 4: Oh my god? Who is this? And finally it was like,

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Speaker 1: Well, I like pulling an Ashton Kutcher and punking you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, literally, yeah, So that was my first main concern

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Speaker 4: Or Oh absolutely so. I was very nervous. I was

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Speaker 4: it was going, and you know, really enjoying the kind

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Speaker 4: I kept telling my husband, I don't know what to expect,

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Speaker 4: Just very nice to me, and I was I was like,

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Speaker 4: it was all gone. And was exceptional her her gratefulness

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Speaker 4: just you know, for this business, and then her towards

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Speaker 4: to walk up on that stage was absolutely killer. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And if it wasn't for her planting that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: And there's a great little story to that speech. So

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Speaker 4: And so he only got the whole, you know, seventeen

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Speaker 1: That's still a cool part though, that's awful.

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Speaker 4: I grew a pair on that, I'll tell you. So. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So a great story on that speech was I, you know,

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Speaker 4: Fame night and we're at the hotel and I'm standing

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Speaker 4: and I was talking like just like this, like normally,

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Speaker 4: or just exude, you know whatever. And so I knew

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Speaker 4: I'm speaking, I'm talking, and he's sitting there and his

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Speaker 4: Got it just like, and I'm like, I got this out,

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Speaker 4: you know, very positive and great. And so that night

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Speaker 4: I didn't know what was going to happen. And I'm like, well,

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Speaker 4: then I did the speech and he said he was

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Speaker 4: where did all of this come from?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, I got this, babe. Right. So that

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Speaker 5: And it's funny too that the whole concept of the

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Speaker 4: So I mean, it isn't that the truth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just a lot that goes into it.

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Speaker 5: And so I think, you know, you'll probably still look

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Speaker 5: back on that night and be like, I can't believe

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Speaker 5: that we patch that up, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like, I still so that host speech they have, you

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Speaker 4: have assigned writers when you do your speech, and so

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Speaker 4: we had, you know, I had my speech and so

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Speaker 4: I had to turn it over to the writer and

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Speaker 4: I'm sure and then Vince looks it over and it's

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Speaker 4: like yes, no, yes, no, yes no. They gave me

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Speaker 4: my speech back and said, okay, not one freaking.

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Speaker 1: Thing, no cross out.

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Speaker 4: And then I suggested, I said, I got an idea.

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Speaker 4: I go since it was the whole trash can thing,

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Speaker 4: and the writer's going yeah yeah, and I said, can

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Speaker 4: I like bring it back? I brought the title and

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Speaker 4: he's like, go on. I'm like, okay, so we'll have

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Speaker 4: a trash can Natty'll be out there, you know, blah

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Speaker 4: blah blah. And I said, I can pull out a

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Speaker 4: couple of things and say, well, this is not how

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Speaker 4: I enjoyed women's wrestling, and screw these barbecue sauce or whatever.

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Speaker 3: The hell he said.

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Speaker 4: Right, and then same with the Eric Bischoff thing leading

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Speaker 4: it home where it belonged. Yeah, And I was like,

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Speaker 4: gonna say no. They came back and said Vince loved it.

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Speaker 1: So and it seems like NWA is doing that with

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Speaker 1: So we sat there and we watched him Power and

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Speaker 4: I think women's pay per views are are important. It

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Speaker 4: So I'm very much for it. But I am so

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Speaker 4: When I was working there in power, it was it

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Speaker 4: I love the whole style and what Billy is doing.

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Speaker 4: Billy's smart.

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Speaker 1: Oh very spell. We've got him on the show twice

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Speaker 1: and he's would you really? He is a mastermind when

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Speaker 4: Wrestling is his thing. I know, it's like wrestling and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's easy to think of this as like a

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Speaker 3: He's in it. He's in the trenches.

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Speaker 3: He runs through his blood.

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Speaker 4: I learned a lot about Billy working during the time

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, done. You don't even have to put you

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Speaker 3: You gotta be cool about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So it'll be very it'll be interesting to really my

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Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm waiting to see. For you to

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine.

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Speaker 3: Things have happened?

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Speaker 4: Ranger things?

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Speaker 1: That is a movie?

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Speaker 5: I think granted now he's not on a full time schedule,

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Speaker 4: You I mean I'm at sixty two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're not. I mean got in there.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure. There's a couple more matches.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about that for a second. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: Why can't We're getting there, We're going to change.

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Speaker 5: and then you coming on run and Gala system. I mean,

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00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 5: it's it's usually the boys club, even though it's the

440
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 5: girls wrestling, you know.

441
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 4: And it's again I hate this cliche baby steps, but

442
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 4: I'm going to go in there with my boots up

443
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 4: and I'm going to take big strides.

444
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

445
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 5: Well you've been taking baby steps for a while. I mean,

446
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 5: you know, you got uncredited for your stuff early in

447
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 5: your career, so I mean you've been carrying this wagon

448
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 5: for a while now.

449
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and it's good to see things are

450
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: finally shifting in the right direction that they should be.

451
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 1: And you know, we we asked the question and we

452
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 1: put it out there on social media. People wanted to

453
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 1: ask you questions, fan questions, and our good friends over

454
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: there the Turnbuckle Tavern wanted to know the Dangerous Turnbuckle Tavern.

455
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, so is do I get a free cupe

456
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 4: on for a beer?

457
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 1: But the beer? Yeah, we'll write that now, we'll put

458
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 1: that in the writer for the next one. So they

459
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: asked that. They said that the Dangerous Alliance is their

460
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 1: personal favorite faction of all time. Can you speak to

461
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 1: that time period being a key member of such a

462
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: talented group and being the first lady of the Dangerous Alliance?

463
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 3: Very underrated faction by the.

464
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 4: Way, Oh my gosh, right, so the da could you

465
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 4: imagine just milking that and again for longer than it

466
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 4: did and just going on and on. It would have

467
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 4: been so amazing. It was amazing in the short time.

468
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 4: But for when I was asked to be a part

469
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 4: by Paul and one of my dearest friends to this day,

470
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 4: he actually helped and kickstarted my career many ways. He

471
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 4: fought for me literally in the ring, but he fought

472
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 4: for me in many ways for that to carry my

473
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 4: career and to be able to work with all of

474
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 4: those men, it was challenging. I had to know my

475
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 4: place and I was quiet. I knew when to speak

476
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 4: and not to speak. However, there was a time where

477
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 4: when I when I believe that there's enough, when enough's enough,

478
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 4: then it's enough, and then I speak up and I'm

479
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 4: not lost for words when it comes to sticking up

480
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 4: for myself and you know, trying to pave the way

481
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 4: and you know, make you know, setting a precedence. So

482
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 4: I was trying to do a promo and it was

483
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 4: with the DA and all the guys. You know, they

484
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 4: got hurried up and get to the gym and go

485
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 4: to the tanning bed and them and eat their do

486
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 4: all their iso iso pro protein back then or whatever

487
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 4: the hell it was right, And so I was cutting

488
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 4: a promo and I just couldn't get it. It took me

489
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 4: ten times at least, and I was just and finally

490
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 4: the guys were like a dandy and uh, I think

491
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 4: it was RN Arnt. It was Rn. He just came

492
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 4: right up. He goes, I need to get to the gym,

493
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 4: damn it you. And I was like, I had enough

494
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 4: of your shit. Arn I took off my high heels

495
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 4: and I threw them at him. Oh and right, and

496
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 4: I and that right then and there he just said,

497
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 4: I just I gained a lot of respect and I

498
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 4: apologize and it just takes It was unfortunate. It took

499
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 4: me taking off my shoes and whipping them across the room.

500
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 4: But enough's enough, Right, that's the stuff. A lot of

501
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 4: women had a lot worse. But you know, women had

502
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 4: to endure. But it wasn't just that. It wasn't bad

503
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 4: like that. In the DA, it was really amazing. We

504
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 4: all clicked, we all worked together well. And I traveled

505
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 4: with Paul and Rick.

506
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 3: Oh I be those were they.

507
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 4: Were a good one. But Rick and Paul were good

508
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 4: Paul would Rick thought we were the chauffeurst, so he

509
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 4: always was in the backseat and we always you know,

510
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 4: I had to ride in the passengers, so and Rick

511
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 4: liked his you know, he like getting high, and so

512
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 4: I would always I'd always be barefoot and I'd have

513
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 4: my feet up on the dash, and you know, Ricky

514
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 4: back there, so it'd be like duce, Wow, you could

515
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 4: play piano with them toes and I'm like, oh my god,

516
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 4: I'll never forget that ever and so and then I'd

517
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 4: be like, god, Rick, can you just you know, just

518
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 4: you know, stop the smoking man, I'm getting high. I'm

519
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 4: getting a contact high. And he and all of a sudden,

520
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 4: Paul looks in the river mirror and he looks at

521
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 4: Rick and he does this, and they locked the windows

522
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 4: and they oh it's like a shock. Oh yeah, And

523
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 4: that was one of the roadstories. Yeah maybe yeah, right now, man,

524
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 4: what am I doing?

525
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: Is this the venue? The hotel? What is this? Oh?

526
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 4: The Tanning bed right, that's where it's at. Okay, right,

527
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean good stories, da Paul, he I

528
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 4: mean his his if you funny because I was looking

529
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 4: at one of the clips on Twitter or something someone

530
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 4: posted of Paul and I going back and forth and

531
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 4: me kicking the crap out of him during a promo.

532
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 4: But his promos were pristine then and even now, you know,

533
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 4: he hasn't lost a beat. Amazing man, poly dangerously.

534
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 5: It was my first introduction to him late eighties, early

535
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 5: nineties WCW and seeing what he's done since then, it

536
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 5: has just been unreal. But he's always been one of

537
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 5: the best on the mics. I mean, just right, other.

538
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 4: World, you know when I did my one off or

539
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 4: ae W was sitting there with you know, back there

540
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 4: and with Cody and j MJH. Yeah. What a great guy. Yeah,

541
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 4: great kid, very smart, intelligent, he loves his wrestling, and

542
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 4: he's going to be He's good. He's going to be

543
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: really good. Yeah, you know, And he just turned to me,

544
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: he goes, God, you know, we were talking about wrestling.

545
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 4: He said, Paul's my idol. I said, really, hold on.

546
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 4: He's like really, and I'm like yeah, And I text

547
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 4: Paul and I can throw up the text, but I

548
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 4: can't remember what he said. He said, you just tell

549
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 4: that boy to keep doing what he's doing.

550
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: That's great.

551
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean for being I think he just

552
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 5: turned twenty five or something.

553
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, he's got the world.

554
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, more in there than some

555
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 5: people have all over you.

556
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, naturally, he reminds me of Paul.

557
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, New York background and yeah, man, Yeah,

558
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 5: he says, we have a lot to come.

559
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 4: We're jew bold, Jewish, right, brother.

560
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: That goes a long way. Yeah.

561
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 5: Well, so we we'd like to talk more about the

562
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 5: current stuff. But there is a big event that happened

563
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 5: in your career that we would you.

564
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 4: Know, oh hey, I'm still n w A w A.

565
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: We're going to get to that, We're gonna get sponsored.

566
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 4: Just trying to look at the tickets and what happened.

567
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: Let me get rid of that.

568
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: It's not like Kyle's voice too.

569
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

570
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 5: So especially concerning modern women wrestling, I mean you have

571
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 5: you know, thunder Rosa versus Britt Baker.

572
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: I mean you just have all these incredible matches.

573
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 5: What on a personal level, what does your rivalry with

574
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 5: a Bull and Nagano mean to you?

575
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: And what do you.

576
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 5: Think that that rivalry had impact wise on modern women's wrestling?

577
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: Do you think that was kind of the starting point.

578
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: Yes, so wrestling with w w F at the time,

579
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 4: so I'll just continue with WWE. So, wrestling with w

580
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 4: there was there was a handful of talent, but there

581
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: was only so many that they were going to bring in,

582
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 4: and they were trying to build a women's division. It

583
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 4: was vacant for so many years. So I had a

584
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: tournament to win that against Heidi Lee Morgan, which is

585
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: an amazing woman that doesn't get the credit that is

586
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 4: due there. And so finally, with my history with Japan

587
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: and my heart will always be in Japan. There's going

588
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 4: to be that bond that's like no other. And wrestling

589
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 4: the women. I knew that we needed to bring something

590
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 4: over and change it up, and I was always trying

591
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 4: to change, you know, the trajectory of women's wrestling for

592
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: better and different and meaningful. And hey, notice this, we're

593
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 4: not going anywhere. Yeah the thing right? So got the Okay,

594
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 4: I just asked Vince, you know, can we bring Japanese?

595
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 4: And sure enough, here we go. So bring a bowl

596
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 4: over and even in Japan if it wasn't for them,

597
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: and basically kicking my ass for the three years I

598
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 4: was over there for a year and a half and

599
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: me finally waking up going oh, I'm supposed to fight back, Yeah, okay, hello,

600
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah I gain I gained their respect after waking up

601
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 4: you know, every day with black guys and finally fighting

602
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 4: back and they're like yeah, I'm like oh. And so

603
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 4: she is one of the highlight the pinnacles of my

604
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: wrestling career, absolutely and a dear friend. We still talk

605
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 4: on the you know, social media and stuff, and I'm

606
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 4: trying to get her over here and I'm fighting for

607
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 4: her to be in the hall of fame very well deserved, absolutely,

608
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 4: and so that would be very meaningful because she made

609
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: me who I was, the stronger point in America and

610
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: bringing over Japanese and cross style of that wrestling era.

611
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

612
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 5: Well, and it's kind of a funny and not funny,

613
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 5: but it's kind of an interesting I mean, you were

614
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 5: fighting for women to have an opportunity, you know, and

615
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 5: then once they became more you know, more TV time

616
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 5: in the late nineties, and then it was more like,

617
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 5: now we won't respect. We got more TV time, Now

618
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 5: we won't respect. We're real athletes. We don't have to

619
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 5: do bron painting matches. We don't have to do you know.

620
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 5: And so it's been interesting that like once she well

621
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 5: those aren't.

622
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 4: Really happening when I was in WWE at the time exactly,

623
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: but it was all transitioning after they let me go,

624
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 4: and it just it was changing.

625
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

626
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, So when from just we want the opportunity to

627
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 5: now like okay, well you're given us a little opportunity,

628
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 5: but now we want to show that we can really go.

629
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 5: And I mean, I think it's you know, unfortunately, it's

630
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 5: almost still like women's pay per views are still the

631
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 5: novelty and it shouldn't be that way. I mean, it

632
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 5: should just be a pay per view, you know what

633
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 5: I mean.

634
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 4: Like the Evolutions spent a one off.

635
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: It was a one off.

636
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 5: I mean there's so much hype, so much goodwill around it,

637
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 5: and then.

638
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: Can you imagine I think about that, if that would

639
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: have just continued where we would be right now, A

640
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 4: lot would have changed.

641
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have Dana Brook running around for the twenty

642
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: four seven title.

643
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, I'm still the champion.

644
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: Well yeah, technically you still I am.

645
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 4: Think about it, I'm to say, no joke. I'm just

646
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 4: saying I never got pinned and there wasn't a ref.

647
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: Well true, so then maybe.

648
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, I still have the real title

649
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 4: from WWE WWF. I still have that title and I'm

650
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: still the twenty four to seven. Yeah, she just can

651
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 4: flap her jaw she wants.

652
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: And just be careful though, because her dude might come

653
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: after because he went after that troll online and beat

654
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: his ass.

655
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: So I know nothing about that.

656
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: And oh, well, so well, you mentioned talking about doing

657
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: some stuff with aew Hair recently, and we're coming up

658
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: on the three year anniversary for their show. What would

659
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: you kind of say, I guess what would you what

660
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: great would you give them? As a company that's around

661
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: for three years.

662
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: They still are going through their growing pains, and I

663
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 4: believe that there's room for everybody and it gives them,

664
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 4: I mean, what amazing opportunities for all the talent out

665
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: there to be somewhere that's you know, that's growing at

666
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 4: warp speed, right, but it's there. I mean it's different

667
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: than WWE, yeah, and WA is different than those two.

668
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 4: Impact is different, so you have different varieties, which is

669
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 4: good to have one monopoly.

670
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing is like being a

671
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: wrestling fan for so long, It's all we've known was WWE,

672
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: and of course you still had Impact in NBA and

673
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: all this other stuff, but it's not been brought to

674
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: the forefront like it has been now. So it kind

675
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: of like us growing up as wrestling fans watching this

676
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: WWE and AW is kind of like going back to

677
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: Nitro Mi. Yes, the Monday night Wars. But the thing

678
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: is is we're not having to flip back and forth

679
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: on TV channels because you've got here on Monday night,

680
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: you've got AW on Wednesday night. But I mean it's

681
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: still kind of filling like that same thing, and you

682
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: go back to being like Tony Kahm, being a fan

683
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: of the sport and he knows exactly what he's doing.

684
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: Although it's gonna be one of those things that I

685
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: don't think you could ever overthrow Vince in WWE.

686
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: I don't think.

687
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: So.

688
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: They're they're they're in a class of their own right

689
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: saidecially and respectfully.

690
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: They're kind of like Disney, I mean in the sense,

691
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: you know.

692
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 4: It's cool, there's a lot of opportunities.

693
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and there's a lot.

694
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 4: Of opportunities with ae W. It's totally different. You get

695
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: free reign there almost, you know. So, I mean I've

696
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 4: been both. I've seen it both behind the stages, and

697
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 4: there's a lot of things that Adew needs to grow

698
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 4: and get through, and you know, yeah, I'm excited though.

699
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's a fun time to be a wrestling

700
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: fan because you literally look, there is some sort of

701
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: wrestling programming on seven days a week.

702
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 4: I am most excited for NWA right now.

703
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: Yes, of course Hard Time just coming up on Saturday.

704
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: You could watch that on Fight which, by the way,

705
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: uh fun fact, we are giving away a code to

706
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: watch nw A hard times too on fight so make

707
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: sure you're following us on Twitter. At Battleground HR, you

708
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: could win the code to watch the big show that's

709
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: happening this weekend.

710
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 5: And I was at the Any Means Necessary Special in person.

711
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 5: That was my first wrestling event in a year and

712
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 5: a half. Got to see my favorite tag team, the Hex.

713
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 4: Yes, very interesting. I mean, two knowledgeable women. They were

714
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 4: one of the women that I was agenting in Power

715
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 4: and so it was really great to see how they

716
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 4: worked and did and their accomplishment afterwards. So it made me,

717
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 4: It made me very happy.

718
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you're no stranger than w A. I mean

719
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: you've you've been.

720
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 5: Tied to the company several times throughout your career. We

721
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 5: even remember the match maybe two years ago. I don't

722
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 5: remember the Dezact time, but it was s Tanna Garrett

723
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 5: against Alison k for the Women's World title and you

724
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 5: presented the belt in the good you know killer match.

725
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 5: You also we mentioned you worked with your friend Mickey

726
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 5: James behind the scenes from.

727
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: The Amazing Woman by the way.

728
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 5: Oh yes, Killer, we've interviewed her and Nick and just

729
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 5: they were great. What do you what would you say

730
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 5: was the highlight for you for that.

731
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: Weekend, and are you looking.

732
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: Forward to the next one, the next one.

733
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: The next n w A E power We're assuming there's.

734
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 4: Okay, empower. Okay. So my highlight for that whole weekend

735
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 4: was just one being invited and two kind of stepping

736
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 4: back and watching how everything worked, and watching the camaraderie

737
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 4: between everybody and wanting and having everyone want the others

738
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: to succeed was really nice. And then working with each other.

739
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 4: And I love the fact that it is very different

740
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 4: like the old studio feel right, and it is so

741
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: completely different than the rest. That's what takes my interest there.

742
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: So it doesn't feel like it's competition, right, And so

743
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 4: it working that weekend. Of course my mind was working.

744
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 4: It was going all over, like gosh, if I was

745
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 4: just working, I could what I could do and help

746
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 4: here and do all of that. And that was in

747
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: my head. I wasn't voicing that, And sure enough I

748
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 4: must have been putting.

749
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: That out there in the univarse, because that.

750
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: Thing came back at me twofold, and I was so excited.

751
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 4: I never expected that. I did not expect that call

752
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: at all, And so now it's going to be coming

753
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 4: back to. This is going to be amazing because I'm

754
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: they're very wanting me for my creativity, creative writing, agentying,

755
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 4: and some other stuff.

756
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: Some other stuff like that. I like that in part

757
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: some other stuff.

758
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

759
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that has got us intrigued.

760
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: Remember what we said at the beginning of this interview.

761
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 4: What did I say? What did I say? Is most

762
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 4: important for women.

763
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 3: Long term storytelling? Yes it is.

764
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm we talked off off the interview. I'm from

765
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 5: West Tennessee, so I grew up on Memphis wrestling, Memphis.

766
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 4: We got a good story about Memphis.

767
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go ahead and tell that story while we're

768
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: while we're here.

769
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 4: No, no, we'll talk about wrestling. We'll get batter. Finish it

770
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 4: with Memphis.

771
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't finish it with that.

772
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: But you're you're absolutely right.

773
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 5: When I see that, when I watch Power on Tuesdays

774
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 5: or anything, I mean it.

775
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 3: That's what I feel like. I feel like I'm watching

776
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 3: Saturday morning wrestling, you know. And uh, you're right, it doesn't.

777
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 3: It kind of feels old school, but it feels more

778
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: new school. So y new old new old school.

779
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 4: You want school, Yeah, they're kind of old new school.

780
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, So I guess She answered the question

781
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 5: that do you want to I don't know how you

782
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 5: want to word it.

783
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean we can we get you know, we we

784
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: kind of briefly spoke on it earlier. We talked about

785
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: it off the air and there was like rumors on

786
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: the dirt sheets that Medusa was working with NWA and

787
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't really like I guess said, what the role

788
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: was with the NWA And you kind of talk about

789
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: you doing stuff here and there, So can you confirm

790
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: that rumor that's been on the internet. Are you working

791
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: with n w A and can you tell us what

792
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: that role is?

793
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm working with nw A coming up in December

794
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 4: in Atlanta that whole week and I have creative role.

795
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: This is exciting. So when it comes out at the

796
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: end of it, is it's going to show your name

797
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: next to the matches that you were you were a

798
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: part of.

799
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 4: Correct hopefully If it ain't going well, I'm taking it off.

800
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: There's a couple of botches there his Instagram page.

801
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 4: So yeah, let's say I'm going to pass that one

802
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 4: over to this. Yeah, no, no, no, I will I

803
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 4: will assume full responsibility absolutely.

804
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 3: Who or what uh excites you?

805
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 5: The most about the women's division in in Wa. Is

806
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 5: it a particular person or is it just the potential

807
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 5: or what's drawing you in there.

808
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: What's going to be really exciting and about the women's

809
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 4: division is that I see that there is we always

810
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 4: need direction and we always need help. And I want

811
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 4: them to be able to feel comfortable coming to me

812
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 4: with anything and not be judged that I'm there to

813
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 4: help and create and make them better because that's what

814
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 4: they want to do, right. So I the there's little tidbits,

815
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 4: They're cute, little tidbits, like I want to help them

816
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 4: with their character. As far as walking into the entrance, yeah,

817
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 4: key point knowing where that camera is.

818
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's the toughest thing. Guys. I've talked

819
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: to friends that are wrestlers and it's like that you

820
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: can see be the best wrestler, but if you can't

821
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: figure out where that camera is, you've.

822
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: Got yes in the camera of nowadays. I mean, yes,

823
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 4: it's very important. The handhelds will find you. You need

824
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 4: to know where that key point camera is. Also, it's

825
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 4: telling that story and not being so scriptive is very

826
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 4: important to me. Not that I want to bring back

827
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 4: old school all the time, like, hey, Douce, you have

828
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 4: a twenty minute match with Sherry Martel. You got to

829
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 4: go cut a promo for a minute and a half

830
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 4: and oh, by the way, you're going over okay, thanks.

831
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 4: Oh and by the way, your match is next whatever,

832
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 4: here we go, right. So that's how I was. I mean,

833
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 4: when you know my days of wrestling, and I would

834
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 4: go to my opponent and say, this is my finish,

835
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 4: what is your high spot and what do you Okay,

836
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 4: that's it? Okay, see you auth there. That's what we

837
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 4: would do and create them and bull we didn't talk.

838
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 4: I mean, there wasn't really any long conversations happening in

839
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 4: that match. Yeah, that's the beauty. That's when you know

840
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 4: you can see the magic and the beautiful dance, when

841
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 4: you know you can go out there and wrestle and

842
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 4: feel the movement by each hold that you get and

843
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: knowing that when the momentum and just that feel when

844
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 4: you're throwing someone in the ropes. You know you're being

845
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: thrown in the ropes, so you don't tiptoe, you run

846
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 4: in those ropes knowing something's coming right for sure. So yeah,

847
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: just helping them in so many ways, little things like

848
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 4: that that really tell the big story. Yeah, for sure,

849
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: And I really would love to work with because what

850
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: I learned is that a lot of it the girls

851
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 4: today and the style because I've been gone for twenty

852
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 4: something years, right, is that everything is written out. Every

853
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 4: single fricking move is from A to Z, And so

854
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 4: I basically said, I'm gonna mix it up a bit. Girls.

855
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna ask you, God forbid, if you're out

856
00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 4: there wrestling and you broke your arm and you couldn't finish,

857
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 4: what would you do? What would you do? Just go, oh,

858
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 4: I can't even if you broke all three of these fingers,

859
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 4: you can finish. You're gonna grab your fingers and you're

860
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: still gonna finish. At least you're gonna quick note that

861
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 4: you need to go home right there. You're just gonna

862
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 4: walk out right unless there's something you know bad happening.

863
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 4: I'm not saying to continue while you're hurt. But so

864
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: it's those incidences that are very important to know that

865
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 4: you need to learn how to add lib.

866
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for sure.

867
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 4: Well, and that's where where we've lost that where it's

868
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 4: just so scripted. Yeah, it's everything is you can tell

869
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 4: what's coming in a lot of these matches and it's boring.

870
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

871
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 5: Well, and a lot of the legends they did the

872
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 5: little things right. They're the ones that did the you know,

873
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 5: the character development, walk into the aisle the right way,

874
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 5: knowing where the camera was, knowing how to sell this,

875
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 5: you know, like the little stuff. You add that up

876
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 5: and you become a great performer.

877
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 4: Well, and I'm going to add to that then, because

878
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 4: that is a that's a valuable point. So today's kids.

879
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 4: You know, when I see today's wrestling in women's style

880
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: and my ear, I know I did my job. Yeah, right,

881
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 4: I know I did my job because they take a

882
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 4: little bit of everything. Hopefully the ones that want to

883
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 4: succeed and they grab that and they grow with that. Right,

884
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 4: But it wasn't Yeah, I'm just gonna leave it there.

885
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you what's your opinion of the current

886
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 5: NBA's Women's champion, Camille.

887
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: She scares me, by the way. Yeah, we had her

888
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: in studio right over here where you were, and we

889
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: were like, nice to meet you.

890
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: How are you even Even last week I was at

891
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: a show that she was that she still intimidates me,

892
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, just gonna say and just wait

893
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: for my seat. That's all I got.

894
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 4: Here's the queue. It's pro wrestling, we're entertainment. So what

895
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 4: really got me? You know? I think even as a

896
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 4: healer babyface back then, we'd get crucified if we were

897
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: even seen with the babyface or the hell right. I mean,

898
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 4: now it's entertainment, blah blah. But still there's still that

899
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 4: little you know, you still want to keep that angle going. However,

900
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 4: the most successful people, a lot of them though, too,

901
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 4: is like you got to learn to separate yourself from

902
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 4: your character to who you really are and when are

903
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: you going to turn it on? When you turn it off?

904
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: Right?

905
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 4: So Camille amazing. She's got a great future, she really does.

906
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: I'm very anxious to work with her.

907
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 5: What I've noticed is she's she sells very well her

908
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 5: match at empower and then actually any means necessary both opponents.

909
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 5: Most of her opponents are gonna be smaller than there are, obviously,

910
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 5: but obviously a lot smaller than her. But she made

911
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 5: them look like a million bucks. And that's what a

912
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 5: champion does. Reminds me of Bret Hart. Brings me a flair,

913
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 5: So I mean, she's already got that aspect.

914
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 4: That is one key point, valuable point. And I was

915
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 4: a selling mofo and that is the key. If you

916
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 4: you take those bumps, you sell, sell, know how to

917
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 4: bump correctly, and then every thing else is going to

918
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 4: start molding together.

919
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: Yep.

920
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: And she has that basic, a very huge main basic down. Yeah,

921
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 4: and that excites me because from there it's just everything

922
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 4: else is.

923
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 5: Building absolutely out of the major women's champion, she's in

924
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 5: my opinion, maybe the best seller as far as I guess.

925
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 5: She makes all of her opponents look like a million bucks.

926
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 4: That is key. Yep. You're only as good as your

927
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: opponent for sure.

928
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: And we kind of like to ask this question, no, no, no, no, well,

929
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: I mean we kind of hinted at it, that's what

930
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: you did, kind of hint at it when she's like, yeah, Camille,

931
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: so without any person in any promotion, if you can

932
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: have one more match, who would it be? Any promotion

933
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: you want.

934
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 4: To that's a I mean, I can think of ten,

935
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But here's I'll give you an

936
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: answer on what the prerequisite would be, Okay, is that

937
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 4: I would love to wrestle many, but I would love

938
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:09,479
Speaker 4: to have my final retirement match with somebody that could

939
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 4: take care of me in the ring as well, and

940
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 4: that there's that trust there and just blow the roof off.

941
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 4: So there would be certain things that would need to

942
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 4: happen in the match, of course, just through my life,

943
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 4: you know, different things happening, things that I will do

944
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 4: or won't do anymore, right, So I would need somebody

945
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 4: that I would want to share that with me.

946
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 3: A lot of trust there, Yeah, And I know that.

947
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: The women have a lot of trust for each other, absolutely,

948
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 4: but this I just that would.

949
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: Be my That would be it, and it to be

950
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: a proper.

951
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 4: Because God forbid if I got you know, if I

952
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 4: forgot something in the ring, I'd be like, God, I'm trusting,

953
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 4: what the hell is my next move?

954
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

955
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right?

956
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: And you talk about that, I guess that moment that

957
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: you know when it's right, when it's right. And uh,

958
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: I look back to an interview that we recently just

959
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: had with Booker T and he said that with his

960
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: reality of wrestling, he wants to create a Sherry Martell classic.

961
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: Is that and you mentioned having a mattress Sherry Martell.

962
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: Is that could be something maybe to think about to

963
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: be involved in that somehow someway.

964
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 4: Wouldn't that be interesting?

965
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: Definitely?

966
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: Would Yeah, wouldn't that be interesting? See Booker T and

967
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 4: I are. I mean we're really close. We're good friends,

968
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 4: great history, and an amazing beautiful wife and family too.

969
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 4: Hey never say never. I like this.

970
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 3: I like leaving the door open, like.

971
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: There it is, our foots in the door. We're just

972
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: kind of we haven't broken in just yet. We're foots there.

973
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, a lot of great stories.

974
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 5: So I'm from West Tennessee. I think everybody on the

975
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 5: show who listens to show on im from Jackson from

976
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 5: infests and all this stuff, and uh Medusa and her husband.

977
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 4: Oh we got married and met right, and so I

978
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 4: wanted something that you know, both of us would go.

979
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: We really didn't want any guests. We just wanted ourselves.

980
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 4: And but yet we wanted to include everybody, you know,

981
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 4: like of course my fans and family and traveling. They

982
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 4: couldn't really, So I'm like, okay, we got to find something.

983
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 4: Maybe we can get it on the internet or something

984
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 4: like that or who who who does that? You know? Who? Yeah? Streams?

985
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 4: Right back then, Well, we couldn't find anybody really, And

986
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 4: then I came across and I found something at Memphis Graceland.

987
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 4: Hey record and put your wedding on the internet or

988
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 4: something like what. I went back there, checked it out,

989
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 4: called them, spoke to them. They're like, yeah, we can

990
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 4: put your wedding on the internet and have your family

991
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: see it. And I'm like, really, I said, well, And

992
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: then I had to tell her, you know, well, okay,

993
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 4: you got a minute, let me explain something. And I said, well,

994
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 4: I could I have maybe a couple thousand maybe patching,

995
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 4: And she goes, well, that should be okay, and I said, well,

996
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 4: what about maybe twenty five thousandses. Oh, no, no, our

997
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 4: bandwidth will not hold that. She goes, but let me

998
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 4: talk to him. And she spoke and she goes, well,

999
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 4: you can buy extra bandwidth to do whatever. I'm like, okay,

1000
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 4: let's do that. So, you know, I think it was

1001
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 4: one hundred bucks just for extra bandwidth.

1002
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: Nothing.

1003
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 4: So we got married at Gracelynn and it was the

1004
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 4: most fun, amazing, frickin' party between him and I and

1005
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 4: my husband Alan. He's a command sergeant major and retired

1006
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 4: thirty thirty one years in the army. So and so

1007
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 4: he was still in the army at the time, and

1008
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 4: we found this place. We thought it was great and

1009
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: I'm fast footing here and so we got to the

1010
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 4: end and we're having our pictures taken. We're in front

1011
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 4: of the house at Graceland is beautiful, right the house

1012
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 4: and whoh Elvis, and you know, we just didn't think

1013
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 4: anything of it. And so the wedding planner was there,

1014
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 4: and and this car came by, this black car with

1015
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 4: the dark windows, and we're just like finishing up, you know,

1016
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 4: the pictures, and I'm like, oh, wouldn't that be something

1017
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 4: if that was Priscilla. And she's like, well, you know,

1018
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 4: Priscilla comes around once in a great while, but she

1019
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: never goes to wedding. She never stops or nothing. I'm like, okay,

1020
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 4: we just kind of did our thing and take pictures,

1021
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden the car goes, oh, it

1022
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 4: stops and it backs up, and she's like and I'm well, well,

1023
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: she goes. I don't know who it is. All of

1024
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 4: a sudden, the window rolls down.

1025
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: It's Priscilla.

1026
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not kidding.

1027
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 4: So there's Alan. He's standing there and he has he's

1028
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 4: getting you know, he has his blues one from the

1029
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 4: army and I'm in my dress and she's just staring

1030
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 4: out the window and the wedding planner walks up. She goes, ma'am,

1031
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 4: are you everything okay? She goes yes, and she goes,

1032
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 4: I was just I really liked your dress. But and

1033
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, yeah, right, you're probably having a flashback thinking

1034
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 4: that's Elvis his army outfit, and You're like, oh baby,

1035
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 4: right yeah, and I'm like, oh my gosh. And then

1036
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 4: Alan's like he walks up, he goes, that's Priscilla. That's

1037
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 4: freaking Priscilla Presley. Oh my god. Like I'm like, oh wow.

1038
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 4: And then she's like wants to get out of the car,

1039
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 4: and so we take our pictures and she's grabbing his

1040
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 4: hand like squeezing it, and it's where the picture was amazing.

1041
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 5: You're like, I'm i gonna have to fight Priscilla Presley.

1042
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: The steps.

1043
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, her for my husband when we just got married.

1044
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 4: But I mean, how does that? I mean, that's amazing.

1045
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 4: I got a picture with her and everything.

1046
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 5: Where did you it was the wedding in the house

1047
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 5: or was it out back or like.

1048
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 4: It was like out back and and then the everything

1049
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 4: was on the front.

1050
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 5: Okay, cool, like slidg in the jungle room or like

1051
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 5: I don't know, bestairs that's locked off that nobody can

1052
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 5: go into.

1053
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 4: We did tour the house though, Yeah it's pretty.

1054
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: Did you get to be like, hey, I'm so and

1055
00:51:58,920 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: so can I go upstairs?

1056
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: And look?

1057
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 4: I tried pecan, Yeah, it's blocked off. They won't let you.

1058
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: I went down this rabbit hole the other day on

1059
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: YouTube watching somebody like recreate the upstairs and like a

1060
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: virtual tour of upstairs, and I was like, maybe Elvis

1061
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: is up there and that's why nobody wants And Priscilla

1062
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: was coming to drop off a peanut butter and bacon

1063
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: sandwich or something.

1064
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 4: Bacon that sounds like Alan, would you eat something like that? Probably? Yeah,

1065
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 4: I think his.

1066
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 5: I think his uh the sandwich of try, I think

1067
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 5: it was peanut butter and banana.

1068
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 4: I think that's that's butter and banana.

1069
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I think we put bacon on it because

1070
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 3: we're you know.

1071
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: That's probably for us. Uh So, of course this weekend

1072
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: it's a big event n w A Hard Times too.

1073
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: You can watch it on fights still grab that buy

1074
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: it on fight or if you'd like to win a copy,

1075
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: we're giving away a code on our Twitter right now

1076
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: at Battleground IHR thanks to our friends at fight.

1077
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 4: And uh, yes, Mike Webber is an amazing man.

1078
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: Yes, Mike is great.

1079
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 3: He's been a friend of the podcast.

1080
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 4: Yes, we make I wouldn't be We're probably half of

1081
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 4: where I'm at if it wasn't for Mike.

1082
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 3: Really.

1083
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's another great story, man.

1084
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: We'll have to save that.

1085
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what, No, well, yeah, I'll just

1086
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 4: kind of leave it there. So, but that great story

1087
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 4: is in my biography, which will be coming out spring

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Speaker 4: of twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: That was gonna be our next thing. What what is

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Speaker 1: new on the horizon? And if we get the autobiography

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Speaker 1: coming out? And uh, is there anything else? Like is

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Speaker 1: there a possible? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Where can people keep up with you online? And we'll

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Speaker 3: have you back.

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Speaker 4: In m A d USA. So, I mean you look,

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Speaker 4: it's on ig, it's on Twitter, it's on my MEDUSA

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Speaker 4: dot com, on my website.

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Speaker 3: Perfect. Yeah, we'll have to get you back in closer

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Speaker 3: to time and talk about the book.

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Speaker 4: I just when I'm doing a book tour. That'd be cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, let us know and we'll we'll definitely

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Speaker 1: get it set up well again NBA hard times this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Get it, get it, get it, get it, get it.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be on fight. You can win that code

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Speaker 1: with us. And again it's it's we don't usually get

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Speaker 1: starstruck when we do these interviews, but uh, it's been

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Speaker 1: an honor to have you in the show with us today.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. I was really excited, like,

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Speaker 4: is it gonna work?

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Speaker 2: Him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna get Okay, great, we're here.

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Speaker 1: We've made it all happen.

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Speaker 4: Wait a, whose championship belts are these?

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Speaker 1: Here? These are our podcast belts. Wait wait, podcast we

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Speaker 1: went and got new belts made in which we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about something interesting off the air about these belts.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 1: But again, I mean it's literally an honor to have

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Speaker 1: you on the show and we'll definitely have to do

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Speaker 1: this again.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, yes, sir, both of you. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: And you're wearing an NWA shirt, which is cool.

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Speaker 1: You gotta wrap the brand.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 6: We hope you enjoyed today's episode of the Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 6: Make sure you give it five stars and a nice review.

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