WEBVTT - Ep. 106: THC Daily Quarantine-Cast 2: Vasectomies, Uno the One-Legged Beaver, Win a Podcast, and Why Soil Matters with Mark Kenyon

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hey, everybody, another episode of the Daily Quarantine Cast

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<v Speaker 1>that we're here where we're actually not together, we're apart.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sad, but we're soldiering on. I gotta filled the

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<v Speaker 1>engineer here with me and say, hey Phil, Hello, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna hear a lot of things to today's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for checking in for day number two of the

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<v Speaker 1>Daily Quarantine Cast. We got Mark Kenyon to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>soil health on the back forty, our plans for the

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<v Speaker 1>back forty, for what we're gonna do with the show

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<v Speaker 1>now that we can actually go to the property and

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<v Speaker 1>and the core coronavirus has kind of screwed us on that.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about that with Mark. We talked about vasectomys.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about whether Phil wants to get one or

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<v Speaker 1>not my my opinion. Stay tuned. That's a big, big

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<v Speaker 1>deal and we're also going to get to most importantly

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<v Speaker 1>the pot win a podcast contest from episode one. That's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a big deal. You're gonna hear that today

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<v Speaker 1>as well. The th h C Daily Quarantine Cash rolls

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<v Speaker 1>on right now. Enjoy. H Hey everybody, Ben O'Brien, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking uh, Episode two of the Daily THHD podcast. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what you're listening to. And it's gonna be awkward for

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<v Speaker 1>me for a while because I am in uh my

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<v Speaker 1>child's nursery and I have on on the computer with me,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Kenyan, say hi, Mark Kenyon, Hi, Mark Kenyon, and

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<v Speaker 1>fill the engineer. I am also here where we could

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<v Speaker 1>see each other via camera devices attached to our computers,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're speaking into separate microphones. But we're in three

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<v Speaker 1>different rooms. Is that correct, boys? True? Uh huh. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be super awkward, probably not a great podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have to do it because I already told

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<v Speaker 1>you guys were gonna do a daily podcast, and so

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<v Speaker 1>here we are. So Mark Kenyan has actually been I

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<v Speaker 1>found out earlier today, living under quarantine for the last

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<v Speaker 1>six years. Yeah, this is no this is no big

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<v Speaker 1>deal for me, man. I'm used to it as a

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<v Speaker 1>as a freelance outdoor podcasts or media guy. Right, or

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<v Speaker 1>you basically just live in your house and leave it

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<v Speaker 1>only to get food and probably water. Yeah, yeah, hunt

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<v Speaker 1>shop and that's about it. But the living the safe lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>For a long time, since the fall of two thousand thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been working at home and my wife started working

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<v Speaker 1>at home in two thousand fourteen, so we're experts at

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<v Speaker 1>this whole lifestyle. You could say, oh, that's good, I'm glad,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy. Could you just give a few people because

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<v Speaker 1>so it's just so you know, yesterday we recorded uh

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<v Speaker 1>episode one of the THHC Daily podcast Quarantine Cast. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been calling it. Do you like that name? Phil? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's super creative quarantine Cast. It's it's a combination of

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<v Speaker 1>the word podcast and quarantine. Yeah. I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>think a better option, like like casting team. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>not good. No, that's terrible. Um. Okay, so we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go with that good self awareness Phil. He's got to

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<v Speaker 1>have it around me. He can't not have it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna do a bunch of things. But yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the actual mediator studio and the Mediator

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<v Speaker 1>offices and um, they kicked us out. So now we

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<v Speaker 1>can't go in. We're we're quarantined from going into the office.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we're or on some fancy pants uh computers

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<v Speaker 1>thing called squad cast. H they're not a sponsor, but

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<v Speaker 1>we shut him out anyway, because it's amazing that we

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<v Speaker 1>have this technology, right Mark Kenyon. It's tremendous. It really

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<v Speaker 1>is tremendous, tremendous. But like I tell you, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so back what we were just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a second ago. I've been doing these virtual podcasts for

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<v Speaker 1>three thirty nine episodes so far, and they're not that awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>So you'll you'll be fine, You'll get through it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know what to do with social cues.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to do with my hands. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any pants pants. That's exactly what I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna ask. The question is do you have pants?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I went through a huge paradigm shift when I

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<v Speaker 1>went from pants lest podcasts to with pants podcasts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know where to put the microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know whether we're pants and then maybe eventually underwear.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be it's gonna be a challenge. I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm concerned both for the quality of the show and

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<v Speaker 1>then just my own mental state. Um, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any tips? Can you just go through the tips and

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<v Speaker 1>tricks that somebody might use to get through this time

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<v Speaker 1>since you've been basically living this exact experience for better

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<v Speaker 1>part of six years. Yeah, you know, in all seriousness,

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<v Speaker 1>probably the biggest thing that I did that helped my

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<v Speaker 1>just effectiveness from a work from home standpoint was when

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<v Speaker 1>I shifted from approaching it is like a novelty thing

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<v Speaker 1>too with an approaching like oh no, you're still working.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I first started doing this, I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just wake up whenever I wake up, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>work when I want. Hey, if I want to take

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<v Speaker 1>a two hour lunch break and watch Game of Thrones,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'll do that. Um. So that was back

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<v Speaker 1>in two thirteen when I first went full time on

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<v Speaker 1>my own. That doesn't work real well. So what I

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<v Speaker 1>started doing is pretending like I still have to go

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<v Speaker 1>into an office and do all those things. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have like a morning routine. I get up early at

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<v Speaker 1>the time I want to wake up. I do a workout,

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<v Speaker 1>I shower, I eat breakfast. I put on real person clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>Just putting on real clothes makes a huge difference. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>pajama working from home is at least ten less productive

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<v Speaker 1>than regular clothing work from home. So do that. That's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>That's helped me a lot. And then you know, schedule

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<v Speaker 1>as if you really you know, you can take some flexibility,

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<v Speaker 1>but schedule your day still as if you were in

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<v Speaker 1>an office. That helps me. I have a calendar, I

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<v Speaker 1>have it locked down. My wife knows that when it's

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<v Speaker 1>regular working hours, I'm going to be doing stuff. Um

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<v Speaker 1>at least, putting those structures in place, I think helps

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<v Speaker 1>you avoid the many ah oh temptations. Right, there's temptations

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<v Speaker 1>when you're working at home that you just wouldn't otherwise have.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will also tell you that working from home,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have a lot less distractions compared

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<v Speaker 1>to some offices too. Like when I come into the

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<v Speaker 1>mediator office, I always wonder, like, how do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>get anything done because you're constantly talking and stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>just sit in my office all by myself all day,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm pretty darn good, I guess when I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have anyone to chat with. So definitely, you've definitely been

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<v Speaker 1>living the quarantine life, Like how do you get things

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<v Speaker 1>done when you've been talking and interacting with other actual

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<v Speaker 1>humans that have different life experiences than you. What a

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<v Speaker 1>weird experience, very weird. That's not too bad. So you

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<v Speaker 1>told me you're gonna on your social media. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>share some tricks and tips for being alone. Um, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're an expert, an expert on being alone. Yes, that is.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife and I are hermits by nature, so this

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<v Speaker 1>fits right into our whole grand plan. Good all right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get going, Phil, can you give us just

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<v Speaker 1>your feelings about the quarantine and what are your emotions.

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<v Speaker 1>People are going to be looking to you, filthy engineer,

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<v Speaker 1>to to to really lead them emotionally, mentally, maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>physically eventually to Uh that's just that's just poor decision making.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's it's not their fault. You have reached an

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<v Speaker 1>into their hearts and minds and captivated them. So could

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<v Speaker 1>you please just kind of give everybody a pep talk? Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say that, Um, you know I

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<v Speaker 1>I love my children. Let me just start off by

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<v Speaker 1>saying that beautiful novel. Um, you know, loving change my

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<v Speaker 1>life in so many positive ways. I've just been kind

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<v Speaker 1>of imagining this quarantine though. Um. Uh, if I if

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have children and all the man all the TV,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be watching all the all the movies and games

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be playing. Uh, quarantining with with with children is

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<v Speaker 1>a completely different experience. My kid. Uh. The Governor Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Bullock of Montana just just canceled school for two weeks. Um. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think feel like it's only a matter of time

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<v Speaker 1>before my my youngest daycare gets canceled as well. So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know when when when when you're hunkered down with

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<v Speaker 1>your family, um for multiple days, it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's an experience. It definitely shows you what you're made

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<v Speaker 1>out of. Um. And you know, I'll check back within

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<v Speaker 1>these daily podcasts to let you know how I'm doing,

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<v Speaker 1>how I'm I'm holding up, and I'm sure you guys

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<v Speaker 1>will too. Yeah. No, it's good. I mean, there's it's

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<v Speaker 1>I like to joke. It's hard for me to be

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<v Speaker 1>serious sometimes. But this is a weird, a weird time.

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<v Speaker 1>We I just went out to we went into the

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<v Speaker 1>office to gather our things, um for the last time

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, and then I took my family out

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<v Speaker 1>to eat to breakfast and it was awkward. People I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be near each other. People didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>it's people were looking or had It's almost like they

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<v Speaker 1>had a measuring tape for six ft. You know, social

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<v Speaker 1>distancing being what it is. And so it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it. After all this is over, I imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>we will look at our daily lives, the things in

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<v Speaker 1>our lives that probably we took for granted, right sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in traffic, or going to work and being annoyed by

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that's sitting next to you, or or thanks

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Kenyan has no idea about, uh go standing in

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<v Speaker 1>line for coffee without having to worry about who's around

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<v Speaker 1>you or how close to you they are. Um, all

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<v Speaker 1>those little things. I hope that we can go through

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<v Speaker 1>this time, do what we gotta do to get around

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<v Speaker 1>and above this pandemic, and then go back to to real,

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<v Speaker 1>real normal life, but then be able to look back

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<v Speaker 1>at this and say, man, I appreciate the little things

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<v Speaker 1>going to the grocery store and feeling calm or you

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<v Speaker 1>know anything. Folks in New York City can't even go

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<v Speaker 1>out to a restaurant or a bar at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Um are closed today fifteen minutes ago for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of however long. Yeah, here in Michigan. So it's it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all gonna be okay. As as somebody told me

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<v Speaker 1>earlier to day via text, Um, you know, we're being

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<v Speaker 1>called on to sit on our couches and we can

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<v Speaker 1>all do that, but there's also people that work hourly,

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<v Speaker 1>there's people that have jobs that um have international distribution channels.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many things that this affects. And UM, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my heart goes out of everybody that whose lives this

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<v Speaker 1>is either made very very hard or completely um destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>or thrown out there for however long this lasts. So

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully you can come out to THHC on a daily

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<v Speaker 1>basis and get some good hunting stories and some randomness

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<v Speaker 1>and and um escape from it just for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's all we can really offer at this

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<v Speaker 1>this point. And if I got to do it from

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<v Speaker 1>my kids nursery, which is where I'm at right now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'll do. And Yeah, I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>that perspective is super important, that like we're all lucky

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<v Speaker 1>enough to be able to be able to do this

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<v Speaker 1>when they're Yeah, just like you said, there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>service industry workers and that you know, are ey're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lose their jobs or just have an incredible amount of

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<v Speaker 1>uncertainty over the next few months. Uh, And I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even imagine what's what that's like. So you know, um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so well, yeah, I just personally, I just appreciate it

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who's still out there grinding and making a living

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<v Speaker 1>and just trying their best. So we're gonna do some

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<v Speaker 1>crazy things this week and next week for you. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them, I've decided, Mark, I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion do this. I've decided to do a contest

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<v Speaker 1>because folks that know lately I've really got addicted to contests.

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<v Speaker 1>I might need help. Are you addicted to trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get people partaking your contests? I think that's what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But are you also participating in other people's contests? No? No,

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<v Speaker 1>just my contests? But I would, I could, I could.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm addicted to giving things away. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>give everything I see. I'm like, I'll give it away.

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<v Speaker 1>I give you, give it away to everybody. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm addicted to. It feels so good. Um, but we

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<v Speaker 1>have to do we have to go over one the

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<v Speaker 1>last give away from our episode one hundred. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do it in a different way than what we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing now. But Um, from episode one hundred, we did

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<v Speaker 1>four giveaways. This is our last one. We have to announce.

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<v Speaker 1>But before that, I have an idea, mark and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see you have a child, you like to

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<v Speaker 1>hunt turkeys. I want to see your thoughts whether this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good idea. I thought that I we would

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<v Speaker 1>do a hand draw if you look at the screen

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<v Speaker 1>there or hand drawn turkey contest. You know how you

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<v Speaker 1>draw a turkey with your hand? Trace your hand? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I do that all time. Yeah. I thought we would

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<v Speaker 1>have everybody do one. And then however you make it

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the background is, you decorate the turkey, give it

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<v Speaker 1>a personality, to give it a name. Uh, draw the background.

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<v Speaker 1>So anybody can participate in this, children, adults, young adults,

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<v Speaker 1>young children, it doesn't matter. Get a hand and a pencil.

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<v Speaker 1>You're good to go. Um and that will get as

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<v Speaker 1>many people to draw that and the most creative one

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<v Speaker 1>wins some awesome prize. You feel like that's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. I got a friend who was missing

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<v Speaker 1>one of his fingers, though, so will he be penalized

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<v Speaker 1>in any kind of way if he draws like a

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<v Speaker 1>gimpy fanless turkey or anything like that. No, let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you when. Well, here's a story that will help

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<v Speaker 1>that out. When I was a kid, I was in

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<v Speaker 1>like the third grade, we had a contest to draw

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<v Speaker 1>draw a constellation of our own. Right, they give you

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of paper with a bunch of dots it

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<v Speaker 1>that are supposed to be stars, And my dad got

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<v Speaker 1>ahold of that, and we then you had to write

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<v Speaker 1>a story about what that constellation meant. So I got

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<v Speaker 1>this hold of this constellation. I started drawing a beaver

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<v Speaker 1>on this constantly had a tail the whole beaver body.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't have enough stars to draw through four

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<v Speaker 1>legs on the beaver. I can only draw one leg

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<v Speaker 1>with the amount of stars that I had. So my

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<v Speaker 1>dad and I wrote a story called you Know the

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<v Speaker 1>One Legged Beaver to go along with this constellation. The

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<v Speaker 1>story was that that the you know the beaver was

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<v Speaker 1>swimming out in a lake and it got really cold.

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<v Speaker 1>A blizzard came in and got really cold. Three of

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<v Speaker 1>his legs were frozen in the ice and he had

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<v Speaker 1>to chew off those three legs to survive and then

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<v Speaker 1>swim back to shore with just the one leg. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So for yeah, unbelievable tale. So for your for your buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>that's her. He can have as many feathers as he

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<v Speaker 1>has fingers. It's all about how you make what you

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<v Speaker 1>make what you can from the circumstances you're given. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting out there we'll talk more about that contest

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. What do you I'll I'm gonna figure out

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<v Speaker 1>something out really cool, hopefully some first light gear. I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking, I haven't talked the first Light about this,

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<v Speaker 1>so this was They're gonna be probably mad at me,

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<v Speaker 1>but hey, it's quarantine time. We tell here what's new.

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<v Speaker 1>We take? Uh, we take a first light jacket, a

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<v Speaker 1>first light puffy jacket or or whatever say it, say

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<v Speaker 1>it Brooks down or um, any kind of any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of jacket that you would normally wear, and and on

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<v Speaker 1>the back, you know how, say like sliced alone in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the first Rocky movie he had those like

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<v Speaker 1>Italian leather jackets with a big tiger on the back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking we would take the turkey drawling and have

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<v Speaker 1>it have its screen printed on the back, a really

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<v Speaker 1>big like that tiger. No better way to increase value

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<v Speaker 1>than a really nice Brooks jacket than screen printed turkey

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<v Speaker 1>on the back. Huh. I mean, I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why you wouldn't do that. Who wouldn't want that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. I don't know why you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that. I that's how I feel. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to I just want an audience of

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<v Speaker 1>one here, uh where you tell me what you think

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<v Speaker 1>about this idea. Yeah, I give you two thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan. My son will submit a turkey drone.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh alright, I like it, all right, and if I win,

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<v Speaker 1>damn it. I want the screen printed turkey on my jacket.

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<v Speaker 1>I Like I said, I have no way of knowing

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<v Speaker 1>or the first Now you've committed, there's a verbal contract

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<v Speaker 1>out there, so anyway, check back later to see if

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<v Speaker 1>I still have a job, and maybe you'll get a

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<v Speaker 1>turkey jacket. There's no way to know. And uh that

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<v Speaker 1>would be rest in peace to you know the one

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<v Speaker 1>that could be Everre. Uh he fought hard, but he

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<v Speaker 1>fought hard. So Phil, you's still there, Phil? Yeah, I'm here, Phil.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta go over we. Mark probably doesn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>this because he's too busy to listen to THHD on

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<v Speaker 1>a weekly basis. How by the way, it's amazing you

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<v Speaker 1>get that. You get a fill and I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>anyone been podcast. I kind of just took Phil like

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<v Speaker 1>nobody gave him to me. I have just over time

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<v Speaker 1>done things to kind of lay claim to him. Also

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<v Speaker 1>been very nice to him to keep him around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it could have been. It could have been a lot worse. There.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like my wife's it's our anniversary today, actually

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<v Speaker 1>been congrats, it's it's our six wedding anniversary for my

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<v Speaker 1>wife today. So uh, I love you girl. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you don't listen to my podcasts either, but I love

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<v Speaker 1>you anyway. It's okay, So we gotta before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to our our hunting story, we got to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>uh the win a podcast giveaway from episode one. Now, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>we what we did was we had four different giveaways

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate our hundreds episode so we could have fun

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<v Speaker 1>with our listeners. And this this idea was to give

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<v Speaker 1>away my old podcast gear, my zoom record or all

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<v Speaker 1>my audio checting, your headsets, all the things you need

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<v Speaker 1>to have your own portable podcast kit, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>have me as your first guest on your new podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and have Phil and I give you a consultation on

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<v Speaker 1>how to get started programs. You need cool of things.

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<v Speaker 1>So away for someone to have a leg up, as

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<v Speaker 1>it were, to start their own podcasts still got to

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<v Speaker 1>do the work, but we were willing to help him out.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and and all we asked was that they write

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred words to th HC at the Mediator dot

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<v Speaker 1>com and they told us why what the podcast wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>why they would want to do it uh And we

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<v Speaker 1>got hundreds of submissions I think upwards of four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>submissions of what UH podcast people wanted to do. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was happy with that. Joe Ferronado, who was also

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<v Speaker 1>quarantined at his home right now, UM and I sat

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<v Speaker 1>last Friday and and read almost every single one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and we came down to a top three. Um and

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna have and and Mark, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>get your vote on these one I read them, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna read the top three right now. And that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go on then at

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<v Speaker 1>beny would be three or one on my Instagram account

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna put a poll up for people to

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<v Speaker 1>vote on the best podcast idea. So you guys gotta

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<v Speaker 1>listen up. Does that all make sense? Mark? Makes sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds cool? So I'm gonna read the three um here

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<v Speaker 1>to you, and I want to get your reaction and

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<v Speaker 1>Phil's reaction to each one of them, all right, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna go you guys, you guys good with that? Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're good with it. I knew you would be all

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<v Speaker 1>right for the first one, the first finalist, Phil, will

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<v Speaker 1>you be able to put drum rolls in here? Of course? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Put a drum roll right now? All right here, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. One out of eight drum rolls. That's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be that they're gonna be in this episode. Mark doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know when I for a drum roll, and I keep

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<v Speaker 1>talking and I need another drum roll. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>keep talking and I need another drum roll. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>good with executing the drum roll. Uh. Finality is that anyway? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Ian Russell, Kamara and Ryan Russell wrote in with this one,

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<v Speaker 1>we are the Russell Brothers and our proposed podcast. The

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<v Speaker 1>Whole Animal focuses on new and interesting ways the harvest

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<v Speaker 1>resources from game animals that most most people simply throw

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<v Speaker 1>away with the help of guest chefs, hunters, and artists.

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<v Speaker 1>Each season focuses on a single animal, and each episode

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<v Speaker 1>explores novel ways to engage with a part of that

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<v Speaker 1>animal that hunters typically discard from utilitarian to down ray silly.

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<v Speaker 1>The Whole Animal Podcast is a show like no other.

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<v Speaker 1>Learn how to make dear spine, putter's turkey feet, poker chips,

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<v Speaker 1>and duck blood soup, and a podcast coming to your

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<v Speaker 1>feed soon. The Whole Animal Podcast by the Russell Bros. Phil,

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about that one? That one is

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<v Speaker 1>a great idea of the just coming from a non

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<v Speaker 1>hunter's perspective, though, I'm wondering what you guys think about

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<v Speaker 1>the the longitivity of something like that, Like how how

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<v Speaker 1>deep could they go? How many animals could they cover?

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<v Speaker 1>How many parts could they dive into? Yeah, I mean sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you could do every every game animal you can think of,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do. I mean, I'd like to hear a dove,

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<v Speaker 1>or I'd like to hear a I mean, obviously a

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<v Speaker 1>wild turkey. But there's got there's a million things. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the way they broke it down, like you have

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<v Speaker 1>a season and then you have an animal. You take

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<v Speaker 1>an animal and you break it into episodes, break it

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<v Speaker 1>into parts. It's it kind of has a nice little

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<v Speaker 1>ring to it that way. Mark, It's a very cool idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I do wonder if, like the novelty of it would

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<v Speaker 1>wear off at some point. And this is me being

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<v Speaker 1>overly critical, so overly critical saying that. But at first

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<v Speaker 1>of great idea. Um, but yeah, I wonder if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it would be a little bit hard to

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<v Speaker 1>execute on making every one of those fascinating. When could

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<v Speaker 1>I listen to number eight of how to use a

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<v Speaker 1>duck and we're getting down to like using a duck

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<v Speaker 1>foot for a bookmark or something. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm might tire of that at some point, but maybe not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know. But that's that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we're here. I think that's one of the best ideas

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<v Speaker 1>we've got because I think if done correctly, If done correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be could have a lot of longevity. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you did seasons, if you just kind of did

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<v Speaker 1>one every once in a while, um, and it can

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<v Speaker 1>be an encyclopedia of knowledge for for each annel to

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<v Speaker 1>which I think makes it evergreen, which makes it great.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. I like it. Number two. We will

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<v Speaker 1>all vote on this. It's not gonna meet anything, but

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<v Speaker 1>it at least give people what we think. Number two.

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<v Speaker 1>This comes from Liz Krieger. She says, picture this, Remember

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<v Speaker 1>the hunting community that has often misunderstood and misrepresented. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>passionate about the hunting, conservation, hunting community, conservation and family,

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<v Speaker 1>navigating how to juggle home life, competitive work environment, and

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<v Speaker 1>for filling this insatiable need to pursue their own food

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<v Speaker 1>and pull their own weight out of doors. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Liz Krieger. I live in north central p A.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a mother, wife, wildlife biologists, hunter and conservationist

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<v Speaker 1>who's trying to keep a sense of humor while navigating

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<v Speaker 1>a changing conservation climate. Interesting. I'm interested in discussing habitat management,

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<v Speaker 1>honey strategies, and home life from the lens of a

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<v Speaker 1>female millennial. That's Liz Kreeger. When you think about that,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Kennon, straight off the bat, we don't need another

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<v Speaker 1>millennial out there ruining the world. So you and me

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<v Speaker 1>are not kidding. I know, Phil. I I found that

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. Phil is only twenty nine years old?

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<v Speaker 1>Is right in the right, Phil, Yeah, that's right. I

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. You did not know that, so

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<v Speaker 1>I assumed you're in your forties. I've seen so many

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<v Speaker 1>people illustrate your your face that I've just I there's

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<v Speaker 1>no concept of how old you are anymore. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's good to know that you've seen so many

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<v Speaker 1>illustrations of me that you have complete face blindness about

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<v Speaker 1>over my my real face. Yeah, I pictured just that

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<v Speaker 1>illustration of that dude Hice and the cope. Yeah, man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I see. He does seem more mature than us, Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. Yeah. Yeah, his like his children seem well behaved. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's for sure. Mine is a wild man. Al Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's number two. There's that's one and two. Other

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<v Speaker 1>than other than the whole millennial thing. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great idea. Yeah, I think I think that could

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<v Speaker 1>be a podcast that could be very very important to

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<v Speaker 1>a to a small group of hunters. All Right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great perspective to share. Well done, Liz. Uh. This

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<v Speaker 1>one is from Trey. I'm gonna say his last name

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<v Speaker 1>is pronounced Paku because it's p i c o u

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<v Speaker 1>phil p i c o u. H. Yeah, it sounds

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 1>that's close enough. Paco. Probably we'll go with pa alright.

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Pequ He's a PhD. Trey Pecu is a PhD research scientist.

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:50.919
<v Speaker 1>He says this. He says a lot of things, but

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.919
<v Speaker 1>this is his his pitch. I would like to do

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast about the science of hunting slash the science

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<v Speaker 1>of hunting related topics. I would interview physicists, biologists, chemists,

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and whatever other aspects are necessary for the listener to

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 1>understand the hardcore science about the topic at hand. What

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:09.440
<v Speaker 1>do I mean by this? An example of a topic

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to explore is camouflage. This will probably be

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.199
<v Speaker 1>a multi episode series. It will start out with the

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 1>science behind site, such as it works, the physics and biology,

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 1>and how it evolved pray and predator. Then it would

0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 1>progress to what wavelengths and patterns game species and predators,

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:28.120
<v Speaker 1>see how camouflage works in the natural world, and how

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 1>it could be applied for the hunter. Lastly, I would

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<v Speaker 1>talk to leaders in the hunting and military camouflage industry

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 1>to see how they apply and if they apply real

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>science when designing their patterns. Basically, the science the scientists

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 1>in me wants to dive deep into the science behind

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of hunting related concepts that people usually just

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:50.360
<v Speaker 1>gloss over hand, wave away, or try to explain using

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 1>catching sounding buzzwords, which I do a lot. Uh me

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Ben o Bran anyway, that's my pitch. I hope you enjoy.

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Sure Ku, So Phil the Engineer, what do you think, Buddy?

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I like that one a lot, coming more from from

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>a non Hunters point of view. Um, I think that

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>one has like like the first one, I'm not sure about.

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I think this one sounds like it could last for

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>as long as they wanted it to and uh cover

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 1>an infinite amount of topics. I think I think this

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 1>is a great one. Mark Kenyon, I'm gonna have to

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:32.120
<v Speaker 1>second that this one is my favorite. I like, I'm

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 1>personally fascinated with scientific looking at things from scientific lens.

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Three scientific lens in this would like, like Phil said,

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 1>there's longevity here. It's a unique angle, but not too

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>much of a stick um or too gimmicky. I like it.

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I like it. I do like it too. I like

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 1>all three of these. Um, I would say, after you know,

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 1>it's cool. Mark. I don't know if you've ever kind

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>of delve in anything like this, but you know, for

0:26:58.280 --> 0:26:59.880
<v Speaker 1>the amount of people that listen to some of our show,

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>for to sit down and read hundreds of people kind

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>of pitching why they want to be a podcaster or

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.160
<v Speaker 1>why they want to do something, you get to learn

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about everyone, what they want to hear,

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 1>what they want to say, kind of what their dreams are,

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.679
<v Speaker 1>what you know, what they've been thinking about, stewing on

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:20.120
<v Speaker 1>what they think they might be able to do. And

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and I felt like I learned a lot about um

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:26.120
<v Speaker 1>our our community, the people that listen to this show.

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:27.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure that people are listen to your show

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and the Medior podcast and Remy Warren's show and Steve

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 1>Show like all that stuff. So I felt like I

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>learned a lot about everyone um and to that to

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>that end, I would say about a third of the

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.679
<v Speaker 1>people that wrote in wanted to do a podcast from

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 1>the perspective of a non hunter UM or from a

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 1>new hunter, let's say, like adult onset type of approach.

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>And so I learned that, you know, old Fill the

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>engineer here. However, we can get them out in the

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>woods in the next little bit of time. It's gonna

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.119
<v Speaker 1>be a good thing for everybody. Not only do well,

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll be able to mess with Phil out in the

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>out of doors, but um people would get to hear

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 1>what he goes through from trying to find a hunter

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>safety course to to taking one to going out and hunting,

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>to get your license, to learn about firearms and archery,

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>a tackle, and then just all the all the other

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>conundrums that come up. So um, that was one thing

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I learned. The other thing I learned is like, if

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>you really want to have a podcast out there, go

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and do it. Like the worst thing is is not

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>is not trying. Um, if you fail, you fail. Oh

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>yeah man. And I started my podcast with less than

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 1>a hundred dollars of equipment, and I essentially I'm still

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>using I've I've bought stuff and upgraded it and then

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>went back to my original setup. I am using in

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>eighty dollar microphone on my computer to do a podcast.

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>That's I mean, as you know, it reaches a lot

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>of people for no money. I mean it it's you

0:28:56.720 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>do not do not feel like money or something special

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>about you is keeping you from being will do a podcast?

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Anyone can do it. Come to it with a good

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>idea and some stick tutiveness, and uh do the kind

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 1>of things like you're doing Ben, connecting and engaging with

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 1>an audience, and you can you can really do some

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>cool stuff with it. Yeah, and what a great time,

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>As it turns out, what a great time to start

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>a podcast. I feel like the coronavirus, it's going to

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>be a time where a lot of babies are conceived.

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Just saying, guys, yeah, just saying, watch out, Phil, just

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>watch out. You guys have talked about vasecton used on

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 1>this podcast, No, we probably should. That's something that is

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>a very it's a very hot topic in my householder.

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm I mean, I'm the one doing the pressuring

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.239
<v Speaker 1>around here. I'm like, let's cut that thing off. Like

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>my wife's my wife's wanted. I'm squeamish. I don't I

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>don't want. I don't want more kids. But I also

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>just do not like the idea of you know, sy

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>so I I I love it. I'm gonna tell the

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>doctor don't put me under. If there's anything that you

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>can actually make you feel the feel the pain even more,

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I want that drug. That's that's Phil for you. Phil

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>is the massacrest. I'm cutting my open doc speechless. Phil

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:16.959
<v Speaker 1>speak going to be a good backcountry hunter man like

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>proud can't wait. Uh No, I'm not. I don't want

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>to do it, but my wife wants a third child,

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>um kind of which I can't In the throes of

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>a brand new child. I can't even fathom it. I can't.

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I refuse to even to entertain the idea. Yeah, the popular,

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the popular saying being like, oh, it goes from man

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>to man defense to zone defense. That's absolutely true. Man

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>to man defense is a big time advantage for the

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>for the defense. And it's still hard though, Yeah, it's

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>very hard. And so anyway, I don't really I'm getting

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>nervous and I got already got anxiety about the coronavirus.

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk about this anymore. Mark, get

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>bastard for bringing Actually this, this, this is a great

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>podcast idea. We all, all three of us get vasectomies. Now,

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 1>that would be a show, that would be that would

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>be a show like we called the ice the Ice

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Pack Hour with Ben Mark. And you know what's funny

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>is it the most popular time of year to get

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>a vasectomy is right now because most people, yeah, the

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>time for marsh Madness and this year. Can you imagine

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>how shitty it must be to be the guys that

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>scheduled their vasectomies right now? And then marsh Madness gets canceled, Like,

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I gotta watch Netflix. Oh no, yeah, no,

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm I'm scared of that. Anyway, we gotta we

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>gotta pick mark of those three podcast ideas, what is

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>your favorite and what would you pick if you were voting.

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I think they're great all three, but I vote for

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the science podcast. Okay, that's Trey pu Pecao takes the lead.

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Philip uh second, I second that motion the Cow. You know,

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>it's hard for me to say. I want to say

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the Whole Animal because I have this idea that would

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>be fantastic and I imagine like two brothers going at

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>it if they have the expertise, would be a good

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>be a good thing. So I'm gonna go with the

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Whole Animal podcast for my boat. Um, I just want

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>to I want to think these brothers can really get

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>it done. Do you have any worries Ben that whoever

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 1>gets your podcasting equipment with this idea launches a show

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's so wildly successful that supplants you in the

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Mediator podcast network and Phil goes and works for the

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Whole Animal instead of working for Yeah, I I uh,

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm picking. I'm not picking my favorite because

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to keep job security. No, I am totally

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>secure with my with th HD. Okay, okay, Mark, I'm

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the totally secure. So thank you everyone for writing in.

0:32:55.440 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Good luck to Trey, Liz, and Ian and Ryan. I

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>just want to say, like Mark kind of brought this

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 1>up earlier. Uh, if you don't win this, and even

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>to the hundreds of people who wrote in and didn't

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>make it to the top three, it is that is.

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>It has never been cheaper to do something like this,

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 1>never been easier. There's never been more resources online to

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>get you started. So if you have an idea and

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you think that you wanna, you know, get some free time,

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and you're passionate about it, just do it. But yeah,

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>that's true, that's true. Go out and do it, man.

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>That's what why podcast is so beautiful that like people,

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>it's it's really a democratic medium. Man. You can hop

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 1>onto iTunes for free and listen for free. You can

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>have a podcast that costs nothing but an account to

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>a servicing account like lips in, and a microphone, a

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>computer and some buddies that are have something interesting to say. So, um,

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>go do it. Man. Use this as a as a

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>good time to plan it and go and do it. Man.

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>You're probably sitting around your house. Um, this is a

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>good time to get out there in a podcast. Maybe

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 1>make a baby while you're at it. Whatever you want

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>to do, it's up to you. But don't do them

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. That's what I would say. That

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>would be a podcast if you do. Just make sure

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you put that that not safe for work sticker, that

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:09.280
<v Speaker 1>explicit sticker on your show. Yeah, make sure the microphone

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>has a wind screen because you're gonna want to them

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of what man, Yeah, something like that. Um,

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>so good luck to Trey, to Liz, to Ian and Ryan.

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>You guys are welcome to go out and campaign for

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>yourselves on Instagram or Twitter or Facebook whatever. Get people

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>to vote for you. Just send them to at any

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 1>of the three oh one all on Instagram. Go to

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>my Instagram story and there will be the place to vote. Um,

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>while you're there, you know, give me a follow and

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>send me a real nice comment. Make me feel good

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>about myself because that's what this is all about anyway. Uh.

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's it. That's all of the giveaways that that

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>lasted quite a long time. Phil. There's your podcast we've

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 1>been doing. We did Mark. We did these four giveaways

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>for episode one, and I didn't realize it would take

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>months to like worked them out and get them all delivered.

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.359
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't realize, but I'm happy it did because

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 1>it was really fun. Um, I had a good time, Phil,

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Did you have a good time? Uh? Yeah, I mean

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I've said it a hundred times, but I'm

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 1>still like, I'm still confused by the response, and uh, flattered,

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 1>And I think, Ben, you should be flattered more than anyone. Obviously,

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>it's you've got to You've got a very passionate audience. Yeah,

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>we had poems, we had illustrations, we had what else

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>do we have everything? We had turkey calls, just videos.

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 1>People were framing pictures of my dead hamster squeakers. People

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>were having family game nights to draw Phil. Um. It was.

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>It was unbelievable. So there's this, and this could totally

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:44.839
<v Speaker 1>hijack where you want to go with this, So feel

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>free to postpone your answer for some other time. But oftentimes,

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:53.359
<v Speaker 1>in business or podcasting or whatever you often are, an

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>idea is to try to imagine your typical audience member

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:01.800
<v Speaker 1>or customer and kind of put together their whole um

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>suite of preferences and demographics. And various things to try

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 1>to understand who this person is. And so, based off

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>of all these contest entries and various other feedback and

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>messages you've gotten, can you describe, like who your audience

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>member is an over generalized version of like what this

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:24.280
<v Speaker 1>person is? Is this like an urban uh non hunter

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>who's twenty forty, or like do you have any kind

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 1>of assumption of who your average listeners based off this? Now?

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I do? I do? They all look exactly like me? Uh?

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:38.879
<v Speaker 1>And are my age? Phil got? I mean, if Joe

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Ferronado was under he would probably he would probably um

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 1>back me up that we we did. People send a

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of videos in for our turkey calling contest of

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>themselves and half of them were uh, probably thirty five

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 1>and had a beard. Um. I don't know if the

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>beards all they grew a beard after they saw my beard,

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>which I doubt they did. That would be stupid, or

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.800
<v Speaker 1>if they just all bearded. People all kind of came

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:10.919
<v Speaker 1>to this show. I don't know the chicken or the egg,

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 1>you know how that is? Margins, you don't know, there's

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>nowhere to know, uh, but you know the podcast contest

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:18.959
<v Speaker 1>funny enough, was the thing that really got me thinking

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>about that. And I didn't expecting go into expecting to

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>be inspired or feel anything. I just wanted to have

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>fun and help someone out, um and and just share creativity.

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, this show is a lot of just

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.919
<v Speaker 1>in your show too, Mark, I'm sure, just random things

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you think of that you find interesting and that you

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 1>want to explore, and they take on lives of their own.

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:41.839
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I wanted to do here. I just

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>thought it would be fun for everybody, and then it

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>takes on a life of its own once it gets gone.

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>And in this case, as I was sitting there reading

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 1>all these podcasts ideas, I realized that, I mean, we

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 1>had teachers, we had middle school teachers, high school teachers,

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>high school students. I had a couple in from like

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>high school, outdoors clubs, um. We had research professionals as

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 1>you heard, we had mothers, we had we had a

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>nuclear physicist was one of them. We had military, we

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>had first responders, we had firefighters, we had I mean

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>just just from all walks of life people that listen

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>to this show and that um that appreciates something about it.

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't know what, or I just wanted

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>to win a podcast kid. I don't know what the

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:25.840
<v Speaker 1>motivation is, right, but um, that was a part of

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 1>it that struck me. And it wasn't I wasn't reading

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it to kind of, you know, have any feeling about

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 1>the audience. I just wanted to to to put as

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>much time into the um reading each one of the

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>submissions as people took to put them together and send

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>them to me. So that's that's really. It was just

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 1>like an exercise that turned into something that for me,

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't meant to be. UM And really, I just

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:48.959
<v Speaker 1>I came out of it appreciating how many different people

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>can come and gather around hunting and the outdoors and

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 1>caring about it, and it's just silliness at the same time,

0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>complete ridiculous. We we I don't know if you listen

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to them, but we wrapped and sung some of the

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 1>poems from one of our contests, and I listened back

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:07.800
<v Speaker 1>to him like, this is the most ridiculous thing that

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I've ever heard in my life. And I don't know

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>what to do with it, but I'm glad we did it.

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's just not the norm within the hunting world. No,

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I would say that's a perfect way to describe you, Ben.

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it's great. I hate I hate to I

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:26.919
<v Speaker 1>hate reflecting on anything. I'd like to just do things

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and then move on. But they're reflecting on just how

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>many people out there are from different have different perspectives,

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 1>are from different places. All of the contest winners, um

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 1>three at the ones we've announced so far, we're from

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 1>the New England States. I think we had a New Hampshire,

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Massachusetts in Connecticut, which was kind of random and funny,

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>but it just goes to show you people think of

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 1>meat eater or they like typify your podcast market like,

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 1>oh it's a it's must be all Midwesterners and in

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the Eastern folks. Um, we got emails from every place

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 1>in this country and every in places internet. Actually, a

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>bunch from Canada, a bunch from England, a bunch of

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 1>New Zealand, a bunch of Australia. Um, a couple from

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>South America. Even so whatever, man, just be glad to

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>be a part of something, whether it's a podcast or

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't even care what it is, where you can

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 1>share share this conversations with so many people. So that

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 1>was a long winded way of saying, like man, it

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.320
<v Speaker 1>was really inspiring and cool to read all these submissions

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.799
<v Speaker 1>and thank you everyone for sending them in. So, Mark,

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:33.320
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna what's your contest gonna be for a while? Yeah.

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>The contest is to try to draw what you think

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the average Hunting Collective audience member looks like. I like it.

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be drawing a bunch of just a bunch

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 1>of trolls with beards like what we do let the

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, good, you have any final thoughts there,

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Phil on our episode one hundred stuff and what it

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>turned into your I guess you already kind of gave them. Yeah,

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I kind of. I kind of summed it up for

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for contributing. Yeah, thanks. I always always tune you

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:05.919
<v Speaker 1>out when you're talking, Phil, I try not to listen

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>to to what you're saying. That's okay, I do the

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>exact same thing to myself. Oh I thought you would

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 1>say to me, all right, well thanks for listening. Okay, cool,

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>thanks for listening. Um, but that's it, So I will

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna the next contest, as you guys heard, already,

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:24.320
<v Speaker 1>hand turkeys. He could he could get a thousand hand turkeys.

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.840
<v Speaker 1>That's the goal. Yeah, plaster them all over the office,

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.800
<v Speaker 1>not just behind my desk. One thousand hand turkey drawings.

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:34.839
<v Speaker 1>That's what's want, that's what we want. That's what I'm

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 1>even for. If I can get a thousand, I don't

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm gonna do. Probably I'll probably retire. Um,

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>So get your hands ready because because after this whole

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:46.919
<v Speaker 1>coronavirus thing, hand drawn hand turkeys will be the only

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:50.720
<v Speaker 1>form of currency. We'll have to cut all our hands

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>off to avoid shaking them. Uh. All right, that's that's

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.959
<v Speaker 1>coming up, So just just get ready for that. So, um, Phil,

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>your your release from duty. You can go back, uh

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to hang out with your kids and probably fake working

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 1>from home. You're supposed to be working from home or

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>you do you plan to do work? Yeah? Well, I

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>already mixed one of your shows today, and now I'm

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 1>recording a podcast with you. I'm recording another podcast with

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 1>you later today, and then I'm mixing another one of

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>your shows. So pretty all the work I'm doing today

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 1>is just for you specifically, so I just thought i'd

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>let you know. Thanks. It's actually for the listener who

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 1>we just described h all over the world, and that's

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 1>who it's for. Philip hp to do it. I'll always

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 1>defend the listener on TC. I won't let I won't

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>let Phil. Phil is always trying to degrade you. I'm

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>always trying to build you up and keep you, keep

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 1>you with us. Um. All right, well we're gonna tell

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 1>the story of the Wide eight Phil. So go take

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 1>a breather and I'll see you briefly. Cool, have fun,

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Mark Kenyon. Uh, when's the last time you're on the

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>back forties? Uh? Uh? Two days ago Saturday, Saturday, Sunday.

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I was on the back for you. Today's Monday, Monday. Yeah,

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:14.240
<v Speaker 1>so it was Saturday a couple of days ago. Wow, Okay,

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 1>what how's it looking over there? It's looking okay. Um,

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I was out there. Frost seating. Uh So. Frost seeding

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>is a way of planting something without actually tilling or

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:30.280
<v Speaker 1>disking or plowing anything into the ground. You actually broadcast

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:34.719
<v Speaker 1>seed just on top of what's there early enough in

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.280
<v Speaker 1>the year that they're still freezing and thawing cycles. So

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>the ground's gonna freeze at some points and it's gonna

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 1>thaw later in the day, and so the ground expands

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and then contracts, expands and then contracts and that sucks

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 1>in the seed into the soil and allows stuff to grow.

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>So I'm frost seating switch grass, which is a type

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.479
<v Speaker 1>of grass that's going to provide a lot of cover

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>and structure across these old fields that we talked about

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 1>last time. Um, frost were critters, and so I was

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>doing that. It's been a big pain in the butt. Um.

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Two different broadcast seaters I bought have already broken on me.

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>So um as the as it was last year, gear

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and equipment issues continue. Oh boy. Yeah, I mean we

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of big plans for the back for

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you this year, and I can only imagine that this

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 1>is just the beginning. Yeah, man, and this whole uh

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:28.799
<v Speaker 1>coronavirus thing is throwing a loop already into it as

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 1>we speak. Yeah, we're supposed to be filming next week

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 1>and now obviously we're not doing that, and we're trying

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 1>to do a lot of things out there. So we'll

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 1>leave that for other conversations. But I think I do

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:42.319
<v Speaker 1>think that um, in general, what we want to do

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>on that that property this year, we're gonna still do it. Um.

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 1>We're still going to do all the big projects we

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted to want to do whether we get to film

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 1>them and show them to you on back for to

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>you the actual show or not. UM, we're still gonna

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 1>do them. We're still gonna make that property the best

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 1>that possibly can be. And if we can't get camera

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 1>guys there, we can't everybody else there to film, and

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:03.359
<v Speaker 1>we'll still bring to you somehow. Marco'll take his phone

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>out there and show you what he's doing, So just

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:08.359
<v Speaker 1>stick with us. We got big plans for the back

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:12.399
<v Speaker 1>forward for spring, summer, fall and then the next year,

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 1>but lots and lots to do. But the big I

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 1>imagine that like, do you think the wide eight, the

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 1>fact he killed the White eight last year, do you

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like that will be the high point of the

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 1>property or do we got are we going to hit

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 1>another high note? Are we gonna be chasing that all year? No,

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:28.360
<v Speaker 1>we'll have a high note. That won't be the beginning.

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 1>That was simply a dot of optimism to begin the

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>growth curve. I would say, I think, Um, I think

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 1>what we had last year was very very very much

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 1>a raw, rough canvas that we are trying to draw

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:48.280
<v Speaker 1>hanting on and this year, barring any more disasters, Um,

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>if we were able to do the things we want

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:53.320
<v Speaker 1>to do. The place should be a lot better this year. UM.

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 1>So I think we'll see a lot more of all

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 1>sorts of wildlife. I think we've got plans to bring

0:45:58.239 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 1>in some guests. It will be a lot of fun

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 1>to share this place with. And I think we'll I

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:05.879
<v Speaker 1>think we'll see more dear and I think there'll be

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:08.120
<v Speaker 1>some success. So I think this year will be really cool.

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:11.399
<v Speaker 1>I think the coolest thing even if we don't have

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 1>a successful hunt like we did last year where it

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:16.319
<v Speaker 1>killed the wide at a big mature buck. Even if

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 1>we don't kill mature buck this year, I think it

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 1>will be really a high point just to see it transformed,

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 1>to see the new version of it this fault, and

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>to see how animals and all sorts of new life

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 1>is kind of flush across this landscape. I think that

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 1>will be a high point, just to see that experience that. Um,

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for that a lot. Yeah. And then for you,

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe for those of you that don't know,

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:45.320
<v Speaker 1>back Ford is a property that that Meat Eater bought

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 1>and Mark Kenyan manages and we're making a show about it. Um.

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 1>And it's six or four acres in Michigan. And as

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>you said, it's kind of like it wasn't a blank canvas,

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>but it was definitely a run of the mill farm.

0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 1>You can just inherit and start shooting the big bucks

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 1>walk around. I mean, um, a lot of work had

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to be done, has been done, will be done. Um,

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>A lot of times going into thinking about what what's

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 1>the best thing for this property and why, um, why

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 1>we need to do what we're gonna do, and so

0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's an interesting I've never been a part of

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:18.279
<v Speaker 1>something like this. I've least ground for hunting. I've been

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:22.359
<v Speaker 1>a part of those processes, but not never something so intimate. Um.

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:24.520
<v Speaker 1>And you and I were talking about, you know, just

0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 1>a property in general. How how the more you get

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:29.879
<v Speaker 1>to know something, you would think the closer you got

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:31.800
<v Speaker 1>to it. Right, the more you know about a property,

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:34.400
<v Speaker 1>you would think the closer you felt to it, that

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 1>intimate knowledge of every corner of it, every field, every hedgerow,

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 1>every tree, you kind of know what's going on. But

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.879
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about recently, like the closer you get

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 1>to a property, the more you realize what you don't know,

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 1>the more you realize how much there isn't there. Yeah,

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:53.319
<v Speaker 1>It's like there's these different levels to getting to know

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 1>a place, and so you you start to get to

0:47:57.200 --> 0:47:58.799
<v Speaker 1>know a place a whole lot, and you feel like, oh,

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I know that there's an oak tree over there, and

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I know there's a such and such tree there, and

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>then there's this corner there. So you get to know

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>something really well on that level. But if you keep going,

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 1>then you go to this next level where you then

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 1>have all these new questions because now you're starting to ask,

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 1>why does this happen there, or why is this thing

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 1>happening there that's influencing this wildlife movement or whatever. And

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:21.879
<v Speaker 1>then is if you keep on digging in and your

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 1>further passionate and excited about learning this place, and you

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:26.919
<v Speaker 1>have more experiences, then you start to see, oh, when

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I made this change, it influenced this. And there's this

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 1>cascade of effects that I think is really interesting. If

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 1>you approach it with curiosity, Um, that's been something that

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 1>at times this property has seen limiting because like we're

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:47.000
<v Speaker 1>just on sixty four acres, there's nothing but well, we

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 1>know every square inch almost. But then if you approach

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 1>it with curiosity and um, I don't know, ah, you

0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:58.800
<v Speaker 1>just you just keep on diving down these new rabbit

0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 1>holes which are really interesting in challenging all sorts of challenges.

0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 1>But I think embracing that makes it a lot of fun. Yeah,

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 1>that that's that's well, But you always do a good

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 1>job of kind of encapsulating all the things that go

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:19.160
<v Speaker 1>into this. And um, I think that part of what

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I hope to get out of of the back Ford.

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:24.839
<v Speaker 1>And we were talking about this about what what might

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 1>we do after the back Ford or what what else

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 1>can we figure out in terms of hunting. I think

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that what meat Eater has done as a brand and

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:35.319
<v Speaker 1>and Steve Ronnell as a person and kind of what

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 1>all the things that he means to hunting is is

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to be able to say, like, what's happening on the ground.

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 1>What makes us relatable to everybody? Um, what makes a

0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:46.240
<v Speaker 1>sixty four acre property in Michigan relatable to everybody listening

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 1>to this? There's got to be something that you can

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>relate to. Even if you don't own a proper of

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 1>your own, if you've never hunted on white tails on

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:56.320
<v Speaker 1>in Michigan you don't ever intend to. There's some appreciation

0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 1>for for the land and for the animals that you

0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 1>can learn from what from your experience, right from Mark's experience.

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.440
<v Speaker 1>But but then let's say you have a property like this,

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:09.280
<v Speaker 1>or you do intend to want to have a property

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:12.000
<v Speaker 1>like this, you can also learn some very intimate things

0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:14.359
<v Speaker 1>on the ground that you can either do better or

0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:16.799
<v Speaker 1>or you can try to emulate. And so it's it's

0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a great it's been a great process. I guess

0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that it's it's more of an internal feeling for me

0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:23.800
<v Speaker 1>having worked on the show with you. But I think, um,

0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>for those who haven't watched back forward you even those

0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:27.799
<v Speaker 1>who have and are looking forward to the season two,

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 1>that's how that's why I enjoy it. Because of that approach,

0:50:32.200 --> 0:50:34.439
<v Speaker 1>we're able to be broad but also kind of of

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 1>hit things on the ground floor where they're happening on

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:42.319
<v Speaker 1>that property. Yeah. I mean it's been i opening for

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:45.719
<v Speaker 1>me in so many different ways. Have have thought that

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of experience of these kinds of

0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:49.360
<v Speaker 1>things leading up to it, and I thought, oh, this

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>is great. You get to own a property and do

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want on it. This will be a piece

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:55.880
<v Speaker 1>of cake. This is the dream come true. Um, this

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:59.280
<v Speaker 1>will be a slam dunk. And you very quickly realize

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:04.600
<v Speaker 1>that there's a lot more to it. Um, challenges and opportunities. Um.

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:06.239
<v Speaker 1>And so it's been a hell of a journey, that's

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.439
<v Speaker 1>for sure. By the time it's all said and done,

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:11.120
<v Speaker 1>we'll have had a lot of fun, will have worked

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 1>our tails off and learned a lot. Yeah, that's for sure.

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:16.799
<v Speaker 1>And that's all you can really ask for. We had

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Charles Rodney on the show a couple of weeks ago,

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's what he always says. He's like, be safe,

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:27.319
<v Speaker 1>have fun, learn go like this. That's and I take

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:29.239
<v Speaker 1>that in from a guy like that. Um. You know

0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 1>what I want to talk about before you get any further,

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 1>UM soil and a guy named Gabe Brown. I think

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:38.399
<v Speaker 1>at this point you could probably give us a lot

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 1>about game. Brown. We we went to um Rome Ranch

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:45.320
<v Speaker 1>back in November and we did a podcast for THD

0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:48.600
<v Speaker 1>about soil and about rejective agriculture and about kind of

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:51.919
<v Speaker 1>the if if you were looking at the great mysteries

0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:54.640
<v Speaker 1>and our society, like or or one of the more

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 1>important things we could explore soil is never we think

0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:00.160
<v Speaker 1>about the ocean, we think about our climate, we don't

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 1>ever really think about the soil. UM soil becomes this

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:08.160
<v Speaker 1>like connective tissue or connective organism for everything everything we eat,

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:11.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, every every place we walk, whatever. So could

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:13.879
<v Speaker 1>you give us just a quick rundown from from your

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 1>perch on the back forward you why soil matters and

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 1>that there's this guy named Gay Brown that that you've

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 1>been been talking about to me. Yeah. Well, like you said,

0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 1>soil is it is the foundation that almost everything that

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:31.000
<v Speaker 1>we depend on is built on. There is more life

0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:34.359
<v Speaker 1>in soil beneath the surface of the ground than there

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:38.720
<v Speaker 1>is above it. It's smaller life, but the sheer volume

0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:41.799
<v Speaker 1>of different little critters and things going on down there

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:50.240
<v Speaker 1>is incredible. And our health, our ability to grow things,

0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:52.239
<v Speaker 1>to have food, to to do all the things that

0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 1>we need as as humans and then on a more

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:59.280
<v Speaker 1>granular level as hunters or wildlife managers. It all depends

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:02.759
<v Speaker 1>on that part of the of the building, which is

0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the foundation, which is soil. And soil has been becoming

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 1>seriously degraded decade over decade over decade. I think the

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 1>last number I saw is that we have lost fifty

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.240
<v Speaker 1>of our top soil across the world over the last

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:18.520
<v Speaker 1>century and a half, so since industrial agriculture, since the

0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:23.760
<v Speaker 1>plow um of sorts started being used prevalently. We've lost

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:27.240
<v Speaker 1>half of the available high quality soil to grow stuff,

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and we're losing more and more and more and more

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 1>because of a number of different practices within you know,

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 1>within the agricultural world and and even within wildlife agriculture

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that management all those different types of things. Um, we're

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 1>killing the biology of soil every time we plowed up,

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 1>or we leave it bear um, or we plant the

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:48.879
<v Speaker 1>same thing over and over and over in a monoculture,

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:51.800
<v Speaker 1>or we apply a bunch of chemicals. All these things

0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 1>are killing the life within soil that gives life to

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 1>everything that comes out of it. That's a very overly

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:03.000
<v Speaker 1>simplified generalized explanation of why soil matters. But um, basically

0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 1>what what Gay Brown, who is a farmer from north

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 1>North Dakota has been sharing, and a lot of folks

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:16.919
<v Speaker 1>from within the natural resource um oh, natural resource why

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 1>am I Conservation Service? Thank you from the government, and

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of people across the country now are

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 1>speaking about our new ways to think about planting crops,

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 1>new ways of farming that can preserve the quality and

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 1>life of our soil. And that's going to lead to

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:37.320
<v Speaker 1>more nutrient dense crops. It's going to lead to better yields,

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:39.560
<v Speaker 1>it's going to lead to less erosion, it's going to

0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:43.280
<v Speaker 1>lead to less pollution with chemicals getting into our water sources.

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 1>All many, many, many different benefits. So this is a

0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:49.399
<v Speaker 1>topic that has become an interest to me because when

0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:52.399
<v Speaker 1>we started looking into this idea of the back forward,

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:54.719
<v Speaker 1>we want to try to manage this place, UM to

0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 1>be a wildlife paradise, but also as environmentally friendly and

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:02.000
<v Speaker 1>as as as as healthy of an ecosystem as we

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:04.440
<v Speaker 1>possibly could. And so I knew from the get go

0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:08.239
<v Speaker 1>that UM, thinking about soil would have to be part

0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 1>of the equation. And so I started diving into it

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:14.360
<v Speaker 1>last winter last spring. And Gay Brown was one of

0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 1>these people who wrote a book called Dirt to Soil

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:18.880
<v Speaker 1>that has been one of those highly one of the

0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:21.799
<v Speaker 1>most highly recommended books on this topic. UM ever want

0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:23.560
<v Speaker 1>to talk to would always point back to that book.

0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Go read that book, Go read that book. Listen to

0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 1>his ted talk. UM, So I did, and UM, what

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you learned is that there's a handful of and you

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:31.879
<v Speaker 1>can cut me off at any point I from going

0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:35.560
<v Speaker 1>too deep and keep going. You might have covered this

0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:38.480
<v Speaker 1>already in your Rome Ranch podcast, But there's these principles

0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:41.960
<v Speaker 1>of healthy soil that should be thought about whenever you're

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:43.960
<v Speaker 1>going to be moving forward with some kind of work

0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:45.600
<v Speaker 1>with the ground. So what we're trying to do with

0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the back ford and I'll give you this the really

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 1>high level, and I might forget something here, but you

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 1>want to reduce tillage as much as possible, because whenever

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:57.840
<v Speaker 1>you're tilling or plowing ground, you're you're breaking apart the

0:55:57.920 --> 0:56:02.879
<v Speaker 1>soil biology. You're you're losing oisture too, to the atmosphere.

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.920
<v Speaker 1>So anytime you can no till, that's a better option.

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Anytime you can keep the soil armored. You want to

0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:12.200
<v Speaker 1>have something growing at all times because nature, in nature,

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:14.440
<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to be stuff growing. Nature of bores a

0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:16.520
<v Speaker 1>vacuum is the phrase of her in the past. So

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you want roots, living roots in the soil at all times.

0:56:19.600 --> 0:56:22.719
<v Speaker 1>That's different than what you're seeing in traditional agriculture, where

0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:25.239
<v Speaker 1>a crop is planted in May or June and it's

0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 1>harvested in September or October or November, and then it's

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 1>just dead. It's a desert for five months or six

0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:35.840
<v Speaker 1>months or whatever. Um, you also want diversity in nature.

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:39.280
<v Speaker 1>You never see a monoculture. You never see the same

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:44.960
<v Speaker 1>plant everywhere. There's always diversity in nature. But across massive

0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 1>swaths of America, in the entire world, we're planting monoculture,

0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:53.160
<v Speaker 1>single species crops that are covering the landscape with just

0:56:53.280 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 1>one single thing that's not natural. That's not healthy for soil,

0:56:56.640 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 1>It's not healthy for the environment in a lot of ways.

0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:06.839
<v Speaker 1>So diverse planting. UM. Reducing chemical uh inputs like synthetic fertilizers,

0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:12.560
<v Speaker 1>synth excuse excuse me, synthetic fertilizers, synthetic herbicides. UM, those

0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 1>things are not helping us. Um is that four? Yeah? Thanks,

0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm forgetting I'm forgetting something here now. But um. But

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 1>but basically, high level point of all this is that

0:57:25.400 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 1>soil matters. I've been trying to learn a lot about

0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:30.640
<v Speaker 1>it and trying to implement these practices on the back forty.

0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 1>We did that last year for the first time, both

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 1>on the back forty and on another farm. I'm able

0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:37.480
<v Speaker 1>to do a little bit of work on I tried

0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 1>this stuff for the first time and UM learned a lot.

0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try it again this year. Yeah, I

0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 1>mean the thing that I've always seen and heard and

0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:48.000
<v Speaker 1>when I was at Room Ranch that they said to

0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:50.640
<v Speaker 1>me that got me going, there's more living organisms and

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:53.200
<v Speaker 1>a teaspoon of soil than the rest of the earth,

0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:56.680
<v Speaker 1>than all of the Earth compared to combined. And so

0:57:56.800 --> 0:57:59.919
<v Speaker 1>it's like this, this is this, it's a bias fhere,

0:58:00.240 --> 0:58:05.360
<v Speaker 1>it's assist a biological system what soil is, and we

0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 1>have to treat it like that. And what's funny is

0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:11.600
<v Speaker 1>roset Room Branch there show they showed me the difference

0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:17.240
<v Speaker 1>between the chocolate cake looking soil visually, it's it's arresting.

0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Here's you know here they say, here, look under this

0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 1>cover crop. Here's uh soil that hasn't been tilled up,

0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:27.360
<v Speaker 1>that hasn't been planted in about three or four years.

0:58:27.720 --> 0:58:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Look at what this looks like. And it looks like

0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:32.160
<v Speaker 1>chocolate cake. And then you go one field over and

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you're like this soils, this soil has been tilled yearly

0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:37.600
<v Speaker 1>for the past who knows how long, and it's like

0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:42.240
<v Speaker 1>red sand um. There's no nutrients in it, there's nothing biological,

0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:45.480
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing, no earthworms crawling in it. It's basically dead soil.

0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 1>And then what they described to me is that once

0:58:47.800 --> 0:58:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you get to this point, you still need this land

0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:52.840
<v Speaker 1>to produce crops, so you can so that farmer can

0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:56.280
<v Speaker 1>make a living, so that farmer can have, um a

0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:59.080
<v Speaker 1>life on the farm. And what you then have to

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:01.720
<v Speaker 1>do is use those of gladiatives for to to make

0:59:01.760 --> 0:59:05.080
<v Speaker 1>the soil fertile. And that's the only way from there

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:07.000
<v Speaker 1>all and you're kind of dependent on those chemicals to

0:59:07.040 --> 0:59:09.440
<v Speaker 1>make things grow in the soil that you've destroyed. So

0:59:09.480 --> 0:59:15.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a weird circular pattern of destruction that. Um, it's alarming,

0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and I think regetitive agriculture I've seen it a lot more.

0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I've just been looking for it recently, since I've

0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 1>been learning about it as you have. Maybe I've been

0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:26.400
<v Speaker 1>looking for it more. But I've seen it repeated a

0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:29.360
<v Speaker 1>lot in these circles. People are talking about it more,

0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:32.280
<v Speaker 1>and people are thinking about soil and looking to people

0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:37.680
<v Speaker 1>like Gay Brown for leadership. Yeah, for leadership, um, And

0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:40.600
<v Speaker 1>so give us a rundown. You know, hopefully we can

0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:43.360
<v Speaker 1>film a lot of this, but like on the back forty,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you intend to approach it? Gabe hopefully is

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<v Speaker 1>going to come and help us with this, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're supposed to be there next week, but now

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<v Speaker 1>he can't can't come because of the quarantine. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what's the intention with Gabe, And in terms of soil, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the hope is that game is gonna come out and

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at the soil that we have on

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<v Speaker 1>the farm right now and tell us a little bitut

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<v Speaker 1>what he's seeing there. Um. From everything I can gather,

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell this has been intensively plowed in farm

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<v Speaker 1>soil for decades and decades and decades, so it's seriously degraded. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's gonna come and take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at that, and then we're going to talk to him

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<v Speaker 1>about those different principles, principles of soil health and ways

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<v Speaker 1>that we can plant crops on the back forty but

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<v Speaker 1>do it in a way that is good for the

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<v Speaker 1>whole ecosystem, good for the soil. Um. And so, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, started these things last year and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of small food plots we planted this year. We're expanding

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<v Speaker 1>the food plots in quite a uh quite a significant way,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me. So we're gonna continue to use a no

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<v Speaker 1>till approach. We're gonna minimize the use of any herbicides

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<v Speaker 1>as much as possible. UM, We're going to institute a

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<v Speaker 1>rotation of crops that allows us to keep something growing

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<v Speaker 1>at all times. And then it also uses UM. By

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<v Speaker 1>keeping something going all the time, you don't then have

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<v Speaker 1>the weed issues that then require you use herbicides like

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<v Speaker 1>people traditionally do. So we'll have a rotation, will utilize

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<v Speaker 1>a really diverse blend of plants rather than the typical

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<v Speaker 1>monoculture plantings. UM. Again, that's gonna be great for all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of different types of wildlife. It's also gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>good for the soil. It's also going to make things

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<v Speaker 1>easier from us for us from an input standpoint. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's you know, at the high level, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be doing those things that all those things, they're

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more difficult or to get started with

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<v Speaker 1>maybe than the traditional ways I've done it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think once you get it going, you start seeing some

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<v Speaker 1>real benefits. And we're just in that beginning stage. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think Gave is gonna be able to provide some

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<v Speaker 1>really helpful guidance just as far as the things I

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<v Speaker 1>should be looking for, the things that should be focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on Um, hopefully we can avoid some of this mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he did experience early on in his years. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he can pass along a few points. Is to

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<v Speaker 1>keep my mistakes as minimal as possible. Yeah, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Well, Like like we said before, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is this is one of those things where people can

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<v Speaker 1>learn from you because we're gonna document every single thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you go through. Um, and I think it's beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>about the way you approach it, in the way that's

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<v Speaker 1>been done. Is this. You're not an expert, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gay Brown, but you're relying on other experts to come

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<v Speaker 1>in and kind of give you the guidance and then

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta go do it yourself. And if you screw

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<v Speaker 1>it up, oh you know, Oh well, Um, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>how a. Yeah, you're the great guinea pig. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why you can't get sick mark. You can't get coronavirus

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<v Speaker 1>because then the back forty will fall apart. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what we'll do if that happens. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's good. I mean, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>good to understand. Um. One, we had a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Luke McCauley out last year who kind of gave us

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<v Speaker 1>who painted the picture had done done this prior for

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<v Speaker 1>you and I, but but painted the picture of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of why are small farms important? We talk about public

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<v Speaker 1>lands all the time. I mean, you wrote a book

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Um. These are large swaths of millions and

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<v Speaker 1>millions of acres. But now we're talking about sixty four acres.

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<v Speaker 1>And and it may seem like that's not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>A soil on a sixty four acre farm may not

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<v Speaker 1>seem like that big a deal. But when you multiply

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<v Speaker 1>that out over millions of millions of acres that are

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<v Speaker 1>similarly managed, if everyone could adopt some some principle that

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<v Speaker 1>one allows people to still make money and allows people

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<v Speaker 1>still have profitable acreage in terms of farming and feed

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<v Speaker 1>themselves and feed each other, um, and feed into our

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<v Speaker 1>industrial system. You know, that's that's one. But that allows

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<v Speaker 1>for soil health and for ecosystem health and for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wildlife health. UM. I think that's the aim. And and

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<v Speaker 1>so if you haven't watched back for you can go

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<v Speaker 1>back and watch those things, um and and see it

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel yeah medior YouTube, go there, um, and at

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<v Speaker 1>some point we'll be able to come back out and

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<v Speaker 1>start filming season two. Okay. If not, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep on shutting along out there doing stuff and one

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<v Speaker 1>day you'll just show back up with the camera like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>what if you it's on fire? Literally? Holy crap? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Well good, Um, anything else about the back for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, we're going to do some prescribe burning. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we're hoping to get with a consultant and look at

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<v Speaker 1>building a pond there. Man, We're gonna put wood duck boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>We still gotta get honey from our bees from last year.

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<v Speaker 1>A million things to do, Yeah, lots lots going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Bees and wetlands and ponds and grasses and prescribe burns

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<v Speaker 1>and new plantings of various food sources and creating new

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<v Speaker 1>cover and bedding areas with evergreen plantings and trees and

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<v Speaker 1>orchards and mushrooms. I mean, just a plethora of food

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<v Speaker 1>and plants and animals and a bounty, a bounty of nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell people about here's a good hot tip. Tell people

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<v Speaker 1>about growing their own mushrooms. Oh gosh, I'm the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>guy to to ask about that, Ben, because I I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard is the little idea that Steve mentioned where Supposedly,

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you that tell me the supposedly what

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<v Speaker 1>you can do, so they can look forward to seeing

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<v Speaker 1>you try this out. Supposedly you can get spores from mushrooms,

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<v Speaker 1>put them on a chainsaw and make cuts into old

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<v Speaker 1>dead stumps with these mushroom spores and it will impregnate

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<v Speaker 1>or or whatever the right war is. Um you you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about. Yeah, you can see where our heads are at. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can essentially plant your own mushrooms where you

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<v Speaker 1>want them. Um. I don't know how easy this to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's real. Um, but we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give a shot, see what we can do. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>first going to try to find a bunch of mushrooms

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll see if we can inoculate some stumps.

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<v Speaker 1>The more. Yeah, to look forward to what else we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do there this spring. We're gonna get turkey hut uh,

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<v Speaker 1>get some morrel mushrooms. We're gonna plant a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>trees with our friend Doug during Um, we're gonna plant

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<v Speaker 1>some orchards with some some fruit bearing trees in there.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna start the our bee hives going so we

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<v Speaker 1>can harvest honey later in the year. Um, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get everything figured out so we can dig our pond

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<v Speaker 1>and put some wood duck boxes on that pond. Um

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<v Speaker 1>and really, just like as we were saying before, just

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<v Speaker 1>like throw a grenade of change at this place and

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<v Speaker 1>and do everything we possibly can in a short term

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<v Speaker 1>two make it as good as it can be, and

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<v Speaker 1>then see what happens in the fall, See how wildlife

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<v Speaker 1>uses the things that we create, See what we're able

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<v Speaker 1>to harvest from the things we're able to create and change. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's It's a beautiful thing for me. I love this project.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been I've been in love with it from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't been easy. UM. I know you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>me to tell you that. But but nothing but nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nothing that's worth it as easy. So UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that those out there that are landowners or

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<v Speaker 1>just can step step onto a wild place, that you

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<v Speaker 1>go a publicly to public land and you go think

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<v Speaker 1>about the soil next time you're there, to think about

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<v Speaker 1>the time you're hiking and how your boots affect the

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<v Speaker 1>trail that you're on, and how that trail affects the soil.

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<v Speaker 1>And how that trail causes erosion or or things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it, once you start to learn what the

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<v Speaker 1>earth is and what it means, you start to think

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<v Speaker 1>about every impact that you have on it in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that you know. It's not it's not your typical

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<v Speaker 1>frou through environmentalist way to think about it. Man. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a a very direct um relationship, like your

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<v Speaker 1>feet matter where you're the blade of your shovel matters,

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<v Speaker 1>the wheels of your car matter at that that at

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<v Speaker 1>that point too, and so it's it's something I know

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<v Speaker 1>you've you've experienced for sure. So all right, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>that's soil. Go to uh that benyo B three oh

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<v Speaker 1>one and vote on our our podcasts. Um. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>strange to say, there, Mark, but I'm gonna see everybody

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<v Speaker 1>to my row Daily podcast. Dude. Good for you. That's ambitious.

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<v Speaker 1>It may all fall apart on me. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines. It's already

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<v Speaker 1>been interesting. Um. Anything you want to say to encourage

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<v Speaker 1>everybody out there in this in this time, I'll let

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of have the floor to end it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would just echo the sentiments we had earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>which is we're gonna be okay. But I do think

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<v Speaker 1>I do think we should also take it serious personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we should look at this as some

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<v Speaker 1>crazy conspiracy. I think we're far past that. So follow

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<v Speaker 1>the guidelines, be smart, take care of your family, and

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<v Speaker 1>then keep living your life that as best as you

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<v Speaker 1>can within those guidelines. Get outside, enjoy a walk in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods with your family. Appreciate the simple things, the

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<v Speaker 1>little things that we have that now we're starting to

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<v Speaker 1>learn maybe aren't so guaranteed in certain situations. So kiss

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<v Speaker 1>your wife, Hug your kids, enjoy life. Make sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>your wife, kiss only your wife. Kiss your wife, repecting me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh gosh, it's got awkward. All right, well, Marcus, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much, buddy. Um we'll be checking in with him,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe later in our daily podcast journey. We'll check back

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<v Speaker 1>in with you, Um rendezvous in the back forty. Should

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<v Speaker 1>things all fall apart in terms of society, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we should we should. Uh, we should just create

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<v Speaker 1>a camp there, a commune where everybody can come and share,

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<v Speaker 1>share the wild bounty. Yes, I'll be waiting for you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll have the uh, I'll have it all set

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<v Speaker 1>up beautiful. I'll expect you to have grown a beard

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<v Speaker 1>by then, which which you clearly I'm not to this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been trying for years. Man, it might be it's

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<v Speaker 1>not in the cards. I don't think. Sorry, buddy, see you,

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<v Speaker 1>see you. That's it. That's all another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>books thanks to Marcus Kenyan, thanks to this little program

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<v Speaker 1>we got called Squadcast, not a sponsor, but still making

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<v Speaker 1>my life a lot easier thanks to the hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>you that wrote in and and tried to win a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we go at any of the three oh one,

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<v Speaker 1>go to my instant story. There'll be a frame there

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<v Speaker 1>with a poll to vote for Trey and Liz and

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<v Speaker 1>the brothers Russell. So go there and find them and vote, vote, vote.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna leave that open for twenty four hours and

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<v Speaker 1>that will determine the winners. To go and vote over there.

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<v Speaker 1>If any of a B three or one on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't have Instagram, send an email tell me

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<v Speaker 1>if you like the best. We'll figure it all out.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry. We're gonna get the right person, the equipment,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll go on. So tomorrow on the Daily Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have Remmy Warren. We're gonna talk about hunting

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<v Speaker 1>in New Zealand. We're gonna talk about where he's in

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<v Speaker 1>his life, what he's doing with the Quarantine. I bet

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing something awesome that will make us all jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>So tomorrow Daily Quarantine cast Remy Warren, Phil, you feel him?

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<v Speaker 1>How you feeling about this daily podcast? Life? So far,

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<v Speaker 1>so good? Um, I might have a different attitude about

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<v Speaker 1>it in you know, four or five days, but we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try to keep spirits up, yeah, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a fun idea. You're the man of the

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<v Speaker 1>people who we're doing this for the people. This is

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<v Speaker 1>I represent people. We don't eat, we don't sleep until

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<v Speaker 1>the people get what they want. That's right. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>little daily dose of PTE filled the engineer. All right, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see tomorrow. Bye bye. The Hunting Collective with Ben

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