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Speaker 1: It's sad, but we're soldiering on. I gotta filled the

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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear a lot of things to today's episode.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for checking in for day number two of the

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Speaker 1: Daily Quarantine Cast. We got Mark Kenyon to talk about

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Speaker 1: soil health on the back forty, our plans for the

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Speaker 1: now that we can actually go to the property and

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Speaker 1: and the core coronavirus has kind of screwed us on that.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that with Mark. We talked about vasectomys.

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Speaker 1: We talk about whether Phil wants to get one or

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Speaker 1: not my my opinion. Stay tuned. That's a big, big

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Speaker 1: deal and we're also going to get to most importantly

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Speaker 1: as well. The th h C Daily Quarantine Cash rolls

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Speaker 1: talking uh, Episode two of the Daily THHD podcast. That's

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Speaker 1: what you're listening to. And it's gonna be awkward for

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Speaker 1: here we are. So Mark Kenyan has actually been I

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Speaker 1: found out earlier today, living under quarantine for the last

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Speaker 1: episode one of the THHC Daily podcast Quarantine Cast. I've

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Speaker 1: Mark Kennon, straight off the bat, we don't need another

426
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: millennial out there ruining the world. So you and me

427
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: are not kidding. I know, Phil. I I found that

428
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: the other day. Phil is only twenty nine years old?

429
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: Is right in the right, Phil, Yeah, that's right. I

430
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. You did not know that, so

431
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: I assumed you're in your forties. I've seen so many

432
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: people illustrate your your face that I've just I there's

433
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: no concept of how old you are anymore. Well, that's

434
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: that's that's good to know that you've seen so many

435
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: illustrations of me that you have complete face blindness about

436
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: over my my real face. Yeah, I pictured just that

437
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: illustration of that dude Hice and the cope. Yeah, man, Yeah,

438
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: that's what I see. He does seem more mature than us, Ben,

439
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah. Yeah, his like his children seem well behaved. Uh,

440
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Mine is a wild man. Al Right,

441
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: So that's number two. There's that's one and two. Other

442
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 1: than other than the whole millennial thing. I think it's

443
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: a great idea. Yeah, I think I think that could

444
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: be a podcast that could be very very important to

445
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: a to a small group of hunters. All Right, it's

446
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: a great perspective to share. Well done, Liz. Uh. This

447
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: one is from Trey. I'm gonna say his last name

448
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: is pronounced Paku because it's p i c o u

449
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 1: phil p i c o u. H. Yeah, it sounds

450
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: that's close enough. Paco. Probably we'll go with pa alright.

451
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: Pequ He's a PhD. Trey Pecu is a PhD research scientist.

452
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: He says this. He says a lot of things, but

453
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: this is his his pitch. I would like to do

454
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: a podcast about the science of hunting slash the science

455
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: of hunting related topics. I would interview physicists, biologists, chemists,

456
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: and whatever other aspects are necessary for the listener to

457
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: understand the hardcore science about the topic at hand. What

458
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: do I mean by this? An example of a topic

459
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: I'd like to explore is camouflage. This will probably be

460
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: a multi episode series. It will start out with the

461
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: science behind site, such as it works, the physics and biology,

462
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: and how it evolved pray and predator. Then it would

463
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: progress to what wavelengths and patterns game species and predators,

464
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: see how camouflage works in the natural world, and how

465
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: it could be applied for the hunter. Lastly, I would

466
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: talk to leaders in the hunting and military camouflage industry

467
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: to see how they apply and if they apply real

468
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: science when designing their patterns. Basically, the science the scientists

469
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: in me wants to dive deep into the science behind

470
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: all sorts of hunting related concepts that people usually just

471
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: gloss over hand, wave away, or try to explain using

472
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: catching sounding buzzwords, which I do a lot. Uh me

473
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: Ben o Bran anyway, that's my pitch. I hope you enjoy.

474
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: Sure Ku, So Phil the Engineer, what do you think, Buddy?

475
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: I like that one a lot, coming more from from

476
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: a non Hunters point of view. Um, I think that

477
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: one has like like the first one, I'm not sure about.

478
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: I think this one sounds like it could last for

479
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: as long as they wanted it to and uh cover

480
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: an infinite amount of topics. I think I think this

481
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: is a great one. Mark Kenyon, I'm gonna have to

482
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: second that this one is my favorite. I like, I'm

483
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: personally fascinated with scientific looking at things from scientific lens.

484
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: Three scientific lens in this would like, like Phil said,

485
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: there's longevity here. It's a unique angle, but not too

486
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: much of a stick um or too gimmicky. I like it.

487
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: I like it. I do like it too. I like

488
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: all three of these. Um, I would say, after you know,

489
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: it's cool. Mark. I don't know if you've ever kind

490
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: of delve in anything like this, but you know, for

491
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: the amount of people that listen to some of our show,

492
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: for to sit down and read hundreds of people kind

493
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: of pitching why they want to be a podcaster or

494
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: why they want to do something, you get to learn

495
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: a little bit about everyone, what they want to hear,

496
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: what they want to say, kind of what their dreams are,

497
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: what you know, what they've been thinking about, stewing on

498
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: what they think they might be able to do. And

499
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: and I felt like I learned a lot about um

500
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: our our community, the people that listen to this show.

501
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that people are listen to your show

502
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: and the Medior podcast and Remy Warren's show and Steve

503
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: Show like all that stuff. So I felt like I

504
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: learned a lot about everyone um and to that to

505
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: that end, I would say about a third of the

506
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: people that wrote in wanted to do a podcast from

507
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: the perspective of a non hunter UM or from a

508
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: new hunter, let's say, like adult onset type of approach.

509
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: And so I learned that, you know, old Fill the

510
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: engineer here. However, we can get them out in the

511
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: woods in the next little bit of time. It's gonna

512
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: be a good thing for everybody. Not only do well,

513
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: I'll be able to mess with Phil out in the

514
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: out of doors, but um people would get to hear

515
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: what he goes through from trying to find a hunter

516
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: safety course to to taking one to going out and hunting,

517
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: to get your license, to learn about firearms and archery,

518
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: a tackle, and then just all the all the other

519
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: conundrums that come up. So um, that was one thing

520
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: I learned. The other thing I learned is like, if

521
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: you really want to have a podcast out there, go

522
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: and do it. Like the worst thing is is not

523
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: is not trying. Um, if you fail, you fail. Oh

524
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: yeah man. And I started my podcast with less than

525
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: a hundred dollars of equipment, and I essentially I'm still

526
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: using I've I've bought stuff and upgraded it and then

527
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: went back to my original setup. I am using in

528
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: eighty dollar microphone on my computer to do a podcast.

529
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: That's I mean, as you know, it reaches a lot

530
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: of people for no money. I mean it it's you

531
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: do not do not feel like money or something special

532
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: about you is keeping you from being will do a podcast?

533
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: Anyone can do it. Come to it with a good

534
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: idea and some stick tutiveness, and uh do the kind

535
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: of things like you're doing Ben, connecting and engaging with

536
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: an audience, and you can you can really do some

537
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: cool stuff with it. Yeah, and what a great time,

538
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: As it turns out, what a great time to start

539
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: a podcast. I feel like the coronavirus, it's going to

540
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: be a time where a lot of babies are conceived.

541
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: Just saying, guys, yeah, just saying, watch out, Phil, just

542
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: watch out. You guys have talked about vasecton used on

543
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: this podcast, No, we probably should. That's something that is

544
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: a very it's a very hot topic in my householder.

545
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I mean, I'm the one doing the pressuring

546
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,239
Speaker 1: around here. I'm like, let's cut that thing off. Like

547
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: my wife's my wife's wanted. I'm squeamish. I don't I

548
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: don't want. I don't want more kids. But I also

549
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: just do not like the idea of you know, sy

550
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: so I I I love it. I'm gonna tell the

551
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: doctor don't put me under. If there's anything that you

552
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: can actually make you feel the feel the pain even more,

553
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: I want that drug. That's that's Phil for you. Phil

554
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: is the massacrest. I'm cutting my open doc speechless. Phil

555
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 1: speak going to be a good backcountry hunter man like

556
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: proud can't wait. Uh No, I'm not. I don't want

557
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: to do it, but my wife wants a third child,

558
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: um kind of which I can't In the throes of

559
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: a brand new child. I can't even fathom it. I can't.

560
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: I refuse to even to entertain the idea. Yeah, the popular,

561
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: the popular saying being like, oh, it goes from man

562
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: to man defense to zone defense. That's absolutely true. Man

563
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: to man defense is a big time advantage for the

564
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: for the defense. And it's still hard though, Yeah, it's

565
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: very hard. And so anyway, I don't really I'm getting

566
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: nervous and I got already got anxiety about the coronavirus.

567
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about this anymore. Mark, get

568
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: bastard for bringing Actually this, this, this is a great

569
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: podcast idea. We all, all three of us get vasectomies. Now,

570
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: that would be a show, that would be that would

571
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: be a show like we called the ice the Ice

572
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: Pack Hour with Ben Mark. And you know what's funny

573
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: is it the most popular time of year to get

574
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: a vasectomy is right now because most people, yeah, the

575
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: time for marsh Madness and this year. Can you imagine

576
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: how shitty it must be to be the guys that

577
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: scheduled their vasectomies right now? And then marsh Madness gets canceled, Like,

578
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, I gotta watch Netflix. Oh no, yeah, no,

579
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm scared of that. Anyway, we gotta we

580
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: gotta pick mark of those three podcast ideas, what is

581
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: your favorite and what would you pick if you were voting.

582
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: I think they're great all three, but I vote for

583
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: the science podcast. Okay, that's Trey pu Pecao takes the lead.

584
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: Philip uh second, I second that motion the Cow. You know,

585
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to say. I want to say

586
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: the Whole Animal because I have this idea that would

587
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: be fantastic and I imagine like two brothers going at

588
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: it if they have the expertise, would be a good

589
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: be a good thing. So I'm gonna go with the

590
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: Whole Animal podcast for my boat. Um, I just want

591
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: to I want to think these brothers can really get

592
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: it done. Do you have any worries Ben that whoever

593
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: gets your podcasting equipment with this idea launches a show

594
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: and it's so wildly successful that supplants you in the

595
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Mediator podcast network and Phil goes and works for the

596
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: Whole Animal instead of working for Yeah, I I uh,

597
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: that's why I'm picking. I'm not picking my favorite because

598
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: I'd like to keep job security. No, I am totally

599
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: secure with my with th HD. Okay, okay, Mark, I'm

600
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: the totally secure. So thank you everyone for writing in.

601
00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: Good luck to Trey, Liz, and Ian and Ryan. I

602
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: just want to say, like Mark kind of brought this

603
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: up earlier. Uh, if you don't win this, and even

604
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: to the hundreds of people who wrote in and didn't

605
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: make it to the top three, it is that is.

606
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: It has never been cheaper to do something like this,

607
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: never been easier. There's never been more resources online to

608
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: get you started. So if you have an idea and

609
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: you think that you wanna, you know, get some free time,

610
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: and you're passionate about it, just do it. But yeah,

611
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: that's true, that's true. Go out and do it, man.

612
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: That's what why podcast is so beautiful that like people,

613
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: it's it's really a democratic medium. Man. You can hop

614
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: onto iTunes for free and listen for free. You can

615
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: have a podcast that costs nothing but an account to

616
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: a servicing account like lips in, and a microphone, a

617
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: computer and some buddies that are have something interesting to say. So, um,

618
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: go do it. Man. Use this as a as a

619
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: good time to plan it and go and do it. Man.

620
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: You're probably sitting around your house. Um, this is a

621
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: good time to get out there in a podcast. Maybe

622
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: make a baby while you're at it. Whatever you want

623
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: to do, it's up to you. But don't do them

624
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: at the same time. That's what I would say. That

625
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: would be a podcast if you do. Just make sure

626
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: you put that that not safe for work sticker, that

627
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: explicit sticker on your show. Yeah, make sure the microphone

628
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: has a wind screen because you're gonna want to them

629
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: a lot of what man, Yeah, something like that. Um,

630
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: so good luck to Trey, to Liz, to Ian and Ryan.

631
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: You guys are welcome to go out and campaign for

632
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: yourselves on Instagram or Twitter or Facebook whatever. Get people

633
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: to vote for you. Just send them to at any

634
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: of the three oh one all on Instagram. Go to

635
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: my Instagram story and there will be the place to vote. Um,

636
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: while you're there, you know, give me a follow and

637
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: send me a real nice comment. Make me feel good

638
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: about myself because that's what this is all about anyway. Uh.

639
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: And that's it. That's all of the giveaways that that

640
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: lasted quite a long time. Phil. There's your podcast we've

641
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: been doing. We did Mark. We did these four giveaways

642
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: for episode one, and I didn't realize it would take

643
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: months to like worked them out and get them all delivered.

644
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize, but I'm happy it did because

645
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: it was really fun. Um, I had a good time, Phil,

646
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: Did you have a good time? Uh? Yeah, I mean

647
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: I think I've said it a hundred times, but I'm

648
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: still like, I'm still confused by the response, and uh, flattered,

649
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: And I think, Ben, you should be flattered more than anyone. Obviously,

650
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: it's you've got to You've got a very passionate audience. Yeah,

651
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: we had poems, we had illustrations, we had what else

652
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: do we have everything? We had turkey calls, just videos.

653
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: People were framing pictures of my dead hamster squeakers. People

654
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: were having family game nights to draw Phil. Um. It was.

655
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. So there's this, and this could totally

656
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: hijack where you want to go with this, So feel

657
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: free to postpone your answer for some other time. But oftentimes,

658
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: in business or podcasting or whatever you often are, an

659
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: idea is to try to imagine your typical audience member

660
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: or customer and kind of put together their whole um

661
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: suite of preferences and demographics. And various things to try

662
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: to understand who this person is. And so, based off

663
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: of all these contest entries and various other feedback and

664
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: messages you've gotten, can you describe, like who your audience

665
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: member is an over generalized version of like what this

666
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: person is? Is this like an urban uh non hunter

667
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: who's twenty forty, or like do you have any kind

668
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: of assumption of who your average listeners based off this? Now?

669
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: I do? I do? They all look exactly like me? Uh?

670
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: And are my age? Phil got? I mean, if Joe

671
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: Ferronado was under he would probably he would probably um

672
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: back me up that we we did. People send a

673
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: lot of videos in for our turkey calling contest of

674
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: themselves and half of them were uh, probably thirty five

675
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: and had a beard. Um. I don't know if the

676
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: beards all they grew a beard after they saw my beard,

677
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: which I doubt they did. That would be stupid, or

678
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: if they just all bearded. People all kind of came

679
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: to this show. I don't know the chicken or the egg,

680
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: you know how that is? Margins, you don't know, there's

681
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: nowhere to know, uh, but you know the podcast contest

682
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 1: funny enough, was the thing that really got me thinking

683
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: about that. And I didn't expecting go into expecting to

684
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: be inspired or feel anything. I just wanted to have

685
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: fun and help someone out, um and and just share creativity.

686
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: Like you know, this show is a lot of just

687
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: in your show too, Mark, I'm sure, just random things

688
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: you think of that you find interesting and that you

689
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: want to explore, and they take on lives of their own.

690
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted to do here. I just

691
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: thought it would be fun for everybody, and then it

692
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: takes on a life of its own once it gets gone.

693
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: And in this case, as I was sitting there reading

694
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: all these podcasts ideas, I realized that, I mean, we

695
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: had teachers, we had middle school teachers, high school teachers,

696
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: high school students. I had a couple in from like

697
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: high school, outdoors clubs, um. We had research professionals as

698
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: you heard, we had mothers, we had we had a

699
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: nuclear physicist was one of them. We had military, we

700
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: had first responders, we had firefighters, we had I mean

701
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: just just from all walks of life people that listen

702
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: to this show and that um that appreciates something about it.

703
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know what, or I just wanted

704
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: to win a podcast kid. I don't know what the

705
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: motivation is, right, but um, that was a part of

706
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: it that struck me. And it wasn't I wasn't reading

707
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: it to kind of, you know, have any feeling about

708
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: the audience. I just wanted to to to put as

709
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: much time into the um reading each one of the

710
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: submissions as people took to put them together and send

711
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: them to me. So that's that's really. It was just

712
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: like an exercise that turned into something that for me,

713
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't meant to be. UM And really, I just

714
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 1: I came out of it appreciating how many different people

715
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: can come and gather around hunting and the outdoors and

716
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: caring about it, and it's just silliness at the same time,

717
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: complete ridiculous. We we I don't know if you listen

718
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: to them, but we wrapped and sung some of the

719
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: poems from one of our contests, and I listened back

720
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: to him like, this is the most ridiculous thing that

721
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: I've ever heard in my life. And I don't know

722
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: what to do with it, but I'm glad we did it.

723
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: It's like it's just not the norm within the hunting world. No,

724
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: I would say that's a perfect way to describe you, Ben.

725
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: I think it's great. I hate I hate to I

726
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: hate reflecting on anything. I'd like to just do things

727
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: and then move on. But they're reflecting on just how

728
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: many people out there are from different have different perspectives,

729
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: are from different places. All of the contest winners, um

730
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: three at the ones we've announced so far, we're from

731
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: the New England States. I think we had a New Hampshire,

732
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: Massachusetts in Connecticut, which was kind of random and funny,

733
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: but it just goes to show you people think of

734
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: meat eater or they like typify your podcast market like,

735
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: oh it's a it's must be all Midwesterners and in

736
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: the Eastern folks. Um, we got emails from every place

737
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: in this country and every in places internet. Actually, a

738
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: bunch from Canada, a bunch from England, a bunch of

739
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: New Zealand, a bunch of Australia. Um, a couple from

740
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: South America. Even so whatever, man, just be glad to

741
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: be a part of something, whether it's a podcast or

742
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't even care what it is, where you can

743
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: share share this conversations with so many people. So that

744
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: was a long winded way of saying, like man, it

745
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: was really inspiring and cool to read all these submissions

746
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: and thank you everyone for sending them in. So, Mark,

747
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna what's your contest gonna be for a while? Yeah.

748
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: The contest is to try to draw what you think

749
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: the average Hunting Collective audience member looks like. I like it.

750
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: That's gonna be drawing a bunch of just a bunch

751
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: of trolls with beards like what we do let the

752
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: All right, well, good, you have any final thoughts there,

753
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: Phil on our episode one hundred stuff and what it

754
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: turned into your I guess you already kind of gave them. Yeah,

755
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: I kind of. I kind of summed it up for

756
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for contributing. Yeah, thanks. I always always tune you

757
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 1: out when you're talking, Phil, I try not to listen

758
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: to to what you're saying. That's okay, I do the

759
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: exact same thing to myself. Oh I thought you would

760
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: say to me, all right, well thanks for listening. Okay, cool,

761
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Um, but that's it, So I will

762
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna the next contest, as you guys heard, already,

763
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: hand turkeys. He could he could get a thousand hand turkeys.

764
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: That's the goal. Yeah, plaster them all over the office,

765
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: not just behind my desk. One thousand hand turkey drawings.

766
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: That's what's want, that's what we want. That's what I'm

767
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: even for. If I can get a thousand, I don't

768
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do. Probably I'll probably retire. Um,

769
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: So get your hands ready because because after this whole

770
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: coronavirus thing, hand drawn hand turkeys will be the only

771
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: form of currency. We'll have to cut all our hands

772
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: off to avoid shaking them. Uh. All right, that's that's

773
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,959
Speaker 1: coming up, So just just get ready for that. So, um, Phil,

774
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: your your release from duty. You can go back, uh

775
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: to hang out with your kids and probably fake working

776
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: from home. You're supposed to be working from home or

777
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: you do you plan to do work? Yeah? Well, I

778
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: already mixed one of your shows today, and now I'm

779
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: recording a podcast with you. I'm recording another podcast with

780
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: you later today, and then I'm mixing another one of

781
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: your shows. So pretty all the work I'm doing today

782
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: is just for you specifically, so I just thought i'd

783
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: let you know. Thanks. It's actually for the listener who

784
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: we just described h all over the world, and that's

785
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: who it's for. Philip hp to do it. I'll always

786
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: defend the listener on TC. I won't let I won't

787
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: let Phil. Phil is always trying to degrade you. I'm

788
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: always trying to build you up and keep you, keep

789
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: you with us. Um. All right, well we're gonna tell

790
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: the story of the Wide eight Phil. So go take

791
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: a breather and I'll see you briefly. Cool, have fun,

792
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Uh, when's the last time you're on the

793
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: back forties? Uh? Uh? Two days ago Saturday, Saturday, Sunday.

794
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: I was on the back for you. Today's Monday, Monday. Yeah,

795
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: so it was Saturday a couple of days ago. Wow, Okay,

796
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: what how's it looking over there? It's looking okay. Um,

797
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: I was out there. Frost seating. Uh So. Frost seeding

798
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: is a way of planting something without actually tilling or

799
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: disking or plowing anything into the ground. You actually broadcast

800
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: seed just on top of what's there early enough in

801
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 1: the year that they're still freezing and thawing cycles. So

802
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: the ground's gonna freeze at some points and it's gonna

803
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: thaw later in the day, and so the ground expands

804
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: and then contracts, expands and then contracts and that sucks

805
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: in the seed into the soil and allows stuff to grow.

806
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: So I'm frost seating switch grass, which is a type

807
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 1: of grass that's going to provide a lot of cover

808
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: and structure across these old fields that we talked about

809
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: last time. Um, frost were critters, and so I was

810
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: doing that. It's been a big pain in the butt. Um.

811
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: Two different broadcast seaters I bought have already broken on me.

812
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: So um as the as it was last year, gear

813
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: and equipment issues continue. Oh boy. Yeah, I mean we

814
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: got a lot of big plans for the back for

815
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: you this year, and I can only imagine that this

816
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: is just the beginning. Yeah, man, and this whole uh

817
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: coronavirus thing is throwing a loop already into it as

818
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: we speak. Yeah, we're supposed to be filming next week

819
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: and now obviously we're not doing that, and we're trying

820
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: to do a lot of things out there. So we'll

821
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: leave that for other conversations. But I think I do

822
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: think that um, in general, what we want to do

823
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: on that that property this year, we're gonna still do it. Um.

824
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: We're still going to do all the big projects we

825
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: wanted to want to do whether we get to film

826
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: them and show them to you on back for to

827
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: you the actual show or not. UM, we're still gonna

828
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: do them. We're still gonna make that property the best

829
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: that possibly can be. And if we can't get camera

830
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: guys there, we can't everybody else there to film, and

831
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: we'll still bring to you somehow. Marco'll take his phone

832
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: out there and show you what he's doing, So just

833
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: stick with us. We got big plans for the back

834
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: forward for spring, summer, fall and then the next year,

835
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: but lots and lots to do. But the big I

836
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: imagine that like, do you think the wide eight, the

837
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: fact he killed the White eight last year, do you

838
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: feel like that will be the high point of the

839
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: property or do we got are we going to hit

840
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: another high note? Are we gonna be chasing that all year? No,

841
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: we'll have a high note. That won't be the beginning.

842
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: That was simply a dot of optimism to begin the

843
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: growth curve. I would say, I think, Um, I think

844
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: what we had last year was very very very much

845
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: a raw, rough canvas that we are trying to draw

846
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: hanting on and this year, barring any more disasters, Um,

847
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: if we were able to do the things we want

848
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: to do. The place should be a lot better this year. UM.

849
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: So I think we'll see a lot more of all

850
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: sorts of wildlife. I think we've got plans to bring

851
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: in some guests. It will be a lot of fun

852
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: to share this place with. And I think we'll I

853
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: think we'll see more dear and I think there'll be

854
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: some success. So I think this year will be really cool.

855
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: I think the coolest thing even if we don't have

856
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: a successful hunt like we did last year where it

857
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: killed the wide at a big mature buck. Even if

858
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: we don't kill mature buck this year, I think it

859
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: will be really a high point just to see it transformed,

860
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: to see the new version of it this fault, and

861
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: to see how animals and all sorts of new life

862
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: is kind of flush across this landscape. I think that

863
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: will be a high point, just to see that experience that. Um,

864
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking for that a lot. Yeah. And then for you,

865
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: I guess maybe for those of you that don't know,

866
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: back Ford is a property that that Meat Eater bought

867
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: and Mark Kenyan manages and we're making a show about it. Um.

868
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: And it's six or four acres in Michigan. And as

869
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: you said, it's kind of like it wasn't a blank canvas,

870
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: but it was definitely a run of the mill farm.

871
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: You can just inherit and start shooting the big bucks

872
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: walk around. I mean, um, a lot of work had

873
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: to be done, has been done, will be done. Um,

874
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: A lot of times going into thinking about what what's

875
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: the best thing for this property and why, um, why

876
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: we need to do what we're gonna do, and so

877
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: it's it's an interesting I've never been a part of

878
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: something like this. I've least ground for hunting. I've been

879
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: a part of those processes, but not never something so intimate. Um.

880
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: And you and I were talking about, you know, just

881
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: a property in general. How how the more you get

882
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: to know something, you would think the closer you got

883
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: to it. Right, the more you know about a property,

884
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: you would think the closer you felt to it, that

885
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: intimate knowledge of every corner of it, every field, every hedgerow,

886
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: every tree, you kind of know what's going on. But

887
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: we were talking about recently, like the closer you get

888
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: to a property, the more you realize what you don't know,

889
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: the more you realize how much there isn't there. Yeah,

890
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: It's like there's these different levels to getting to know

891
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: a place, and so you you start to get to

892
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: know a place a whole lot, and you feel like, oh,

893
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: I know that there's an oak tree over there, and

894
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: I know there's a such and such tree there, and

895
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: then there's this corner there. So you get to know

896
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: something really well on that level. But if you keep going,

897
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: then you go to this next level where you then

898
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: have all these new questions because now you're starting to ask,

899
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: why does this happen there, or why is this thing

900
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: happening there that's influencing this wildlife movement or whatever. And

901
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 1: then is if you keep on digging in and your

902
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: further passionate and excited about learning this place, and you

903
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: have more experiences, then you start to see, oh, when

904
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: I made this change, it influenced this. And there's this

905
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: cascade of effects that I think is really interesting. If

906
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: you approach it with curiosity, Um, that's been something that

907
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: at times this property has seen limiting because like we're

908
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: just on sixty four acres, there's nothing but well, we

909
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: know every square inch almost. But then if you approach

910
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: it with curiosity and um, I don't know, ah, you

911
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: just you just keep on diving down these new rabbit

912
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: holes which are really interesting in challenging all sorts of challenges.

913
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: But I think embracing that makes it a lot of fun. Yeah,

914
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: that that's that's well, But you always do a good

915
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: job of kind of encapsulating all the things that go

916
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: into this. And um, I think that part of what

917
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: I hope to get out of of the back Ford.

918
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: And we were talking about this about what what might

919
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: we do after the back Ford or what what else

920
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: can we figure out in terms of hunting. I think

921
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: that what meat Eater has done as a brand and

922
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: and Steve Ronnell as a person and kind of what

923
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: all the things that he means to hunting is is

924
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: to be able to say, like, what's happening on the ground.

925
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: What makes us relatable to everybody? Um, what makes a

926
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: sixty four acre property in Michigan relatable to everybody listening

927
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: to this? There's got to be something that you can

928
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: relate to. Even if you don't own a proper of

929
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: your own, if you've never hunted on white tails on

930
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: in Michigan you don't ever intend to. There's some appreciation

931
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: for for the land and for the animals that you

932
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: can learn from what from your experience, right from Mark's experience.

933
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: But but then let's say you have a property like this,

934
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: or you do intend to want to have a property

935
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: like this, you can also learn some very intimate things

936
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: on the ground that you can either do better or

937
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: or you can try to emulate. And so it's it's

938
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: it's a great it's been a great process. I guess

939
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: that it's it's more of an internal feeling for me

940
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: having worked on the show with you. But I think, um,

941
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: for those who haven't watched back forward you even those

942
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: who have and are looking forward to the season two,

943
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: that's how that's why I enjoy it. Because of that approach,

944
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 1: we're able to be broad but also kind of of

945
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: hit things on the ground floor where they're happening on

946
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: that property. Yeah. I mean it's been i opening for

947
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: me in so many different ways. Have have thought that

948
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: I had a lot of experience of these kinds of

949
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: things leading up to it, and I thought, oh, this

950
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: is great. You get to own a property and do

951
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: whatever you want on it. This will be a piece

952
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: of cake. This is the dream come true. Um, this

953
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: will be a slam dunk. And you very quickly realize

954
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: that there's a lot more to it. Um, challenges and opportunities. Um.

955
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: And so it's been a hell of a journey, that's

956
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 1: for sure. By the time it's all said and done,

957
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: we'll have had a lot of fun, will have worked

958
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: our tails off and learned a lot. Yeah, that's for sure.

959
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: And that's all you can really ask for. We had

960
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: Charles Rodney on the show a couple of weeks ago,

961
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: and that's what he always says. He's like, be safe,

962
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: have fun, learn go like this. That's and I take

963
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: that in from a guy like that. Um. You know

964
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: what I want to talk about before you get any further,

965
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: UM soil and a guy named Gabe Brown. I think

966
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: at this point you could probably give us a lot

967
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: about game. Brown. We we went to um Rome Ranch

968
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: back in November and we did a podcast for THD

969
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: about soil and about rejective agriculture and about kind of

970
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 1: the if if you were looking at the great mysteries

971
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: and our society, like or or one of the more

972
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: important things we could explore soil is never we think

973
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: about the ocean, we think about our climate, we don't

974
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: ever really think about the soil. UM soil becomes this

975
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: like connective tissue or connective organism for everything everything we eat,

976
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: you know, every every place we walk, whatever. So could

977
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: you give us just a quick rundown from from your

978
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: perch on the back forward you why soil matters and

979
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: that there's this guy named Gay Brown that that you've

980
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: been been talking about to me. Yeah. Well, like you said,

981
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: soil is it is the foundation that almost everything that

982
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: we depend on is built on. There is more life

983
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: in soil beneath the surface of the ground than there

984
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 1: is above it. It's smaller life, but the sheer volume

985
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: of different little critters and things going on down there

986
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: is incredible. And our health, our ability to grow things,

987
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: to have food, to to do all the things that

988
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: we need as as humans and then on a more

989
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: granular level as hunters or wildlife managers. It all depends

990
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: on that part of the of the building, which is

991
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: the foundation, which is soil. And soil has been becoming

992
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: seriously degraded decade over decade over decade. I think the

993
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: last number I saw is that we have lost fifty

994
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: of our top soil across the world over the last

995
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: century and a half, so since industrial agriculture, since the

996
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: plow um of sorts started being used prevalently. We've lost

997
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: half of the available high quality soil to grow stuff,

998
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: and we're losing more and more and more and more

999
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: because of a number of different practices within you know,

1000
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: within the agricultural world and and even within wildlife agriculture

1001
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: that management all those different types of things. Um, we're

1002
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: killing the biology of soil every time we plowed up,

1003
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: or we leave it bear um, or we plant the

1004
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: same thing over and over and over in a monoculture,

1005
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: or we apply a bunch of chemicals. All these things

1006
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: are killing the life within soil that gives life to

1007
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: everything that comes out of it. That's a very overly

1008
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: simplified generalized explanation of why soil matters. But um, basically

1009
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: what what Gay Brown, who is a farmer from north

1010
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: North Dakota has been sharing, and a lot of folks

1011
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 1: from within the natural resource um oh, natural resource why

1012
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: am I Conservation Service? Thank you from the government, and

1013
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: a whole lot of people across the country now are

1014
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: speaking about our new ways to think about planting crops,

1015
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: new ways of farming that can preserve the quality and

1016
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: life of our soil. And that's going to lead to

1017
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: more nutrient dense crops. It's going to lead to better yields,

1018
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: it's going to lead to less erosion, it's going to

1019
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: lead to less pollution with chemicals getting into our water sources.

1020
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: All many, many, many different benefits. So this is a

1021
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: topic that has become an interest to me because when

1022
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 1: we started looking into this idea of the back forward,

1023
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: we want to try to manage this place, UM to

1024
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: be a wildlife paradise, but also as environmentally friendly and

1025
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: as as as as healthy of an ecosystem as we

1026
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: possibly could. And so I knew from the get go

1027
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: that UM, thinking about soil would have to be part

1028
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: of the equation. And so I started diving into it

1029
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: last winter last spring. And Gay Brown was one of

1030
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: these people who wrote a book called Dirt to Soil

1031
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: that has been one of those highly one of the

1032
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: most highly recommended books on this topic. UM ever want

1033
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: to talk to would always point back to that book.

1034
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: Go read that book, Go read that book. Listen to

1035
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: his ted talk. UM, So I did, and UM, what

1036
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: you learned is that there's a handful of and you

1037
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: can cut me off at any point I from going

1038
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: too deep and keep going. You might have covered this

1039
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: already in your Rome Ranch podcast, But there's these principles

1040
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: of healthy soil that should be thought about whenever you're

1041
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: going to be moving forward with some kind of work

1042
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: with the ground. So what we're trying to do with

1043
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: the back ford and I'll give you this the really

1044
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: high level, and I might forget something here, but you

1045
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: want to reduce tillage as much as possible, because whenever

1046
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: you're tilling or plowing ground, you're you're breaking apart the

1047
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: soil biology. You're you're losing oisture too, to the atmosphere.

1048
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: So anytime you can no till, that's a better option.

1049
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: Anytime you can keep the soil armored. You want to

1050
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: have something growing at all times because nature, in nature,

1051
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be stuff growing. Nature of bores a

1052
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: vacuum is the phrase of her in the past. So

1053
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: you want roots, living roots in the soil at all times.

1054
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: That's different than what you're seeing in traditional agriculture, where

1055
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: a crop is planted in May or June and it's

1056
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: harvested in September or October or November, and then it's

1057
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: just dead. It's a desert for five months or six

1058
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: months or whatever. Um, you also want diversity in nature.

1059
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: You never see a monoculture. You never see the same

1060
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: plant everywhere. There's always diversity in nature. But across massive

1061
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: swaths of America, in the entire world, we're planting monoculture,

1062
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: single species crops that are covering the landscape with just

1063
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: one single thing that's not natural. That's not healthy for soil,

1064
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: It's not healthy for the environment in a lot of ways.

1065
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: So diverse planting. UM. Reducing chemical uh inputs like synthetic fertilizers,

1066
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: synth excuse excuse me, synthetic fertilizers, synthetic herbicides. UM, those

1067
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: things are not helping us. Um is that four? Yeah? Thanks,

1068
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting I'm forgetting something here now. But um. But

1069
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: but basically, high level point of all this is that

1070
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: soil matters. I've been trying to learn a lot about

1071
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: it and trying to implement these practices on the back forty.

1072
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: We did that last year for the first time, both

1073
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: on the back forty and on another farm. I'm able

1074
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: to do a little bit of work on I tried

1075
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: this stuff for the first time and UM learned a lot.

1076
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to try it again this year. Yeah, I

1077
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: mean the thing that I've always seen and heard and

1078
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: when I was at Room Ranch that they said to

1079
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: me that got me going, there's more living organisms and

1080
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: a teaspoon of soil than the rest of the earth,

1081
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: than all of the Earth compared to combined. And so

1082
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 1: it's like this, this is this, it's a bias fhere,

1083
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: it's assist a biological system what soil is, and we

1084
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: have to treat it like that. And what's funny is

1085
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: roset Room Branch there show they showed me the difference

1086
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: between the chocolate cake looking soil visually, it's it's arresting.

1087
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: Here's you know here they say, here, look under this

1088
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: cover crop. Here's uh soil that hasn't been tilled up,

1089
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: that hasn't been planted in about three or four years.

1090
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: Look at what this looks like. And it looks like

1091
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: chocolate cake. And then you go one field over and

1092
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: you're like this soils, this soil has been tilled yearly

1093
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: for the past who knows how long, and it's like

1094
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: red sand um. There's no nutrients in it, there's nothing biological,

1095
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: there's nothing, no earthworms crawling in it. It's basically dead soil.

1096
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: And then what they described to me is that once

1097
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: you get to this point, you still need this land

1098
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: to produce crops, so you can so that farmer can

1099
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: make a living, so that farmer can have, um a

1100
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: life on the farm. And what you then have to

1101
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: do is use those of gladiatives for to to make

1102
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: the soil fertile. And that's the only way from there

1103
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: all and you're kind of dependent on those chemicals to

1104
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: make things grow in the soil that you've destroyed. So

1105
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: it's a weird circular pattern of destruction that. Um, it's alarming,

1106
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: and I think regetitive agriculture I've seen it a lot more.

1107
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I've just been looking for it recently, since I've

1108
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: been learning about it as you have. Maybe I've been

1109
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: looking for it more. But I've seen it repeated a

1110
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: lot in these circles. People are talking about it more,

1111
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: and people are thinking about soil and looking to people

1112
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: like Gay Brown for leadership. Yeah, for leadership, um, And

1113
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: so give us a rundown. You know, hopefully we can

1114
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: film a lot of this, but like on the back forty,

1115
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: how do you intend to approach it? Gabe hopefully is

1116
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: going to come and help us with this, but um,

1117
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: but you're supposed to be there next week, but now

1118
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: he can't can't come because of the quarantine. But you

1119
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: know what's the intention with Gabe, And in terms of soil, well,

1120
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: the hope is that game is gonna come out and

1121
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: take a look at the soil that we have on

1122
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: the farm right now and tell us a little bitut

1123
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: what he's seeing there. Um. From everything I can gather,

1124
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: you can tell this has been intensively plowed in farm

1125
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: soil for decades and decades and decades, so it's seriously degraded. Um.

1126
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna come and take a look

1127
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: at that, and then we're going to talk to him

1128
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: about those different principles, principles of soil health and ways

1129
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: that we can plant crops on the back forty but

1130
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: do it in a way that is good for the

1131
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: whole ecosystem, good for the soil. Um. And so, like

1132
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: I said, started these things last year and a couple

1133
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: of small food plots we planted this year. We're expanding

1134
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: the food plots in quite a uh quite a significant way,

1135
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: excuse me. So we're gonna continue to use a no

1136
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: till approach. We're gonna minimize the use of any herbicides

1137
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: as much as possible. UM, We're going to institute a

1138
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: rotation of crops that allows us to keep something growing

1139
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: at all times. And then it also uses UM. By

1140
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: keeping something going all the time, you don't then have

1141
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: the weed issues that then require you use herbicides like

1142
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: people traditionally do. So we'll have a rotation, will utilize

1143
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: a really diverse blend of plants rather than the typical

1144
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: monoculture plantings. UM. Again, that's gonna be great for all

1145
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: sorts of different types of wildlife. It's also gonna be

1146
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: good for the soil. It's also going to make things

1147
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: easier from us for us from an input standpoint. UM.

1148
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: And that's you know, at the high level, it's it's

1149
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,919
Speaker 1: gonna be doing those things that all those things, they're

1150
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult or to get started with

1151
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: maybe than the traditional ways I've done it. But I

1152
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: think once you get it going, you start seeing some

1153
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: real benefits. And we're just in that beginning stage. So

1154
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: I think Gave is gonna be able to provide some

1155
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: really helpful guidance just as far as the things I

1156
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: should be looking for, the things that should be focusing

1157
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: on Um, hopefully we can avoid some of this mistakes.

1158
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure he did experience early on in his years. Um,

1159
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: maybe he can pass along a few points. Is to

1160
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: keep my mistakes as minimal as possible. Yeah, but there's

1161
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: to it. Well, Like like we said before, I mean,

1162
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: is this is one of those things where people can

1163
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: learn from you because we're gonna document every single thing

1164
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: that you go through. Um, and I think it's beautiful

1165
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: about the way you approach it, in the way that's

1166
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: been done. Is this. You're not an expert, you're not

1167
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: gay Brown, but you're relying on other experts to come

1168
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: in and kind of give you the guidance and then

1169
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: you gotta go do it yourself. And if you screw

1170
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: it up, oh you know, Oh well, Um, that's just

1171
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: how a. Yeah, you're the great guinea pig. And that's

1172
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: why you can't get sick mark. You can't get coronavirus

1173
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: because then the back forty will fall apart. I don't

1174
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: know what we'll do if that happens. I don't know,

1175
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: but I think it's good. I mean, I think it's

1176
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: good to understand. Um. One, we had a guy named

1177
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: Luke McCauley out last year who kind of gave us

1178
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: who painted the picture had done done this prior for

1179
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: you and I, but but painted the picture of kind

1180
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: of why are small farms important? We talk about public

1181
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,919
Speaker 1: lands all the time. I mean, you wrote a book

1182
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: about it. Um. These are large swaths of millions and

1183
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: millions of acres. But now we're talking about sixty four acres.

1184
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: And and it may seem like that's not a big deal.

1185
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: A soil on a sixty four acre farm may not

1186
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: seem like that big a deal. But when you multiply

1187
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: that out over millions of millions of acres that are

1188
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: similarly managed, if everyone could adopt some some principle that

1189
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: one allows people to still make money and allows people

1190
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: still have profitable acreage in terms of farming and feed

1191
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: themselves and feed each other, um, and feed into our

1192
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: industrial system. You know, that's that's one. But that allows

1193
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: for soil health and for ecosystem health and for you know,

1194
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: wildlife health. UM. I think that's the aim. And and

1195
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: so if you haven't watched back for you can go

1196
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: back and watch those things, um and and see it

1197
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: YouTube channel yeah medior YouTube, go there, um, and at

1198
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: some point we'll be able to come back out and

1199
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: start filming season two. Okay. If not, I'm just gonna

1200
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: keep on shutting along out there doing stuff and one

1201
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: day you'll just show back up with the camera like, whoa,

1202
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: what if you it's on fire? Literally? Holy crap? Yeah?

1203
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: Well good, Um, anything else about the back for you.

1204
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: I know, we're going to do some prescribe burning. Um,

1205
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: we're hoping to get with a consultant and look at

1206
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: building a pond there. Man, We're gonna put wood duck boxes.

1207
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: We still gotta get honey from our bees from last year.

1208
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: A million things to do, Yeah, lots lots going on.

1209
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: Bees and wetlands and ponds and grasses and prescribe burns

1210
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: and new plantings of various food sources and creating new

1211
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: cover and bedding areas with evergreen plantings and trees and

1212
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: orchards and mushrooms. I mean, just a plethora of food

1213
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: and plants and animals and a bounty, a bounty of nature.

1214
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: Tell people about here's a good hot tip. Tell people

1215
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: about growing their own mushrooms. Oh gosh, I'm the wrong

1216
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: guy to to ask about that, Ben, because I I've

1217
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: heard is the little idea that Steve mentioned where Supposedly,

1218
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: I can tell you that tell me the supposedly what

1219
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: you can do, so they can look forward to seeing

1220
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 1: you try this out. Supposedly you can get spores from mushrooms,

1221
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: put them on a chainsaw and make cuts into old

1222
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:22,959
Speaker 1: dead stumps with these mushroom spores and it will impregnate

1223
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: or or whatever the right war is. Um you you're

1224
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: thinking about. Yeah, you can see where our heads are at. Um. Yeah,

1225
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: and you can essentially plant your own mushrooms where you

1226
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: want them. Um. I don't know how easy this to do.

1227
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's real. Um, but we're gonna

1228
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: give a shot, see what we can do. And we're

1229
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: first going to try to find a bunch of mushrooms

1230
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: and then we'll see if we can inoculate some stumps.

1231
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: The more. Yeah, to look forward to what else we're

1232
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: gonna do there this spring. We're gonna get turkey hut uh,

1233
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: get some morrel mushrooms. We're gonna plant a bunch of

1234
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: trees with our friend Doug during Um, we're gonna plant

1235
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 1: some orchards with some some fruit bearing trees in there.

1236
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna start the our bee hives going so we

1237
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: can harvest honey later in the year. Um, we're gonna

1238
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: get everything figured out so we can dig our pond

1239
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: and put some wood duck boxes on that pond. Um

1240
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: and really, just like as we were saying before, just

1241
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: like throw a grenade of change at this place and

1242
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: and do everything we possibly can in a short term

1243
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: two make it as good as it can be, and

1244
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: then see what happens in the fall, See how wildlife

1245
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: uses the things that we create, See what we're able

1246
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: to harvest from the things we're able to create and change. Um,

1247
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: that's It's a beautiful thing for me. I love this project.

1248
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: I've been I've been in love with it from the beginning.

1249
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: It hasn't been easy. UM. I know you don't need

1250
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: me to tell you that. But but nothing but nothing,

1251
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: you know, nothing that's worth it as easy. So UM,

1252
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: I hope that those out there that are landowners or

1253
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: just can step step onto a wild place, that you

1254
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: go a publicly to public land and you go think

1255
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: about the soil next time you're there, to think about

1256
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: the time you're hiking and how your boots affect the

1257
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: trail that you're on, and how that trail affects the soil.

1258
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: And how that trail causes erosion or or things like that.

1259
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean it, once you start to learn what the

1260
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: earth is and what it means, you start to think

1261
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: about every impact that you have on it in a

1262
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: way that you know. It's not it's not your typical

1263
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: frou through environmentalist way to think about it. Man. It's

1264
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: it's like a a very direct um relationship, like your

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Speaker 1: feet matter where you're the blade of your shovel matters,

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Speaker 1: the wheels of your car matter at that that at

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Speaker 1: that point too, and so it's it's something I know

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Speaker 1: you've you've experienced for sure. So all right, that's all

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Speaker 1: that's soil. Go to uh that benyo B three oh

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Speaker 1: one and vote on our our podcasts. Um. It's it's

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Speaker 1: strange to say, there, Mark, but I'm gonna see everybody

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Speaker 1: to my row Daily podcast. Dude. Good for you. That's ambitious.

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01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: It may all fall apart on me. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines. It's already

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Speaker 1: been interesting. Um. Anything you want to say to encourage

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01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: everybody out there in this in this time, I'll let

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Speaker 1: you kind of have the floor to end it out.

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Speaker 1: I think I would just echo the sentiments we had earlier,

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Speaker 1: which is we're gonna be okay. But I do think

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Speaker 1: I do think we should also take it serious personally.

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01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: I don't think we should look at this as some

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Speaker 1: crazy conspiracy. I think we're far past that. So follow

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01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: the guidelines, be smart, take care of your family, and

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01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: then keep living your life that as best as you

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Speaker 1: can within those guidelines. Get outside, enjoy a walk in

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Speaker 1: the woods with your family. Appreciate the simple things, the

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Speaker 1: little things that we have that now we're starting to

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01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: learn maybe aren't so guaranteed in certain situations. So kiss

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Speaker 1: your wife, Hug your kids, enjoy life. Make sure it's

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Speaker 1: your wife, kiss only your wife. Kiss your wife, repecting me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh gosh, it's got awkward. All right, well, Marcus, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, buddy. Um we'll be checking in with him,

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Speaker 1: maybe later in our daily podcast journey. We'll check back

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Speaker 1: in with you, Um rendezvous in the back forty. Should

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Speaker 1: things all fall apart in terms of society, I feel

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Speaker 1: like we should we should. Uh, we should just create

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Speaker 1: a camp there, a commune where everybody can come and share,

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Speaker 1: share the wild bounty. Yes, I'll be waiting for you,

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Speaker 1: and I'll have the uh, I'll have it all set

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Speaker 1: up beautiful. I'll expect you to have grown a beard

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Speaker 1: by then, which which you clearly I'm not to this one.

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Speaker 1: I've been trying for years. Man, it might be it's

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Speaker 1: not in the cards. I don't think. Sorry, buddy, see you,

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Speaker 1: see you. That's it. That's all another episode of the

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Speaker 1: books thanks to Marcus Kenyan, thanks to this little program

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01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: we got called Squadcast, not a sponsor, but still making

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Speaker 1: my life a lot easier thanks to the hundreds of

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Speaker 1: you that wrote in and and tried to win a podcast.

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01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: So before we go at any of the three oh one,

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Speaker 1: go to my instant story. There'll be a frame there

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Speaker 1: with a poll to vote for Trey and Liz and

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Speaker 1: the brothers Russell. So go there and find them and vote, vote, vote.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna leave that open for twenty four hours and

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Speaker 1: that will determine the winners. To go and vote over there.

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Speaker 1: If any of a B three or one on Instagram.

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01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: If you don't have Instagram, send an email tell me

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01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: if you like the best. We'll figure it all out.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry. We're gonna get the right person, the equipment,

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Speaker 1: and we'll go on. So tomorrow on the Daily Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Remmy Warren. We're gonna talk about hunting

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Speaker 1: in New Zealand. We're gonna talk about where he's in

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Speaker 1: his life, what he's doing with the Quarantine. I bet

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Speaker 1: he's doing something awesome that will make us all jealous.

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Speaker 1: So tomorrow Daily Quarantine cast Remy Warren, Phil, you feel him?

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Speaker 1: How you feeling about this daily podcast? Life? So far,

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Speaker 1: so good? Um, I might have a different attitude about

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Speaker 1: it in you know, four or five days, but we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to keep spirits up, yeah, because I

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Speaker 1: think it's a fun idea. You're the man of the

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Speaker 1: people who we're doing this for the people. This is

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Speaker 1: I represent people. We don't eat, we don't sleep until

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Speaker 1: the people get what they want. That's right. That's a

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Speaker 1: little daily dose of PTE filled the engineer. All right, everybody,

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Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow. Bye bye. The Hunting Collective with Ben

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Speaker 1: O'Brien is a part of the Meat Eater podcast network.

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Speaker 1: It is produced by Cringe Schneider and engineered by Phil Taylor.

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Speaker 1: eater dot Com, or anywhere podcasts are downloadable wherever you listen,

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