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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fast Politics. Jeet here, that's me. How happy

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Speaker 1: are you that you live in Canada? Pretty happy? Dirk

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Speaker 1: Clouds on the horizon. Even here we have the head

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Speaker 1: the old joke is America sneezes and Canada gets a cold.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to prognosticate, but we can talk about

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Speaker 1: this state of American democracy, because why shouldn't we Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about it right now. Are you was worried as

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Speaker 1: President Biden about the state of American democracy? Yeah, no, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I think that uh you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: What we're seeing in this election is like it goes

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Speaker 1: You know, not a great sign for democracy right there.

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Speaker 1: bad politics to impeach Bill Clinton over you know what

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Speaker 1: another great reminder. But ging Ridge could not control his

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Speaker 1: meat yet now invented. Pete Buddha Judge is the United

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Speaker 1: States Secretary of Transportation. Welcome to Fast Politics, Mayor Pete.

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Speaker 1: of improvements. But this time a year ago people were saying,

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Speaker 1: And what wound up happening was the all time record

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Speaker 1: high in terms of retail sales. This time a year ago,

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Speaker 1: checked it was it was eight or nine. So we've

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Speaker 1: seen improvements, but we're definitely not out of the woods.

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Speaker 1: We've got issues affecting our rail system, the availability truck drivers,

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Speaker 1: in alability of warehouses. You know, good news is demand

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Speaker 1: came back, and Rescue Plan and other actions that that

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Speaker 1: I believe really are for the results of the President's

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Speaker 1: leadership mean that people have the income and the inclination

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Speaker 1: to to buy things. But that means that the supply

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Speaker 1: chain has struggled to keep up, and that's something we're

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Speaker 1: going to work on with immediate measures. But but also

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Speaker 1: importantly a part of how we get at that is

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Speaker 1: the long term investments. I've of talking about. When you

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Speaker 1: can add a birth to a container report, we can

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Speaker 1: add a rail line or improve the way of bridge works.

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Speaker 1: All of that adds up to goods moving in a

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Speaker 1: more fluid way, and that means lower shipping costs and

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Speaker 1: ultimately that that's part of how we beat information. One

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Speaker 1: of the things you've been really good at is going

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Speaker 1: on talks news and sort of being able to message

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Speaker 1: in that right wing ecosystem. How do you do it?

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Speaker 1: And how can you get all the other Democrats to

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Speaker 1: do it too? No pressure pressure. Well, I would never

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Speaker 1: Fox News would kind of be a specialty of mine.

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Speaker 1: But I think I did form certain habits as a

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Speaker 1: mayor in a place like Indiana, doing lots of local television,

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Speaker 1: trying to render our priorities in plain English and reach

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Speaker 1: people where they are. That doesn't mean that people are

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Speaker 1: going to do an into Fox and immediately be converted

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Speaker 1: to my point of view. But I do think we

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Speaker 1: need to go into these spaces were certainly on my

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Speaker 1: side of the I don't need to go into spaces

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Speaker 1: where people don't often hear our view because otherwise they'll

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Speaker 1: they'll believe whatever they're told. How can you blame them

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Speaker 1: for believing the only messages they hear, and I do

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Speaker 1: see more and more colleagues from officeholders who belong to

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Speaker 1: my party who've been willing to do it. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, you have to draw certain lines. There's certain

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Speaker 1: bad faith opinion shows, for example, that I'm just not

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Speaker 1: going to go on. But if you can have a

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Speaker 1: Let's just talk about this for a second. We're coming

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Speaker 1: up on the mid terms. Explain to me what if

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Speaker 1: you're going to make a case for Democrats, can you

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Speaker 1: talk about the infrastruate because infrastructure is a huge thing

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Speaker 1: that by and passed. Sort of give us a little

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Speaker 1: on in your town that Biden has done with American

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Speaker 1: Rescue plan. That should be sort of you know, when

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Speaker 1: you're talking to your relatives about getting out there and voting.

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Speaker 1: So I'll choose my words carefully, just because appearing as

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Speaker 1: secretary means I can't elections. But but let me say this,

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Speaker 1: the policy achievements of this administration are something I'm very

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Speaker 1: very proud of, and we need, we do need to

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Speaker 1: talk about that because it's easy to forget how far

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Speaker 1: we've come in two years. Two years ago, we were

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Speaker 1: millions of jobs shorter than where we are now, with

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Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, we were you know, people

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Speaker 1: or is it just gonna be one more talk of

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Speaker 1: the game about it. It was infrastructure every week, infrastructure

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Speaker 1: we call the time nothing happened. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: it was declared dead, you know, half a dozen times.

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Speaker 1: We got it done. But you know, I think people

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Speaker 1: really care that much about the ins and outs of

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Speaker 1: legislative victories, seats and folks obviously want to know how

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Speaker 1: this isn't affecting everyday life. And that's why I really

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Speaker 1: try to make sure we're conveying. Look, this is how

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Speaker 1: you got this new bridge that's under construction in your neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: This is why you see these new gates coming into

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Speaker 1: the airport that you come on. Is where that new

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Speaker 1: bus line is going to come from. You know it's

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Speaker 1: coming because the President led and we had a success

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Speaker 1: and by the way, including a handful of Republicans crossing

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Speaker 1: now to vote with Democrats to get this done. More broadly,

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Speaker 1: I think it's also important for us to emphasize what's

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Speaker 1: been achieved in terms of the fight against inflation. Right

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Speaker 1: this is a global fight. I mean, every developed country

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Speaker 1: is dealing with inflation. It's in a lot of European

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Speaker 1: countries too, but there are different strategies on what to

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Speaker 1: do with it. Now. I have yet to hear any

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Speaker 1: congressional Republican answer to inflation. What I will say is

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Speaker 1: that we have taken a number of us to take

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Speaker 1: the edge off the cost of living someone wh you're

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Speaker 1: outside of my transportation lane. But things like getting insulin

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Speaker 1: You know, we couldn't get one Republican vote to do that,

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Speaker 1: coming back to e VS. Making its cheaper, you know

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Speaker 1: we can get any couldn't get any Republicans to help

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Speaker 1: us with that, but we did it. It passed, and

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Speaker 1: that's going to mean money in the pockets of Americans

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Speaker 1: who can get these vehicles more affordably to the tax

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Speaker 1: credits and then say money on gas once they have them.

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Speaker 1: I want to just go back again for this idea,

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Speaker 1: like Republicans don't really have a plan for inflation. It

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Speaker 1: would be one thing if we were debating our fight,

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Speaker 1: our plans for fighting inflation with their plan for fighting inflation.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to have that debate on the floor of

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Speaker 1: the Senate, our house, right. Um, but we haven't seen

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Speaker 1: any that they like to mention inflation. Because it's the problem,

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Speaker 1: but the way they talk about it makes me sometimes

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Speaker 1: wonder if they see more value in the problem than

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Speaker 1: in solving it, because we haven't heard a lot of solutions.

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Speaker 1: I mean that speaks to this idea. The same sort

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Speaker 1: of issue with immigration, right, They don't really want to

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Speaker 1: solve that problem either. Many of them have stood in

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Speaker 1: the way of immigration reform that would put us in

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Speaker 1: a much better position when it comes to these issues.

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Speaker 1: We're saying it before, so again you'll you'll see an

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Speaker 1: enthusiasm for mentioning the problem remarkably little by way of

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Speaker 1: a solution. Let's talk about there. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: talk about Fox News as much as I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about the rainbow fit. How they managed to get

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Speaker 1: everyone upset about rainbow fent at all. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: this is something that that really upset me, not as uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, a Democrat, but as transportations, because there is

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Speaker 1: a very real documented risk for children going out on Halloween.

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Speaker 1: And it's not drug dealers randomly deciding to give free

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Speaker 1: opioids to two children. It's car catches. I mean that

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Speaker 1: that's where kids get killed or hurt on Halloween every

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Speaker 1: single year. I'm not sure of a single documented case

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Speaker 1: where one of these urban legends of of you know,

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Speaker 1: drugs or whatever being put into candy has been documented

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Speaker 1: and resulting in a serious injury or death of a

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Speaker 1: child randomly triggered treating. But I know of far, far

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Speaker 1: too many heartbreaking stories of car crashes, and that's when

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Speaker 1: we can do something about. I wish that for every

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Speaker 1: story we got about you know, fentanel going into somebody's candy,

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Speaker 1: we had a story about news you can use to

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Speaker 1: keep your kid physically safe when they're trick or treating,

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Speaker 1: because that really is something that that is a safety

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Speaker 1: issue to to worry about. And by the way, not

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Speaker 1: just on all the more generally, I mean road safety

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Speaker 1: that kills forty people a year. We treat that like

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Speaker 1: it's normal. It's on par with gun debts in this country,

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Speaker 1: and it's not the same as what you see in

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Speaker 1: other developed countries. Were taking a lot of steps to

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Speaker 1: deal with that, and it deserves to be talked about.

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Speaker 1: We should at least be talking about the real killers

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Speaker 1: as often as we're talking about the urban leaging. Right. No,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's an important point. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: shift on reality that you're seeing through right wing media,

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Speaker 1: how do you even begin to debunk some of this stuff? Well,

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Speaker 1: facts matter, right, We start by talking about things that

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Speaker 1: are most important, And it's tricky. Sometimes when you're debunking

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Speaker 1: a myth, you wind up helping to spread the myth.

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Speaker 1: Allogy is weird that way, So I think often you

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Speaker 1: actually have to blow past it and just get to

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Speaker 1: what actually matters most um and talk about the facts

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Speaker 1: more than we talk about the lives, even if we're

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Speaker 1: talking about the lives for the purpose of exposing them.

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Speaker 1: I also think that we need to bring it back

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Speaker 1: to everyday life. Right, So lots of people who will

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Speaker 1: watch and perhaps believe a news story about and do

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Speaker 1: not think that happened in there. They don't know anybody

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Speaker 1: in their actual life that happens lots of people who

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Speaker 1: were tricked into thinking that millions of illegal immigrants voted

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Speaker 1: last year do not think that happened that their precinct.

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Speaker 1: People who believe all kinds of wild things about elections

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Speaker 1: generally actually trust their own local officials to fairly handle elections.

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Speaker 1: So on issue after issue, it's one thing to talk

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Speaker 1: about it in the abstract. It's another to talk about

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Speaker 1: what we're actually experiencing in our actual lives and then

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Speaker 1: your actual you know, our actual everyday lives. Infrastructure is

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Speaker 1: getting improved, most of us have jobs. We are experiencing

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Speaker 1: higher prices, and there are things that are helping with that.

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Speaker 1: We need to bring this conversation back to the concrete

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Speaker 1: so that you can't get caught up in all this nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Such an interesting point. M mayor Pete, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much joining us. My pleasure. Thanks for having me off

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Speaker 1: while Lead she Heed is a senior Democratic strategist and

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Speaker 1: the spokesperson for Justice Democrats. Welcome to Fast Politics. Will Ly,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. I'm very excited to have you here.

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Speaker 1: We are in the run up to the mid terms,

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Speaker 1: big excitement. What is on your radar? Well, I am

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Speaker 1: really concerned and you know, while I think it's really

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Speaker 1: important for people to volunteer, donate, and vote for all

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Speaker 1: the Democrats running up and down the ticket, I'm very

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Speaker 1: nervous given the direction of the past few weeks of

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Speaker 1: media coverage, particularly about the cost of living in inflation,

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Speaker 1: and I'm concerned that Democrats haven't really addressed those concerns

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Speaker 1: for a lot of working class and middle class families

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Speaker 1: out there who are struggling to pay the bills, pay

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Speaker 1: for groceries. And that's kind of what's been keeping me

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Speaker 1: up at night. I've had horrible sleep since the weather

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Speaker 1: ex changed. Also well, Jesse, and I too. So you

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Speaker 1: are a very very senior Democratic strategist, and you've worked

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Speaker 1: with a lot of our favorite candidates. And one of

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Speaker 1: the things that Bernie has done so well is this

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Speaker 1: ability to talk about the financial the way that Democrats

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Speaker 1: are committed. And you know, my grandfather was like very

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Speaker 1: big into labor unions and also communism, and so the

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Speaker 1: idea here is that Democrats can help working people and

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Speaker 1: that's been a message that is very tough for Democrats.

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Speaker 1: For some reason, as a party, they've kind of gotten

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Speaker 1: away from this message, which is really an important message

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Speaker 1: especially when you're trying to get people to vote for you.

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Speaker 1: On some level, like I can empathize because there's so

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Speaker 1: much other stuff happening, Like the overturning of abortion rights

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Speaker 1: is incredibly important. People are really fired up about that.

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Speaker 1: The threat to our democracy from the Republican Party is

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Speaker 1: incredibly important. There is a constituency of people who are

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Speaker 1: really concerned about that. You know, at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, my feeling in my personal life, my conversation

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Speaker 1: with people on my family and my friends, are that

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Speaker 1: it's their pocketbooks, it's their expenses, it's how much money

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Speaker 1: they have in their bank accounts, in their while It's

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Speaker 1: that's also important. I think because there's been so many

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Speaker 1: crises this past year, we've kind of forgotten the most

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Speaker 1: simple effective message for Democrats is that where the party

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Speaker 1: for working people, no matter where you're from, or what

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Speaker 1: your gender is, or what your zip code is. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many people know this, But like

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Speaker 1: grocery prices have gone up thirteen percent this year, gas

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Speaker 1: prices have gone up eighteen percent, rent has increased seven percent.

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Speaker 1: Health insurance is up and these are the biggest increases

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Speaker 1: in a single year in like the past fifty years,

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Speaker 1: and so it's historic what we're witnessing. And I think

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Speaker 1: because it's such a personal problem for so many people,

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Speaker 1: and people have shame around money and that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 1: it just hasn't been uplifted to the kind of crisis

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Speaker 1: that it actually is. And Republicans are running away with

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Speaker 1: the message even though they have zero solutions to address

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Speaker 1: people's concerns. Well, that's something I think a lot about, right,

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Speaker 1: because we have Republicans are like, we're good on crime

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Speaker 1: and we're good on the economy. And it's like, I

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Speaker 1: want to point out, like we elected in New York.

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Speaker 1: We all live in New York. Here, we elected this

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Speaker 1: mayor who was basically a Republican who was like, I

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Speaker 1: am a cop. I was a cop, right and a promoter,

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Speaker 1: and I sleep on a mattress and I live in

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. But again, but he was like, I'm a

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Speaker 1: cop and I'm going to stop crime. Okay, you're a cop, alright,

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Speaker 1: we elected you. When does he stop crime. I live

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Speaker 1: in a neighborhood, you know, a black, working class, black

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Speaker 1: immigrant neighborhood where Eric Adams did very very well. He

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Speaker 1: has an appeal to working class voters of color that

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Speaker 1: I think liberals and progressive shouldn't underestimate. Look, politics is

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Speaker 1: not what we would like it to be. It is

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Speaker 1: often really terrible. And like the local media coverage in

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Speaker 1: New York City, whether you're reading the New York Post

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Speaker 1: or the New York Daily News on the subway, or

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00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: you're watching local news or you're just looking at Facebook,

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Speaker 1: it's all these kinds of crazy stories about how you

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Speaker 1: will be murdered tomorrow. I think sometimes Democrats and progressive

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Speaker 1: and liberals just like laugh at that, but also think

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Speaker 1: that is like the reality of the media that people

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Speaker 1: are consuming. And I think that there are progressive in

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Speaker 1: liberal arguments to be made on crime that go beyond

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Speaker 1: we fund the cops, because I see a lot of

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Speaker 1: Democratic ads this year that are like, we will fund

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Speaker 1: the police, and I understand why people are doing that,

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Speaker 1: but that is the exact message that Republicans are using,

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Speaker 1: and they will always outfund the police more than you.

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Speaker 1: And so I would love to see democratic messages that like,

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Speaker 1: we also think crime is a problem. We want to

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Speaker 1: reduce crime. That's why we support affordable housing. That's why

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Speaker 1: we support behavioral mental health treatment programs that have been

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Speaker 1: you know, there's evidence that shows that those programs are

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Speaker 1: significant in reducing crime, and I don't know. I just

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Speaker 1: think that there could be more effective messages on some

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Speaker 1: of these things that I haven't I haven't really seen

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Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I want to ask you about that.

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Speaker 1: Like there was some messaging with this Inflation Reduction Act, right,

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Speaker 1: like the ideas if you're not paying two or three

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Speaker 1: dollars a month for insulind but you are paying thirty

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Speaker 1: five dollars a month for insulin, that should write drug

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Speaker 1: prices being cheaper will theoretically lower the effects of inflation

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Speaker 1: on your lifestyle. Definitely. I mean that is one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest things that Joe Biden has done. Canceling student

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Speaker 1: debt puts money back in people's pockets. There are significant

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Speaker 1: things that he was able to accomplish. But if Democrats

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Speaker 1: lose the House on Tuesday, like the number one person

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Speaker 1: they're gonna blame is Alexander kazy Cortez on Wednesday morning,

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Speaker 1: the person who's most to blame on Wednesday is you know,

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Speaker 1: Joe Manchion, Kirsten Cinema, Josh Gottheimer, who could have made

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Speaker 1: the Inflation Reduction Act way more expansive on reducing childcare costs,

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Speaker 1: on expanding Medicare to include hearing aids on paige family

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Speaker 1: and sick leave. Like, I think things that people would

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Speaker 1: have really the concrete material things that people would have

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Speaker 1: been able to point to as having addressed some of

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Speaker 1: the pressure that people are in. But I think it's very,

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Speaker 1: very historically those three figures I think will go down

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Speaker 1: as like, yeah, we'll just be infamous because there was

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Speaker 1: a real moment where they could have delivered sweeping change,

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Speaker 1: and I think they they really hamstrung the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: from being able to present the American people with a

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Speaker 1: huge program that they were able to deliver at a

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Speaker 1: time of crisis. You never want to be the person

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Speaker 1: that black Masters is celebrating and black Masters declaring his

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Speaker 1: love for kirston cinema. I didn't see that he did

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Speaker 1: yes in the Daily Mail. Perhaps you've you may have

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Speaker 1: missed the Daily Mail's political coverage, but he's like the

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Speaker 1: Liz Cheney for the Republican parm right. She's look Liz Cheney.

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Speaker 1: That's a really good point. I just want to get

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Speaker 1: back to this idea of like some of the problem

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Speaker 1: with messaging against Republicans is that Republicans are not bound

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Speaker 1: by the truth. And this is becoming more and more true, right.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you watch a Republican ad, you um

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Speaker 1: will think that trans people, immigrants, Black Lives Matter are

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Speaker 1: running the country at federal, state, and local off you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is factually true. But and then yeah,

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Speaker 1: all the stuff that's been happening with Elon Musk this

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Speaker 1: week on fact checking very just President Biden's tweets. It's

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Speaker 1: incredibly dangerous and scary to think about, how, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest ways that people get news in

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Speaker 1: this country or in that you know, lots of journalists

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Speaker 1: and political people are on like that. The owner of

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Speaker 1: Twitter is just going out of his way to fact

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Speaker 1: check only what only the Democrats Like. I'm like Marjorie

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Speaker 1: Taylor Green every day is tweeting factually inaccurate statements who

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Speaker 1: it never gets a fact check. Like just yesterday she

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Speaker 1: was like, Mexicans are coming over the border and bringing

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Speaker 1: in fentinel and Joe Biden is doing nothing about it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, almost every word in that sentence is

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Speaker 1: and is factually inaccurate, but there's no fact check being given.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it is it is scary. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I do think that is a real worry. And and

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Speaker 1: I mean also there's like a fundamental problem with billionaires

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Speaker 1: owning our media, right, I mean, and then this is

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Speaker 1: just another app worth of that. Yeah. I know, we

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about these um Stephen Miller ads that

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Speaker 1: came out this week, like yeah, yeah, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the Stephen Miller related to factually inaccurate. But it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I keep getting text messages from people all over, like

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco and Georgia and New York, in Chicago

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Speaker 1: who are getting these ads from Stephen Miller where whether

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Speaker 1: it's TV, whether it's on Hulu, whether it's on in

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Speaker 1: Mailer's where the ad is basically saying that Democrats, whether

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Speaker 1: it's in pandemic relief programs or whether it's employment programs,

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Speaker 1: or whether it's social media, that Democrats are racist against

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Speaker 1: white people. The ad has a really big sign that

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Speaker 1: says whites and sometimes it says whites and Asians need

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Speaker 1: not not apply. And this is a tax deductible organization,

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Speaker 1: so whoever is funding them got a tax right off.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so sinister and kind of ingenious of

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Speaker 1: Stephen Miller to do this, which is like the logical

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Speaker 1: outcome of where all of the republic, all the Trump

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Speaker 1: messaging was gonna go, which is us to explicitly state

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Speaker 1: that the Democrats are against white people. You know, they've

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Speaker 1: been dog whistling at it for decades, but now they're

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Speaker 1: just Stephen Millers like, let's just go, let's just go

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Speaker 1: for what, go for the real thing, right. I Mean

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Speaker 1: That's the thing that I think is like kind of crazy,

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Speaker 1: is that we are in a situation now where like

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Speaker 1: that is full on white supremacist talk. Right. Chris Hayes

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Speaker 1: tweeted something where he was like, there is no difference

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Speaker 1: between what David Duke says and what Steven Miller says

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00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: at the spot. There's no and there hasn't been for

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Speaker 1: a long time. I mean, Stephen Miller is basically I mean,

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Speaker 1: he gets a lot of his ideas from, you know,

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Speaker 1: all of this white nationalist stuff, and you know, his

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Speaker 1: the only thing he has going for him that gives

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Speaker 1: people pause that he might not be a white nationalist

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Speaker 1: is that he's Jewish, right, because generally, as a Jew myself,

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Speaker 1: I would say that, like, these are not the people

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Speaker 1: you want to go with, you know, if you have

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Speaker 1: a choice, these are not our people, man, So I

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Speaker 1: just I'm curious, like, how are those those running with

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Speaker 1: a tax deduction? So it's being run by this is

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Speaker 1: an American first legal there five one C three nonprofit organizations,

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Speaker 1: so that five one three basically means that if you

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Speaker 1: donate to the organization, you can write it off with

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Speaker 1: a tax deduction, which is like insane. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: mean again, I know that it's watching Ted Cruz deep

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Speaker 1: fund the i R s like that's the favorite rallying

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Speaker 1: call of conservatives now, but isn't that an important issue.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a lawyer. I don't know what the laws

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Speaker 1: are on free speech and and what you can say

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Speaker 1: in an ad or not, but it's definitely concerning. I

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Speaker 1: think it's It's one of those things where and this

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Speaker 1: is the struggle with Democrats generally is like if the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party is increasingly just going to say that the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party is codd laying you know, is the Democratic

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Speaker 1: Party fights for undeserving people of color and are being

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Speaker 1: coddled by liberal elites and they're against white people. And

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Speaker 1: now asia that the Democrats like they need a better

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Speaker 1: message than just saying that ad is racist, and that's

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Speaker 1: what a lot of people were saying once I posted

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Speaker 1: the ad. That I I saw was like, this ad

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Speaker 1: is so racist, and I'm like, yes, but I also

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Speaker 1: think this ad is effective. I think if you're just like,

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Speaker 1: if you're just receiving this at your house, you're like, yeah, like,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe I feel discriminated against in uh in some

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Speaker 1: way and I think that or I feel left out. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think Democrats need to get way better at saying

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Speaker 1: something basically along the lines of like, the Republican Party

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Speaker 1: is doing everything they can to make you think that

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Speaker 1: they are fighting for you, when when as soon as

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Speaker 1: they get power, they're gonna cut your soul security, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna cut your Medicare, they're gonna cut your Medicaid, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna give tax breaks to their corporate donors. And

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Speaker 1: all this race stuff is just a trick for you

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Speaker 1: to think that they're fighting for you because of your

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Speaker 1: skin color, when it's just deployed they're gonna swindle you.

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Speaker 1: And I haven't seen Democrats really make that case so

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Speaker 1: explicitly that all this stuff we hear during elections. Sason

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Speaker 1: in the last two months about the election, when about

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Speaker 1: Black lives matter, about crime, about trans kids, about you know,

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Speaker 1: all the things they waive in the last two months

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Speaker 1: of the election like that. It's all just a strategy

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Speaker 1: for them to distract from their economic agenda, which is

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00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: to you know, allow their corporate donors to jacob prices

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Speaker 1: as high as they want and essentially lute working people

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Speaker 1: across the country. Thank you so much, Wilde, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for having me. Jesse Cannon, Molly John Fast.

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Speaker 1: We've hit our segment a moment of funckeray, and today

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Speaker 1: for our moment of fuckery. We have media fuckery, which

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Speaker 1: is its own kind of Fuckeray. Should that be muckery muckery?

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Speaker 1: It should be muckery. We have muckery fuckery, which is

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Speaker 1: media fuckery. And I want to talk about Biden gave

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Speaker 1: a speech the journalists from NPR was like another speech.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's democracy, the death of democracy. It might

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Speaker 1: merit more than one speech. He gave a speech at

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Speaker 1: Union station in Washington, d C. It was a speech

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Speaker 1: that is like, honestly, what I say when I'm interviewed

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Speaker 1: by European television stations, which seems to happen weirdly a

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Speaker 1: And there are certainly a few races like that Arizona

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Speaker 1: found that upsetting. I can't imagine why, and so he

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Speaker 1: vote to keep democracy going. This should not be a

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Speaker 1: and so the side to fascism is in my mind,

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Speaker 1: a bad choice. So but instead there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of two sides of this. I don't know who suggested

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Speaker 1: a terrible idea. Don't you think most of these people

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Speaker 1: I don't understand, what is there not a Starbucks in there?

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Speaker 1: it inflation and the economy. Democracy is clearly where what

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Speaker 1: topics that are proving difficult for Democrats. So a lot

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Speaker 1: Another tweet terrible optics from the White House. Why isn't

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Speaker 1: have to remember that this presidential White House is extremely

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Speaker 1: worried about the Hatch Act. Before the Trump administration, the

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Speaker 1: Hatch Act used to mean something. So for that, uh,

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Speaker 1: the mockery fuckery gets a hearty fuck you from this

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