1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Thank advantage on the day. A right when you get 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: opportunity in this game, they can play. Oh Michael, don't 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: do one touchdown? Kansas City. The Chiefs all right in 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: the thick of it, Baby, you wanted it. You've been 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: clamoring for it. You've reached out on social media, You've 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: come up in casual conversations the question, when's Defending the 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: Kingdom coming back? Are you going to bring back DTK? 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: It's back, like the Chiefs are back here in Saint Joe. 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: Mitch Holt us with you along with Matt McMullan. But 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: this will be fun. But hey, officially, defending the Kingdom 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: is back, so I spread the word. Yeah, I'm glad 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: to be here, Mitch. Obviously love listening to your podcast 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: and got to join you a few times last year. 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: I'll join you us some more this year. But yeah, 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: I'm just talking some Chiefs football. This is the time 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: of year that we live for, right it said. The 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: pads are on out here at practice at training camp. 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: The team's getting ready for the twenty twenty one season, 19 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: and let's talk some football. Just so you don't flip out, 20 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: because you know, I've heard from everybody around the world. 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: People you know, have armed services of folks that are 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: around listening to us. We got people as a jog 23 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: to it. They're on treadmills and they go, you didn't 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: mention Patrick Mahomes once, So let's just do right out 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: of the gate. Patrick Mahomes. There, you're good. Okay, it's 26 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: still pretty good. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes. But this episode we're 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna call why Patrick is happy? Yeah, Why Patrick Mahomes 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: is happy? And it starts with the offensive line, which 29 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: has been the most talked about thinking for the Chiefs 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: really since March. But we've seen it here in camp, 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: this offensive line. And if folks come back and find 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: our live stream that we did a weekend ago, I 33 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: said something old, something new, something borrowed, something red. But 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: that's the way this offensive line has been put together. 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: But it's been fun to watch it. By the day, 36 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: be something now instead of a weakness, be a strength. 37 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: So one of the storylines of the offseason right was 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs rebuilt offensive line, and it's been really fun 39 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: to watch, Like you said, ten new players in the 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: offensive line room coming into this season that we're not 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: with the organization land years. That includes returning opt outs, 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: guys like Lucas Kneeing, Laurent Dubern a tardif. But really 43 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: the blend of veteran experience in youth along this offensive 44 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: line is super exciting. So you have the youth and 45 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: guys like Tray Smith, who will talk about has looked 46 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: really good out here, could be to steal the draft. 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey in the second round at center, and like 48 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: Lucas Kneeing, also a young player, this is basically his 49 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: rookie season, but also veteran players in this room. So 50 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown Junior, he's a veteran now in this league, 51 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: been in the league three years. He trade for him, 52 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: plug him in at left tackle, He's a veteran. Bring 53 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: Mike Reremer's back, a veteran in this league. Austin Blythe 54 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: has been around for quite a while. And really the 55 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: thing is with this group, the two defining characteristics are 56 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: versatility and durability. These guys do not miss games. They've 57 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: all been very impressive throughout their careers in terms of 58 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: being available. That's the best ability you can have, right 59 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: it's being available. These guys have been durable throughout their 60 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: careers and also versatile guys who can play multiple positions. 61 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: Guards that can play center and vice versa, Tackles who 62 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: can play guard. You can have a guy play right 63 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: tackle or left tackle. That versatility is truly invaluable because 64 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: you get to a situation across the course of a 65 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: long season when guys are going to get hurt. You 66 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen at some point, you want 67 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: to be able to plug guys in there who could 68 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: be starters elsewhere, and we've seen that throughout this rebuilding. 69 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: Let me add one other attribute that I've seen, we've 70 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: both seen out here, and that's attitude. Yeah, meaning the 71 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: best offensive lines in this league over time are those 72 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: that bring that edge to the line of scrimmage. And honestly, 73 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: Trey Smith has been the leader there. You'd think a rookie, 74 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: but I've seen it be contagious now. You know, even 75 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: mild mannered and technician Joe Tune, He's got a little 76 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: something to him. But it's been fun to see that. 77 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: And why is Patrick Mahomes happy He's got an offensive 78 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: line now with a little bit of attitude. I think 79 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: Kyle Long kind of instilled that as well, because I 80 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: know Kyle hasn't been practicing here at training camp. He's 81 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: recovering from the injury he's sustained in OTAs. But from 82 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: day one that Kyle Long got here, he seemed to 83 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: bring an edge to that room, and that kind of 84 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: thing is contagious. And yeah, Tray Smith, oh my god, 85 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: what can you say about this guy? The energy that 86 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: he's shown every single day out of practice. He looks 87 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: like he's a veteran, which is just super exciting. You 88 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: don't see that kind of thing from rookie players coming in, 89 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: particularly six round picks. But he doesn't look like a 90 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: sixth round pick. He looks like a first round pick 91 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: with not just his talent, but the way he carries himself. 92 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: And he doesn't just go out there and rely on 93 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: his athleticism. He has a plan when he's out there, 94 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: and he seems to have a mindset of a player 95 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: that's been playing a lot longer than he has, which 96 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: is certainly exciting when you're talking about a sixth round 97 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: draft pick. Once again, could be the steal of the draft. 98 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: That's what guys like Brett Fitch get paid to do. 99 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: It's not just the first round picks, it's finding guys 100 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: like Tray Smith, latee who other teams have passed on. 101 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: But we see something in this guy and we're seeing 102 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: it now. Out of camp. You had to play the 103 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: football game with the neighbor kids in the backyard, right, 104 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: You had to do this course, Yeah, still do so 105 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: anytime I got to do it would be give him 106 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: from the farm into town. It was kind of a 107 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: big deal. But a couple of things here. I've always said, 108 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is the inner ten year old that says, hey, guys, 109 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: come over to the house, we'll get a game up. 110 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: That's him. That's the way he is. That's why he 111 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: approaches every day. But why is Patrick Mahomes happy? And 112 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: remember the old rule, Hey, no pass rush unless it's 113 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: one Mississippi to Mississippi. This offensive line now for Patrick 114 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: is giving him potentially one Mississippi to Mississippi and he 115 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: just he only needs to miss okay, and good things 116 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: can happen. Well, i mean, think about what he can 117 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: do on the run. When you know what he can 118 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: do on the run, he's the most exciting quarterback in 119 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: football outside of the pocket when the play breaks down. 120 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: But the guy has all the tools and we've seen 121 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: it when he has time that he's unstoppable, and if 122 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: he has an opportunity to truly scan the field and 123 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: see give his receivers guys like Tyreek Hill, Mcole Hartman, 124 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey opportunities to get open. If you give them 125 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: four or five seconds, I mean, it's game over. Patrick 126 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: Mahomes is going to find those guys down field. So 127 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: when you have the blend that Patrick Mahomes has of 128 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: being able to do that, he can be that quarterback 129 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: that stands out there, scans the field and finds his 130 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: open man. Or when the play breaks down, he can 131 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: make magic happen outside the pocket like we saw today 132 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: out of practice where he rolled to his left, stopped 133 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: on a dime, and fired a rocket to d Rob 134 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. If you can do both of those things, 135 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: I mean, how can a defense stop you? And that's 136 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: really the idea behind this offensive line rebuild. There's gonna 137 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: be times that defenses get to Patrick and he has 138 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: to make things happen with his legs, but more often 139 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: than not, if he's all to sit back there and 140 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: dissect a defense, I mean, I truly don't know how 141 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: you can stop them. Another reason why Patrick Mahomes is 142 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: happy is I know he's watched video and he was 143 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: here with Alex Smith for a year in twenty seventeen apprenticing. 144 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: But he goes, hey, how about some of those plays 145 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: that Alex got to run back in thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, 146 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: and sixteen. They're back in action now because of the 147 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: additions made at tight end. One is a renaissance and 148 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: bringing back Blake Bell after his one year's stint with 149 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. We know Travis Kelsey has no equal in 150 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: the National Football League. And if you want to get 151 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: an argument about George Kelly, we can just go right 152 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: down the line. You and I would state this, we'd 153 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: have our case laid out empirically. You cannot compare Kelsey 154 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: to anybody with what he's done. But then you add 155 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: Noah Gray, because fans are going, who's this Noah Gray? 156 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: The pick out of Duke not a high round pick, 157 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: but just those guys blended together has opened up what 158 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: looks to me some of the plays that Coach Reid 159 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: had in twenty thirteen fourteen against Miami when they the 160 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Dolphins didn't figure it out that in the screen game, 161 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: with not just the offensive line, but with these tight ends. 162 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: We know about Tyreek Hill, right, we know about Clyde 163 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: Edward Hilaire, we know about Kelsey, but now there's help. 164 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: And I've clamored for getting help for Kelsey for a 165 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: long time. Three thousand, three hundred and eighty snaps in 166 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: three years. I keep popping at stat out there, but 167 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: you can't ignore it. But what's exciting to me is 168 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: you're bringing all eight years of Andy Reid's offense with 169 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: the Chiefs into this ninth season. And what it boils 170 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: down to is creating mismatches defensively. And if you are 171 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: able to field multiple tight ends on the field at 172 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: the same time, it makes the defensive coordinator think, what 173 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: do I do here? Do I put more dbs on 174 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: the field, more linebackers? How do I cover these guys? 175 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: Do I cover them with the safety? And first of all, 176 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: you're right about Travis Kelsey. He's not just the best 177 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: tight end in the NFL right now. He's one of 178 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: the best pass catchers in the NFL right now and 179 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: one of already one of the greatest tight ends in 180 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: NFL history. The numbers tell us that, I mean five 181 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: straight thousand yard seasons. No tight end in NFL history 182 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 1: has ever had five thousand yard seasons and Travis Kelsey 183 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: did him all in a row. I mean it's crazy. 184 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: Last year fourteen hundred receiving yards for him, most ever 185 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: by a tight end in a single season. So he 186 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: is the best tight end in football. Defenses are staying 187 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: up late at night trying to figure out how to 188 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: stop him. And if you put Noah Gray now in 189 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: this mix, who has nobody can be Travis Kelsey, but 190 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: who has a similar skill set where you can have 191 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: him run underneath routes like he did at Duke and 192 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: where he was targeted one hundred and seven times and 193 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: dropped just three catchable targets. He's a vacuum at tight end. 194 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: He's capable of doing that kind of thing where he 195 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: had over two hundred snaps in the slot last year 196 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: at Duke alone. He can also line up in line 197 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: and as a blocker and in the backfield, so he 198 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: can do all different kinds of things for you. But 199 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: if you can put him as a receiver, you can 200 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: have Blake Bell, who is the top pass blocking tight 201 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: end in all of football last year for the Cowboys 202 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: and knows the system already and can chip in some 203 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: receptions when he's called upon as well. All of a sudden, 204 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: it creates issues where Tyree Kill all of a sudden 205 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: is on an island when you have three tight ends, 206 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: two tight ends out there on the Chiefs off and 207 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: the numbers tell us us if you look at what 208 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: they did last year, the Chiefs ran two tight end 209 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: sets ten percent less than they did in twenty nineteen. Well, 210 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, if you have all these athletes 211 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: at the tight end position, it's going to create problems 212 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: for defenses. And we know what Tyreek Hill and Nicole Hartman, 213 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Robinson, these guys who have great speed, what they 214 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: can do, and it's only going to open up things 215 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: for them if all of a sudden, defenses have another 216 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: thing to worry about. With Noah Gray, Blake Bell, maybe 217 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: Jody Fortson, we'll see what he can do in the 218 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: preseason as well, an athlete at the tight end position. 219 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: But very exciting thoughts here when you're thinking about how 220 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: this offense can get even better. It's adding athletes at 221 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: positions where you typically don't have great athletes. It's also 222 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: countermeasure to what the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes has seen. 223 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: Why's Patrick Mahomes happy because of this, and it's a 224 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: countermeasure to those safeties that the opponents are setting back 225 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: at twenty five yards to start and back peddling to 226 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: like thirty yards. I've talked to Patrick hering Camp in 227 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: private conversations about it. Just a couple of minutes we chat. 228 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: I am I seeing what he goes? Oh, yeah, he goes. 229 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: You're seeing it and the fa that Now, honestly, when 230 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: the Chiefs break camp here, they will have something north 231 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: of seven hundred plays. I would just vow any other team, 232 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: all the thirty one teams, how many you got, and 233 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: they will have something between seven hundred and seven fifty 234 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: for plays to this season. But that also includes plays 235 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: when you go back into the file of plays that 236 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: we're in twenty thirteen, fourteen, fifteen sixteen. That can be 237 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: very effective because even if you go to a three 238 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: tight end set, you're going, wow, they're running the ball. 239 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: Well wait a minute. All three of those tight ends 240 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: can run routes as we've mentioned here, and Tyreek Hill 241 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: is still on the field and Clyde Edwards Hilaire is 242 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: still on the field, So it's something for the fans 243 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: to watch. What's interesting too, you know, Dan and Hughes 244 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: was last year was his first year on the Chiefs 245 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: Radio network as the analyst, and I really enjoyed it. 246 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: What it enjoys being in front of two fifty five 247 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: inch monitors in the broadcast suite for every game but 248 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty five. That was not preferred, But I 249 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: get it. I'm not going to complain because people went 250 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: through much more. But I thought it was a rough 251 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: way to have your rookie year. Danen is like he 252 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: was when he played, like he's just steady, give me, 253 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: what's my job, and he stayed in the league eight 254 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: years because of that. But I thought last year he 255 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: did a phenomenal job as the analyst, and we're gonna 256 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: hear from him in a second, but I'm anxious for 257 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: him to actually get on the road and in the 258 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: venue to be an analyst because he brings some football perspectives. Well, 259 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: I think both of you guys did a tremendous job, 260 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: and your entire team did a tremendous job. I don't 261 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: know if people realize how difficult it is to do 262 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: a professional broadcast when you were not actually there, when 263 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: you're just watching it on TV on the eight monitors 264 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: or whatever you had. It's crazy. And what's funny is 265 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: people would ask me all the time, Mitch is at 266 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: the game, right, I'm like, no, he's not there, he's 267 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: not traveling. They're like, it sounds like he's there. So 268 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: that's a testament to you guys that you guys made 269 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: fans feel like they were there even when you guys 270 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 1: weren't in too. Dan Israel, the executive producer who technically 271 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: made that sound like we were there. There was the 272 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: one anxious moment though, in the Charger game Week two, 273 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: Bucker's lining up for the winning field goal and toning Barso, 274 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: so I'm looking at my iPad like I'm gonna have 275 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: to make this up because I can't see it. I'm 276 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: have to be like the old twenties baseball, like Ronald 277 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: Reagan's reading enough to tick her. But let's hope that's 278 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: not the case this year. But I did have a 279 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: chance to talk with my broadcast partner on the Chiefs 280 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: Radio Network, Dan and Hughes. He talked about this offense 281 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: and also talks about how this regime of Andy Reid 282 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: respects the past and the president. We pivot just a 283 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: bit on this edition of Defending the Kingdom as I 284 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: am joined now by my colleague on the Chiefs Radio Network, 285 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: longtime Kansas City chief. You know him as an Iowa 286 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: Hawkeye star, a Chief star, and now a media star. 287 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: But Dan and Hughes. But it's awesome to see again 288 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: and can't wait to get this twenty twenty one season starting. 289 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: The band will be back together. This is like the 290 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: opening day of a tour, Like what tour that we're 291 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: gonna have around the country. Yeah, I'm excited. It's gonna 292 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: be fun. T shirts have already been made. You can 293 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: get your t shirts at high V and look at 294 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: all the tour dates. But honestly, just and you had 295 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: your rookie season, Yes, but it was so strange. I mean, 296 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: we're in front of two fifty five inch monitors doing 297 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: those games other than Super Bowl fifty five, and it 298 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: was just there was nothing like it. And I'm not 299 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: exactly excited to go back to it if i have to. Yeah, 300 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad we don't have to go back to it, 301 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: and cross our fingers that we don't have to go 302 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: back to any semblance of it. But it was exciting 303 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: rookie year for me. I'm fortunately you guys didn't make 304 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: me stand up on the table and sing my fight song, 305 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: although the Iowa fight song is a good one to sing. 306 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was great. It was exciting. It was 307 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: a dream come true. I mean the fact that you 308 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: were a guy that was calling plays when I was 309 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: playing in touchdowns and tackles and special teams, craziness that 310 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: I was going through and you were in the booth 311 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: and now I get to sit next to you and 312 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: call some magical football that we have here in Kansity. Now, 313 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: it was just an amazing year, surreal to some extent, 314 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: especially with all the OVID protocols, and I'm looking forward 315 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: to getting back to some normalcy whatever that will be. 316 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: I'll sing it for you. You've got to fight, fight, fight. 317 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: Here we go. Let me started. You love football at 318 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: all levels. You love to absorb it, study it. You 319 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: played it. But what we're seeing with this Kansas City 320 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Chiefs football team is fascinating, and you and I watch practice. 321 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: It's easy to take it for granted. Coach talks about 322 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: it all the time. He says, when you see somebody 323 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: do it's like watching the Olympics. You see somebody to 324 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: do something of excellence and it's done on a regular basis, 325 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: you start to take it for granted. What are you 326 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: seeing from this team that would be easy for any 327 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: of us to take for granted. I think there's just 328 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: special football. And I always say I see the game differently. 329 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't see it better than any fan. I don't 330 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: say that, you know, I am a kind of saur 331 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: of football or what have you, But I see the 332 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: game differently. And when you're watching some of the amazing 333 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: antics and special talents that are out on the field, 334 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: throws that are made, catches that are made ut you 335 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: and I would dissecting why you would run a route 336 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: and how you would run a route this way. Those 337 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: are the nuances that not every fan knows. They don't 338 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: you know. They're looking at was he open or was 339 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: he not open? While you and I we're breaking down 340 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: why he was open and how he got open. And 341 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: there's so much talent, so much athleticism on the field, 342 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: and let's face it, when you go against the same 343 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: guy every day, they get to know your mannerisms, they 344 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: get to know your movements, and you're still seeing success. 345 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: So to answer your question, why I think we shouldn't 346 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: take this for granted, because we see some really nice plays, 347 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: we see some big plays, we see some extra efforts, 348 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: and they're going against guys that know about all their 349 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: moves and techniques and habits and so on. So if 350 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: you can get it done out here, imagine how well 351 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: this team can be focused and ready to get things 352 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,119 Speaker 1: done on Arrowhead field or on the road against other opponents. 353 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: You played receiver in the league. It was interesting. We 354 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: had Kurt Warner on earlier on one of our live 355 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: streams from camp and we were talking about and Matt 356 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: was asking him about what guy, there you go again 357 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: Northern Iowa. Though I want to sing that fight song 358 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: but know that one too. But the way that when 359 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: Kurt had the rams, they changed the game one oh 360 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: two or three. But it seems like the Chiefs are 361 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: changing the game too. We think of football is a 362 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: game of physics, but I want to ask you about 363 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: how any Reid mix this a game of geometry. Yeah, 364 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: and think of the field as you know, we're looking 365 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: at a quadrangle or whatever. But how he uses the 366 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: geometry of the game in the route concepts and what 367 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: you see from him that's unique and why guys get 368 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: open and why this offense has been so good freak 369 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: consistent basis. Well, it's interesting as you say the geometry, 370 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: because well, first thing that comes to my mind as 371 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: a sports person is the triangle offense. And you talk 372 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: about the Bulls and how they were able to manipulate 373 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: an offense that isolated Michael Jordan at specific times and 374 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: isolated Scottie Pippen and Kobe Bryant at specific times, or 375 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: took advantage of big shack in the middle with the Lakers. 376 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: That's what we're seeing the basketball version on an NFL field. 377 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: With the way Andy Reid and Eric b Enemy construct 378 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: this offense. You're seeing mismatches and you're seeing situations where 379 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: like I can visualize a safety saying, oh, like, how 380 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: did I get back here? I'm just backpedaling and I 381 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: got Tyreek Hill, and I got Travis Kelsey, and I 382 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: got these guys coming from different angles, and I don't 383 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: know which way I should go. We saw the first 384 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: play with McCole Hardman running a deep crossing route a 385 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: half roll by Patrick Mahomes and threw it back across 386 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: the field. What's safety in this NFL is going to 387 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: be able to stop that? So I think what we 388 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: see is energy from this team because from a player's perspective, 389 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: like every single day I wake up to come out 390 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: on the field, I know that my offensive coordinator and 391 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: head coach are putting something together that's absolutely going to 392 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: make me successful and I'm gonna have fun. It's like 393 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: it's like a party every single day. So those are 394 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: the things and the nuances I see from a player's 395 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: perspective that you know what, it's just exciting. Training camp 396 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: can be a grind, but what you're seeing from the 397 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: players out here is just excitement. And you speak such wisdom. 398 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: It makes me think of what coaches told me in 399 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: the past of how the geometry goes, but how the 400 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: it's a triangle offense in many ways, and sometimes Kelsey's 401 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: the beacon of how you do that. And then too, 402 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: what a veteran wants, what coaches told me over and 403 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: over and he said it publicly too, what a veteran wants. 404 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: Just give me something new to be successful, give me 405 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: something to grab to take so I can beat the 406 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: cat across from me. Just another question, one more final 407 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: question here and thanks for being on with us. We'll 408 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: have you again and again I'm just so fired up 409 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: to be on the radio with you again this season, 410 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: but the Chiefs won the Super Bowl. You're a big 411 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: part of the Ambassador program. You're embedded into the community. 412 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: You're community leader the way that the Hunt family, the 413 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: way Andy Reid has embraced the history of this franchise. 414 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: And I sat there with you fighting back tears from 415 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: the Chiefs of Klan the highest summit that call at 416 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: the end of the game, but across my face yours 417 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: and many of players who played before, and I said, 418 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: I hope they're feeling what I feel. Did you feel that? 419 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: And what about the approach of the organization to all 420 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: of you? I mean, you're wearing a Super Bowl right, yeah, 421 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: so yeah, it was one of the more special times 422 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: of my life, my existence, especially on the sports stage. 423 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: And you've heard me tell you the story. At the 424 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: AFC Championship, we were in a section together the ambassadors. 425 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: You have you have guys part of the ambassador group 426 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: that played for the Dallas Texans and I have spanned 427 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: fifty years plus as far as being tied to this organization, 428 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: and it was silent. There were tears, there were hugs. 429 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: You go to the Super Bowl we're in the same situation. 430 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: We're in the same section in the upper corner away 431 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: from a touchdown run, but we can see it down 432 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: the same sideline. And there were tears. I mean, it 433 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: was the most emotional time that I can remember from 434 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: playing to this time. And then when they granted us 435 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: the rings, these rings, like we had a zoom call 436 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: because of COVID, and it was the quietest zoom. It 437 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: was like we were in a library. When they announced it, 438 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: it was like like some people shut off their video. 439 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: Some people just turned their head away. It was like 440 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: like for me, I always felt for the fans that 441 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: we didn't get it done with those great nineties teams, 442 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: and it was like elate. I was elated the fact 443 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: that the fans got a taste of greatness with that 444 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl win. And then they were gracious enough, the 445 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: Hunt family was gracious enough to say, we acknowledge you, ambassadors, 446 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: what you still do for this organization, in the community, etc. 447 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: And we're gonna give you this gift. And I was 448 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: beside myself for about two months. I couldn't believe it. 449 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: I wear it with pride. I always say, Mitch, the 450 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 1: best coaches are the best brainwashers and Marty Schnheimer and 451 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: the Hunt family. They brainwashed us in a great way 452 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: to still stay connected with this community. So I'm proud 453 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: to wear this ring. I'm proud to be a part 454 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: of this group, proud to be a part of the 455 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: broadcast with you, and proud to be able to witness 456 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: greatness on the field. I'm with you all the way 457 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: and again proud to be connected with you. Looking forward 458 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: to attacking twenty one season. Thanks for being with us 459 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: on this first edition of the new season of Defending 460 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: the Kingdom. Danen's perspective on what that Super Bowl championship 461 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: meant the Hunt family and coach read they all got rings, 462 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: and the fact that I love it that Coach Reid 463 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: respects the past, but that the Hunt family wanted everybody 464 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: that has been a part of this franchise that played 465 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: for this team to feel like they were champions on 466 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: that day. So I grew up in Kansas City, I 467 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: grew up a Chiefs fan, and when we won the 468 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, the first things I was thinking about was 469 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: the teams that I grew up watching, guys like Trent Green, 470 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: Priest Holmes, Dante Hall, those guys. That's what I thought 471 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: about just as a fan and how it was a 472 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: culmination of decades of Chiefs football to get to that moment. 473 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: And what I love about this team and this community 474 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: and this fan base and Chiefs Kingdom is that everyone 475 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: gets that and everyone feels that way. It's not just 476 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: an NFL team in town, go to the game, enjoy it, 477 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: go home. It's really part of the fabric of the community. 478 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: And we say those things, but it really is real 479 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: because I grew up feeling that I know all my friends, 480 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: my family grew up feeling that I know you feel that. 481 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: So the fact that we recognize and honor those guys 482 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: and that they in turn feel a part of it 483 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: still is just super special. Yeah, I love it. Now 484 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: another reason this edition and we're back defending the Kingdom, 485 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: back on the track and we're running here. But this 486 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: edition we're calling why is Patrick Mahomes happy? And it's 487 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: not just about the offense. It's also about the defense 488 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: because Patrick has noticed, along with all of us, that 489 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: he may get some more possessions, there might be some 490 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: three and outs. Get the enemy off the field and 491 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: get the ball back in Patrick's hands. Because the excitement 492 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: over the rookie class that we've talked about on offense, 493 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm sensing that same excitement and seeing it on the 494 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: field of the second year defenders. And there's four guys 495 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: now in this category. Let's talk about him. Willie Gay Jr. 496 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: He's been in the concussion protocol the last couple of days, 497 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: but wow, looks like he's taken two jumps up. Yes, 498 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: Lagaria Sneed might be the best slot corner in this 499 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: league at the end of the year. Mike Dana has 500 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: been outstanding, and then Tershaun Wharton last year kind of 501 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: a you know, an anomaly or all that's cute. He's 502 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: at a Missouri SNT this year. He looks like a force. 503 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: So I think one thing that those guys don't get 504 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: enough credit for is how difficult it was to go 505 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: into the rookie season with no in person OTAs, no 506 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: in person mini camp, no rookie mini caamp to get 507 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: their feet under him. They just came into training camp 508 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: after weeks of looking at their iPad, trying to learn 509 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: the playbook, trying to talk to their coaches, and on 510 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: top of that, training camp is at the team facility 511 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: with no fans, no energy. He just didn't really feel 512 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: like a normal rookie year, you know, and those guys 513 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: did their best, and to their credit, guys like Lagaria Sneed, 514 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: I mean, are you kidding? He was the top rookie 515 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: corner and all of football last year based on a 516 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: number of metrics, made lots of all rookie teams. The 517 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: guy was a stud and it's going to be even 518 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: better this year. And tre Shaun Wharton, you get him 519 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: out of Missouri S and T. Pro Football Focus had 520 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: a midseason all rookie team and here it was the 521 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: defensive line. Chase Young first round pick, Derek Brown first 522 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: round pick, Alex Highsmith third round pick, and Treshaun Wharton 523 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: undrafted the ut of Missouri S ANDT. Just crazy stuff. 524 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: So looking forward to more from him as well. Mike 525 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: Dana Flashed and Willie Gay Junior. Think about the Atlanta 526 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: Falcons game. How good he was in that one when 527 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: he really had an opportunity. He goes out there, has 528 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: no mistackles, ten defensive stops. He was a stud. Here's 529 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: the thing. Willie Gay told us that until late in 530 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: the year he didn't feel totally comfortable in the defense 531 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: and in the scheme, just because they didn't have that 532 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: time in the offseason to get ready, and he now 533 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: in all these guys feel this way. They've told us 534 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: they've had a full year and a full in person 535 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: offseason program where they feel totally comfortable and I need 536 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: to go in the scheme and once you have the 537 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: mental part of it down. These guys are great athletes already. 538 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: That's why they were drafted and in Treshawn's case, signed 539 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: after the draft, so they can just let their instincts work. 540 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: And Willie Gay Junior in particular, looks fast, looks really 541 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: good in coverage, and his instincts are awesome. What these 542 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: guys can do now in their second season is going 543 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: to be super exciting to watch because they're not rookies, 544 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: but they've kind of For a lot of these guys, 545 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: this is the first time that they've experienced having all 546 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: of this lead time, so they're kind of like rookies 547 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: with a ton of experience already coming in. So all 548 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: four of those guys looking for big seasons from them. 549 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: It's gonna make Patrick Mahomes very happy throughout the campaign. 550 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: You mentioned when we talked offense in the first fifteen 551 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: minutes or so, the podcast about the versatility required on 552 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: the offensive side. But these four guys have shown they 553 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: are as versatile on defense. The team has been repping 554 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: Treshaun Wharton at different spots. They've done the same thing 555 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: with Mike Dan. I've been really impressed with him. Yeah, 556 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: we know. And what's underrated about Snead as he can 557 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: play outside, inside, he can blitz, he can play against 558 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: the run, he can cover. He made a fantastic interception 559 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 1: here a couple or yesterday, and the same can be 560 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: said when you look at Willie Gay Jr. I mean, 561 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: he's the new fangled linebacker. He's got to cover, he's 562 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: got to play, he's gonna do everything man's own. You 563 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: gotta play the run. But there's versatility with these guys. 564 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: And Steve Spagnolo is as imaginative as Andy Reid is 565 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: on offense he is on defense, and I think he's 566 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: loving that fact. The second fact is, and it's an 567 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: old NFL adage. Yes, there's the first year, but Marty 568 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: Schottenheimer told me even going into my second year, he goes, 569 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: you gotta be twice as good. You're a second year 570 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: to be as good as your first year. And I've 571 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: never forgotten that quote, because everybody knows what you're doing. 572 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: They know when you brush your teeth, they know when 573 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: you go to bed, they know. So these guys, to me, 574 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: have lived to that, these four guys in particular, have 575 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: lived to the fact that they're twice as good as 576 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: they were last year, to be as good as they 577 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: were a year And think about what these guys were 578 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: worrying about back in February of last year. They're just 579 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: trying to get drafted, just trying to land on a team. 580 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 1: And when you have a full year where you're in 581 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: the system, you know what it's like to be a 582 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: professional athlete. You know what's expected of you. It just 583 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: makes it easier when you're coming into OTA's mini camp 584 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: and training camp. You know what's expected of you. You've 585 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: been thinking this way the entire time. You know what 586 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: team you're on. And I liked the Marty Schotenheimer reference 587 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: because it reminds me of what I talked about when 588 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: I talked to Tim Grunhard before he was inducted into 589 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: the or announced that he was going to be in 590 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: the Ring of Honor this year, and he was talking 591 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: about that about how after his rookie year, Marty sat 592 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: him down and said, listen, you had a great year, 593 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: but that's last year. It's all about next year now, 594 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: and and Tim talked about how that really stuck with 595 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: him throughout his career, and it makes me think about 596 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: what Tyron Matthew said a few days ago in context 597 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: of Lagerias Sneed. It's you know, a lot of guys 598 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: come in this league with a ton of potential. You know, 599 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: the potential, the potential, the potential, but it fades away 600 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: eventually you're you're too old to have potential. The best players, 601 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: the great players, are the ones that harness that potential 602 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: and really live up to it. And you have to 603 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: do that right away. That you can't just be in 604 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: this league for a long time and keep saying, well, 605 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, he has potential. These guys show what they 606 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: could do during their rookie year, and now it's about 607 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: taking all of that and just building upon it. These 608 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: guys are vets now, I mean two years into the league, 609 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: you know what you're doing. It's building on that and 610 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: becoming more of a complete player. And the versatility is 611 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: a great point because versatility in today's game, especially on 612 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: defensive paramounts. Yeah, there's volumes in the Library of Congress 613 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 1: that deal with players that were flashes as rookies and 614 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: never done anything after that. Maybe not, but you get 615 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: the idea. But this second year group on defense is 616 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: fun to watch. We're back defending the kingdom. Defending the Kingdom, 617 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna have some fun this year. We'll have different guests. 618 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: One we'll try to keep it lively, and we want 619 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: to hear from you. You can I'm at Mitch Holzas 620 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: on Twitter. You can go to Casey Chiefs under at It, 621 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: Casey Chiefs Underscore, Matt or hit us Up, hit our 622 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: sixty five TPT crew and say, hey, want you go 623 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: to talk about this? What do you think about this? 624 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 1: And uh, we're seeing it, We're listening to you. We 625 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: want to do that. So we just want to make 626 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: their run on the treadmill better. That's that's what we're 627 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: trying to do. And we're out here at practice every 628 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: day and we talk to each other. This is basically 629 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: just filming us talking just normally, because this is all 630 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: we talk about just about every day. We were rooming 631 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: together up here on the dorm is at Missouri Western 632 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: State University and we love to get everyone's feedback and 633 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: just what you guys want to hear us talk about. 634 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: Because we love this team, we love Chiefs football, and 635 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: we're in the middle of it. It's the grind of 636 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: camp right now. So on our episode to get things 637 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: started once again on defending the Kingdom. Why is Patrick 638 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: Mahomes happy? But I know this, Matt, I'll speak for you. 639 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: We are all happy in the Chiefs Kingdom that Patrick 640 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: Mahomes is our quarterback. Touch down and the celebration begins 641 00:29:46,880 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: in their hand. The