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Speaker 1: Podcast starts. Now, what's up everybody, and welcome to Australio Lab.

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Speaker 1: Oh and look who's that? Why? It's George. Hey, George. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting you. Sorry, I'm fully nude. Um. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I was experimenting, of course, with a new intro, to

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Speaker 1: see if it shook anything else. It's crazy you're also

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Speaker 1: fully nude. Oh yeah, we're both fully nude. Because we

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Speaker 1: were talking about this before we started recording. What we're

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Speaker 1: trying to strip away artifice, and that starts, of course,

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Speaker 1: was stripping away clothing. It is is tough because famously

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Speaker 1: you always hate when we match. I can't remember if

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Speaker 1: you're talking about this on air, but at live shows

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Speaker 1: one time you actually made me button my over shirt

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Speaker 1: because yours was unbuttoned and you didn't want both of

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Speaker 1: us to have unbuttoned over shirts. We can't, right, it's

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Speaker 1: too matchy matchy. So I, because I was so worried

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Speaker 1: about us matching, I thought, why not just be fully nude?

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Speaker 1: And then there's no way I would we would match.

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Speaker 1: But then of course you showed up fully nude as well,

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Speaker 1: and and now I mean, I I can't help but think,

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Speaker 1: you know, are you mad? That we're matchy matchy. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm furious first and foremost, and in fact, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to put on a pair of socks. What if we

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Speaker 1: did like full improv audio improv and you heard me

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Speaker 1: be like to crepening my door, creek stiff, it's on,

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Speaker 1: but I'm I'm I'm still fully nude. So it's just

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Speaker 1: like pop pop pop. It's likely that's the sound of

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Speaker 1: just like my body moving. You know, people don't do

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Speaker 1: enough audio improv anymore. I agree, And you know why,

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Speaker 1: it's because it doesn't sell. That's the feedback we've always

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Speaker 1: got in his script script script, why isn't the podcast more? Script? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: stop doing sound effects. No one's buying it, No one's

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Speaker 1: and you know, people and and we say, you know,

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Speaker 1: but people love it when we actually explain that we're

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Speaker 1: doing sound effects and do a sort of meta commentary

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Speaker 1: on the concept of audio improv and what about that?

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Speaker 1: And then and then they say, no, that doesn't sell either. No, sweetie,

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Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, it's not selling selling. No one is listening.

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Speaker 1: Here's a question, Um, if you're not selling, do you

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Speaker 1: have any worth? Well, it's interesting because your worth can appreciate.

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Speaker 1: So if you're not selling, then in twenty years people

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Speaker 1: can be like, well he was a genius. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: actually very good to know. If you are selling, oftentimes

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Speaker 1: that can actually bite you in the ass and you

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Speaker 1: can be called a sell out. Yes, the nineties are back. Um,

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Speaker 1: I guess like before, like George, like, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm hungover? Okay, because I can hear it

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Speaker 1: in your voice, but I was trying to hide it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was shame, right, how are you well? I'm a

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Speaker 1: little hungover, but I think you were trying to hide

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Speaker 1: it too. Not bad. I'm not bad either, actually, um

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Speaker 1: tastefully like I'm a normal like I like, like I

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Speaker 1: went out, you know what I mean? Yeah, of course,

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Speaker 1: just to be clear, I got home before midnight. And

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Speaker 1: yet I do feel like I do feel like I

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Speaker 1: went to kind of a a circuit party rager last night.

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Speaker 1: What did you do? But in fact that I went

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Speaker 1: to a college friends holiday party apartment and got back

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Speaker 1: before midnight. You were addicted to these wholesome gatherings. I

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Speaker 1: cannot even describe how addicted under the concept of a

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Speaker 1: holiday party. I mean, are they living up to your expectations?

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like, I want that dream. I have

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Speaker 1: the dream of the holiday party, and it never actually

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Speaker 1: lives up with the expectations. I bought a holiday alert

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Speaker 1: blazer that I'm going to wear to tonight's holiday party,

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Speaker 1: and I'll just let that sink in. So you're doing

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Speaker 1: two holiday parties in one singular weekend. No, actually I'm

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Speaker 1: doing three. Oh my god, Oh my god. On Friday,

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Speaker 1: one on Saturday, one on Sunday. Do you ever get

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Speaker 1: sick of it? No? What's your favorite holiday party activity? Go? Okay? Um,

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Speaker 1: you know when an eggnog is well made and you're like, no,

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Speaker 1: you actually have some and you're like, wow, this is delicious.

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Speaker 1: That can be really powerful. Um, when when the snacks

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Speaker 1: are well curated, when there's shrimp cocktail, for instance, Sure,

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Speaker 1: when you accidentally match with someone and take a photo,

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Speaker 1: sure one anywhere there s from cocktail. I'm in the heaven.

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Speaker 1: We all know this. Um, But what describe your holiday blazer? Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you for asking. So it is a kind of uh,

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Speaker 1: it is a sort of red and green plaid on white,

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Speaker 1: but it's not over. I know that red and green

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Speaker 1: plaid literally sounds like I'm Father Christmas. It actually reads

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Speaker 1: this Christmas when you know that's the context you're in.

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Speaker 1: But I could even wear it out in March and

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Speaker 1: I and I would still look pretty chicy. To be honest,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be and I'm not trying to be a

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Speaker 1: like I'm imagining like RuPaul walking to the workroom in

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Speaker 1: this type of blazing. All right, wow, I'm obviously you

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Speaker 1: are sort of you know, the archer Taylor Swift knifing

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Speaker 1: a dart in my end to my heart. But I

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Speaker 1: will of course persevere and say that it actually is

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Speaker 1: not costume me and it is more editorial, and I

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Speaker 1: would say even runway adjacent. And I think it can

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Speaker 1: be dressed up or dressed down. You can wear it

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Speaker 1: with jeans or with a sort of formal black slack

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Speaker 1: just being you know, Double's advocate, which we all know

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Speaker 1: everyone loves. If you walk into a room and say

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Speaker 1: there's a Leganza Estranja there, would she say, work mama?

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Speaker 1: When you were I bet you actually that this blazer

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Speaker 1: is so subtle and sophisticated that Leganza wouldn't get you,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't even wouldn't even perceive that I'm turning a look.

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Speaker 1: You know who would an Aquaria a Violet Chat? If

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Speaker 1: I walked into a room with Violet Chat, she would

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Speaker 1: say okay, work okay, but Leganza would not get it.

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Speaker 1: Any any further questions. No, I actually think that's perfect.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I asked all the questions because now I

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Speaker 1: actually can see the blazer fully. Yeah. And you know

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Speaker 1: what else, I didn't even lead with this. I found

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Speaker 1: this uh an Advantage store. It is designer. It is

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have a brand name anywhere. It doesn't say,

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Speaker 1: back in rhyin stones. But if you know, if you

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Speaker 1: see me, you know I'm wearing designer? Okay, which designer

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Speaker 1: is it? What? Tom Brown? Any other questions? No, I

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Speaker 1: your designer blazer. Thank you. Um Okay, one more question?

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna wear it to multiple Christmas parties or

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Speaker 1: isn't that blazer? Again? I know? Well, I do think,

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Speaker 1: it too the trades. Yeah, so this is a note

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Speaker 1: to everyone throwing a holiday party, Um, have a step

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Speaker 1: podcast has resumed officially, So please welcome to the pod,

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Speaker 1: the one only Jeff Hiller. Can I can I? Can

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Speaker 1: I just please? I was listening in Can I just say? George?

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Speaker 1: You did this really amazing thing where you were wildly

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Speaker 1: a holiday colored jacket. Yeah. Well, I'm trying to be inclusive.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to just say Christmas. It's not a

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Speaker 1: holiday part I had a problem with Okay, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: that years ago? There's this there's this video, Jeff, I

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Speaker 1: it will be completely irrelevant. But it's just the darkest.

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Speaker 1: It is her doing an ad for lube and Israel,

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Speaker 1: making the stakes like we all do. And that is

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Speaker 1: But then I saw her on an untucked or not untucked.

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Speaker 1: some defense. Yeah. What what was your tactic during that difficult,

422
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: difficult game? Oh yeah, well, um, I forget which one.

423
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: I was like, really like, I want to tell you why,

424
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: but I will say, um, I forgot that Avatar happened

425
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: until I saw that there's a sequel to it, and

426
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, that movie, And then I

427
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: found out it was It's the highest grossing film of

428
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: all time, And I would just rather have unrealistic. Yeah,

429
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: it is true that unrealistic body standards are in some

430
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: ways better for society than realistic c g I in

431
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: the long run. In the long run, Yeah, and I

432
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: don't want to defend that. We're not going to We're

433
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: not defend that if you don't understand it. At least,

434
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: unrealistic body standards gave us Naomi Campbell. Yeah, nineties, James

435
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: Cameron could not make her on the computer. No, No,

436
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: I would argue he made Zoey sell Donna look worse. Yeah,

437
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: that's true, that's true. See, unrealistic body standards gave us

438
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: actual Zoe Seldana. And then James Cameron made her into

439
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: a blue alien, Like what is he doing? It's too confusing.

440
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: We've already sacrificed so much as a society to have her,

441
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, to present it. Yeah, exactly. It would be

442
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: fun if Naomi Campbell was an avatar too, that she

443
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: should actually be an avatar too, but be the only

444
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: one not blue. That's such a good idea. Everyone else

445
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: is blue in the Naomi camras, Like, hello, have you

446
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: seen that picture of her in that um in that

447
00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: crazy gown where she's standing next to the teleteb Oh,

448
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: it's real good. I don't understand it. And then there's

449
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: also that one of Nicole kime in with her at

450
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: the Boinciaga show and they're just talking, but they're like

451
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: in the dresses that they can't really move. It's really

452
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: good anyway, I would like her to just be in

453
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: that dress in Avatar, just standing next to one of

454
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: the blue people. That really would honestly, then I would

455
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: maybe watch Avatar too. The Shape of Water if Naomi

456
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 1: Campbell played herself in it in like a fun camera

457
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: I really love that, you know, the little I know? Yeah,

458
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: what do you call it? The tag? Highline tag or whatever?

459
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: I consulted on it. Yeah, he came up with it.

460
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: I um, will be honest with you both. I am

461
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: planning on seeing Avatar to Way of Water, Shape of Water,

462
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: the way of Water. Oh my god, it's the way

463
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: of Water. I've been saying the shape of water like

464
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: the movie. I've been saying the shape of water this

465
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: entire time. Then is the different movie? Shape of Water

466
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: is a different right? Um? Wow, that's so funny. I mean,

467
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: once again, no one corrected me, and I said it

468
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: truly like sixteen times. I honestly thought you were saying it, um,

469
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: And now I'm thrown off. But I'm currently in a

470
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: text thread planning to go, saying which night are we

471
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: going to go? Isn't that weird? When is it opening?

472
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: You know, December six? See you there, see these we're

473
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: renting out a whole other people. Yeah, people need to

474
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: show up to show that that that movies matter. Movies

475
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: are are back, because the pandemic is officially over. Because

476
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: wait a minute, did it end just since we had

477
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: our last yeah, text alert, Yeah, there was a text alert.

478
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: You know, do not disturb. Do not disturb. It's my

479
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: own fault. Yeah. Yeah, that's why you never mute your

480
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: text messages. When you're doing a podcast, it's really important

481
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: to be on your phone constantly because the news, the

482
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: way that you know, things are happening so fast these

483
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: days that you just have to be on your phone constantly,

484
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: even when you're recording. It's really true. That's you've you've

485
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: taught me. Sorry, that wasn't a very good response. That

486
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: was really great, was it? Yeah? It was really really good.

487
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: Just trying to be really basic on this. No, what's

488
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: your most if you had what's your most unoriginal idea

489
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: that you've ever had? Oh that's a good question. Mm hmm. Oh,

490
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: that's like I'm married. It's pretty like going along. Um,

491
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: what else I just went on? I went on a

492
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 1: vacation to an all inclusive response. That's pretty that's pretty basic.

493
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: That's pretty basic. Where was it Punta Khana in the

494
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: Dominican Republic? That's yeah, you didn't go to the Atlantis

495
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: Resort in the Caribbean. I didn't, although the Dominican Republic,

496
00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: I think is technically in the Caribbean. I guess that's true. Well, well,

497
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: we're listening and we're learning, and we're really doing our

498
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: best over here. Um, I'm trying to think, what's your

499
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: most un original thought? Sam? My most unriginal thought is

500
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: that I'm like, like, my true most unriginal thought is like,

501
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 1: don't talk to me till I've had my coffee. Like

502
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm like every morning, I'm like I'm in my coffee

503
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: and it's like, seriously, that's like what you're annoyed at.

504
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that's pretty much my deal. Yeah. I

505
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: guess my current most unriginal thought is a sort of

506
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: my sort of fetishization of the holidays that is happening

507
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: this year. I'm really like gonna go to a Christmas

508
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: market at some point, which I do think there's something

509
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: deeper going on here with your obsession with the holiday,

510
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: and I don't really know what it means, like is

511
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: it a family feeling. I guess it can be traced

512
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: back to mama, you know, as the world becomes more

513
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: in this climate, as the world becomes more uncertain, rising inflation, etcetera,

514
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: I am grasping onto the things that made me feel

515
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: safe as a child. That makes sense. Oh my god,

516
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: I just kind of text alert apparently, Yeah, nothing's going

517
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: on anymore. Oh, things are kind of back tomorrow. Oh

518
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: my god. That's such a relief. It's such a relief.

519
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: Jeff is actually checking us phone. He's like, wait, I

520
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: didn't get it. I didn't get the alert. Jeff, is

521
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: your phone on airplane mode? Oh you just got it? Yeah, yeah,

522
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: So nothing's going on anymore. That's also I hope it lasts,

523
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: is what I'll say, you know, because in the past,

524
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: we've had moments where we've gotten that alert, nothing to

525
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: go back anymore, and then three days later things are

526
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: start happening. Things happen. But I think for now we

527
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: can just enjoy that, like, all right, we get a break.

528
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: We got a break now. Models can five once again. Yeah, yeah,

529
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: body positivities over, We're back to I have been wait

530
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: for it, waiting into exhale and just thank you reade Um.

531
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: I think maybe it could be radical, radically unoriginal if

532
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: we got into our topic. Yeah, I'm so excited. This

533
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: is maybe one of the more radical ways we've ever

534
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: chosen a topic. It's it's actually like so scary the

535
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: way that this topic was chosen that I think like

536
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: we haven't felt like a rush of danger in a while. Yeah,

537
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: we do feel like you know, we've talked in the

538
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: past on this podcast about how the ultimate, the ultimate

539
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: punk rock artist is the vomit artist that Lady Gaga

540
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: performed with that south By Southwest, and right now I

541
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: am feeling that we are being vomit artists by having

542
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: this topic and and and and doing it kind of

543
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: doing it live. And I will say, when I introduced

544
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: the topic, Sam's response was if it's a DoD oh

545
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: well and that was and that was his fear talking. Well, yeah, okay,

546
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: Whereas I feel so confident that this is going to

547
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: be a sort of David Bowie esque revolution. It's going

548
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: to revolutionize music. Actually, I might vomit and I don't know,

549
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: and if you do, that will only make it more powerful. Hey, Jeff,

550
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: if you're gonna vomit, don't do it till I've had

551
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: my coffee. Jeff. If vomit, I prefer you to it

552
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: in the house. Um Okay, Jeff, I'm going to actually

553
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: ask you to introduce the topic as naturally as you

554
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 1: possibly can. Okay. Well, um, So, in straight culture, there

555
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: is um a love and an obsession for brass instruments.

556
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: Instruments and I'm thinking like a marching band. I'm thinking

557
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: like a saxophone solo during an eighties rock ballad exactly.

558
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: And I think, by the way, already putting way more

559
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: thought into it than when I just introduced. You know,

560
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: now I'm actually hooked. Now I'm like, but now I'm like,

561
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: this was the topic all along. I've never I've never

562
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: felt more clarity. Yeah, you've been everything in your life

563
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: has allowed you to hear, Like, think about a trombone,

564
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: like first blush, You're like, oh, that's a pretty gay instrument,

565
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, because it's like you're moving your you're moving

566
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: your arm in sort of a queer way, and you

567
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: know you have to just kind of and you have

568
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: to put your mouth, you know, you have to put

569
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: your mouth in a weird position. But really, if you

570
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: just step back two steps, you're like, oh, that is

571
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: straight culture appropriating exactly exactly, that's what the trombone. The

572
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: trombone is straight culture appropriating gay culture. Even the case

573
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: is like a little weird. It's got curves that like

574
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: at first or like these are strange curves, and then

575
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: you're like, oh god, it's just curves objectifying a woman's Yes,

576
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: you know what sounds. I'm like thinking of the sound,

577
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: like that is one of the straightest sounds you could

578
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: possibly make. Well, it's militaristic. Also militaristic. Well that's yes, Well,

579
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: brass instruments are part of the military. Yeah, they're a

580
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: whole arm of the military. Yeah. It's kind of like fireworks,

581
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: where you think it's gay because it's colorful, but then

582
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: you're like, well, we're celebrating actually fourth of July, right,

583
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: and uh you'll be burned at the state like a witch,

584
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: which actually it's kind of queer. Yeah, of course, I mean, yes,

585
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: women suffering is always a slag. I mean okay, so yeah,

586
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: brass instruments. To me, it is marching band, and Marching

587
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: Band has a confusing sexuality because it's raw. It's definitely

588
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: her horny. Yes, I think it's only horny since American Poe.

589
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: That's a that's a thing just since the year two.

590
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: Because when that movie came out, it was so shocking

591
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: because they weren't you only thought of the Marching Band.

592
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: And I realized that it came out that movie came

593
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: out when you know, before you had an idea of culture,

594
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: a life or I don't know, maybe we're born I

595
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: don't know, would have been born in Yeah. Yeah, it

596
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: was an awesome day actually one Honestly, if you told

597
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: me that movie came out in I would have been like, um, anyway,

598
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: when we are your boy before way before Yeah, sixties.

599
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: So we've been around, we've seen we've seen a marching

600
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: band go from straight to gay and back again. But

601
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: I do think that that movie made you look at

602
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: Marching band people differently. I completely agree. And you know,

603
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: because my incident was to say that Marching Band at

604
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: its core is bisexual. There's something there, There is something

605
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: to me fluid and I don't know, um, you know,

606
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: the costumes and the co ed it's one of the

607
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: few activities that is co ed in our world. And also, um,

608
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: you know, they really fetishize the leader who does exactly yeah,

609
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: who I guess it's just keeping the beat. I don't know.

610
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: And uh, like in my high school they were like

611
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: big time auditions and like, uh, I graduated in the

612
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: in the nineties from high school and there had never

613
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: been a woman as the stomper with the baton as

614
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: as the stomper with the drum major. Okay, yeah, So

615
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: following a man that's said him to be not only

616
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: does it feel straight, it feels like the fascistic. Yeah.

617
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: That's like like I almost like don't want to get

618
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: into it. That's like a little fascism. But okay, but

619
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: but go off every fascistic fetishistic it's well they go

620
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: hand in hand, honestly, Yeah, which is to take the

621
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: fetish out of fascism. One of the most difficult parts

622
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: about being gay is taking the fetish out of fashism.

623
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: I love you, Okay, Okay, I actually this is such

624
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: a rich topic. I'm I'm realizing that I think Marching Band.

625
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: The Marching Band really like brought me into it in

626
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: a in a way that I really appreciate. Right, and

627
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: it's not just brass instruments because also, like the drum

628
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: line is real rife with like you have to be

629
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: super butch and like and like the high school women

630
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: who or whatever college when like you see a woman

631
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: in a drumline, I feel like there is often like, um,

632
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta show my metal that I can

633
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: carry this. They asked, drum yeah very much, which was straight. Yeah,

634
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: women have themselves yeah, yeah, being like we can be

635
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: just as good as the guys. Also, I mean it's

636
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: this is a very personal to the guys, being like

637
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: you need to be just as good as that, and

638
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: the assumption that they wouldn't ever couldn't have. Yeah, the

639
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: woman like walks into the room and immediately the guys

640
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: were like, gotta share your chops, and she's like, all right,

641
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: well I'm actually just having coffee and donut right now.

642
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: It's you know, we're still getting ready. You know. I

643
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: actually had an early straight sexual experience to the film

644
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: Drumline starring Nick Cannon. Oh yeah, well Nick Cannon was

645
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: like very hot. Yeah, is he the one you were

646
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: attracted to? Or no, No, it was I It was

647
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: I was making out with like a woman and um, yeah,

648
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: I was an early you know, we're all figuring ourselves out. Um.

649
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: And actually she started a toxic rumor that she gave

650
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: me a b J and uh my mom heard. Needless

651
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: to say, she was furious, and then you had to

652
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: be like, no, mom, I'm gaged. She was like, oh

653
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,959
Speaker 1: I forget Oh thank god, how did your mom here?

654
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this town, you know, everyone's chatting. It

655
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: was like they like got to her circle somehow, and

656
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: it was like, my maybe my sister heard, and like

657
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: my sister told me something like that, like it it

658
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: got to her. Um. And I was like that didn't

659
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: even happen, Like I didn't even that didn't even happen. Um.

660
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: And my mom was like you have to break up

661
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: with her, and I was like okay, and I did,

662
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: like no, I don't want to know. She's so special

663
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: to me, don't make me do that. She might maybe

664
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: give me a blow job and they don't have to

665
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: get one. But wait a minute. So she spread the

666
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: rumor that like that's so so opposite, it's a petical

667
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: feminis actually it's fully empowered. It is literally like that

668
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: is that that is third wave feminism is spreading a

669
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: rumor that you gave a gay guy a blowjob. Yeah,

670
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: it's like radical feminism strands exclusionary, but it's definitely rad.

671
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: It's definitely radical. It remains to be seen how exclusionary

672
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: it is for sure, but I guess it's six pis

673
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: it is sex positive because she's like she's I mean,

674
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: she's literally spreading a rumor about herself being more slutty

675
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: than she actually is. She's reclaiming it so much that

676
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: other people are getting, you know, kind of burned up

677
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: the stake. So then when you came out where people

678
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: are like surprised, well that's sort of um one, yes,

679
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: no one saw it coming. Let's start there, sweetie. Um yeah,

680
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: they were really shocked. But also I didn't ever. I

681
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: came out in college and those people were in high school,

682
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: and I kind of just like never addressed it, Like

683
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: I kind of just like left that part of my life. Yeah,

684
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: that's how I am with high school people too. Kind

685
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: of awesome, awesome and cowardly. Uma as I said, well,

686
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm gay now, and you guys remember me when I

687
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: was straight, So I have to never speak to you again. Yeah,

688
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: you don't exist to me anymore. The old zamm died,

689
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So when you when you went to college,

690
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: but before you never were in the closet incollege, you

691
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: just like I was in the closet a cool year

692
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: or so, and people were like when he came out

693
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: or they were like, I think for telling me. They

694
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: were like you're doing they were like, um, They're like,

695
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: thank you for telling me. I think they were like that,

696
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: yeah you um, I mean, I certainly think. I mean

697
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: in college, I was like I was trying to do

698
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: this thing, especially you know, truly, from like week one,

699
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: I thought I could do this thing where I was

700
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 1: just like gay with gay people and then I could

701
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: go back to my dorm room and no one would

702
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: know classic and it's like, well, we're all in the

703
00:43:51,320 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: same campus of almost two people. Very small, very small.

704
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: I literally like, I mean, to this day, I never

705
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: came out to or like never addressed my sexuality to

706
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: my freshman year roommate, like I would like it would

707
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: be very obvious that I was, like all my friends

708
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: were gay, Like I was going to gay events, and

709
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: I would I think I would even like imply that

710
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: I liked women with it, like I would just like

711
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: completely as though he couldn't. I didn't have eyes and ears. Wow.

712
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: I love that. You should go back to doing that.

713
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: That would be cool. I shouldn't actually um starting now, mr.

714
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Jeff. Were people shocked when you came

715
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: out of the closet. Even my mom was like, yeah,

716
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: say this. My parents were shocked in a way where

717
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: I was like, come on, They were like flabbergasted. Wo

718
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: I've yet to have anyone be surprised. Yeah. Well, and

719
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: sometimes people come up to me on the street. Not anymore,

720
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: but I used to be on this prank show like

721
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: a long long time ago, so like you didn't know

722
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: people's personality or whatever, and I was like hired to

723
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: be the gay pranker, And sometimes people would come up

724
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: to me on the street and they'd be like, I

725
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: know you're actually gay. People do that to us all

726
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: the time. I was like, what made you think? I

727
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: was trying to deny it as a gay guy on

728
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: Boiling Points? Oh my god, boiling points. That was the

729
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: gain that is so iconic. You have no idea Boiling

730
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: points raise me? Yeah, I mean it's it's you know,

731
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: we're fans of so much of your other acting work

732
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: in more recent years, but this is actually the most

733
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: impress I've ever been. It's just like I'm like, I

734
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: had no idea. I wasn't prepared for this, screw HBM.

735
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: I was one PM when I got home from school,

736
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: no less, exactly exactly. And one time we did this

737
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 1: like gay blind date and this one like they called

738
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: him Marks, and the Mark came in and he just

739
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: like I hadn't even started. I was supposed to be

740
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: really whiny on the date, but like I just go

741
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: high and he goes, I'm sorry, no, oh my god.

742
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: But people used to do things like that in the

743
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: what early two thousands, when was this, Yeah, that's been happening.

744
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: That's back in the day. It was like mentally preparing

745
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: for like boiling points, Like it was one of those

746
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: things where I was like, this must be a thing

747
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: that happens always, Like I was like mentally preparing for

748
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: like when boiling points comes for me, and being like

749
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: kept think you were going to be on boiling points,

750
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what if I if

751
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: that happened to me, I would never cuss. I would

752
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: never get mad because I'm so called like I could

753
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: absolutely win the hundred dollars on boiling Points. Yeah. Well,

754
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: Boiling Points really did train us for the surveillance state

755
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: in that way, Like it was like they could be watching,

756
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: like the cameras could be on and you might be

757
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: on Boiling Points, so you better act normal. It's it's

758
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: awful because it's like it's like, well, reward you if

759
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: you don't stand. It's like, let someone be really mean

760
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: to you for twenty two minutes. Oh my god. I

761
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: mean also, like credit to Boiling Points for having a

762
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: gay prankster. I mean, talk about inclusion that it's so

763
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: powerful gay. I mean nobody was doing it like Boiling Points. Yeah,

764
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: and two thousand and two you couldn't have a gay

765
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: and latina. They were. They were super progressive, super progressive. Wow.

766
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: How does it feel for us to have that reaction

767
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: to a job that you probably are like, I hated

768
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:11,959
Speaker 1: doing that. Um honestly, it was surprising you've even heard

769
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: of it. I'm more just like wow, wow, um wait,

770
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: I want to return to brass instruments for a second.

771
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that's that's when it was. The whole

772
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: episode is about start to finish, of course. Yeah, um

773
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: okay with brass instruments, I'm like, why are you telling

774
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: me what it's made of, you know what I mean?

775
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: That feels very It's like, oh yeah, it's hard brass,

776
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: Like like, why not call that? I mean, that's not there.

777
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: It's like calling a piano a wooden keys exactly. Yeah,

778
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: it's very strange, like why are we suddenly having a

779
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: conversation about materials. Yeah, it's very um literal in a

780
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: way because he would say string instruments too, But string

781
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: instruments that is the that's what you pluck, is the

782
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: strings or that that's what makes the sound. Rass instruments.

783
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, you should call them like blowing instruments or

784
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: or something similar. Why not just horns? Whether I think

785
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: my little giggle shows you why they do or horns? Yeah,

786
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: I think horns. I think I think in like rock groups,

787
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 1: they are like the horn section. You know. Bruno Mars

788
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: is like, these are my horns. Yeah, sure, he's always

789
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: saying that. When we had him on, he kept saying

790
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: things to my horns. He's the only person I could

791
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: think of that has a horn section. And Jeff, when

792
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: you brought up this topic, I actually do want to

793
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: return to one thing that you said was a saxophone

794
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: solo and what speaks to me about that straight is

795
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: that it conjures an image of like a teen in

796
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: like suburbia, like wearing like wayfarer sunglasses and like pretending

797
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: to be like cool for like an hour. And that

798
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: is very straight to me. Doing it like the air version.

799
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that's pretty straight, yeah, I think. But also

800
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: make believe, which, as we know, is gay. Yeah, it's

801
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: it's living in your fantasy. Yeah. Yeah, I could see

802
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: a stranger with a saxophone prop being like horn section mama,

803
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: come on, I mean, just to quickly run through it.

804
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: Which press instruments are gay? Just so everyone's clear, let's

805
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: rank them. I'm pulling up a list because obviously French

806
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: horn obviously start there. I already made my case for trombone.

807
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: Do you think trombone is gay or straight? Oh? I

808
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: think trumbone is straight. Okay. I think you could make

809
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: a case that like a tube is sort of like um,

810
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: like sort of like a bear is a bear. I mean,

811
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: tuba is like it is literally you are mothering yourself

812
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: when you play tuba. That is, um, you are like

813
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: being on the outskirts of society in a way that

814
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: is I mean, I do think tuba players are born

815
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: this way. But also if you just hear a tuba solo, right,

816
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 1: if you just hear a tuba solo, that's straight, it's

817
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: just the tuba, then it's like, that's straight. Okay, So

818
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: I'm literally I pulled up a little chart. So we

819
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: have the tuba, trombone, trumpet, horn, saxophone, pan, flute, clarinet,

820
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: horn horn is just one. There is one called horn,

821
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: and there's one called the French horn. Well, that's complicated,

822
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: and then there's of course the flute. Well, the flute

823
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 1: is almost so obviously gay that you have to interrogate

824
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: it a little bit. I actually think it could be

825
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: seen as straight because it's like it's like a straight woman,

826
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: Like it's like I play the flute like I'm normal,

827
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: Like it's very like, don't question me at all. If

828
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: you're a woman, it's normal to play the flute. And

829
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: then of course if a guy plays the flute, he's

830
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: being purposefully like subverting the hetero sexual institution of marriage,

831
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: and he's probably a nerve um. Clarinet is a tough one.

832
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 1: Where do we land on that? I think straight, Yeah,

833
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: it does feel kind of straight, because I think that

834
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: is what would to me. The main thing with the

835
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: clarinet is that that's what would he Allen plays right.

836
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: And it's also like at least the young woman in

837
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: my high school who played the clarinet where um lgbt

838
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: Q No, oh no, they were God, there's no word

839
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: that's not just to read. So I'm gonna just say

840
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: they're boring. Oh that's to say. I do think a

841
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: clarinet is a sorry, like a boring God. We're gonna

842
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: get so many letters from clarinet players. By the way,

843
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: if you are good at playing any of these instruments,

844
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed with you. I think playing an instrument

845
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: is so difficult. I tried both piano and violin when

846
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: I was young, and I was so bad at them.

847
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: Did you ever play the handbells? No? But I bet

848
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: I would be really good at that. Is it just

849
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: like that you ran it sounds ms? I love that

850
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: you have to play them in really and it's like

851
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: you're only one note, so you have to wait until

852
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: your note comes. Then that's a sort of cameo, you know,

853
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: it's like you have a guest role, right, But that

854
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: that is that is gambled. Even at the church Oh.

855
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: I always love when there's an instrument that like is

856
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: a little It's like when someone plays a triangle or something,

857
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: when it's almost like a bit that you're even playing it.

858
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: That I love. Yeah, when it's just like they're holding

859
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: the triangle for a really long time and then they

860
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: just go one little bit of it. Yeah, that is

861
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: really cute. That's nice, so delicate. That's actually an old

862
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: improv trick of mine that I would just pull out

863
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: the triangle like when they when for some it's a

864
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: long story, but my improv team would often be like

865
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: just playing in a band and I would just hold

866
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: the triangle in the back line. So when they were

867
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: improv playing the band, were they making noises with their mouths?

868
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: Were they doing sound effects? Yeah? They were. And they

869
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: would often make this one particular member of our team

870
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: like give a little like he would They would make

871
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: him do like Elvis where he would be like saying

872
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: in the band times, yeah, I'm not gonna lie to you.

873
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: We weren't a very good improv team. I really do

874
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: think if you go through improv training you can handle

875
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: anything in life. Jeff agree. And by the way, I

876
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: don't mean that as a compliment that's like you, yeah,

877
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: which has given you more tools to succeed improv training

878
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: or boiling points training. And they're just one of the same.

879
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: They are the same, They really were. Both of them

880
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: make you just subvert all of your needs, go along

881
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: with the other person. Yeah, which, by the way, I've

882
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 1: been doing since Burt So I hear. That's how you see,

883
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: that's how you gained success by by completely diminishing your

884
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: own needs and become what union. If there's one thing

885
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: I tell my mentees, it's just the smaller, less less personality,

886
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: less less. I don't want to know anything about you.

887
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: See say yes, and don't even say and just so yes.

888
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: In fact, say nothing, say nothing, just not no. I

889
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: didn't look scared, silently cry not and look scared. That's

890
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: the best thing. Blank if you can hear me, but

891
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: don't don't move too much, no too much? Blinking. Wow,

892
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: what a dream if they said blink if you can hear,

893
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god. That um well, I think we've covered

894
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: brass instruments and now we've covered acting. Umah. And I

895
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: guess the final thing about just on a very obvious

896
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: level of brass instruments, it's like you see a full

897
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: orchestra or something. Everyone is being so dainty, so delicate,

898
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: and suddenly the brass people are like, like it is

899
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: it does feel like quiet? Quiet, simmer down. Yeah, we're

900
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: actually trying to real music. Yeahn't real music and you're

901
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: coming in here with your comedic sound of section and

902
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, like, um, when I grew up going to

903
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 1: church on Easter Sunday, they bring in the brass instrument

904
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: and it's always these kind of like butch guys. You'd

905
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: be like, you know, they do a lot of like

906
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: moving their lips, you know, before they warmed up, and

907
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: then like but every like a Christmas they bring in

908
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: like a guest organist or like acchoired director or like

909
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: a soloist, and they were always a little swishy. But

910
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: the brass people they'd be like, let's do that. Yeah,

911
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: let's go. I want to bring the balcony so I

912
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: can blow it out from a book that I'm not

913
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: even questioning. Yeah anything, ye es anything. I've never had

914
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: a question of my entire life. I only speak in

915
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: declarative sentences. God, I wish that were me. All I

916
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: ever want is to just never question anything ever. I know,

917
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: and I know it's toxic. We need to stop from

918
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: now on moving forward, this podcast that is just about

919
00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: facts that we already know. That's right, a right in years,

920
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: a solution for everyone. No more questions, yeah, exactly, no

921
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: more questions, Yeah, no more questions at all. Well, Jeff,

922
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: any final thoughts on brass instruments. M hm, no, you know, wow,

923
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: you just dropped You just actually brought out a microphone

924
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: and dropped it just for the bit. I'm sorry. Case.

925
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: The way you applied so much with that no really

926
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: was powerful. Yeah. That that video is going to be

927
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: used as a reaction video online by teams. It was

928
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: so fun to be a Jeff. I'm gonna be a

929
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: Jeff Jeff Jeff the Jeff who Um. You know. I

930
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: actually have one last thing I want to say, which

931
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: is that people, you know, people will have you believe

932
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: that it's like overdone when Lizzo plays the flute. I

933
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: think it's still plays me too, And I actually don't

934
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: think it's like lame, like like good for her for

935
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: playing the flute. Oh dessent, Oh Sam, you don't agree.

936
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: I mean it's fine. I just like you don't care. No,

937
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: I kind of don't care to be honest, like, yeah,

938
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: she was playing she was playing the flute, Like I

939
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: feel the same way. Like it's not like her songs

940
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: are like flute forward like she well, you have to

941
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: think of it as alive. I agree with you, and

942
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:39,959
Speaker 1: I don't care when she does it like on TV.

943
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: I did not like it when she did in Hustlers.

944
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: It made literally no sense she's playing a stripper. But

945
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: I do think that if I were to see her

946
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 1: live and she brought out of flute, I would be

947
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: screaming and shipping my pants. That's true. I do agree

948
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,959
Speaker 1: with that. I'll tell you one thing I really don't

949
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: care about is the fact that she played that flute.

950
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: That's like somebody president. Yeah. Man, I was like, who cares? Oh,

951
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: please let her desecrate any antique flute once. And she

952
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: didn't desecrate it, right, It's like she peed all over over.

953
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: She actually took it and just like started smashing it

954
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: against the wall. Well, I guess I'm not a Yeah, Okay,

955
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: So was it James Madison? Is that we said? I

956
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: don't remember exactly. Well, James Madison never released a hot

957
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: dance track, so I think you know, once he's at

958
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: her level, we can talk. Yeah, when he can go

959
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: viral on TikTok at the drop of a hat, then

960
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: we'll talk when he's listen, you know, when he's a dent,

961
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: that dick. Yeah, he should release a single where he

962
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: says I'm a hundred percent that dick. That would be

963
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: such an amazing that would start such a great cultural

964
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: conversation colab actually, and that would really like heal the nation.

965
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: That would be nice. We needed Lizz collaborated with a

966
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: hologram of James Madison and they both played the flute.

967
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: That would be cool. Yeah, I'm just I'm I'll download it,

968
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: I'll stream, Yeah, stream comment, I'm not gonna go to

969
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: band camp floor. I mean I'll stream. Sure, why not?

970
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: So I think that actually might conclude our normal episode,

971
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: except that we have one final segment, if you can

972
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: believe it. Segment. It's just like the patron like, no, no,

973
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: this is it's very final segment. Yeah, I'm just I'm

974
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: just introducing it poorly. So this is like the aftershow.

975
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is where we talk about the show.

976
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: Please welcome. She drops from the ceiling. Come on, come on, okay, okay,

977
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: have a segment. Jeff is shout out and we give

978
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: a shout out, um, sort of in TRL style to

979
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: anything that we are enjoying. So imagine you know, you're

980
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: in Times Squares two thousand one and you're shouting out

981
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: to your squad back home, but about anything that you like. Um,

982
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: and George actually did say he had one, so would

983
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: you like to go for it? Yeah? Um, what's up

984
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: everybody out there? All my holiday hose and Christmas cooks

985
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: and Iconica angels and Kwanza bays. I want to give

986
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: a shout out to basically kind of a concept of

987
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: a silver frame, a really nice expensive picture frame as

988
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: a gift. People will tell you that it's lame or cliche,

989
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: or that it's something both a mom would do. Well,

990
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: you know what else some mom would do be iconic

991
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: and have the children. So maybe we could actually learn

992
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: from mothers, and maybe we could learn from women in

993
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: general and buy frames as pictures, as as gets picture frames,

994
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: as gets silver ones. Go out there, buy a silver

995
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: picture frame and bring it to your next holiday party, sweetheart,

996
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: because it will be used. Wow, that was beautiful. That

997
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: was okay? I have one to Actually, what's up everybody

998
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: around the globe. I want to give a huge shout

999
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: out to when there's big buildings behind small buildings. When

1000
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: I was walking down the street last night and I

1001
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: saw this beautiful row of small, let's say, three story buildings,

1002
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: and behind it, guess what, hundred story buildings. These buildings

1003
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: behind it were huge, and I said, this is so beautiful.

1004
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in a damn sci fi movie

1005
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: because it's like this is old and brick, and then

1006
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: over there is metal and gigantic. And I said, there's

1007
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: so much beauty in this damn city. And when I

1008
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: walk around, it is a damned moonlight. Sonata, I love

1009
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: big buildings behind small buildings, and I will continue to

1010
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: find beauty wherever I go in NYC, USA. That was

1011
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: such a good one, son, it was. I love that.

1012
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: I love it. Also when you hear the story where

1013
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: it's like the church sold it zara rights, but not

1014
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: that not it's ground rights and seas it's a fun

1015
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: I love that church. Oh my god, A mixed purpose building.

1016
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: I live. I got for that. Um okay, Jeff, whenever

1017
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: you are ready now I do win. Yeah. Okay, Hey,

1018
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: my my girls, my days, my days. What is up

1019
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: at your girl? Jeff? Coming at your life friend, the

1020
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: Lord is sadamn, And I just want to say, I

1021
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: am going to give it up for targets in the city. Normally,

1022
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not into these targets because they're smaller

1023
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: than real targets. And I actually heard that they were

1024
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: called urban targets, and I'm like, this is just a

1025
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: Dwayne read. Why do we need this place that? Yesterday

1026
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: I discovered that they sell oatnook to at three dollars

1027
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: each and they are normally six dollars at my grocery store.

1028
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: And they also had a three pack of Laquis saltzer

1029
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 1: for ten dollars, three pack up of eight packs, so

1030
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: and I realized, oh my god, normally they're like four

1031
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get three for ten dollars. Yes, yes,

1032
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: big business, saving me many economics. Your girl out. Oh

1033
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: my god, Wow, I did I love that? I love

1034
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: that too. No, I didn't watch t r L. Is

1035
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: that how they talk? I don't know. Yeah, that's actually

1036
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: how they all, that's how they all get good. You've

1037
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: pretty much nailed it. You pretty much nailed it. Yeah,

1038
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: you were too busy being on boiling points. Unbelievable. Yeah,

1039
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: t r l's main competitor Boiling. They took some of

1040
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: the cast of Boiling Points to the MTV v m

1041
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: As and the Movie Awards that I never got chosen.

1042
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: What oh my god, Yeah, I was about to say no, no, no,

1043
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: she joined in season two, everyone except the gay guy

1044
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: in the Latina got to go to the MTV Movie Awards.

1045
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: Not everyone, but none of the diversity. Wow, that's I

1046
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: could be wrong, Like, no, no, I didn't. That sounds

1047
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: like there's one thing I know about the early OTTs.

1048
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: It's that gay guys in Latinos were not invited to

1049
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: awards shows. But I did once get to go in

1050
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: the spring Break trip to Las Vegas. So oh my goodness,

1051
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: fun slash my worst nightmare, it really was. And you

1052
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: know what. The bit what I had to do was, um,

1053
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: I was a limo driver and another guy, a guy

1054
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: got in the back and he had a little fart

1055
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: machine and he kept farting, and I was like, you guys,

1056
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: it smells that. God I'm gonna charge him money because

1057
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: you made my limos smell bad. But also I didn't

1058
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: We couldn't drive because of I don't know technical reasons,

1059
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: and we were just sitting in a Parking Lot. Oh

1060
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: my god, I should tell that story similar win them off.

1061
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: You could win them off. I mean, it really is

1062
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: such a rush to hear the inside scoop about these shows,

1063
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: because they really did. I mean, it's like, I mean,

1064
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: it's like how Dax Shepherds started out un punked and

1065
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: now look at him. He's my favorite actor and podcaster

1066
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: even and podcaster. Yeah, yeah, I think this is really famous, right,

1067
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: isn't it is? Actually his podcast is huge, So no disrespect. God,

1068
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: I wish I was him every day. I wish I

1069
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: was him. Um, well, you know, Jeff, you've come a

1070
01:07:55,000 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: long way since spoiling points, and you know, we are

1071
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out a natural way to plug things.

1072
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: But we did want to know because so for the

1073
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: longest time we were staunchly anti capitalists, to the point

1074
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: where we would censor our guests when they brought up

1075
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: projects they're working on. But we do want to give

1076
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: you a long deep as if they were saying something, really,

1077
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: we do want to give you the opportunity. We actually

1078
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: did think it was like really funny, and we thought

1079
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: it was like really like edgy that we were like, no,

1080
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: literally are not allowed to plug anything, and then now

1081
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: we're like, it's actually not nice. It's actually not cool

1082
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: or nice. People are just trying to have careers and

1083
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: we are preventing them from doing that. So we do

1084
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: want to give you the space to kind of read

1085
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 1: your entire IMDb page from top to bottom. Yeah. So,

1086
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: and this one is just some I don't I think

1087
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: this is a sketch. I don't. I don't even know

1088
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: what this is public access. Um. I do want to

1089
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: say one thing, well, okay, we do want to give

1090
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: you the opportunity to to say what people can see

1091
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: you on. By the way, some of them, I have

1092
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: been on podcasts and then they put the podcast on IMDb.

1093
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: Do you all do that? What we can if you want,

1094
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:21,839
Speaker 1: We can if you want. I didn't understand it. Okay,

1095
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: go ahead, give me the rules. No. I just like

1096
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 1: anything you are currently on that you would like to plug,

1097
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: but also you don't have to. Now I feel like

1098
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: we're forcing into and honestly we're doing it. Yeah, Okay,

1099
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: here's the deal. Okay. I am on a TV show

1100
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: and I think it's good and I think people should

1101
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: watch it. Okay, and the first season is currently already

1102
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 1: on HBO, Max and the season two is coming out

1103
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: in the winter, which is just around the corner Merches. Yeah,

1104
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: and it's called Somebody Somewhere and it's a really good show.

1105
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: It is a really good show. Really, it's really it's

1106
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: a really incredible show and co starring Bridget Everet, who's

1107
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: one of our favorites here. Has she been on this No,

1108
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: but she was just simply I'm a fan. I would

1109
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: love her to come on. Please put in a good

1110
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: word for sure, Tell her we were not annoying and

1111
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 1: that we were really normal. To hold on him, Okay.

1112
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: I one time, before I started doing comedy, I saw

1113
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: her perform in San Francisco and I lived there, and

1114
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: it was like before she started like getting you know,

1115
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 1: it was like at a dive bar or something like.

1116
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: It was before she was super big. And I and

1117
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: I still do this day. I'm like, that was maybe

1118
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: the best live performance of any kind of ever seen

1119
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: in my entire life. I think she maybe did a

1120
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: stage dive from the bar in a dive bar to

1121
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: an audience of like twelve. Well, she's not gonna phone

1122
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: it in. There's an audience. God. I love her so much.

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01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: Um and Jeff, I also want to say one thing,

1124
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: which is that I have been instructed. My boyfriend told

1125
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 1: me to tell you that you gave one of his

1126
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: favorite line readings of all time. I'm on Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt,

1127
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: where someone and I wish I remember the details when

1128
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: someone says like, in a very crazy tone, says like

1129
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: thank you, and then you say same time, you're welcome. Yeah.

1130
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure I have been thinking about same tone, you're welcome. Yeah,

1131
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: that's funny. Yeah, thank you. Yeah you know what, Yeah,

1132
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: I think you should have gotten that role. Thank you. Yeah,

1133
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: you know. If the show we're still on, I think

1134
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:41,799
Speaker 1: they would right. Actually, that role that I played someone

1135
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: else had. Originally it was like the assistant to um

1136
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: to one of the male women, Donna Maria, and they

1137
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: originally had a different assistant. He did one episode, but

1138
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: then he was on tour doing some show and he

1139
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 1: couldn't come back to shoot the second episode, and so

1140
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: it was Bruno Mars. It was Preston Sapler, who actually

1141
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: happened to know anyway, so I would imagine that he

1142
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: probably did it better. But my real point is when

1143
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 1: they do the Kimmi Schmidt movie. But I think they

1144
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: already did it didn't. They what do I have to

1145
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: do to get cast in this town? You should be

1146
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: the next day assist. They would take two different names

1147
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: and put it together. Some Mine was Tomathy and I

1148
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 1: forget what Tommers guy's name was. It was like Krista

1149
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: Dave or something like that. My favorite one of those

1150
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: is Vanessica. If I do drag, that's gonna be my

1151
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 1: ali and I love that. Well, thanks for doing our podcast.

1152
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: We really appreciate you coming on. Thank you for having me,

1153
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 1: thank you for letting me plug. Jesus, I was like

1154
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: pulling teeth like a show. Yeah, well you know your

1155
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: your entire team of twelve has been emailing us NonStop

1156
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,839
Speaker 1: seeing if you don't let him plug. We're not releasing

1157
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: the episode. We're pulling your plug. Plug. They're gonna they're

1158
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: gonna make you need to be on life support. And

1159
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: then they're podcast is funded by your team in order

1160
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: to promote your projects. You really are in it for

1161
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: the long game, because we've been now doing it for

1162
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: three years because you wanted it not to see him

1163
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: too obvious, But it's all been leading up to you

1164
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: being on the podcast to promote somebody somewhere and pepper

1165
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: Master three years ago. I didn't even we hadn't even

1166
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: done the show yet. I would eventually have work. Wow,

1167
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: you got to plan ahead. Wait, did you start this

1168
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: during the pandemic? Like right when the pandemic started? Kind of?

1169
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: We had recorded a few before and then we started

1170
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: releasing them after it started. Captive audience. Yeah, and look

1171
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: at us now and look us now, still on. Well,

1172
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 1: the pandemic isn't wait is the pandemic over? Yah, she's

1173
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: got a text it's not open to go down. That's

1174
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: too bad. I love that twenty minute period where it

1175
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: was over in the middle of our episode.