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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a new episode of the show. This week,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about some of the fantastic fun moments from

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Speaker 1: the playoffs from around the league. Obviously, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about what's dope about the NBA and dig a little

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Speaker 1: bit deeper into the mind of our guest today podcast

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Speaker 1: producer actually one of the producers of this show and

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Speaker 1: the host of his very own show, Jobari Ali Davis.

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Speaker 1: I'm Miles Gray, I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is Miles

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Speaker 1: and Jack God mad Boost crushed it. Okay, everybody, welcome, Welcome, Well,

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Speaker 1: we are here, we are doing it. It is the playoffs. Yes,

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Speaker 1: who better to have fun? Who better to have than you?

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Speaker 1: And I, Oh you mean the guest of course, No, No,

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Speaker 1: I was just talking about you. Oh yeah, someone we

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Speaker 1: know very well, someone who we've actually known for a

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Speaker 1: few years. Has been a guest on our other podcast,

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Speaker 1: The Daily See guys very well known in the NBA world.

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Speaker 1: Old especially if you're writing about the NBA, maybe you're

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Speaker 1: on NBA Twitter, maybe you like NBA podcast because this

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Speaker 1: man is also the host of the new podcast NBA

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Speaker 1: Finals File with Robert Rory. Please welcome Jabari Ali Davis.

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Speaker 1: What appreciate you having me appreciate you. I'm just right here.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to sing. Yeah, alright, it's good to have you.

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Speaker 1: That's cool that you are hosting with a big shot

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Speaker 1: rob big shot Bob. He's good at basketball and knows

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Speaker 1: the thing. Where two he's been in the finals before, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at the time is at the time he retired. I

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Speaker 1: think he had one played in in one of the

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Speaker 1: All NBA first Yeah. Wait, that's real. Huh, that's real. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just say I'm actually doing the bath And I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, that's act. That's that's facts. That's

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Speaker 1: gotta be hard because like on this show, like I

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Speaker 1: can just say whatever I want, because you know, Miles

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Speaker 1: has been in I haven't run the math recently, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think his percentage of NBA finals is quite

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Speaker 1: that high. So I feel like I can just say

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Speaker 1: any anything, uh, and not be contradicted. But like, when

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Speaker 1: you're talking to one of the all time goats of

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Speaker 1: NBA playoff basketball, what what is? How do you feel

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Speaker 1: about that? I'm gonna be honest with you. I play

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Speaker 1: it pretty straight, like I I told him. I told

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Speaker 1: him from the start I'm an NBA fanatic, I told

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Speaker 1: him from the world, not a fan of ears. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's okay Laker fan. Can't really remember anything where you

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Speaker 1: really got my hairs to stand up on my neck. No,

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Speaker 1: all jokes aside, like he's fantastic. It's one of those

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Speaker 1: where he lies to me and says stuff like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of yours too, and that makes me

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Speaker 1: and you know what that does. It shows me he's

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Speaker 1: been a part of team. Yes, he's like to get

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Speaker 1: the young fellow a little bit of confidence real quick.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, all right, young man, Like thank you

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Speaker 1: Robert as somebody who has talked to Robert Ory before,

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Speaker 1: because that is something that we talked about on this

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Speaker 1: show sometimes, is like the intangible those things where you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody all the ink gets used up by the like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they added this blue chip and like that will give

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Speaker 1: them a big three and therefore they're gonna contend next

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Speaker 1: year and you know, at least during his career. The

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Speaker 1: thing they should have just been tracking is, oh they

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Speaker 1: added Robert Ory. He wins almost every every year, but

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Speaker 1: he's on a team. Um, So, like, do you have

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Speaker 1: a theory of the case of like, what what it

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Speaker 1: is other than you know, him just being big shot

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Speaker 1: Bob or I already let him know, Like, for one,

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Speaker 1: he is that he is the NBA equivalent of like

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Speaker 1: remember the old Kevin Bacon game, six degrees of separation.

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Speaker 1: You know, with Kevin Bacon, he comes into the league,

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Speaker 1: he competed against Jordan's he competed again, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's just it's absolutely nuts. But yeah, he's he's had

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Speaker 1: a charmed existence. But the reality is this. He was

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Speaker 1: a versatile six ten guy that could put the ball

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Speaker 1: much just a basketball Swiss Army Knight, right exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like he take that, Yeah, I think people would be

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Speaker 1: less surprised if he was on a bunch of finals teams. Now,

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Speaker 1: not that they were surprised, but I feel like it,

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Speaker 1: getting I'm I continue to be spoiled. I continue as

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Speaker 1: a neutral. I'm jabari. Obviously, maybe people have can deduced

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Speaker 1: where Angelino's and lifelong Laker fans, so we are watching

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Speaker 1: this as neutrals. This year, I'm I'm I'm liking what

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Speaker 1: and things are yet to happen. But uh, what what what?

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling? What's your how's your how's your

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Speaker 1: but this is the most I've enjoyed, actually physically enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the postseason in you know, a couple

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Speaker 1: But honestly, to your point, being a neutral makes it

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Speaker 1: go into each game, each series just as a fan,

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Speaker 1: and I've been absolutely loving right. I had a few,

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Speaker 1: go to a three one, And I got three of them.

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Speaker 1: Three of them. My wishes were answered. Uh, and that

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Speaker 1: I think just the level of competition again is at

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Speaker 1: hold that out, let me go back. Now it's time

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Speaker 1: like I'm Yeah, as I talked about pretty regularly on

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I've just I've just been taking to

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking for good basketball, just good basketball. And

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Speaker 1: you to your point, Jack, the ending of that game

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Speaker 1: But Golden State was one of the teams were like, man,

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Speaker 1: jumper the game winner or was that a game winner?

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to was just curious if that was.

427
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: The Raptors did win that game. So that and that

428
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Speaker 1: must be indicative of how the series is going, right,

429
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: because you put it in there, that must be the

430
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Speaker 1: thing that sums up the Raptor Sixer series. Oh wait, no, okay,

431
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: so the Sixers are up three one as this recording.

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Speaker 1: Um so, just one other thing that happened in this

433
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Speaker 1: series was Top three m VP candidate Joel embiad excepted

434
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: an inbounds pass with point nine seconds on the shot

435
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: clock and two seconds left in overtime tie ball game,

436
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: hit a turnaround three feathery soft. This is this man

437
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: is the size of shock and has just the feathery

438
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: ist lightest touch, even lighter lighter than a pilot spider webs.

439
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: That's how light this touch was. Yes, feathers, feathers do

440
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: not do it justice. Fall Why that was clean though?

441
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: That was so clean the body control that it takes

442
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: to be able to do that, and you know, as

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Speaker 1: a normal sized person let alone. Oh I'm not joking.

444
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: I almost hurt my back trying to are trying to wash,

445
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: like scrub the lower part of my back in the

446
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: shower and this guy's full trunk rotation to like catch

447
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: and shoot again. I am the furthest thing from a

448
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: professional athlete. I'm a professional podcaster, which means shooting in

449
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: the gym means two k while sitting down. But yeah,

450
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: it's you know that that was very poetic too, because

451
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: you know that arena has also been the site of

452
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: some terrible emotions as well for Joel Embid. I'm not

453
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Speaker 1: sure what we're talking about, but so this was ah

454
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: never heard of there. There was a lot of significance.

455
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: This was game two. So this is the difference between

456
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: it being a two two series and the three one series. Um,

457
00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: this is the same arena. Where Kawhi Leonard with the

458
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: fade away falling out of bounds jumper the bounced fourteen

459
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: times in the heart of Joel Embiad and Sixers fans.

460
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: So it was it was cool for him to have

461
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: this moment. So that that was not in the dock,

462
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: I had to add that one. So the thing that

463
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: was in the dock was Thad Young making Joel Embead

464
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: fall down like he was on skates. The thing that

465
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: was not was the amazing shot, the awkward celebration. That

466
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: was one of the things I loved about it is

467
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: that he has not thought through what like cool thing

468
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: to do after hitting a game winner. He's just jumping

469
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: around like a nine year old who just opened and

470
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: sixty four on Christmas morning in the nineties, just jumping around,

471
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: just just pure joy. And then also has done away

472
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: with throwing punches in the air, which I think is

473
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: better for the health of him and everyone around him.

474
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Speaker 1: Since there there have been moments where he like fist

475
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Speaker 1: pumps and it comes within like uh an inch of

476
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: like ending the game because because somebody's faces right there.

477
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: Uh so, I I love it. I loved this moment.

478
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: Uh it put me in a good mood for three

479
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: days in a row. Yeah, so Jack, do you love

480
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: this moment? I wasn't clear on that part. It was

481
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: the touch feathery soft, It was spider Webbiley so right,

482
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: which is a spider web drifting in the breeze. Truly, truly, truly. Again,

483
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: I like the diversity of clips that we talked about

484
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: on the show, um because it gives us moments like this.

485
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: On one hand, Jack, you had to gather yourself to

486
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: to watch that young put Joel Embiid on roller skates

487
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: and then that gave you the emotion you responded, you

488
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean? That was game one, Jabari in

489
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: game two is Jack saying, well what about this play? Really?

490
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: It was a test. It was a test because remember

491
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago we all agreed we were going

492
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: to go into this and you know, essentially cheer for

493
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: other teams other in our own. So I just want

494
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: to I want to see how that right? Right? Exactly right?

495
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: Could you hand out some roses right there with that? Like?

496
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: Does that mean that we can't even talk about when

497
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: one of our teams has the defining game winning shot

498
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: of the playoffs so far we just leave that out?

499
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: Is that so we're going, Okay, I guess you got

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00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: a point. Yeah, you've been making content alone a lot

501
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: longer than I come. I mean, come on, I mean

502
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 1: come on, guys. Yeah, you're gonna sound like that one

503
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: guy Bobby from the other sports podcast. I never heard

504
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: of it. Uh So I also want to talk about

505
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: the Nuggets and one Nicola the joker Yoki, because they've

506
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: had a rough go because they're playing the Golden State Warriors. Yes,

507
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: and with six Man of the Year Steph Curry down

508
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: oh three, exactly down oh three, they put together a

509
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: gutty win um in which he made the perfect pass

510
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: for the game winner, which is what he's been doing

511
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: all season. He also predicted. So they they pulled him

512
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: for defensive reasons and also I think just to like

513
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: give him a little extra gas on the offensive end. Um.

514
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: But he was from the bench telling the players who

515
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: remained in the game, the Nuggets who remained in the game,

516
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: exactly what play the Warriors were about to lob over

517
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: the top, Yeah, and they intercepted the lab then he

518
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: came back in through the perfect pass. And we we've

519
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: had on here for a while. Yoki just passing this

520
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: season is one of the coolest things I've seen anywhere

521
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: in basketball. Like he has these bounced passes or outlet

522
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: passes that seemed like they're traveling around people's legs or

523
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: just like passing through their bodies like their force ghosts.

524
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: It's or it's like the timing of like it's the

525
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: equivalent of like those like um, those like optical illusion

526
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: things were like, focus on this thing in the room,

527
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: and they're like, I bet you didn't notice there were

528
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: nineteen bears in the background playing hop scots because you

529
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: were focused on this. It's like the timing of his

530
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: passes is like the same equivalent of those kinds of exercise.

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Speaker 1: We're like, well, that's not that's not an angle, that's

532
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: not a passing angle, or that's not the moment to

533
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: pass the ball. And then he exploits that with a

534
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: mastery that we've you know, not really been able to

535
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: see some for some time. The outlet passes. Let's start

536
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Speaker 1: with the outlet passes. Here, real quick block shot his

537
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: second look off, where again the look off is so

538
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: complete that he throws it right through the hands of

539
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Speaker 1: an opposing audacious because this speed is not moving out

540
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: of inhumane like I could barely keep up with where

541
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Speaker 1: the ball was. It's just a quick no I'm looking

542
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: over here, and I was like, okay, but no, no, Look,

543
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: he's not a good passer for a sinner, he's a

544
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: great passer. He's a great general. Yes, his feeling for

545
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: the game is that of like one of the great

546
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: point guards. It's absurd. Yeah, when we were talking about

547
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 1: Mellow a couple of weeks back with Roy Wood Jr.

548
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: Like that they're passing reminds me like when Mellows at

549
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: his best and throwing those passes that again feel like,

550
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: you know, why how are they not getting picked off?

551
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: But it's because nobody saw them coming except for the player.

552
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: Those two remind me of each other. But Mellow is

553
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: like a point guard who you know, his passing was

554
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: the most heralded thing about his game. And Yogich is

555
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: also putting up you know, and ten all right here,

556
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: This one is um he he gets a pass in

557
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: the in the high post and immediately I think this

558
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: is the one where he immediately throws it over his

559
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: head without having looked behind him to see that they're

560
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: as a teammate there or where the opposing players are.

561
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: It looks like again a move I would have tried

562
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: after seeing the Harlem Globe Trotters for the first time

563
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: as a kid and trying to do something like that

564
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: in the game, except I would have just threw it

565
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: out of bounds and like, what was that? This couldn't convert?

566
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: They put the placement of that as well. You notice

567
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't just can't you just hit him. He throws

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00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: it to a location where only he could have caught

569
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: it the fingers on his on his back for those

570
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: who aren't watching, he catches it, kind of looks over

571
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: one shoulder and then gives a second where he's looking

572
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: in front of him, and then throws it directly over

573
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: his head, like you know, like somebody who's never played

574
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: basketball before, and it's just giving up um, right, But

575
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: and it goes within one inch of the three defenders

576
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: between him and his teammate that he's passing it to um.

577
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: But because the timing is so perfect, is like one

578
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: of those like Aaron Rodgers passes where he drops it

579
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: into like one square inch that only his receiver could

580
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: get it. But he's doing it without looking over his head. Um.

581
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: And when you watch it in extreme slow motion, you

582
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: notice that like the ball will pass over a defender's

583
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: head and then like his reflexes will catch up and

584
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: he'll like put his hands up, but it will have

585
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: just passed over his head. So again like just a

586
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: level of having having figured things out that um, I

587
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: don't know, it seems in human like he has that

588
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: thing when I'm talking about Lebron, Like I think Lebron

589
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: when he has the ball in his hands is making

590
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: It's like a chess computer that like knows every single

591
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: angle and is thirty moves ahead, like he's always making

592
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: the right play. And I feel like Yo Kich is

593
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: doing that too, and it's it's wild to watch point

594
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: he's doing it like it like half speed for NBA players,

595
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: Like he's just like just methodically plowed along and got it.

596
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: Feels like like me playing with like older uncles or

597
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: cousins who like weren't as fit, but they were smarter.

598
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: They're like, I've played so much more basketball than you.

599
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: Watch me just face my chest in this direction and

600
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: you're going to be completely disoriented when I'm start, you know,

601
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: just throwing no looks and things like that. And you know,

602
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: I really, like I really enjoy watching him because his

603
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: he's such a cerebral player, and he's playing in a

604
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: way that feels like he has like his own way

605
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: of playing. And like even to that point of the

606
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: him calling out that lob that Austin Rivers ended up intercepting,

607
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: and he said it after the game, He's like, you know,

608
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: we watched so much tape and he's like, I could

609
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: just see the shape and I knew what was going on.

610
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: And I think the fact that he's so so in

611
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: like intuitively already doing all that kind of analysis all

612
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: the time and his you know, real asymmetrical passing is

613
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: just it really put throws people off. And I I

614
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: I say this about European players. I really, I really

615
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: think the reason that they're passing is so good is

616
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: from soccer, because that's a bigger sport out there, and

617
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: that's all about predicting where someone's going to be putting

618
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: the ball. They're drawing a defender out by first, you know, rotating,

619
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: like a lot of those A lot of those fundamentals

620
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: apply to basketball, but we see them in different ways.

621
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: Like I feel like pal Gasol really brought that to

622
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: the Lakers too early on, and I was like, wait

623
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: a second, and this is like coinciding when like the

624
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: Spanish national team was doing very good in soccer. I

625
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: was like, no, this all makes sense, Like the fluidity

626
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: of passing is people are using different parts of the

627
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: brain when they're coming from Europe. Yeah, there's another pass

628
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: we'll put in the foot notes for this episode where

629
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Speaker 1: he throws it again at a weird angle that travels

630
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Speaker 1: all the way across the court. And it's also not

631
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: clear like how his arms are making the ball move

632
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: because the passes, like is this such a strange angle?

633
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: It's like sort of a side arm like behind him pass.

634
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: But again it just leaves the defenders looking like my

635
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 1: kids chasing a butterfly because the ball is right there.

636
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: There's like one more time, one more time, joker, I'll

637
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: get it this time. You're not gonna get me. Like

638
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: even more demoralizing than getting dunked on twelve times in

639
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Speaker 1: a single game. More demoralizing than eating up twelve dunks

640
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Speaker 1: and not getting locked down nom nom nom every time dun.

641
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: He's like, this dude is so weird. Why to keep

642
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: so that's your kitchen. It turns out he's pretty good. Yeah,

643
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: but passing like does feel to me. I don't know

644
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: about you guys, but it feels to me like it's

645
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: just getting better and better. They're shooting from deeper. People

646
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: talk about that a lot, but the passing is just

647
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: like some of the passes are so dope and next level,

648
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: and like it doesn't make sense with the conscious mind

649
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: how they knew to do that. If it has to

650
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: do with I mean, obviously there's still one on one play,

651
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: there's still plenty of isolation ball, but there's less and

652
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: less of it in more motion offense. I wonder if

653
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: it has to do with that. You know, players and

654
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: teams just simply having to pay more attention to detail

655
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: when it comes to those things. Well, the players are

656
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Speaker 1: becoming more and more complete, you know that We're seeing

657
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: these big men with like soft hands can just have

658
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: a ridiculous vision. I can only imagine what that's gonna

659
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Speaker 1: do down the road, because we're inherently just kind of

660
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: like the sport is evolving because we're not we don't

661
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Speaker 1: see like kids developing. Me like I'm gonna learn to

662
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Speaker 1: do this one thing really well, It's like no, I

663
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: want to. I want to be as complete as I

664
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Speaker 1: can be. Homebren, He's coming out he's coming out this

665
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Speaker 1: year in the draft. You seven ft three or seven

666
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Speaker 1: ft four, like you guys ball skills can do everything

667
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Speaker 1: on the court. I agree with you. Um, alright, let's

668
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Speaker 1: take another quick break and then we'll come back and

669
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Speaker 1: talk about some some mic dups and we're back. Um,

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Speaker 1: and before we get to favorite miked up moment of

671
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Speaker 1: the week, Jabar, we do like to ask our guests,

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Speaker 1: as you know, well, what's the craziest thing you've ever

673
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Speaker 1: seen somebody do on a basketball court? Honestly, over the years,

674
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Speaker 1: there have been so many things, but I'll say my

675
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: favorite of the crazy things was it came on a

676
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Speaker 1: play I think from the two thousand three season. If

677
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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken where it's on, it's it's on an

678
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Speaker 1: inbound or he's taking the ball out. He throws a

679
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: length of the court pass the Kobe, who catches it

680
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Speaker 1: in stride, goes around the back with it, and then

681
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Speaker 1: there's like a one eight on top of a denvernck.

682
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Speaker 1: I don't reven remember who the who the guy was right,

683
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Speaker 1: being able to do all of that at the same

684
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Speaker 1: time when one fluid motion is probably the craziest thing

685
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Speaker 1: I've seen. Again, since we love making comparisons to other sports.

686
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: That's like catching a like hail Mary pass but then

687
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Speaker 1: still having to put it around your back and then

688
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: do a three sixteen all in one motion with the

689
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: defender right there in your grip. Right. Because Jabari, you

690
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: grew up in l A. I'm from l A. We

691
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: very quickly we're like, okay, we're both from the valley.

692
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Speaker 1: We started talking. We're like, wait, what what do you

693
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Speaker 1: wh where did you play? Who? Who do you know?

694
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Speaker 1: What have you seen? And very quickly we realized that

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Speaker 1: there are parts of the valley where we may very

696
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Speaker 1: well have been in the same place at the same time.

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Speaker 1: And I guess what's interesting. I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: right because I respect your basketball pedigree or acumen and

699
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Speaker 1: that you do know the valley. Is there a basketball

700
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Speaker 1: culture in the San Fernando Valley and what has that? What?

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Speaker 1: What have you seen by being in the valley playing

702
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Speaker 1: basketball without a doubt? So, for one, back in the day,

703
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Speaker 1: the tars and a recreation center adult league, all types

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Speaker 1: of the former players or you know, guys that were

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Speaker 1: playing overseas and all types of actors that actually had

706
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: some games, you know, they used to play in that

707
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: but in particular, you know one that we that we've

708
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Speaker 1: shared the same experience that do you remember the old

709
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Speaker 1: Jeaneste the park days where I'll be honest with you,

710
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Speaker 1: out there, for instance, you might have Shack and Pete

711
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Speaker 1: Rose watching you play basketball, and in out of nowhere,

712
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: Brian McKnight will come up, like like, so there was

713
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Speaker 1: one you know, I can remember a Saturday night Brian McKnight.

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Speaker 1: Brian your mind that Bran no time, Yes, that branding

715
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Speaker 1: Knight out the buckets. Yeah he made them. Yeah. You

716
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Speaker 1: know what he did? Did you keep scoring for us? Yeah?

717
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: Keep scoring? Exactly know what he did was he came

718
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: up to a park where there were four games waiting,

719
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: and he said, who's got next? I told him me.

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Speaker 1: He offered me five bucks, and I said, I think

721
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Speaker 1: I'm good man. I'm not gonna wait. I'm gonna wait

722
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Speaker 1: an hour and head Also, Bryan, aren't you Brian McKnight,

723
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Speaker 1: you're giving me five dollars. I'm just saying, let's negotiate.

724
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Speaker 1: I'm just here. But Janesta Park was the you know,

725
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Speaker 1: at least at the time when we were coming up.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's definitely did you ever catch the eye

727
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Speaker 1: of any of these luminaries who were courtside, That's what

728
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Speaker 1: I was saying, Like there there were well, for one,

729
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: as crazy as it sounds, Shack was there on a regular,

730
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Speaker 1: semi regular basis, like at night just he would roll

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Speaker 1: up at ten thirty, eleven thirty at night, sometimes even

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Speaker 1: twelve o'clock. But there was one night in particular, and

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, we we determined it. This was

734
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Speaker 1: the time where we were in the same space at

735
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, twenty for knowing one another.

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Speaker 1: Where the example I gave wasn't a joke. Pete Rose

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Speaker 1: and Shack we're watching and critiquing us play. I'm I

738
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Speaker 1: don't know why, but I chose to dive for a ball.

739
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: This is an outdoor port, you know, asphalt. Pete Rose

740
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: loved it so much he stood up and shot, gave me,

741
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: you know and chat, gave me the you know, the

742
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Speaker 1: Arlie Hustle and a big Shack Diesel thumbs up. That

743
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: took like, yes, I would get that. I mean, those

744
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: are two people with some of the most famous diving

745
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: onto Like obviously you know Pete Rose, Charlie Hustle, just

746
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: you know, he he revolutionized the sliding game. Right head first,

747
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: just reckless and then Shack had that one. I mean,

748
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: he's a he's had a couple but when he would

749
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: just slide across the court and nothing was stopping him

750
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: because he is he's pretty big. Yeah, so yeah, I

751
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: had my Shack and Pete Rose moment. I mean, I

752
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: know why you just dove on that court. You were

753
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: inspired that, like had you not dive on the court.

754
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: But that's that's very cool. Like I'm also a madman,

755
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: so like it was one of those where I just

756
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: didn't think about it and say, oh, well here, yeah

757
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: bad man. You know a lot of injuries from reckless diving,

758
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: but hey, it happened. Yes, it happens. There are a

759
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: couple of clips like you you pulled um once again.

760
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, big fan, also great at calling out like

761
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: when a young player is going to be good that

762
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: you pulled out this clip from November where he played

763
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: against NBA Rookie of the Year Scottie Barnes, and somebody

764
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: was like, what do you think of Scottie Barnes, And

765
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: he just had here. Let's play the clip. Actually, it's

766
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: like very just clear and concise and a great description

767
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: of Scotty Barnes, he tell me what he saw from that.

768
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: In terms of this competitive sport, will you know, I

769
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: think it's rare. I mean, you got a lot of

770
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: guys who love to compete and love to win and um.

771
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: But what's more rare about Scotty Barnes is his i

772
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Speaker 1: Q for the game, his length, um, you know, his

773
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: enthusiasm for the game. All of that stuff shines bright

774
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: when you watch him play, and you know, you can

775
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: tell you just want to be there for his teammates.

776
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: He makes he makes winning basketball plays. But I think

777
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: a lot of young guys in the league had that

778
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Speaker 1: competitive fire. But he has something a little extra as

779
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: far as just seeing the game a little slower, you know,

780
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: And that's rare for a guy. How does he nineteen?

781
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: I mean, she's you know, he knows that I played

782
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: the right way and he's only gonna get better. Honestly,

783
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: beyond him having a clear eye for talent, I appreciate

784
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: that he just gives it up, you know what I mean.

785
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that other NBA players don't do that,

786
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: because you do see you do see that. But Kevin Durant, considering,

787
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, he's literally an all time great. He shows

788
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: you know, he shows the new players, the old players.

789
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: He shows everybody the same amount of love if you

790
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Speaker 1: if you basically, if you're a Hooper, you you're you've

791
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: got a You've got Katie as a fan. Not really

792
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: do appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, it's I think. I mean,

793
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: but I think that comes with like the great players

794
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: who know they're great, they have no they have no

795
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: issue with watching the game progress past the things that

796
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: they could do, you know what I mean, Like, I

797
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: think they're okay, Jack's poet faces sometimes sometimes I'm talking

798
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: about you know, but I'm saying the that is a

799
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: sage like wisdom that comes with it putting your ego aside.

800
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: Now that's its own thing obviously, but I think you

801
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: can only arrive at that level like where Durant is

802
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: giving it up like that because he understands that things evolved,

803
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: that things change, that he also has his own level

804
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: of skill and talent that he possesses and is able

805
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: to identify that and doesn't have to be like, well

806
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done this or this and a thing.

807
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: He's like, wow, that's cool, Okay, wow, okay, you know

808
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Speaker 1: it's like it. It feels like he feels good that

809
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Speaker 1: he sees the game being put into the hands of

810
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Speaker 1: people that he also feels respected and are going to,

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Speaker 1: you know, push it forward. Yeah all right, well that

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Speaker 1: has been another episode of Miles and Jack. I'm mat

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Speaker 1: boostiees in the books. Jabari, such a pleasure having you

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Speaker 1: on Mike. Where can people find you? Follow you here?

815
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Speaker 1: You all that stuff. The pleasure is truly mine to

816
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Speaker 1: be on the mic with two legends, Um Jabari Davis

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Speaker 1: NBA on Twitter A k A Joelian beat the biggest

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Speaker 1: fan the easiest place. Again, I appreciate the opportunity for

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Speaker 1: you know it was mentioned earlier, but make sure you

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Speaker 1: check out NBA Finals File. Episodes will drop each Tuesday

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Speaker 1: and Thursday. It's with myself and Robert Ry and basically

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Speaker 1: it's me fan boying with an all time great about

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Speaker 1: the greatest moments in matchups and finalist. I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: a better person to like pair Robert Ory with who

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Speaker 1: has like the wits about them to pick that brain.

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Speaker 1: Uh so, y'all definitely check that show off for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Miles, where can People find You? Just at

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Speaker 1: Miles of Gray and uh check you know, Jack and

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Speaker 1: I always doing the daily Seitgeist. You don't need to

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Speaker 1: know about I'm just I'm just nobody. I'm just in there.

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Speaker 1: They might anyway, yeah, or you know, come on unleasure

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Speaker 1: R A y though, and you can find me on

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Speaker 1: appreciate it if you would go rate, review, subscribe to

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Speaker 1: that I have Matt boost these But I think I

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Speaker 1: think we need more reviews and ratings. Please. We need

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Speaker 1: you all to comment in the reviews. Writer us a

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Speaker 1: review because right now Dan get Zurich is only talking

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Speaker 1: about how many times he dunked on Jack, So we

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00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: need to offset some of those reviews with people saying

844
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: it sounded like Jack actually gobbled up those dunks every

845
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Speaker 1: time and you came like hungrily yeah with his green

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Speaker 1: gobbled up those America runs on duncan Ye. All right,

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Speaker 1: we will be back next week. Thanks guys. Bye,