WEBVTT - Sex Raft! 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.600 Ridiculous Crime is a production of I Heart Radio. Hey 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:07.000 Elizabeth Done Saren, I got a question for you. Yeah, 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:11.719 you know what's ridiculous, I do it. Okay, remember when 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:18.520 I was telling you about Applebee's lip gloss. It's still ridiculous. 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:24.840 But I found another food product crossover ridiculous thing, another 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.520 lip gloss. No, well, I'm going to tell you about 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:31.320 Velvita right now. At one point they did have Velvita 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.519 nail polish, but that's not what I'm talking about. The 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.920 processed cheese. Yeah, it was like cheese scented nail polish, 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:39.200 But aside from that, that's not what I'm talking about 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:42.520 is holding your nails underneath your nose. They invented the veltini, 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:49.440 the Velvita Martini. It has Velvita infused vodka, olive, Brian 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:53.240 and vermouth in it and it's garnished with a cheese 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:58.280 drip and a cocktail pick of Velvita stuffed olives and olives, 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:02.440 olives and jumbo Velvita shells and cheese. Don't you normally 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:06.000 have to go to a doctor if you have cheese dripped, Yes, 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.160 you do, and it's very important if you want to 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:13.640 get one, you have to go to a b LT steakhouse, 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.759 which is apparently some chain of steakhouses. They can lettuce 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.600 tomato steakhouses. I guess you have to order it in 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:24.760 person in their happy hour, which they call their Golden Hour. 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.080 So you can go to there's one stop. There's one 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.240 in New York, one in d C, one in Charlotte, 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:36.880 and then in Chicago down. Yeah, go to Charlotte. If 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.919 you're not at any of those places, you can actually 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:43.839 order an online kit from gold Belly for fifty bucks 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:48.000 that The kit includes two martini glasses, a gold cocktail shaker, 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:52.280 to Velvita coasters, a jar of olives, cocktail picks, a 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:56.440 box of Velvita jumbo shells and cheese, Velvita cheese sauce 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.760 to infuse the vodka, and rimmed glasses, and a Velvita 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.720 brick to stuff all of in a vl teeny recipe card. 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.960 Historians take note, this was when we took the turn. Yeah, 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.080 so apparently it was a lot of people lost it 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:13.520 on Twitter and what have you. But yeah, so that's ridiculous. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.840 I think of, in all honesty, if somebody served you 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.840 a Velvita teeny, right and they said, hey, Elizabeth I 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.880 made this for you. Would you earnestly and honestly try 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.280 it and say, let's see how this is. I would 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.720 chug it and then go running the road. It's one 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.200 of those things you'd probably like smell like like you're 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.680 in a kem lab and you waffed the air towards 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.680 your face first, and then you're like, all right, then 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:40.960 you take a sip, and then I think that's the 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.360 dividing line of humanity of the people who are like, 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.520 you know what, this is actually pretty good, and then 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.080 the people who just start dry heaving, like I've always 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:49.839 wanted to know it a chemical platin hack and stack 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:56.120 New Jersey tasted like but cheese martini an alcohol together, 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.360 I mean vodka and cheese, just like maybe for solid cheese. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.359 I'm with the I'm like, freezing to death in the 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:07.040 Siberian forest, doll eat cheese and drink. That's your only 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:11.840 consideration of Velvet Tina's Velvita teeny. Yeah, I'll put it. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.639 I'll put it in a go bag for an emergency 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.600 rock out. So that's ridiculous. Oh that that's a good one. Yeah, 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.760 thank you, I have one for you. Oh you do. 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.040 I don't know if it reaches the heights of Velvita 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.680 teeny probably probably not. It's got I got two words 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.800 for you, sex raft. Oh boy, Yeah, if you had 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:31.320 to guess, what do you think those two words mean 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.600 when used together? I honestly don't know, but I will 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.760 say that here's the thing. Is that what when we 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:42.120 do these stories, we know like a title or kind 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.280 of like the basic subject of what the other person 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.840 is going to talk about. But this isn't scripted. I 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:48.800 don't know what you're gonna say. You don't know what 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.760 I'm gonna say. Um, But we do have the big 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.680 board here at Ridiculous Crime h Q, and we have 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:59.360 all these index cards with show ideas on them. And 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.600 I've been the past. Yeah, I've been seeing one for 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.200 a long time now, dead center that just says sex raft. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.160 And I didn't know what it was and I didn't 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.800 put up there, so I didn't touch it. And okay, 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.400 so today's the day, right, yep? If the raft is 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.680 a knocking, oh wait, the rafts are rocking? Is that 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:39.320 how it goes? Anyway? I don't come a knocking. This 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.920 is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:52.040 Heists and cons It's always murder free and ridiculous. Elizabeth, 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.880 I take you through the seventies often. I've got one 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:57.880 more story for you for the seventies. You'll have to 0:04:57.920 --> 0:04:59.640 forgive me. But I saw this one and I just 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.680 got I was like, I have to just finish off 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.040 my trifecta of seventies insanity. I'm here for it. Okay, 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:09.480 the years and this is when anthropologist Santiago Genovese had 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:14.200 a revolutionary idea. Nor so he thought. Now as an anthropologist, 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:18.000 he concluded that if you wish to understand violence in society, 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:22.240 and you should start with his most obvious observation. But 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.240 yet when he felt was integral to understanding violence in society, 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.880 and I quote, most conflicts are about sexual access to 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:35.240 ovulating females. So he decided that obsessive female ovulation was 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.440 the key to world peace, not women's menstrual cycles, but 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:42.000 rather the fight between men for access and the controlling 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.280 of access of the to them. Rather, Santiago's big idea 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.479 was to find a way to counteract this male tendency 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:48.960 to violence. And he's like, you know, we just have 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.479 to work out this access to female ovulation. But he 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.320 didn't say, like, oh, ladies, you need to like bend 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:55.760 to the boil of men. He's like, no, that's not 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:59.480 the easy answer. I've got a better answer, sex raft. So, 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.400 like Noah, he built an arc, except for instead of 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.680 taking two of each animal, he decided he'd build his 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.279 arc and invite ten young attractive strangers to join him 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.760 for a boat ride across the Atlantic Ocean. Worst reality 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.000 show ever? What are you talking about? A sexy slow 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.880 boat to Mexico, which for him intends sexy and strangers 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.560 sound it's reality TV before they even never thought of 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:26.280 reality TV. Now, this anthropologist is he He is a 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:30.120 real like professor. He's at the university in Mexico. He 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:31.960 has twenty years of experience in the field. He's not 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.320 some fly by night grad student trying to make a 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.760 name for himself. This is a guy who's thinking this 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.560 will be the answer for world peace. Like he earnestly 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:43.040 believes this. And he had also already taken a scientific 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.720 trip across the Atlantic before. This was where he got 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:48.719 the idea. And he's like, I can emulate that success. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.680 I could top that right now. The Atlantic journey that 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:53.520 he had been on before it was with thor hired 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:58.839 all you're familiar with Thor hired all. So Cone Tiki 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.279 was where they'd make an a ship or a ship 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.159 according to ancient designs, and he tries to sail it 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.159 across the Pacific to show that Micronesians could contact people. 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.440 He then did it again with the Atlantic, trying to 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.680 connect Africa and South American show that people in West 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.640 Africa could easily make that little jaunt across to basically 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.520 the bubble of Brazil, right and as the currents go there, 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.360 it shouldn't take too long. So he gets a crew 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.360 of anthropologist in him, seven dudes, and they set out 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.960 in a boat made out of papyrus, and they go 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.120 from the African coast of Morocco to South America. On 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.800 day fifty four, the boat sinks in the Atlantic Ocean 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:37.960 because they didn't have any ovulating women exactly, so they've 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.440 gone about three thousand miles. Right. So a year later, 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.520 Thor and this most of the same crew, they try 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.760 again with a boat called raw To. The first one 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:46.920 was raw one notes raw To. They try this time 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.000 they use a boat made by the Imato Indians of 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.280 like Tittycock on South America, and their boat works. It 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:57.160 makes it fifty seven days across the Atlantic, proving with 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.440 physical evidence that a trans atlantic journey like this could 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.480 have been undertaken by people in West Africa, possibly by 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.840 people from South America going back, showing that they had 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.560 the technologies right. So, based on this scientific sense success, 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.680 Santiago the anthropologist is like, I'm gonna take my own 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:16.560 boat trip. And for his trip, he's like, I think 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.840 you know that whole thing of like we had a sale, 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.239 we had like paddles, that was making it too easy. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:25.320 I want to raft, no engine, no sales, no paddles, 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.960 just a platform bobbing and floating across the Atlantic Ocean, 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.080 and on board, I want a dozen or so young 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.400 and attractive strangers with me. And by the way, we're 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.240 going to film it all in eight millimeter. So he 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.080 had cameras aboard too. So I guy said reality before 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:46.440 TV before there was reality. No no sale, no paddles, 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:48.760 They're just gonna float on. The current is to take 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:53.959 between sixty nine days, between ninety days and days between 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.920 basically three to six months. That's how long they just charted. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:02.119 No Santiago understands that some people may think it's unethical 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.840 for a forty nine year old professor to include himself 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:08.000 on a transatlantic journey with a bunch of young, attractive strangers. 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.360 But Santiago he was ready for that. He's like, look, 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.840 I I see where you're coming. And it's not just 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.079 about hookup culture. Although he wouldn't have said that. He said, 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:20.240 and I quote, the most anti ethical thing I know 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:23.160 is the fact that a man dies every twenty second 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.560 at the hand of another man in an act of violence. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:29.600 To discover and investigate these things, it is necessary to 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:34.760 be more flexible concerning our concepts of what professional ethics are. 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.679 The problem concerns are survival. So he's like, look, we've 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.560 got bigger fish to fry. Don't get on me because 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.920 I got these ten, twelve, sexty strangers with me on 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:49.840 my boat. I'm trying to end World War. Don't sweat me. So, 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.760 of course things did not go well. Realize you would 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.360 not be hearing about it here. So you may be 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.720 wondering a few questions, is right off the bat. Imagine 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.959 many questions, like for one, who pay for this sex raft? 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.040 That's a great question, right off the bad That's the 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:04.959 question I asked. And turns out it was a Mexican 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.920 government what government paid for it? And they paid for 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:13.520 it through a Mexican government funded television network. Well, yes, 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.319 all I get to say is what exactly? So it's 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.840 a federally funded study. More federally funded science. Now, second 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.959 question the pops in mind. Why would a professor with 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.400 a reputation of like his. You know, he's got clout 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.440 in the field, he's got twenty years experience, why would 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.840 he risk all of that on sex raft? Because it's 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.480 sex raft. I don't know, you know, it sounds like 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.760 maybe something happened and he went a little bit over 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:41.600 the edge. Boom, Elizabeth spot On. Can you guess what 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.480 happened that pushed him over the edge? Did he get 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:48.440 a divorce? That's another good solid. It's like a midlife crisis. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.120 I'll give you a hint. We're in the super crime seventies. 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:58.520 Was he on a plane that got Remember I told 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.880 you they're out wild and Ramino and folks are always 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.600 hijacking planes. Well, like, it was so bad. Some pilots 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:06.040 would get hijacked twice in the same year, right, So 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.560 it was so bad that when it would happened, people 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.280 were be like, Okay, we're getting hijacked. I mean, it 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.600 was like people getting bugged. I was reading the other 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.480 day that It's like there was one a month basically exactly. 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:16.760 So it was like, you know, it's like if you 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.959 had a friend who lost a catalytic converter. Today, you're like, oh, here, 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.680 that happens. That was basically plane hijacking in the seven. 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:25.280 But the other thing I read in the article was 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:28.160 that only one person died in that whole long stretch. 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.600 It wasn't a violent thing. They were after the power 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.000 of the having the leverage. They didn't really want to 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.280 kill people. So that's why, in a lot of ways, 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.400 why it was allowed to persist. Right, So dude was 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.480 on a plane that hijacked. Yeah, so Santiago, he's on 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.280 a flight to Mexico City and he's going home. The 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.120 plane gets hijacked and redirected to Cuba. So now he's 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.440 not cool and he's sitting there going like, oh man, 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.640 this is not good. You know the reason why he 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.240 went from I'm on a plane going to Cuba too, 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:56.719 I need to have a sex raft. It was a 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:58.960 little bit of a jump, I admit. That's an interesting 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.640 trauma response exactly. So there is a documentary called The 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.480 Raft by filmmaker Marcus Lindean, and I highly recommended if 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:08.280 you liked this story. He goes into great detail and 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.200 you can learn a lot more about it right now. 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:15.000 The surviving participants as visit the trip and they speak 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.360 about what they endured, and this doc and includes all 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.839 these notes from Santiago, And in one of the notes 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.839 he recounts and I quote it all started with a 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.600 hijacking In November nineteen seventy two. I was flying home 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.240 into Mexico City from a psychological conference on the history 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.440 of violence when suddenly a group of terrorists took over 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:33.760 the flight. It was too good to be true. I mean, 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.640 imagine the irony me, a scientist who had spent my 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.800 whole career studying violent behavior ends up in the middle 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.920 of a hijacking drama. All my life, I've wanted to 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.360 know why people fight and really understand what is going 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.480 on inside our minds. When the hijacking was over, I realized, 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.200 if I could create a similar situation, it would be 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:57.199 the perfect laboratory to study human behavior. But where can 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:00.319 you isolate a group of people and expose them to danger? 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.600 Then I had an idea sex. Sex gonna make your 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.800 sex sex, right, you gonna make you wet. You have 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:10.840 to keep in mind this is during the Vietnam War, 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.200 right does that part of the quote, No, that's me. 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.679 I added that the music part, that's me. So keep 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.000 in mind from background context, this is in the middle 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.920 of Vietnam War. Everybody's really worried about. We have carpet bombing, 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:26.600 we have like just horrific scenes on the news. Uh. 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:28.600 There's also been renewed fighting in the Middle East. We're 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.400 about to see the yam Kapoor war kickoff. There is 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.760 Pinochet has just let it. It was about to lead 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.320 a coup in seventy three down in Chile. So you 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.920 have all this this tension around the world. You have 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:42.800 the neoliberal school of economics going around fomenting like, uh, 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.520 you know, new governments and juntas according to their idea 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.960 of like oh, yes, we're gonna do proxy wars with communism, 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.520 and Milton Friedman's telling everybody, yes, this is the path 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.600 of freedom. So all this tension, right, and there's economic 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.439 violence and physical violence and it's all culminating and he's like, oh, 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.040 how do we get through this exploited a violent phase 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.520 in history, and he's like, sex raft. That's the answer, man, 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.520 I need to build a sex raft, invite ten strangers 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.480 from me for a cruise, and so that would fix it, 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.439 all right, Sure, so I say that all of this. Now, 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.320 keep in mind, technically no criminal charges were filed in 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.479 this story, but this did happen in you know, international 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:25.000 waters where there is no coptical But in this case, 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.280 the captain is the law, and the captain in this 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.640 case is basically the guy running them. Yeah, so you 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.760 can well on the international waters, no one can hear 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.760 you scream. No, that is very very true. So after 0:14:35.840 --> 0:15:00.600 this short break, we'll climb aboard the Journey of sex Raft. Okay, 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:04.040 so it was the press who called this boat sex raft, 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.960 like Santiago going around and going, hey, guys can hop 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:08.680 on a sex raft. I thought it like a little 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.840 flag sex right, just like two people like doing like that, 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:14.960 is it a beast with two backs? Like that's the 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:19.560 flags top. I'm sorry, so Santiago, because it sounds like 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:23.520 something you'd see like on lake have a su someone 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.440 with a homemade raft of a sign that is sex raft, 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.360 And everyone's like, kids, don't look over, no, no, no no, no, no, 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:33.239 they're turning their hands over the eyes of the children. Yeah. Well, Santiago, 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.840 he called his boat something far more demure and pastoral 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.520 and lovely, something that you would probably like. It was 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:44.240 a colleague, which means home on the water is nice. Nice. 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.640 So he decided to make this home on the water 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.160 the opposite of how life is on the land. He 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.880 on his sex raft would be in charge, but not really, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.920 he would make sure that women would be in charge. 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.840 So he decided he would hire this Israeli woman as 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:58.760 the ship's doctor. He hired his French woman as the 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.560 ship scuba diver. He hired like he basically wanted all 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.200 the lowly task to go to the men and all 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.440 the power positions to go to women. He just flipped it. 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:11.360 How big is this raft, oh girl? About by six ft? 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.440 I'm like, legitimately thinking like six by eight, you know's 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.320 there's a lot of people hear that. But twenty one 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.840 by six ft is like two bedrooms, two big bedrooms 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:25.720 put together essentially just and there are no walls. There's 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.280 a cabin on the center, so imagine a platform, but 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.000 like a flat like rectangle one by thirty six, and 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.960 then there's a like a like a tough shed in 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:36.080 the middle, kind of like a tough shed, yeah, raised 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.640 with sloped walls, and it has like a cabin area 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.240 and then there's a roof that you can also go 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.200 on top, so it's kind of like two levels of 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.440 the roof is not very big. And then there was 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.240 like a helmsman's area in the back where there's the 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.880 tiller and to steer the boat. And because that's pretty 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.680 much all that, they have this very simple rut and 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.080 you know they didn't but they can't power to me. 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.640 They can't power. They can go back and forth you 0:16:56.640 --> 0:17:00.200 want to, like just not gonna. It's just basically to 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.000 help them steer out of the way of the shipping lanes, 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:03.640 because if they get into the shipping past, the big 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.440 supertankers will just crush them. And I see them, they'll 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.359 just be chumped from Thank you, ireated that clarification. So 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.880 Santiago he has his dream. He's like, the women will 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.000 run my sex rst. So he says, and I quote, 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.080 I wonder if having women in power will lead to 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:20.800 less violence or more Maybe men will become more frustrated 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.280 when women are in charge and try to take over power. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.080 So he's like ginning up everything with like setting up 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.600 situation after situation in terms of his analysis that it's 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:34.480 the women's fault either. The melication is always this is 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.560 hinged on women, and we have to we can control 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.480 women or negotiating women better. You see right through the game. 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.240 But you know, he has a certain machismo he is. 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.280 He's from Mexico, so he has a little bit that 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.359 that Spanish language machismo where he's thinking about things. And 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.679 you'll hear it later on in quote I'll tell you 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.000 he thinks of them so very much as a man, right, 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:57.159 so women should be women. So there's this really hard dichotomy. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:00.359 He does not have like a spectrum of people for him. 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.520 There are two types of people. So anyway, so the 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.400 captain of his sex raft is a woman. Santiago travels 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:10.320 to Sweden to personally meet Maria Bjornson. So she's a 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.240 professional Swedish sea captain, one of the first women to 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:17.359 become a professional sea captain. Now the idea initially sounds 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.639 ludicrous to her. She is a legitimate professional Stampton. So 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.080 she's like a raft with no power, no sales, nothing. 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.360 You just got and you got oh ten sexy strangers, 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.760 and you go on, is there food on this ten 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:34.679 sexy strangers? And you always he's exempt from there. This 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.800 true descendant of Viking culture. She signs on for this adventure. 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:39.760 She's like, you know what, it's like, I'm a megababe. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.359 Everything that's wrong, I'm doing it though. So for the 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:45.720 rest of the Chris Santiago asked for volunteers. He's like, 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.600 I got enough budget for this one. So he plays 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.919 his ads in international newspapers all around the world, and 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.520 his respondents they see this ad and here's the add 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:55.760 I'll read it to you that you were opening the 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.560 newspaper in you know, New Delhi and you're saying, oh, 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.200 what what is on the paper? Oh? I need a job. 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.080 Expedition leader looks for volunteers to sail on a raft 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:09.919 across the Atlantic. Duration three months. Males and females preferably married, 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:14.840 but participation without spouse, age forty Write letter in details 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.520 curriculum Vita to box zero three seven eight A. The 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:22.600 times applications will be kept confidential. He wants them married, 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.880 but they don't bring the spouse yes, because he wants 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:26.760 more conflict. He wants them to be able to have 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:31.400 something that's restricting their choices. This is so chaotic. Yes, 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:35.960 that would you apply? No? So wait and does he 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.879 didn't ask for a head shot. He's going to be 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.560 like a tasteful nude or you know, give me your 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:47.399 in your undy things. He uh, he does? I mean, like, 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.879 so he's going to verify sexiness in an interview. Yeah, exactly, 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:52.959 he'll He'll take care of that in person, got it. 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.520 He needs to be in the room with that. I 0:19:55.560 --> 0:20:00.640 can't process how chaotic. Hundreds of people apply. Hence strangers 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.320 are selected out of the whole planet. The whole planet. 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.480 I mean it was. It wasn't like the newspapers and 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.040 it's like in the want ads and it's under expedition later, 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:10.160 so like you had to keep all this in mind. 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.760 So the people he gets to come from different ethnicities, nationalities, 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.800 socio economic backgrounds. But at the time, the press summed 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:18.960 this up a little bit differently than I'm summing it up. Now. 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.679 Here's how they described it. Quote the raft. This is 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:23.879 from a U p I wire service report spread all 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:27.199 around the world. The raft, expected to drift across the 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.000 Atlantic at about two miles per hour, will carry two Jews, 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.160 an Arab and African, one black and one white American, 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.800 a Swede, a Greek, a french Woman, a Japanese, and 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:41.480 Uruguayan and Genovese. That's how his presses pitching it like. 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:45.520 It's like a box of crayonic crayons of people. It's 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.639 like a Benetton ad that like is walks into a 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:52.080 bar joke exactly. So it's not telling those goals you've 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.159 noticed is to make this toll trip about it is 0:20:54.200 --> 0:21:00.000 difficult and as dangerous as possible, fraught with tension, racial dynamics. 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.879 Anythink he can do to make people like be likely 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:06.080 to like come to blows right. And so these ten 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:09.560 fortunate strangers they meet at the dock and less Palmas, 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:12.880 Spain in the Canary Islands on May eleven, nineteen seventy three, 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:14.879 they all load onto the sex raft and they will 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.479 spend the next three months together on this boat. That is, 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:22.680 as you asked Santiago. He's planning, also, by the way, 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.640 to collect data for his semi weekly questionnaires, which will 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.720 feature questions like to whom do you feel the closest too? 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:31.439 And why who annoys you the most on the raft? 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:34.520 With whom on the colleague have you had sexual contact. 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:36.720 If you could get rid of one of the others, 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.879 who would it be? This is like this is like 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:46.199 a high school bully girl quiz that she hands around class. Wow. 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:51.080 So yes, less ethics. Did they make sure that he 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.000 did he try and make sure they are all diagnosed 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:57.760