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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of I Heart Radio. Hey

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Done Saren, I got a question for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what's ridiculous, I do it. Okay, remember when

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Speaker 1: I was telling you about Applebee's lip gloss. It's still ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: But I found another food product crossover ridiculous thing, another

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Speaker 1: lip gloss. No, well, I'm going to tell you about

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Speaker 1: Velvita right now. At one point they did have Velvita

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Speaker 1: nail polish, but that's not what I'm talking about. The

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Speaker 1: processed cheese. Yeah, it was like cheese scented nail polish,

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Speaker 1: But aside from that, that's not what I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: is holding your nails underneath your nose. They invented the veltini,

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Speaker 1: the Velvita Martini. It has Velvita infused vodka, olive, Brian

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Speaker 1: and vermouth in it and it's garnished with a cheese

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Speaker 1: drip and a cocktail pick of Velvita stuffed olives and olives,

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Speaker 1: olives and jumbo Velvita shells and cheese. Don't you normally

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Speaker 1: have to go to a doctor if you have cheese dripped, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you do, and it's very important if you want to

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Speaker 1: which is apparently some chain of steakhouses. They can lettuce

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Speaker 1: tomato steakhouses. I guess you have to order it in

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Speaker 1: person in their happy hour, which they call their Golden Hour.

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Speaker 1: So you can go to there's one stop. There's one

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Speaker 1: in New York, one in d C, one in Charlotte,

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Speaker 1: and then in Chicago down. Yeah, go to Charlotte. If

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Speaker 1: you're not at any of those places, you can actually

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Speaker 1: order an online kit from gold Belly for fifty bucks

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Speaker 1: that The kit includes two martini glasses, a gold cocktail shaker,

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Speaker 1: to Velvita coasters, a jar of olives, cocktail picks, a

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Speaker 1: to infuse the vodka, and rimmed glasses, and a Velvita

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Speaker 1: brick to stuff all of in a vl teeny recipe card.

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Speaker 1: Historians take note, this was when we took the turn. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so apparently it was a lot of people lost it

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and what have you. But yeah, so that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I think of, in all honesty, if somebody served you

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Speaker 1: a Velvita teeny, right and they said, hey, Elizabeth I

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Speaker 1: made this for you. Would you earnestly and honestly try

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Speaker 1: chug it and then go running the road. It's one

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Speaker 1: of those things you'd probably like smell like like you're

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Speaker 1: dividing line of humanity of the people who are like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, this is actually pretty good, and then

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Speaker 1: the people who just start dry heaving, like I've always

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Speaker 1: New Jersey tasted like but cheese martini an alcohol together,

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Speaker 1: I mean vodka and cheese, just like maybe for solid cheese.

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Speaker 1: Siberian forest, doll eat cheese and drink. That's your only

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Speaker 1: consideration of Velvet Tina's Velvita teeny. Yeah, I'll put it.

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Speaker 1: I'll put it in a go bag for an emergency

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Speaker 1: rock out. So that's ridiculous. Oh that that's a good one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you, I have one for you. Oh you do.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it reaches the heights of Velvita

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Speaker 1: teeny probably probably not. It's got I got two words

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Speaker 1: to guess, what do you think those two words mean

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Speaker 1: when used together? I honestly don't know, but I will

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Speaker 1: say that here's the thing. Is that what when we

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Speaker 1: all these index cards with show ideas on them. And

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Speaker 1: so today's the day, right, yep? If the raft is

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Speaker 1: is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers.

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Speaker 1: Heists and cons It's always murder free and ridiculous. Elizabeth,

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Speaker 1: for a boat ride across the Atlantic Ocean. Worst reality

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Speaker 1: many questions, like for one, who pay for this sex raft?

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Speaker 1: Was he on a plane that got Remember I told

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Speaker 1: hijacking planes. Well, like, it was so bad. Some pilots

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Speaker 1: counting on you, God speed, go where no man and

423
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: women have gone before without having sex. They all stood

424
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: on the shore like a single two dropping down their cheek.

425
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. The sex Raft is going to be in

426
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: and out of radio contact, and so they're suppose they're

427
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: scheduled to get a weather report every couple of days

428
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: over the radio when they can make contact, and they're

429
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: also once a week when when Santiago can make contact,

430
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna give a general status update and relay some

431
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: of his notes and so forth. So they're gonna be

432
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: literally on their own for days at a time. Nobody

433
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: will know where they are in the world. Are they

434
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: like fishing and stuff. Yeah, they're gonna have to collect

435
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: food from the from the water, so they they'll be fishing,

436
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: they'll be dragging. They have a plenty of food to

437
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 1: make it the thirties. How do they get fresh water.

438
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: They have fresh water, they have all the they are

439
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: provisioned for the trip, but they are still going to

440
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: be fishing for extra protein and so forth and fresh

441
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: fresh meat. So trying to meet the crew, right, yeah, defently. Okay,

442
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: So we have already met Santiago Genovese Tatazaga, who is

443
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 1: the forty nine year old Mexican anthropologists captain of this

444
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: and Captain Creeper. Then there's also Captain Maria Jorne Stump

445
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: from Sweden. She's thirty years old. She's the first female

446
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: press appened. Then there are four men on the raft.

447
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: There is Jose Maria Montero Perez. He is a thirty

448
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: four year old Uruguayan UH former student of Santiago. Then

449
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: they're radio operator Charles Anthony. He's thirty seven years old.

450
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: He's a Greek Cypriot. And there's Aisuki Yamaki. He's a

451
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: twenty nine year old cameraman from Japan. He speaks only

452
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: Japanese and UH a smattering of Spanish. Then there is

453
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: Bernardo Bungo. He's twenty nine year old from Angola. He's

454
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: also a Catholic priest. A Catholic priest on board, because

455
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: why not because being Mexican. He's like, this will up

456
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: to tension because they won't want to get sex in

457
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: front of the priest. Everyone else is like really, and

458
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: if the priest will have sex with people, it's the

459
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: whole thing. Yeah, So Santiago and Vice the priest because

460
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: of the sexual tension, and they tried to get the

461
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: priest to like get involved in the sexual tension and

462
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: none of it goes well. Now for the five women participants,

463
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: there are two scientists aboard. We have a Rashida Manzani.

464
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: She is a twenty three year old from Algeria. She's

465
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: going to conduct a study on ocean pollution right. And

466
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: then there's servants a note. She's a thirty year old

467
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: from France. She's the ship's frogman or the scuba divers

468
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: gonna do any repairs on the steel understructure. Then there's

469
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: Edna Jonas. She's thirty two years old. She's a Czechoslovakian

470
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: resident who's living in Israel and she used the ship's doctor.

471
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: Then there's finally the two Americans picked for their racial complexities.

472
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: There is Faye Evangelina Seymour. She's one of the youngest members.

473
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: She's twenty three years old. She is a black woman,

474
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: and she is the ship's radio operator. Then there is

475
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: the American white woman, a mother of three named Mary Gidley,

476
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: who is thirty six year olds old and responsible for

477
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: navigation and running from her husband who had tried to

478
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: assaulter or killer basically, and so she's on the trip

479
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: to get away from him, and so she leaves her

480
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: three kids with the husband. So, now that we've met

481
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: everyone aboard the ship, Elizabeth, I'd like to close your

482
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: eyes and picture. I don't want it. I do not

483
00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: want to take this. It's Mayo are climbing aboard the

484
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: a colleague a sex raft. Now you've signed on as

485
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: this ship's cruise director. And as you poured the sea,

486
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: spray is wetting your face, The wind is blowing your

487
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: hair about, The sun warms your shoulders. The journey you've

488
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: waited for his finally here. Excite it palpable as the

489
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: sound of the seabirds above you. And as you gaze

490
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: at of that wide expanse of watery blue that'll be

491
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: your home for the next three months, you decide to

492
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: dip into the cabin and see what's going on inside.

493
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: You are the cruise directors, so you know, get to

494
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: know the rest of the girl. At the hatch. You

495
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: can hear Captain Maria on the ship's radio, your new boss,

496
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: and then it's cruise ship director. You're like, let me

497
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: go check what's up with the ship's vibe. I'm gonna

498
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: meet my boss. So you clock her vibe and you

499
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: notice it seems a bit Off'm like, what's up? A

500
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: home girl. She's talking on the radio with her boyfriend

501
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: Off and he's on the tug boat that is currently

502
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: telling the sex draft out into the open ocean current.

503
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: Now soon you will be set adrift to float across

504
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: the Atlantic. This is your last contact with society and civilization.

505
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: And over the radio, the boyfriend Olaf. He sounds worried.

506
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: He's really focused at the moment on the legal paperwork,

507
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: and he's had time on while he's on the tugboat

508
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: to actually read over the contract Maria was asked to sign,

509
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: and all Off is a little worried, like very worried.

510
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: You can hear the concern in his voice. You're like,

511
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like a person who is chill. And

512
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: over the radio static you hear him saying, nobody looked

513
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: through the contract, which seems to be a slave contract. Really,

514
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: it says that you should give up your body, your

515
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: mind and everything to Santiago, is that a method of

516
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: a scientist? No, what do you think about it? Tell

517
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: me the truth. You watch she grabs the radio and

518
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: she responds to him, No, it wasn't written anything about mind.

519
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: And you look at Maria, You're like, wow, she's cool

520
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: as all hell, unflappable, personally slipping through the contract that

521
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: I just signed, like oh no, no, no no, no, no, no no, no,

522
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: no no no no, mind and body, mind and body.

523
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: So she's over there suppressing this little rebellious smile. She

524
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: knows something she either. It seems that she's down for

525
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: the adventure. But oh, he's unswa. He's just like freaking out.

526
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: He's like, it was about the mind and about body.

527
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: You should do whatever he wants to at any time.

528
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: That means you, as captain, might get in trouble with him.

529
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: And Captain Maria looks at you. She rolls her eyes

530
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: and she's piped whatever. She pressed the button on the

531
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: radio and she's like, you know what I think about

532
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: that paper? I didn't sign it? Oh love, asked her.

533
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: One of the sign Wait, wait, do you want to

534
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 1: stay on the raft? Then she's like hmm, and you're like,

535
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to stay. I'm busy

536
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: putting on the snarkle. I'm getting ready to jump. So

537
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: you're literally now holding You're waiting like unbated breath through,

538
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 1: waiting to see what she want to say. And then

539
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: you're here, Captain Maria. She holds the button down to

540
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 1: the radio and she says, I'm going to stay on

541
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: the raft, and you're like, what she wants to take

542
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: the adventure. Meanwhile, you grab the radio from her. You're like, oh,

543
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: bring the swing old and he does this told he

544
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: swings to talk about over you were able to hop

545
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: off the sex raft. They throw the rope back over

546
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: and the tug boat says good luck you and the

547
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: tug boat go back to civilization as sex raft glides

548
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: into the scene. And I lived happily ever after two

549
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: reasonable people. So you dodge that very very sexy bullets. Well, sorry,

550
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: I have to wonder why did you get off the raft?

551
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: Because I'm not I don't trust Santiago in the legal contracts.

552
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: You gonna trust these sex ten sexy strangers not a lick. Okay, well,

553
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: then I'll just tell you what life is like on

554
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: the sex raft without you. Okay, yeah, I'll hear about it.

555
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. For one, he's got a

556
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: lot of rules, which is, you know, whatever it's to

557
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: science experiment, there's going to be rules. He insists that

558
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: there's no reading, no reading of books, and no nobody

559
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: brought magazines, but no reading of books. Right, So what

560
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 1: they are allowed to do to entertain themselves for the

561
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: endless hours aboard this sex raft is they are allowed

562
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: to sing songs or to tell stories from their own lives.

563
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: Oh that sounds great a right, So this is the

564
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: idea is for people to get board and then do

565
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: either become annoyed and get violent or to like find

566
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: deeper parts of themselves. You got me there in like

567
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: five minutes. That's why I had to bounce out of

568
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: that boat. So I kind of want to hear people

569
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: singing and telling me there's there's stupid stories. Oh yeah.

570
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: And also, by the way, in the first few days,

571
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: people are just vomiting everywhere. They're getting just puking on

572
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: each other. It's just it's a horrible scene. People are

573
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: like heads over the side of the boat most of

574
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: the first couple of days, because you know, not people

575
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: who are used to the seat. To Maria born some

576
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: she's like cool with everyone else is like they're all

577
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: in their sexy bikinis, all sunburn and puke and they'll

578
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: thank you. And as I told you, they have to

579
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: stay on out of the shipping lanes. So that's the

580
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: big fight, right, So they're worried about supertankers where they're

581
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: floating along. So there were like like the heads over

582
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: the side they're puking and looking for supertankers. Those are

583
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: the first two days on sex rafts right now. For

584
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: the bathroom, mind you, they have this little area where

585
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: you can kind of like I wondered about that, but

586
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm so gross. It's like kind of like you know,

587
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: like the front like the prows of some boats. They'll

588
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: have like the little area where you can stand as

589
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: like like a you. So they have like that, but

590
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: it's off the side of the raft. And this in

591
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: that little you there, they have like a platform and

592
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: you could sit on the platform and do your business.

593
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: And then for like men's treating women, they get a

594
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: little worried about the sharks in the water because you're like,

595
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting up here a bloody target, just dripping

596
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: a trail for these people. So yeah, so the women

597
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: they have to do that three months, so that's three

598
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: cycles are going through at least animum. Anyway, that was

599
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: they're worried about. You know what, I don't want to

600
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: keep going. Now you may be wondering, Saron, but what

601
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: about all the sex on the sex raft? No, it

602
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: was not that. Are they hitting it, Zaron? Elizabeth, I'm glad. Yes,

603
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: yes they are hitting it, but like, yes, but where

604
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: do you like one to three people go to have

605
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: sex on a sex raft? You know, it's twenty one

606
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: by thirty six ft right, and they got ten ten

607
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: people with them at all times. So where do you go? Well,

608
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: you can wait till nightfall and you go on top

609
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: of that little like rooftop on the cabin starting hear

610
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: you banging a way up top. Or you can go

611
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: like hang out by look onto the walls and pretend

612
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: like you're vomiting or they're you're holding their hair. The

613
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: other one is that the you can if you're the helmsman,

614
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: if you have the rudder and you're alone at night

615
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: you can like you got one hand on the rudder

616
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: and the other hand on your lover, and then they

617
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: make that one work. In fact, Edna of the Israeli doctors,

618
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: she tells the story. She says, quote for me, it

619
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: was not about love, it was about friendship. It was

620
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: complicated to have sex on the raft because other people

621
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: could always see you. Well, maybe if two people are

622
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: on guard together and you were a little quick, then

623
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: maybe it was possible, but it was tricky because you

624
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: had to use one hand for steering. So she was

625
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: out there hit while she was still on the s

626
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: s urinary traction section. So following all these sexy tropes

627
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: of the day, men all agreed that the French woman

628
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: was the sexiest, and the women all agreed that the

629
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: Uruguayan scientist he was the hottest man aboard. So there

630
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: was his consensus on who, if they were having sex,

631
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: who they'd want to be knocking boots with, which made

632
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: some problems as well. Santiago knows all of this because

633
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: he's asked them who would you want to sleep with

634
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: on the questionnaires, So he's gonna start poking at that

635
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: scene if he can like prime things to get things going. Now, Meanwhile,

636
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: as this raft is drifting across the sea, the captain

637
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: begins to hate Santiago, like just literally despise him. Right,

638
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: and this is not lost on Santiago, he records in

639
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: his notes and I quote today during dinner, Captain Maria

640
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: asked me in front of the whole group, what I

641
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: really want to achieve with the experiment. Everyone got silent

642
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: and waited for my answer. I told her that I

643
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: want to find a way to create peace on earth.

644
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: She just rolled her eyes and looked away. Yes, yes,

645
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: but he does also start to get what he wants,

646
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: because now violence is starting to rear its ugly head.

647
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: So this all happens when a the folks on the

648
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: raft they pull something out of the ocean that changes

649
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: who all of the humans are and in a relationship

650
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: to each other. After this little break, I'll tell you

651
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: what they pulled from the sea and how this crazy

652
00:33:51,080 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: sex rapt journey comes to a wild culmination. So, Elizabeth,

653
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: you got free of the sex Raft. Everyone else is

654
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: still on the boat rocking their way across the Atlantic,

655
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: and now they've dropped their line into the sea and

656
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: about that will change everything. So what happened is one

657
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: of the dudes was fishing and he caught a shark

658
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: and he pulls the shark aboard. This triggers like a

659
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 1: blood lust because he decides that he needs to beat

660
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: the shark to death, which is often what happens when

661
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: you have a shark on board. You get a wooden club,

662
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: you hit him in the head a few times. But

663
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: he does this and then it gets a little extra

664
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: and then the other people they all also get a

665
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: little keyed up. Right, And I quote from Santiago's notes. Look,

666
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: he said the heart is still beating. It was like

667
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: turning on a switch. Suddenly everyone wanted to feel the

668
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: flesh that was still warm him with life. Finally here

669
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: it was the violent behavior that I've been waiting for.

670
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: But to my surprise, it didn't come from sexual jealousy

671
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: or from conflicts between the participants. Instead, we witness a

672
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: clear example of crowd frenzy, where people no longer act

673
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: as individuals, but as part of a dangerous collective. That's

674
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: the lord. Yeah, Piggy's about to get it. So so

675
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: this though, is the only flash of violence that he

676
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: really gets to see on his boat. That was it.

677
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: They get their one little flash. They get a blood

678
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: lust up. He gets to see the potential for the

679
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: group violence dynamic, and then everything just settles down. And

680
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: now they're like, you know, almost halfway across the sea,

681
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh man, what am I gonna do?

682
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: So Santiago is he's getting disappointed with these people. He's like,

683
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: they're they're frustrating my experiment. They're trying to do me,

684
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: so he says, and I quote, they clearly don't understand

685
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do. Instead of supporting me, they

686
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: behave like a bunch of children, and and they're getting lazy.

687
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: No one seems to remember that we are out here

688
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: trying to find an answer to the most important question

689
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: of our time. Can we do without war? So he

690
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: instigates violence. He's the one who brings the violence into it.

691
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: He's like, I gotta go with what I know, what

692
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: I love. So he takes that big button marked emotional

693
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: distress and he just twists it as hard as he can.

694
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: He calls her a ship's meeting and he informs everybody

695
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: got to come to the ship's meeting. They I'll get

696
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: there and he's like, look, things are gonna change, Like

697
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: what do you mean what do you things are gonna change?

698
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: You kicked somebody off the boat and he's like, no, no,

699
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: but you know your questionnaires. Okay, We're gonna play a

700
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: little game today called the Game of truth, and I

701
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: quote I began by saying that Edna has written that

702
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: she wants to have sex with jose Maria, but jose

703
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: Maria has written that he thinks Edna is the most

704
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: annoying woman he has ever met because she talks all

705
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: the time. These feelings can't be hidden anymore. They have

706
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: to stop being so afraid of confrontation and be open

707
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: about what they really feel about each other so that

708
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: I can finally get some material to study. He read

709
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: their diaries like this is now one of the most

710
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: unethical experiments ever, like mean girls on a raft like

711
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: this is Stanford prison experiment with me and girls on

712
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: a boat And he's not done so more controversy. He

713
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: goes after the youngest member of the crew of the

714
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: Black Woman from America Fee. He calls her quote a

715
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: primitive and a thief and lazy in order to see

716
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: if calling her black stereotypes will set her off. No,

717
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: of course not. She she didn't go for that. She's like, man,

718
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: you think that this I'm from America. You need to

719
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: try a little harder if that's all you're gonna throw

720
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: at me. Right, So, but he's still desperate for results.

721
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: His racism doesn't work, so he's like, what can I do? Mean,

722
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: So he just keeps reading their diaries. He's just doing

723
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: anything he can to foment like anger, intention and aggression. Meanwhile,

724
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: back in civilization, his colleagues have taken to the newspapers

725
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: and they have been anounced him as a total quack.

726
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: So they've written a letter to and it's been published

727
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: in the press around the world. And he eventually hears

728
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: about this over the ship's rand, and seagull comes and

729
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: drops the newspaper exactly right. So during the weekly call,

730
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: he he not mind you, anyone can hear the radio,

731
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: so everybody else, they're all going to get the fact

732
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: that he gets unmasked. So and I quote from Santiago.

733
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: One of the articles is a statement signed by some

734
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: of my colleagues at the university where I've been working

735
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: for over twenty years. They right that the publicity about

736
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: the sex raft is bad for the reputation of the university,

737
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: and from now on they don't want to have anything

738
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: to do with me or my expedition. He's risted all

739
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: for this and he's become basically a failure in his career,

740
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: a total like you know, outcast. And also now he's

741
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: the emotional dictator on a sex raft. So that's good

742
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: on LinkedIn totally. Now at this around this point, the

743
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: radio goes silent, and it wasn't he didn't like break

744
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: the radio. They just is, We're happened to go silent, right,

745
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: So they end up getting lost and they drift out

746
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: of radio contact for four days, and so people are

747
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: to wonder did the sex raft sink somewhere in the Atlantic.

748
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: Planes are sent up into the sky to try to

749
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: find sex Raft multiple days past. Finally, on July eighteenth,

750
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: the search plane spots, Hey, that's sex Raft. So the

751
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: crew is okay, the people wave. Everyone's like, yeah, we're

752
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: still here naked on ship. Not not really, but they're

753
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: safe and they're about to enter the Caribbean sea right.

754
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: And I say they're safe, I mean in that moment

755
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: because right behind them is a hurricane that's forming in

756
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: the warm waters of the Atlantic. Because Captain Maria knew

757
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: about this, she's like real leaving too late season if

758
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: we if we drift too long, we get blown off shore,

759
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: we could have it. And he's like, don't worry, I'm

760
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: from this area. So she's like, okay, I don't know anyway. Satiago,

761
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: when he hears about this coming storm, he's stopped. He's

762
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: totally thrilled. He's like, yes, this is what could be

763
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: the necessary bit to push my experiments over the top.

764
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: Pure So rival man versus nature, humanity versus the sea.

765
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: Captain they have versus the great white whale. He sees

766
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: it all right, and he's just counting it all. Captain Maria,

767
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: She's like, look, I'm taking the sex raft and I'm

768
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: parking it in a Caribbean island, the closest one that

769
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: we can get to. And he's like no, She's like,

770
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: what are you talking about. No, I'm the captain. What's

771
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: he going to do to her? Oh? He says that

772
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: quote from Santiago. If the group comes in contact with civilization,

773
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: it will contaminate the experiment. We need to keep ourselves

774
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: isolated and stay at sea. For the sake of science.

775
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: We must continue, no matter what everyone else is like,

776
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: don't matter, what is my life mother, I would just

777
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: if I'm the captain, I just say I'm the captain now,

778
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: and then I just captain. All right, So I go

779
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: and I parked the boat back. What are you gonna do? So,

780
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: Captain Maria, she's got these ten people counting on it.

781
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: This is exactly what her boyfriend Olaf warned her about.

782
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 1: She was thinking about sex. Now He's like, oh, meant

783
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: my life right. So he's like, but now I'm with exactly.

784
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: You're cool you and aren't your new life together? Both

785
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: of you are like being like logistical, statistical and safe.

786
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: The fine prints you're working on that it's creating that

787
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: hig Swedish life, all coziness. So their lives are in

788
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: the hands of Captain Maria, right, And she's like, Okay,

789
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: I understand what I have to do now. Santiago, as

790
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: I said earlier, He's like no, emphatically no. And so

791
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: I quote once again from Santiago, Maria said she can't

792
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: take that responsibility as a captain. I told her. In

793
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: that case, she is no longer the captain of the raft.

794
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: From now on, I am the captain. So you were close, captain,

795
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: real close. But this is the point the story where

796
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: the feces hits the fans, right, so the science experiment

797
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: is totally off the rails. The sex Raft is about

798
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: to lose all of their lives to a hurricane. So

799
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: what do they do. They batten down the hatches. They

800
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: seal up the sex Raft as best they can. To

801
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: keep in mind, there on a metal square in the

802
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: middle of a her so important to Santiago, most important

803
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: and more important than anyone's lives on the thing, is

804
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: his notes and the camera equipment recording the experiment. So

805
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: he gets those all put in plastic bags and then

806
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: he's like, okay, now we're good. Lock the doors on

807
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: the raft. So because you are there pictures of this

808
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: rat yeah, they're pictures of the raft. I'll put them up,

809
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: thank you, because I need to see because in case

810
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: this this raft sinks, he wants his experiment to move

811
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: on because the answers of world peace. All right, So

812
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: the hurricane is about to hit sex Raft. The skies

813
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: are growing dark, the rains have come, the season began

814
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: to pitch and roll. The storm strikes, and they all

815
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: sit there in silence, wondering what's going to come of

816
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: the rest of their tiny little lives on this vast,

817
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: vast ocean, locked in the metal box with a madman,

818
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: and the hurricane luckily passes over them. They don't get

819
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: the eye of the storm. They get the back side

820
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: of you know, coming from the south. The back side

821
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: is not terrible. Yeah, on sex raft, The backside is

822
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 1: not dangerous. Why do you set these things up? Okay?

823
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: Because because I like you? Thank you. Santiago records in

824
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: his notes that the hurricane must have changed directions and

825
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: only brushed us by the tail. I looked at Maria,

826
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: but she did not look back. Mary has still just

827
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: not given him almost noticed. Now at this point, Santiago's

828
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: mutiny is officially changed everything because the crisis he had

829
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: hoped for, that all the dreams of violence and aggression

830
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: had come to pass, and he's the source of all

831
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: the dreams of aggression. He becomes the crew's whole focus

832
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: of their ultra violet fantasies. And they're sitting there and

833
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: they decided that Santiago is a threat to them. In

834
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: the in the words of a Tom Clancy novel, he

835
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: is a clear and present danger. So they decide we

836
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: may have to kill him. We're like, we're weeks from

837
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: the shore, but we may have to kill him. So

838
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: they have a meeting about it. Now, three of them

839
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: get on top of the roof of the boat and

840
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: a late at night, they talk about explainable accidents and

841
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: like how a person could fall off a boat, and like,

842
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: what would happen if during the next storm somebody just

843
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: fell over one quick and dirty accident, we're all suddenly safe.

844
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: Another on another woman's face, she's like, well, what about

845
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: if we just took all the ship's medicine and we

846
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: just gave him all of it? And I was like, oh,

847
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: They're like yeah, so this is by the way, this

848
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: is Mary the white amer can Fay the Black American

849
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: in Aisuki the Japanese guy. They are the three plotters

850
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: trying to decide to kill him, and they agree only

851
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: speaks Japanese and Spanish. So yeah, they're doing like hand gestures,

852
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: take the needle in the horb, load it up again.

853
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: She's like, quoting from the Murder on the Orient expresses

854
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: like the dream of like we put all of our

855
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: hands on the plunger and we all pushed down together,

856
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: so we're all culpable. And they're like, yeah, they finally

857
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: decide we'll just toss them into the sea. That'll be

858
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: the easiest thing to explain. Nobody no murder, right, So

859
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, they're they're pretty much set on this plan.

860
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: But then they decide, you know what, we still have

861
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: our humanity, consider we are not these people. And then

862
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: they kind of fall back from their plan and then

863
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: times change, and then their murderous desire melts away like

864
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, like that like sand. And then they displayed

865
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: impulse control. Yes, exactly, very important. Santiago never learns about

866
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: his near death by his science experiment because they don't

867
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: put this in the questionnaire. They at the bottom to

868
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: Santiago desperate to kill you. So he does, though, mind

869
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: you end up having a panic attack while he's on

870
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: the boat because he's starting to realize that he's the problem.

871
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: So and I quote, well, if I was a boy,

872
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: I learned that men never cry. We control ourselves. But

873
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: suddenly I couldn't anymore odd on the deck, I thought

874
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: about the experiment. I realized that the only one who

875
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: has actually shown any kind of aggression or violence on

876
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: the raft is me, the man trying to control everyone else,

877
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: including himself, and so he just freaks out. He breaks down.

878
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: He has this total like cascading, emotional like avalanche. And

879
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: at the same time they find out at night this

880
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: run the same time, they've accidentally drifted into the shipping lane,

881
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: and so while he's having his crisis, they see that

882
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: a supertanker is headed right at them. And so it's

883
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: the middle of the dark of night. I got a supertanker.

884
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: They can't see them, and their captain, who is self

885
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: declared he's having an emotional crisis. He should have been

886
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: working through this stuff back home, but instead he draws

887
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: all these people. Okay, keep going his ten sexy strange.

888
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: He's making me get angry, and I'm not an angry person.

889
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: So what do you think he does in the face

890
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: of this emergency, something stupid. Well, he's not at all

891
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: calm in the face of emergency. Instead, he just starts

892
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: screaming and run around the tack of the wrap yelling

893
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: that's what the that's what everyone says that he did.

894
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: He just starts a giant supertanker casing them down, and

895
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: he just screamed. He's just screaming, running around head but

896
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: just kicked him right into the ocean. Yeah, Fay the

897
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: Black American. She runs, gets on the radio and she

898
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: tries to calling the supertanker. The supertanker is no response, right,

899
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: Captain Maria steps in. She's like all right, she at

900
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: the time, she's totally implacably calm, just the exact opposite Santiago.

901
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: She tells the crew get from road flares. They start

902
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: waving road flares over their heads. A supertanker sees the

903
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: road flares and goes into a vase of actions, barely

904
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: misses the basically pushes them off into like the wake

905
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: of its giant exactly, but they live. So she's the hero.

906
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: She's the captain now, so everybody recognizes this, even Santiago.

907
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: So what does he do? He decides, like a former

908
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: cult leader, to fall inside of himself and collapse. Then decides,

909
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: no more note taking, no more meetings, no more games,

910
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: no more any questionnaires. I'm just going to grow my

911
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: beard more about my salt water tan. So he retreats

912
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: to bed. He starts complaining about an infection. People are like, yeah, whatever,

913
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: you got an infection. Doctors like he really has an infection,

914
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: So he like wills an infection upon himself and Peace

915
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: returns to the raft. Everyone now is calm, they're dancing,

916
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: they're singing, they're happy. They're making meals again because they

917
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: have a common enemy, the shunned exile, who has brought

918
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: them all together and they're giving them a group dynamic.

919
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: So he's pushed them into this in group out group

920
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: dynamic that is so key to human society. He finds

921
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: the thing he was and he did it non violently,

922
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: but anyway, the sex Raft finally arrives in Mexico after

923
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: a hundred and one days at sea. It's a strange moment.

924
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: They finally made it to the other side. They all like,

925
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: are so glad to be back on dry land. They

926
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: get off the sex Raff, they spend the night on shore.

927
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: The next day they come back to the sex Raft,

928
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: not because they want to go back on. They don't

929
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: need to get their stuff and meet and say like,

930
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: let's let's have some you know, resolution for what we

931
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: just went through. He's like, oh, thank you guys all

932
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: for coming back to the sex Raff, thank you for

933
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: doing This's like, by the way, I have one last

934
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: questionnaire for you. So then in like an hour's long

935
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 1: hangout session, he has them filled the questionnaires. They filled

936
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: the questionnaires. He apologizes to Maria. He's apparently very calm

937
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: and very kind, and everyone's impressed by it. He asked them,

938
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: what did you think of my experiment? And they're like,

939
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: it was a total failure. This is the worst thing

940
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: I've ever done. And everyone, I guess not everyone. Three

941
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: people say it's a total failure. Ultimately, though, um, the

942
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: majority of them say it's a success because they learned

943
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: things about themselves, they learn things about humanity, so forth

944
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: and Faye, she said it's a huge success, which surprises

945
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: everyone because he was picking on her and they all

946
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: saw it right. And she says, and I quote, it

947
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: was always them and us. We started out as them

948
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: and us, and we became us. And then she pointed

949
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: out something that Santiago had missed, and she said, and

950
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: they quote, I think Santiago's experiment was a huge success.

951
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: But I think he missed it because we could talk

952
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: to one another with sophistication and depth and understanding and love,

953
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: and isn't that the answer to violence? So boom, there

954
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: you go. Sex raft gonna make you sex sex? So

955
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: I think I think Maria won sex raft. Oh yeah,

956
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: she definitely won. She like the reality show Big Winner

957
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: and then fan favorite his fee and I, let's say

958
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: the rest, Like, I have a soft spot for Edna

959
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: because she was having sex while piloting a boat. Now

960
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm just into that. I'm like that, that's cool. Oh

961
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: my goodness. So I asked, what's our ridiculous takeaway? Seculous

962
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: to take play is be careful to kind of want

963
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: as to respond. And also, this is just there were

964
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: so many red flag I think there's a way to

965
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: get the answer that they got without being on a

966
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: sex raft for three monthsout risking the lives of people. Yeah. Yeah,

967
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: I think the the thing I was thinking about, and

968
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: I was reading all these different stories reading on the

969
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: newspaper accounts, is that it was so obvious on the

970
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: face of it, both that it would fail and to

971
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: that no lessons would be learned. People would just be

972
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: hung up on the sex raft part of it. They

973
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: would never really go like, oh, what did you learn?

974
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: What did you find? Tell us about your observations. Some

975
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: people would buy the book, but they would not be

976
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: buying the book because they wanted to read his science.

977
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: They wanted to read the drama, the emotion, the sex.

978
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: So the thing is is that human beings. Ultimately a

979
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: rather simple and that Fee got it right. With our

980
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: group dynamics are pretty consistent. There's in group behavior, there's

981
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: out group behavior. There's wanting to punish the exiles and

982
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: the outcast. We have been doing this for any So

983
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: if you take that dynamic as your starting point as

984
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: opposed to women's ovulation is the key to world peace

985
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: or whatever is his starting point was. And you actually

986
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: look at the observables of humanity as opposed to these

987
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: like ineffables that he's going for, like men want to

988
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: fight over the smell of a woman's ovulation, whatever the

989
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 1: hell science he came up with, then you can actually

990
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: get to something meaningful and which is what feeded and

991
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: and I'm glad they made the documentary because that is

992
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: where you get that quote. So out of all this stuff,

993
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: it is the observation by one of the participants forty

994
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: three years later that really gives value to sex raft,

995
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: A lot of value in the sex raft Make your

996
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,600
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00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,480
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998
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