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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt Miller and.

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Speaker 1: I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is Hot Pursuit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we had a chance to record this from the

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Speaker 2: same studio in the same city today, but I screwed that.

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Speaker 1: No, you didn't it all. You didn't it all. And honestly,

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Speaker 1: I'm not at all surprised that you are not here,

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Speaker 1: and I really don't think you should be. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was really ambitious and possibly crazy that you were

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Speaker 1: going to be here, but I wasn't going to say anything.

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Speaker 2: So you are in New York City? Yeah, First of all,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing in New York City?

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Speaker 1: So I'm in New York because every year, for a

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Speaker 1: few days at the beginning of the year, we have

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Speaker 1: a Pursuits Editorial Planning meeting and we just spend a

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Speaker 1: few days like setting goals and planning our editorial coverages

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Speaker 1: much as we can, and venting and bonding. And we

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Speaker 1: had a big dinner last night with the team. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to Chris Rouser, who's the editor. We have some

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Speaker 1: new editors that we got to meet, and so it's

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Speaker 1: just sort of an annual confab of all of our

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Speaker 1: Pursuits coverage, which includes of course watches and art and

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Speaker 1: food and travel all the fun things and cars of course,

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Speaker 1: so it's fun.

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Speaker 2: I love pursuits, by the way, and I follow now

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Speaker 2: so many of you. I realize on Instagram that I

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Speaker 2: see these things happen. Obviously I follow you, and I

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Speaker 2: follow Chris, and I have ever since I've known you too.

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Speaker 2: But Sarah Rappaport used to work with me in TV Pursuits.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and she's killing it. She Sarah is based in London,

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Speaker 1: as you know, and she's killing it, especially with these

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Speaker 1: really high dollar real estate listings that she goes to

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Speaker 1: see and then she gets all of this very great

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say gossipy because that sounds like

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Speaker 1: it's trivializing it, but really insidery information about these really

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Speaker 1: cool spots. So yeah, she's doing great. And of course

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Speaker 1: Kate Crater does our food coverage and like every every

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Speaker 1: seems to just be in love with her, so she's great.

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Speaker 1: And then James Tarmi of course does our real real

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Speaker 1: other real estate, but also a lot of art and sales,

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Speaker 1: so he's great. And of course Nikki Extine the travels

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Speaker 1: are yes.

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Speaker 2: And I used some of her tips over the last

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks Nikki stuff, and I had an insane.

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Speaker 1: I want to trip, tell me everything.

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Speaker 2: So first of all, I went to a very remote

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Speaker 2: spot in Indonesia and West Papua actually for a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks of scuba diving. And it's my fourth time

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Speaker 2: at this one resort. It's called Missoul and it is

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Speaker 2: my one of my favorite places on Earth, if not mine.

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Speaker 1: You had been there before and I've.

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Speaker 2: Been there for it. Yeah, it's it's the best diving

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Speaker 2: that I've ever seen. And I've dived in a lot

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Speaker 2: of different locations and the Caribbean, in Europe and the US,

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Speaker 2: but nothing compares to Raja Ampat, which is where the

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Speaker 2: it takes forever to get there.

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Speaker 1: How did you get back? Walk us through your return itinerary.

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Speaker 2: So the place is five hours away by boat from

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Speaker 2: take a five hour speedboat to Sarong, which is like.

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Speaker 1: This is going back, this is coming back to the States.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, coming back to the States. Okay, I did the

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Speaker 2: same thing in reverse. So then in Sarong, you've got

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Speaker 2: That's where I used some of Nikki's tips. Cool because

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Speaker 2: they have amazing architecture and hotels and it's such a cool,

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Speaker 2: So it was really fun for me. But the flight

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Speaker 1: So I've never been on a flight that long. That's

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Speaker 2: On the way there, I watched like six movies. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well, just the hotels there are amazing. I mean, some

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Speaker 2: But because it's such a new city, you know, in

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Speaker 2: I just when I go to someplace unusual. For example,

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Speaker 1: I was waiting for the leather jacket.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, these things that you can only get in Tokyo.

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Speaker 2: You know, Clinch boots in Singapore, all the stuff, all

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Speaker 2: like the same store, same brand, Bomber.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah. How was the diving?

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Speaker 2: On another note, the diving was amazing.

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Speaker 1: It was good. What animals did you see?

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Speaker 2: I mean, there are so many fish there. This place

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Speaker 2: So now it's flourishing and the corals alive and colorful

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Speaker 1: That's so cool.

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Speaker 1: You don't look too sunburned.

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Speaker 2: But it was pretty cool. I did see some I

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Speaker 2: was looking around for some strange cars when I was in Indonesia.

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Speaker 2: Stuff that I'd never seen. Like I was riding around

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Speaker 1: Was that an uber or some sort of like yeah, interesting, okay,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty great for utilitarian you know, purpose vehicle.

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Speaker 2: saw revuel to an orange Revoel toe okay, parked next

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Speaker 2: are these hotel cars? Like? Can I take one of these?

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Speaker 2: At first spin? He says, no, These are just local

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, cool, did you see anything?

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Speaker 2: It was four o'clock.

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Speaker 2: No, not really nothing. No. In Indonesia it's mostly you know,

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Speaker 2: Moto GP, which made me feel really home. Even our

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Speaker 2: Mottos because so many Indonesian people watch Moto GP.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So if you disappear ever, we should look for

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Speaker 1: you in Indonesia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look for me in Indonesia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we won't look for you in Indonesia. Perfect. I

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Speaker 1: mean it sounds like you sort of dropped right in

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Speaker 1: and felt really comfortable and at home. That's cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've already made reservations again for twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: You're a kidding me twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So it's like in every other year type of thing.

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Speaker 2: And they're sold out a lot too, so you can

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Speaker 2: that went over the block for a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: But in the story deeper down, uh, you reported on

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Speaker 2: interesting that I didn't know. I'm you know, people who

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Speaker 2: follow this stuff do. But Lewis Hamilton's Mercedes Formula one

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Speaker 2: Mercedes went for basically twice the price of Mikhael Schumacher's Ferrari. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it stuns me.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the sales were like this year, right or recent?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So Hamilton Hamilton sold Is in twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: for Yeah, I mean almost twenty million, eighteen point eight million.

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Speaker 1: But were you saying that you'd rather have Shoemachers.

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Speaker 2: who's better better. I know that Hamilton, you know, is

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Speaker 2: Yes, only one hundred eighty seven miles. That's because he

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Speaker 1: That's what this is. And it's currently at one hundred

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00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: and eighty five thousand dollars. We've got four days left

438
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: on the sale. So jumping on.

439
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 2: Four days left on the saale. Yes, somebody was like,

440
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 2: I think I'll bid one hundred and eighty five grand

441
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: with four days left.

442
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: Don't you want no reserve? No reserve?

443
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 2: True. I asked him about no reserve because I thought

444
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: that's pretty dangerous. At least if it was my stuff,

445
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: I would feel worried about it. Yeah, but he said,

446
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: you know, contrary to what you might think, no reserve

447
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 2: auctions drive more people to bid higher and wait to

448
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: keep paid.

449
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: Who's your friend said that?

450
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Philip.

451
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: Oh.

452
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: I mean he's thought about this obviously. He works very

453
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: closely with a lot of car collectors, and he is

454
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: himself a car collector. See, he gives these things a

455
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 2: lot of thought. Whether you do reserve or no reserve.

456
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,719
Speaker 2: I still would be too scared, soistic, because what if

457
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: the people who want the SL six hundred like are

458
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: diving in Indonesia that week?

459
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: Completely? I mean the other thing is if you really

460
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: need the cash.

461
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: I mean, there you go. I doubt that's the case,

462
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: you know, because it's on his the turtle garage is

463
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: on his horse.

464
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: Farm, so oh oh, you know.

465
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess.

466
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: I'm going to be watching that. I mean I have

467
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: been watching a lot of Rolls Royce sales lately. I

468
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: think I've sent you a few half Yes.

469
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going for a pretty penny.

470
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: They're going for a pretty I mean there are deals

471
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: to be had, There are deals to be had. I

472
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: saw corniche go for a forty thousand, which I thought

473
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: was a good deal. Actually the other day that's a

474
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: good deal for a corniche.

475
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that does sound like a good deal if it.

476
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 2: By the way, I know not to say if it

477
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 2: has low miles now because I keep I keep flusting

478
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: after your nine to nine to one turbo with one

479
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety thousand mind.

480
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, by the way that

481
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: just crossed over, we're probably we're probably rounding down one

482
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: hundred ninety one thousand miles, to be honest, because that

483
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: was last week.

484
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 2: By the way, your experience with that car and your

485
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 2: kind of philosophy has changed the way I, you know,

486
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: window shop for cars on Bring a Trailer, but also

487
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: on Auto Trader or whatever platform I used to I

488
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: used to limit it like I only want a car

489
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: that has less than fifteen or thirty thousand miles. And

490
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: now I'm thinking if it's one owner, yeah, happy to

491
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: have and you want to check that on or was responsible.

492
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: But I'm happy to have something that has high miles.

493
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's a case of read the room, like,

494
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: understand the context of the car. You can't just make

495
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: a blanket statement about that kind of thing. It depends

496
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: on the car, It depends on the make, it depends

497
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: on where and how the car was kept, It depends

498
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: on who owned it. And how they used it. All

499
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: of those things are important, and just the idea that

500
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: you would just say flat out it has to be

501
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: this way, I don't think is using all of the

502
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: information available, I guess I would say.

503
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have any concerns about much on a high

504
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: mileage car like the motor Obviously, if it's been driven

505
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 2: a lot, it's been serviced.

506
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: A lot, and potentially yeah, I.

507
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: Guess the seats are maybe a little squishier than they

508
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 2: were before, but I don't care about that. It's the

509
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: suspension that would bother me. And I guess you get fair.

510
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: You know, of these expensive cars have air suspension that's

511
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: very expensive to replace.

512
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: That's that's totally fair. I guess it just also kind

513
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: of depends on how you want to use it and

514
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: what you're looking for. I admit that I am not

515
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: too too fussy about everything being perfect because I don't

516
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: actually think anything is perfect, and I you know, I'm

517
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: far more interested in using something for fun. If you're

518
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: going to invest in a car, and they are investments,

519
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: no matter what you what, you know you're you're putting

520
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: money toward it, you might as well get some fun

521
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: out of it.

522
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: Last two weeks. I spent the I spent my downtime

523
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: on my diving vacation rereading Zen and the Art of Motorcycles.

524
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: Oh, I need to reread that. It didn't stand up.

525
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: It was good. Yeah, I need to read it million

526
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: years ago.

527
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: It's still so good. I mean, the author clearly was

528
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: had one screw loose.

529
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: I feel like most motorcycle people do, to be honest.

530
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I loved it as kind of a rebuttal

531
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: to what's the name of the guy who used to

532
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: be the editor in chief of Wired and for some

533
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: reason Bloomberg had him write like a guest essay on motorcycling.

534
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: Oh uh, Gideon Litchfield. He had taken it like a

535
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: cross country trip and he was just like, hates motorcycling.

536
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: So I have no idea why he did it in

537
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: the first place. But yeah, he was complaining about the

538
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: Blue Ridge Highway, like of how dangerous it was. The

539
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: maximum speed limit is thirty five and there are no

540
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: other cars on it.

541
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: You know, I will say, that's it's funny you bring

542
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: that up, because we've discussed that story at length recently

543
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: in these past few days. As we're talking about the

544
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: year going forward with pursuits. And that story was part

545
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: of this new thing we have at Bloomberg called the

546
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: Weekend Edition. And the whole point of the weekend edition

547
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: is sort of to take a step back and widen

548
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: the aperture. And you know, during the week we're talking

549
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: about very focused things and focused pursuits. But during the weekend,

550
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, we want to take a step back and breathe.

551
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: And but I'm glad you read it, and I'm glad

552
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: we're talking about it. And that story did very well

553
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: for the weekend edition.

554
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: Well you know why it did well. Why because so

555
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: many people were angry about it.

556
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: It got hate reads, yes.

557
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: And I'm not glad I read it because it still

558
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: makes me feel a little bit sick, like my chest

559
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: is a little bit tight when I think about why

560
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: would someone do something like that, Like a guy who

561
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: just doesn't clearly doesn't understand motorcycling, doesn't enjoy motorcycling. He's

562
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: riding a great bike on one of the best roads

563
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: in the country and he's and he's not and he's

564
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: not enjoying it. He said he couldn't wait to get

565
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: back to a traffic packed highway. That's the last person

566
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: you want to ask to write a story about motorcycling, why.

567
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: Don't you ride a Rebuttal honestly because because that's.

568
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: A great road. I've ridden that run on my two

569
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: thousand and seven Ducatti Monster S fourrs. And it was

570
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: an absolute joy. Took that road down to North Carolina

571
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: where Olans has like its American office, and I got

572
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: the suspension redone and it's like the least dangerous place

573
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: you could ride a motorcycle there. Yeah, isn't anyone else around.

574
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: If you fall off, you're just gonna skid to the

575
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: corner slowly because you know, unless you're doing double the

576
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: speed limit, I don't know.

577
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: I would love for you to ride a Rebuttal. And

578
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: I have to say even I'll take the hate reads.

579
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm glad it got people talking. I'm glad it got

580
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: you thinking and reading something that would cleanse your mind

581
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 1: from all of the anks that you felt when you

582
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: read it. At least it's sparking some sort of reaction.

583
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: That's a good point. By the way, the move to

584
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: video would be a fantastic I know one, not only

585
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: because we could show you know, the uhlen Hout or

586
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: the Streamliner, but I would like to be able to

587
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: show the new Aston Martin Vanquish, which you wrote a

588
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: story about. And I not only did I love the story,

589
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: I love the pictures as well. I love the color.

590
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: I know the color is super nova red and it

591
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: does cost quite a pretty penny to get it. It's

592
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,239
Speaker 1: a hand painted color. And if I'm remembering right, the

593
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: price tag just on the paint chab job alone was

594
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: the thirteen thousand dollars.

595
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little more. I think it was thirteen and

596
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: a half.

597
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: Was it thirteen and a half? Yeah, thirteen six. I

598
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: just found it, Yeah, thirteen six. It's such a gorgeous car.

599
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: And really the takeaway the headline on that is and

600
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: this is true. This is the first Aston Martin that

601
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: I've been in that I felt it was as special

602
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: as a Ferrari. Amazing, and I'll and you know what,

603
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: I actually I said that to somebody and they texted

604
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: it back to me and I was like, wow, it's

605
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: I just said it. I hadn't. It just came out.

606
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: I was talking about the car and I said, you know,

607
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: I felt like it was a special and she texted

608
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: it back to me and I'm like, oh, wow, did

609
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: I say that, and I was like, oh, I did

610
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: say that, and that's actually I stand by that. That's

611
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: the truth. They did it good gosh. It's expensive, you know.

612
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: The one that I drove starts at four hundred and

613
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: twenty nine thousand dollars, starts there, and then with options

614
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: like that thirteen thousand dollars amazing paint job went to

615
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: five hundred and sixty thousand dollars. But it's a great car.

616
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: I think it's the best one we've seen from them

617
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: so to date.

618
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: So the Vanquish was it's only occasionally been available, right

619
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 2: and has it not been available since like twenty eighteen?

620
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: That's that's correct. They've used that name plate a couple

621
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: of times, first, you know, from two thousand and one

622
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: to two thousand and seven, and then again from twenty

623
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: twelve to twenty eighteen. I believe that it's always been

624
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: a V twelve. It's a two seat only coop. One

625
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: of the new things this year is it's they're only

626
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: offering two seats. I think previous iterations did offer a

627
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: back seat. But yeah, I think it's obviously it's a

628
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: great name for an Aston Martin. I'm glad they brought

629
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: the name plate back. I'm glad they're staying with the

630
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: V twelve. I'm sure you are too. Yeah, this is

631
00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: this is using two turbos. Before it was in it

632
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: was naturally aspirated. So that's a bit of a change.

633
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: Doesn't bother me though, Okay, I.

634
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: Was gonna ask about that. Why doesn't that bother you?

635
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: Because it's a GT car and I know I'm not

636
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: getting it with a stick, although they have they have

637
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: the ability clearly to do it, because they've offered a

638
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: few special editions of that mode which they claim are

639
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: sold out with a stick.

640
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: But okay, the Velora and the Valiant.

641
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: But it's it's not like that kind of.

642
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: It's not that kind of car car, and it doesn't need.

643
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: It's very big. This is one thing about really big cars.

644
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: I don't need them to be a stick. I like

645
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 2: a stick in a sports car.

646
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so that's that seems sensible of you. And yeah,

647
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: I think the high notes on this are it does

648
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: feel very special. It is big, you know. Of course,

649
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: we had a park next to a twenty fourteen Turbo

650
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: and it really sort of dwarfs the nine to eleven.

651
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: It makes a nine to eleven look small, and it does.

652
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: It's a little bit heavier, but it's really the ride

653
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: is great. It's it's you know, on Mulholland. Now they've

654
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: put in speed bumps, which is really annoying, but it is.

655
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Speaker 1: It's comfortable on uneven roads. It's not just completely jarring,

656
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: you know, like GT. Three for instance. It's very nice

657
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: to drive. To your point, I thought the interior was

658
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: so much better than previous aston Martin's happened. They're just

659
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: sort of continually improving there, which has been really a

660
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: challenge for them. But I do feel like they're kind

661
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: of nosing no pun intended in the right direction. Now. Yeah,

662
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: and I like that. I like, yes, I like it.

663
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: I think they can definitely lean into sort of that

664
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Speaker 1: signature look.

665
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: I love the look. I saw it at the at

666
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: their sort of sales studio here Q. I think it's

667
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: called on fifty seventh in Park And I mean they

668
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: just had one in a room with a designer and

669
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Speaker 2: I think the engineer with whom you spoke also for

670
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: your story with I'm in Newton exactly. And yeah, so

671
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: I just got to, you know, look at it for

672
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: like a twenty minutes or a half hour, and it's gorgeous.

673
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: All Aston Martins are gorgeous, but it's very special. And

674
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: I wonder what you think about the plate on the

675
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Speaker 2: back you.

676
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: I was just going to ask you about that.

677
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: I would rather have it in a color that's closer

678
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Speaker 2: to the color of the car, or i'd rather the

679
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 2: car in the color closer. I don't like that too

680
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: much contrast, but I think it's cool. Yeah you think.

681
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: I actually I agree with you on that. It doesn't

682
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: bother me to see it, and it's sort of I

683
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: don't want to say two tone, because it's certainly not that,

684
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: but in a high contrast color ways. But I would

685
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: be very very curious to see the car in a

686
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: dark slate gray or something, maybe even a midnight and

687
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 1: have that black carbon shield across the back. That would

688
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: probably look real mean and cool. I do also love

689
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: what they did with the rear, the rear tail lights,

690
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: the how they stacked them vertically. They're like notches kind

691
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: of stacked. I thought that's cool. I like a signature

692
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: tail light in general, for for cars, because you're assuming

693
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: everyone's behind you anyway, So I like that. I thought

694
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: that was cool. I don't know, it just it just

695
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: felt I'll tell you one thing, I was very I

696
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: was a lot less likely to just whip it around with,

697
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, sort of erratically like you may do on

698
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: Sunset Boulevard, because it felt more like a Ferrari. I

699
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: didn't you know, in a nine to eleven you can

700
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: whip things around. It's great. This felt more like, oh,

701
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: I need to be careful, you know. I didn't want

702
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: to scratch any splitter. It doesn't have a lift, it

703
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: doesn't need a lift for the front at all. But

704
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, I was just way more aware that, ooh,

705
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: this is this is a big car. It's got a

706
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: long nose, it's got that front splitter. I saw this

707
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: bright red Camark parked opposite me on Sunset and I

708
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: was like, ah, I needed the photo photo, and you know,

709
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: did not flip around, though in a different car we

710
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: might have. But it was just like, I can't whip

711
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: this around. It's too much of a precious thing. It's

712
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: just it's sort of that feeling that you definitely feel

713
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: seen in it. I don't think it's outrageous though, it's

714
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: it's cool.

715
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's gorgeous. I'm looking at now the pictures

716
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 2: in your story, and I kind of wanted to make

717
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: one of screensaver it's so good.

718
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Speaker 1: Which one is it?

719
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Speaker 2: Just the one where it's parked on the brick driveway?

720
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the front, Yes, it's where I'm looking at.

721
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: And I know this, you know what I mean. Twenty

722
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: grand the carbon like the car starts at four thirty.

723
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: This one was five sixty. The carbon packages alone, I

724
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Speaker 2: think added like forty grand for sure. Price.

725
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: Oh well, the interior carbon package was like over twenty

726
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars. And that's just the interior and not

727
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: all of the interior that's like doors and dash So yeah,

728
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: it's definitely priced up there. And all of this is

729
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: part of Aston's strategy to increase profits and get some

730
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Speaker 1: cash in their coffers. Although I have to say, our

731
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: good friend Steve Sario did point out to me that

732
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Speaker 1: Aston Martin's in the nineties. When you compare their pricing,

733
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: we're really about the same if you're talking exchange rates,

734
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, I think he I'm trying to remember which

735
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Speaker 1: he told me.

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Speaker 2: I will say that the so I'm looking at the

737
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: carbon fiber roof was like five grand. And then as

738
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Speaker 2: you mentioned, the interior package is twenty two, basically twenty seven.

739
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 2: The upper body carbon fiber is another seventeen, so you're

740
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Speaker 2: at forty four, and then the lower body is another seventeen,

741
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: so you're at sixty one, and then another exterior carbon

742
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Speaker 2: fiber package was twelve, So seventy three seventy three grand

743
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: in carbon fiber. That's insane.

744
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Speaker 1: You know what's crazy. It doesn't even look that like

745
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: it's that much on the car. You know, it's not

746
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 1: like the car is you know, nose to tail carbon fiber.

747
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: It's like it looks actually like, oh, pretty classy. There's

748
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: a touch there, there's a touch there, you know. But

749
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's a lot of carbon fiber, but it's

750
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Speaker 1: not like full carbon fiber hood.

751
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 2: It's you know, they really contrive. They what they want

752
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 2: to do is get the kind of margins.

753
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: That Ferrari has. Everyone wants to be Ferrari and.

754
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: That Porsche was aiming for it. By the way, portion

755
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: missed big on margins.

756
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Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about that.

757
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: Because we don't have to talk about it. But it's

758
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: another example of a manufacturer that is going to take

759
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: a huge loss, I think an eight hundred million dollar

760
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: right down this year because of their because of their

761
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 2: exploration of evs, right, And I don't hate all EV's.

762
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: No, and this is a great segue. I know where

763
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: you're going with this.

764
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Speaker 2: I would, I would. I love the Kia EV nine

765
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: for example.

766
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Speaker 1: I love the EV nine and I love the five hundred.

767
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: The Fiat five hundred.

768
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: E me too great.

769
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Speaker 1: And I actually also loved the Rolls Royce Specter. I

770
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: had another that well, you'd love it. You would love it,

771
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah. And I also didn't hate the Dodge

772
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Speaker 1: Charger EV.

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Speaker 2: So and I'm excited to see some like of the

774
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Speaker 2: new E Rev. Speaking of Dodge, you know they're they're

775
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: coming out with one. But all this to say, I

776
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: don't hate all EV's. M hmm, there are some that

777
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 2: I like. And because we got an email from someone

778
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: who said I'm biased against you.

779
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: Now, okay, fair, I want to discuss that. But I

780
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: want to put a pin on this Portia. We've seen

781
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: this unfolding for nearly a year now and it's fascinating

782
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: and I do have quite a large story that we've

783
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: been working on about it. So watch this space because

784
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: by the way, I.

785
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: Keep thinking that, I keep thinking, now's the time to

786
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: buy Portia shares. I would never give investment advice. The

787
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: only time I ever have it was wrong, horribly wrong.

788
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: And I'm not allowed to buy shares in companies that

789
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 2: I report on, so I won't be sure really allowed to. Yeah,

790
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 2: just like all the other things that I want to buy.

791
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: But I keep thinking, Okay, they can't get any worse.

792
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: They're down thirty percent over the last twelve months. They're

793
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: down half since the IPO. If you bought P nine

794
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: to eleven shares of the IPO, you've lost half of

795
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: your money.

796
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: And that was the largest none, that was the largest

797
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: IPO in Germany in like two decades. I mean it was.

798
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: It was considered a wild success.

799
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: And by the way, you know, Barry Ritholts always says

800
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: when you want to buy a product, think about buying

801
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: the stock instead, Like if you want to buy an

802
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: Apple MacBook, right, you should just money stock and you'd

803
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: be doing much better off of Portie, right, because if

804
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: you wanted to buy the stock and instead you just

805
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: ordered a.

806
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: GT three, at least you can drive it.

807
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: You're in the money too.

808
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, or I mean, just hang on in the line.

809
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 1: I would never ever ever count Porsia out those guys

810
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: have this German Schwabian grit and determination, and yeah they

811
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: are down right now, but they are definitely not out.

812
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: You know, I think if you can hold on and

813
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: be patient, we will, Like you say, I guess if

814
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: you could buy stock.

815
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I'm well, I'm not saying you're.

816
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: Not get you know, you're not saying that.

817
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: No, No stock is getting so crushed today because the

818
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 2: margins are only like twelve percent, and most carmakers dream

819
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: of margins like that, right, but they're not the seventeen

820
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: or nineteen percent that you would have hoped at the IPO.

821
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: But so the email, let's talk about it. I'm pretty

822
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: stoked on it.

823
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: Actually, Yeah, so this is from Dean. I guess we

824
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: could say first names. That's safe, right, Dean.

825
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: Thank you for writing on his substack.

826
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Speaker 1: So yeah, what's the substack called Portico.

827
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: Darwin Portico Darwin dot substack dot com.

828
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Speaker 1: Yes, thanks for writing to us. Dean in San Francisco.

829
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: Dean said he loved our podcast, but he doesn't like

830
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: the anti EV bias.

831
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: Which is a fair criticism.

832
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: Actually, do you think it? Do you think we we

833
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: are a little anti EV?

834
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: Yes, we are, and maybe more than we should be.

835
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Speaker 1: I would I would say I was surprised to hear that,

836
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: because I'm all about the right tool for the job,

837
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: and I do not care really what's under the hood.

838
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: Matt cares. Matt cares about his v especially, I truly

839
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: don't care. I I just want good things, and my

840
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: criticism of EV's has just been that there. I just

841
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: haven't seen some good ones. But I have seen a few,

842
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: a few that are good. But it's fair, it's fair,

843
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I found it more interesting that that's what

844
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 1: he's getting.

845
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I just for me, I like

846
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: what I you know, I have my preferences just like

847
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: everyone else. But that doesn't mean I don't think there

848
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 2: are some.

849
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: Really good EV cars completely.

850
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: Including Tesla. You loved the cyber truck, by the way,

851
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: I yeah, I thought it was.

852
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: I thought honestly, I thought it was. I have no

853
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: problem with it, you know, I I thought it was.

854
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: It was a lot better than I anticipated. And I

855
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: loved how and I've said this before, how kids especially

856
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: got so excited about it. And I am a thousand

857
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: percent behind vehicles that evoke an emotional emotional reaction, because

858
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: most of them don't.

859
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 2: I also love I drove the gm SE Sierra EV

860
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: and I absolutely adored driving it. The Hummer EV.

861
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: As, Oh yeah, that was fine.

862
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: Yes, kind of it makes a statement that I don't

863
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: necessarily want to make, but I really enjoyed. I like

864
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: to drive big heavy vehicles in the massive battery two

865
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: hundred killot battery packs. So you and I also like,

866
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: you know, like you mentioned, the Fiat five hundred EV

867
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 2: is such a great little get around.

868
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: Her honestly perfect, perfect thing. Yeah, perfect thing. I thought

869
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: it was just very well executed, priced fairly. I love

870
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: the heritage, of course. I just thought, yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 1: I but I do I will say I don't actually think,

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Speaker 1: and I've said this before, if you want to do

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Speaker 1: the best thing for the world right now, I would

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Speaker 1: just not buy anything. Don't consume, yes to me. And

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Speaker 1: I don't like the idea that we have to consume

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Speaker 1: and buy something else that is not actually green. There's

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Speaker 1: way too much stuff in the world in general, and

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Speaker 1: I just don't like being force fed the idea that

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Speaker 1: you've got to buy something else and consume this other

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Speaker 1: product in order to be somehow quote unquote good. That

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Speaker 1: just is not inaccurate.

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Speaker 2: Totally agree with blossophy, and I also agree with Dean

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Speaker 2: that I'm too biased again and I will try to

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Speaker 2: be less.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to be aware of that. Thanks. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: we loved your letter, Dan, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: We have we got another. By the way, our email address.

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Speaker 1: Is hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to remind our listeners to shoot us

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Speaker 2: emails because we do read them and we find them fascinating.

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Speaker 2: We got one from another guy, Declan, who is looking

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Speaker 2: for Goodwood Revival tips. And I think what we're gonna

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Speaker 2: do is I think what we should do is study

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Speaker 2: a little bit and then report back, report back next week.

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Speaker 1: It's a great question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a great question. And I would

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Speaker 2: I just imagine mister enthusiasts at Goodwood Revival in a jumpsuit.

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Speaker 1: You know, oh my goodness, he'll be so happy to

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Speaker 1: hear his name mentioned. And you know he will be

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Speaker 1: in a jumpsuit, yeah, underneath his raccoon for a coat.

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Speaker 2: If it's a little chilli, he'll be wearing a raccoon

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Speaker 2: for a coat.

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Speaker 1: Which with a watch on each wrist.

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Speaker 2: I'm very much for the raccoon for a coat.

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Speaker 1: Look, you need one, Matt. Why can't we all get

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Speaker 1: one Team Raccoon for a coats.

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Speaker 2: I would definitely wear one for sure.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see that. I'm Matt Miller, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Hannah Elliott, and this is Bloomberg