WEBVTT - Ep 200 Poop Part 1: How the sausage gets made

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>My story about poop is an embarrassing one, and one

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<v Speaker 2>I am comfortable to share, but one that is embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 2>and like a lot of embarrassing stories, it happened when

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<v Speaker 2>I was much younger. I was in fifth grade at

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<v Speaker 2>my first experience of staying away from my parents with

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<v Speaker 2>my school class. It was at an outdoor ed adventure

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<v Speaker 2>in the woods where you do ropes, courses and team

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<v Speaker 2>building exercises and you stay in a cabin. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>being excited for it. I remember having good friends in

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<v Speaker 2>elementary school, and I remember the first day going rather well,

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<v Speaker 2>where we were in the woods, playing outside. The first

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<v Speaker 2>night was a large like sort of cafeteria style lunch

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<v Speaker 2>where we had I don't remember what the food was,

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<v Speaker 2>but I sat with my friends. Everything was rather normal,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we took a long walk to there was

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<v Speaker 2>a planetarium attached to this outdoor ed facility, and we

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<v Speaker 2>were going to see a late night probably like eight

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<v Speaker 2>or nine o'clockanitarium show. And I remember walking with my

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<v Speaker 2>friends talking, and my memory is a little fuzzy at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, possibly for reasons to protect myself, but at

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<v Speaker 2>a certain point during this walk, I think I attempted

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<v Speaker 2>to fart and poop came out, and then poop continued

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<v Speaker 2>to come out, and at a certain point, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what happened in my brain, but I was okay

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<v Speaker 2>with continuing to let poop come out because there was

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<v Speaker 2>really nothing I could do. I was committed to going

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<v Speaker 2>to the planetarium. I was committed to seeing this through,

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<v Speaker 2>and I truly didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>What else to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'd already done the poop and I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was done. So every time a new wave of having

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the bathroom came to me, I let

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<v Speaker 2>it happen. And I remember walking with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>poop in my pants. My pa were jeans, they were

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<v Speaker 2>like tough denim jeans, and the poop was like I

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<v Speaker 2>would describe it as like toothpasting down my leg. It

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<v Speaker 2>was really horrible, but again I wasn't like super disturbed

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<v Speaker 2>by it. In the moment we went to the planetarium,

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<v Speaker 2>I sat next to my friends. I promise I think

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<v Speaker 2>I continued pooping. I remember people smelling it. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>successfully just saying it wasn't me and saying that I

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<v Speaker 2>smelled it too, And then I remember walking back to

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<v Speaker 2>our cabin immediately going to the shower, taking off my

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<v Speaker 2>pants in the shower, attempting to clean my pants so

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<v Speaker 2>that I could put them in a bag that I

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<v Speaker 2>could take home with myself. I remember that shower being possibly,

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<v Speaker 2>at least up until that point, the greatest shower of

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<v Speaker 2>my entire life. And that is the end of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>I did put myself again the next day. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>as obscene or abundant, but it happened again. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it was nerves, if it was something

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<v Speaker 2>about the diet. But that is my poop story and

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<v Speaker 2>I am not proud of it. I think my life

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<v Speaker 2>would be very different had my friends found out, and

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<v Speaker 2>most of them still don't know. But anyway, that's my story.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for brilliant willing to share that.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Erin Welsh and I'm Erin on an update and

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<v Speaker 1>this is this podcast will kill you.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Poop Poop, Poop, Poop Yeah, Part one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we decided to do an episode or two

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<v Speaker 1>episodes about poop without really knowing what they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to be about, and we're just like poop that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like something we would talk about, like it is.

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<v Speaker 3>On on on end, just like continue to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>About yeah, yeah, but we are going to We eventually

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<v Speaker 1>were like, Okay, I guess we'll have to come up

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<v Speaker 1>with topics specific to poop. What do people want to

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<v Speaker 1>know about poop? And yeah, and so here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here we are. So this episode we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about what is in poop, how we make poop,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to go in to a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of like poop in the Animal Kingdom.

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<v Speaker 3>I am so excited and not just like how animals poop,

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<v Speaker 3>but like all of the ways in which we can

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<v Speaker 3>use poop. Yes, exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Poop is a resource. Is how I had originally titled this.

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<v Speaker 1>The second episode was just like poop is gross, poop

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<v Speaker 1>is gross. Yeah, So and next week we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go into yeah, more of poop is gross? And then

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when you can't poop the way that you

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<v Speaker 1>should poop? Talk about it, and I'll talk about like toilets,

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<v Speaker 1>the history of sanitation, just how disgusting ancient Rome really was.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot tell you how excited I am to hear

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<v Speaker 3>about how disgusting ancient Rome was.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I want to hear more about fiber and I'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell you about it. I'm not going to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>that much about parastels.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like the word, just wanted to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to say.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll say it multiple times.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, poop quarantine any time we have that, Actually have

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<v Speaker 1>that completely forgot a while since we've like recorded recorded,

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<v Speaker 1>What are we drinking this week?

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<v Speaker 3>We're drinking drink number.

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<v Speaker 1>Two, drink number two.

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<v Speaker 3>Of all the ways that you can say poop, we

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<v Speaker 3>found that one to be the most charming.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do, I really do like it. It's good,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also a delicious drink.

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<v Speaker 1>It is what is in poop? Or sorry, what is

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<v Speaker 1>in drink number two? Not poop number two?

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you that later. But what's in drink number

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<v Speaker 3>two is basically like a mint chocolate martini situation. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's vodka, there's cremded cacao or something similar to that

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<v Speaker 3>chocolate liqueur Bevermitch knops. You can tell I don't make

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<v Speaker 3>the drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>Some chocolate syrup. You know, it's gonna be all right done.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll post that on social media at least at least

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<v Speaker 1>possibly website if we can get on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, it's been a struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>You just have to follow us on socials, Yes, please do,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you'll see it there.

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<v Speaker 1>And also on YouTube on YouTube because we're here in

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<v Speaker 1>the exactly right studio we are. It's really fun to

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<v Speaker 1>some of that joy with us, please go to YouTube

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<v Speaker 3>Us and we're there. This whole season has been on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been so it's been quite with some occasional

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<v Speaker 1>really fun videos and pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a couple for you today. We do all

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<v Speaker 3>right with some props, with some props also business last

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<v Speaker 3>piece we swear. We're also a website. We do have

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>There's lots. Okay, are we finally ready for number two?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so Aaronka, Okay, we'll take a break and

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<v Speaker 3>get started.

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<v Speaker 1>Poop.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, every time I say the word poop it makes

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<v Speaker 3>me laughs. I know. Poop is the non digestible parts

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<v Speaker 3>of our food, mixed up with a bunch of digestive juices, mucus,

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<v Speaker 3>left off cells from our gi tract, and of course

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<v Speaker 3>tons of bacteria, both living and dead.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean by tons?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'll tell you. Okay, just do you wait? So

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that for the start of this episode and

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<v Speaker 3>this series, really where we're going to be talking so

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<v Speaker 3>much about poop, it feels important and also fun for

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<v Speaker 3>me to go through the process of digestion and learn

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<v Speaker 3>how we make a poop together, How we make a

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<v Speaker 3>poop together, Learn together how we make a poop?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, I prefer that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Miss Frizzle did this on a lovely journey through

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<v Speaker 3>Arthur's digestive tract.

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<v Speaker 1>I still remember this same.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're basically going to take Miss Frizzle's journey through

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<v Speaker 3>our own digestive tract. Along this journey, we might mention

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of places where things could go wrong. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to get stuper into detail on the things

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<v Speaker 3>that could go wrong right now. But if you have questions,

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<v Speaker 3>I know you'll ask them. You know, I know qualms

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<v Speaker 3>about that, no, But mostly I'm going to be talking

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<v Speaker 3>about like the process of digestion, how we make a

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<v Speaker 3>poop so that we know really what is in our poop.

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<v Speaker 3>And the next week is when we'll talk more about

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<v Speaker 3>how things can go wrong with a digestion and poop

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<v Speaker 3>poop manufacturing, Yeah, manufacturing Ltd. So digestion and starts in

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<v Speaker 3>our mouth as soon as we put a bite of

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<v Speaker 3>food into our mouth. We've got amylases and other enzymes

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<v Speaker 3>in our saliva that start the process of breaking down

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<v Speaker 3>the complex starches that's in our food, and of course

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<v Speaker 3>our teeth are grinding and breaking things down into teeny

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<v Speaker 3>tiny pieces. As we swallow that food, matter will pass

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<v Speaker 3>through our esophagus aided by these muscular contractions that you

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<v Speaker 3>love so much that we call peristalsissus, as well as

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<v Speaker 3>aided by all of that saliva that we mixed our

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<v Speaker 3>food up with, and then our esophagus has to travel

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<v Speaker 3>all the way like from our mouth basically down through

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<v Speaker 3>a hole in our diaphragm, which is that muscle that

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<v Speaker 3>separates our chest from our abdomen through a hole in

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<v Speaker 3>that diaphragm, and then through a sphincter called the lower

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<v Speaker 3>esophageal sphincter. Sphincters are a recurring theme.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, they're attract They are essential.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, Yeah, very much so. And our food bowlless, which

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<v Speaker 3>is what it's called at this point, will land with

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<v Speaker 3>a splash I like to imagine in the digestive acids

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<v Speaker 3>of our stomach.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's like a sea of acid.

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<v Speaker 3>A little see it's probably not realistically, but it's the

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<v Speaker 3>way I like to imagine it, okay, okay. And our

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<v Speaker 3>stomach is up in the upper left hand side of

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<v Speaker 3>our belly, got it, okay, And there in our stomach

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<v Speaker 3>it will churn literally with muscular contractions and burn literally

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<v Speaker 3>with hydrochloric acid, as well as other enzymes that our

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<v Speaker 3>stomach makes, like pepsin and other things, to further break

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<v Speaker 3>down our food and create this kind of like liquidy,

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<v Speaker 3>mushy mass that's called chime cime chyme, and our stomach

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<v Speaker 3>then lets that cime out a little bit at a

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<v Speaker 3>time through yet another sphincter called the pyloric sphincter.

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<v Speaker 1>How little at a time do you what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great question. So the amount of time, how

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<v Speaker 3>little it kind of depends on what it is that

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<v Speaker 3>you're eating. So liquids are gonna donut.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we just eight.

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<v Speaker 3>It usually takes half of our food will be emptied

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<v Speaker 3>from our stomach in about an hour or so, wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the rest of it. It can really just

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<v Speaker 3>depend on how much fat was in it, how well

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<v Speaker 3>we chewed it, because bigger pieces that are larger than

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<v Speaker 3>like two millimeters cannot pass through that sphincter, so they

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<v Speaker 3>have to be broken down further before they can pass through.

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<v Speaker 3>And all of that just happens in our in our stomach.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's doing all of that, but usually between two

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<v Speaker 3>and four hours, your stomach is completely empty after a

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<v Speaker 3>meal two.

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<v Speaker 1>And four hours. And fat, more fat means longer time digestive.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, yes, because it kind of sits on top because

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<v Speaker 3>it floats, and so then it like whatever takes longer

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<v Speaker 3>for it to kind of end up passing through that sphincter.

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<v Speaker 3>And in that way, our stomach is a really important

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<v Speaker 3>regulator of our digestion, right because it is slowly letting

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<v Speaker 3>food or cime rather out of our stomach into our

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<v Speaker 3>small intestine at a rate ideally that our small intestine

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<v Speaker 3>can actually handle it. If it just dumped all of

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<v Speaker 3>the contents at once, that would be miserable and you

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<v Speaker 3>would feel really sick from it because you're small intestine.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like really doesn't get enough credit in

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<v Speaker 3>RGI track.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so huge, it's huge. It's it's not aptly named. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it is the long intestine.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the long intestine. It is small in diameter,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why it's called the small intestine. But yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it is also the place where we are doing all

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<v Speaker 3>almost of the absorption of our nutrients. Like you could

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<v Speaker 3>take out someone's entire stomach, you could take out someone's

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<v Speaker 3>entire colon. You really cannot take out their whole small intestine.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can take up like chunks of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Even taking out small trunks of it can have pretty

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<v Speaker 3>significant effects and ends up with what we called short

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<v Speaker 3>gut syndrome, which can have quite a lot of side effects.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyways, I just really like small intestin doesn't get

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<v Speaker 3>enough cred.

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<v Speaker 1>How long is the small intestine?

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<v Speaker 3>Great question? Anywhere from let me check my notes, because

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<v Speaker 3>that's later three to five meters, which is like nine

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<v Speaker 3>to sixteen plus feet.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just all coiled up in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I want everyone to know that I tried really

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<v Speaker 3>hard to make like a large diagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you make it to scale like you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to have like nine It was like the size of

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<v Speaker 1>my child. Okay, well your child's not nine feet.

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<v Speaker 3>No no, no, well neither are we.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was coiled yeah. Oh oh, I see.

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<v Speaker 3>I just meant yeah anyways, but I didn't, so I

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<v Speaker 3>have no visuals right now except my hands. Okay, where

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<v Speaker 3>are we, Aaron? We've gotten way off course.

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<v Speaker 1>We started giving credit to the small intestine.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's where all of our food that our stomach

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<v Speaker 3>lets out makes it. And in addition to all of

0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.440
<v Speaker 3>the absorption which is happening in our small intestine, our

0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:48.560
<v Speaker 3>small intestine is also a place of continued digestion. So

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<v Speaker 3>our gallbladder, which everyone is an expert on now because

0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.520
<v Speaker 3>we did an episode on gall batter as well as

0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:58.400
<v Speaker 3>our pancreas, are both secreting additional digestive enzymes into our

0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:00.760
<v Speaker 3>small intestine. They let them out in the first part

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<v Speaker 3>of our small intestine, and that like finalizes the process

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<v Speaker 3>of digestion essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>For the most part, so things are digested.

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<v Speaker 3>So things are all the way broken down because they

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<v Speaker 3>have to be broken down all the way into like

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<v Speaker 3>their singular components. Right. All of our starches and carbohydrates

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<v Speaker 3>from things like bread have to be broken down into

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<v Speaker 3>single sugars. Our proteins have to be broken down into

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<v Speaker 3>single amino acids. Fats have to be broken down into

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<v Speaker 3>fatty acids so that in our small intestine they can

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<v Speaker 3>be absorbed through that intestinal wall and into our bloodstream

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<v Speaker 3>so that we can actually use these things.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like digestion, extraction, excretion, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, except the colon does more than excretion and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>get there just one second. So yeah, So that's our

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<v Speaker 3>small intestine and what it's doing the whole way down.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like three different parts that have different names, and

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<v Speaker 3>each of them absorb different things. Don't ask me any specifics.

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<v Speaker 3>Most all of everything is absorbed within the first two

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<v Speaker 3>thirds are duodenum and ju juna, the first parts of

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<v Speaker 3>our small intestine, and then the last part is called

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<v Speaker 3>the ilium. And there, even though most things have been

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<v Speaker 3>absorbed by then a few things are very important to

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<v Speaker 3>be absorbed only in that spot, like B twelve as

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<v Speaker 3>well as our bio salts throwback to our salt better episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting why it's so specialized. Each part of our system

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<v Speaker 3>has a purpose. And then at the end of this

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen ish feet journey, there's yet another sphincter, the iliosecual valve.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I just have to say that all of my

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<v Speaker 1>all of my favorite words apparently are digestive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sphincter, peristosis, du yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Not sphincter. It was the ill sekul il, I mean sphincter. Fine,

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<v Speaker 1>I love like spin. I would put it up there,

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<v Speaker 1>but not like it's not it's nowhere near duodenum.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's a good yeah, yeah, these are good words.

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<v Speaker 3>So at this iliosecal valves is what separates the small

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<v Speaker 3>intestine from our large intestine, which is also called our

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<v Speaker 3>colon and our colon. It kind of is the star

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<v Speaker 3>of the show when it comes to poop, because this

0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:14.760
<v Speaker 3>is where this mushy mass of chime and digested food

0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.080
<v Speaker 3>bits that are left over turns into poop. This happens

0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:22.400
<v Speaker 3>in our colony. Our colon starts down in the right

0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:27.200
<v Speaker 3>lower right quadrant of our abdomen. It snakes up that's

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<v Speaker 3>called our acending colon. Oh yes, towards our lever. It

0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:34.199
<v Speaker 3>goes across the top of our belly, and then it

0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.280
<v Speaker 3>travels down to our lower left quadrant, and then it

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<v Speaker 3>does a s curve okay, like colon down and back

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<v Speaker 3>to our rectum okay, and then it exits our anus.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet another sphincter, two sphincters exactly what.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, The large intestine is called the large intestine because

0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.800
<v Speaker 3>it's much wider than our small intestine, So it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like five to eight send me instead of two

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<v Speaker 3>to four centimeters, but it's not nearly as long. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like five feet ish one hundred and fifty centimeters or

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<v Speaker 3>so long a meter and a half. And the way

0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:12.040
<v Speaker 3>that we go from this pure liquid cime that's rushing

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<v Speaker 3>through the water side of our small intestine and into

0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:19.400
<v Speaker 3>the formed tubes that we think of as turds is

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<v Speaker 3>because our colon is absorbing all of the water that

0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:28.119
<v Speaker 3>is left over. Right, our small intestine does a crap

0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:32.359
<v Speaker 3>ton of water absorption as well, but our colon that

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<v Speaker 3>is the primary function of it. It's reasorbing water and electrolytes,

0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:41.359
<v Speaker 3>especially sodium, because the water follows the sodium, and that

0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.959
<v Speaker 3>is like its main job. It's absorbing like one to

0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.959
<v Speaker 3>two liters of water per day. It also has a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of musculature around it, and so it is doing

0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:55.560
<v Speaker 3>peristalsis to really mix all of those contents to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that any other things that didn't get absorbed, things

0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:02.480
<v Speaker 3>that need further breakdown by the microbes that live in

0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.560
<v Speaker 3>our colon, which do a really important role in breaking

0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:06.760
<v Speaker 3>down the last bits of things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm assuming that the our microbio our gut microbiome

0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:14.119
<v Speaker 1>is very different from one start of the small intestine

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, yes, every aspect of our gi tract has its

0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:27.160
<v Speaker 3>own microflora. Love that, yes, but yeah that. And then

0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.480
<v Speaker 3>at the end of that, at the very bottom of

0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:33.159
<v Speaker 3>this gastro intestinal tract, the last pieces, the rectum and

0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.879
<v Speaker 3>the anus, are really really important. Now, the anal canal,

0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.399
<v Speaker 3>it's only a couple of inches long, super short, but

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<v Speaker 3>it has in that two different sphincters. There's the internal

0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:47.320
<v Speaker 3>sphincter and the external sphincter. Now, the internal anal sphincter

0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:51.720
<v Speaker 3>is not really under voluntary control, so that's automatically opening

0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:55.800
<v Speaker 3>and closing. And it does this when your rectum starts

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<v Speaker 3>to fill with poop. Listen, we're going there, We're there.

0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:05.240
<v Speaker 3>It's we're deep in it. As your rectum starts to

0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:09.680
<v Speaker 3>fill with poop, this causes your internal anal sphincter to relax,

0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.919
<v Speaker 3>to let a little bit of the contents of that

0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:18.120
<v Speaker 3>rectum into the anal canal. Okay, okay. Then there's sensors there.

0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.959
<v Speaker 3>There's like a system where it talks back to your

0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:25.040
<v Speaker 3>brain through the sensory system in your anal canal that

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<v Speaker 3>can tell is it a pooper? Is it a part?

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<v Speaker 1>But they can't. I mean, it can't always always account.

0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:37.280
<v Speaker 3>But you sometimes can. And so then you go and

0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.560
<v Speaker 3>have control over that external anal sphincter so that if

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<v Speaker 3>it senses poop and you're in a place where you

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<v Speaker 3>can let it out, then you relax that external anal

0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:52.440
<v Speaker 3>sphincter and letter poo. Or you sense that there's poop

0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:54.280
<v Speaker 3>and you're like, I'm not there yet, and so you

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<v Speaker 3>can clench that external anal sphincter, which everyone's probably doing

0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:03.520
<v Speaker 3>right now as they listen, or you can sense that

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<v Speaker 3>it's a fart and you're like, now's the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now's the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Release okay, and hope you're right and hope that you're

0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.800
<v Speaker 3>right about it. And that is how we make.

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<v Speaker 1>Poop amazing, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just really feel like that journey deserves credit.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's more parastals. The large intestine or the colon

0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.040
<v Speaker 1>is the star when it comes to parastlsis.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything is parisalicing because you need it to be able

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<v Speaker 3>for your food to even make it to your stomach

0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:34.160
<v Speaker 3>to begin with, your stomach has a lot of musculature

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<v Speaker 3>and it's also contracting, but your colon just has like

0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:40.600
<v Speaker 3>a different setup of muscles where they have these like

0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.600
<v Speaker 3>transverse muscles that run along the whole colon as well

0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.800
<v Speaker 3>as around, so they just do a little different types

0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 3>of contraction to really form those turds.

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to ask questions about like what when

0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:55.639
<v Speaker 1>does your stomach hurt? What is actually hurting? But I

0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:58.879
<v Speaker 1>know that that's probably more next week and it's so variable.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, we'll talk where about that next week when

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<v Speaker 3>you have where does that happen? Oh? Do you mean

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<v Speaker 3>bor barrigmy?

0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:07.240
<v Speaker 1>What there's a word for that? And get another really

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<v Speaker 1>good world.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's really good. Wow, bor Berrigmy is the

0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.080
<v Speaker 3>tummy gurgs that you get? The gas bubbles?

0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Why does it have a name because it's so good?

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<v Speaker 1>Where does that come from?

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<v Speaker 3>I have no clue.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a person?

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<v Speaker 3>These are questions for you.

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:25.040
<v Speaker 1>No, I know, I literally in that one of the episodes,

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I have a whole thing on etymology.

0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:28.200
<v Speaker 3>It might be is it this one?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is this one? It is?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well I don't have answers for those questions, but

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to talk a little bit more about

0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:36.960
<v Speaker 3>the poop that that we have now formed. You asked

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:38.560
<v Speaker 3>at the beginning, like how long does it take for

0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 3>us to just empty that stomach? And so that's you

0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:43.280
<v Speaker 3>know again anywhere from like one to four hours. But

0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:47.639
<v Speaker 3>this whole process of forming a turd can take such

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<v Speaker 3>a long time. It's anywhere from like twenty four to

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<v Speaker 3>seventy two hours. We're talking like one to three days,

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<v Speaker 3>or if.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gum, it's five years.

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<v Speaker 3>That was way too big of a laugh for that, Sorry,

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 3>but I thought it was quite funny. Yeah no, uh yeah,

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:10.639
<v Speaker 3>but it's it's hugely variable, which I think is so

0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 3>fascinating because it's not just that it varies person to person,

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.439
<v Speaker 3>which it does, but it can also vary depending on

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 3>what you're eating. So fiber, I was just about to say,

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:23.120
<v Speaker 3>which we'll talk more about next week. Okay, fiber can

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:27.640
<v Speaker 3>significantly increase transit times, meaning that things move quicker through

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 3>your colon and through your small intestine as well.

0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, increase transit times as in like faster, faster moved through.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, less traffic Okay, okay, But anyway, the main

0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:42.720
<v Speaker 3>timeframe is like between one to three days.

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<v Speaker 1>One to three days, And what about other things that

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 1>change transit time.

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Fiber is the biggest one that has been studied, but

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:51.960
<v Speaker 3>there's also like there's lots of medications that can slow

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:55.919
<v Speaker 3>down transit, big huge glp ones that everyone is on

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 3>right now, the like ozembics of the world. That's like

0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 3>one of their main mechanisms is slowing down gastric emptying

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:03.399
<v Speaker 3>and so they slow your transit time. But lots of

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:04.400
<v Speaker 3>other medicines can too.

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Why do like opioids slow down transit time?

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:10.920
<v Speaker 3>I think because of something about the receptors that they're

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.640
<v Speaker 3>working on, where there's also opioid receptors in your GI tract,

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, they can cause pretty substantial constipation. The SSRIs

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 3>also can affect your gut motility in general, not necessarily

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 3>slowing it down, but sometimes sometimes spinning it up, but

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.160
<v Speaker 3>just cause more worried me, just more movement there because

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 3>of how much serotonin we have in our guts. So

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:31.359
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of different medicines that can do that.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's also, in addition to a range in like

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:37.640
<v Speaker 3>how long it takes you to make your poop, which

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:41.320
<v Speaker 3>might affect how often you poop, there's also a huge

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:46.959
<v Speaker 3>range in consistency of poops. And for that we can

0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 3>talk about one of my favorite things in all of

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 3>medicine to talk about, which is the Bristol stool scale

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 3>or the Bristol formed stool scale. And I think we

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:56.359
<v Speaker 3>have an image of it, but you can google it

0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 3>if you're just listening. It's called the Bristol stool chart.

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<v Speaker 3>And this was invented in nineteen ninety, yeah.

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:06.879
<v Speaker 1>Which feels like it should have been invented in much

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>year ago, ten.

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:11.880
<v Speaker 3>Right exactly, But it wasn't. It was within our lifetimes. Yeah,

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:15.919
<v Speaker 3>And they actually invented this or they came up with

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 3>this really as a way to correlate stool transit time.

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 3>So it was like the longer that your stool was

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 3>taking to move through your guts, the harder your poops

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 3>were going to be. So a type one stool are

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 3>described as separate hard lumps like nuts. So like you're

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 3>popping out pellets, rabbit pellets. Oh, like these rabbit pellets

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 3>rabbit pellet, which I have a shout out to the

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 3>San Diego Natural History Museum for letting me borrow their

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 3>poop there.

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not real poop, just in case anyone is concerned

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:48.360
<v Speaker 1>that it's.

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Really accurate fakeo. So yeah, like hard hard rabbit pellets

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 3>is like a type one, and then a type seven

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 3>is just like pure liquid poop, just completely watery, no

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 3>pieces type of poop and deal poop is considered usually

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.640
<v Speaker 3>between three and four and sometimes the type five.

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>So sometimes is that just like depending on.

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 3>The person dependence really like what is normal for you

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:13.200
<v Speaker 3>might be different than what's normal for someone else.

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.400
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting in and of itself.

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 3>I know, right.

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:17.360
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 3>And also this is a slightly different scale for kiddos

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 3>who are very prone to constipation, but their scale is

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 3>a little bit different. Just to make it easier for

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 3>kids because they have a harder time describing their poop.

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, why why do kids have Is it just

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:30.719
<v Speaker 1>they're not eating fiber.

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:35.400
<v Speaker 3>I think it's more that they hold their poop, especially

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 3>in toddlers, like they'll be like volitional stool holding, it's called,

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 3>and so they basically are like either afraid to poop

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:41.919
<v Speaker 3>in the potty or it's like too big of a

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 3>change for them, or they have one bad poop and

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 3>now they're scared of it. There's like so many things.

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>That during the potty training.

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 3>But then once constant We'll talk more about this next week.

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.159
<v Speaker 3>But once constipation starts, it's really hard, like it's a

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 3>it's a vicious cycle. Oh yeah, it's a heart it's

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:00.679
<v Speaker 3>a hard Okay, break, I want to ask questions I

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 3>know next week, but that I mean, that's like how

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 3>we make poop. These are the ways that our poop

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 3>can look really varied. I don't know what other questions

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 3>that you have about poop.

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Fiber. Talk to me about fiber and yeah, no, excuse me.

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:23.119
<v Speaker 3>What do you want to know? I'm gonna talk more

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 3>next week about fiber. Okay, Okay, what fiber does on

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 3>like a general level is it holds onto water.

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>It holds onto water.

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 3>So fiber are parts of plant material that we cannot

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 3>break down ourselves. Some parts of fiber, our gut bacteria

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 3>can break down, and they do so, and when they

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 3>do then they usually produce gas. And so that's why

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 3>sometimes fiber can make you real bloated and gassy because

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:52.120
<v Speaker 3>your gut bacteria are so thrilled about it. But other

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 3>times they don't really break it down. And then all

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 3>it is is this basically like large structure that holds

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 3>onto water. And so because your colon is mostly just

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 3>absorbing water, the more fiber that you have, the less

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 3>water that you're absorbing from that, so the softer your

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 3>stool stays. It also provides this like bulking agent, which

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 3>then your colon can peristals against and that is why

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 3>it moves along as well too. Okay, so that's basically fiber.

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I do have a question I was thinking, So, okay,

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 1>so you talked about that the poop is our undigested

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>or well okay, the.

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Leftover fliptovers, Yeah, leftovers.

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>And then it's also bacteria and some of our own

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>gut microbes. How much of it is gut microbes, what

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 1>about our intestinal shedding? You know what? Tell me?

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 3>So glad you asked, that's the last thing I wanted

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 3>to tell you, Like we work so well together. So

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 3>because that gets into like, okay, I said that it's

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 3>just the leftover parts, and now we know what our

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 3>guts are doing the whole way down. But like, what

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 3>really is our poop made out of? What is the

0:28:57.720 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 3>a turd in the toilet? What is it really?

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Well on the stool scale, on some stale.

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, seventy five percent of our poop is just water,

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 3>seventy five percent on average if we're talking like a

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Bristol three to five. Sure, Okay, the less the more constipated,

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 3>the harder the stool, the less water it's going to have.

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 3>But so seventy five percent or so of it is

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 3>usually water and the remaining twenty five percent is like biomass.

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 3>Up to fifty five percent of that biomass is bacteria. Wow,

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 3>and up to fifty percent of that bacteria are still alive.

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Of those bacteria, Sorry for my grammar. So we're talking

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 3>like I also didn't even mention this, but like in

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 3>your in your colon, especially because that's where we think

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 3>about our gut microbiome the most because that's where we

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 3>have the most abundant flora, even though we have microbes everywhere. Sure,

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 3>we are talking hundreds of billions, if not trillions, of

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 3>individual bacteria from hundreds, if not thousands of different species,

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.719
<v Speaker 3>all of which are doing different things. They're serving different roles,

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 3>including helping break down the final bits of food that

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 3>weren't broken down by our digestive tract in our small

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 3>intestine and our stomach, including making vitamin K and a

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 3>number of B vitamins that are essential for us to

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 3>then absorb in our colon, and playing a huge role

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 3>in our immune system protecting us from infection with other bacteria,

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 3>and then also just like modulating our immune response. And

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 3>the more that we learn about our gut microbiome, the

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 3>more of a role that we know that it has

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 3>in like our total body health. So when we're pooping out,

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 3>like half of the actual mass of our poop is

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 3>just bacteria.

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is also you can't get over that, And.

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 3>It's also why our poop is so gross, because half

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 3>of that bacteria is alive and could make you sick

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 3>if it was the right type of bacteria or if

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 3>it was opportunistic and I can't wait for you to

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 3>tell us more about that. And then the rest of

0:30:56.800 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 3>it is fiber insoluble plant matter, undigestive sugars, undigested protein,

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 3>whatever other stuff, and then some cells in mucus. The

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 3>rest of that fifty percent, and the breakdown depends on

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 3>what you're eating. But Aaron, unless you have any other questions,

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to transition to you.

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean, I just okay, So there's so much

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>back to I just didn't that's incredible.

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I do have a question about just like water

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>in general. So you know, obviously we're drinking a lot

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>of water. How does dehydration play a role in poop formation?

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Huge role, especially in constipation. So, like the biggest, one

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 3>of the biggest risks with diarrhea is that your colon

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 3>is not absorbing that water, and so you're at really

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 3>high risk of dehydration because now you're losing one to

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 3>two liters of water or more depending on how much

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 3>you're pooping. And so that's a huge risk of diarrhea.

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 3>And so if you are dehydrated, your colon is still

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 3>going to absorb ninety percent or more of the water

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 3>that is left in or colon. But if you are

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 3>dehydrated to begin with, then you're not drinking as much water.

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 3>There's not as much water making it there, and so

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 3>that's why you're at risk of constipation. Got it? Yep?

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 3>My second episode is now also done. Just kidding, So

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to just end this by saying, if we

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 3>think back again to what our poop is made out of, right, Yes,

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 3>it's bacteria, it's plant matter, it's fats and proteins. If

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 3>you go even more nitty gritty on it, our poop

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 3>is hydrogen and oxygen, sure water, carbon, nitrogen, especially from

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.959
<v Speaker 3>the bacteria, and undigestive protein. And then there's some amount

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 3>of inorganic matter that we haven't used or that came

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 3>from these cells, like iron and calcium and phosphate. There's salts.

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 3>So really, aerin poop is just the building blocks of life.

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Uh duh.

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 3>So tell me about how animals use it?

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can't wait, I cannot wait.

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 4>Okay, we have.

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>So many names for poop, so many names. There's excrement,

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>which comes from the Latin to separate or sift out.

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>H turd I loved it comes from similar meanings which

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I find interesting to split flay, torn off the body.

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Crap originates from the word for residue, specifically from rendered fat.

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 3>I love the word crap.

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I do too. I think turd is still but like

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>crap is more versatile, right like a crap.

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can my two year old saying, and it

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 3>just cracks me up.

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>There's fee sees, which is from the Latin for sediment

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>or dregs. Stool. I don't need to take us on

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>that animalogical journey. It's it's longer, but it basically is

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 1>like thrown as part of it, which I find fast,

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 1>like like thrown like toilet. Yeah, it's like, okay, fine,

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll take I'll take us on this journey. It starts

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>as seat for one person, as in like thrown, and

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>then to the other stool that we think of today,

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the just a stool, like the little

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 1>stool to then privy to then poop. Huh yeah, interesting,

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 1>dung all manure.

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Poop.

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to know where poop comes from? It

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 1>comes from the okay, does not come from poop deck,

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>which I think is a comics swabbing the deck. Those

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 1>are not the same, not the same etymological origin. I

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>think so poop probably comes from the Middle English word

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>poopen poopin referring to the sound a horn makes, which

0:34:54.000 --> 0:35:01.240
<v Speaker 1>then became fart fart, and then through automatopoeia became poop poop,

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>and and then there are so many words that we

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>use to describe animal poop droppings, scat which means any

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>wild animal poop, guano, bat and bird poop. So much Yep,

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>bring out the guano.

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 3>This is some bat guano. Again, thank you to the

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 3>San Diego Natural Museum. We've got some carnivor poop.

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Carnivor poop.

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Look at that. It's so gross it is.

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yep, that's carnivor poop. There's frass, which is like

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:35.399
<v Speaker 1>inside was Yeah, yep, sprint. Oh, I haven't heard that

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>otter poop specifically.

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. I don't have an example of.

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I I just was like, wait, so then I was

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>like exactly, so, I don't know. I tried to look

0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>up others, like species specific names for poop, and I

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 1>couldn't really find very many. I didn't do a huge search.

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just cubic poop. That's all really I know

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>about that. I don't think that's that's not that's not

0:35:56.800 --> 0:36:00.080
<v Speaker 1>the name. But perhaps the most versatile word for poop

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>is shi t.

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 3>I have a non explicit rating us so we're not

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 3>going to say, we're not going to say it.

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>But like I do love so it shares a similar

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of etymological origin as excrement and turd. It comes

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.799
<v Speaker 1>from this idea of separation from the body, which also

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>means it shares an origin with the word science. Really

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:23.720
<v Speaker 1>need to like separate one thing from another.

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.760
<v Speaker 3>Huh, so that's so interesting.

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>And science have the same well not poop. Excrement and

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>science have the same origin. Ish actually shi t but anyway,

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>so but like, yeah, sahi t has so many different

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>We can attach that word to like shoot the bull,

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, chicken, whatever, I love it, I blank my pants,

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. But there is no shortage of

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the ways to refer to the gut derived waste that

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>we leave behind. But none of these words properly convey

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the respect and a preciation that poop truly deserves, even

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the word waste, which is one of our more like,

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, polite words for poop means something of no use,

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>something you don't want, something that you like, You're like, well,

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't need this, get it away from me. Can

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:18.440
<v Speaker 1>that be said for poop? I mean, as a species,

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>we have devised massive, intricate sewer systems, true feats of

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:27.799
<v Speaker 1>engineering to increase the distance between us and poop feces.

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Poop elicits a feeling of disgust universally across all cultures,

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>probably evolutionarily ingrained because avoidance of feces would also help

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:41.800
<v Speaker 1>to avoid diseased. So yes, not wanting to be around

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>poop is reasonable, it's adaptive. But labeling it as waste

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>really only tells one part of the story. Poop as

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 1>a problem to deal with, And that's the story that

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell more of next week. But this

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 1>week my goal is to shine a more appreciative light

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>on this dark matter.

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 3>Dark matter, that's another good one.

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 1>There's a book I stole that from that it's called

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.760
<v Speaker 1>The Other Dark Matter. But because without poop, and especially

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>the creatures that repurpose it, our planet would be a

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 1>vastly different place, a lifeless empty shell. So we have

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot to thank poop for. Yeah, and this is

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 1>we had a parasite appreciation Hour at one point this

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:25.359
<v Speaker 1>is the poop appreciation Hour.

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.399
<v Speaker 3>Oh I love it. I'm here for it. Yes, let's

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 3>appreciate some poop.

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's appreciate it. Okay, here we go. When I started

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 1>traveling to Panama to do field work for my PhD,

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I picked up the book Tropical Nature by Adrian Forsyth

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and Ken Miata, And by now I've forgotten most of

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>what I learned in that book, but there was one

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>piece of advice that has stuck with me. If you

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:49.400
<v Speaker 1>want to see the forest come to life, watch what

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>happens after you poop in the woods. Okay, I'm reading

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>a quote from this quote. After nature calls, do not

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>beat a hasty, embarrassed treat, but sit quietly nearby. The

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>earliest contestants will arrive soon after you settle down. First

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:10.320
<v Speaker 1>are the tiny dung scareb beetles and metallic otitted flies.

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:14.800
<v Speaker 1>The later arrivals are larger and behaviorally more complex scaub beetles.

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Upon landing, they embark on a series of maneuvers designed

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.399
<v Speaker 1>to secure a private cache of food that they will

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>either eat themselves or barter for copulatory rites. While the

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:30.240
<v Speaker 1>scarabs are carting away dung, long sleek stapho linid beetles

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 1>arrive on the scene. Agile and voracious. They burrow under

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.919
<v Speaker 1>the dung mass in search of their prey. Of all

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the dung deposited in tropical rainforest, human scat is the

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 1>most avidly sought and the most quickly removed. More than

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>fifty species of dung scabs may converge on a pile

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>of our manure before it is gone species.

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:54.919
<v Speaker 3>I don't even think I knew there were that many

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 3>species of dung beetles.

0:39:56.120 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh there are, do I have it. We'll see lots, lots,

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:05.720
<v Speaker 1>many more than fifty species. Isn't that great?

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I love that. So anyway, that is the piece of

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.800
<v Speaker 1>advice that I will also say, do this, do this.

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 3>Do poop in those woods, Do poop in the woods,

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 3>poop in the woods in the tropics specifically, Like, does

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:17.720
<v Speaker 3>it have to be tropics?

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>No, there are poop. There are dung beetles on every

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>continent except Antarctica.

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they I mean, they really are the unsung heroes

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:29.320
<v Speaker 1>of poop. I mean, in fact, all heroes of poop,

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 1>including like the microbes and the fungi and the and

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 1>they're so cute. They're all unsung, right, because no one

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 1>really appreciates no. Dung beetles. They do the environment, Yeah,

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>because without them, we would be buried in the stuff.

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Because they take our waste product and they use it

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>themselves or they turn it into something that other organisms

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:54.880
<v Speaker 1>like plants can use. Case in point Australia in the

0:40:54.960 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>years following European colonization. Dung beetles are globally distributed, like

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I said, every continent except Antarctica, but they can be

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>pretty picky about the poop that they utilize. When cattle

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 1>were introduced to Australia by Europeans, the dung beetles there,

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 1>which had evolved on a diet of marsupial poop, primarily

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 1>were not interested in this new cattle dung, and the

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 1>poop began to accumulate at a rate that approached thirty

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 1>three million tons per year just mounds.

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:34.760
<v Speaker 3>It's like so much poop that you can't I can imagine.

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I'll talk a little bit about more other poop

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:42.319
<v Speaker 1>quantities that there's better visualizations, but this one, I don't

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.879
<v Speaker 1>have a good one for huge, huge, huge pest fly

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:49.919
<v Speaker 1>populations grew out of control and grazing land shrink because

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>the cattle were like, I'm not going to graze near

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 1>these towering piles of maneuver. That's grosss Yeah, And after

0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 1>about one hundred and eighty years of this, the government

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 1>decided that they just couldn't take it anymore. I mean,

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 1>that's like when the first cows were important. Okay, but

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:12.720
<v Speaker 1>still yeah, the first fleet. Yeah, so between between nineteen

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 1>sixty eight and nineteen eighty two, in a move that

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I find shocking considering the issues that introduced species have

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:22.359
<v Speaker 1>caused in the past. Guess what Australia did.

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 3>Introduce some dung beetles.

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:27.320
<v Speaker 1>They did fifty five different species of dung beetles, primarily

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>from Southern Africa. I know, risky whisky.

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 3>But it paid off.

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:37.320
<v Speaker 1>It paid off. About eight species took hold and since

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>have been relatively successful in restoring some of the Australian pasture.

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:44.440
<v Speaker 3>It's that's so interesting. Have we ever done an episode

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:48.399
<v Speaker 3>that's just focused on the introduced species issues. We haven't.

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 3>It's very outside of our and yet inside of our

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:52.280
<v Speaker 3>personal interest.

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>We should do that. Let's do fire ants. Okay, okay,

0:42:55.960 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>all right, done, done, But these dung beetles, I mean,

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 1>it just showed how integral they are in the poop cycle,

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 1>and what valueabill work they perform. So for about fifteen

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 1>percent of the Earth's ice free surface is used for agriculture,

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and that translates into a lot of livestock dung, much

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.800
<v Speaker 1>of which is handled by dung beetles and other decomposers.

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and six, that's that's like, it's twenty

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>years ago. But you know it's fine. Dung Beetle contributions

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>to the US beef cattle industry alone were estimated at

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.399
<v Speaker 1>three hundred and eighty million dollars per year.

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 3>And no one's paying them.

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:37.879
<v Speaker 1>No one's paying them. They're getting paid in poopt, paid

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and poop and they're happy about that.

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 3>They're through.

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. By reintegrating dung into the landscape, dung beetles are

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>helping to fertilize the soil cycle. Nutrients distribute seeds both

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:51.920
<v Speaker 1>reduce and distribute parasites, which have a role in ecosystems

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>as well.

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 3>We still appreciate parents.

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I love parasites. They control pest fly populations. Some are

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:01.919
<v Speaker 1>even pollinators. Yeah, I don't know how, so don't ask.

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 3>That's fine.

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:07.359
<v Speaker 1>For the past forty million years, dung beetles have been

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:10.799
<v Speaker 1>bringing new meaning to the phrase one man's trash is

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:11.720
<v Speaker 1>another's treasure.

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:12.839
<v Speaker 3>God, I love it.

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, over five thousand species there it is, I do

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 1>have it. Five thousand species, five thousand species. I mean

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>it makes sense though, because like think about niche differentiation.

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:25.319
<v Speaker 3>Like no, but just of dung beetles. Dung beetles, Oh,

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:28.359
<v Speaker 3>insects are so cool, I know, okay.

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.280
<v Speaker 1>We are, oh speaking of if you are watching on YouTube,

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.439
<v Speaker 1>we have these sweet dung beetle shirts.

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to Yu see Davis and entomology.

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 1>And there are very There are other cute shirts that

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 1>we saw there too, but we just had to have these.

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Dog thank you for selling them.

0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but yeah. Among dung beetles, there are rollers that

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>transport balls of dung to later bury under the soil.

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 1>There are tunnelers which bury the dung close to where

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it fell. There are dwellers which live in the poop

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>or brewed. They're young in the poop mm hmm. And

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 1>dung beetles are not innovators, right like they didn't inherit

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 1>a planet that was piled high with poop. They are

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:09.439
<v Speaker 1>carrying on a tradition that is foundational to life as

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 1>we know it, whereby quote unquote, waste is in the

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 1>eye of the beholder. For the earliest microbes, oxygen was

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>thought it was waste, right, it was a toxic byproduct.

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Carbon dioxide was king and then came along the aerobic bacteria,

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>for whom oxygen was not just like weight. It wasn't

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 1>just not waste, but it was essential essential.

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 3>Deep.

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's like as deep as we're going to go,

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>just a little bit of a dive in the backup

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>of it. But what one organism produces as waste, another

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:43.840
<v Speaker 1>views as an opportunity. For us, we may view the

0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 1>poop that we produce as waste and nothing more, like

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 1>get this away from me. It stinks, it's gross, it's

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna make me sick. But for dung beetles and flies

0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 1>and earthworms and soil microbes and fungi, our poop is

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:59.839
<v Speaker 1>a rich substance packed full of nutrients. It's a place

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 1>to raise your young, to make your mark, and to

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.160
<v Speaker 1>do your part to reuse and recycle.

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:10.280
<v Speaker 3>I love imagining them like telling their kids this, like, okay, kids,

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 3>get right on the family biz. One kid is like dad,

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 3>can we just eat like broccoli.

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but we really don't give these organisms, these king

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 1>midases of the world, enough credit for transforming our waste

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 1>into a pile of gold. That waste comes in all

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 1>shapes and sizes. From the cube shaped poop of a wombat,

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:37.359
<v Speaker 1>which is something to do, is just the way that.

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 3>It they're colon, Yeah.

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>To the kidney shaped dung of a horse, the pellets

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 1>of rabbits.

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 3>I did not know that horse poop is shaped like

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 3>a kidney, like.

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 1>A bean beanish, yeah, beanie, yeah, to the cylindrical tubes

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>of carnivores and us and us and omnivores. Yeah, yeah, sure.

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know if all omnivores have cylindrical poop.

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 1>There are generalizations that we can make, and there are

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 1>exceptions to everything.

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 3>There's probably a bristol stool scale for every animal.

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Just kidding well, I was actually thinking that they probably should,

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:17.360
<v Speaker 1>right like there would be because a sick rabbit probably

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't produce my dog's poop ranges, Oh god, in texture,

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, how am I supposed to get this

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 1>off in the grass?

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 3>It is just embedded in especially the second or third

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:27.919
<v Speaker 3>poop of the walk.

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:30.399
<v Speaker 1>It's just like you know, when it's a third poop

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.720
<v Speaker 1>and you're just like, please, don't, just please, there's nothing

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:41.600
<v Speaker 1>at least, yeah, you can wipe it. On second thought,

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we don't have more pictures for this episode thing.

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 1>But the variation in poop across the animal kingdom is

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:52.240
<v Speaker 1>so vast that you might wonder if there are any

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:55.839
<v Speaker 1>real common threads, And it turns out that there are so.

0:47:56.320 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 1>By modeling how different species pooped, some researchers conclude that

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the magic number for poop duration.

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Is twelve seconds.

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:06.879
<v Speaker 3>I found this paper, Aaron, and I told my whole

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 3>family about it, and now my kid counts every time

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.880
<v Speaker 3>he goes to the bath and me. He's like yeah,

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, it's been more than twelve seconds, bro,

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 3>I've been coming.

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 1>My dog and I'm like seven, are you okay?

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it was twelve plus or minus seven seconds.

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.120
<v Speaker 1>That was the twelve plus or minus seven second I mean, okay,

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:25.280
<v Speaker 1>that's still like quite a small range just in terms

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of yeah, because it was like from elephants to rabbits

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:29.120
<v Speaker 1>or something.

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, give it to me.

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:34.239
<v Speaker 1>So like, okay, elephants poop fifteen pounds a day fifteen

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:38.360
<v Speaker 1>pounds pounds, yeah, oh my gosh, which is one hundred

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 1>times more than a dog poops.

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Hm. Wow.

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Elephants poop at a rate of three inches per second,

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:51.280
<v Speaker 1>keep going. Dog poop at about a rate ofo point

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 1>five inches per second.

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so it's a much smaller volume, smaller but same rate,

0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.000
<v Speaker 3>same and humans are like just under an inch a second.

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Although, so are humans actually pooping twelve seconds? Absolutely not.

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about it.

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk me about that next week. But they're both like,

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.319
<v Speaker 1>how how is an elephant pooping fifteen pounds and a

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 1>dog poopy? You know, like, how are they all pooping?

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 3>The poop from like the time that it exits the

0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:14.840
<v Speaker 3>anus until the time it's done on the floor is

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 3>twelve seconds plus or minus from an elephant to a

0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 3>dog to a dog?

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 2>True?

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:19.879
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Even yeah?

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:26.319
<v Speaker 1>How how the mucus? The mucus is the mucus that

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:29.839
<v Speaker 1>lines are intestines. It keeps everything moving along, getting there,

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 1>getting out there smoothly. I just love this so much,

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 1>So glad that you also found a twelve second Yes,

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:38.799
<v Speaker 1>that's all I have for like the commonalities.

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Though for changed my life forever though me too. Oh

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:42.400
<v Speaker 3>We're going to talk more about it next week. The

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:44.320
<v Speaker 3>twelve seconds will come up. I guess the number is

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 3>the magic number. We should be able to poop in

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 3>twelve seconds because we have cylindrical poops, just like all

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:51.640
<v Speaker 3>of these mammals that they model.

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean fiber. Is that the bottom line.

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 3>Paper was out of Georgia Tech. For a second, I

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:56.920
<v Speaker 3>thought it was also out of Davis, and I was

0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:58.799
<v Speaker 3>going to give them another shadow, but it was Georgia Tech.

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I read it book I found because

0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:04.839
<v Speaker 1>I was still loved it. I need to know more.

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:08.359
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, as far as commonality is like, that's all

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I've got fascinating. But the scent, the shape, the color, texture,

0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 1>and location of poop, they vary so much across the

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 1>animal kingdom, and they can tell us about the animal

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:20.239
<v Speaker 1>that produced it and the kind of life that it

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 1>is leading. Okay, right, so scent can tell us what

0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the animal ate. Carnivore poop tends to smell much worse

0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:30.240
<v Speaker 1>to us than herb of war poop to us, although

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:32.840
<v Speaker 1>scent is definitely again in the nose of the beholder,

0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 1>right Like, yes, as anyone who has had a dog

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:40.840
<v Speaker 1>can attest watching as their dog rolls in something unspeakably foul.

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:44.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like why why? Still, there are a lot

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 1>of reasons why. Actually, scent is a really powerful method

0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:50.400
<v Speaker 1>of communication. So, for instance, it can alert a predator

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:53.680
<v Speaker 1>to prey species nearby. This is one reason why your

0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 1>dog might be rolling in poop just to be like

0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not a prey, yeah, or like I

0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 1>am you know mighty predators smell my body, my own feces. Yeah,

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 1>so it might be like a disguising of scent. Sharks

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:12.640
<v Speaker 1>apparently can recognize the poop of seals and humans and

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 1>have may use it as a queue to like, oh,

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:18.880
<v Speaker 1>there's prey nearby certain sharks. Wow.

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like you hear so much about how

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:24.080
<v Speaker 3>much sharks can scent blood, you know, like they can

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 3>sense blood. But I never thought about them using poop

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 3>as a That makes sense because it would just be

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:33.280
<v Speaker 3>floating in the right interesting.

0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:35.879
<v Speaker 1>And also poop would tell you more about the individual

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:37.399
<v Speaker 1>animal than.

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 3>Blood and just blood yeah right, blood is just I mean,

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure.

0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Blood is also a cue, but like, yeah, poop apparently

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:47.439
<v Speaker 1>too juicy juicy seal yep up ahead to the right,

0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:51.360
<v Speaker 1>take a left at the booi.

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:51.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Some species bury their poop or they shoot their

0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 1>poop in a projectile manner to throw predators if the

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:02.400
<v Speaker 1>trail butterflies do this called fresh shooting.

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, yeah, yep.

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:07.240
<v Speaker 1>The smell of poop can also signal to other members

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:09.880
<v Speaker 1>of your species, like, hey, this is mine, this is

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 1>my territory. Paws off. Big cats do that, hippo, Yeah,

0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:18.320
<v Speaker 1>and also hippos do this. Big cats do this. Yeah, Okay,

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:20.800
<v Speaker 1>their they'll tails will be like helicopters, and they're.

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Like just like just getting their over the little spot.

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Some species have specialized glands that leave concentrated sense like dogs.

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:34.879
<v Speaker 1>They might even have Other species have communal latrines where

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:36.440
<v Speaker 1>they all go poop. It's kind of like a very

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:39.760
<v Speaker 1>stinky message board, like hey, what's everyone up to? Who's

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:42.839
<v Speaker 1>down to like party this weekend? There. I don't think

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:46.359
<v Speaker 1>they hang out. I'm can just poop and walk away. Yeah.

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Certain infections might make poop have a distinctive smell like

0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:52.919
<v Speaker 1>seed iff kind of warns like, hey, this is I'm

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:56.480
<v Speaker 1>not I'm not good. Yeah, don't roll in this. And

0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 1>for those species that have a keen sense of smell.

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Poop is a rich source of formation, and we humans

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 1>have harnessed that power for our own data gathering. What

0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, tell me so. There are several researchers that

0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:11.680
<v Speaker 1>have trained dogs to search for and alert to the

0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:15.440
<v Speaker 1>poops of certain species to help with like estimating biodiversity

0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 1>or where animals are distributed in a region, things like

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:22.200
<v Speaker 1>territory size, habitat preference, diet composition, and so on. It's

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:24.640
<v Speaker 1>hard for us to find poop in a landscape, but

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:25.320
<v Speaker 1>a dog.

0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Is, like, they know exactly where it is.

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 1>You just got to train to not roll in it.

0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:31.560
<v Speaker 3>So they use the dogs to find the poop and

0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 3>then they examine them.

0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:33.319
<v Speaker 1>They'll look at the poop yet.

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:35.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah fascinating. Yeah, that's so cool.

0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 1>There are even whale poop sniffing dogs. Whale poop whale

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:42.120
<v Speaker 1>poop sniffing dogs. Oh yeah, whale poop is I cut

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 1>a huge There was like a quote about the different

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:48.239
<v Speaker 1>fl likes, colors, and shapes that whale poop can come in.

0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:53.799
<v Speaker 3>About it, Do the dog sniff the whale poop on

0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:56.440
<v Speaker 3>the like when it washes up on the shore.

0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I think they go on boats.

0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:00.840
<v Speaker 3>They go on boats and they can sniff it from the.

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Water, I think because it's pretty diffuse, like it'll just

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:06.920
<v Speaker 1>coo yeah, and like.

0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:09.440
<v Speaker 3>A plume whale poop so much.

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:11.120
<v Speaker 1>And so there are some dogs that will, like I

0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:14.560
<v Speaker 1>think it's orcs specifically that they'll like track individual whales

0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 1>to be like okay, let's now test the water or

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:19.399
<v Speaker 1>test the poop, and like let's check their health. Oh

0:54:19.440 --> 0:54:22.239
<v Speaker 1>my god, I know that's so cool. I don't know.

0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:22.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:25.960
<v Speaker 1>And so we may not be able to smell as

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.120
<v Speaker 1>well as our canine companions, but once we get our

0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:30.879
<v Speaker 1>hands on some poop, there is really like no end

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to what we can tell. So, Aaron, you took us

0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:35.400
<v Speaker 1>through the Bristol stool scale. But that's just one species.

0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Consider the variation that you might find if you are

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:41.759
<v Speaker 1>tracking a bear, a black bear throughout throughout the course

0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 1>of a year, right, Like where does that bear live

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:46.360
<v Speaker 1>on the east, you know, in the east, on the west,

0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:49.799
<v Speaker 1>north or south? How does that influence its diet? Is

0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:52.399
<v Speaker 1>it a cicada year? Is it living in a more

0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:55.040
<v Speaker 1>urban environment and digging in trash? Or is it just

0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:59.160
<v Speaker 1>like total wilderness? Is it eating huckleberries or blackberries, fish

0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:01.960
<v Speaker 1>or squirrels. You know, like there's is it an older

0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:05.680
<v Speaker 1>bear or a baby bear? There are there parasites, is

0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:08.560
<v Speaker 1>it stressed? I mean, poop is an informational pile of gold.

0:55:09.280 --> 0:55:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Even if we don't know who's poop we've just stumbled

0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 1>upon on a hike in the woods, we can usually

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:17.240
<v Speaker 1>make some guesses based on its shape or its size.

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Carnivores tend to poop less than herbivores. Their scat often

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 1>will contain like hair or bones, and so if you

0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:29.440
<v Speaker 1>see that, you're like, oh, carnivor, and it comes in

0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:33.000
<v Speaker 1>a more cylindrical shape. Herbivores, on the other hand, poop

0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:36.560
<v Speaker 1>way more and their poop tends to be floatier with

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:40.880
<v Speaker 1>plant material. So that's carnivor. If you're twoing an on YouTube,

0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:44.959
<v Speaker 1>we have some samples some herbivor poop, some herbi bore poop.

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:49.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's like mountain lion and rabbit right there. And yeah,

0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:52.399
<v Speaker 1>so like the herb over poop, it's like floating or poop.

0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:55.480
<v Speaker 1>There's plant material, and that it could vary from like

0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:59.160
<v Speaker 1>sheep pellets to cow pies and so on, And it

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 1>depends in part on how much moisture an animal retains.

0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Of course, of course we know.

0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:05.920
<v Speaker 1>So for example, we think of these rabbit pellets as

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:09.440
<v Speaker 1>little hard balls. But rabbits also produce another type of

0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:12.480
<v Speaker 1>poop that is softer and more nutrient dense, and we

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:14.840
<v Speaker 1>don't really see this type of poop because they produce

0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:18.440
<v Speaker 1>it in their dens and they typically eat it straight

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:20.520
<v Speaker 1>away right from the source.

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:23.480
<v Speaker 3>They eat it themselves.

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:26.640
<v Speaker 1>They eat it themselves. I mean a lot of animals

0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:30.520
<v Speaker 1>will eat their baby's poop too, and that's for a

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:33.440
<v Speaker 1>number of reasons. Part it's like re extraction of nutrients.

0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:37.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's not just rabbits. It's a lot mice, cows,

0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 1>termites sometimes again it's like nutrient reabsorption. Cows will tell

0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 1>you in a second it could be to conceal the

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:48.560
<v Speaker 1>poop of their offspring from predators or some researchers, especially

0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:50.200
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to cows, think it might be a

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:54.320
<v Speaker 1>strategy to refresh the gut microbiota during about of intestinal disease.

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:57.800
<v Speaker 1>So like when cows are really showing like not good poops,

0:56:57.840 --> 0:56:59.839
<v Speaker 1>will sometimes eat it to be like do I need

0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:01.200
<v Speaker 1>to get something like that?

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:04.000
<v Speaker 3>That's so interesting? Like why would you want to eat

0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:06.320
<v Speaker 3>the poop? You would think like, let me eat my

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:06.920
<v Speaker 3>friends poop.

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 3>If my friend's not pooping bad and I'm pooping bat,

0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:11.919
<v Speaker 3>I'll eat my friends poop. Yeah.

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Let's find the best cap I hear they and make

0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:14.799
<v Speaker 1>a little meal.

0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:16.400
<v Speaker 3>They eat their own I.

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Think they eat their own.

0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 1>And before we turn up our noses at this, it's

0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:24.280
<v Speaker 1>probably too late. Some of the most expensive coffee in

0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the world is made from beans that have passed through

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the bowels of a palm. Civet civit coffee. Coffee. Yeah,

0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Kobe luwak, it's the civic coffee. It's not the only

0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:39.960
<v Speaker 1>prized Pooh products. Okay, there's also ambergriss.

0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Ambergriss? What is that?

0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm so glad you asked. I am so glad

0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:48.760
<v Speaker 1>you asked. I'm just gonna tell you anyway, but well

0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:51.880
<v Speaker 1>tell me that we're asking. For over a thousand years,

0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:55.080
<v Speaker 1>ambergriss has been one of the most valuable and sought

0:57:55.120 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 1>after natural substances. What is it? It is a hardened

0:58:01.280 --> 0:58:06.560
<v Speaker 1>mass of fecal material and undigested squid beaks that forms

0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:09.560
<v Speaker 1>in the intestines and rectum of about five percent of

0:58:09.600 --> 0:58:10.360
<v Speaker 1>sperm whales.

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:12.800
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, yeah, let.

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Me know if you need me to reread.

0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 3>That, can you just so that I can really sure?

0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, hardened mass of fecal material and undigested squid beaks.

0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 3>They're just chunks of yeah.

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:26.720
<v Speaker 1>That forms in the intestines and rectum of about five

0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:28.320
<v Speaker 1>percent of sperm whales five percent.

0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:36.880
<v Speaker 3>So it's basically constipated sperm whale rectal mass exactly. And

0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 3>people eat this or oh, they do.

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:41.800
<v Speaker 1>All kinds of things with it, okay. So the reason

0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:45.160
<v Speaker 1>that it like forms into a hard mass, so of

0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:49.040
<v Speaker 1>course sperm whales eat squids. They can't digest their beaks,

0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:51.320
<v Speaker 1>and so usually they'll vomit the beaks up. That is

0:58:51.400 --> 0:58:56.040
<v Speaker 1>your strategy. Because whale poop is liquid, and if some

0:58:56.120 --> 0:58:58.600
<v Speaker 1>get through all the way, it just gets stuck.

0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:00.680
<v Speaker 3>It's like a beez or exactly. Yeah.

0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:04.160
<v Speaker 1>And so because the the poop, like the rectum can't

0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:06.360
<v Speaker 1>relax enough to let the poop or to let the

0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:09.120
<v Speaker 1>squid beaks through, and so then it just sort of

0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:12.720
<v Speaker 1>forms and forms into these beaks will mold together formatively,

0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:17.000
<v Speaker 1>is masturpated. It's like a hardened ball of huge chunk

0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:21.160
<v Speaker 1>of hardened whale poop and squidbeaks, and what happens there's

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of two different schools with thought. One is that

0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:25.840
<v Speaker 1>finally the rectum relaxes enough to let it out. The

0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:28.160
<v Speaker 1>person whose book I read was like, I don't think

0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:31.400
<v Speaker 1>that happens. I think that it bursts and the whale dies.

0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:34.480
<v Speaker 3>The whale dice. Yeah, so people aren't killing sperm whales

0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 3>to get this. I mean, I know they killed them.

0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 1>There was they would have, and they probably did for

0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:43.680
<v Speaker 1>a while. So for a long time this was called

0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:47.240
<v Speaker 1>floating gold because people were just finding it on the

0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:51.080
<v Speaker 1>surfaces of the ocean and they were like, this smells amazing.

0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:55.000
<v Speaker 1>This is like we could use this for everything. Yeah,

0:59:55.280 --> 1:00:00.160
<v Speaker 1>listen possibly, oh, I mean yeah. Uh and so but

1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:02.200
<v Speaker 1>then it was when whaling kind of picked up in

1:00:02.280 --> 1:00:04.840
<v Speaker 1>the seventeen hundreds eighteen hundreds that people finally were like,

1:00:04.880 --> 1:00:06.800
<v Speaker 1>they would kill a whale and be like, oh my god,

1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:07.800
<v Speaker 1>it's ambergriss.

1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Can you believe it? They kicked it out.

1:00:10.680 --> 1:00:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's the most Finally it was like the

1:00:13.720 --> 1:00:15.960
<v Speaker 1>different theories like, oh, I think it's what I can't

1:00:16.000 --> 1:00:16.520
<v Speaker 1>remember some.

1:00:16.480 --> 1:00:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Of the series.

1:00:17.320 --> 1:00:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, they used it for medicine, a condiment an aphrodisiac,

1:00:24.040 --> 1:00:27.720
<v Speaker 1>and it is still today incorporated as a fixative and

1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:31.160
<v Speaker 1>a musky scent in perfumes. Fixative meaning like it makes

1:00:31.200 --> 1:00:34.479
<v Speaker 1>the smell like the scent stay stronger. So it's still

1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:37.920
<v Speaker 1>used today. And it is I mean floating gold. So

1:00:37.960 --> 1:00:40.920
<v Speaker 1>there was a chunk of ambergris found in nineteen fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>that weighed four hundred and fifty five kilograms massive, massive,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sold then in nineteen fourteen for twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand pounds, which in today's money is three point four

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<v Speaker 1>million pounds or four and a half million dollars, so

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<v Speaker 1>that it's more in gold. It's more than gold. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that is definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>Not right, but okay, uh, this is I am fascinating you.

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<v Speaker 3>If we like checked on the back of like a

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<v Speaker 3>perfume bottle, and if it says ambergriss on it, that

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<v Speaker 3>means it is it is constipated sperm whale.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've never I've never looked at the back

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<v Speaker 1>of a perfume bottle and saw a list of ingredients.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think you would probably be able to find

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<v Speaker 1>perfumes that contain ambergriss. Do you want to know what

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<v Speaker 1>it smells like?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>According to a New Scientist article, it has a rich

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<v Speaker 1>and complex odor consisting of quote, fine tobacco, the wood

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<v Speaker 1>of old churches, the smell of the tide, sandalwood, fresh earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and seaweed in the sun.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe seaweed fresh tide, because let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 3>I've smelled a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I want it to be fine tobacco in the wood

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<v Speaker 1>of old churches stecifically.

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<v Speaker 3>That's quite specific.

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<v Speaker 1>What about an old shirt? You know, there's how old?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't have any answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't either, I have no answers. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>left totally baffled. Still, Okay, Ambergris and Kobe Luoc done.

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<v Speaker 1>They may be treasured as poop novelties. Are you ready

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<v Speaker 1>to move on from Ambergris? Are you ever going to

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<v Speaker 1>be ready? Good? Twelve seconds as But these two, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not the only way that poop can be used. Poop

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<v Speaker 1>can be used as fuel, as insulation, as insect repellent,

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<v Speaker 1>as fertilizer, as building material, as paper. One elephant can

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<v Speaker 1>produce enough dung in one day to make one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen sheets of paper. How do you make paper

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<v Speaker 1>from fiber from the undigested cool plant material?

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<v Speaker 3>And people doing that can I buy elephant poop.

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<v Speaker 1>Paper google it? Okay, yeah, well you know we will

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<v Speaker 1>after this, we'll make some Yeah, we can DNA test

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<v Speaker 1>it to determine the diet of an animal or catch

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<v Speaker 1>a criminal. This was done by matching DNA of dog

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<v Speaker 1>feces at the scene of a crime to dog poop

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<v Speaker 1>on the suspect shoe.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh fascinating, isn't that wild? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean talking about like spinking outside the box.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming from that dog. It was that same pile of poop. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>shcause they.

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<v Speaker 1>Saw it, Like I think in the crime scene photos

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<v Speaker 1>there was like a yeah, like a shmear like the

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<v Speaker 1>dog poop smear, and then someone had it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why you gotta clean your shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, or just like not you know, murder people.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you choose. But poop is so crucial ecologically

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<v Speaker 1>in seed dispersal and parasite transmission. But the most important

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<v Speaker 1>role of poop is in nutrient redistribution. Critters like dung

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<v Speaker 1>beetles that move and berry poop soil microbes that transform

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<v Speaker 1>it into plant food. Animals like hippos and otters that

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<v Speaker 1>live in water and on land, and they move nutrients

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<v Speaker 1>across those boundaries. Oh interesting, whales that beat at lower

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<v Speaker 1>depth and then rise to poop and breathe. They redistribute

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<v Speaker 1>nutrients across that depth. Fish poop and whale poop that

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<v Speaker 1>helps to offset ocean acidification. Like, all of these are

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<v Speaker 1>critical players in the poop nutrient cycle, but we humans

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<v Speaker 1>are making it harder for them to do their work.

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<v Speaker 1>As a planet, we are producing more poop than we

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<v Speaker 1>have ever before produced for more people and more animals, livestock,

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<v Speaker 1>more livestock. Yeah, and it's not even across the landscape.

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<v Speaker 1>History has never seen the likes of the factory farming

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<v Speaker 1>that exists throughout the world today. Okay, I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>you some numbers. So in nineteen sixty one, there were

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<v Speaker 1>approximately four hundred million pigs, nine hundred and forty million

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<v Speaker 1>cows around the world around the world, one point three

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<v Speaker 1>billion sheep and goats, and three point nine billion chickens.

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<v Speaker 1>Just over sixty years later, in twenty twenty three, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the most recent data I could find, we are

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<v Speaker 1>at one billion pigs, which is more than double, one

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<v Speaker 1>point six billion cattle from nine to forty million, two

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<v Speaker 1>point two billion sheep and goats, and from three point

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<v Speaker 1>nine billion chickens in nineteen sixty one, we're at twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine billion chickens.

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<v Speaker 3>And we wonder why bird flu?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we wonder why bird flu? We know exactly why

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<v Speaker 1>bird flu? Yeah, oh my god. And humans have more

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<v Speaker 1>than doubled over that time, from three billion to eight billion.

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<v Speaker 3>But all of those numbers were like more than double

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<v Speaker 3>over the amount of humans.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, each of us humans poops about one percent

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<v Speaker 1>of our body weight a day, so one of our

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<v Speaker 1>entire selves every few months.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, we poop our weight every few months.

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<v Speaker 1>Each year, Domestic animals produce about eight trillion pounds of poop,

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<v Speaker 1>which is ten thousand Empire state buildings or seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>Great Pyramids of Giza.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't poop, can't. I can't poop.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the best visualization because we can even still, how

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<v Speaker 1>do we? How do we envision envisions? And I can

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<v Speaker 1>envision the single Empire states? I know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how much poop. That's more than New York City

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<v Speaker 3>worth of poop?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, yeah, oh I think, Oh, next episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a New York City statistic. But that excess poop,

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<v Speaker 1>that incredible amount of poop that we are pooping now

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't translate into more dung beetles and more nutrient

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<v Speaker 1>dense soils. Like I mentioned at the top, dung beetles

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<v Speaker 1>can be picky about the pooh they use, but even

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<v Speaker 1>those that, like cattle poop are under threat because of

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<v Speaker 1>the pesticides that livestock are treated with, like ivermectin, which

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<v Speaker 1>is then like excreted in their poop and is toxic

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<v Speaker 1>to dung beetles. And so there are like dung beetle

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<v Speaker 1>they are like threatened dung beetles, or like deforestation can

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<v Speaker 1>also reduce dung beetle.

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<v Speaker 3>Relate on other things too, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm singling out dung beetles because they're really charismatic,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, our shirts, like you know, who else would

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<v Speaker 1>want poop on a shirt? But this ripples far beyond

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<v Speaker 1>dung beetle populations, Like we are facing a global poop catastrophe,

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<v Speaker 1>too much of it and in all the wrong places. Potastrophe,

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<v Speaker 1>cock catastrophe. No, actually, I like that, did you say?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a catastrophe that's very funny, Thank you. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, in the past when poop has come

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<v Speaker 1>up on this podcast, it's mostly been in the context

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<v Speaker 1>of like public health, right, Like that wrong place has

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<v Speaker 1>been in our water or our food supplies. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>just one component. What about our farm runoff, our waterways,

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<v Speaker 1>our pasture lands leeched of nutrients, and the poop just

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<v Speaker 1>going down the river?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And so I wanted to use these two episodes to

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<v Speaker 1>approach poop from a different perspective than the typical public

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<v Speaker 1>health one that we usually go with. It's one where

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<v Speaker 1>we suspend our disgust and we consider what poop represents

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<v Speaker 1>not as a waste, but as a hugely valuable substance.

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<v Speaker 1>And hopefully today I have left you with a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more appreciation for crap, or at least some fun

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<v Speaker 1>facts to share. Twelve seconds Ambergris And next week I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go into how we attempted to solve our poop problem

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<v Speaker 1>over the centuries and what the future of waste management

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<v Speaker 1>might hold. And that's all I've got for you today

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<v Speaker 1>on poop. I love it, except for sources erin.

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<v Speaker 3>That was so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's good because we have another episode next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect yay, Oh wow, that was really good. We should

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<v Speaker 3>tell everyone where they could read more.

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<v Speaker 1>Of There is so much I mean, narrowing down the

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<v Speaker 1>narrative for poop was impossible, ridiculous. Yeah, and so there

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<v Speaker 1>is so much more out there that you can read.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you a few examples. So a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of books, one by Joe Roman called Eat, Poop Dye,

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<v Speaker 1>How Animals Make Our worlds?

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<v Speaker 3>Poop Die, Poop Die? What else do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>And then another on this is I think my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>title of a book that I've come across lately. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's by David Waltner. Tow's The Origin of Feces.

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<v Speaker 3>The Origin of Feces, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, it's good. And then there's a paper by Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Clark The Origin of ambergris, and then by Nicols at

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<v Speaker 1>All from twenty from two thousand and eight Ecological Functions

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<v Speaker 1>and Ecosystem Services provided by Scarabina Da dung Beetles. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it, and more on the website.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my sources are not as much like fun because

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<v Speaker 3>I mostly used a textbook that was incredibly boring, but

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<v Speaker 3>shout out to the people who wrote it because it

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<v Speaker 3>was quite useful. It was called the Digestive System from

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<v Speaker 3>Basic Scientis to Clinical Practice. I didn't read the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like four hundred plus pages, but it's quite useful,

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<v Speaker 3>so especially if you want more about poop. I also

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<v Speaker 3>have a few different papers here. There's the Characterization of

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<v Speaker 3>Feces in Urine, A review of the literature to inform

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<v Speaker 3>Advanced treatment technology. I actually really loved that. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a paper from twenty fifteen in Critical Reviews and Environmental

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<v Speaker 3>Science and Technology by Rose at All. And then there

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<v Speaker 3>was a paper that I or a book that I

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<v Speaker 3>only read part of, but I really enjoyed the parts

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<v Speaker 3>that I read, so I'm going to give it a

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<v Speaker 3>shout out. It was called Flush, The Remarkable Science of

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<v Speaker 3>an Unlikely Treasure. Did you read that book? No? It

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<v Speaker 3>was good, it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I looked up so many poop books.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I came across this book, but I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 3>the parts that I read. But there's a whole bunch more.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, there's literally so many more. We'll post them

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<v Speaker 3>all on our website, this post dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>We will. We will thank you again to the provider

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<v Speaker 1>of our first hand account.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I think I can't express enough thank you so

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<v Speaker 3>much for sharing that story with this. I will cry

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<v Speaker 3>laughing thinking about it once again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, me too. Thank you also to Bloodmobile for

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<v Speaker 1>providing the music for this episode and all of our episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>We just say that a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, until next time, wash your hair out, you filthy animals.