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Speaker 1: I put with Alexi Napola and Marisa Patton and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Well hello, my friend, Hey, hey, ah, what's happening? So miya, miya.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to our topics, we need to tell

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Speaker 2: everyone that we're going to be on weekly.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so excited me time, because we

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Speaker 1: have a lot to tie me out.

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Speaker 2: We have so much to talk about. They just turns

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Speaker 2: a month isn't enough. You guys need to hear more

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Speaker 2: of us. If we could go on daily, we could

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Speaker 2: be you know, little that's the next thing. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: be on daily because we.

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Speaker 1: Already here up the whole time. Yeah, you sleep with

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Speaker 1: the talking in your sleep and it would be a

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Speaker 1: great podcast. So yeah, we're gonna be on weekly.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited, and you know, make sure I put

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Speaker 1: feed to see the dates when we air, and please

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Speaker 1: tune in because you know, we're always here with a

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Speaker 1: lot of giggles and a lot of good info and

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Speaker 1: I think great advice.

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Speaker 2: Man Ganta, Man Ganta, I feel like it's been a

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Speaker 2: week with so much news and so many things going

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Speaker 2: on in the world, and it just doesn't stop in Miami,

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Speaker 2: per usual, I have I barely leave the house because

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Speaker 2: the news is so crazy that I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just every two seconds, something else comes down, something

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Speaker 2: else comes up. There you have to go out. I

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Speaker 2: like to go out to just disconnect. And actually, when

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Speaker 2: I'm home, I don't even like to watch the news.

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Speaker 2: It gives me like this thing in my stomach and

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Speaker 2: I just change a channel. I just like rather not know, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's for me, it's like always like bad news. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's why I like The Today Show because it gives

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Speaker 2: you a little bit of news or like topics that

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Speaker 2: you know, hot topics that we talk about, but it's

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Speaker 2: very educational and it's a little refreshing, you know. They

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Speaker 2: do like different segments, so it's a little bit of

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Speaker 2: bad news, but it's also very educational a lot of

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Speaker 2: good news. So that's really like the only show that

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Speaker 2: I like because it has a balance, and I think life,

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Speaker 2: everything in life, everything is about a balance. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sure, But meanwhile, over on the dark side over here

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Speaker 1: where we're watching the daily news, it's crazy, it is, is

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Speaker 1: everything that's going on.

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Speaker 2: But I like that our show is about just like

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Speaker 2: hot topics and fun topics. You know, sometimes it might

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Speaker 2: not be as fun to talk about them. But that's

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Speaker 2: why we got to keep it light, right, and keep

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Speaker 2: it fun and just you know, just have fun with it.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, I mean, I go from the from the

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Speaker 1: television to my phone because I do them both at

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Speaker 1: the same time, and then I'm reading all the like

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Speaker 1: me gossip at the TI on Instagram. Yeah, well, I

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Speaker 1: have to do them both at the same time because

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Speaker 1: I just like I have that add Yeah, and there's

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Speaker 1: so much in housewives news now too. It's incredible. Every day.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's always so much housewife news, right.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, especially for us if we follow those

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Speaker 2: bloggers and those sites that you know are all about housewives,

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Speaker 2: you know, they're on our feed, so whether we like

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. But I mean like I'm just like in

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Speaker 1: the last two or three weeks, every day it's like

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Speaker 2: That means going to come by, like the whole bra

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Speaker 2: shaking up is shaken up. They're shaking it up. And

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Speaker 2: how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 1: My friend? I mean, I feel sad because there's some

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Speaker 1: How are they going to go on without that person?

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Speaker 1: You know? But they always do. They always go.

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Speaker 2: On and they make it a formula, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's you know, it's worked. And speaking of that, when

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Speaker 2: do you think it's a good time to step down

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Speaker 1: Right, that hurts. I'm sure that's hard. That's hard, you know,

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Speaker 2: You just get like so tied up, right, it's kind

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Speaker 1: It's it is, it's a drug. And you're like, you

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Speaker 2: I'm going to come back this season and I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: you know, people are really gonna know who I am,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I'm just constrained everything out. But exactly,

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know, it's like you're so like you

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Speaker 1: Like some you know, part of me is missing, like

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Speaker 2: it's not you know, I've always said that my life

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Speaker 2: When the cameras are here, they get whatever it is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like sometimes someone's leaving, it's like it's

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Speaker 1: little microcosm that we all do and live. That's so rare.

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Speaker 2: Can really happen to any of us. So that's why

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Speaker 2: we got to meet Candace in The Ultimate Girls Trip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Candace Passi Potomac.

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Speaker 2: We love her, yes, And I thought she was and

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Speaker 1: And she was just such a negative downer. No wonder

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Speaker 2: The girls like I liked, and again Candace, I had

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Speaker 2: And I really got to like and love who Candace was.

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Speaker 2: She's beautiful inside and out. She was so smart, she

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Speaker 2: was so articulate. And she can sing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she has that talent. When I heard her

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Speaker 2: She didn't limp sing. No, I didn't even know she

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Speaker 2: I was like Candace, like, you're young, You're beautiful, you're smart,

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Speaker 2: you have so much to offer. You know, you can sing,

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Speaker 2: And I said, you've already done, you know, four or

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Speaker 2: five seasons, and she had done. You know, it's great

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Speaker 2: I don't want the show to like hold you back.

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Speaker 1: I remember this conversation you had with it was very

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Speaker 2: So then she looked at me and she goes, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: social media wasn't a big thing. I had just gone Instagram,

431
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,919
Speaker 2: and even if it was, you know, I was not

432
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 2: ready to share that with the world because I was

433
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 2: so sensitive and I was so you know, involved and

434
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 2: absorbed with just recovering Frankie that there's no way I

435
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,360
Speaker 2: could have shared that. Like, you know, everybody handles their

436
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 2: things differently, and that's what I'm trying to say. That's

437
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,439
Speaker 2: why I applied wordy that has so much courage to

438
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 2: do it. But I just couldn't do it, Marathon. You

439
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 2: know that I just couldn't know, And that's why I recited.

440
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't even like it wasn't even like

441
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 2: a conversation like it was down. It was like, I

442
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 2: just can't do it. Yeah, it was just too.

443
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 1: Too big and too raw and too really like it

444
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 1: was very real. It was real. It was a tragedy

445
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 1: and it was you could have never even put this

446
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: on television. Yeah, it was. It was really bad.

447
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 2: So I, you know, and it was different times too,

448
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: I feel like, and I think that luckily for me,

449
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 2: you know, I was protected with that because I feel

450
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 2: like nowadays, you know, the world is so like everybody

451
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 2: wants to know everything. There's like no privacy and everything

452
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: wants everybody wants to document everything. And you know, okay, yes, awareness,

453
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 2: but you know, you have to be sensitive towards at

454
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: least meet medical issues. And I can say that because

455
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: I went through it myself and I was not ready.

456
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I just couldn't do it. I just couldn't

457
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 2: do it. And that's why we're going to be talking.

458
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 2: We're going to get into Ky Middleton now, because I can.

459
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: Relate to her.

460
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 2: You know, I think like things about divorce or litigation

461
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: or different things that aren't medical or easier, but something

462
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: that's life or death that affects you, affects your family

463
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 2: like that. You don't know until happens to you how

464
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 2: you're going to react to this. And it's not that

465
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 2: you want to keep anything from the world, because everybody

466
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 2: would ask me the same thing.

467
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 1: But it's franky.

468
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 2: And again, there was no social media, thank the Lord

469
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 2: writing these stories, and there was no Page six calling

470
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: me and there was no you know, daily mail, there was.

471
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 1: Nothing of that. Thank god. You know what you need

472
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: to You need to have your mind as peaceful as

473
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: it can be a lot of white light around you

474
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with medical issues. You don't want a

475
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: ton of people thinking, asking, speculating, breathing down your neck.

476
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: It's just the time of pulling yourself together and getting

477
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: tough and really having good energy around you when we're

478
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: dealing with health issues.

479
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,719
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, you already have the pressure of dealing

480
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 2: with it within your family, because a tragedy like this,

481
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: you know, destroys the family. It breaks the family. It

482
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 2: makes you together, but it's it's just so so hard

483
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: for family when you have kids and and and that's

484
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: why I really respect how everybody handles their medical emergencies because.

485
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 1: That's very the way that they do.

486
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: Because it's a very person thing and we really don't

487
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 2: owe anything to the world. I think that we need

488
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: to to make ourselves better and be ready to open

489
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: up to the world and be able to share something

490
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: like that.

491
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I mean after the fact, after you've been

492
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: through it and you've you've kind of you know, healed

493
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: as much as you can. Then you come back and

494
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: tell everyone your story when you're ready to tell them

495
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: your story. I think a lot of people do it

496
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: that way.

497
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: And that's how I see k Middleton. You know the

498
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 2: fact that she was missing, you know, for a few months,

499
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: and people were speculating, and they had all these different theories,

500
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: you know all I said, I was actually really worried,

501
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,479
Speaker 2: and you can, like ask Todd. I was like, I'm

502
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 2: believe like if I knew her, like if she was

503
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: like my friend.

504
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, was really worried about her? No,

505
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 1: me too.

506
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: And when I saw it on the because I told you,

507
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: I don't I don't watch the news that I don't

508
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: really follow, like I tell you, I'm like Harley on

509
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 2: social media, the whole thing. But when I saw it,

510
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 2: like on Channel six or seven here, and I was like,

511
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 2: oh my god, babe, I told you Ky Middleton and

512
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm really worried about her.

513
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, you know, maybe, you.

514
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: Know, everybody was speculating the same thing, that she was

515
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: having marital problems and this, that and the other.

516
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: You know what. I thought that too. When I saw

517
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: that he was having an affair, I was like, he's.

518
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: Just like his fathers, and.

519
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 1: That was one of the speculations that he was having

520
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: an affair, and I was like, he's just like this,

521
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a new lady in town, just

522
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: like Camilla. I thought for that one.

523
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: I didn't because I didn't, you know, I'm so like,

524
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: that's what I love about.

525
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: Me, That's what about you.

526
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I do is the fact that I'm

527
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: not influenced by the media or by other people, like

528
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 2: I have my idea and that's why I was like,

529
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: legit concerned. I was like, something terrible has to be

530
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,239
Speaker 2: happening to this woman. And I honestly even had her

531
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: in my prayers. I was like, there's just no way

532
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: something happened.

533
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,959
Speaker 1: You're very tragic. You were with something. Well.

534
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 2: I always pray for a lot of things that bother

535
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: me to take away my piece, and that was one

536
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: of them. I was like, what is like, something happened

537
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: to this woman? Like something, I mean, she's going through

538
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: something horrible, because the only way that you can disconnect

539
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: from the world and her being a public person, is

540
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 2: when you're going through something so horrible that you can't

541
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 2: even wake up in the morning and and talk and

542
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: you know, and I.

543
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: Can relate to that because that's how it was.

544
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: I didn't want to see anybody, I didn't want to

545
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 2: talk to anybody. So that's and again I'm not even

546
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: comparing myself to her, but that's like I can see that.

547
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: I was like, she has to be going through something

548
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: so horrific. And it's not that her husband cheated on earth.

549
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 2: I thought that was like whatever.

550
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: That that wasn't. That wasn't. That was actually news from

551
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: a few years ago too, that they were speculating that

552
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: he was still with this woman that they were saying

553
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: that he had had an affair with before, right, So

554
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: that's why, I mean.

555
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: That's another that's another story, right because I mean that's

556
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 2: the other thing you get from being in the public

557
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: eye that everybody's always going to speculate and there's always

558
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: going to be a story out there. But again, I

559
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: was sincerely, sincerely concerned about her.

560
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,239
Speaker 1: I think it's been a learning lesson for everyone that

561
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: was on her.

562
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not want to go on social media

563
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 2: anyways and you know, and make remarks and make you

564
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 2: know about other people, like that's not my style. So

565
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: I'm never there but first of all, I didn't think

566
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: it and I didn't even Yeah.

567
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: Just a lot of the talk show hosts were making

568
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: fun of her, right, But I know about.

569
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: It, right, so we know that The view hosts expressed

570
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: remorse for fueling the conspiracy theories surrounding Kate Middleton's whereabouts

571
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: following the royal's recent cancer announcement. On Monday's episode of

572
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: the Daytime talk show, the women addressed Middleton's diagnosis with

573
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: Whoopy Goldberg asking the table what their thoughts were, and

574
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 2: obviously they all said they felt awful. Whoopy was right,

575
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: and I'm guilty of getting into the fun of worst

576
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: Kate and thinking it's funny and sharing the memes and

577
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: playing into that.

578
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: Can I just say something about the view, because you know,

579
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: since I'm retired, aside from the show, I spent a

580
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: lot of time in front of the time television. They're so

581
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: negative on there that everyone's actually so negative on the View.

582
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: It's gotten so hard to watch. And I used to

583
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: enjoy it, and I just don't anymore. And so I'm

584
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: not surprised that they did all of this, but they

585
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: come back in the world. I mean, are you're talking

586
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: about the view? Everybody's just no.

587
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 2: I know, but I'm just saying like in general, not

588
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: that you bring that up. I don't watch the view,

589
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: but I do remember and recall liking it, and I

590
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: have seen different clips and they are they're like angry,

591
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 2: they're like mean, and a lot of these talk shows

592
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: are about that. But I feel like it's the whole

593
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: world Maraso. It's like on social media, it's like TV shows,

594
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: it's you know, the talk It's like it's all this

595
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: hate and all this anger, and it talks so much

596
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: freedom of speech. There's no empathy, there's no compassion. I mean,

597
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: that is wrong with people.

598
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: I think, well, you know what it's like. It's like

599
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: when you're in a working environment. If you have one

600
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: grumpy person in the office, then everyone starts to become grumpy.

601
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: It's like that one bad apple ruins the whole bunch,

602
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: and now the whole world is just becoming like this way.

603
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: Everyone gets on social media and attacks you for no reason.

604
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm horrified at the things some people write me.

605
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 2: Well, do you see why why I don't like it?

606
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: I was you see why I don't like it? I

607
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: was so happy when they almost were taking off TikTok.

608
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, get wit old because

609
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: I'm not on that platform, and I just think it's toxic.

610
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: I just think it's toxic, the whole social media thing.

611
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: Like I can just sit here for hours and you know,

612
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: talking about all the negative stuff. There might be two

613
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: or three good stuff, some pros, but I feel just

614
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: more negative and just and it's heaving the world.

615
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: They were saying that the the view that the palace

616
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: totally mishandled the pr and then you know, as a consequence,

617
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: the public mishandled it, spreading all the rumors. But I

618
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: actually kind of think, I don't know what you say,

619
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: told me what you think that they didn't know the

620
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: gravity of the situation because the family wasn't really sharing

621
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: with anybody until the hospital leaked it and then everything

622
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: turned out to be worse than they had expected. And

623
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: then by that point everybody was like, where's our princess?

624
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: Because you know, the whole world's looking for their future

625
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: queen because she disappeared for two months, and you know, no,

626
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: I can't understand that. Right. Of course, they found out

627
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: afterwards that she was quite ill. They were probably trying

628
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: to organize themselves as a family internally before they even

629
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: shared it with anybody to even handle pr properly. They

630
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: I think they found out too late that she was

631
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: so unwell, and so they sat on it. Abo Draive

632
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: the rumor real just went rampant, right Yeah, But I mean,

633
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: I think it's a lesson to everybody.

634
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I feel like it's a lesson to

635
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: everybody that everybody's doing with personal struggles and sometimes you

636
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: have no idea about it and you just have to,

637
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: you know, just give the person whoever, maybe whether it's

638
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: the princess or whether it's just a regular person, the

639
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: time and when they're ready to share.

640
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: What they're going through, they're going to open up and

641
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: they're going to share it. And in that.

642
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: Case, she herself gave the whole when she was ready

643
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: that she can put herself together. And then she was

644
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: medically cleared because she did have the abdomen surgery and

645
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: I guess as the result of that, that's when they

646
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: found out that, right she had the cancer.

647
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: Cancer. I'm really worried about her. I'm worried.

648
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: No, I mean I am too, you know, I'm hoping

649
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: and she's doing the preventive chemotherapy that that's going to work.

650
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: But you know, imagine this woman going through that news,

651
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: just receiving that news, Marasol. It's just like, you know,

652
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: your whole world is shattered, like and it's a lesson

653
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: to everyone that it's like your life changes in a

654
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: second second, in a second. I mean, I'm sure she

655
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: was just going in for like an autom and surgery.

656
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: Maybe something was bothering hairs, like a lot of people

657
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: have about the surgery, and that was the news. So

658
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: it's like just taking that in thinking of you know,

659
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: her children, her husband, just everything, you know, and William's father, Charles,

660
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: is also sick with cancer. It's like your whole world

661
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: falls apart, and then you're dealing with the other world,

662
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: you know, saying all these rumors and lies and speculations.

663
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: You know, she's not like a regular celebrity because let's

664
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: face it, if you know, you know, for example, look

665
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: at Bruce Willis, he hasn't been well. They've shared a

666
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: little bit here and there. They don't explode. I think

667
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: they shared from the beginning, but a little bit here

668
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: and there, Like they don't put him on camera and

669
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: showing him talking and ill or anything like that, right,

670
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: there's no need for them. But but you know, nobody

671
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: would have noticed if they hadn't brought it up. But

672
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: people do look for the queen, you know, because they are.

673
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: Somebody like her that had all her duties. And you know,

674
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: we did know that she had gone in for surgery.

675
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: I think where they went wrong was the fact that

676
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: when they received the results of the surgery and that

677
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: new information, they didn't know how to handle it absolutely

678
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: and they got scared. I mean, and they all are royalty,

679
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: so they controlled the media on everything, so they were

680
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: like no, I mean, they just you know, we're not insided.

681
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 1: We don't know like if they would have done any

682
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: different now, they really can't have privacy in a family

683
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: like that. They're not like other celebrities that can just

684
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: disappear and then come back, new movie, new album after

685
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: a couple of years. People don't notice when they're gone,

686
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: but when you were in the public eye like that,

687
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: and you know, position of like of that magnitude, people notice.

688
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: And so oh, absolutely absolutely.

689
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: So.

690
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert addresses backlash over Kate Middleton jokes maybe for

691
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: her cancer announcement. I do not make light of somebody

692
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: else's tragedy we do a lot of shows. I tell

693
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: a lot of jokes. I tell jokes about a lot

694
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: of different things, mostly about when everybody is talking about.

695
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: Colbert says, for the last six weeks to two months,

696
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: everybody has been talking about the mystery of Kate Middleton's

697
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: disappearance from the public. Two weeks ago. We did some

698
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: jokes about that mystery when I made when I made

699
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: those jokes that upset some people even before her diagnosis

700
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: was revealed. I can understand that a lot of my

701
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: jokes have upset people in the past, and some of

702
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: my jokes will upset people in the future. But there's

703
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: a standard that I try to hold myself to, and

704
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: that is that I do not make light of somebody

705
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: else's tragedy. Well, you know, because that's what it is.

706
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: It's a tragedy. It really is a tragedy. He just

707
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: jumped on that bandwagon like everybody else with the speculation

708
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: and the jokes, and you know, and unfortunately it was

709
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: something really horrible that was really at the you know

710
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: the surface of all of this. Well, I'll see.

711
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: So do you think the public was too harsh in

712
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: the speculation or do.

713
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: You think, yeah, but the problem is that if you

714
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: let people's minds wander, they will go to the most

715
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: drastic situation and throw it out there. So they had

716
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: zero information, so everybody speculated and then it became jokes

717
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: and then you know, like we talked about the social

718
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: media and the television, it just gets out of control

719
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: and it's very toxic. So yeah, they overdid it, but

720
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: they had no info. Right. I feel a lot of

721
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: people are remorseful because yeah they are now they have

722
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: to be there and they have to be like idiots.

723
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: They have to be right.

724
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: I mean they have to be after you know, the

725
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: presentation that she gave and how she opened up you know, herself,

726
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: and how vulnerable she was and with the paint that

727
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: she spoke about. I mean, you have to be remorseful.

728
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: And I think it's just a lesson to everyone you

729
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: know too, yeah you know themselves back, you know, to

730
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: give people before you speculate.

731
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Well I unfortunately, my friend, I don't think

732
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: people are going to do that. You know, it's a

733
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: week later and there's no news and do things out

734
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: and I'm reading stuff online and it's just crazy. So

735
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: do you crazy?

736
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 2: So so you were saying that you that you think

737
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: that she is a pri as a public figure, she

738
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: doesn't have the right to privacy.

739
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately, in her position as future queen, people will

740
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: notice when she's not around. Like I said before, she

741
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: is actually wrong. It was it was actually very wrong,

742
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: yes for her, for her, but other celebrities can get

743
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: away with it. There's so many singers, there's so many actors.

744
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: But do you think public figures do you think they

745
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: have the right to privacy.

746
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: I think everybody has a right to privacy, but I

747
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: don't think she's allowed to have privacy. She's not different

748
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: than other celebrities.

749
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that makes sense. I understand she's not

750
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: just the public figure. She's like the face of her country.

751
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: She's like the future queen. She's the princess.

752
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: Yes, and people notice if they didn't.

753
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: She has public duties, right, and it's been a long time,

754
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: so yeah, right, you know, I think looking back the

755
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 2: you know, the they would have.

756
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: Handled it differently. I think, well, you know what, I

757
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: think in the end, it worked out fine because now

758
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: everyone feels like an asshole, like shit, oh exactly, good on,

759
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: like shit and good good on, you know. Unfortunately for her,

760
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, they do.

761
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: Have you ever and have you ever dealt with something

762
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: private and you were were forced to make it public

763
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: because sometimes you're dealing through something private and you're like

764
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: forced to make a public I did.

765
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: I did, and you were there with me when we

766
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: were started filming season three and my mom fell and

767
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: she couldn't film anymore, and everybody was like, where's Elso,

768
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: where's ELSEO? Where's also? What's Elsa? And of course I

769
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: wanted too protective mode that's my mother, and I obviously,

770
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, shared things in a very light, over the

771
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: top manner and didn't really share the gravity of her situation.

772
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: I said, she fell, she had some brain surgery, She's

773
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. I actually thought she would be okay.

774
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: She never did get better, and then you know, I

775
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: understand like what the royal family has done. I wanted

776
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: to protect I protected her, and I I you know,

777
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: I didn't let people come see her because I wanted

778
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: her to have dignity because she was in a really

779
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: bad way, as you know you saw her, and it

780
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: just was easier to not have people see her and

781
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: then go out and talk about how she really was.

782
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: So I hid her and I didn't tell the whole

783
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: truth because you know, again because it was painful. I mean,

784
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: it's still does sting me. Right, you need to understand,

785
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: like you're going through this pain and it's just so

786
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: hard within yourself and your family. Then to share it,

787
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: you just need a moment, you know, you just need

788
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: them on the top of that. You know, I kept thinking,

789
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: she's remember I tell you, she's gonna be fine. She's

790
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: gonna get better, She's gonna get better. And I kept thinking,

791
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: she's gonna get better if she heard I told everyone

792
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: that she was laid up at a bed and I didn't

793
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: let anyone come visit. She is going to kill me.

794
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: So but I you know, I did what I thought

795
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: was best. You know, like like children don't come with

796
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: a handbook, parents don't come with the handbook. Illness doesn't

797
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: come with a handbook. It's a play by play. You go,

798
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: you go with your heart in the moment, and you

799
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: try to do your best, you know, try to do

800
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: your best. I just wanted her to have some dignity

801
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: in her in her life and in her illness and

802
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: in her last you know, years of her life. It

803
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: was hard, and I know you went through something so

804
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: similar to you know. Yeah, I mean I've gone through

805
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: it a lot.

806
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: I've gone through a lot of things that you know,

807
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: that were private, and a lot of families consider it

808
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: private and you're forced to share it with the world

809
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: because it becomes public. Yeah, and then you just feel

810
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 2: like sometimes you just have to go out and speak.

811
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: And you know, a lot of times I decide, you know,

812
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: I've decided not to do that and not to give

813
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: it more light. But but you know, like I said,

814
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 2: every family handles it differently. And for me, the medical

815
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: like what you went through with your mom, what I

816
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: went through with Frankie, what you know Kate Middleton's going

817
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: through is is you know, it's completely different. It's it's

818
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: completely different when you're dealing with health and with something

819
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 2: that's medical.

820
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and I know we've talked about this a lot.

821
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have to rip that band aid off

822
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: and tell your story because you can't have other people

823
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: tell it for you because they will just screw it

824
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: up and do it one hundred percent. That's why she

825
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: wanted to do it.

826
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: She didn't want the house, you know, the royal the

827
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: house of the Royal family, you know, speak on her behalf.

828
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: She wanted to be ready, and that's why I thought

829
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 2: it was so impactful because we heard it from her mouth.

830
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't the media controlling the news. It was her.

831
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: So I respect her so much and my prayers are

832
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: with her and her family.

833
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, mine too, my friend. Well, let's make this

834
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: a little bit like a little bit lighter. Let's light

835
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: it up. Yeah, let's talk about Shakira.

836
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, we could get really emotional

837
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: and sensitive, but you.

838
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: Know I already am. I'm over here tearing up. Yeah.

839
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: I get so upset about how things they just really

840
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: bust me up. Mm hmmm, same for me.

841
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: But you know, speaking of making this lighter, we can

842
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: talk about Shakira and and how she's free from her husband.

843
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 2: You see, this is what I'm talking about. I'm talking

844
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: about it's so different to talk about your husband and

845
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: a divorce and a breakup, even though a lot of

846
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: times it is very sad and it is painful, I'm

847
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 2: not taking away from that, but it's a completely different monster.

848
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: It's a completely different thing.

849
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: Than like fighting for life, right right, That's the point

850
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: that I'm trying to say.

851
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: Because according to Shakira, she's free. Yeah, she's free. Well

852
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: that's she's learned to deal with it by you know,

853
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: making herself feel better like she's free and now she

854
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: can do her music.

855
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: And right, well, I think just like her, you know.

856
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: And I feel this like a lot about about a

857
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: lot of celebrity couples and just regular couples as well.

858
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: The fact that you don't really share that you're going

859
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: your different you know, your separate ways until it's really there.

860
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: But I felt like they've been dealing with this from before.

861
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: It wasn't like they just woke up one day and

862
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: announced it to the world that you know, they're breaking

863
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: up or that they're getting a divorce.

864
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: She was probably given it the college char like many

865
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: of us women do or men do. When someone's cheating.

866
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: You just hang in there and you figure you can

867
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: fix it until you figure out that it's unfixable. And

868
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: so yeah, and anyway, well that pain of hers helped

869
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: her turn into money. It turned into money because you

870
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: know what a hit song.

871
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 2: Yes, so I love that. I love that these singers,

872
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: you know, I love that Taylor Swift can do that.

873
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: I love that Shakira can do that. And Selena been

874
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 2: pulling out some music here and there, like she says,

875
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: but it was really hard for me. This is Shakira speaking.

876
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: It was really hard for me to put together a

877
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 2: body of work. Shakira said of why the release is happening. Now,

878
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 2: you see, I didn't have time.

879
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: Like you know, you have to give. People are gonna speculate, Oh,

880
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: why was it happened?

881
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: Twenty million reasons And she's actually speaking out and she's like,

882
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: I didn't have time. It was the husband factor. Now

883
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: I'm husbandless. Yeah, the husband was dragging me down and

884
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 2: now I'm free. Now I can actually work. Mmm.

885
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: I love how she said he was dragging making her down.

886
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, And a lot of relationships is that we're

887
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: going to talk about that now, right. Shakira still seems

888
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: a bit sour about the breakup, you know, because I

889
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: feel like that takes a long time, and especially the

890
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: kind of breakup that she had where he like he

891
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: humiliated her. It was it was like a lot of

892
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: stuffcause're right, every breakup is different. We need to establish

893
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: that too. And again they're a very public her and

894
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: pick Air very public, so it's like it's so much harder.

895
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: I think the gravity of being dumped is way worse

896
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 1: than being the dumper, and then you're kind of.

897
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: Just and even if you're planning on dumping, but if

898
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: the guy dumps you before, because you know, sometimes if

899
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: that's the case.

900
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: I was gonna do it, right, the double cross.

901
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: Dumpthing that a lot of times I agree with you.

902
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: I mean, even though sometimes you think it's better, Like

903
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: for a lot of people, it's hard for them to

904
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: do it. So then when the other person dealt is like,

905
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: oh God, thank god you did it, because like I

906
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: felt really bad about doing it to you. So I

907
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: don't know what their case is. But are you forgiving?

908
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: Are you a forgiving person?

909
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: Right?

910
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: If someone does something wrong to you, do you just

911
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: cut them out completely? Like?

912
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: Is it someone?

913
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: Or talk about a guy, Like, let's say a guy

914
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: if he does something to you, do you just cut

915
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: him out of your life completely? Or do you think

916
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: you can still be friends with him?

917
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: I've actually, when I think about it, like the worst

918
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: experience I've had with somebody is yeah, I literally it

919
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: was my last relationship. You know of it? It keeps

920
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: counting me on the show I walked away. I never

921
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: believe it. It's haunting you. Yeah, and here we're gonna

922
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: have to talk about it again. It just and I

923
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: was I got he was leaving my bank yesterday and

924
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: there he was walking right by. I had to hide

925
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: in the banker, I know, I had to hide in

926
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: the bank until we walked down the street to get

927
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: in my car because I didn't want to even be

928
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: faced with him alone in the street. And I cut

929
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: him off completely, as you know, I never spoke to

930
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: him again, never conversed with him again. And any of

931
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: my friends that were became friends with him and stayed

932
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: friends with him, and cut them off to and I

933
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: did a clean slate because for me, that's just the

934
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: way I heal and the way I move on. I

935
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: cannot have any more communication. I'm done, I'm finished. It's over.

936
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: It's just. But that's like the worst breakup I ever

937
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: had in my life. It was just and it's continued

938
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: to drag out to this day, like other people keep

939
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: bringing it up, like I want to hear about it.

940
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: I want to hear about it. It's someone I live

941
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: with for like three years, and I don't want to

942
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: hear about it anymore. And so yeah, I had to

943
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: cut it out because it was like a cad about it.

944
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that you didn't have to say that. But yeah,

945
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: so you feel like that, but it's it's not even

946
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: like your bit sour. I mean, it's just like it

947
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: wasn't a good breakup, so like why do you even

948
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: want to talk about it?

949
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: I you know, I get it. It was a learning lesson.

950
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: I've done that with friends too. You know, that's just

951
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm a Capricorn and that's just in my in my sign.

952
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: You know, when we're done, we cut, and we're done

953
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: and it's over forever and I don't look back.

954
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, in her case, she's going to have

955
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: she can't really cut because she has two kids kids

956
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: with them. Yeah, so you know, I feel like when

957
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: you have kids, it's like it's forever, my friend. It's

958
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: like you pay for it, you know, it's like that's

959
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: the price that you pay. It's like it's forever. It's

960
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: different because obviously the kids grow up and you know,

961
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: after their eighteen, you know, truthfully supposedly you don't really

962
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: need to have the other parent involved. But until then,

963
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: you know, it's like this you know, entanglement that you have,

964
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: like whether you like it or not, you're going to

965
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: hear about them because the kids are going to come

966
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 2: back and forth and talk about their dad or whatever.

967
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: In this case, you know, he's a very public person,

968
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: so she's going to read about it or say about it.

969
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm so happy that she just like

970
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: you know, moved.

971
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: On with her life.

972
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: And you know, she's not a great comeback, you know, Yeah,

973
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: I got to come back, and I love a comeback,

974
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 2: and I'm so happy for her. I think that it's

975
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: been easy for her to do because she's so talented

976
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 2: and she was always a singer that people loved, right,

977
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: She's always like so sweet, so cute, you know, and

978
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: she's such a great singer and performer. So for her,

979
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: it's been easy to do. So I'm happy for her.

980
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: But do you think that women should just give up

981
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: their careers or like put them on pause, you know,

982
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: like Shakira did for PK, or like even Mendez is

983
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: kind of doing with Ryan to be a full mom

984
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: of a full time mom, or do you think that

985
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: they should support their husbands because they're superstars. So here

986
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: we're talking about like couples that they're both it's like

987
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: power couples, so that they're both equal, they're both you know,

988
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 2: have actor, actors and careers. They're both you know, good

989
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: at what they do and they're superstars.

990
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it depends on where you are

991
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: in your life, right, you know, maybe you were a

992
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: child star and you no longer you know, desire that anything.

993
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: But in this case, for example, Shakier has expressed she

994
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: did it she was very jealous.

995
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: Every case is different, though it's very difficult to say.

996
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I know for myself when I had my company,

997
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: I was a terrible wife, a terrible The answer is no.

998
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: Let me just make for the answers no, because you

999
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: know what answer now when you do that, not for

1000
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: a man. You should do it for yourself. Like I

1001
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: like that, even meant to says I'm doing this because

1002
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: I want to do it, not because Ryan's making me

1003
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: do it because I want to be a full time

1004
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 2: mom and I want to be with my kids.

1005
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: So that's different. You have to decide for yourself if

1006
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: that's for you. You know what I've learned.

1007
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: You know what I've learned that all these women that

1008
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: have done it because of the man, it's come back

1009
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: to bite them and they all regret it. Because again,

1010
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 2: you should do it for yourself. Because it makes you happy,

1011
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: not because it makes the man happy. Because the last

1012
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: thing I feel not they do it to you. Look

1013
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: at what he did to her after she didn't sing

1014
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: for all those years. Yes, she was a full time,

1015
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: devoted mom. So you know I don't Yeah, I really

1016
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: do think that women should do this for themselves. You

1017
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: have to support your your partner. But just because you're

1018
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 2: a bigger star than me, or you're making more money

1019
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: than me, doesn't mean that I'm going to give up

1020
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: something that I love to make you happy again if

1021
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: it makes you happy, Like I always wanted to be

1022
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 2: a full time mom, so you know, it was making

1023
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: me happened the years that I did it, I loved it,

1024
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: and that's what I did. But then when I was

1025
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 2: ready to work, listen, this is what I want to

1026
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: do now, and that's what I want to work. I

1027
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: want to work now. I want to do this, I

1028
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: want to do that. And you need a partner that

1029
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: supports you.

1030
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: Well, here miss something on some sort of a power

1031
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: trip like you know you sol macho and I'm just

1032
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: a Yeah, I'm a puppy choo. I'm gonna be the

1033
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: one that makes the money. I'm gonna be the star,

1034
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: and you're gonna stay home and you're gonna your little

1035
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: star is gonna fade away. But you know, but you

1036
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: know what she's talking about. She regrets it, and she

1037
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: she's not gonna make that mistake again. Right, she learned.

1038
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: We always learned from our bad choices, especially in relationships,

1039
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: because I always try to pick somebody very different from

1040
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: the last person I was with. I think I finally

1041
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: got it right.

1042
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: I mean, not everybody learns from I mean, I'm not

1043
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: saying that was a mistake. I'm not saying because you know,

1044
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: I don't like to call them mistakes. I like to

1045
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: call them lessons if we're right. But I think in retrospect,

1046
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 2: I think what she's saying is like she's probably reflecting

1047
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: and saying, you know what, I I don't know that

1048
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: that was best decision because she really didn't make it

1049
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: for herself. And that's really like the point here. When

1050
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: you do it for yourself, like you know, it's different,

1051
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 2: like Okay, I'm going to give up doing this because

1052
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 2: it doesn't make me happy anymore, and I'm just going

1053
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: to do this. But when they make you do it,

1054
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 2: which is kind of like that, I think that's why

1055
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: she's so bitter.

1056
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1057
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, luckily for her, she has talent, right,

1058
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: she's still young, she's still beautiful, she still has talent,

1059
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: and she came back, didn't come back, and she's always

1060
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: going to be shining. And I'm super proud for her.

1061
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: But we're proudly Shakira. Can I just say one thing

1062
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: about me as a wife, I'm a much better wife

1063
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: now that I don't have a job. I'm a fun,

1064
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: happy wife. And I'm a much better partner now that

1065
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm not all stressed out with work like I was before.

1066
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: I was not a good partner when I had my job.

1067
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: Okay, well I mean that was you but you know

1068
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 2: that was different, you know. And she has kids, so

1069
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: at least she was you know with her kids, and

1070
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: you know she went to all the games. I mean,

1071
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, I really didn't you know, follow her

1072
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: life that way. But I know that a lot of

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00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: people talk about Eva men does the same.

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Speaker 3: Thing like you and me, because because she's and she

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00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: married a grigg married get there.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: And I've always like she's a great actress too. She's

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00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 2: another one that could do a comeback. I'm like that's

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00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: what I want her to do. But you know what,

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00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 2: she's not ready. So it's not what I want or

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00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: O Ryan wants, it's what she wants. You know, I'm

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00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: sure down the line, she's so young, beautiful, nobody's taking

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00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: away her talent, you know, of being you know, an actress,

1084
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: so she can always go back to that. But you know,

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00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: that's the beauty of it. But I feel like she's

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00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: satisfied being at home, and she's not doesn't want to

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00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: live in Los Angeles, and she really wants to be

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00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: that you know, devoted mom and spend time with her

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00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: kids and with her husband and.

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Speaker 1: Y as women.

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00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: They live in Los Angeles, but she wants to move

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Speaker 2: like outside of Los Angeles because she doesn't want to

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00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: bring up her children in that environment, you know, like

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00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: all the brats that live in LA you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Guess come to I was hoping the Cubans, you know,

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Speaker 1: let do my if they're in't too badcelon Hollywood, come

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Speaker 1: to Miami, Packadora.

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Speaker 2: That's how I feel, you know, I feel that we

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00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 2: should not do anything like to make the man happy

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00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: or to make anybody happy. You know, it's a decision

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00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: like that we have to make on our.

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00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: Own, make a just drastic alteration of your life for

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00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: somebody else's happiness. Because and then you're bitter.

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00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean you should again, just it should be

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00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: on you. You should be like, Okay, I'm happy with

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00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 2: this decision. But I think that that's why she's like

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00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: so bitter, because you know she regrets.

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00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: Oh, you're not talking about Eva anymore.

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00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: We're talking about Shakira. No, no, never's case. I think

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00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: she's super happy. Me too, it was super happy, you know,

1111
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: being at home Olympiano because she loves me just like me.

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00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: She loves all that, you know, and I I think

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00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: that that's great. Like I wanted to do that too,

1114
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: So I did that for a couple of years, and

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00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: then I got bored and I was like, you know what,

1116
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go to work. So it's like it

1117
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: should be the woman should be the one making that decision.

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00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: And by the way, a lot of women I'm still

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00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: way because I can still keep on talking.

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Speaker 1: I know you can a lot of women.

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00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: I know that you said you're a better woman and

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00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: wife now that you're not working, but a lot of

1123
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 2: women will say the opposite and say that they are

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00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 2: better women and wives because they do have a job

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00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 2: and a profession and they're fulfilled.

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00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: With what they do.

1127
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 2: So then they come home and they're better moms and

1128
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: they're better wives. So you know, every case is different differently. Yeah,

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00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: I mean I've tried it all, and I think, you know,

1130
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: I've tried to be the best. Whether you know, I'm

1131
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: working and and there's still time for my kids and

1132
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: for my husband, and you know, when I'm not working,

1133
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: I could still like it doesn't like really affect me.

1134
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: But again, I think if you want to be happy,

1135
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: I think it's important for you to make that decision,

1136
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 2: not for anyone to make it for you.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I you know, by the way, just to

1138
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 1: make it clear, I was in over in my head.

1139
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: I was running a company with a lot of employees,

1140
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: and everything was on my shoulders by myself, so and

1141
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I just distress was too much

1142
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: for me to even have any love or patience or

1143
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: or calmness.

1144
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: Balance Like I didn't do Yeah, because I mean I

1145
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: remember like how you worked, so it's like that was

1146
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: like too much.

1147
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: You were like too hard on yourself. I was just

1148
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: I was not a good partner. Now I'm an excellent partner.

1149
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: Well, Bouber has the best of you, and I'm happy

1150
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, and you're an excellent friend too, my friend.

1151
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you.

1152
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: Until you have your other friends. No, I cut everybody out.

1153
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a Capricorn. If you if you just

1154
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: stop blaming the zodiac.

1155
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: I was actually just talking about it.

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00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Your sign has nothing to do with how

1157
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: you are. Two of my other closest friends, I'm sorry

1158
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: their close friends are Capricorn and they're just like me.

1159
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: We cut people out like this. No, man, who because

1160
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: you're out and it's done, and I don't look back,

1161
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, yeah I do. I got a handful of time.

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Speaker 1: I'm lucky to still be here. You're not going anywhere.

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00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: You're stuck with me.

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00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, next, okay, okay, lunch, lunch.

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Speaker 2: for listening.

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