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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast Cannot Stop the Rise of

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Speaker 1: Bridget from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I am Dan hanss I got Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: Here a lot, a lot of buzz about Bridget. Some

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Speaker 1: people were triggered by the robot relax, some people seem

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Speaker 1: to really enjoy it. What manufactured joke. But again, the

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Speaker 1: biggest concern is that she seems to be growing beyond

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Speaker 1: the control of her creator. And that's a big issue. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's all get two thou and one space odyssey here

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Speaker 1: in our real life. But you you, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: you spent a lot of time telling us how much

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Speaker 1: effort and work and toil you put into creating a

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Speaker 1: better version, a two point o version of Bridget, and

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Speaker 1: she spun out of control. She's power hungry, um an

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Speaker 1: unlikable butt. So my job, well do you find a

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Speaker 1: likable she's calling you out on some things. I mean,

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Speaker 1: she might be my future boss. So I just think

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Speaker 1: she's doing what she can and uh, I think, look,

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Speaker 1: we've done this show ten years. This is a nice

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Speaker 1: little plot pivot our new overlord. Yeah, I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say boss seems kind I feel like she might be like,

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Speaker 1: are all controlling? Uh master? At some point it's not

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Speaker 1: a world I want to be a part of. Championship weekend.

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Speaker 1: Oh I have right here, not a shameless plug at all,

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Speaker 1: Number one through four in the power rankings as we

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Speaker 1: enter Super Bowl, well, championship weekends. To get to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, we had to say goodbye the lines. Justin

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Speaker 1: I have in my hands the power rankings on her.

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Speaker 1: Number one, I have the Cincinnati Engles, number two, the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles interesting number three, the San Francisco forty Niners,

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Speaker 1: number four, the Kansas City Chiefs. And am I bringing

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Speaker 1: that up because I want to direct you to NFL

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Speaker 1: dot com slash power Rankings. Sure, I'll do that, But

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Speaker 1: also I want to point out you could put those

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Speaker 1: four in any order and you're just as right even

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Speaker 1: to you could say, well, Kansas City with my homes injury,

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Speaker 1: Pat's practicing in full right now. On top of it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be great. This combination of teams, like it seems like,

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Speaker 1: oh wow, this seems like a good four pack of teams.

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Speaker 1: There's historically never been like, uh foursome of teams who

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Speaker 1: are this good and on this much of a winning

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Speaker 1: streak between the Chiefs have won seven straight. The Bengals

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Speaker 1: have one ten straight and have won twelve straight. Like,

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Speaker 1: if you combine the four teams record over the last

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Speaker 1: three months, it's better than any final four. It's also

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Speaker 1: the first conference championship with spreads under three in both

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Speaker 1: games in since the seventies seventies, so like, it just

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Speaker 1: doesn't there hasn't even been one. It is surprising, except

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Speaker 1: like we got no upsets, which maybe made last week

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Speaker 1: less dramatic on some level. But we've got the four

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Speaker 1: best teams and this is the first occurrence forty eagles

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Speaker 1: of a top trank offense and defense is clashing each

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Speaker 1: other since top five since the Vikings and Cowboys in ninety.

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Speaker 1: So it has it is an aberration what's happening right

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Speaker 1: now in a great one. And there was this idea

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Speaker 1: of like there's no you know, at some point in

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Speaker 1: the season people will be like that there's there's no

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Speaker 1: great teams. It's like this seems like a year actually

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Speaker 1: of flatsam and jetsam around the same uh, wanting to

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Speaker 1: be one of these teams. And the Bills would say

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Speaker 1: we were one of those teams. Will you not anymore? Sorry, Bills? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: there's no you know right now dynasty in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But um, I feel like it's not unusual by the

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Speaker 1: time you get to the final four, all the teams

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Speaker 1: do feel like superpower. The last four from last year

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Speaker 1: or four years. The Chiefs get their year after years,

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Speaker 1: so that they're not dynasty is in the same way

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Speaker 1: that we think of like the old nineties Cowboys and

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Speaker 1: eighties Parcels Giants. But I had a couple of Super

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Speaker 1: Bowls and you're there, I'm you forgot Yeah, the best dynasty. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I said, I don't think that anyone's

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Speaker 1: we're just living in the past. It is crazy to

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Speaker 1: the changing of the guard. Yes, and um, you know,

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Speaker 1: has the one title? I think Homes, go get over

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Speaker 1: the hump again, get back to the game, win another one.

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Speaker 1: If if if, Because Greg, you've been on record on

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Speaker 1: the show, I think you've said that is he the

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Speaker 1: best ever? I think he's the best player I've ever seen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even I'm just saying time to start stacking some of

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Speaker 1: these Lombardies well because the team is there, right. You

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Speaker 1: don't like it's suppressing to watch the quarterback do it

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Speaker 1: early in the career and then not do it again.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers esk, get a second. It's a team sport, Dan.

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Speaker 1: I mean when when Tom Brady played his absolute best

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Speaker 1: Tye showing the greatest offenses of the last twenty years.

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Speaker 1: I forget what the context was maybe the Chiefs were

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Speaker 1: And I'm just saying it didn't make me feel any

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Speaker 1: different about my homes. If they lose this game. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: to point out it's an incredible achievement to get to

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Speaker 1: this state of the season five years in a row,

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Speaker 1: the final four. The odds are really with you at

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Speaker 1: five times in a row. Wouldn't change the way you

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Speaker 1: tough to really compare. Um. How last season ended still

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Speaker 1: for Patrick mahomes Um. I think he is. I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: what have they learned since that game a year ago?

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Speaker 1: Can Mahomes be patient enough on offense? Can they create

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Speaker 1: But Andy Reid also said Andy Reid said, like, we've

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Speaker 1: And I think they're built in a way with guys

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Speaker 1: Like Mahomes said, every single time these last three matchups

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Speaker 1: This is all on some level, could be games and

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Speaker 1: then play their best football at the end of the season.

429
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: And the numbers, I'll say that's happened again this season

430
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 1: that they were pretty bad for a while, and in

431
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 1: the last month and a half they've been like a

432
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: top tennis you know, good and off defense. Clark and

433
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 1: karl Offtis and Dunlap, their ed rushers, I think you're

434
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 1: right to point them out are huge in this game.

435
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 1: They did not do anything last week that was a

436
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: little concerning. I would say they were a little bit

437
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 1: of a weakness against Jacksonville. Chris Jones did his normal thing.

438
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: You mentioned how they didn't do anything the last time

439
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: they played the Bengals, So I think they have to

440
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: show up because pressure, just like sacks, is a quarterback

441
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: stats pressure kid be too. I think Joe Burrow was

442
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: good getting rid of the ball quickly and moving in

443
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: the pocket too to avoid pressure. All right, let's pick

444
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: this game. I don't know, Mark, I'm going Bengals. I'm

445
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: going Bengals. I feel like I always do this, But

446
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: I think this game is an overtime thriller that comes

447
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 1: down to a field goal. I'm gonna says are overtime predictions.

448
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: That's why I tagged it with that. But but Bengals

449
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: Chiefs feels like it's just heading in that direction. I'd

450
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: be really surprised that this was anything more than like

451
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 1: three or four point difference between the teams. It's really crazy, Gore.

452
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: I had thirty to twenty seven and overtime, which means

453
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: the Bengals kicked the field over time. It was the

454
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs started this game or this line as the favorite.

455
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 1: Can I just one more correction to mark um, the

456
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: Chiefs could have won the overtime coin toss, kicked the

457
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: field goal, then the Bengals get the ball back and

458
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: score touchdown. You're right, but not in my in my

459
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 1: reality the narrative I've created, it's a it's a field

460
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: goal that you're right, So mathematically that has that ever

461
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: happened by that way? It doesn't feel like I want

462
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: that to happen. Different you know, patterns the world. So

463
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs started as a favorite. Everyone kind of jumped

464
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: on the Bengals because of the ankle thing, and the

465
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: Bengals have been great, and the Bengals became the favorite.

466
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: And now late in the week with this like positive

467
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: Mahomes news, enough people have jumped back where the Chiefs are. Now.

468
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't group thing something well or the desert has

469
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: more power than people realize. You know, just money's flying

470
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: around around this a lot of well what do you

471
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: what does that even I don't know, just some of

472
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: the you know, the way things are reported, the way

473
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: things are amplified, the people, they're very powerful to these

474
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: people in the desert. Oh yeah, you're right. Ultimately, like

475
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: if the if theolved, if the number is under three,

476
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of just like you're picking the winner. Essentially,

477
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: it would be pretty weird to to get underneath the number.

478
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: You're picking the winner. And now as the week goes on,

479
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: I I'm like affected by that scene mahomes out there

480
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: and just like seeing him run around, You're like, okay,

481
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: put that to the side. But this Bengals team, We've

482
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: been on a journey with them throughout last postseason. Week

483
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: after week, Mark and I picking the Bengals, Dan pushing

484
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: back against us. Well not exactly, I mean pretty much

485
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: even in the super Bowl. Yeah, that was to win

486
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: a lock title, which but you didn't even make the choice.

487
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: You like, Mark make his choice. You you absconded. I

488
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: that wow, what a move by me? That was? That

489
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: is that's a showman. Why are we down this in

490
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 1: this cornering himself and something like us with everything on

491
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: the line. I said, I'm standing out of the way

492
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: Mark pick because you had been the other one's unbelievable showmanship. Yeah,

493
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: but you were getting you were You have one of

494
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: the biggest fades down the stretch of all time. You

495
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: were hesitant, were hesitant to magnifico without even making a choice.

496
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: Unbelievable in your world. Let it be that this unbelievable.

497
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: This uh, this Bengals team though, with with the Wesleyan

498
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: brothers rooting them on, with a guy who just doesn't

499
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: seem to know how to lose or play poorly in

500
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: the biggest moments in Joe Burrow, and yes, with a

501
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: better coaching staff, because I think lou in a Rumo

502
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: Captain lew is the difference here. And uh, I am

503
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: taking the Bengals to win this game. Score is he

504
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: gonna oh, It's like he's like, oh, it's like a

505
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: better change my polo. Well, I don't know what score

506
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: I put online. I try to keep it consistent. Thirty seven.

507
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: I believe was I think it will be plenty of points,

508
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: plenty of entertainment. It's the late game, it's not over

509
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: time And uh, and I picked the Bengals locking up

510
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: the Bengals because I just want to watch this game.

511
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: I know this is like a silly way to choose

512
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: between the two, but I don't want the stress of it.

513
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: I just want to watch, like, I mean, a great game.

514
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals a win, but I don't feel

515
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: confident about this is one of the reasons I jumped

516
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: out of the Giants lock last week, because I wanted

517
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: Greg to really sweat it out one more week. You

518
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: might take it home. Yeah, I'm on now. I'm very

519
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: much in a defensive posture in terms of the lock

520
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: battle once again. Yeah, you could. You could show some

521
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: hutzpa though and what and lock up the Bengals here

522
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,239
Speaker 1: he's I think he's gonna lock all that. I had

523
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: to play it the right way, Greg, Well, you could

524
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: just have integrity and pick the team that you what

525
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: just doing here. Come down, because you were telling me

526
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: earlier in the week you have the Bengals first, empowering

527
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: because they just chiefs for the Bengals are my pick

528
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: in this game. Okay, absolutely, I don't think the Bengals

529
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: lose again this season. I think Joe Burrow loses until

530
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: like next September or October. So I will pick them

531
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: to win this game. You thought they'd lose last week.

532
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: Not really, I just I said thirty one thirty Yes,

533
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: I do. I guess like a little dog like biting

534
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: at your team to just do you shut up? Um,

535
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: Cincinnati not only gonna win this game, I think they'll

536
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: win it resoundingly, like going away almost sounds like it

537
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 1: would be lockworthy it ever stopped talking, so you you

538
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: just view the chief says, uh, like the bill is

539
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: a little bit they can't match up and they've come

540
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: just to the end of their journey and it's gonna

541
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: be was hoping. I was, really, yeah, I was, I was.

542
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: I love this. So I think that if you lock Bengals,

543
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: because I want to play it the way that's the

544
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: most direct way to play the game. Um, but we'll

545
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: lock the other game and I'll take the Niners probably,

546
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: and that'll be what's up, somebody's locking this game? I wait,

547
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: who is even talking right now? Hello, heroes. If I

548
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: look a little somber right now because we were officially

549
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: eliminated last week, it's okay. We conducted ourselves with honor

550
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: and integrity throughout we took tough games throughout, unlike the

551
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: guy who's in the lead. It takes a six and

552
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: a half point favorite every week, or we get in

553
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs and he takes the ten point favorite every week.

554
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: Oh Greggy, that's okay. That he created I can look

555
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: in the mirror or this video right now and say, hey,

556
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm proud of what we did. I'm wondering if that

557
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: guy can do the same. Oof onward and upward. It's

558
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: not going to be any secret who we take this week.

559
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: I said the Bengals were gonna ride Joe Burrow's arm

560
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: all the way to the super Bowl, and they're gonna

561
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: do it again. All the talks about my home's ankle,

562
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: it's not gonna matter healthy, you're not. The Bengals take

563
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: care of business. Joe Burrow puts up some good numbers.

564
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: They win this game relatively easily. I say, ten points.

565
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: Lock that up? Yeah nice, Yeah, well done. Yeah. It

566
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: was why I was tempted to lock up the Bengals,

567
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: just stuff for the look in the mirror factor that

568
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: I knew Dan dude when it didn't believe in it,

569
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: and I would just force him into a terrible situation

570
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: where you're you're showing who you are. But that seems

571
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: like a silly way to play this game, to make

572
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: you feel like, I feel like you're a little bit

573
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: un tilt with the locks right now. You're just all

574
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: over the place on things. You came out of that

575
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: with like a two minute long self commentary, what about

576
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: what Nick did? Look? Well, next thing is ridiculous And

577
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: I love I love Nick you to be honest, because

578
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: it reminds me so much of Chris Wesley and West.

579
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: Because the first time I ever met Nick and the brothers,

580
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: they were like, just get just go, get Chris and

581
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: Nick to debate like Lebron James first, Michael Jordan's and

582
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: like an hour later they were shouting at each other

583
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: like with bears in their hands. Was like, Nick's the

584
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: same way. UM's not letting you get away with it. Greg,

585
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: there you go, So yes, I'm with I'm with you

586
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: on that. Nick. Let's go Bengals to the super Bowl.

587
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and we'll hit the other side

588
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: welcome back. Before we get to the NFC title game,

589
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: Tilt little halftime, Let's get caught up on the news

590
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: around the league. Let's start with oh higher higher involving

591
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: a team. I know, the New York Jets and their

592
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: two weeks search for an offensive coordinator hiring former Denver

593
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: Broncos coach. How did that go? Nathaniel Hackett on Thursday. Hackett,

594
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: obviously before the Broncos inferno, was with Green Bay and

595
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: had a good relationship with Aaron Rodgers. So this only

596
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: now fuels the growing like kind of fire around Aaron

597
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: Rodgers and the Jets. Interesting Hackett mark replaces Michael Fleur,

598
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: who got canned after the Jets went in the tank

599
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: um at the end of the season, and now Hackett

600
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: has a chance to kind of quickly build his career

601
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: back up or you know, he's in a pretty vulnerable

602
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: position here too, because the Jets coaching staff is in

603
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: a very vulnerable place. Now enter two. I really like

604
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: to hire and like this, this is the kind of

605
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: thing that I just I'm gonna log off of Twitter

606
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: because there's so many, uh lines, lines of humor around

607
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett at this point. Now imagine my Twitter mentions

608
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: right now. I know, I know I'm not I'm not

609
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: going through the same you know issues that you are, Dan,

610
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I'm trying to tell you, I

611
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: think it's a good hire for the Jets, And like,

612
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: I think of what Nathaniel Hackett did with that Surgeon

613
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: and Jaguars team that deep into the playoffs half a

614
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: decade ago, and the work he did in Green Bay,

615
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: and the fact that, like when you go back to

616
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: like the earlier roots of him being recruited by Denver,

617
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: there was a lot of racket and noise around maybe

618
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers going there. And I think that Aaron Rodgers

619
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: is very pro Nathaniel Hackett and the Jets. Basically Solace

620
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: said today we are getting a veteran quarterback. Nope, fine,

621
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: maybe how that interesting quote, I guess, but you won't

622
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: be going for Russell Wilson. But I mean it connects

623
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: the dots maybe, And it's a selling point for Aaron

624
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: Rodgers at least because it would be a familiar offense

625
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: for him, It would be a familiar everything, and so

626
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: I kind of think that has to be a little

627
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: part of the swing for the fences aspect of this.

628
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: But beyond that, I think it's a good play caller.

629
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: It just was over hired. Peter Princess. He though like

630
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: the concern I would have as these from the same

631
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: offensive tree as Matt Lafleur and like doesn't have a

632
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: better track record necessarily didn't call plays in Green Bay,

633
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: called it in Buffalo and Jacksonville. I would say those

634
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: offenses were mediocre on average. He maximized that Jacksonville absolutely

635
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: really creative what he he was there three years they

636
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: had a great year running the ball when they made it,

637
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: and they were terrible the other two years like not

638
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: not just like average, terrible and they were okay. In

639
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo they were like okay, they were in the middle

640
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: of the pack. So he doesn't like bring you an

641
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: immediate idea that he has a schematic advantage. I think

642
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: what he brings you is like everyone who's ever worked

643
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: with Nathaniel Hackett loves the dude, says he's like great

644
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: at leading guys and building like the relationships and all that.

645
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: But there's no reason to think that he's gonna be

646
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: like better than Matt. Hopefully he's just the same. He's

647
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: a better quarterback luck to start with, to be better

648
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: than anyone, right, I think, like what you've said in

649
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: the past, Greg about head coaches, and there's you know,

650
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: five or six really good ones and then five or

651
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: six really terrible ones, and then there's a middle. I

652
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: think you could say probably the same thing about play callers,

653
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: and that's where I come down on this higher Now

654
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: what Mark was alluding to immediately there's this urge could

655
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: and I don't even get mad at it, because I

656
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: understand if I wasn't a jetsman, they're a fun team

657
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: to dunk on, just because they're kind of a comedy

658
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: of errors in a folly squad for fifty years or whatever.

659
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: So it's like this guy that got fired by the

660
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: Broncos and was completely incompetent. Now they hire him too

661
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: in a desperate attempt to get Aaron Rodgers, like I

662
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: get it, have fun with it, go run off and

663
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: play um my feeling on it is like Hackett is

664
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: in that big grouping of o C is that he

665
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: will look as good as the quarterback is at the

666
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: end of the day, and if the Jets do not

667
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: bring in a competent quarterback, he will look bad and

668
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: probably will get fired with everyone else. At the end

669
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Speaker 1: of the year. And the Jets bring in a good

670
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: quarterback or even a Hall of Fame level quarterback, he

671
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: will probably look really good. And it will be seeing

672
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: it will seem like a good higher and the Jets

673
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: will be in the playoffs next year. So this isn't

674
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: This story is not finished for me. I need to

675
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: see who the QB is. Do. I think we're getting

676
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: more and more smoke around this Aaron Rodgers thing. Yeah,

677
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: I I really think this is a real possibility. I

678
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: talked about it a little bit in the last show

679
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: that this felt like something what he Johnson would do.

680
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: He did something exactly like this fifteen years ago Brett Farve,

681
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: which by the way, went better than a lot of people.

682
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: Remember well injured, he was eight and three. They were

683
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: really in good position in the a f C. And

684
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: then he got hurt and tried to play through it

685
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: to keep his consecutive game streak going. And then the

686
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: team uh tanked and then he went to Minnesota and

687
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: he was an m VP level guy again. I think

688
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: this is a no doubter of a move that Jets

689
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: should make at this point. Is long as long as

690
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: they don't mortgage their future for Aaron Rodgers, it's a

691
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: tricky balance, but I do like the idea of Rogers

692
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: and Hackett together with the rest of this week By

693
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Speaker 1: the way that is big news out of New York.

694
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: We have bigger news, no breaking news. Let's hear it

695
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: out of Carolina where the Panthers are hiring former Cults

696
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: coach Frank Reich is their new head coach. Yeah, I

697
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: like it. I liked Frank Reich of all the coaches

698
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: who just lost their job and this real breaking news

699
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 1: on the show. Do you know what happens? So sometimes

700
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: we log off, We're like eight minutes in a driving

701
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: home and then bang this happens, and it's like, what

702
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: do we do? Then? I think he's one of those

703
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: coaches as a play caller who makes a difference. I

704
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 1: don't know if he's changing the world as a head coach.

705
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: He's not going to just make the magical. But I

706
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: believe he is an excellent play caller. With the right

707
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: pieces around him, you can have a top ten offense

708
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: with Frank Reich kind of guy when they because the

709
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: jet search was endless and Frank Reich was somebody like

710
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: I would love if they got Frank Reich. But Frank

711
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: Reich deserved another head coach job, and he gets one

712
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: with Carolina, you know, Teugh. Luck for Steve Wilkeson did

713
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: a nice job there. He'll catch on somewhere, maybe not

714
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: as a head coach at first, but um, that's a

715
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: big step for the Panthers, who have had major issues

716
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: getting their offense back online ever since Cam Newton's shoulder went. Um.

717
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do with QB. I

718
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: assume they're going to go through the draft, have a

719
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: high draft pick. Maybe they will going down the road

720
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: of trying to bring in veteran Sam Donold's a free agent.

721
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: They need to get someone they need to make and

722
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: we know they have a pretty good defense too, So

723
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: it's just like, what is the path that they take

724
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Speaker 1: with Reich. Might be a good move to take a

725
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: quarterback high. Maybe they target a car Garoppolo type and

726
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: they could improve a lot in a division. That's obviously

727
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: why I mean, Reik reminds me of Hack in the

728
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: sense that like he sunk out of there because he

729
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: didn't have a quarterback either, and you've got to find

730
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: one in Caroline, And they went after Matthew Stafford didn't happen.

731
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: They investigated the idea of getting to Shaun Watson, didn't happen. Tepper,

732
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: the owner absolutely as he could seeking someone. I don't

733
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: know if you want it, I don't know where you're gonna.

734
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna be with the rookie class by the time

735
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Speaker 1: they pick, but they have leverage on that front. And

736
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: I just don't love the veteran class outside Aaron Rodgerson.

737
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: I just I don't I don't know if you signed.

738
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Speaker 1: I'm I know him lower on Derek Carr than other people,

739
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: but like Frank Reich needs someone that can take a

740
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: little of the heat off. And because there's not gonna

741
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: be like a magical name that pops up there, he's

742
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: just like, that's it. That's the great guy. You know,

743
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a Jimmy g or a Derek Carr

744
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: or a Gino if he ever left, or someone in

745
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: the draft. But they chose to pass on Justin Fields

746
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: and Mac Jones a couple of years ago. And they're

747
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: not as high obviously anymore. Right, what what are they

748
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: drafting like they would be in the mix for like

749
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: the third quarterback drafted potentially, but to get him there

750
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: at nine and maybe what they maybe they'll end up

751
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: doing what the Jets probably should have done a couple

752
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: of years ago, and kept Sam Donald and then just

753
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: draft a guy high and then put the rookie in

754
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: after a few weeks or half a season or a year.

755
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: That's another way they could play it. As long as

756
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: you give Reich the rope to build the program here, um,

757
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: I think they'll be in good hands. I'd love to

758
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 1: see them keep Wilkes defensive cording or if he doesn't

759
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: get a head coaching jump. I know you always come in,

760
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: I know, but you just cleaned the whole staff out.

761
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: But it's like, my guess is just he really felt

762
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: like he wanted that job. I think he'll want to

763
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: fresh start with over someone that he didn't pick him

764
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: basically exactly. The Jets, by the way, have the same

765
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: record as Carolina. There was six teams at seven and ten,

766
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Speaker 1: and the Jets pick last out of them because they

767
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: had the hardest schedule. It's one of the smallest points

768
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: that bothers me the most. I think it should be flipped.

769
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: If you should hardly stick to schedule, the Jets should

770
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: be the team picking eight. That's a big difference. Is

771
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: even the argument for doing it that way that if

772
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: you're better had the yeah that they're the Jets are

773
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: better than the Falcons because they played the hard. That's

774
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't something. I don't like stuff like some sports

775
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: where like it catches all of us mentally, we're like, wait,

776
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense, but it's still rages on. I mean,

777
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: I'm a Jets fan, and it does kind of make sense.

778
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: The idea of the draft is to help replenish the

779
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: worst teams and get them back on their feet. I

780
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: know you guys are bigger Falcons fans than me, but

781
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: the Falcons kind of stink, Whereas the Jets everyone's talking

782
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: about the same thing. They're a quarterback and a couple

783
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: of things away from being a contender. I get it.

784
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: I just wish it was the other way around in

785
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: this case. Specifically, I'd go I'd go like ping pong

786
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: ball lottery in that movie. Yeah, I like some turn

787
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: it into like a twelve event. Let's do ping pong balls. Uh.

788
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Speaker 1: In other news, let's quickly hit this before we get

789
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Speaker 1: to the n SC title game. The award finalists have

790
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: been announced for the all those AP awards. UM. I

791
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: always found that kind of strange. It's like the Associated

792
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: Press's end of season awards as opposed to just a

793
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: standalone NFL event, but it's essentially a partnership and it's

794
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: recognized by the league as the Awards. So we'll start

795
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Speaker 1: with the most Valuable Player. Here are the finalists for

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Speaker 1: Most Valuable Player, and Greggy will tell you all about

797
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: it because he is super plugged in on this type

798
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Speaker 1: of highly esoteric football. We spend a whole off season

799
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Speaker 1: episode toxic v What how did they change the voting?

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Speaker 1: There are five finalists, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts,

801
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, got a lot of You got a lot

802
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Speaker 1: of vinegar, p and vinegar in you today, Greggy, I

803
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: like it. Maybe I don't know why. I don't know why.

804
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: Maybe it was the call we I got right before,

805
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: right before we started taping that. The day after, Walker,

806
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: my son gleefully told me that his friend had faked

807
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: being sick. That suddenly he wakes up with a cough

808
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: today and then leave school in the middle of school.

809
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: I think he's learning from his friend. I don't like it.

810
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: I hate when he or he's actually ill and then

811
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: he's gotten you ill, and now you're sitting two ft

812
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: a space between us and you. He's probably faking it.

813
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: I think he's faking. Well, that's a good I think

814
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: that's as a kid, I guess it's better than him

815
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: being sick. But it's a good skill to learn. It's

816
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: a good thing to learn. It's a good thing to

817
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: learn that. This year, finally they're ranking top five MVP candidates,

818
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: which I think is cool. So if you have a vote,

819
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: you rank one through five writers. It's a wide swath

820
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: of different writers from different companies. Some a lot of

821
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: local writers, but also national writers. I know. Uh, then,

822
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: well they organized that they send it out, feel like

823
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: something we need to clean it. Just feel like it

824
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: probably won't be the case five years. Streamline this a

825
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: little bit. Our friend Mina Kimes, who was on this

826
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Speaker 1: show before the season, she has a vote now, which

827
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: is so cool. She so she ranks the top five

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Speaker 1: and then yeah, it turned into did you say the names?

829
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Speaker 1: I did? Alan Borrow, Hurts, Jefferson, Mahomes. It's exactly who

830
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: you would expect other Jefferson being fifth, I feel like

831
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: is is nice. That's why I like the ranked voting.

832
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: That Jefferson even gets on this list should I think

833
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: if I would have had him third, I would say

834
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: the you know who really likes. This ultimately is the

835
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: union and it's good for contract negotiations for Justin Jefferson

836
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: to go to the Vikes like, oh, he was an

837
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: m VP finalist. Yeah. The problem is we know who

838
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: won the award because they already released the AP all proteins.

839
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: It's the exact same people voting for the award, and

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00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes got forty nine out of fifty votes at quarterback.

841
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 1: It's very safe to say he is the two thousand through.

842
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: Some of these other ones are a little Yeah, you're right,

843
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, it should be. Uh. Both

844
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: are thrilled Greg that you just basically pulled the entire up,

845
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean the informations. I'll have their public I'm disconnected

846
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: that I said Greg would have this esoteric knowledge and

847
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: he's decoding the whole thing for us. I like it.

848
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: It gives us a little step on the competition. Although yes,

849
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: NFL Honors, which will be Thursday, February nine, UM in

850
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: the super Bowl city of Glendale or the Phoenix area. UM,

851
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: really only one award we know for sure, not happy

852
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: the rest of them. You can't really figure, let's just

853
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: keep spoiling the AP Defensive Player of the Year is

854
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, Chris Jones, Michael Parsons. We know it won't

855
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: be Parsons because Bosa was second to Parsons h and

856
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: All Pro, but Chris Jones, you never know. But also

857
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: going to do they vote like the same week as

858
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: they vote, it's the exact same ballot. You just send

859
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: it all in together. This is that is Nick Bosa

860
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: or I'm totally stuck Parsons. I think we'll get actually

861
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: a decent amount of vote, but he's not because he

862
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: did it in the All Pro two. But he won't

863
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: get the ap Offensive Player of the Year Tyreek Hill,

864
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: Dolphin's wide receiver Jalen Hurts, Justin Jefferson, Patrick Mahomes, and

865
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: if Patrick Mahomes was the nine fifty bouts the first

866
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: team All Pro quarterback, obviously he'll win this two right. Well,

867
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: this is why I hate this award, no, because a

868
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: lot of people split it and try to give something

869
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: to someone else. But it's I kind of think it's

870
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: gonna be Jefferson. It's Director of the Year in film

871
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: in the year they find a way to give everyone

872
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's like we gave him My Homes

873
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: m v P let's get I feel like we've had

874
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: this conversation, just called the non quarterback offensive. These quarterbacks

875
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: out of here. And then if that's the case, it's

876
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: Jefferson or Hill, and I'll go Jefferson could even be Hurts.

877
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: They might who knows. Who knows? Ap offensive Rookie of

878
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: the Year brock Purty. Interesting brock Purty, he only started

879
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: six games. You know what, I think the most absurd

880
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: thing out there right now is people saying that he shouldn't.

881
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: He is my rookie of the Year without any question.

882
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: He's playing the toughest position in all of sports. He's

883
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: under feed and he's totally thrived. The playoffs count. They

884
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: voted before. I don't care. It's the playoffs for not

885
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: but I don't because he didn't play as many games

886
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: as like Kenneth Walker. I just don't care. Rock Purty,

887
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker, Garrett Wilson. I care, and I think and

888
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: hope it will be Wilson. I would have gone Wilson

889
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: or a Lave. I mean to me, they were better

890
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: at their position even too then Party and they played

891
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: the whole season. So strongly disagree, but I get where

892
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: people coming from them, like what of the season? Right,

893
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 1: that's not enough for me. I'm with you. That seems

894
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: a problem. That's all just to guess what, I don't

895
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: have to I don't have a vote, so it doesn't

896
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: have to a significant amount of voters for him to

897
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: be one of the three finalists. We know essentially he

898
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: got votes, so he's that It is like the best

899
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: story happening, Like Garrett Wilson is fantastic, but there is

900
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: no Garrett Wilson's story to the season. At the other awards,

901
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: you can top three AP Defensive Rookie of the Year Sauce,

902
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson, Terrek Woolen. If Sauce is the first team

903
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: All Pro wentner back, I'll be very annoyed if Hutchinson

904
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: wins this, which I feel like there's a bigger chance

905
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: in people because he had three interceptions, because like he's

906
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: a bigger profile. But I think Sauce will probably do

907
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: it better when that um was hutcha All Pro. No, yeah,

908
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: that if Sauce was the first team All Pro, well,

909
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: I get it, but they're not like competing against you.

910
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I hope and I think that he

911
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: will ap comeback player. They or another good competition this

912
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: year he got say quads who, by the way, say quads? Um.

913
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: We got together with Lakisha last Thursday and she shared that, Oh,

914
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: our old friend Austin Knoblock. Remember we saw love Nobby

915
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: now with the l a Times killing it over there

916
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: used to be work on the desk running the show

917
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: uh for NFL Digital on the dot com side. I

918
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: learned um that it was Austin Knoblock that coined say quad.

919
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: He created the nicknames say quads. Wow, he's an influential

920
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: man or is it say quad? I mean, I think

921
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's the first thing he'll be known for,

922
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: um for the rest of his life, but it should be.

923
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: It's in the mix. Put that on in Twitter. His

924
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: wife would bake incredible big goods and he'd bring them in,

925
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: distribute the big goods around the office. Unbelievable, unbelievable. He

926
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: brought something in last week. All right McCaffrey, Christian McCaffrey,

927
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: Niners running back and Gino Smith. Give me a break.

928
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: If it's not Gino, what are we doing? Comeback Player

929
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: of the Year. I think se Kwon ripping up his knees.

930
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: He belongs in this category of the years. I think

931
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: it's something different obviously every year. Blah, yeah, we get

932
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: it with you know, Philip Rivers. But Gino Smith is

933
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: something that's that's not happened in the entire time we've

934
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: done this podcast. A player that literally was his career

935
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: was was a laughing stock, uh content for everyone, and

936
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: then he turns around and like blows everyone's metrics up

937
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: and becomes one of the most valuable players in the

938
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 1: entire league. And they were laughing at the whole story.

939
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: I think the whole thing. Yeah, I think part of

940
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: its story is compelling, compelling, Mark, but I believe it

941
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: is se Kuan Barkley. Oh, he's still pretty similar to

942
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised that you that you if you

943
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: actually think that that that's how this whether you think

944
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: he's even the all right, it's gonna say, because this

945
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: is story, a lot of these awards to me feel

946
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: completely more than deserving of it. Yes, pretty similar to Tannehill,

947
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: but Geno Smith's career was even more dead and gone,

948
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: I think, I mean Gino, but Tannehill continued to be

949
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: a starter and flounder was a joke, right, I mean, yeah,

950
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: just the sense that like he got benched in Miami,

951
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: didn't want him and everyone thought like he's going to

952
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: go be a career back. And did Tannehill win the award?

953
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: Did when he didn't? Gino not only was that still

954
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: got punched, he did MKA MKAM Paulo and he's back finally.

955
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year. Brian Dable, Sean McDermott, Doug Peterson,

956
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, Nick Sirie, Annie, my vote is for Mr Dable.

957
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: How about you guys, good one though, good category. I

958
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: think that's who will get it. I think that's a

959
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: very story driven to um. He totally fits. I think

960
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: he completely changed the giants, all right, take the story

961
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: whatever that means, because you know what, because for me,

962
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: I think this is a kind of thing where like

963
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 1: in the years of old, like why wasn't Bill Belichick

964
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: just winning in every year? Kyle Shanahan because he's he

965
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: find another guy on this list who would be on

966
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: this list as much as roster I can't with a

967
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: second quarterback goes down, first quarterback goes down, your second

968
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: quarterback goes down, and then your Rookie of the Year

969
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: and my book Rock Party comes in and he's Rookie

970
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: of the Year because of Kyle Shanahan, because you're picking

971
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: an NFC title game bust. But I think Kyle Shanahan

972
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: is has gone through as much adverse important but dable.

973
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: The Giants could have easily been a four and thirteen

974
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: team under different leadership. Yeah, I think I think they

975
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: were last year under Joe john I'm with you, though, Mark,

976
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: And if I was like ranking them, I might have

977
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: Sirianni second. Uh. And I think he hasn't gotten a

978
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: lot of Campbell. Yeah, yeah, he got. I mean, where's

979
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll? Are You're right? I would I would put

980
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: those guys over Syrianni and Shanahan or well, what about

981
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,479
Speaker 1: like yeah, Sean McDermott just like sort of just doing

982
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: what we thought he'd do. But then again that if

983
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: you have a great loaded roster, i'd ding you in

984
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: this category. Give me the guys that make the most

985
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: of a team people didn't really see as Peterson is

986
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: a perfect fit for for category. I would be totally

987
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: fine with that as well. All right, oh, Mark, this

988
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 1: one's for you. Last one Assistant Coach of the Year

989
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. So it's just like, I mean, you don't

990
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: give Dan Hamil a nomination, but to give his oc

991
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: one who's deserving. Ben did a great job over there. Uh,

992
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: Damiko Ryan's who absolutely feels like he's gonna win. This

993
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: feels like it's Demiko Ryan's season and Shane Stiken Eagles,

994
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: this is Demko's award. Yeah, I think Demiko will win.

995
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: I think I have no problem with that at all.

996
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, Uh, I kind of like when you you're

997
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: a guy that no one knew who you were a

998
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: year ago and then you changed, You completely changed the

999
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: ark of your career because of what you accomplished, and

1000
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: the Lions have been unwatchable and anyone that made the

1001
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: Lion's watchable Dan Campbell included, needs to be on list

1002
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: like this. Um. You know, it's kind of funny about

1003
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. When Colleen and I did the Hard Knocks podcast,

1004
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: it was a running joke in the last three or

1005
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: four episodes that they only talked about Deuce Staley, who

1006
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: is the assistant coach and I think running backs coached.

1007
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: We never even saw the who is the offense coordinator?

1008
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: We were looking it up and they were like, we

1009
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: need Ben Johnson to be on the radar for this show.

1010
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: Eventually did show up here and there, but then became

1011
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: the like guy that is getting a ton of love

1012
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: and pop. Has you been getting interviews? Yes, he got

1013
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: one chairing with Carolina and he then withdrew his name,

1014
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: I believe, almost immediately before they even went through the

1015
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: process and said he wanted to stay in Detroit. But

1016
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: he did talk to a couple of teams. I think

1017
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: on zoom, I think that's so well. Two things can happen.

1018
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: One the Lions can go in the tank. Can suddenly

1019
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: no one's interviewing Ben Johnson again. But if you kind

1020
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: of view that you aren't ready yet to be a

1021
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: head coach, I think that takes some self control, self awareness.

1022
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: If the teams that are even expressing interest in you,

1023
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: if you're not really into the spots, I get that.

1024
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: You can look at it all right, let's was that? Oh?

1025
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: That who was it was that got Brown talking about Ben? Yeah,

1026
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: we were super plugged on Ben Johnson getting more pop

1027
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 1: on that show and now he is getting pop. Congrats

1028
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: to all the nominees and yes, check out NFL Honors

1029
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: the Thursday before the Super Bowl for blah blah blah blah.

1030
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break and we'll hit the

1031
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: NFC Title game. All right, welcome back, and it's time

1032
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 1: now for the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. Let's do it.

1033
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game the forty Niners. When is the last?

1034
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: Let's Greg's just down on the table like a cave man.

1035
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: I like it. The San Francisco forty Niners have not

1036
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: lost since let's see, Oh my god, October two thousand

1037
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: twenty two, and yet they are the underdog when they

1038
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: step on the field at the link to face the Eagles. Who, uh, greggy,

1039
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: we're looking mighty against the Giants. Is there chance in

1040
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: your mind? Oh? Get into it this way that as

1041
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: dominant as the Eagles looked, there was a tiny bit

1042
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: of fools gold because of the Giants being an overmatched

1043
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: folk and tender at that stage of the playoffs. And

1044
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: it will never be that easy again. Or are the

1045
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 1: Eagles so good they are gonna steam roll their next

1046
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: opponent as well? No, I don't think they're gonna steam

1047
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: roll anyone. I think it was fool's gold. I don't

1048
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be overconfident because of it. Can I

1049
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: just say one thing? I don't mean fools gold is

1050
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: in the Eagle. I don't think the Eagles are actually good.

1051
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: I just mean the fact that they looked like they

1052
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: were playing a Pop Warner performance. They you know, not

1053
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: at that right. I like, look at them and they

1054
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: look They had that same score against the Vikings in

1055
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship on their way to a Super Bowl.

1056
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: But to me, this will be much more like that

1057
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: Falcons game where they had to scratch and claw and

1058
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: barely win at the end. If they can win, I

1059
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: don't know how anyone and and you and Nick might

1060
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: be right. Maybe the Bengals win going away. You guys

1061
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: seem very confident that I. I have a hard time

1062
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: being confident in any result this weekend because I just

1063
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: think these both these teams are awesome. Picking against a

1064
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: team as talented as San Francisco is tough, that hasn't

1065
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: lost in that long is tough. So I when it's

1066
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: such a close matchup, I do think about the small

1067
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: margins and I do think that's where Philadelphia can win

1068
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: this game. Four things, very quick aggressiveness, like going forward

1069
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: on fourth down and getting it. I think the Eagles

1070
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: are the more likely team to do that. Short yardage

1071
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: situation which you're in in fourth down. Eagle is one

1072
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: of the best teams practically ever in that situation. Forty

1073
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: nine is actually not that great in short yardage on

1074
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: either side of the ball this season, wasting time outs

1075
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: and like handing the clock management situation. I think Philadelphia

1076
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: is a little tighter in that. Forty really waste a

1077
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: lot of time outs and then red zone. You look

1078
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: at the Eagles, They've been a great red zone team

1079
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: this year. Uh, the forty nine is not quite as

1080
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: much on either side of the ball. So just like

1081
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: the little game management, aggressiveness coaching staff within the game

1082
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: might be the difference in a really tight game. But

1083
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: that's why I'm taking the Eagles. I took them to

1084
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl before the season. They've been my team.

1085
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm giving up on them now locking up he has

1086
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: I love. I love the Eagles UM this week as well,

1087
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: and that's why with the lock competition now I'm boxed

1088
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: in the corner a little bit. UM. They do make

1089
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: sense to me as a team UM that will keep

1090
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: winning based on what we saw. How does it go

1091
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: sideways for the Eagle? How do the Niners find a

1092
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: way Uh, to beat this team that is so dominant

1093
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: in the trenches. It's a big test for your guy, Purdy, Mark,

1094
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 1: because I think the one thing that I took out

1095
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: of the win over the Cowboys is now that you

1096
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: got brought pretty against an elite defense. All of a sudden,

1097
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 1: it's not so easy anymore. There aren't guys running wide

1098
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: open and free five yards away from the next defender.

1099
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: And to Purdy's credit, he had has been tremendous this

1100
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: year as a ball distributor, getting the ball out quickly,

1101
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: making the right reads, avoiding mistakes. That is so remarkable

1102
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: really for a seventh round pick that's a third string

1103
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: quarterback that entered the lineup in November or whatever. However,

1104
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: this is a different defense. It's it might even be

1105
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: better than the Dallas defense. And you have to contend

1106
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: with an absolutely ferocious pass rush that is going to

1107
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: speed up his clock and force him to make decisions

1108
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: quicker than he's had to make all season. And that's

1109
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: where I feel like they're most vulnerable, not that Purty

1110
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: is gonna be exposed as a non player or a

1111
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 1: guy that's not as good as people think, just that

1112
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: this matchup might be too much for this kid right

1113
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: now might be I mean I feel like we, you know,

1114
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: understandably have been saying that progressively each week. Well, this

1115
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: is the week when they're going to figure out brock party.

1116
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: I think the thing is it's not all on brock Purty,

1117
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: like he's surrounded by so many weapons and he's messed

1118
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: with them so well, and that you know, I thought

1119
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: Dallas really tested him last week in the first half.

1120
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: He was uncomfortable. They disguised coverages. Uh. He felt for

1121
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: some of that and worked his way out because I

1122
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: think the team around helps you work your way out.

1123
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: I think there are little I love what you said

1124
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: Greg about like the little ways that Philly can win

1125
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: because I think Shannahan is still the guy that's gonna

1126
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: kick a field goal when maybe you need to be

1127
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: doing something to be more aggressive, and let's sort of

1128
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: been his d n A. He says he's not going

1129
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: to change people kind of ask. I don't think he will.

1130
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: I think I think there's this is someone that's been

1131
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: bathed in football forever and he's got a lot of

1132
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: his dad in him, but just who he is in general,

1133
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: there are little, tiny areas because the Niners have had

1134
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: issues against quarter running quarterbacks there ninete in the league,

1135
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: but they're really good against the run in general. They're

1136
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: giving up seventy seven yards a game. They haven't allowed

1137
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: a hundred yard rush roll all year and last week.

1138
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: I mean, the Eagles just match up so well against

1139
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: the Giants, and each time they played him as just

1140
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: they both lines were so physically dominant. This different situation here,

1141
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: You've got two of the best offensive lines in the league,

1142
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: two of the best deepest defensive lines that can just

1143
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: put out rotations of players, and you're right about the

1144
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: Eagles pass rush, but you got Trent Williams. This is

1145
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: not the giants suation this time around, and I kind

1146
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: of just trust the way that the Eagles of the

1147
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: Niners are coached to keep Rock pretty safer than as

1148
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: someone like Daniel Jones was a week ago. The other

1149
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: thing is the Eagles defense is phenomenal. They can get

1150
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, but you can run on them. It's

1151
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: been a little bit better of late. I think that

1152
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: it's different when you've got guys like Lynval Joseph who

1153
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: has made a big difference against the run. I mean,

1154
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: their run defense has improved, but overall the twenty one.

1155
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: I go back to this game that feels like a

1156
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: total aberation, but that Commander's loss on Monday Night, which

1157
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: is really weird. Washington just went at them and ran

1158
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: the ball forty nine times. But they are stronger upfront

1159
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: now and they've gotten new guys are the Dominican Sioux

1160
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: as well, so Jordan Davis is back. So I don't

1161
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: know if it's I could see a defensive battle, which

1162
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: I would love in this, but I feel like you

1163
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: could make a Pro Bowl team added these two rosters

1164
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: and go play anyone the a f C gives at

1165
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: you and probably win. Like I don't. I can't remember

1166
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: two teams this stacked all over the place dealing with

1167
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: each other in the title game. And you said, you

1168
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: know it's different with Trent Williams, and true, Trent william

1169
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: is the first team All Pro, but you know whose

1170
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: second team A bro Andrew Thomas, the left tackle of

1171
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: the Giants. And so it's not just about like that spot,

1172
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: it's that that they have so many guys that they

1173
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: could just roll at you and they what do they

1174
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: lead the league in sacks by like fifteen sacks or

1175
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: something like that across the board. It was just relentless

1176
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: across the entire season, and and that to me, like, yeah,

1177
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 1: it's not all about the quarterback. But what I saw

1178
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: from Jalen Hurts last week makes me think he's going

1179
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: to continue to be that dude. And I just think

1180
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: that's if you really have to figure out, like where

1181
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: is the mismatch here? I do think it is at

1182
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: QB more than anywhere else at where Hurts playing at

1183
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: an MVP level the season and party in a different

1184
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: place in his career. I think the first quarter is huge.

1185
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: Both these teams are really good with the lead, especially

1186
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: the Eagles because of what you mentioned that the run

1187
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: defense probably is the weakest part of either team in

1188
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: this entire game. So in the forty, Niners are built

1189
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: to go after it. And I am curious are they

1190
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: gonna use Jordan Davis. He kind of came in late

1191
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: last week. He's been injured. Joseph in to have been okay,

1192
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: but there they were on the street for a reason.

1193
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: So like, if the Eagles can get a lead, then

1194
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 1: I feel like the difference in pretty having to really

1195
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: step up could become something and it might only take

1196
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: a turn over to But if the forty Niners are

1197
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: get the lead earlier. It's tight, like the the Eagles

1198
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: haven't always been in those sort of games, and that

1199
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: is the type of game that that I expected to be.

1200
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: What an incredible story would be. By the way, if

1201
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: Party shreds the Eagles on Sunday, I'm totally uncharted territory.

1202
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: I mean that would be, uh, that would be I

1203
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: think you have opportunities because I think they'll be built

1204
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: to stop the run and see what Party can do,

1205
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: especially the story for two weeks leading to the super Bowl.

1206
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: If he has a big NFC title game and he's

1207
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: eight knows a starter, everything I go, even the hook

1208
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: of it all is mr irrelevant. We are And I think,

1209
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: like Mark, I I know you enough in terms of

1210
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: your football like watching and as an analyst that you

1211
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,959
Speaker 1: like you favor chaos and things that haven't happened before,

1212
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: and that's what Party is. Obviously, he's something. This is

1213
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: an unprecedented situation. So that's that's fun and I hope

1214
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: I hope he does play well because that's a great story.

1215
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: I want to know, like as Christian McCaffrey healthy. Yeah,

1216
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: that's another big part of it. That's they say it's

1217
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: a contusion of his calf, but you know, he wasn't

1218
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: getting vital touches in the final minutes of the divisional

1219
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: playoff game. I like Elijah Mitchell a lot, but is

1220
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: he banged up again too. I mean, they both were

1221
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: out of practice and are expected to play. But I'm

1222
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: with you, there's a big difference on passing down and

1223
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: they did not run the ball well against the Cowboys.

1224
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: I think as a team they averaged three and a

1225
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: half yards of carry. You're gonna need to give your

1226
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback big time support in the running game. Yeah,

1227
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: they have thirty two carries for a hundred and thirteen yards.

1228
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: They did get better as that game war on. I

1229
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: think that And this is what I don't know if

1230
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: this you have this effect against the Eagles, but Dallas

1231
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: was winded by the end of that. I think that's

1232
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: the effect of this offense. It starts with their offensive line,

1233
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: and they weren't breaking out the huge breakaway runs with

1234
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: McCaffrey and stuff with which we've seen in other weeks.

1235
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: But they tired Dallas down by the end of it

1236
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: opened things up for Purtty a little bit. You know.

1237
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: The other part is Dak p down his leg last week.

1238
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: There was a lot of fad possessions and you're sending

1239
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: that defense back on the field. That's not how this

1240
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: Eagle's offense. I know San Francisco's defense is also excellent.

1241
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles are gonna have long drives. I

1242
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be able to score points in this game,

1243
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: and I think that will help the defense from getting

1244
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: tired out and getting worn out as well. I agree

1245
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: the performance by Purdy I thought was better. Looking at

1246
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: it again on the All twenty two and stuff like,

1247
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: there weren't really guys open. I think Dallas did an

1248
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: excellent job. They stopped the run. There weren't those plays

1249
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: where you just see there was a couple, but we're

1250
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: just like they make it real easy for pretty And

1251
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: actually I thought he did a great job not forcing

1252
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: it and he made a couple of really good throws.

1253
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: But that I think that was a game where he

1254
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: could have collapsed. Because he didn't, he avoided the big mistake.

1255
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: And I do worry just a little bit as someone

1256
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: who's picking the Eagles, clearly rooting for the Eagles that

1257
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: like they're coaching staff. Jonathan Gannon who Nick Sirianni really

1258
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: defends his coordinator who the radio host apparently Angelo's pistol

1259
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: and Angelo's piste off. Nick with his derisive comments about

1260
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon, I do worry a little bit, like are

1261
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: they as flexible? Are they gonna show as much different

1262
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: looks quarter to quarter, snap to snap, Like they haven't

1263
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: been that team. They've played a lot of soft zone

1264
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: Like I do think sending some blitz is that purty

1265
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: could work. It absolutely worked for Dallas last week. Quinn,

1266
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: I think had an excellent game plan. Do I think

1267
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: the Eagles are are as good as complete No, I

1268
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: just think they're like an incredible pass rush team, especially

1269
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: Reddick and Sweat, and that might be enough. Like Josh

1270
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: Sweat and Graham coming in as the third rusher, like

1271
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: those three alone might be enough to do it. But

1272
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: coaching wise, I'm a little worried about the Annahan versus

1273
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: Gannon matchup. Well, I think it's like a huge like

1274
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: Gannon can change what you think about him. But Nick

1275
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: Sirianni too, is has floated under the radar, like has

1276
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: to outduel Shanahan, which is probably a way bigger challenge,

1277
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: and he's dealt with. That's not like dealing with you know,

1278
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: half of the stuff he would in the regular season.

1279
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: Shanahan right now is on till. I mean, he's done

1280
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: such a good job scheming wide outs open for Brock

1281
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: Party and it means you're struggling. Means that's true like

1282
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: an old like a show. Yeah, I was trying to

1283
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: give you my mackinations. He's not on toil, that's happening yet.

1284
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: But I mean he likes pretty. That is a disgusting

1285
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: sound drop pretty like like he just seems mentally strong

1286
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: to me, because like he could have crumbled last week.

1287
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: You're right, and there's been other situations like that, and

1288
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: he's he's well coached. But I think it's I think

1289
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: it's who he is, and like that's what everyone's saying

1290
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: about him. And like, you know, you had one week

1291
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: where George Kittle lad you and receiving the next week

1292
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 1: it's Deebo Samuel. Then what's Brandon? I you because been

1293
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: playing out of his mind. It's like you can shut

1294
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: one of these guys down? Can you do it all

1295
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: across the board? I say you can't because I am

1296
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: a so far out of the law competition at this

1297
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: point that I've just been thrown out of a moving aircraft,

1298
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: so it doesn't really matter. But I'm locking up the

1299
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: Niners because I believe in them, and I like, this

1300
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: is a team I want to see in the super

1301
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: Bowl and winning the Super Bowl. I become a fan

1302
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: boy of the Niners. You are you, You've always been

1303
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: a Shanahan fan boy. And and Shanahan, by the way,

1304
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: has some ghosts to slay as well. You know, they

1305
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: kind of gagged away a Super Bowl trip last year.

1306
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: Let's be real against the Rams, I think top ten

1307
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, Shanahan is the o C that

1308
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: presided over three and the losing effort. I believe there

1309
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: was one other game, the Super Bowl against the Chiefs,

1310
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: another uh significant lead late in that game, Shanahan let

1311
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: it get away. Does that make me nervous? Not really.

1312
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: But he does have kind of a bit of assorted

1313
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: history in the playoffs. But the fact that he's also

1314
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: keeps popping up in these huge playoff games, super Bowls,

1315
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: championship games speaks to that he's a great coach. He

1316
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: is one of those five or six guys that are

1317
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: difference makers and a person I have to play the game.

1318
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: There's the game. There's the zeuser, like who I think

1319
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: is gonna win the game, and then there's zuser who

1320
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: does not want to give the trop that feels like

1321
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: the ultimate mirror tests. It doesn't matter in this case.

1322
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: I don't care. It doesn't matter. But you are the

1323
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: first person who put the mirror tests out there, right,

1324
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: I got your mirror right here? What's what's why is

1325
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: a mirror involved here? You weren't picking a game that

1326
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: you don't believe in that it's strategy. I'm saying, there's strategy.

1327
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: This is a game, Greg, and the game is now.

1328
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: I have to come get you. I will lock up

1329
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: the Niners um because there is a path. They're the Niners.

1330
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: They haven't lost since October. Party has been a revelation,

1331
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: and they have guys like Deebo Samuel, like Brandon Ayuk,

1332
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: like Trent Williams. There are superstars Fred Funga, my guy

1333
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: had a great game last week, Bosa. There's stars, Fred Warner,

1334
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: There's stars all over the place. And it is certainly

1335
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: within the realm of possibilities that the Niners deliver in

1336
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: a big time effort with their all star team. So

1337
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: that's how I get within one game of Greggy heading

1338
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 1: into Super Bowl Sunday, and we are this is the

1339
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: Energy Brothers. It feels like a different flock Brothers energy.

1340
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: But I'm just there to support you. I love you, buddy,

1341
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: and I promise you moving you as well, Greg, but

1342
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: in a different way, in a way that isn't real. Dan,

1343
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 1: you should mention to the listeners who we never actually

1344
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 1: said it on the pod last week, this is your

1345
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: second week in a row locking the niner. I did.

1346
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: I moved a showman. That was my move over the Showman.

1347
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: Why do you think we're having all this conversation is

1348
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: I didn't go down with the giants, and I knew

1349
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: by pushing it to this week, the games would get

1350
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: a lot tighter and it wouldn't feel like now you're

1351
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 1: just playing for a tie, and that would be annoying

1352
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: to tie. But I guess it's good I have a

1353
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: tie championship. But the Thai ones are we probably need

1354
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 1: to read that the lemplify for you. Would you rather

1355
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: win outright or be in a tie? Well, right, I

1356
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 1: would rather win out right, of course, So this annoys you?

1357
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,560
Speaker 1: Then more tell you if were you you go for

1358
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: the tie It's just like, what does that even mean

1359
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: you to come up with you? You know, you know

1360
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: this show well enough and you know Dan well enough

1361
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: that by the time we get to mayor June, that

1362
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: tie is tilted verbally in Dan's favor in every possible way.

1363
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: So it means a lot. I said, the trophy is

1364
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: in my house. Am I going to give you the

1365
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: trophy if you tied? And that part wouldn't You can

1366
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,799
Speaker 1: come look at forever. I don't care about the trophy.

1367
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: It's as you want to. You want to win the thing.

1368
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: The trophy is what matters. I will hand the trophy

1369
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: over um gracefully on Sunday night. On Sunday night if

1370
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles triumph that it's very important to have a

1371
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: transfer of power that is respectful, Well, I'll be dishonorable

1372
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: to keep it if you lose out right. So, but

1373
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: if we go into Super Bowl Sunday with Greg up one,

1374
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: he'll feel the heat that I was on last year.

1375
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: Now you guys were tied, that's almost better that way. Well,

1376
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: you're going to feel that heat to put this thing

1377
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: away and find a way, and I'll be going off

1378
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: your pick again just like I was last year. The

1379
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,600
Speaker 1: pressure is all on you, is what I'm trying to

1380
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: say right now, Well, I do. It does help to

1381
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: know that I have no power over what's going to happen,

1382
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 1: and that it's all luck if I get this right

1383
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: or wrong, if I win, I I freely admit it's

1384
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: entirely luck. No, you don't, don't sell it that way.

1385
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: What is going on with you with this? Like I mean,

1386
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: in these games in general, you know, it's all thinking

1387
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: about this than any person I've ever met in my life.

1388
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: You still try to get it. But I think we

1389
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: can read all that a two games study, all the

1390
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: reading that you do, all the all the different things

1391
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,440
Speaker 1: that you do to be a more knowledgeable, full planelist.

1392
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: It's kind of weird to to say none of it

1393
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: matters at all in terms of picking games. I don't

1394
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: think it makes a significant difference, certainly over picking a

1395
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: one game a week. And that's why you get like,

1396
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, moms who don't even watch winning football pools,

1397
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: because I think there's something to be said there. Um

1398
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: let's run it back. I think it's for my mom.

1399
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 1: Did you say that or was that a drop? That

1400
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: was a drop? I don't know what the reflection. Jalen

1401
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: Hurts is gonna get it done. Just said something about moms,

1402
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 1: by the way, dads that don't watch football. I get

1403
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: everyone whoever doesn't wat football can win these One little

1404
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: thing to keep an eye with Hurts though, is uh.

1405
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: I think he's matured a lot, and like these linebackers

1406
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: who are so good for the forty Islands, to me,

1407
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: are like their whole defense, but they're very aggressive. One

1408
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: thing Mahomes did great when he shredded them was he

1409
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: looked them off with his eyes throughout that game, and

1410
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: they almost teach that like watching the quarterbacks eyes and

1411
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: to be Hurts, his has matured so much. This game

1412
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: is on him. If he can be the passer inside

1413
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: the pocket and take advantage of those mismatches, He's got

1414
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: the two. I take DeVonta Smith in ag Brown over

1415
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: at YU can debot, especially in this matchup because the

1416
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: cornerbacks for the Eagles are better. Like I think this

1417
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: is a Hurts moment here. I think it's gonna be

1418
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: up to him. If he plays as well as I

1419
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: think he can, they win. Otherwise, I think the forty

1420
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: nine are actually a little bit better of a team overall. Yeah,

1421
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: I mean I do care about the situation with Hurts

1422
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 1: the shoulder too. I mean, it's still the ways, the

1423
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 1: way he talks about He's like, I felt better, but

1424
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to go so well, so that part

1425
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: of it maybe on the ground shift that thing, uh

1426
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: into cruise control for the last two and a half

1427
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: quarters and two quarters like it ain't gonna be like

1428
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: with San Francisco coming after him now. But I guess,

1429
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean, like if the shoulder was good on that

1430
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: first what was that the second play of the game,

1431
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: that beautiful throat. I don't think it's throwing so much

1432
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: like like if it like the hurts the runner, if

1433
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: he's if it's even making you think differently about what

1434
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: contact you because I think with Mahomes and Hurts, both

1435
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: of it, it's not where they are. It's like, do

1436
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: you reaggravate that in the middle of the game then

1437
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: everything changes? Nicko trying to kill you for three and

1438
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: a half hours, that would be a cause of consternation.

1439
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: Uh if I were nick Sirianni. By the way, just

1440
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: so we have this buttoned up, what is your lock? Mr?

1441
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 1: Grave Digger? So I've decided not to lock anywhere this year,

1442
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 1: not that anyone cares, but I shut it down. I

1443
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: prefer to finish the season at ten and ten makes sense.

1444
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,600
Speaker 1: Derek Hard yourself, these are the two hardest weeks I

1445
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: guess of the season because there there won't be anything.

1446
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 1: Spreads didn't have the decision. He was Derek. He was

1447
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: Derek Hard by himself, but he did like excuse himself

1448
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: from the team. You're right, Carr wanted to play. I'm

1449
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: saying that he the authoritative part of him, Derek Hard

1450
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: the rest of him, which makes no sense at all.

1451
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 1: Let's check out the standings before championship Sunday. Do we

1452
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: need to good season? By the way, Greg sixteen and four,

1453
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: Dan hands is fourteen and six. Westboro, well we have

1454
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: we have words now this Westbroo's so close, grave digger,

1455
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: great effort, Mark pathetic. Well, first of all, that's not

1456
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: even correctly slotted. I'm not in last place or anywhere

1457
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: near it. So I think say everyone's tied if you're

1458
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: not in the mix. So in that sense, it's just

1459
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,440
Speaker 1: I really would, genuinely at this stage, I want information

1460
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 1: intel on who wrote that, because there will be a

1461
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: come up in a particularly large human that person will

1462
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: be will be punished. How how do you plan to

1463
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: beat up a man that's twice your height? There are

1464
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: multiple ways to punish human individuals. Little shots at the knees.

1465
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 1: You gotta chop him down, shop him down. Does he

1466
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: stay up twenty four hours a day? Do his eyes

1467
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: ever closed? Smart? He does? He's a giant. He needs rest.

1468
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that Jerry's out Andrew doing human stuff

1469
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: like that. We'll learn, all right. That was Sunday Jive

1470
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 1: presented by Toyota Championships. Sunday. Let's just let's see Fox Niners, Eagles,

1471
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,600
Speaker 1: Kevin Barcarton, Greg Olson three pm Eastern kickoff, Bangles at

1472
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: Chiefs six thirty pm Eastern kickoff, Nance and Roma big

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Speaker 1: game for Romo. Come on, Tony, give us. I would

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Speaker 1: flip these. I would have had the absolutely well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just assumed that's what it was. And then they

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Speaker 1: they pulled a fastinalment. They schedule it, you know, ahead

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Speaker 1: of time, years ahead. It flip flops every year. We'll

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Speaker 1: put the Diners and Eagles in the a FC just

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Speaker 1: for this week, then have them. Why would you flip

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Speaker 1: flop it? Which game? Which game? Like? I feel like

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Speaker 1: I've seen to me, it's Eagles Niners. They they even

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Speaker 1: they haven't like, they haven't even clashed. They're both huge entrees.

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Speaker 1: But I would push back and say, Joe Burrow versus

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Speaker 1: Patrick Effin Mahomes is uh the ultimately you can only

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Speaker 1: watch one diner. You have to go to the Zoo

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Speaker 1: for the other game, Bengals Chiefs. To me, that's like,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean I think you're I'm not You're crazy.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, we're not crazy either. Because both games have

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Speaker 1: an argument. I'm more emotionally invested in the Eagles. I

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Speaker 1: locked it up largely because that's the result I want

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Speaker 1: the most. That's it. Earlier point is though, it's because

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Speaker 1: I wanted just to watch Bengals Chiefs as pure as possible.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be like, really annoyed if Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes has like a beautiful performance. These are these are

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Speaker 1: the guys. Patrick is a quarterback now not zoo. On Sunday,

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Speaker 1: we are watching both games, as are you. If you're

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Speaker 1: listening and watching this right now, so enjoy the football.

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Speaker 1: We will be back Sunday night with a full recap

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Speaker 1: of both these games. And guess what we're gonna know

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Speaker 1: who's playing in the damn super Bowl. That's fun until then,

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Speaker 1: enjoy your weekend, and he'd the call s