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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Sick conspiracies growing abounding on the Internet after Texas twin

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Speaker 2: Austin Metcalf football star stabbed dead at his high school

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Speaker 2: track meet. I'm Nancy Grace, this is crime Stories. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for being with us.

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Speaker 3: Austin Medcalf is a seventeen year old straight a student

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Speaker 3: and football star at Frisco Memorial High School. But what

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Speaker 3: is supposed to start out as an ordinary track of

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Speaker 3: year ends in tragedy for the prodigious athlete.

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Speaker 2: Two twin brothers scrubbed in sunshine. One bleeds out dead

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Speaker 2: in the arms of his twin brother as we go

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Speaker 2: to air tonight. What I perceive to be an outrageous defense.

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Speaker 1: First of all, listen to this well.

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Speaker 4: His brother was holding him, trying to hold the blood in,

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Speaker 4: and he passed. My son watched his brother die in

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Speaker 5: During a track meet between Memorial High School and Centennial

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Speaker 5: High School in Frisco, Texas, a light rain begins to

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Speaker 5: fall and athletes take cover under tents with their respective

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Speaker 5: teams at Kukendall Stadium. Memorial High School athlete Austin Metcalf

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Speaker 5: finds Centennial High School athlete Carmelo Anthony under the Memorial

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Speaker 5: High School tent and tells him he needs to move

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Speaker 5: from under his team's tent. When Anthony refuses, words are

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Speaker 5: exchanged and Anthony tells Metcalf, touch me and see what happens.

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Speaker 2: He first heard from the victim's father that from our

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Speaker 2: friends at Fox four joining us an all star panel

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Speaker 2: to make sense of.

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Speaker 1: A senseless and brutal stabbing.

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Speaker 2: I cannot get the image out of my mind of

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Speaker 2: this star athlete bleeding out dead as his twin brother

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Speaker 2: tried to stop the bleeding, holding him in his arms.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've been to plenty of high school track events,

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Speaker 2: my son has been involved in track from the get go,

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Speaker 2: and I can't even imagine a fatal stabbing over a

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Speaker 2: seat in a tent straight out to special guests joining us.

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Speaker 2: Katie Barber, Senior digital content producer at my San Antonio

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Speaker 2: dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Katie, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: What do we believe happened that led up to the

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Speaker 2: horrible stabbing death of this young star athlete? Literally scrubbed

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Speaker 2: and sunshine? And why did the suspect have a knife

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Speaker 2: at a track meet?

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Speaker 6: It's really not clear why he had a knife at

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Speaker 6: the track meet on April second, but unfortunately he did.

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Speaker 7: One witness told police that they.

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Speaker 6: Were sitting with Metcalf under their school tent when some

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Speaker 6: they didn't know now identified as Carmelo Anthony came over

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Speaker 6: to them, and he is allegedly when I grabbed the

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Speaker 6: touch me and see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what wait?

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Speaker 2: Hold on, Katie Barbara joining me from my San Antonio

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Speaker 2: dot com.

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Speaker 1: Who said what? Who sat down where? Who said what?

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Speaker 1: And who said touch me and see what happens? Give

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Speaker 1: me proper names.

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Speaker 6: One witness told an officer that they were sitting with

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Speaker 6: Metcalf under the school's tent when Carmelo Anthony came over

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Speaker 6: to them. While they were in the tent, The witness said,

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Speaker 6: Metcalf told Anthony to leave the tent, and when he

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Speaker 6: did that, Anthony grabbed his bag, opened it, reached inside

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Speaker 6: police said in the doctor that no one believed that

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Speaker 2: Well, somebody had a weapon because Austin stabbed dead to

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Speaker 2: Lisa Herrick, joining US veteran Jevenile attorney partner at Vargie Somerset.

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Speaker 1: This is important.

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Speaker 2: Former juvenile prosecutor, Lisa, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 8: Thank Nancy.

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Speaker 2: That's enough time to form premeditation right there now. I

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Speaker 2: know that you defend juveniles after having been a juvenile prosecutor,

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Speaker 2: But the reality is, under the black and white letter

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Speaker 2: of the law, okay, premeditation, the intent to kill, or

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Speaker 2: the intent to commit any act can be formed in

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Speaker 2: the blink of an eye, the twinkling of a moment,

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Speaker 2: pull the trigger. The law does not require a long

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Speaker 1: Mensrea Malissa forethought.

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Speaker 2: For instance, say long drawn out period, I'm poisoning someone

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Speaker 2: every single day, just a tiny bit of arsenic and

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Speaker 1: Why do I care?

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Speaker 2: Because premeditation or Malisa fourth thought, mince raya is a

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Speaker 1: Absolutely?

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Speaker 9: Intent is one of the main elements of a murder

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Speaker 9: or an assault, an aggravated assault with a deadly weapon

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Speaker 9: that turns into a murder. Because in Texas. We have

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Speaker 9: a number of different ways that murder can be committed,

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Speaker 9: or the language for a murder can be alleged, one

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Speaker 9: of which can be that you intend for a person

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Speaker 9: intentional or knowing actions, are such that you would know

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Speaker 9: that a person would die. So stabbing someone in the heart,

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Speaker 9: you would certainly know that a person would die if

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Speaker 9: you stab someone in the heart, and that knowledge or

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Speaker 9: that intent, like you said.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, Lisa, Harriet joining me veteran, try a lawyer.

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Speaker 1: Lisa, You're absolutely correct.

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Speaker 2: And I've got a great example, because when I speak

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Speaker 2: can't state that this was my idea. I got it

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Speaker 2: from someone in the New Testament. I like to give examples, Okay, stories.

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Speaker 2: For instance, if I take a gun and point it

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Speaker 2: right over at my executive producer right here, Jackie, and

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Speaker 2: pull the trigger and then say, oh, I just meant

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Speaker 2: to scare her. I didn't mean to kill her. The

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Speaker 2: law presumes you intend the natural consequence of your act.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to say I will now kill you, bam.

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Speaker 2: The law presumes you intend.

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Speaker 1: The natural consequence of your act.

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Speaker 2: So when you take the time to go to your

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Speaker 2: duffel bag, your athletic bag, unzip it, get out a knife,

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Speaker 2: and then stab someone. And then we have the previous

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Speaker 2: threat touch me, touch me, and see what's.

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Speaker 2: All of that adds together to make a premeditated murder case.

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Speaker 2: Now you have not only prosecuted jeevenile cases felonies, which

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Speaker 2: is a whole other animal prosecuting injevenile court, GV Court

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Speaker 2: versus big court. What's your defense in this case, Lisa?

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Speaker 2: What would your defense possibly be? Is it true that

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Speaker 2: a stand your ground defense is brewing?

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Speaker 9: A standard ground defense is hard in this fact situation

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Speaker 9: because stand your ground law presumes that the victim is

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Speaker 9: somewhere that they are not supposed to be. Right, you're

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Speaker 9: defending your space when standard ground law applies. And certainly

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Speaker 9: Austin was in a place where he was allowed to be.

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Speaker 9: Now I think Carmelo probably was allowed to be where

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Speaker 9: theory that is supposed to be used. Deadly force meets

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Speaker 9: deadly force. The self defense is not ka.

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Speaker 2: Lisa, again, you're absolutely correct regarding the letter of the law.

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Speaker 2: I like to use this example. You can't slap me

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Speaker 2: As for instance, I can't battle back against your fly

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Speaker 2: swatter with a machine gun. So you said it deadly

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Speaker 2: force equals deadly force. But here isn't it true that

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Speaker 2: Austin Metcalf was unarmed, So to introduce a deadly weapon

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Speaker 1: Correct?

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Speaker 9: And even more so self defense without a deadly weapon.

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Speaker 9: Regular self defense is not a justifiable fence to use

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 8: Everybody was able to Seema son holy gurney with a

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Speaker 3: Centennial High School's Carmelo Anthony reaches inside his bag, grabs

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Speaker 2: At first, you were hearing Austin's father speaking to our

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Speaker 1: Devastated.

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Speaker 2: I cannot even imagine what it would be like for

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Speaker 2: that play all their sports together, that do everything together.

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Speaker 2: me go straight out to a special guest joining us.

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Speaker 2: Also like Lisa Herrick joining us from this jurisdiction, Doctor

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Speaker 2: Kimdall Crowns with US Chief Medical Examiner Terran County. That's

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Speaker 2: Fort Worth never like a business in that Morgue, esteemed

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Speaker 2: lecturer at the Burnett School of Medicine at TCU, Texas

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Speaker 2: Christian University, and launching a brand new podcast, Make Him

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Speaker 2: in the Morgue, April fourteen, Doctor Kimdall Crowns, I know

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Speaker 2: you've studied the case very carefully. Was there a way

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Speaker 2: his twin brother could have saved Austin?

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Speaker 10: I know there wouldn't have been because the stab wound

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Speaker 10: basically in ther when you get stabbed. Explain why, Because

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Speaker 10: it's your heart, it's you know, it's all your blood's

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Speaker 10: coming through there, it's all being pumped out. And then

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Speaker 10: impossible to save that individual. And just putting pressure on

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Speaker 10: they're just going to bleed into their chest cavity.

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about what you're saying, doctor Kingdall Crowns.

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Speaker 2: Because Katie Barber was awesome and stabbed in the heart.

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Speaker 7: The arrest document states seem is stabbed in the chest.

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Speaker 2: So interesting, I wonder how close to the heart he

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Speaker 2: was stabbed.

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Speaker 1: So okay, daughter killo Crowns.

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Speaker 2: Let's digest that not stabbed in the heart stab in

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Speaker 10: So it depends on where exactly in the chest you

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Speaker 10: go up. But if you're kind of in the midline

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Speaker 10: or to the left, that's going to be the heart.

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Speaker 10: is the main vessel coming off the heart. They're going

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Speaker 10: But from all the information I've seen, it doesn't sound

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, not General Crowns.

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Speaker 2: If I were explaining this to a jury, okay, I

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Speaker 10: That actually takes longer. From the descriptions I've read from

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Speaker 5: Seventeen year old Austin Metcalf is being held by his

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Speaker 2: How could a beautiful, young first grade teacher be stabbed

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Speaker 2: door meeting he first named it a homicide. Why what

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Speaker 2: happened to Ellen Greenberg? A huge American miscarriage of justice.

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Speaker 3: Witnesses report of squabble overseating at a track meet tent

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Speaker 3: The suspect a fellow seventeen year old student athlete.

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Speaker 1: Listen to Austin's brother.

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Speaker 11: First off, I didn't know what to do, and then

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Speaker 2: The mother, Megan Metcalf, and so much pain she can't

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Speaker 2: Katy explain to me the logistics of what Hunter, the

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Speaker 1: Where was he, what did he observe.

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Speaker 2: And what if anything did he do when he saw

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Please explain.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, when arrived they immediately They said they could.

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Speaker 6: See blood on and around him. They coordinated with officers

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Speaker 6: In another interview, he said he didn't see the stabbing

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Speaker 2: Event, he says, at first he froze for just a

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Speaker 1: Tried to stop the flow of blood. A joining me.

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Speaker 2: Doctor John Delatory, psychologist, mediator specializing in forensic psychology, dodgre.

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Speaker 1: Delatory, thank you for being with us. What is that

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Speaker 12: Well to trauma response number one. It's the idea that

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Speaker 12: Once he does catch up, he's able to catch his brother,

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Speaker 1: A school resource officer, first of the sayne take a

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Speaker 13: A school resource officer is first on the scene and

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Speaker 13: Here's the officer saying he has the alleged stabbing suspect

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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm not alleged I did it.

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Speaker 2: did you hear what the suspect said? And I quote,

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's a pretty damning utterance from an evidentiary value.

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Speaker 14: And you know, he pretty much admitted to the crime

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Speaker 2: O Kate, Barry, Barry, I know that. I just read

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Speaker 14: Well, the witnesses are going to contradict what he says anyway,

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Speaker 7: There's twelve of those folks.

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Speaker 14: Apparently or more, and they're going to make a statement

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Speaker 14: with prosecution. From that point. His defense is going to

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Speaker 2: Forced Lisa here joining me, veteran trial lawyer in this jurisdiction, Lisa,

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Speaker 2: explain again in a nutshell what is now emerging as

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Speaker 1: Get to that in a moment.

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Speaker 2: But I pray that Austin's parents have not seen what

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Speaker 2: But Lisa, in a nutshell, in regular people talk, do

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Speaker 1: How and the hay is that going to apply here?

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Speaker 1: You can shoot them right then and there.

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Speaker 2: If you're so disposed standing your ground, You're in a

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Speaker 9: Right, stand your ground. We commonly use the phrase no

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm reading the supplemental arrest report and the narrative

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Speaker 1: Katie.

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Speaker 2: My understanding from having read the police reports and the

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Speaker 2: Austin says, this isn't your tent, get.

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Speaker 2: At that point, at that point, what does the suspect do?

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Speaker 6: But when he was grabbed by Austin is when he

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Speaker 3: A police escort Carmelo Anthony to a squad car. Anthony

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Speaker 2: How could a beautiful, young first grade teacher be stabbed

443
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: twenty times, including in the back, allegedly die of suicide. Yes,

444
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: that was the medical examiner's official ruling after a closed

445
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: door meeting. He first named it a homicide. Why what

446
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 2: happened to Ellen Greenberg? A huge American miscarriage of justice?

447
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: For an in depth look at the facts, see what

448
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: Happened to Ellen on Amazon? All proceeds to the National

449
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: Center for Missing and Exploited Children. How does a teen boy,

450
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: a twin star athlete in Texas end up stabbed dead

451
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 2: at a track mate of all places?

452
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: Listen to US's dad.

453
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Speaker 15: Great harting true up with me and him and Austin,

454
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Speaker 15: and I'm gonna come over and see you this week

455
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 15: and so call look forward to it. Hey, I love you, dad,

456
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 15: That's the love you Tucson. Those were the last words ever.

457
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: Heard from me.

458
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 2: The fauthor and the twin speaking to our friends at

459
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: Dallas Morning News. What about the blood evidence in this case?

460
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: With conflicting witness reports, with the suspect claiming self defenses

461
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: stand your ground although no punches were seen thrown, that

462
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: blood evidence becomes critical. Remember it was raining.

463
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: The track meet is outside.

464
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 5: Listen as law enforcement and paramedics arrive on scene. The

465
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 5: rain is falling harder. One officer moves the memorial tent

466
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 5: over the victim of medics trained to save his life,

467
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 5: and finding the bloody knife in the stands, quickly takes

468
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 5: photos of it before the rain could wash away all

469
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Speaker 5: the blood. A blue tarp is used to cover the

470
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Speaker 5: knife in an effort to preserve the evidence, and because

471
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 5: it was so windy, the officer uses a nearby backpack

472
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 5: to weigh down the tarp. He doesn't realize at the

473
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 5: time the backpack belongs to suspect Carmelo Anthony photo.

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Speaker 1: No juris don't want.

475
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Speaker 2: Just a photo, They want DNA DEYOXURII, boat and nucleic

476
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: acid straight out to renowned medical examiner, doctor Kendall Crowns.

477
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Speaker 2: Joining us from this jurisdiction of Texas. Doctor Kendall crowns

478
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: the murder what we believe to be the murder weapon,

479
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: a knife covered in blood had been thrown or obscured,

480
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Speaker 2: let me just say euphemistically, and it was pouring rain.

481
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Speaker 2: What's the likelihood that we can get DNA off that knife?

482
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: Because the state needs the suspects DNA and the victims

483
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: DNA off that knife, Well, they.

484
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Speaker 10: Should probably still be able to get DNA from it,

485
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 10: unless it was scrubbed clean with a cleanser or a

486
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Speaker 10: soap of something of that nature. There's probably still enough

487
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 10: DNA on the handle and on the knife itself to

488
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Speaker 10: be able to get a good DNA sample. Also, you

489
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Speaker 10: have to figure because of the contact between the two boys,

490
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Speaker 10: there's probably a way of getting DNA from the victim

491
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 10: as well.

492
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Speaker 1: Kat Barber, where exactly was the knife discovered?

493
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Speaker 7: It was discovered in.

494
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Speaker 6: The bleachers on the north side of the stage at stadium,

495
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Speaker 6: which is where.

496
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Speaker 1: Well the hey did he get in the bleachers? Katie?

497
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Speaker 7: He ran off after the stabbing.

498
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Speaker 6: It didn't quite say a total direction, but he did

499
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Speaker 6: run off, and it's presumed that he threw the knife

500
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Speaker 6: when he ran off, because he didn't have the weapon

501
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Speaker 6: on him.

502
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Speaker 7: When he was detained.

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Speaker 2: Right a minute, right there, Katie barbermisan Antonio dot Com

504
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Speaker 2: to doctor John Delatory. If someone attacked me, and I

505
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Speaker 2: thought back, I wouldn't take off running and then hide

506
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Speaker 2: the weapon.

507
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Speaker 12: Yeah, you wouldn't. But here's the thing is that if

508
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 12: Anthony saw a bunch of other people, dozens of other

509
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 12: people that were also around and in that tent, he

510
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 12: might have felt overwhelmed. He might have felt scared. He

511
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Speaker 12: could have done all of these things just as a

512
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Speaker 12: matter of panic. So he runs off, knowing that he

513
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 12: shouldn't have stabbed this person, but he did it anyway.

514
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 12: He throws a knife away, he takes off thinking that

515
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Speaker 12: he's going to get very far. There's all kinds of

516
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Speaker 12: things that could be happening, because it does not appear

517
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 12: as though he intended to go to that track meet

518
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 12: with the specific purpose to kill Austin Metcalf. It does

519
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 12: seem like things were going on underneath that tent that

520
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 12: neither one of these two boys were prepared for, and

521
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 12: both are now suffering the consequences, with Austin having lost

522
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Speaker 12: his life for some kind of nonsense.

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Speaker 2: Lisa Herrik, you see where this is going. This state

524
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: is going to argue to a jury. He ran off

525
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: and disposed of the weapon because he knew what he'd

526
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: was wrong, and then immediately began forming a defense in

527
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: his mind and even asked law enforcement, Hey, could that

528
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Speaker 2: be self defense?

529
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Speaker 1: You think that's self defense?

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Speaker 9: There are a couple of things that cut in favor

531
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Speaker 9: of the self defense argument, and those are that he

532
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 9: did run away if he was scared, and he so

533
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Speaker 9: he he stabs scared.

534
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Speaker 2: Isn't he the one that said touch me and find out?

535
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: Is he the one that say, go, oh, punch me,

536
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: just see what happens. That doesn't sound scared to me.

537
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Speaker 9: I don't disagree with you, but getting into his mind

538
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 9: for a moment, and the argument that the defense is

539
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 9: going to make right, they have to come up with.

540
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Speaker 1: Someone do I have to get in his mind.

541
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Speaker 9: So if he'll say I was scared, I stabbed him.

542
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Speaker 9: I felt like the danger was subdued enough that I

543
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Speaker 9: could now safely escape, then I can see how running

544
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Speaker 9: away would cut in favor of self defense. I can

545
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 9: see what you're saying.

546
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Speaker 1: How running away? Okay, I don't sign up.

547
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: You just said, have you ever heard the phrase word salad?

548
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 2: Because I just heard one. Okay, wait a minute, what

549
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: did you say about the threat was subdued?

550
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Speaker 1: You mean he stabbed Austin in the chest? Is that

551
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: what you're talking about? So if the threat is subdued,

552
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: why run then?

553
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Speaker 9: Because there were plenty of other people around who were

554
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 9: potentially new dangers, right, people who saw him.

555
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: So now I don't know what you're saying. You're making

556
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: that up like a good defense attorney. What other people

557
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: presented a danger? Nobody?

558
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: What are you serious?

559
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 8: Well?

560
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean he he.

561
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: Stabs Austin dead, and then he is in danger of

562
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: what retribution?

563
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 9: People who want to hurt him now that Carmelo hurt

564
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 9: their friend was able to.

565
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 8: Seem my son on the gurney with a huge hole

566
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Speaker 8: and blow all over him, and they were pumping him.

567
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Speaker 4: He wasn't breathing, His eyes would rolled back in his head.

568
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: From our friends at Fox for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,

569
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Speaker 2: how could a beautiful, young first grade teacher be stabbed

570
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: twenty times, including in the back, allegedly die of suicide? Yes,

571
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: that was the medical examiner's official ruling after a closed

572
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: door meeting. He first named it a homicide. Why what

573
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: happened to Ellen Greenberg? A huge American miscarriage of justice.

574
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 2: For an in depth look at the facts, see what

575
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: Happened to Ellen on Amazon. All proceeds to the National

576
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: Center for Missing and Exploited Children. How does a teen

577
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: boy literally scrubbed in sunshine, great grade, star athlete, beloved

578
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: twin brother.

579
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Speaker 1: How does he end up stabbed dead at a high

580
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Speaker 1: school track meet.

581
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: No one saw punches being thrown, nothing like that. The

582
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Speaker 2: suspect and the victim had never even met, according to sources.

583
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Speaker 11: Listen, and then I went my head around and then Alsodden,

584
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Speaker 11: I see him running on the bleach, gut in his chest.

585
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 11: He just bought of us are out, he said the South.

586
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: There you see Austin's brother Hunter speaking out from our

587
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: friends at the Wheal Kane Show on Fox. Why ask why?

588
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: How many times has that been said in a courtroom?

589
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: A million? But as you all know.

590
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 2: The state is never required to show motive. Teams kill

591
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: for apparently no reason at all.

592
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: Listen.

593
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Speaker 5: High school Spanish teacher Noi mcgrabory is known for end

594
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 5: enjoying an afternoon walk at a park in Fairfield, Iowa.

595
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 5: When she turns up missing, Retracing her steps begins in

596
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 5: the park The body is found covered by a tarp, wheelbarrow,

597
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 5: and railroad ties, and she suffered head trauma. Cops don't

598
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 5: have to look much further than incriminating social media posts

599
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 5: of two sixteen year old students, Jeremy Goodell and Willard Miller,

600
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 5: from the school where Graver teaches.

601
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: One of the high schoolers thought they might get a

602
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: bad grade, and so two of.

603
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: Them go and murder the teacher. Yes, so a murder

604
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: over what I c minus.

605
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: Then there is another star student all A's, that commits

606
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Speaker 2: murder Derrick Rossa.

607
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Speaker 16: I need to know if your mom is is greeting,

608
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 16: She said, miss I have the gun with me.

609
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 4: I was going to shoot myself that I didn't want to.

610
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 15: I have more family members.

611
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 16: They can take care of my sister.

612
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: I just take th man I told my friend about

613
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: it was that bad?

614
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: That is teen boy Derek Rosa. We still don't know

615
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: any motive as to why he killed his mother and

616
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: then sent the photo of her sleeping in bed now

617
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: dead to friends, then asking was that bad that I

618
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: killed her and sent photos to friends? So a teen

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Speaker 2: kills for what motive?

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Speaker 1: None? And there's more.

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Speaker 5: Tristan Bailey last scene wearing her cheerleader uniform, went missing

622
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 5: on Mother's Day in Jacksonville, Florida. Surveillance video shows her

623
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Speaker 5: at one fifteen am. She's walking with a fourteen year

624
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Speaker 5: old classmate, Aidan Fucci. When police pick up Fucci for questioning,

625
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Speaker 5: he posts a photo of himself in the back of

626
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Speaker 5: a police car giving the V sign with the caption,

627
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Speaker 5: hey guys, has anybody seen Tristan lately? He also posted

628
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Speaker 5: a Snapchat video having fun in a beep cop car.

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Speaker 5: Tristan's body is discovered in a secluded wooded area. She's

630
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Speaker 5: been stabbed one hundred and five fourteen times.

631
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Speaker 2: This little girl was not raped, was not assaulted. There

632
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Speaker 2: was no robbery, So what was the motive? Apparently none

633
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Speaker 2: and more.

634
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 5: Jay Williams is fifteen years old. The day he and

635
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 5: sixteen year old Randy Thompson le were a fellow classmate

636
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 5: Michael Russell to his own home, where they stab him

637
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 5: multiple times in the chest, back, and neck. Russell's mother

638
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 5: returns home from running errands and finds his lifeless body

639
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Speaker 5: in the backyard. Williams and Thompson say they wanted to

640
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 5: see what it felt like to kill someone.

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Speaker 2: Lisa Herrick joining us that are in trial lawyer in

642
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: this jurisdiction of Texas. So number one for Austin. Even

643
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Speaker 2: if this did happen to have touched the suspect on

644
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: the shoulder and said get out of our tent, that

645
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: is not going to justify under self defense a deadly

646
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Speaker 2: attack with a knife.

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Speaker 1: And as far as motive.

648
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Speaker 2: You just heard all of those similar cases where teens kill,

649
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: they don't really have a motive.

650
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Speaker 1: The state doesn't have to prove motive, do they. The

651
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Speaker 1: state does not have to prove motive.

652
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Speaker 9: And that's mainly because it is nearly impossible to get

653
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Speaker 9: into the mind of a charged a defendant unless they

654
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Speaker 9: tell you what they were thinking. In this case, we

655
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Speaker 9: know that Carmelo is going to claim self depends, but

656
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 9: we don't know what he was actually thinking, and so

657
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 9: the state wouldn't be able to prove a motive without

658
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Speaker 9: knowing what he was actually thinking.

659
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Speaker 2: How could a beautiful, young first grade teacher be stabbed

660
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: twenty times, including in the back, allegedly die of suicide. Yes,

661
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: that was a medical examiner's official ruling after a closed

662
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: door meeting. He first named it a homicide. Why what

663
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: happened to Ellen? Greenberg a huge American miscarriage of justice.

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Speaker 2: For an in depth look at the facts, see what

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Speaker 2: Happened to Ellen on Amazon. All proceeds to the National

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Speaker 2: Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Teen boy Austin Metcalf

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Speaker 2: stamped dead at a high school track mate. Apparently no

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Speaker 2: justification for the stabbing, but at this hour, evil sick

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Speaker 2: conspiracy theories are promulgating online, including a fake autopsy report Katie.

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Speaker 6: Yes, the fake autopsy report that has been police have

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Speaker 6: warned about. Police have issued multiple warnings publicly on their

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Speaker 6: social media channels about false statements from the police chief

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Speaker 6: that have not come from him, as well as this

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Speaker 6: medical report that shows the primary cause of death being

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Speaker 6: a drug overdose with the secondary cause of death being

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Speaker 6: a stab wound. Police have said that that report has

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Speaker 6: not been released, so any sort of images purporting to

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Speaker 6: be the auto report are not true.

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Speaker 2: Texas Police as we go to air warning about misinformation

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Speaker 2: being promulgated online.

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Speaker 1: They are also warning.

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Speaker 2: People Katie Barber not to disseminate the false theories under

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Speaker 2: threat of what hampering, a hampering or handering a police investigation.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and they've also said that people who are pretending

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Speaker 6: to be officials. Like propagating this information can also be

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Speaker 6: charged with a third degree felony of impersonating a public servant.

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Speaker 6: So there are charges at play, and they are investigating

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Speaker 6: with the FBI into these matters.

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Speaker 2: What kind of an evil, sick person would create a

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Speaker 2: fake autopsy report suggesting that this boy, a star athlete,

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Speaker 2: died of a drug overdose. But obviously it's someone that

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Speaker 2: is signing with the suspect and trying to tarnish the

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Speaker 2: reputation of a young boy, a young boy with all

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Speaker 2: as star athlete and beloved Twin.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Twin, listen to his brother Hunter.

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Speaker 16: We're just one person. We did everything the same. We're

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Speaker 16: just exactly a light Twighton. We had no we had

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Speaker 16: a couple of differences, but most of the stuff we

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Speaker 16: did together and the stuff we had, it's just we

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Speaker 16: fell as one person. So it's like we just connected

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Speaker 16: so well and everything we did.

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Speaker 2: If you know or think you know anything about this case,

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Speaker 2: the state is still building its case.

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Speaker 1: The defense is starting to build their case.

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Speaker 2: Please dial nine seven two two nine two six thousand,

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Speaker 2: repeat two nine two six one thousand.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye,