1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: The second hour of play and Buck kicks off. Now, everybody, 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here with us. So 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: we know that there are some big moves afoot with 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Trump on the on the diplomacy front, and it's it's 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: a definitely, I think, going to be something that, if 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: it bears fruit, gonna put the Democrats even more on 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: the defensive. But more than that, it just goes to 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: show you that having a commander in chief of sound mind, 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: who actually knows where he is, what time it is, 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: and what's going on, is a good thing. Having a 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: commander in chief who is actually a leader can result 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: in things that really do help us out and and 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: help the world out in some ways too. Trump was 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: speaking about a whole range of things, but one of 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: them here is Ukraine. This is cut two. Here he 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: is talking about Russia, Ukraine, and NATO and where that 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: all fits in. 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: Listen. 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: I don't see any way that country in Russia's position 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: could allow them, just in their position, could allow them 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: to join NATO. I don't see that happening. And long 22 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: before President putin Russia was very strong on the fact 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: that I believe that's the reason the war started. Because 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: Biden went out and said that they could join NATO, 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: and he shouldn't have said that. 26 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: As soon as he. 27 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 3: Said that, I said, you know what, You're gonna. 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: Have a war now. 29 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: And I was right about that. This is a war 30 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: that would have never happened if I were president. 31 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's something that he's been very consistent on 32 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: all along. Clay Trump has been talking about how and 33 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: it is fascinating. They said that he was the Russia stooge, right, 34 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: they said that he was the guy who would do 35 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: Putin's bidding. Meanwhile, nothing really happens with Putin going into 36 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Ukraine during Trump's time. And beyond that, Trump actually there 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: were expulsions of Russian diplomats at levels we hadn't seen 38 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: since the Cold War. 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: There was the. 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: Fighting in Syria that led to two hundred Russian paramilitaries. 41 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: Think there were a Wagner group guys who got blown 42 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: up by US forces while Trump's commander achieved. All those 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: things going on, and now we're at a point where 44 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: he's reminding us of something, which is it was always 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: a red line for Russia to have Ukraine be in NATO. 46 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: And that's understandable from Russia's perspective, right, that, and that 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be where things were ever going to head. 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: If he manages to bring about a piece deal, really 49 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: anytime in the next you know, six months or so, 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be, it's gonna won. I 51 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: just want to see the killing stop over there. 52 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: That would be good. 53 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: I'd like to see as a human being, I want 54 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: to see an end to the carnage that has been 55 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: occurring in eastern Ukraine. But beyond that, it just goes 56 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: to a level of dare I say winning for Trump? 57 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how Democrats spin that, Clay. There's horrible carnage, 58 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of casualties war that started on Biden's watch, 59 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: and then Trump comes into office and the war stops that. 60 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: What do they say. I know it hasn't happened yet, 61 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: and we're all praying that it does happen for a 62 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: lot of reasons, But what do they even say in 63 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: that situation? 64 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: They're wrong? 65 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 4: I mean, and I think this ties in they're wrong 66 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 4: on everything. 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: This is really where I think, if you're. 68 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: Just a rational person, buck, and I know a ton 69 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: of you out there listening to us right now, maybe 70 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: you're even a little bit in disbelief that you listen 71 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 4: to us every day, right Like, I know there are 72 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 4: a ton of you out there that you have come along. 73 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: You thought in twenty sixteen, you thought Trump was a neanderthal, 74 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 4: you bought into the media coverage twenty. 75 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: Twenty, COVID's going on. 76 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: You might have thought the world was coming undone, and 77 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: you just felt like you had lost grip on reality. 78 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: By twenty two twenty four, A lot of. 79 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: People are just looking around, And I mean this honestly, 80 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: What is an argument that democrats make right now where 81 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: you're like, you know what? 82 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: They have some good points there. 83 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 4: I think there may be an argument that I could 84 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 4: buy into, because the reality is, most people, when you 85 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: actually ask them for their political philosophy, have all sorts 86 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 4: of different opinions. 87 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: Historically, some of. 88 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: Them you might be more inclined to a Democrat side, 89 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: Some of them you might be more inclined to a 90 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: Republican side. What is and I'm just being honest here, 91 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 4: what is a point of debate out there right now 92 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: where you sit down and I try to be hyper 93 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: rational and logical on all this stuff, buck, I can't 94 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: think of anything where I look at it right now, 95 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: and I say, you know what the Democrats have, in 96 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 4: my opinion, the better side of this argument right now? 97 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: Can you even think of one. 98 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 4: Like where you would look at it and say, and again, 99 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: take the politics out of it, and don't just be 100 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: a died in the world one party or the other person. 101 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: I legitimately can't think of anything in the post Biden 102 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 4: era other than leaving, for instance, some Trump policies in 103 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 4: place and not touching them. 104 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: What did Biden do? Well? 105 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 4: What argument right now do Democrats have where you sit 106 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: back and you say, you know what, I think they 107 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 4: may be right on that. 108 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: I can't even think of one. 109 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: And I think that's historically really rare, Buck, because what 110 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 4: it represents to me is the Democrats have so given 111 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 4: over their party to the far left wing that there 112 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: are no centrist ish arguments that they're even embracing. Remember triangulation, 113 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 4: whether you bought into it or not with Bill Clinton. 114 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: After he got his ass kicked in nineteen ninety four, 115 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 4: Clinton went to Dick Morris, who it turns out, was 116 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 4: getting his toes sucked by prostitutes, which is. 117 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: A whole other story we're aware of, Clay. 118 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: It's Valentine's Dave, I want to be romantic, and and 119 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: Dick Morris unfortunately named Dick Morris. His idea was triangulation. 120 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 4: We're not going to adopt Republican policy perspectives, but we're 121 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: going to in some way latch onto them and try 122 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 4: to come up with a middle of the road concept 123 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 4: that is appealing enough to centrist voters. And Clinton won 124 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 4: reelection in nineteen ninety six based on it. Who's the 125 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 4: triangulator in the Democrat Party right now? Who's the rational 126 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: person other than John Fetterman. I can't even point to 127 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 4: you right now. Maybe that Congressman Seth Moulton, who I 128 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: mentioned earlier, who said something crazy, Hey, I got two daughters. 129 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 4: I don't want him competing against dudes, and like the 130 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 4: whole world came undone against him. It's not even that 131 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: they are losing to Trump right now, it's that they 132 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: don't even have good arguments that are appealing in any 133 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 4: way to rational people. Now, they still have their base 134 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 4: because a lot of people and they're slowly peeling away. 135 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are just like, Hey, 136 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: I was a Democrat in nineteen eighty four, so I'm 137 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: still going to be a Democrat. In twenty twenty four, 138 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 4: But do they actually represent what you believe? I bet 139 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: a lot of you out there if you sit down 140 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: with your grandmas and grandpas who may be lifelong Democrat voters, 141 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: or you sit down with your daughters who may be 142 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: Democrat voters, like I actually think that we are in 143 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: a place now where Democrats are on the wrong side 144 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: of everything, and I don't know how they get back 145 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 4: to even being in a position buck where you or 146 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 4: I might look at it and say, you know what, 147 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 4: I don't agree with it, but that's at least an argument, 148 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: that's a colorable argument. They don't even have those right now. 149 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: I can't even tell you one that. I'm like, you 150 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: know what, that's not a bad argument. I kind of 151 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 4: agree on that. 152 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't even know what the Democrats think they stand 153 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: for right now, other than. 154 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 4: Well, that certainly is a huge part of this too 155 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: good point, right they because I think that I know 156 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 4: what they did stand for, or what they were at 157 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 4: least publicly saying until this election. 158 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: But they must recognize at some level they're like deer 159 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: in the headlights. They don't know where to go, because 160 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: what do they do if they don't? If they abandon 161 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: some of the positions of the past. 162 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 2: Of the recent. 163 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: When I said the past, I mean abandoned positions they 164 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: had until election day. They're gonna infuriate their base, but 165 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: they also can't continue on the way that they are 166 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: right now, it seems. I mean, look, I know midterms, 167 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: everything can change, and I'm very cautious about the right 168 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: wing triumphalism that is creeping up in a lot of 169 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: our minds. But I do think that on these issues, 170 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: I mean, there is something too. When you've built your 171 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: entire political party around stop Trump and you didn't stop him, 172 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: and he's doing great stuff that a majority of the 173 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: country believes in, what do you do? Then you know 174 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: they went so all in on making this not happen 175 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: that I think it's still sinking in at some level 176 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: that Trump was able to beat the four indictments, the 177 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: civil suits, the all of the stuff, the two assassination attempts, 178 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: all these things that were thrown in his way, and 179 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: now he's president. I just think they're in shell shock. 180 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 2: I really do. 181 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: And other Democrats, I should say Democrats are agreeing with that. 182 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: You know, It's one thing when you hear Clay and 183 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: I we both agree. Chances are were probably right if 184 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: we both agree on something, right, Okay, But when we 185 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: agree on something about the Democrats and James Carville and 186 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: the Pod Save America bros. And even Tuba admits they 187 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: got a man problem. Tuban's got other problems, but they 188 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: got a man problem in the Democrat Party. I think 189 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: that that's that indicates that this is real and that 190 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: they're in crisis. So the good news is that, you know, 191 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm happy we aren't sitting here saying, oh my gosh, 192 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: why isn't Trump taking advantage? 193 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: Why aren't we? No, they are. This is great. I 194 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: mean they're taking. 195 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: Full advantage of Democrat disarray and getting things done as 196 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: fast as they can. 197 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: I think also, you hit on it. 198 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: They are flabby, lazy, and they've been used to having 199 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 4: the backing of the legacy media for so long. Remember 200 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 4: we talked about this when Ron DeSantis I thought of 201 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 4: viscerated Gavin Newsom in the Hannity debate that they did. 202 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: It wasn't just that DeSantis was sharp, It's that he 203 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 4: has to be sharp because the media will rip him 204 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: to shreds if he's a little bit wrong. And Gavin 205 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 4: Newsom has gotten so used to alongside of other Democrats 206 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 4: being protected that it actually means that they're not as 207 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: good at debaters as they could be. They've gotten lazy, 208 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 4: and their argument is just reflexively, whatever Trump is in 209 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 4: favor of, they're against. Trump is now in favor of 210 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 4: a lot of things that are eighty twenty issues, that 211 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 4: are seventy five twenty five issues. I mean, just think 212 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 4: about how crazy it is that the Democrat position is 213 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 4: Elon Musk is too aggressively looking for waste and fraud 214 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 4: in the federal government. Who who opposes finding waste and 215 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 4: fraud spent by our tax dollars? That's a ninety five 216 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: to five issue. I mean, the only people who should 217 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 4: oppose it are the people who are engaging in waste 218 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 4: and fraud and benefiting from it. And I think a 219 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: lot of people their eyebrows go up and they say, 220 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: wait a minute, why is Chuck Schumer standing outside of 221 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 4: USAID when all Elon Musk is doing is looking at 222 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 4: how we spend our money and asking if it's being 223 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: spent efficiently. That isn't even a part as an issue. 224 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 4: And remember it's important to keep hammering. Elon Musk voted 225 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: for Biden in twenty twenty and didn't endorse Trump until 226 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: July of twenty twenty four. So the idea that you're 227 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 4: going to paint Elon Musk, the guy who created electric vehicles, 228 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 4: as some sort of crazy man who's like out there 229 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 4: and doesn't believe in uh in in in you know, 230 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 4: American ingenuity, or doesn't believe in American excellence, or or 231 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: somehow a threat to American democracy. 232 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: It just doesn't. That doesn't. 233 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 4: And in the words of the old school Southerner, that dog, 234 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: that dog ain't hunting. 235 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: The dog doesn't hunt. I think I got that phrase right. 236 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: Eventually, I'm still a little disappointed that no matter how 237 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: many drinks Clay has he does, his accent does not 238 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: get more country like. It doesn't start to emerge. Really, 239 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, you can get Clay three scotches in. He 240 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: still sounds like Clay. It's not like all of a 241 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: sudden he you know, sounds like he's got a banjo. 242 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: It's a little bit a. 243 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 4: Little young sad as the New Yorker and means a 244 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 4: little sad. I will say this also is what protects me. 245 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 4: I don't sound any different. Not only accent, you get 246 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: like eight drinks in me. I sound the exact men 247 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 4: might might slur a little bit more, but the same 248 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 4: things that I'll say on the radio, I'll say on 249 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 4: the bar. Like nobody's getting a video of me saying 250 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 4: crazy things and they're being like, hey, can you believe 251 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 4: what Clay SAIDs Like, actually, yeah, I listened to different 252 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: three hours every day. Sounds exact same when he's sitting 253 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: at a bar or if he's talking live on the radio. 254 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: For better or worse. By the way, this is Clay 255 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: super This is Clay superpower. He says the same thing 256 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: sober and drunk. There you go. Good to know it is. 257 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: It is a super outpower. 258 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: Do you think Let's talk about firearms for a minute 259 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: here to all my two A people out there, you 260 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: gotta know about Bear Creek Arsenal. 261 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: The best prices. 262 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna see anywhere on firearms of this quality products 263 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: made available to you online directly. You don't go through 264 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: some middleman. 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That's Bear Creek Arsenal 274 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: dot com slash buck and take ten percent off your 275 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: order with my first name Buck as your coop on Code. 276 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 5: Stories are freedom stories of America, inspirational stories that you 277 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 5: unite us all each day. Spend time with Clay and 278 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 5: find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 279 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 5: get your podcasts. 280 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. 281 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: A couple of things. 282 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: One I think I said CNN didn't use my name 283 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 4: in their discussion. Want to correct that because I listened 284 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 4: to it during the end of the last commercial break 285 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: they did, so credits to them. I think Buck, I'm 286 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 4: unbanned now on CNN. I think that's fair, but I 287 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 4: want to correct that because I think I said in 288 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 4: the first hour that it wasn't we played some clips. 289 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 4: I wasn't able to listen to it beforehand, so I 290 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 4: want to correct that. 291 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 5: Two. 292 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: I don't think we've said this on the air yet, 293 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: have we buck Because I'm about to share this video. 294 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 4: Trump has put his mugshot on the wall as one 295 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 4: of the you know where a lot of the paintings are, 296 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: ordinarily where a lot of historic relics are. Otherwise, it's 297 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 4: a cover shot of the New York Post mug shot, 298 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: and it is one of the last things you see 299 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: before you walk into the Oval office. I do think 300 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 4: this is kind of remarkable. You know, when we interviewed 301 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: Trump at mar A Lago the last time I think 302 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 4: we said this on the air, Trump brought t shirts out. 303 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 4: I have one of his mug shot that he autographed 304 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: for us. I have I'm getting in the process of 305 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: getting this frame to put up in my home office. 306 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: But I do think this is important to point out here. 307 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: Democrats thought that mug shot that he had to get 308 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 4: taken in Atlanta was going to be the death nail 309 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 4: to his presidential and political career. Now it's one of 310 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 4: the things that you see when you walk into the 311 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 4: Oval Office. Can you remember a bigger miscalculation politically than this. 312 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 4: And for Trump to even have the chawmanship angle, to 313 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: have that up as you walk in is just remarkable. 314 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: It's incredible, and I think it just goes to the 315 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: sense of storytelling and narrative. And yes, producer Allig just 316 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: sent us this sense of humor as well. Yes, he's 317 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: just leaning it, He's leaning into the whole thing. This 318 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: is amazing, Clay. If this was a TV show, people 319 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: would think it was too unrealistic. It's the Trump Show, 320 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, there was the Truman Show. If the Trump 321 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: Show is a TV show, people would say, there's no 322 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: way that would ever happen. And it's happening. And I 323 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: also think that politics is now the most engaging and 324 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: entertaining viewer sport in existence. I mean, I just I 325 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: don't think there's anything else like this. I think this 326 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: is one of the reasons that some of these platforms 327 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: like Netflix have such a tough time putting out new shows. 328 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: Reality is pretty amazing lately. 329 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 4: No doubt, and we certainly appreciate you guys, I will 330 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 4: say for this show just taking a little bit behind 331 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 4: the curtain. The number of big advertisers that are suddenly 332 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 4: reaching out we can do this for four years. 333 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: I've said this before. 334 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 4: We've never had a beer, we've never had a restaurant, 335 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 4: we've never had a car company. Now we are loaded 336 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 4: with advertisers and we're killing it. You guys are doing 337 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 4: a fabulous job supporting them. We love all of you. 338 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 4: But suddenly every big brand in America is reaching out. 339 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 4: This is happening at Fox News too, and they're like, hey, 340 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 4: we need to be on the shows that people are 341 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 4: actually listening to, and that's this show, that's Fox News. 342 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 4: That is America has suddenly woken up. And the collapse 343 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 4: of MSNBC and the CNNs of the world is significant, 344 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 4: you know. And one of the great advertisers that we have, 345 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: which doing tremendous work, is the International Fellowship of Christians 346 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 4: and Jews. 347 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: You guys know, I went over to Israel. It was 348 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: a life changing trip. 349 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 4: In fact, if the ceasefire can hold, I want to 350 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 4: take my boys over because I think it would be 351 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 4: life changing for them as well to be able to 352 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 4: see the Holy Land. But what they do to take 353 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: care of so many people, so many Christians and Jews 354 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 4: out there providing hope, inspiration, protection in a time of incredible. 355 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: Tumult in Israel is absolutely incredible. Whether it's providing brand 356 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 4: new bulletproof vehicles, whether it's giving meals to people who 357 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 4: are struggling, whether it's providing places for people to stay 358 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 4: safely inside of bomb shelters. Trust me, go to support 359 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 4: IFCJ dot org and just look at the work they're 360 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 4: doing that support IFCJ dot org eight hundred eight eight 361 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 4: eight four eight eight IFCJ, that's support IFCJ dot org. 362 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Branda de Vine joins us. 363 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: Now a friend, Miranda. Fantastic columns for the New York 364 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Posts and on the laptop from Hell and Miranda before 365 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: we dive into doze, Trump saving the country, all that 366 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: good stuff. I hear you. You just got a ride 367 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: on Trump Force one. 368 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: How was it? 369 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 6: I did? It was absolutely fantastic, the ride of a 370 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 6: lifetime and enormous plane. And in fact I got onto 371 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 6: it with the staff on the mini the baby backstairs 372 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 6: which Joe Biden used to always take. And funnily enough, 373 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 6: those little stairs take you into the luggage hold. You 374 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 6: have to climb another set of stairs to get to 375 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 6: the upstairs the back of the plane and then you 376 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 6: have to walk all the way up the front to 377 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 6: get to the President's suite, which of course President Trump 378 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 6: gets to by walking up the big boys stairs with 379 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 6: the red carpet on them up the front. So what 380 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 6: a bizarre situation that we lived through. You know, I 381 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 6: keep pinching myself trying to remember how crazy the last 382 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 6: four years were and how wonderful it is to see 383 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 6: everything put to rights now with Trump. 384 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: Miranda, we're gonna get to a bunch with you. 385 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 4: But that's awesome, and I'm glad that the Trump team 386 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: is treating you with the respected esteem that you deserve, because, 387 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: as I've said for some time, you should get all 388 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: the Pulitzers that they actually gave to all those other 389 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 4: organizations for all the legitimate lies surrounding Russia. And by 390 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 4: the way, the Trump lawsuit has made it through multiple 391 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 4: different attempts to dismiss, and the Pulitzer Prize board is 392 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 4: maybe gonna have to end up settling with Trump before 393 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 4: all is said and done. But I know this, I'm 394 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 4: betting you have seen it. Trump now has the front 395 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 4: page of the New York Post mugshot of himself from Atlanta, Georgia, 396 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: right outside of the Oval Office. 397 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: Now, I love the New York Post. 398 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: You guys do fabulous work, but it feels like such 399 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: a major vibe shift that you guys have gone from 400 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 4: no one will acknowledge your accurate reporting to the President 401 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: of the United States actually has the Post front page 402 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 4: as one of the final things that you will see 403 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 4: before you walk into the Oval Office. 404 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: How does that feel? 405 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 6: It's fantastic. There's an entire corridor which is basically devoted 406 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 6: to New York Post front pages, and that one, of 407 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 6: course is sent a stage and then on the other 408 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 6: side of the corridor our a whole bunch of framed 409 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 6: Time magazine covers where you know, Donald Trump is sort 410 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 6: of person of the Year, et cetera, should be Man 411 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 6: of the year. And so it's really like a I guess, 412 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 6: a vindication for Trump because you walk through that, you 413 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 6: get to the Press Secretary's office, and so that's the 414 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 6: media sort of baptism of fire that he endured throughout 415 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 6: his campaign and he came out victorious. 416 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: Miranda, what do you think happens now? And going forward? 417 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: For the anti Trump media, it seems like they're out 418 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: of tricks. They know the old old stuff, doesn't work. 419 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: They know that they have probably reached the absolute low 420 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: point of their credibility. 421 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: I think credibility. 422 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: I think places like The New York Times CNNA have 423 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: never existed at a lower credibility place than they are 424 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: right now. And so do they just try to ride 425 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: this out and go back to being quote journalists objective 426 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: journalists for a while? I mean, how do these other 427 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: networks that really went all in on destroying Trump now 428 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: show up and cover this White House knowing that the 429 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: public isn't on board for a lot of the nonsense, 430 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: and they've they've just lost a lot of what they 431 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: once had. 432 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 6: Look just like the Democratic Party. I don't really see 433 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 6: any signs of remorse or atonement or any changes going on. 434 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 6: You know, The New York Times is still lying. Just 435 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 6: this week they had some newsletter in which they said that, 436 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 6: you know, one of the critiques of Chelsey Gabbert was 437 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 6: that she insisted on claiming that the fifty one former 438 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 6: intelligence officials had tried to help Biden's campaign by lying 439 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 6: about the Hunter Biden laptop, saying it was Russian disinformation. 440 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 6: They said, without evidence. I mean, you don't need there's 441 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 6: so much evidence, including an email from Mike Morell, the 442 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 6: former CIA Acting director who actually wrote that letter after 443 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 6: being told by senior campaign advisor for Biden, Anthony Blincoln, 444 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 6: to do it. A letter in which an email to 445 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 6: John Brennan in which he says, we're doing this to 446 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 6: give Biden a talking point in the debate against Donald Trump, 447 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 6: because we want to help the campaign. Like you know, 448 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 6: the evidence does not get any better, and yet the 449 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 6: New York Times are still in denial, so I don't 450 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 6: see them reforming. I am told though, by Carolyn Levitt, 451 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 6: who is Donald Trump's brilliant, twenty seven year old, youngest 452 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 6: in history press secretary, that she is getting behind the 453 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 6: scenes gratitude from the press pool who have been just 454 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 6: kept in the dark for four years. Correne Jean Pierre, 455 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 6: Carolyn Levitt's predecessor, was vismal at her job and so arrogant, 456 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 6: thought she was doing a great job, brought in a 457 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 6: huge binder of information, and still couldn't give any answers 458 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 6: to questions. So I think the working journalists at least 459 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 6: are grudgingly grateful that they're getting there, getting answers and 460 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 6: that they have something to write. But it doesn't seem 461 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 6: to be filtering through to their content, to their editors 462 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 6: who you know, and you look at the likes of 463 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 6: MSNBC Rachel Maddow. Again they lie. You know, she lied 464 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 6: the other day that Donald Trump. The quid pro quo 465 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 6: for Elon Musk was that Donald Trump had given him 466 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 6: a contract to the State Department to buy a bunch 467 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 6: of Tesla's. That contract was done in the Biden administration. 468 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 6: Another lie, but it doesn't seem to stop them. They 469 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 6: tell live and I think they have a shrinking but 470 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 6: still kind of crazy fringe audience that hangs on their 471 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 6: every word because they want to believe it. They don't 472 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 6: want to admit that they were wrong about Donald Trump 473 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 6: and that Trump and his band of Avengers are setting 474 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 6: the country right again. 475 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 4: I find myself and I bet you do sometimes too, Miranda. 476 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: I just sometimes smile because I feel like we were 477 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 4: in the wilderness for so long and we were right. 478 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 4: I know, We've been having you on this show for 479 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 4: four years and you were right about everything. And November 480 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 4: fifth felt to me like a validict, validation in many 481 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 4: ways of hey, you're not crazy, and the country starting 482 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 4: to see it, and then to build on what Buck said, Miranda, 483 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 4: I mean, Trump now. 484 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: Fifty three percent approval in the. 485 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 4: In the CBS poll Sunday, sixty percent for men sixty 486 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: I just think these numbers are going to continue to grow. 487 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 4: Because we were having this conversation earlier, Miranda. What arguments 488 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 4: do the Democrats make where rational people sit and say, hey, 489 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 4: you know what. 490 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: They may have a case here. 491 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 4: Because that used to be the case in the eighties, nineties, 492 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: two thousands. It wasn't uncommon for you to sit back 493 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 4: and say, hey, you know, I might agree with Republicans 494 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 4: on six of these Democrats on four. 495 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 2: It was a very much more rational America. 496 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 4: I can't tell you anything that I think Democrats have 497 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 4: the better side of an argument on. And now they're 498 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 4: opposed to fraud and waste in government, and they're opposed 499 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 4: to boys boys being kept out of women's sports. 500 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: I mean, like, what is going on here? 501 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 6: Yeah? So right? And also the optics are so dreadful. 502 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 6: They just seem old and demented. You see, you know, 503 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 6: they're out doing these rallies, the so called rallies, and 504 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 6: it's just a bunch of people waving their canes and 505 00:26:54,160 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 6: singing nineteen thirties Union songs very badly cattlewalling mostly women. 506 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 6: I mean, there's no red blooded men. 507 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 4: I think you did you hear what I said about that, 508 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 4: that there are no masculine. 509 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 6: Men, no masculine You're absolutely right and you see it. 510 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 6: It's I mean, I think even James Carvill said the 511 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 6: Democratic Party has been taken over by these screechy women 512 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 6: with blue hair, and no one is attracted to that. 513 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 6: No one wants to be part of that team. And 514 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 6: you know, RFK Jr. After his swearing in yesterday, just 515 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 6: made the most magnificent speech in the Oval Office in 516 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 6: which he said, you know this is coming from a 517 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 6: Democrat Kennedy Royalty, saying first of all that Donald Trump 518 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 6: he felt was his gift from God to allow him 519 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 6: to do what he wants, which is securing childhood illnesses. 520 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 6: But also he said to Donald Trump that you are 521 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 6: a pivotal figure in history, and you are the sort 522 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 6: of man on the white horse that we have been 523 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 6: waiting for to rescue us. That someone who is you know, 524 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 6: strong enough and I guess ballsy enough to confront the 525 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 6: Orthodoxes and to rewind those in power who have abused 526 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 6: it for so long. You know, Donald Trump is a 527 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 6: flawed man. But he is a pivotal man in history. 528 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 6: Whatever makes is his makeup, it's extremely unusual. It is unique. 529 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 6: I've never seen a leader like him. But he is 530 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 6: a born leader, and people listen to him. He has 531 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 6: a very good gut feeling. He told me he had 532 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 6: a nose for usaid being corrupt. He can tell crooked 533 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 6: people crookedness. So I just think we're extremely lucky that 534 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 6: he can. And you know, he doesn't seem to be 535 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 6: like it's a burden for him. He's operating at this 536 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 6: very high level, really fast, as if he knows he 537 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 6: doesn't have a lot of time to get things done. 538 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 6: But this time, unlike his last presidency, he's been able 539 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 6: to surround himself with real geniuss he calls, and geniuses. 540 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 6: He puts a lot of stock in high IQ, he says, 541 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 6: which is so refreshing. People have been tippy tying around 542 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 6: that for a long time. But I mean, intelligence makes 543 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 6: the world go around, and he's got reams of it 544 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 6: in the Oval office and in his administration. 545 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: Speaking of Miranda Devine, New York Post columnist, and Miranda, 546 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: I also find it fascinating that it seems to me 547 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: every step that Trump has been taking so far. You know, 548 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: there might be some more contentious partisan stuff down down 549 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: the line. Right now, it seems more long lines of 550 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: common sense stuff, you know, getting rid of trend arragua 551 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: illegal aliens and sending them back to their country. And 552 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: these are people who are preying on Americans. There are 553 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: danger to you, to the communities that they are illegally 554 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 1: into the first place. That's just common sense, right, cutting 555 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: government spending, the stuff that Elon is doing and what 556 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: he is finding. And now you know DOJ's website, we 557 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: didn't an announce this, Clay DOJ's website is now up 558 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: for people to see all of It's very transparent. 559 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: This is the this is the spending. 560 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: And Democrats earned the position of arguing what in favor 561 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: of you know, continued medicare payments to scammers in the 562 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: former Soviet Union or something. It just seems like they're 563 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: going to keep digging the hole deeper. 564 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 6: Yes, And I think it's the transparency that Elon Musk 565 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 6: talked about in the Oval office the other day. This 566 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 6: president is the most transparent in our history. And that 567 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 6: started day one. I was in the Capital One Arena 568 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 6: in Washington, d C. On inauguration day where the inauguration 569 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 6: had been moved to and Donald Trump arrived after his 570 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 6: swearing in capital and he brought with him a whole 571 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 6: pile of executive orders to sign in public in front 572 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 6: of everybody. That was the first sign that this was different. 573 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 6: It wasn't secret little you know things happening back in 574 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 6: the Oval Office in nine to five. This is a 575 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 6: guy who burns the midnight oil till you know, well 576 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 6: close to midnight, and who is doing everything in public. 577 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 6: How many press conferences has he had? How many times 578 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 6: has he invited the media into the Oval Office or 579 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 6: onto Air Force One or to Mary Lago. This is 580 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 6: a guy who doesn't have anything to hide, and he 581 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 6: wants to bring the American people along on this adventure, 582 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 6: this adventure to reclaim America, to make America back to 583 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 6: what it was. And you know, the American people, they 584 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 6: chose Donald Trump with eyes wide open and overwhelmingly in 585 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 6: every possible metric, and they like what they see. And 586 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 6: you can see that in those approval ratings you just said. 587 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 6: And I think as the scales fall from people's eyes 588 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 6: as they realize that they've been propagandized by the dishonest media, narratives, 589 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 6: the resistance media. I think that will only grow. Look, 590 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 6: I also think, no caution, they're going to make mistakes. 591 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 6: The Democrats are going to get back on their heels. 592 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 6: You know, the distance media is going to find narratives. 593 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 6: They're always poking and plodding and looking for them. They 594 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 6: will find some that stick. But at the moment it's 595 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 6: just He's unstoppable. 596 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 4: Miranda, you are from Australia, as people might be well 597 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 4: able to tell you with your accent here. How much 598 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: I know jdie Vance is speaking in Munich right now, 599 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 4: But I was in Australia last year and the woke 600 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 4: virus has taken over in Australia. It certainly has taken 601 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 4: over much of England, English speaking and Western civilization countries 602 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 4: just quickly on the way out. How much do you 603 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: think Trump's impact in America can also be beneficial for 604 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 4: Western civilization democracies in pushing back against the anti Western chaos. 605 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 6: I think enormously, because just like in America, the average person, 606 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 6: the average Australian, average European I think, have common sense 607 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 6: and don't like what's happening to them, but are powerless 608 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 6: to do anything about it. Unfortunately, those countries don't have 609 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 6: America's constitution to protect them their First Amendment, Second Amendment, 610 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 6: and so on. But they are seeing the model of 611 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 6: Donald Trump and what is possible. 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