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Speaker 1: to Blow your mind production of My Heart Radio. Hey,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamp and

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Speaker 1: I'm Joe McCormick and Robert I'm so excited today. I'm

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Speaker 1: our implausible genre crossover films. One of my favorite examples

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Speaker 1: Of course that would be the supernatural wrestling film. Well,

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Speaker 1: today we're finally doing a supernatural biker film, a niche

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Speaker 1: at the at the manor, and uh, every and he

422
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: comes back and he like threatens or something. He says

423
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: like he's like, if you don't pay me money, I'm

424
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: gonna let everybody know that you used to be stage

425
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: performer and that you weren't always so so civilized. All right, Well, yeah,

426
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: the clip I looked at it looked fun. It looks

427
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: like a fun performance worthy of of an actor who

428
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: certainly had a had a very dramatic voice when he

429
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: wanted to. Though in this movie. I mean, he's perfect

430
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: for the role. I love him in this, but he's

431
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: he does he's not He's not playing it in a

432
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: serious way. This entire performance is one incredibly extended smirk. Well,

433
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's one sequence where he is afraid

434
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: and frightened and seems to oh that's true, yeah, but

435
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: then he gets over that really quickly. Um. Now, he

436
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: was also on east Enders, which I think a lot

437
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: of British actors work. But he was also in such

438
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: genre pictures as sixty eight, which Finder General, which came

439
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: up a second ago, and then also that one was

440
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: one that starred Vincent Price, and I think I've alluded

441
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: to Vincent Price's uh facial hair in that before um

442
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: uh he caused the Gandalf from the Soviet Lord of

443
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: the Rings looked like which Finder General exactly. Yeah. But

444
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: also Nicky Hinson was in seventy four's Old Dracula, starring

445
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: David Niven as Old Dracula. I have not seen it,

446
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: but it sounds sounds interesting. What's the premise there wasn't

447
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: Dracula already old? I think? But now he's even older.

448
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: I don't know, but clearly I think you're running out

449
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: of Dracula ideas when you're just when you bust out

450
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: a whole Dracula. I don't know. Maybe it's great, and

451
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: I just I'm not giving it a chance. It's like

452
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: that Key and Peel skit with the pitch meeting for

453
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: Gremlins too. They're just coming up with different ideas for Dracula.

454
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: What about electricity Dracula? How about old Dracula, Old Dracula.

455
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: It's in the movie Vegetable Dracula. Yeah. But but Nicky Hinson, Uh,

456
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: he's good in this uh like you say, it's it's

457
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: it's largely one note except for the one scene. But

458
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: he's very charismatic. Um, he's dressed in leather the whole time.

459
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: He has this kind of like a big chest, narrow

460
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: waste thing going on. So he has this, uh, this

461
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: youthful vigor to him that really works in the role.

462
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: He has a great Nigel Toughnell mullet. Yes, yes, there's

463
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: a lot of great early seventies hair in this picture.

464
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: Longside burns everything, alright. So he plays Tom Latham. But

465
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: his character's mother is also an important character. This is

466
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: Miss Latham, played by Beryl Reid, who lived nineteen nineteen

467
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: through nineteen. An acclaimed British stage actor, she won a

468
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven Tony Award for Best Actress in uh

469
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: in the play The Killing of Sister George. She was

470
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: also in the film adaptation of that play, and other

471
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: credits include the original Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy TV series

472
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: or perhaps limited mini series that starred Alec Guinness, and

473
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: she was also in the nineteen eighty three Graham Chapman

474
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: pirate film Yellow Beard. Now, before we started recording today,

475
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: we were talking about a song, a folk song that

476
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 1: I really love. Is one of my favorites called nineteen

477
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: fifty two vincent black Lightning by the by the British

478
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: singer songwriter Richard Thompson. Um it's a wonderful song, but

479
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: it is a song about a a redheaded girl who

480
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: falls in love with a bad motorcycle boy and then

481
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: when he dies from a shotgun blast to the chest,

482
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: he gives her his motorcycle to ride, his nineteen fifty

483
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: two vincent black Lightning, And immediately I thought of this

484
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: movie because this is a movie about a redheaded girl

485
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: who's in love with a bad motorcycle boy who dies. Yes,

486
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: the character is Abby Holman and she's played by the

487
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: actor Mary Larkin. This was is was an Irish actor.

488
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: H did a fair amount of film and TV work.

489
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: Nothing that really stands out to me personally in her filmography,

490
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: but I think British TV viewers may have some notes

491
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: for us on this. But she has a very nice

492
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: film presence, uh in this motion picture. I'll also say,

493
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: I want to point this out. Her name is Abby

494
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: and you frequently get reminded of this because she has

495
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: a leather jacket. She's in the gang, and she has

496
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: her name on it. And I love a movie that

497
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: has name tags. It's it was. It was a lot

498
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: easier to keep track of everybody in this film. I

499
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: wish more pictures had name tax like this. What's that

500
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: scene where for most of the movie you don't hear

501
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: most of the names of the characters the biker gang,

502
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: But then there's one scene where undead Tom is just

503
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: looking at all of them, one in a row and

504
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: saying their names, and the sequence is hilarious. It's something

505
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: he says something like gash Hatchet, Bertram Yep, chopped Meat

506
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: is another uh huh, yep. I think chop Meat is

507
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: the the folk singer of the group that I'm not mistaken.

508
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I mean I don't think the actor was

509
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: actually a folk singer. But there's a scene later on

510
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: where we get a folk song, and I think chop Meat,

511
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: out of his leather jacket is the one that's supposed

512
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: to be playing that song. Could be wrong. It's such

513
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: a gentle tune, you wouldn't think that it that it

514
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: comes from the mind of a crazed motorcycle killer. Well,

515
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: that's a scene where they're mostly dressed like hippies, as

516
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 1: if the film is trying to say all of us

517
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: have within us, both the hippie and the biker, both

518
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: the both the peace loving hippie and the necromantic, uh

519
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: druid biker Wraith. These are both aspects of the same

520
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: human soul, the peaceful artist whose very voice is love,

521
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: and then the the motorcycle nightmare who will who will

522
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: run you down on the motorway? Yes, Now, if Abbie

523
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: is the good girl in this the bad girl is

524
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: Jane played by Anne Um and Michelle I believe her

525
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: name was born n Other credits include House of Ripped

526
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: Accord from seventy four, Haunted from seventy seven, and interestingly enough, uh,

527
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: this actor was once married to a professional British motorcycle

528
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: racer by the name of Richard may So uh just

529
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: uh Normally not really worth mentioning what actors spouses did,

530
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: but in this case I found that interesting. She's also

531
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: fantastic in this because much like Nicki Hinson, she has

532
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: a smirk that mocks life itself. Yeah, she is, like said,

533
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: she's the bad girl on this. She does not really

534
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: questioned the whole um uh necromancy scheme that becomes central

535
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: to the plot. She embraces it early on. Now we're

536
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: not going to go through all the actors playing all

537
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: the bikers, you know, um they're like chop meat and

538
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: horse Cross and so forth. But Bertram was played by

539
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: this actor by the name of Roy holder Born and

540
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: I believe still still alive. Another actor with solid British

541
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: TV and film credits, including two thousand ones, War Horse,

542
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: Ridley Scott's Robin Hood from eleven and various big TV

543
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 1: series like east Enders, Coronation Street, Pride and Prejudice, sens Insensibility, etcetera.

544
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: He played the character Kreelper, a gun runner who worked

545
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: for a mercenary who worked for another villain named Morgus

546
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: on four episodes of Doctor Who in the nineteen eighties,

547
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: and he plays Enoch in the star studded nineteen seventy

548
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: seven Jesus of Nazareth mini series. I don't think I've

549
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: seen this, but I long remember seeing it on video

550
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: shelves as a kid. It's the one like the kind

551
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: of a big eyed Jesus on the front. You know,

552
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I know which one this is, right,

553
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: It's it's worth looking up just to see who all

554
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: was in it. It was again a star studied a project,

555
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: a huge Jesus movie. Okay, all right, Uh we have

556
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: a we have a police inspector in this film, representing

557
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: law and order. Hate the law, you know, no respect

558
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah. The chief inspector in this is played

559
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: by Robert Hardy, who lived through seventeen. This is Cornelius

560
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: Fudge himself from the Harry Potter films. Oh, I don't

561
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: remember who that is. Who's Cornelius Fudge. He was the

562
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: head of the Ministry of Magic, like the President of

563
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: the Wizards or something. Yeah, like, but I mean, it's like,

564
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: it's basically like, this is an actor who played authority,

565
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: British authority figure as well, and so in this he

566
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: plays one, and in Harry Potter he played a different one. Yeah.

567
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: He he disapproves of your behavior, whatever it is. Yeah.

568
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: He was also in Angles and Sensibility. He was on

569
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: All Creatures great and small, and he sure played Churchill

570
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: a lot. I saw Churchill popping up a lot of

571
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: his filmography. Yeah. He was also in a seventy two

572
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: demon possession film titled Demons of the Mind. Now, another

573
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: big connection here is that this bizarre, undead biker horror

574
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: movie was the last film of the legendary actor George Sanders. Yes,

575
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: George Sanders playing Shadwell the Butler. Uh, though we suspect

576
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: he's much more than a butler, the warlock butler. Yeah.

577
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: He lived nineteen o six through nineteen seventy two, so he,

578
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: uh you know, died the same year this film rap production. Apparently,

579
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: English actor known for major roles in the forties and

580
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: fifties pictures like All About Eve, Rebecca, The Picture of

581
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: Dorian Gray, and man Hunt. Later audiences might know him

582
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: best for his voice in Walt Disney's The Jungle Book,

583
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: the you know, the old animated Jungle Book. He is

584
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: the voice of shier Khan, the tiger. I think the

585
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: hawking voice, not the singing voice, is there. Yeah, yeah,

586
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: there's there's a there's different different credits on those, but

587
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: the talking voice is definitely Sanders. Uh. He also played

588
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: Mr Freeze in the first two appearances of that character

589
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: in the old Batman series. Perfect. Yeah, there are a

590
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: couple of other notable actors who played that same character. Uh.

591
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: It's a real lightning rod for talent that show. Um.

592
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: Because Vincent Price also popped up on Batman. Oh, I

593
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: forgot about that. Who did he play? Was he the

594
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 1: Riddler or something? No? No, no, that would have been great.

595
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: Now he played Egghead, this character with just a giant Egghead.

596
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: I've forgotten. It's terrible. It's like, it's should we should

597
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: we do a digression here about how bad most of

598
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: the Batman villains are almost all you know what. In fact,

599
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: they're like the Gremlins once again in that Gremlins pitch

600
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: meeting sketch. Um, because they're all like I remember this

601
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: when I was playing one of those Batman video games

602
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: years ago, that allows you to sort of like collect

603
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: a catalog of who all the villains are. And you've

604
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: got the big ones. You all know, the Joker and

605
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: the Riddler and all that. I don't know if the

606
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: Riddler is different enough from the Joker, but anyway, once

607
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: you get into the second tier of Batman villains, it's

608
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: all just like clock Man. He is obsessed with clocks

609
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: and kills people with schemes that resemble clocks. Um, you

610
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: know mad Hatter, who is obsessed with the Mad Hatter

611
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: character in Alice in Wonderland. They're they're all like extremely literal.

612
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: They're all you know, electricity gremlin. Yeah, I mean it is.

613
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: It's like that. It's like electricity criminal, Riddle criminal, clock criminal.

614
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: Because essentially, like Batman is a detective, he solves crimes.

615
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: He needs a criminal to go up against. But you

616
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: have to put these at least these spins on them

617
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: and uh and of course, over time, various creative minds

618
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: have found interesting ways to make those ideas more potent.

619
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: Take Mr Freeze for example, Like Freeze criminal is not

620
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: a very interesting concept, but certainly by the time of

621
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: like the animated Batman series. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, when

622
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: we were kids. You know, they advice. Yeah, they found

623
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: ways to to make this just a tragic and romantic figure,

624
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: you know, just a fascinating character with cool, freezing criminal powers. Oh,

625
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: I want to be clear, I'm not dissing Dr Freeze

626
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: especially or Mr Freeze. Even though he is a doctor.

627
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: He goes by Mr Freeze, even though he has a PhD. Well,

628
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: you know he takes that do no harm thing seriously.

629
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know PhD. I have no idea,

630
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: but he's when he's freezing, he's Mr Freeze right exactly,

631
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: that's his Yeah, off off the clock. So yeah, this

632
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: is this is George saunders last picture, and by all accounts,

633
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: he was not in a good place at this point

634
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: in his life. Uh, probably not performing at his peak.

635
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 1: But he's still a great presence in the film. I

636
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, he's still he still creates some magic on

637
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: the screen. Robbie, I know you always like to talk

638
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: about the mu usic and the music in this movie

639
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: is one of the big selling points. There are some

640
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: great uh folk songs in it. There's some great psychedelic guitar.

641
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: It's all over the place. Yeah, it's a it's a

642
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: it's a little bit funky in places. There's some I

643
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: guess what you got like fuzztone rock notes in it. Um,

644
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's it's a wonderful score. And this is

645
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: definitely a score that's available and has long been available

646
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: in various formats. It is the work of John Cameron

647
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: born British composer, arranger, conductor and musician. He did a

648
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: number of film scores for for various pictures over the years.

649
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: One that stuck out to me, and this may not

650
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: be his crowning achievement. I don't remember what the music

651
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: was like in this, but Frankenstein starring Randy Quait as

652
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: the Monster and Patrick Bergen as the doctor. Uh. This

653
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: one I think debuted on TNT on cable back when

654
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: I as a kid, and I may have mentioned on

655
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: the show before because when this came out and was like, yeah,

656
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: this is this is Frankenstein. This is not the first

657
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: time you've brought this one up. In fact, you've brought

658
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: it up almost to scold me for like making jokes

659
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: about Randy Quaid. Now you can joke about Randy Quaid

660
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: all you want. In terms of his acting, though Randy

661
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: Quaid I have found him quite good in a few

662
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: different pictures. Um, but and this was one of him

663
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: playing playing the monster. But as as for the music, yeah,

664
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: this is this is really good stuff from Cameron. Um uh,

665
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, we'll talk about the folk ballot in a bit. Originally,

666
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: the tracks off of this score, witch Hunt and Living

667
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: Dead were actually released as a single on vinyl, with

668
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: Cameron taking on the moniker a frog. Now there is

669
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: a major frog in this movie. I honestly could not

670
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: understand what the magical significance of the frog was. Maybe

671
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: you can help me understand that. As we talked about

672
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: the plot a little bit more, ye will get it

673
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: as a froggy film. The Psychomania gets froggy. Yeah, but

674
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: before we move forward the first let's have let's have

675
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: just another sample of that music, the score to Psychomania. Yeah,

676
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: it's so good, it's so good. I'm feeling the last

677
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: vestiges of respect for law and humanity fading away. I

678
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: am about to go out and do evil, do exactly

679
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: as I will. Well, let's let's go ahead and uh

680
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: and talk about the film. Let's get into the plot,

681
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: because this one has it's against so many weird elements.

682
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: It's it's really worth dwelling on. Well, so the very

683
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: opening is just divine it. I love the first few

684
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: minutes of this movie. It's once again druids on wheels.

685
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: It's just bikers doing slow most stunts in the grass

686
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: amidst an ancient stone circle while this acid wizard guitar

687
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: music just drips in the background. I love, love, love this.

688
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: Filmmakers out there, if you want to make movies today

689
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: that I will just like gush about incessantly to get

690
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: this vibe, recreate it, make more of this kind of thing. Um.

691
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: I believe that the setting here so they're you know,

692
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: they're riding around doing bike stunts at a stone circle.

693
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: I think it's supposed to be at a place called

694
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: Avebury Hinge, at least according to some not super authoritative

695
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: looking articles I was reading. So I'm not certain about this.

696
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: But if this is supposed to be a very hinge

697
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: that is a Neolithic stone monument site much like Stoneheinge,

698
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: this one's in the southwest of England, and I'm not

699
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: sure if they are actually truly gunning their hogs through

700
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: the real megaliths or if this is a set made

701
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: to look like it. If it is a set, I'm impressed, Like,

702
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: it looks pretty convincing. They may actually have been ripping

703
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: me through a priceless year old ritual site. I can't tell,

704
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: but these scenes are impressed. It sets the tone for

705
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: the picture. Oh yeah, yeah, so slow mobike jumps crossing

706
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: in and out. I imagine they were probably actually going

707
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: at pretty low speed, but then by playing it back

708
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: in slow motion, you can create the impression that at

709
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: full speed they would have been doing something incredibly dangerous. Um. So,

710
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: so this is the biker gang at the heart of

711
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: the movie. They're known as the Living Dead. I adore

712
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: their outfits. They've got these skull helmets and they all

713
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 1: wear black leather motorcycle gear except for Jane, who wears

714
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: red leather and white gloves. And these are just some bad,

715
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: bad English youths whose brains have been defiled by overdoses

716
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: of black leather, carbon monoxide and moral nihilism. They do

717
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: what they want and they care not for man's law. Yeah,

718
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 1: these outfits are incredible. If you if you haven't seen

719
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: clips from this film, look it out because the design

720
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: and the baker helmets just looks great. Again, it looks

721
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: like a skull And then they're wearing most of them

722
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: again are wearing head to toe black leather and it

723
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: says of course living dead on the back. Uh. And

724
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: then they have their name tags on the front or yeah,

725
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: which which is a great thing for criminals to have, right.

726
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: So the first thing we see them doing is just uh,

727
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: dangerously harassing people driving on the on the on the back,

728
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: you know, the country roads. And uh, I think they

729
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: actually kill a guy like that, or at least they

730
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: knock him out, like they scare him until he's in

731
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: an accident and is thrown from his vehicle. So they're

732
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: just out just randomly murdering innocent people. And they've got

733
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: their name aimes on their clothes. Yet, this film mostly

734
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: has a very sanitized view of how death works because

735
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: mostly things happen, people become very still and they're dead.

736
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: It's weirdly sanitized for a film that is otherwise uh,

737
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: you know just on paper is obsessed with death. Yeah.

738
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: It's not a bloody movie. It's actually it's it's it's

739
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: very clean. Yeah. Uh. And there are a number, like

740
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: pretty much all outlaw biker films. You've got to have

741
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: just these scenes of the characters being lawless and dangerous

742
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: and and and harassing other people. I would call these

743
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: scenes to take a coinage from Polly Walnuts Mayhem. You know,

744
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: you've got to have your Mayhem sequences. And so so

745
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: that's what we get right at the get go. They

746
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: go straight from the stone Circle stunts to to riding

747
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: around doing mayhem and uh. And so the leader played

748
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: by Nicky Henson is this guy named Tom Latham. I

749
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: already mentioned that he is sort of like Nigel tough

750
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: Knell of Spinal Tap, but I would describe him as

751
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: a cross between Nigel tough Knell and Malcolm McDowell and

752
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: a clockwork orange picture. Those two in a in a

753
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: ven diagram, and then you've got Tom. Yeah. But La

754
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: la la a lot more likable, more likable than perhaps

755
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: any Malcolm McDowell character has ever Sure. Yeah, Now, of

756
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: course it's being a biker film. There are lots of

757
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: shots of bikers biking. Um, one thing that sets us

758
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: apart from let's say, less well crafted biker films. And

759
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: I've seen a few of these where sometimes you'll have

760
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: a camera set up and you'll just watch the bikers

761
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: approach for like a mile in the desert, you know, Um,

762
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: werewolves on wheels does that, Yeah, where it's just like, wow,

763
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: we're really gonna watch this for a while. They set

764
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: up this shot and we're gonna we're gonna see all

765
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: of it. But and there there's maybe like one shot

766
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: in this where it felt like it went on a

767
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: bit long. But otherwise they did a good job of

768
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: of just giving us interesting footage of our gang terrorizing

769
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: the roads. So a sin that is often committed by

770
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: B movies is padding, trying to insert extra stuff to

771
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: pad out the run time and get to full feature length.

772
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: That is a thing I would not accuse this movie of.

773
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lot of padding. I think

774
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: it moves at a pretty nice pace and there's not

775
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: a lot of just watching people drive around with no purpose. Yeah.

776
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: And if I think if some people were confused by

777
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: the film and they might say, well, maybe we needed

778
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: more of the film to explain these things, I think

779
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: that I think that would be the wrong instinct, because

780
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff, like the frogs, that we

781
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: don't completely understand. There's a cryptic nature to it, and

782
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: I feel like that is how it should be. Given

783
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: the magic that's taking place here. We're not supposed to

784
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: understand frog necromancy. It is supposed to be a mystery

785
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: to us. I almost forgot about the frogs. We got

786
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: to talk about the frog So we do the mayhem

787
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: at the beginning, and then the next scene is we

788
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: get Tom and Abby. Abby is another member of the gang.

789
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: Uh and and Tom is her boyfriend, and they're hanging

790
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: out in a graveyard and uh and Tom catches a

791
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: frog in the graveyard and he says hello, little green friend,

792
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: and uh and Abby. It's funny because Abby seems like

793
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: she does not really belong in this gang. She just

794
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: seems like an extremely nice young lady who would not

795
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: be out doing highway murders the rest of the gang

796
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: or obviously these immoral, lawless creeps. And and Abby just

797
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: seems like like she's she's just a nice girl. So

798
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's going on there, but it makes

799
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: sense because she's she I think of it. Chilli becomes

800
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: the main character. Um, and you're only five minutes into

801
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: the movie before Tom is saying to Abby, let's do it.

802
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: Let's kill ourselves and become some kind of cursed, undead monsters,

803
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: and and Abby's like, oh, Tom, not that again. So

804
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: apparently he brings this up all the time every time

805
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: they get together. He's like, what do you say, let's

806
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: become undead. Uh. It's also kind of strange how much

807
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: she seems to take this in stride, like she's just

808
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: like that's silly, not like it doesn't really bother her. Yeah,

809
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: but clearly yea, he talks about it a lot. This

810
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: is his thing, like it was probably I don't know

811
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: if they had yearbooks in uh in Britain at this time,

812
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: but if they had one, he would be most likely

813
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: to to destroy oneself and become an undead monster. Right.

814
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: So Tom goes back to his house, which is a

815
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: gigantic mansion. Wouldn't you know it? This good for nothing

816
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: moto Rascal is actually a posh rich kid, and so

817
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: they're at the house. You find out his family. I

818
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: don't know how much to explain the family situation. So

819
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: the family is him and his mother and their butler, Shadwell,

820
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: and his mother and Shadwell seemed to be into evil

821
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: magic there. They're into the occult. They do seances and

822
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: other occult stuff in the house. And Uh, Tom's father

823
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: has passed away because it's implied he tried to do

824
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: some kind of dangerous evil ritual and failed and died

825
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: in the process. Right and possibly like permanently warped room

826
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: in their house with foul magic from beyond. Um. Again,

827
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: not completely explained, and I don't want the film to

828
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: explain it more. I like that it's so cryptic. Um.

829
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is a weird house in a weird

830
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: family setting because Shadwell is not really he's the butler.

831
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: He's not, he's not his father. But he also there's

832
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: a there's clear from the very beginning that Shadwell is

833
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: not just a butler. There is there's a power to him,

834
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: there's knowledge there, and he's he's only so involved in

835
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: the actual affairs of the family. Like I noticed that

836
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: a lot of times that maybe in a very sort

837
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: of proper uh you know, English butler way, Uh, one

838
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: of them will express an emotion and he'll comment upon it,

839
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: but he's not really expressing an opinion one way or

840
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: the other. Yes, the circumspect removed jeeves Ish editorial position. Yeah,

841
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean he's like Jeeves. But if Jeeves were an

842
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: ancient rud warlock. Yes, yeah, because ultimately we we come

843
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: to to learn that he is either some sort of

844
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: an ancient druid warlock or perhaps something worse, perhaps a

845
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: demon or the devil himself, or or something something from beyond.

846
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. It could go either way. But but

847
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot more to Shadwell than just butlering. So

848
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: Tom gets home with this frog that he caught in

849
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: the graveyard and he's like, He's like, Okay, I want

850
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: to know the secret of the living dead, And and

851
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: I guess Shadwell is like, okay, maybe he should know.

852
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: Maybe not, Um, but the frog seems significant. Can you

853
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: explain the frog to me? I've seen this movie multiple

854
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: times and I don't understand the relationship between the frog

855
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: and the power to come back from the dead. Um. Yeah,

856
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't really have a clear answer. But we see

857
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: actual frogs. We see, of course, the wonderful frog ammulet

858
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: that comes up that when he first appeared on screen,

859
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: I I audibly ga it was so to behold wonderful jewelry.

860
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: So Tom's mother is like, kids, should we tell him

861
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: the secret of the living dead? It could be dangerous

862
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: for him, And Chad wells like, it won't be dangerous

863
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: for him if he's protected with this and then he

864
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: gets out this necklace that's got a frog on it,

865
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: and I think Chad Well has a ring with the

866
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: frog on it as well. Uh uh. And then oh,

867
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: and then there's the like the Frog from Beyond. There's

868
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: like a dreamlike sequence involving a mirror that cast no reflection,

869
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: and within that smoking mirror of a cult uh weirdness,

870
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: we see the form of a frog. So I don't

871
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: know if like that is the form of the force

872
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: from beyond? Is it is it conveying information? Or is

873
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,479
Speaker 1: that there? Or is that the is that the form

874
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: of the destroyer? And this h this picture, I don't know,

875
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: so many questions, but the frog is a repeating symbol

876
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: and uh oh yeah, it's uh it's goods. There's a

877
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: lot of frog action in this and it absolutely works.

878
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: There's also a wonderful scene where when Tom and his

879
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: mother first meet up, they start waltzing around the living room.

880
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: They've got like a sunken living room and they're dancing

881
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: and she's like, Tom, now I you know, I think

882
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: the police are after you. And he says, the word

883
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: mother is fuzz and she says, she says, if you

884
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: don't be careful, you're going to end up arrested, and

885
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: he says the word mother is busted. It's weird how

886
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's having to educate his mom on

887
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: the cool lingo. But their living room is really hip

888
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: like it's a very mod living room with m like

889
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: they had this cosmic like black star skate behind the

890
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: occult seance table, and then there's a fireplace and there's

891
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: like a this weird modern furniture going on. It's a

892
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: it's a strange, strange living room and I love it.

893
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: But ultimately, in this whole sequence, Tom has Tom has

894
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,959
Speaker 1: this weird thing where he goes into the cursed room

895
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: and faces the magic mirror, and ultimately he finds out

896
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: the secret of the living dead by overhearing his mother,

897
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: and it does it seems like much of a secret.

898
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: The secret just seems to be that you have to

899
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: to become an evil, undead immortal, you have to kill

900
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: yourself and truly believe you'll come back from the dead.

901
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: And Tom is, I guess he's convinced of this. I

902
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: don't know that. I'm trying to remember what specifically convinced him.

903
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: Maybe it was the experience in the room, like encountering

904
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: other worldly, weird, magical things. But when he he's terrified

905
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: in the room, like there's there's a lot of terrified

906
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: acting going on while he's in there. But it's not

907
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: long afterwards, so he gets out of there. He wakes

908
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: up and he's like, all right, let's do it. Death

909
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: and immortality bring it on, right, And so the next

910
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: day he's ready. He's ready. He's ready to become the

911
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: Litch King. So, like we said earlier, every outlaw biker

912
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: movie has to have scenes of bikers riding around knocking

913
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: things over. You know, they see stuff that's vertical and

914
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: just their eyes go red and they're like, uh, you're

915
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be vertical for long. And so they

916
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: ride around in the town square knocking stuff over in

917
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: a in a scene of chaos and mayhem that will

918
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: that will culminate in Tom driving his motorcycle off a

919
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: bridge to become the evil Dead. Right. He watches up

920
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: on the bank and they're like two children there and

921
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: they're like look. And so then after this we get

922
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: a scene is one of the best scenes in the movie.

923
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: It's the funeral for Tom, which they have at this

924
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: stone circle that you saw on the opening of the film,

925
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: which they called The Seven Witches. I don't know which

926
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: elements to focus on first, but this scene is so great.

927
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: Maybe the folk song. So there's one of the bikers

928
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: who again they they kill people. He's also like a

929
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: sweet singer songwriter, and he plays this song that goes

930
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: and the world never knew his name, but the chosen

931
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: few know of his fame. Yeah, it's really good. Um

932
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: and and uh, you can find clips of this whole

933
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: song on YouTube if you look around for it. But uh, yeah,

934
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: there's the folk song that's going on. That's wonderful. Just

935
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 1: also the whole premise because basically what's happened is after

936
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: he after Tom died, Abby came to his mom and said, hey, um,

937
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: it's sad that Tom died. We would love to bury

938
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: him in our way, according to our custom according to

939
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: our customs. So you might wonder what is the traditional

940
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: English biker funeral. Well, apparently involves I guess being taxidermide

941
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: atop your motorcycle and then buried on your motorcycle in

942
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: a grave, like an enormous grave. And in this case

943
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: that isn't the grave like adjacent to the hinge. It's

944
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: really right, in the middle of the hinge, which seems

945
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: this seems like this would not be legal the authorities.

946
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: I do not think they would let you bury somebody

947
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: there and on a motorcycle. I mean, it's gonna motorcycle

948
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: just on it. It reminds me of the actual practice

949
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: of horse burial, where, for example, you might see an

950
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: ancient Scythian warrior buried with his horse. I think this

951
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: this practice is common among um people more in sort

952
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: of like the Indo European and Central Asian regions throughout

953
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: his street where you know, the strong, strong horse based cultures,

954
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: people would sometimes be buried with their horse in some way,

955
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: and here it's like that, but it's the motorcycle instead

956
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,959
Speaker 1: of the horse. Yeah, yeah, it's but it's great because

957
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: he's just sitting on the boy. He's just being real still,

958
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, on the on the motorcycle in the grave

959
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: while they're playing the song. And then oh and then

960
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: of course you get to you see the hinge the

961
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: stones behind them, and then also there's a smoke stack

962
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: in the background. And I just love that shot like that,

963
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: that shot just feels so seventies Britain. I love it,

964
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: and the song going on the lyrics. At one point

965
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: the singer goes and he really got it on. He

966
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: rode that sweet machine just like a bomb. And it's like,

967
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: I can't think of instances of people riding bombs except

968
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: in doctors strange love. Is that what he meant? Maybe

969
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,959
Speaker 1: so I mean the time the time frame would work,

970
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: or maybe it's British biker lingo that we're just this.

971
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: But so, of course Tom comes back from the grave

972
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: as as an evil, undead version of himself. I guess

973
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: he was already evil. Please don't just say he camp

974
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: comes back from the grave. He busts up out of

975
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: the grave. So there's a scene where um the like

976
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: a car pulls over on the highway and the man

977
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: gets out of the car and his wife there is

978
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: like he's like, oh, we're having car trouble. I've got

979
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: to go to the garage. And his wife says, you

980
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: could get there faster if you cut through the seven witches.

981
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: You're not afraid, are you, And he's like, no, obviously

982
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: he is. So he's walking through the seven witches. But

983
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: then what's that he hears is that a little bit

984
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: of a Is that a revving? The revving of a

985
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: motorcycle as if coming up from out of the earth,

986
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: and then boom, spray of dirt. Tom busts up out

987
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: of his grave on the motorcycle and runs the s

988
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: guy over. Yeah, so Tom is back from the grave.

989
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: And one of the great things about this is you

990
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: might expect, given all this, that that Tom would be

991
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: this like grizzly undead biker now. But no, Tom looks

992
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: exactly like he did in life, acts exactly like he

993
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: did in life, with the added caveat that he is

994
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: now seemingly immortal and indestructible. And you might wonder, well,

995
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: what's his how does he exploit this? Well, the first

996
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: things he does is he basically he takes up his

997
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: his hog, and then he he also goes in as

998
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: a beer and he doesn't pay for any of these

999
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: things because he is invincible. Well, he kills the service

1000
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: station attendant because he asked him for money, and then

1001
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: he also at he goes to the pub to use

1002
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: the telephone um because he wants to call Shadwell. He

1003
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: calls Shadwell on the phone and Shadwell is like, Oh,

1004
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: how does it feel to be back? And he says

1005
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: splendid and uh, he seems maybe even more freed from

1006
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: pathetic human morality than he was before, because now he's

1007
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: just doing murders. Everywhere he goes is like like five

1008
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: at a time. Yeah. There's like a lady at the

1009
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: pub who wants to to ride on his motorcycle. She's like,

1010
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: take me for a ride, and he's like no, and

1011
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: he just kills her. Yeah, he's off screen killing everybody. Yes,

1012
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: but yeah, so he's he's immortal and invulnerable, and he

1013
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: appears back to the rest of his gang and he says, hey,

1014
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, here's the deal. If you kill yourself and

1015
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: become an undead lich king like me, you will be

1016
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: indestructible and then we can really party. Yeah, and they

1017
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: buy into it instantly because the proof is in the pudding.

1018
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: Like here he is, he's back. You don't need to

1019
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: go into the weird mirror room because Tom stands before you.

1020
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: And also one of them tries to stab him, and

1021
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: he's like, it doesn't work on me anymore. See, I'm immortal.

1022
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: You guys should join the club. He's not bothered by it. Yeah,

1023
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: the guy tries to stab him and he's just like,

1024
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: isn't it cool? Um? But so there is a guess

1025
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: a very darkly comic sequence where all the rest of

1026
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: the bikers are like, you know, I'm next, and they

1027
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: take their turns doing are suicides to become the evil dead. Yeah,

1028
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: it's a sequence that is was just shockingly hilarious, uh

1029
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: strong gallows humor. But it's like each one chooses a

1030
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: different method. The one that got me though, is the

1031
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: is the bike graphic get which one this is? He's

1032
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: he's wearing a swimsuit and he's laid in with chains,

1033
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: like a ridiculous amount of chains, like like Bob Marley's ghost.

1034
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: He's towards Jacob Marley. I'm sorry, Jacob Marley's Ghost's not Bob. Sorry,

1035
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: Jacob Marley's ghost from from a Christmas Carol. He's laden

1036
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: in all these you know, fake chains, and he's he's

1037
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: he's shambling towards the river side. It's clearly to drown himself.

1038
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: But it's like, really, that's the method you choose, and

1039
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: and he does it one of them Obscaren of course, yes, yeah,

1040
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: one of them goes skydiving without a parachute. Um, yeah,

1041
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: but yes, the goal is they're all going to become

1042
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: undead bikers. Just like Tom. Yeah. And so in the end,

1043
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: because of course there's just death everywhere. Now, um, the

1044
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: police get involved. So the third act, that's, uh, I

1045
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: guess pretty standard for movies like this. The police come

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Speaker 1: in and they're like, well, we've got to we've got

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Speaker 1: to set a trap for Tom and the bikers, um,

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Speaker 1: and they decide they want to use Abby as bait

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Speaker 1: because Abby is the only one of them who doesn't

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Speaker 1: buy into this, and she decides she actually doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to become undead. She likes living, thanks very much, and

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Speaker 1: she backs out of it. So she does almost overdose

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Speaker 1: and has like a dream sequence. That's that's uh, that's

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Speaker 1: kind of good. Oh yeah, yeah, that is very good.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, they're the bikers are riding around and

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Speaker 1: there's yet another grocery store punishment scene where they're they're

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Speaker 1: just plowing through the aisles. This carnation evaporated milk must suffer,

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01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, the marmote will pay, and they're smashing all

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Speaker 1: of the products and you see and you see Jane

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Speaker 1: being especially evil. She's like, I, I you know, I

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Speaker 1: want to I want to hit baby carriages with my motorcycle.

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Speaker 1: I just want to do the most evil things I

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Speaker 1: can think of. Yeah, yeah, she run. She's on her

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Speaker 1: motorcycle driving through the aisle aiming at the baby carriage,

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Speaker 1: hits the baby carriage, and then of course Kareen's into

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Speaker 1: the like the meat counter the back and of course

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Speaker 1: these are all real motorcycle stunts. So it's like they're

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Speaker 1: just wiping out in a in a grocery store. It's

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Speaker 1: under grocery store they shot this in. Was it a

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Speaker 1: safe way, maybe so, But Abby's along. Abby's getting cold

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Speaker 1: feet at this point for sure, like she was really

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Speaker 1: I mean no, she's more than that, Like she she

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01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: had already decided she doesn't want any part of this,

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Speaker 1: but now she's part of this, this police scheme to

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Speaker 1: trap them, which I didn't completely understand how this played out,

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01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: because just suddenly, like they lay her out in the

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Speaker 1: morgue and they let Tom know that she's dead, I guess,

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01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: so that he'll come and get her. And then there

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Speaker 1: we get some groovy music playing and then there's a

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Speaker 1: suddenly we see all the police and the police inspector,

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Speaker 1: including Fudge. They're just they're in the like the coroners

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01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: when like the little cubby holes for the corpses for

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01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: the cadavers, and so I guess they've been off screen

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01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: killed as well. Yeah, I think that is the implication

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01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: that Tom just just dispatched them, as he does with

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01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: nearly everyone he meets now, because again he has super

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01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: strength and cannot be hurt. Right, They're just they're running wild.

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01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: Granted they're not trying to do much. But then we

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01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: get a scene where Shadwell and Mom are talking to

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01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: Tom and they're like, well, what are your plans? What's next?

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01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, well, you know, there are a

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01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: lot of police officers and teachers, and he just runs

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01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: through a list of like various generally like small level

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01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: local authority figures and he's like, we're just gonna kill

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01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: all of them. That's what we're gonna do. Uh, it's

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01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: gonna completely tear down society from the bottom up. So

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Speaker 1: then I think even Mom, even though she's been involved

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01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: in a lot of evil magic, she she sort of

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01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: has a change of heart. She's like, what have I done?

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01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,919
Speaker 1: What kind of monster have I created? And of course

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01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: Shadwell is there, and the Shadwell early on had had

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01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: mentioned had dropped that those stones that we saw earlier well,

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01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: those are what's left of ancient warlocks who forgot their

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01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: bargain or turned their back on the powers that they served.

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01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: And and so when she starts saying, well they must,

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01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: I want to back out. I don't want to be

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01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: part of whatever deal I've made with whoever, with the

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01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: beings beyond the mirror, the thing that takes the form

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01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: of the frog or what have you. And he's like, well,

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01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: you know, there's a price to pay, and she's like, well,

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01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: I will do it. And so that's what we get

1112
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: in the end. Even though the the evil Dead Bikers

1113
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: cannot be defeated by conventional arms or weapons, they can

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01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: be undone by ritual magic and so ultimately they've got

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01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: to call in somebody's mom to fix things. Yes, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: the final scene is Abby's standing up to the Abbe's

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01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: pretended to be undead, you know, sort of going along

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01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: with it, but Tom suspects something's up. When he drives

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01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: through a brick wall. It's total ann pas by it

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01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: and she goes around it and he's like, what's up.

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Speaker 1: You're not dead, are you? And she's like no, I

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01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: wanted to tell you. And then the whole game kind

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01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: of turns on her. He's reaching out to strangle her,

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01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: but Mom has turned off the magic and uh, perhaps

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01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: the sun is involved as well, because suddenly they start

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01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: turning to stone. All the bikers turned to stone right

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01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: there in the hinge, and Abby is the only one

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01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: left alive. And then this dark vehicle, uh, pulls up

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01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: and a lone figure gets out of it and begins

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01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: walking towards her. And I believe this is supposed to

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01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: be Shadwell, maybe in his like fully realized devil form

1132
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: or Warlock form or something. Yeah, so I love the

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01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: ending because it was one of these what's happening, what's

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01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: whether it's the future. Is Shadwell showing up now to

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01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: offer Abby the deal, the deal that the mom has

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Speaker 1: backed out on, the deal that we really don't know

1137
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: any of the details off, which again I kind of

1138
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: like because again, part of the film is it's about

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01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: the youth. It's about the youth in the world that

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01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: the grown ups have created, and they certainly don't understand

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Speaker 1: all the ramifications and the rules of that world, either

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01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: the real world or certainly the supernatural world that Shadwell

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Speaker 1: and Mom are involved in. Yeah, and you know one

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Speaker 1: thing I love about the ending is that all these

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01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: biker movies are about young people rebelling against authority structures.

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01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: Something about the motorcycle signals a kind of freedom, a

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01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: kind of removal of the constraints established by the authority

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01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: figures around you. And at the end of this movie,

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01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: what you've got to do is call somebody's mom to

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01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: to like make him stop acting up. And I love it. Yeah,

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01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: And then we roll credits, and uh, it's also fun.

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01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: This is a credit credit sequence that uh the divides

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01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: the cast up by the factions they were involved in,

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01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: which I thought was nice. So you get a full

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Speaker 1: list of the bikers, you get the uh the law,

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01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: you also get the survivors. So I really, I really

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01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I wish I saw it, we saw that

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01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: more certainly in modern um modern uh credits on films.

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01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I like that too. I like the

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01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: fonts to I always get a fontent on good fonts.

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01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: Even the fonts on their their jackets are really nice.

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01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: Tom I believe has like a pink and green like

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01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: kind of a it's kind of like a like it

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01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: feels very eighties. The coloration on his name tag, portion

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01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: of his his jacket. But I really like it. I'm

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01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: just surprised nobody has remade this or revisited it. Yeah, ultimate,

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01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean this is a I think a nearly perfect

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01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: trash movie. Uh. I could not ask for a better

1169
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: seventies supernatural biker movie. That this is sort of the

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Speaker 1: peak for me. Yeah, I agree this. I think this

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01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: is the supernatural biker film par excellence. Um. So you

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01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: might be wondering out there, well, where can I watch Psychomania? Well,

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Speaker 1: Psychomania fortunately is widely available, uh in digital formats. Aero

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01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: Video put out an absolutely beautiful looking two disc blue

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01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: ray of this film a few years back, and you

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01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: can still pick that up. The soundtrack is also widely

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Speaker 1: available in all formats. But if you're looking to stream

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Speaker 1: this picture, I believe it is hosted on numerous streaming

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01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: platform slash channels including shutter fandor and a m C

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Speaker 1: and all of those free trial periods. So if you

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01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: just want to dip in and get yourself some Psychomania

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01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: and then and then check out both, then that that's

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01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: certainly an option. Alright, We're gonna go and close this

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Speaker 1: out real quick though, you know, since there were some

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Speaker 1: suicidal elements in this picture and we discuss them a

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Speaker 1: little bit. If you're troubled by suicidal thoughts, you're not

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01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: alone in a sympathetic ears only a phone call away.

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01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: In the United States, consider calling the National Suicide Prevention

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01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: Hotline eight to five five. You can visit Suicide Prevention

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01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: Lifeline dot org for additional resources tailored towards general and

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01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: specific needs and communities. You'll also find a list of

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Speaker 1: local and international suicide hotlines at suicide dot org. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna be it for this episode of Weird House Cinema,

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01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: but we will be back. Uh. You can check out

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Speaker 1: Weird House Cinema every Friday. In the Stuff to Blow

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Speaker 1: a Listener Mail on Monday's, Artifact on Wednesday, Vault episode

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Speaker 1: on Friday, and a little rerun on the weekend. Huge

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