Speaker 1: Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
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Speaker 2: Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 3: Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Speaker 3: Other Side.
Speaker 1: Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
Speaker 1: everything on the other side.
Speaker 3: Yes we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
Speaker 3: or to some the invisible world, life is going to
Speaker 3: be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1: Uh heck, yes it can, because let's be honest, for
Speaker 1: in earth school is hard.
Speaker 3: In fact, you taught me that let's crush Earth school together.
Speaker 1: Well, hello, by Witchy Pooh, do I have a guest
Speaker 1: for you? And I'm so excited awesome, and you need
Speaker 1: to ask who's our guest?
Speaker 3: Who's our guest?
Speaker 2: Who do you have for us?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So I just have to say, so
Speaker 1: we have with us today and so excited to bring
Speaker 1: to everybody to our audience is coriel Kramer. And Corielle
Speaker 1: is a right, she is an animal communicator. And I
Speaker 1: just have to give a little like little origin story
Speaker 1: here because I think it's kind of fun. Is I
Speaker 1: actually was introduced to Coriele by my high school boyfriend's
Speaker 1: sister Diane. Yeah, unpack that everybody. And and Deana is
Speaker 1: now is a friend of mine. I've known her forever
Speaker 1: and she came to town and she had said, she goes,
Speaker 1: you know, I've met this really amazing woman and you
Speaker 1: know she actually you know, connected with my dog and
Speaker 1: Da Da da, and I really want you to meet her,
Speaker 1: like I think you'll like her. And I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: sure I would.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: And so we actually met, and and so Coriel and
Speaker 1: I have developed a friendship and and also Suzanne, and
Speaker 1: it's just really it's been fun so far. And I've
Speaker 1: just learned a lot more about her, and I thought
Speaker 1: that everybody else would want to learn more about, you know,
Speaker 1: her origin story and what she's developed. And I just
Speaker 1: think it's really exciting.
Speaker 2: So welcome Coreol so much in the commuter house.
Speaker 1: That's where we are, right.
Speaker 2: It's true, thank you old ladies for having me.
Speaker 1: Oh we're so excited. Yeah, and I can't wait to
Speaker 1: learn even more. So let's look, let's get going. So
Speaker 1: as our audience knows, and as Brenda teases me relentlessly,
Speaker 1: is that I do love a good origin story. I
Speaker 1: think understanding where people came from, or characters like on
Speaker 1: you know, Iron Man, which I've referenced a lot. Understanding
Speaker 1: where they come from, you understand more about where they are.
Speaker 1: And I think that trying to understand you know, really coreol.
Speaker 1: Like I think people have probably heard your accent, so
Speaker 1: they might know you're from New York, but but you do,
Speaker 1: but you are my neighbor ish in Santa Fe. Maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know many people from Oklahoma that have your accents,
Speaker 1: so so why don't So why don't you share with us,
Speaker 1: you know, the early days of when you started to
Speaker 1: you know, maybe even like just right before you your
Speaker 1: first experience and kind of like with your mom and
Speaker 1: where you were living, and then that first experience and
Speaker 1: then we'll kind of go on from there because it's
Speaker 1: a fascinating experience.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. So the origin story is really coming
Speaker 2: from a woman who was, in my eyes, extraordinary, and
Speaker 2: that was my mother, and she was very supportive of
Speaker 2: the intuitive abilities that I showed at a very very
Speaker 2: early age. I would remember coming to her and saying,
Speaker 2: I see spirits. The cat said this, the dog said
Speaker 2: that I see Grandma. Even though my grandparents had all
Speaker 2: passed way before I was even born. So she would
Speaker 2: always sit me down and ask me, what's going on,
Speaker 2: what does this mean? Process this, let's look at this,
Speaker 2: as opposed to making me scared of what I could do.
Speaker 2: So she was a very forward thinking woman. She marched
Speaker 2: for things like equal rights for women and racial rights
Speaker 2: and equality for genders and the peace movement. You know,
Speaker 2: she was very forward thinking. You couldn't really tell her anything.
Speaker 2: She didn't take small minded people very well. So she
Speaker 2: was very supportive of what I could do, even though
Speaker 2: it wasn't really honed. My earliest memory of connecting to
Speaker 2: an animal, I mean really connecting and having a full
Speaker 2: blown conversation as opposed to just like single words was
Speaker 2: around about age four or five, and my mom and
Speaker 2: I were going to the supermarket and you.
Speaker 1: Guys, where are you guys living at the New York.
Speaker 2: Born and raised Manhattan, as you can say when I
Speaker 2: say the word coffee. So we were on our way
Speaker 2: to the supermarket. She got to stopped by a neighbor,
Speaker 2: and the neighbor and my mom were talking outside the
Speaker 2: supermarket and my back was looking at them, and I remember,
Speaker 2: I don't remember what they said. I just remember it
Speaker 2: being kind of like the Charlie Brown cartoons. Two adults
Speaker 2: talking wow wah wah wah whah. I don't remember what
Speaker 2: they were talking about, adults stuff, And all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: in my mind, in my head, I heard this voice.
Speaker 2: It was a male voice, and I heard it really
Speaker 2: really really clear, and it said, please pet me. And
Speaker 2: I'm looking at my my adults that are in front
Speaker 2: of me, these adults that are front of me. I
Speaker 2: know it didn't come from them, so I look at her.
Speaker 2: Or if it did, there's nobody around right, and so
Speaker 2: but you got to check, you know, because even then
Speaker 2: I was talking and seeing spirits. So I'm looking around
Speaker 2: thinking when am I doing. Finally I look behind me
Speaker 2: and I see this rot whiler. He was giant to me.
Speaker 2: Remember I'm four years old, so I'm a little little bitty,
Speaker 2: so he just looked like he was humongous. But he's
Speaker 2: looking me at me, staring me in the eyes, and
Speaker 2: he says, and I said said to him, what did
Speaker 2: you say? And he said, please pet me. I hear
Speaker 2: the voice in my head again. So I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: we have no fear at four years old, So I
Speaker 2: go a lot of Dottie yelling over to the big
Speaker 2: giant rot whiler, and I start petting him on the
Speaker 2: head and I start scratching him under the chin, and
Speaker 2: I start scratching him on his chest and he immediately
Speaker 2: starts to lay down on his side, so I'm rubbing
Speaker 2: him on his side. He's going all out and he's
Speaker 2: having a ball, an absolute ball. And I remember being
Speaker 2: in that joy of Even though I was four years old,
Speaker 2: I understood that how important that moment was. I didn't,
Speaker 2: you know, process it as I do now as an adult.
Speaker 2: I was like, isn't this freaking awesome? You know, I
Speaker 2: was able to hear him and help him. That was
Speaker 2: so important to me, you know. I remember being so excited.
Speaker 2: And I eventually rolls around on his back and I'm
Speaker 2: rubbing his belly and he's having a great time. And
Speaker 2: just I remember that joy in that moment, just both
Speaker 2: of us just impure, unadulterated joy and happiness. It was
Speaker 2: like we were in our own low bubble. And yeah,
Speaker 2: it was so poignant, it was so strongly felt by
Speaker 2: both of us.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a pure connection, right.
Speaker 2: The purest right, Yeah, like the absolute purest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no obligation, just connecting out of joy.
Speaker 2: Ah, and just wanting to do good by this being,
Speaker 2: you know, for no other reason other than that, well,
Speaker 2: as fate would have it. All of a sudden, we're
Speaker 2: in our bubble of joy, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I hear this man screaming, and he's screaming, you know,
Speaker 2: get away from that dog. He's vicious, you know. And
Speaker 2: our bubble was instantly popped broken, and the dog jumps
Speaker 2: up on his feet, you know. And I'm still on
Speaker 2: my knees, you know, and I see this man running
Speaker 2: towards us with this anger on his face, and I
Speaker 2: realized it as a four year old. Okay, that bubble
Speaker 2: is broken. That moment is gone, and he grabs the
Speaker 2: dog's leash, he unties it from the parking meter, and
Speaker 2: he says something to me, and I remember it vaguely
Speaker 2: as being don't be so stupid. This dog is vicious.
Speaker 2: And he walks off with the dog, stomps off with
Speaker 2: the dog, and I'm still on my knees and I'm
Speaker 2: looking at the dog. The dog looks back and I
Speaker 2: hear again the same voice in my head, that same
Speaker 2: male voice in my head, and the dog says thank you,
Speaker 2: and then they go down the street and around the corner,
Speaker 2: and I never see that dog ever again, but we
Speaker 2: had that moment. And my mom stops talking, of course,
Speaker 2: as soon as the man starts screaming, and she runs
Speaker 2: over to me and she says, what happened? And I said,
Speaker 2: the dog just asked me to pet him, and I
Speaker 2: pet him, and the guy got really upset. And I
Speaker 2: remember my mom's look on her face. She looked at me,
Speaker 2: not in fear, not in questioning, just like she took
Speaker 2: it as gospel right then and there. And she looked
Speaker 2: at me and then she her eyes crinkled and she
Speaker 2: got you know, she was smiling, and she looked at
Speaker 2: me and she tilts her to her head kind of
Speaker 2: like an awe. She says, you are so special, my girl.
Speaker 2: And that's my mom in a nutshell.
Speaker 3: You guys had the same mom.
Speaker 1: We told like, our moms would have totally been friends.
Speaker 1: If either Coriel had to live in Oklahoma or we
Speaker 1: lived in New York. I got moms would have been
Speaker 1: best friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yepm would have.
Speaker 3: My mom would have been the same in the political realms,
Speaker 3: but I'm not sure about the other. But that's amazing amazing.
Speaker 3: It's amazing, and what a healing for that dog, right,
Speaker 3: so much so? Right that says, you see, well, in.
Speaker 2: That moment, you're given something that I realized a course
Speaker 2: years later when I thought about it. You know, the
Speaker 2: dog was being told he's vicious all the time. He's
Speaker 2: being probably trained to be this vicious animal, and he
Speaker 2: really wasn't. In his heart, he was this lover. He
Speaker 2: was probably the sensory, you know, dynamic personality archetype that
Speaker 2: we'll talk about later. But looking back on it now,
Speaker 2: he was a lover. He wasn't a fighter, but he
Speaker 2: was made to feel like he had to be a fighter.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I had to be exhausted because it's because his
Speaker 3: caretaker was so fearful. Yeah, I totally right. That's a great,
Speaker 3: great origin story. So isn't that amazing. We'll be right back,
Speaker 3: so welcome back. We're I'm so excited for this session.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear more stories. So what else
Speaker 3: start help for us?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I remember when you know, one of the
Speaker 1: times we've gotten together, I asked about like wild animals,
Speaker 1: like have you had communications with wild animals? And of
Speaker 1: course I'm asking like ship that I would think you'd
Speaker 1: say no to because I like to do that. And
Speaker 1: then I think I added, have you ever had a snake?
Speaker 1: And you actually looked at me and said, well, I have,
Speaker 1: So will you share the story because I love this story.
Speaker 2: So I loved you.
Speaker 1: I love all your stories, but this one was like
Speaker 1: unbelievable to me. So again I'm prompting, so forgive the prompts.
Speaker 1: But it's an amazing story.
Speaker 2: That's okay. So I was living in my mom's house
Speaker 2: in upstate New York. And I believe it was around
Speaker 2: about twenty ten or so, so she had passed, and
Speaker 2: she passed in two thousand and eight. So I was
Speaker 2: living in her house in upstate New York, and I
Speaker 2: was outside and I was doing some gardening around the place,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden I heard again, all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, but I see that there's the snake that
Speaker 2: is in the garden. And it's a little garter snake.
Speaker 2: There's nothing poisonous in upstate New York, at least not
Speaker 2: that I'm aware of anyway.
Speaker 1: Politician, just politician, and that's the only boys.
Speaker 2: In the year. Yeah, I don't talk politics. That's a
Speaker 2: dangerous subject.
Speaker 3: It was just a joke.
Speaker 2: So I this snake is looking at me intently. Now,
Speaker 2: for a snake to look at you, that's pretty something,
Speaker 2: you know, because usually they're down on the ground and
Speaker 2: they're not really and I'm standing up and I'm not
Speaker 2: six foot, I'm five six, but still for them to
Speaker 2: get up and look at me. It was actually a
Speaker 2: her because I always ask what their gender is, and
Speaker 2: for her to look up at me up and she
Speaker 2: said to me, she said, I want you to get
Speaker 2: down on the ground. And I was like, okay, look,
Speaker 2: you know, by this time, I've been talking to animals
Speaker 2: almost half of my life, all right, so when they ask,
Speaker 2: I don't really question. I'm just like, something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Just strap in, hold on, and enjoy the ride. So
Speaker 2: I got down and I was sitting down, and the
Speaker 2: snake said no, no, get lower, And I got lower
Speaker 2: and I laid down with my chest on the ground,
Speaker 2: and the snake was like, do you feel that? Just
Speaker 2: Just take them home and feel that. What the snake
Speaker 2: was trying to do is as straight as snake was saying.
Speaker 2: You know, we're close to the ground. Being reptiles. The
Speaker 2: reptiles are very close to the ground. And we feel
Speaker 2: the heartbeat of the earth, and can you feel the
Speaker 2: energy down here? And I did. It feels different. You're
Speaker 2: closer to the Earth's magnetic field. And this is nothing
Speaker 2: woo woo. This has been scientifically, although you know it's
Speaker 2: still Native Americans have known about grounding or earthing or
Speaker 2: whatever millennia. Okay, we know about it. We believe that
Speaker 2: we walk upon the earth with grace and dignity and
Speaker 2: because of that, super connected. But what happens is that
Speaker 2: you get disconnected very very easily. And the snake was
Speaker 2: trying to get me to feel the energy difference and
Speaker 2: I did. It felt like the difference between hearing music
Speaker 2: and going over to the speaker and hugging the music
Speaker 2: the speaker feeling the music. Yeah, And it was really wild.
Speaker 2: I had never done this before. And I was sitting there.
Speaker 2: I was laying there with that snake for I think
Speaker 2: it was upwards of two hours, which is feeling the
Speaker 2: energy of the different plants and the roots and the
Speaker 2: mushrooms and the hole and the grass and the trees.
Speaker 2: And then she told me to go even deeper, and
Speaker 2: she told me how to feel the heartbeat of the earth.
Speaker 2: And it was like my heartbeat was. I heard my
Speaker 2: blood pumping in my ears, and then I felt The
Speaker 2: best way could describe it is I connected to the
Speaker 2: Earth's core. I felt the energy there. And then eventually,
Speaker 2: after a little bit of time. Don't ask me how long.
Speaker 2: Time is irrelevant in this case. What started happening was
Speaker 2: was that I started to feel like my heartbeat was
Speaker 2: sinking up to the rhythm of the earth. Yes, and
Speaker 2: I felt so connected. I felt so peaceful. I was
Speaker 2: seeing stuff. This is why people I don't need to
Speaker 2: go on any kind of drugs, okay, from what I'm seeing, okay.
Speaker 2: And I started to as my heart sunk up with
Speaker 2: the heartbeat of the earth or the pulsating of the earth.
Speaker 2: I opened my eyes and it was like I saw
Speaker 2: all the energy feels. I saw the ores of everything.
Speaker 2: And I don't see ours normally, it's too much. It's
Speaker 2: not my thing. So I saw the aura and the
Speaker 2: energy that was shimmering around the trees and the grass
Speaker 2: and everything. There was energy around everything. It was incredible.
Speaker 2: It was absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1: Now, did the snake ask you to do something else
Speaker 1: with the earth?
Speaker 3: Like the.
Speaker 1: Speed the something else?
Speaker 2: So once my heartbeat, thank you, for reminding me. So
Speaker 2: what happened was was that my as my heartbeat sunk up,
Speaker 2: the snake said, now you could start to see how
Speaker 2: powerful you are. And of course I say, what do
Speaker 2: you mean? And she says, change the heartbeat. Change your heartbeat,
Speaker 2: and you change the heartbeat of the earth. And so
Speaker 2: I was able through breathing techniques that I had learned,
Speaker 2: I was able to really really slow down my breathing
Speaker 2: and my heartbeat. And when I did that, I noticed
Speaker 2: that the heart beat of the Earth started slowing down,
Speaker 2: and vice versa. When the heart beat of the earth,
Speaker 2: when I asked the connected to the energy of the
Speaker 2: heartbeat of the earth, I asked it to speed up,
Speaker 2: and I felt it speeding up, and then my heartbeat
Speaker 2: started speeding up. So basically, the vibration of what was
Speaker 2: going on with my heart was going on with the
Speaker 2: vibration of the earth, and we were sinking up.
Speaker 3: That's awesome. That's awesome, Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to challenge every listener, after you listen
Speaker 1: to this show, go out to the yard and lay
Speaker 1: down and maybe as.
Speaker 2: Long as you're in a place that doesn't have a
Speaker 2: lot of snow, exactly that's.
Speaker 3: What I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: That's totally fair. That's totally totally fair. Although we feel
Speaker 1: like literally days so you know, you've you've you've shared
Speaker 1: two really amazing I mean, obviously where this all leads
Speaker 1: to is that this became your work in your life.
Speaker 1: But but you shared two really amazing stories that really
Speaker 1: could kind of make it tear up. And I know
Speaker 1: that you know when we have, you know, spoken in
Speaker 1: the past, that you know there are certain places that
Speaker 1: make it really hard for you because of your sensitivities
Speaker 1: and your communication gifts with or with the animal kingdom.
Speaker 1: You know, this tell a little bit about the unpleasantness
Speaker 1: of this as well.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: In order to do that, I got to let you
Speaker 2: know a little bit more of the abilities that I do.
Speaker 2: So animals are telepathic, and when animals, what that means
Speaker 2: is is that telepathic. The word telepathic is Latin for
Speaker 2: feelings across the distance, so any kind of distance. It
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be hundreds of thousands of miles, but
Speaker 2: it can be. So animals are telepathic. This is why animals,
Speaker 2: for example, wolves, when they're going after prey or hyenas
Speaker 2: or any kind of prey animal that you've seen in
Speaker 2: a group and a documentary. They are able to communicate
Speaker 2: with each other through distances about where everybody needs to
Speaker 2: be and positions and when attacking is supposed to happen,
Speaker 2: and this whole thing. Yes, of course the animals see, okay,
Speaker 2: each other's body language, but basically the way they communicate
Speaker 2: that thought is to communicate connect to that other animal's energy,
Speaker 2: and then through that they're able to send information to
Speaker 2: one another. Okay, how else would you explain a pack
Speaker 2: of hyenas or a pack of rules or whatever being
Speaker 2: able to take down prey as precisely as they do. So,
Speaker 2: first off, I'm telepathic. All human beings are telepathic. All
Speaker 2: beings on this planet under telepathic. But humans, being humans,
Speaker 2: we have a tendency to have what I call monkey minds.
Speaker 2: So we're all busy about what we're going to do next.
Speaker 2: When we're going to do we're not so much in
Speaker 2: the present. We're usually in the future or where in
Speaker 2: the past. So if you slow your mind down enough,
Speaker 2: you'll understand how telepathic you are. But essentially, with every
Speaker 2: word you speak, you are sending out an intention, You
Speaker 2: are sending out a vibration, you are sending out an image,
Speaker 2: and animals are understand that. So animals are telepathic. Animals
Speaker 2: are also what I call empathic. So what EmPATH, basically
Speaker 2: being an EmPATH mean is being able to feel feelings
Speaker 2: of others. Whether that other might be a tree, or
Speaker 2: might be a person, or might be an animal, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: So I'm empathic and I am telepathic, So I can
Speaker 2: hear animals, I can end people's thoughts when they shoot
Speaker 2: them to me. And I can feel the emotions and
Speaker 2: the feelings of animals and people in the world around me.
Speaker 2: So with these two abilities, so to speak, going to
Speaker 2: certain places can be very, very challenging for me. Now
Speaker 2: this is way before I was doing work professionally as
Speaker 2: a professional animal communicator, as a professional intuitive, as a
Speaker 2: professional energy healer. I have come to understand, as I'm
Speaker 2: sure you ladies do about shielding. This is putting up
Speaker 2: a bubble, okay, or whatever shape you want to use.
Speaker 2: You can use an hexagonal, I don't care, Okay, exodon,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to do. But the thing of it
Speaker 2: is is that it's putting up a barrier so you
Speaker 2: can and that barrier can be as strong or as
Speaker 2: porous as you want it. To be or as solid
Speaker 2: as you wanted to be. The more solid that barrier is,
Speaker 2: the less stuff gets through. Well, I didn't know about
Speaker 2: this when I was a kid. I was going around
Speaker 2: Lady Doddy, Dodi Dada, I'm in the world, and what
Speaker 2: was happening was was that I was getting inundated with
Speaker 2: feelings and thoughts and images and pain, and so going
Speaker 2: to places like circuses, zoos, heading zoos, going to animal shelters,
Speaker 2: going to especially kill shelters where there's a lot of fear,
Speaker 2: going to farms unless the animals were treated humanly became
Speaker 2: a nightmare for me. I remember going to a circus
Speaker 2: and everybody around me, I mean, I thought I was insane.
Speaker 2: I don't know how old I was. I was probably
Speaker 2: in the double digits, probably around maybe or maybe close
Speaker 2: to a little less than that. Everybody around me. I
Speaker 2: thought I was on LSD because everybody around me is
Speaker 2: laughing and having a good time and screaming and yelling
Speaker 2: and joy and I am almost in a fetal position
Speaker 2: on the floor because I am just getting indodated bite
Speaker 2: everything those animals were feeling. So it made life interesting.
Speaker 2: But it's a blessing, and it could be a curse
Speaker 2: if you don't understand how to tweak it and own
Speaker 2: it and make it your own.
Speaker 3: Yeah, super important. We talk a lot about boundaries and
Speaker 3: protection or shielding and yeah, yeah, super super important.
Speaker 1: And I had that experience at a rodeo even though
Speaker 1: I was raised in Oklahoma. The rodeo that I went
Speaker 1: to was actually in the Grand Tetons. It was some
Speaker 1: work figgie horseshit thing, and the first night was We're
Speaker 1: all going to a rodeo, and I was like, m
Speaker 1: So I went and I was in there three point
Speaker 1: two seconds and I left and I'm in tears and
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm in my late twenties or whatever
Speaker 1: I was, and I'm walking out of there and just
Speaker 1: utter devastation and could not handle because it was the
Speaker 1: it's that ethic part that I just I couldn't take.
Speaker 1: So I totally understand that. So I think what we
Speaker 1: probably need to do is taken another break and then
Speaker 1: let's talk about the professional side, because I think this
Speaker 1: is how this, this is all you know has been
Speaker 1: cueuing into what you do as an adult for a
Speaker 1: living and how you have can help other people and
Speaker 1: even things that you've developed that others haven't, so we'll
Speaker 1: be right back everybody, all.
Speaker 3: Right, welcome back everyone. I know, like I know, we
Speaker 3: could listen to your stories all day and be amazed
Speaker 3: and thrilled. And you know from your work because you
Speaker 3: have so many you've seen and served so many people
Speaker 3: and so many pets and wild animals and you know
Speaker 3: captive animals, and you know everything that you've done. I
Speaker 3: want to hear about how you've pulled it into like
Speaker 3: a systemic process that can really serve other you know,
Speaker 3: other people to understand what you're doing and how you
Speaker 3: engage in the world. I think people are going to
Speaker 3: be so excited about this, so can you tell us
Speaker 3: a little bit about that.
Speaker 2: Sure, I love these these pet personalities. I think, without
Speaker 2: exaggerating everybody, I tell them to get excited. So that's
Speaker 2: a confirmation to me that I'm not loopy lou and
Speaker 2: I'm just feeling my own, you know, awesomeness because I
Speaker 2: think I am awesome. I think we're all awesome. I
Speaker 2: think we need to own our awesomeness. But I think
Speaker 2: these pet personalities honestly will transform the world. They are
Speaker 2: so amazing and they are so transformative. But more than
Speaker 2: anything they speak to. I believe both sides of the brain.
Speaker 2: The problem with and I'm sure you ladies can understand
Speaker 2: this and have your own stories around it, but the
Speaker 2: problem with the metaphysical is it makes sense to the
Speaker 2: creative side of the brain. It okay, but a lot
Speaker 2: of it, A lot of people are fighting it with
Speaker 2: the cognizant or the conscious side of the brain, meaning
Speaker 2: the brain that's thinking too much, all right, and people fight.
Speaker 2: They're constantly questioning, they're constantly doubting, they're constantly you know,
Speaker 2: not sure or skeptical, or they're skeptical one minute and
Speaker 2: then they're believing the next minute, but then they're questioning
Speaker 2: what they're believing is. It's constant ping pong back and forth.
Speaker 2: The pet personalities are the animal dynamics makes sense to
Speaker 2: both sides of the brain. Because you're these techniques. You
Speaker 2: cannot dispute it. They're physical manifestations and physical confirmations that
Speaker 2: animal communication does exist. It is another form of animal communication.
Speaker 2: In fact, I'm going to say that it takes animal
Speaker 2: communication to a level it's never been done before. Because
Speaker 2: when you are doing these techniques, when you're petting an
Speaker 2: animal in a certain way specifically for their dynamic, and
Speaker 2: they are responding your I think it's the left brain,
Speaker 2: but if i'm not, please don't send me bad emails.
Speaker 2: But the left brain shuts the heck up because the
Speaker 2: left brain can't dispute that. The left brain is like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, I just pet that animal this way,
Speaker 2: that animal responds this way, or go.
Speaker 3: It's working right, it all gets synced up, right, it
Speaker 3: all lined, it.
Speaker 2: Gets a line. I've had clients who are totally incomplete skeptics.
Speaker 2: They still wanted to do the animal dynamic work with me,
Speaker 2: and I transformed the way they thought and they're just like,
Speaker 2: in their own words, they're just like, no, this makes
Speaker 2: sense to me. I understand this. I can get behind this,
Speaker 2: and I'm not doubting this. So basically, what it is
Speaker 2: is that for a lot of years I was doing
Speaker 2: animal communication and it was wonderful. It was a beautiful tool.
Speaker 2: I was doing healing work. It was doing I was
Speaker 2: doing what I call one and done single reading sessions
Speaker 2: where I would work anywhere between thirty minutes too, an hour,
Speaker 2: two two hours. Okay. But the problem with the animal
Speaker 2: communication eventually is is that you're trying to help an
Speaker 2: animal in that space of time, you're trying to get
Speaker 2: the answers to why they're doing what they're doing or
Speaker 2: how they're feeling, and then get to the end game
Speaker 2: or the end goal in that timeframe. So it's very constraint.
Speaker 2: And what was happening was I was very good at
Speaker 2: what I did. And that's not too to my horn.
Speaker 2: This is being honest. So I was very good at
Speaker 2: what I did, but it was kind of like throwing
Speaker 2: making spaghetti and throwing it out the wall and hoping
Speaker 2: it stuck.
Speaker 3: Yep. I could totally get that, Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what happened was was that I felt for
Speaker 2: a long time, eventually I felt like I had hit
Speaker 2: the glass ceiling with animal communication. I was gaining more information.
Speaker 2: I was getting certified in flower essences, which I love,
Speaker 2: and homeopathy which I love, and reiki which I love.
Speaker 2: So I was getting all these certifications. I was adding
Speaker 2: to my toolkit. So my toolkit was expanding outward sideways.
Speaker 2: It wasn't expanding upward. I had done all I could
Speaker 2: do with animal communication. There's just so much you can
Speaker 2: do with it.
Speaker 3: Well, because you're not moving it, yeah, and you're not
Speaker 3: moving in with them, right, So that's why.
Speaker 2: Right, and that, and you're taught it's talk therapy. You
Speaker 2: can only do talk therapy for so long and then
Speaker 2: you're you're just like, Okay, what else is there? But
Speaker 2: I wasn't able to find how to move it through
Speaker 2: the glass ceiling. So in twenty twenty, I started to
Speaker 2: see a pattern. All of a sudden, I got this
Speaker 2: download of and what I mean by download is all
Speaker 2: of a sudden for those people who don't know, is
Speaker 2: that you get this massive amount of information that just
Speaker 2: comes into your brain and I call it and.
Speaker 3: It's one big chunk, right, It's like one big chunk boom.
Speaker 3: It's clear.
Speaker 2: It's like all of a sudden the Wikipedia. You have
Speaker 2: this information and a Wikipedia. If information gets put into
Speaker 2: your brain and you don't know where it came from,
Speaker 2: it certainly I'm driving a car from from Colorado to
Speaker 2: Santa Fe. So it wasn't like I was reading a
Speaker 2: book and all of a sudden that it just all
Speaker 2: of a sudden just downloaded in. And I started to
Speaker 2: see the pattern of personalities of the animals that I
Speaker 2: spoke to. In the last year or so, I started
Speaker 2: going over some of the animals that I I talked
Speaker 2: to and I started to see a pattern.
Speaker 3: And I love that the all those sessions, right, the
Speaker 3: thousands of sessions that you did, created that opening for
Speaker 3: the download, right, because if it had just been downloaded,
Speaker 3: you'd been like, oh, that's interesting, but then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden you're like, oh, oh right, Like it's this
Speaker 3: multi layered thing that keeps opening as you as you
Speaker 3: open to it, it keeps opening more. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an AHA moment. I literally had to
Speaker 2: pull the car over. See, I was shaking so much
Speaker 2: with the bigness of what was happening.
Speaker 4: Safety first, So what happened was was that I the
Speaker 4: way that I was doing a session before was I
Speaker 4: would connect to a person's animal and I would get
Speaker 4: their personality.
Speaker 2: So I would say something like he's a little bit
Speaker 2: kind of like a California surfer dude, or a little
Speaker 2: bit of a diva or stuff like that there, and
Speaker 2: people would say, that's my animal. And that's how I
Speaker 2: knew that I had the right animal, and it would
Speaker 2: also confirm to people. So I started to think about
Speaker 2: those personalities and then I started to see a pattern,
Speaker 2: and then I started to bring those patterns into and
Speaker 2: evolved the dynamics into the work that I was doing
Speaker 2: because I was still doing single sessions. And so what
Speaker 2: happened is eventually the last dynamic that I discovered, the
Speaker 2: seventh dynamic there are seven of them, was discovered in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three when I connected to a client's horse.
Speaker 2: So right now, at this moment, there could be more, okay,
Speaker 2: but right now I'm quite happy with seven. So there
Speaker 2: are seven personalities for pets that also you could use
Speaker 2: for people. But it's also it's easier to use it
Speaker 2: for pets because pets are less. You know, they're complicated.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, they don't get offended like people do.
Speaker 2: God love us, okay, God love us. But we and
Speaker 2: when I say complicated, I don't mean we're smarter than animals.
Speaker 2: I mean that animals are simplistic in how they connect
Speaker 2: to life. They don't have the baggage we do.
Speaker 3: Well, they're authentic, right, yes, there's not. They don't play games,
Speaker 3: they don't pull punches, they.
Speaker 2: Don't they and they're super connected to what I call
Speaker 2: christ like consciousness love okay, which is connection to divinity, collection,
Speaker 2: connection to the stream of well being, connection to just
Speaker 2: feeling good. Okay, And we have a tendency to put
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff in front of the sine of field.
Speaker 3: I hadn't noticed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, So there are seven personality that you
Speaker 2: can use for animals. Each personality likes to be talked
Speaker 2: to differently, meaning used a different tone of voice, words
Speaker 2: and phrases that really speak to their personality. They like
Speaker 2: to be touched differently, they like to be interacted with.
Speaker 2: You can use the dynamics for the food that they
Speaker 2: like and why they like the things that they like
Speaker 2: in food wise, and the dynamics also answered the question
Speaker 2: of why your animal does what they do.
Speaker 3: So is this all in a book for us?
Speaker 1: I'll answer that not yet.
Speaker 2: It's coming. Okay, it's coming. But in the meantime I've
Speaker 2: done a lot of videos on the dynamics, so people
Speaker 2: can find that on YouTube with is my name?
Speaker 3: Okay? Okay.
Speaker 2: But the dynamics make it. They take your relationship with
Speaker 2: your animal to a totally different level, a level you
Speaker 2: can't get to without this knowledge because you don't understand
Speaker 2: that your animals personality is got plus traits and minus traits.
Speaker 2: So think of it like a gauge. The plus side
Speaker 2: of this gauge is all good. Okay, you're in the green.
Speaker 2: Everything's great, everything's working great. When your animals personality is
Speaker 2: in the minus part of the gauge, what starts happening
Speaker 2: is emotional issues can crop up, trauma, drama, unwanted behaviors,
Speaker 2: even physical issues can be tied to your animal's personality
Speaker 2: not being in the healthy plus state of the spectrum.
Speaker 3: Yep. And the thing is, without knowing, it can get worse, right,
Speaker 3: it can spiral out of control.
Speaker 2: It never gets better.
Speaker 3: Until it gets addressed in a healthy healing.
Speaker 2: It always gets worse. Think of it. I tell people
Speaker 2: think of it like a person meaning, think of the
Speaker 2: personality like a like your personality. So when you are
Speaker 2: in a happy go lucky, everything good, lottida happy, just
Speaker 2: go out and everything's good state of the world. You're
Speaker 2: meeting people with the same ideals. And even if you're not,
Speaker 2: you're smiling at him and you laughing at him. How
Speaker 2: you're doing. You know, nothing's bothering you. But when you're
Speaker 2: feeling let's take a really strong minus trait like depression
Speaker 2: that's hard to get out of. It can feel like
Speaker 2: you're drowning because your personality of course there's other things
Speaker 2: going on. There might be hormonal issues, there might be
Speaker 2: other things physically going on within your body. There might
Speaker 2: be trauma that you're going through. But what happened is
Speaker 2: that trauma pushed your personality into a minus spectrum. So
Speaker 2: you start going inward. You not expressing yourself to the
Speaker 2: world as you feel like you need to. Right, So,
Speaker 2: the more you go inward, unless that inward is a comforting,
Speaker 2: happy place, the more of a spiral you go down.
Speaker 2: So and it's the same with animals.
Speaker 3: Is that where most of your work resides with animals,
Speaker 3: like do you see animals who are just so? You know,
Speaker 3: in that diminished state that is that is that where
Speaker 3: most people come to you.
Speaker 2: Most people that I might not understand it. So a
Speaker 2: person will come to me.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming they didn't like and the vet can't help, right,
Speaker 3: The vet doesn't.
Speaker 2: Not yet, not until the book's out.
Speaker 1: Right there, not till the book is out.
Speaker 2: It's awesome, But if that is interested, I'm happy to
Speaker 2: tell them and talk to them about it. I think
Speaker 2: the vetinary, the vetinary industry, and I think the animal
Speaker 2: dynamics can do incredible work together.
Speaker 3: Well, my understanding with the vet industry is actually that
Speaker 3: they have a really high level of depression. And I
Speaker 3: think this is why, right, I think, like I see
Speaker 3: seminars with you teaching vets and having this way out there.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna. It has a possibility to not
Speaker 3: only help the animals, but to help the people who
Speaker 3: care for.
Speaker 2: Animals if they're open to them, because first.
Speaker 3: Of all, they're so desperate, right, desperate some other of.
Speaker 2: It, yeah, sometimes, but the veterinarian community no punitent. Look,
Speaker 2: I love vets, Okay, I'm not gonna, and I mean veterinarians, veterans.
Speaker 2: So I love veterans, and I love veterinarians. So the
Speaker 2: thing of it is is that but they're they're very
Speaker 2: they're kind of like the Ama. Okay, fair enough, all right,
Speaker 2: So they're a little boxed in and they're afraid to deviate.
Speaker 2: Now they have they have really grown leaves and bounds. Okay,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of veterinarians that are doing things like
Speaker 2: aqua therapy, acupuncture, homeopathy, Chinese herbs, things like that.
Speaker 3: They're amazing, amazing.
Speaker 2: But animal communication, nine times out of ten, when you
Speaker 2: bring it up with your vet, they are going to
Speaker 2: give you a look kind of like well, kind of
Speaker 2: like Homer's like that kind of look. Well, you know what,
Speaker 2: I would say that interesting.
Speaker 3: One of my coaching clients who's thirty years working in
Speaker 3: research and development at a very uh you know, fortune
Speaker 3: fifty company, and I was talking to her and she
Speaker 3: rides horses and she's like, the biggest stress in my
Speaker 3: life right now is that something's wrong with my horse.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. And I just asked her,
Speaker 3: point blank, have you tried working with an animal communicator?
Speaker 3: And she said, you know, I haven't done that in
Speaker 3: a long time. I should probably get back to that.
Speaker 3: And I was like, hell, yeah you should.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying people are more open to it, and
Speaker 3: you know, because.
Speaker 1: Here they are well. And I think I think a
Speaker 1: way that sometimes industry changes is when their clients push
Speaker 1: them to change. Because if there's enough people who meet you,
Speaker 1: read your book, understand this more, they will drive the
Speaker 1: change because the industry won't have a choice.
Speaker 2: Right that. I think so too. I think that's the
Speaker 2: way to go because if we rely on the vetinary industry,
Speaker 2: we're going to be waiting for a long time. I
Speaker 2: think the more people who speak up who say, no,
Speaker 2: this is the benefit for my animals. So you can
Speaker 2: think I'm a kuckaboo all you want to, But I'm
Speaker 2: going to ask about this. I'm going to ask about that.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say that my animal communicator got exactly
Speaker 2: But I tell people, look, I am not a vet.
Speaker 2: I was a VET tech, so I have that background. However,
Speaker 2: I am an empathic sensor. So don't rely on me. Okay,
Speaker 2: first take your animal to the vet. And then once
Speaker 2: you take them to the vet and they get the results,
Speaker 2: and if they can't find anything or you want me
Speaker 2: to coincide with what the vet is saying, great, but
Speaker 2: don't rely on me solely because I don't want that responsibility.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, I think you know I would do
Speaker 3: it the other way. I'd go to you first and
Speaker 3: then go into the event and go I have this information.
Speaker 3: That's how I left.
Speaker 1: I would do the same thing. You know, by the way,
Speaker 1: Coriel mets I understood that. But you know Coriel Metsuki
Speaker 1: and nailed Zuki like this boom, like seconds. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: knew exactly who Suki was. And also Siki was crawling
Speaker 1: on me as well, because we'll know he's a sweet pumpkin.
Speaker 2: But the dynamics can now be when they are published. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's going to happen. I promise when they are published,
Speaker 2: they are going to make sense to everyone because you
Speaker 2: can't dispute it. The techniques I've developed will show you
Speaker 2: how to touch your animal specifically. So excited, right, that's
Speaker 2: personality and so the reason that So let me use
Speaker 2: my own animal as an example. Really quick. I have
Speaker 2: a cat by the name of Sacred. She's amazing. Okay,
Speaker 2: she's beautiful. She's amazing. She's an ngoor, she's black, she's
Speaker 2: she helped me actually develop the sensory dynamics.
Speaker 3: She's a fancy cat. She is a fancy she's a
Speaker 3: fancy cat.
Speaker 2: She got fancy pants. So what would happen was and
Speaker 2: I'm an animal communicator, so this is before I developed
Speaker 2: the dynamics. I would pick her up because of course
Speaker 2: you want to pick up your animal, you know, and
Speaker 2: hold her. I would pick her up and hold her always.
Speaker 2: I want to use the wording, but that's probably not
Speaker 2: the right wording. It would always be interesting. So I
Speaker 2: would hold her really tight, and she would cry I
Speaker 2: was killing her it.
Speaker 3: Was too tight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it us a good, good, good tribe. But
Speaker 2: this is what was going on. So I would hold
Speaker 2: her tight tight, not really tight, I'm not gonna, but
Speaker 2: enough to support her. And I was that got you,
Speaker 2: You're okay. And she it would always go on and
Speaker 2: I would let her down. She'd scratch me. It was
Speaker 2: a shit chotus, my friend, sorry, everybody used to it.
Speaker 2: So what happened was I developed the dynamics. One of
Speaker 2: the personalities, the first personalities was the sensory, and I
Speaker 2: understood that the sensory does not like to be rushed.
Speaker 2: They don't. They like to move in their time. They
Speaker 2: expect that everybody moves in their time. So what happened
Speaker 2: was I was going over to sacred whenever I felt
Speaker 2: like it, whenever I you know, I want, I want
Speaker 2: to be held, I want to be cuddled, I want
Speaker 2: to be supported, I want to be loved. And it
Speaker 2: was in my time, it was in her time. So
Speaker 2: now what I do is I picked her. I let
Speaker 2: her know, and I ask her permission. I ask her,
Speaker 2: you know, we have different signs, and now I pick
Speaker 2: her up.
Speaker 3: No problem, you just gotta let her know.
Speaker 2: I gotta let her know. But I don't go over
Speaker 2: Willie Nilly and just pick her up because it's going
Speaker 2: to be awful. So the personalities, you can't dispute that.
Speaker 2: There's nothing you could dismay. You can't say, well, maybe
Speaker 2: I made it up because you pick her up again,
Speaker 2: asking permission, and you pick her up nicely in her time,
Speaker 2: and there's no problem. She doesn't scratch me nothing. You
Speaker 2: can't dispute that. Your logical mind is like, aha, this
Speaker 2: is that's my really bad Einstein.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 2: Ill for me. Allow of that books. You know, I
Speaker 2: actually sound like doctor Ruth I.
Speaker 1: Think, and it was totally doctor Ruth move.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 3: That's awesome, a great story. Well, I know, I can't
Speaker 3: wait for this book to come out. And it has
Speaker 3: just been such a joy to speak with you and
Speaker 3: get to know you. I've heard wonderful stories and I
Speaker 3: can't wait to hear more and more and more when
Speaker 3: the book comes out.
Speaker 1: I'm excited too, and I think, forell you know, do
Speaker 1: you want to let everybody know how they can get
Speaker 1: in touch with you if they.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I make it pretty easy once you learn
Speaker 2: how to spell my name, so everything is pretty much
Speaker 2: under my name. My YouTube channel is under my name,
Speaker 2: my first name, and my last name. Facebook, you can
Speaker 2: find me under my first name my last name. You
Speaker 2: can send me an email at mail at Coriolcreamer dot com.
Speaker 2: My website is Coriolcramer dot com.
Speaker 3: So we will put all that in the Show's easy.
Speaker 3: So Caryll just one more question. You know, knowing that
Speaker 3: you've had such a rich background in working with people
Speaker 3: and working as the healer, working with animals, working as
Speaker 3: a healer, what's the work that you like the most
Speaker 3: to do. What is it like most rewarding or the
Speaker 3: least exhausting, even for you, I.
Speaker 2: Would say that more than likely it would be the Dynamics.
Speaker 2: I love them. I think they are so easy, they
Speaker 2: are so transformative. People have told me again and again,
Speaker 2: and you can go to the website and read the testimonials.
Speaker 2: Don't believe my word for it. Take there, don't take
Speaker 2: my word for it, believe theirs. And this is changing
Speaker 2: the way people's relationship, which is already awesome, it's making
Speaker 2: it even more awesomer. I don't even think that's a word,
Speaker 2: but I'm going with it anywhere.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 1: It's today.
Speaker 2: It takes it to another level, and I think That's
Speaker 2: where I get the most rewarding because it's not me
Speaker 2: doing it. Yes, I developed the dynamics, I developed the personalities,
Speaker 2: I developed the touches, I developed the word, tone of
Speaker 2: voice and all that. But I give that to you,
Speaker 2: and you're the one putting it into play. So you're
Speaker 2: actually the one who's bringing your animals personality in a
Speaker 2: more healthier state. I'm not doing anything. It's all the
Speaker 2: magics in you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you you showed us the magical way. So
Speaker 3: thank you for being the perfect channel to bring to this,
Speaker 3: this to the planet right now. It's just perfect.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you, so thanks for
Speaker 3: listening to everyone. And I just want to let you
Speaker 3: know my else having a little bit of a technical glitch.
Speaker 3: But are you back.
Speaker 1: I think so, kind of think kind of sort of yes,
Speaker 1: maybe it's a little dicey, but yeah, little dicey okay.
Speaker 3: So thank you Carriel, and remember her school.
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