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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. My name is

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Speaker 2: rich bart And Leslie McGuirk is an astrologer and author

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Speaker 2: and a teacher who translates astrology into clear, practical guidance

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Speaker 2: for everyday life using a grounded approach. She explores astrology

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Speaker 2: as a system of pattern recognition, of recognition, excuse me

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Speaker 2: that helps people make sense of why they react, struggle

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Speaker 2: and behave the way they do. It is so nice

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Speaker 2: to meet you, Leslie. Welcome to Coast to Coast AM.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm great, I'm excited to talk to you tonight.

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Speaker 2: I have so many questions. Can we get right right

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Speaker 2: into them? Let's just get right into the heart of it.

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Speaker 2: Please do Why do you feel that some of us

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Speaker 2: seem like we are more connected, more I would say,

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Speaker 2: emotional about the things that go on in the world,

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Speaker 2: are maybe more sensitive to the world, where others don't

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Speaker 2: seem affected by it at all. Anything, everything's just the

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Speaker 2: way it normally is.

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Speaker 4: I think the majority of people feel extremely stressed out

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Speaker 4: right now. Everyone I'm talking to is feeling the effects

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Speaker 4: of what I believe are these planetary weather patterns. We

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Speaker 4: are definitely under the influence of those planets, which are

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Speaker 4: basically rocks in space, and some people think it's crazy

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Speaker 4: to imagine that those planets have.

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Speaker 3: An influence on us.

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Speaker 4: But all you have to do is think about the Moon.

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Speaker 4: You were just talking about a hotel being put on there,

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Speaker 4: which I think would you go never because the scenery

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Speaker 4: is boring.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 4: You could not very interesting. No, I would never have

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Speaker 4: any interest there.

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Speaker 2: But that could be like like the broad More in

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Speaker 2: Colorado Springs, which every angle that you look at is gorgeous,

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Speaker 2: and then you're just spend million dollars.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no there's no trees, there, no no beautiful

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Speaker 4: mountains to look at, so I would pass.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I also sorry. So these planets, they have.

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Speaker 4: A cycle that they go through, like the Moon, and

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Speaker 4: everyone knows that the moon is regulating every body of

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Speaker 4: water on planet Earth, and we're about eighty percent water,

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Speaker 4: so we are under the influence of those cycles of

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Speaker 4: the Moon and everyone feels them. All you have to

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Speaker 4: do is go to a hospital or police station or

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Speaker 4: a school. The animals react. My dogs are definitely more

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Speaker 4: activated during full moons. So if you extrapolate it out

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Speaker 4: to all the other rocks in space. They're all influencing us,

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Speaker 4: and I think that astrology is more about realizing the

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Speaker 4: patterns that these planets cause and how they are affecting

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Speaker 4: our timing, our temperament, our experiences. It's a lot like

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Speaker 4: music in that some people may act as if their

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Speaker 4: tone deaf and they don't care about music at all,

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Speaker 4: but most people will feel something when they listen to

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Speaker 4: certain types of music. Some music is very agitating and

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Speaker 4: some music calms down. And music is invisible, and astrology

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Speaker 4: is somewhat invisible as well. It's something that's interpreted and

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Speaker 4: it definitely has an influence on every single one of us,

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Speaker 4: especially right now.

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Speaker 3: It's brutal what we're going through.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting. So as sort of a curious skeptic, which

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of an open minded curious skeptic, so things

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Speaker 2: like psychics, I can kind of see through that a

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Speaker 2: little bit, especially being married to a wife whose family

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Speaker 2: grew up in magic, so they can point out the

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Speaker 2: scam to everything, except for there's something about astrology where

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like what I hear. What I've been

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Speaker 2: understanding as of late, is when you were born kind

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Speaker 2: of gives you the ingredients of why you are who

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Speaker 2: you say that repeat. So it seems a lot less

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Speaker 2: woo woo, in a lot more just scientific.

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Speaker 4: It is absolutely scientific, but it's an esoteric science.

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Speaker 3: It's an interpreted science. Very similar to acupuncture. You could

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Speaker 3: go to twenty different acupuncturist and get a completely different result.

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Speaker 3: You can go to twenty astrologers get a different result,

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Speaker 3: but the principles are very similar in that we have

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Speaker 3: an electromagnetic body. We live in an electro magnetic universe.

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Speaker 3: When an acupuncturist is putting needles in you, they're trying

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Speaker 3: to recalibrate your chi and get you into alignment so

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Speaker 3: that you can flow.

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Speaker 4: The same is exactly true with astrology. If done correctly,

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Speaker 4: all an astrologer is doing is honoring your firing system

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Speaker 4: and helping you to be aligned at the highest frequency possible. So,

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Speaker 4: if you think about it like music, as I said before,

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Speaker 4: job to play it at the highest level possible. But

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Speaker 4: it's very difficult if you have a complicated musical score,

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Speaker 4: which would be a very gnarly astrology chart, which is what.

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Speaker 3: I was born with and I'm a cancer.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but it doesn't tell you enough that. This is

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Speaker 4: the problem with most people who talk about astrology. They

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Speaker 4: want to know your sun's sign. Knowing your sun sign

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Speaker 4: is like asking, Okay, I drive a Ford, but are

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Speaker 4: you driving a Mustang? Are you driving an F one fifty?

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Speaker 4: There's not enough information there. What we really should be

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Speaker 4: asking is what is your moon sign? Because your moon

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Speaker 4: sign is going to tell me a lot more about

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Speaker 4: what you're like at an emotional level.

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Speaker 3: See the reason.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard that before. I've always I've always heard

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Speaker 2: the what so I'm a Pisces, and oh, well, you

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Speaker 2: must be emotional and i'm and I'm very music driven.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's my whole life is music, playing music,

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Speaker 2: listening to music. And when you I even would when

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Speaker 2: I used to get before I was married, when I

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Speaker 2: would date, if people didn't like the same music as me,

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Speaker 2: I'd almost think there was something wrong with them. I'd

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Speaker 2: look at that as like, oh, that's a red flag

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Speaker 2: that they if they don't get emotional hearing Peter Gabriel

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Speaker 2: in your eyes, then they are dead to the world.

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Speaker 2: But you know, some people don't feel that the way

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Speaker 2: other people feel that.

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Speaker 4: That's a beautiful analogy for understanding astrology because since you

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Speaker 4: love music, there's in music, there's the staff, correct, and

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Speaker 4: then you plug those musical notes into that system.

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Speaker 4: In astrology, we have a wheel which is basically like

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Speaker 4: the aperture and your camera, and we take a picture

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Speaker 4: of where all the planets are at the moment you

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Speaker 4: take your first breath, and we plug those planets into

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Speaker 4: the wheel, which is just a circle three hundred and

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Speaker 4: sixty degrees. It's divided into twelve different segments, and then

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Speaker 4: these planets PLoP into this system, and an astrologer is

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Speaker 4: basically playing your piece of music. So you get to

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Speaker 4: hear with words, how you were designed, what your pattern is,

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Speaker 4: what your frequency is, and it's nothing more or less

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Speaker 4: than that. But it's incredibly accurate esoteric science, and if done.

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Speaker 3: Correctly, what it does is it gives.

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Speaker 4: People a sense to finally be seen and that they realize,

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Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I'm not crazy. Yes, I'm a Pisce's

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Speaker 4: but if your moon is insagittarius, it means that you're

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Speaker 4: not as emotional as a Pisce's person because think about it,

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Speaker 4: moon regulates water, so tears or water. That's why the

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Speaker 4: moon is connected with emotions. But if it's in a

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Speaker 4: fire sign likee Vegittarius or Ares, then fire evaporates water.

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Speaker 4: People who have those placements tend to want to evaporate

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Speaker 4: I believe that knowing your moon sign is way more

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Speaker 4: important than knowing your sun sign.

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Speaker 2: When you look at people in how they are, how

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Speaker 2: that's emotional or maybe you're slightly ocd. How much of

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Speaker 2: that do you feel like has to do with when

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Speaker 2: do with just you know, the neighborhood you grew up in,

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Speaker 2: the the you know how your parents treated you, if

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Speaker 2: I don't know, trauma response from your life in how

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Speaker 2: much of it is you just are how you are.

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Speaker 3: It's a combination of both.

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Speaker 4: So I like to look at people as if they're cars,

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Speaker 4: and we are given an owner's manual in your car

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Speaker 4: Astrology is exactly the same. It's just the owner's manual,

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Speaker 4: not just it's a big deal to know that we

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Speaker 4: actually have an owner's manual.

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Speaker 3: What an incredibly beautiful thing on this planet.

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Speaker 4: To know we have such a thing. Most people don't

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Speaker 4: understand it as that. They think of it more as

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Speaker 4: fortune telling. That owner's manual cannot predict the future, but

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Speaker 4: if you look at it one way, it sort of does.

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Speaker 3: Because if I see that you're a.

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Speaker 4: Diesel engine and you tell me you're putting gas in

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Speaker 4: your car, I can predict you're going to break down.

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Speaker 3: But when we.

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Speaker 4: Look at astrology as a owner's manual, you have free will.

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Speaker 4: You can do whatever you want with what I tell

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Speaker 4: you is in your glove compartment owner's manual.

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Speaker 3: So you're driving your own car.

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Speaker 4: And then you also have to deal with all the

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Speaker 4: you also have the weather because every day, hey, the

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Speaker 4: the last several years, I have been dealing with Uranus,

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Speaker 4: the planet of unexpected events. It's been in the sign

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Speaker 4: going to be living under incredible stress. Because Urinus is

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Speaker 4: don't know if it's going to be unexpected good or

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Speaker 4: unexpected bad. But when we know that this pattern is,

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Speaker 3: So I started to do a lot more yoga, a.

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Speaker 4: Lot more gardening, anything I could do to counteract the

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Speaker 4: high frequency of that Uranian energy.

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Speaker 2: but then you talked about your Mars too. That matters

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the inner planet. So there's the sun, which

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Speaker 4: tells me what kind of car you are, what brand

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Speaker 4: you are. The moon tells me how you react with

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Speaker 4: your emotion. So when I'm teaching a live class, I

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Speaker 4: move people around the room according to their moon signs,

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Speaker 4: and all the fire moon people go on one side

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Speaker 3: And then there's water and earth.

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Speaker 4: Now, water and earth get along really well because in

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Speaker 4: nature they like each other. A plant needs water, the

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Speaker 4: there's we just got stuck in an elevator, and how

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Speaker 4: I would love to have a moon air person do

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Speaker 4: So I call astrology the language of compassion, because when

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Speaker 4: That's what you just said about the people with the

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Speaker 4: music taste, like, how can you not like that? It's

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Speaker 3: You love, it would be difficult for you to be.

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Speaker 4: Married to that person because you're just coming from a

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of my favorite things to do because

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Speaker 3: Yes, you can see.

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Speaker 4: So we have to have a few things covered when

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Speaker 4: I'm with someone who has their moon in air, this

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Speaker 4: I say, you're like a little If you're an earth

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Speaker 4: And if your partner has their moon and air, they're

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Speaker 4: and the bird is looking at you, like, what are

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Speaker 3: That's not what I do.

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Speaker 4: I'm up here observing everything from a higher perve. And

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Speaker 4: it's not that the bird is wrong or the puppy

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