Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of bar
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Speaker 1: uh reference to the Coen Brothers movie, which is also
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Speaker 1: hey hey, so uh these are some of the things
Speaker 1: that are trending on this Tuesday afternoon. We talked, of course,
Speaker 1: yesterday that Trump's bond that he was supposedly getting from
Speaker 1: rich uh In Chubb CEO did not clear.
Speaker 2: Son of ai G. I forgot about that little detail.
Speaker 2: Ai G was his dad ran Aig.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: So yeah, run the up and up.
Speaker 1: Self made man. But so it's looking like he might
Speaker 1: have to be fucked get all his so back in February,
Speaker 1: I just like this little uh you know. Back in February,
Speaker 1: Trump's lawyer Elena Haba went on Newsmax and when asked like, oh,
Speaker 1: so this is a lot of money, nervously laughed off
Speaker 1: suggestions that his properties could be seen stating there will
Speaker 1: be a bond and there will be no issues with that.
Speaker 1: Well it turns out there are some issues with that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of issues.
Speaker 2: I mean, we said, no company in their right mind
Speaker 2: is like give some freak a half billion dollars with
Speaker 2: a track record of fucking just skating on his debts. Yeah,
Speaker 2: fuck that, even if there was backed by assets or whatever.
Speaker 2: And yeah, now it's just going full screaming because the
Speaker 2: clock is ticking, y'all. It's a it's Monday, this Monday,
Speaker 2: March twenty fifth. Everything is about to go on sale
Speaker 2: in Trump world if you believe all the shit that
Speaker 2: he's saying on truth Social. This is what I look again,
Speaker 2: We honestly we don't know who's gonna bail him out
Speaker 2: or what's gonna happen, but we love to see when
Speaker 2: the true panic sets in and he does like seventy
Speaker 2: pages worth of screaming on truth Social because it's just
Speaker 2: Judge Eggern actually wants me to put up hundreds of
Speaker 2: millions of dollars for the right to appeal his ridiculous decision.
Speaker 2: In other words, he's trying to make take my appellate
Speaker 2: rights away. That's not true. Nobody's ever heard anything like
Speaker 2: this before. That's not true. I would be forced to
Speaker 2: mortgage or so great assets. I love that that's capitalized
Speaker 2: great assets GNA, perhaps at fire sale prices.
Speaker 3: And if and when I win the appill they would
Speaker 3: be gone. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Which an election interference goes fucking on and on and
Speaker 2: on and on like a like a nearly unbelievable amount
Speaker 2: for even Donald Trump, which makes me believe, man, there's
Speaker 2: no takers for this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like he's kind of in a tough spot. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And there's also like there's even talk now that
Speaker 2: he's like, I gotta get I gotta get Paul Mannifort
Speaker 2: back in here to help me win again.
Speaker 1: He's talking getting old gang back together. Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's not a good look.
Speaker 2: Man. That isn't a good look. And I wish you
Speaker 2: all the worst financially, sir, and hope that no one
Speaker 2: swoops to your rescue, although I'm sure on some level
Speaker 2: somebody will.
Speaker 1: But as hard as it's going to be to see
Speaker 1: this guy elected president again, at least it's good to
Speaker 1: see that some of the you know, bullying and financial
Speaker 1: crimes that he's spent his life, just having an unfair
Speaker 1: advantage him, like getting the unfair advantage taken away, like
Speaker 1: getting to watch him like come to terms with that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we we will see, we will see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we keep talking Forty Wall Street, which but
Speaker 1: that one's only valued at two hundred and twenty million dollars.
Speaker 1: It makes less than half what he owes. So Trump Tower,
Speaker 1: which you know, that's kind of what that's known as
Speaker 1: that that might be on the on the blocks.
Speaker 2: You messually, some petty like other billionaire who like like
Speaker 2: George Soros buys it, right, and he's like, yeah, you
Speaker 2: got my fucking rent full.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Steve Minuchin comes in, He's like, actually, I'm good
Speaker 1: on TikTok let me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just gonna own I'm gonna own your ass.
Speaker 1: Donald all right. Uh So there's an article in the
Speaker 1: New York Times about how private equity is. It's basically
Speaker 1: the dynamic that we talked about with private equity taking
Speaker 1: over everything from you know, retail like Toys, r Us
Speaker 1: and Jay Crew and just putting them out of business,
Speaker 1: to nursing homes. Well, that process is underway within the
Speaker 1: music industry. Basically, private equity companies are buying old catalogs.
Speaker 1: You might have seen all these headliness like Bob Dylan
Speaker 1: just sold his song catalog for three hundred and basically
Speaker 1: their way of monetizing this is to try to like
Speaker 1: build media universes on the backs of like legacy artists
Speaker 1: and their old songs without investing in anything new, because
Speaker 1: that's obviously risky.
Speaker 2: So we own the rights and then we'll tink with
Speaker 2: the fact that we are the rights holders. We will
Speaker 2: just find ways to iterate on it and make more money,
Speaker 2: like an FT or something like that, but we own
Speaker 2: the rights.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the all the money and energy is going
Speaker 1: to be going towards making money off of old music essentially,
Speaker 1: and you will have to discover new music on your own.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know. Every couple years somebody will like naturally,
Speaker 1: like organically get big and like there will be some
Speaker 1: new music. But it's not gonna be a lot of it.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be showing up in the places that
Speaker 1: we're used to seeing music show up. So this person
Speaker 1: who is like kind of an industry expert wrote in
Speaker 1: The New York Times. Historically, record labels and music publishers
Speaker 1: could use the royalties from their older hits to underwrite
Speaker 1: risky bets on unproven talent. But why quote would you
Speaker 1: spend your time trying to create something new at the
Speaker 1: expense of your catalog, asked Merk Curiotes, the former manager
Speaker 1: of Beyonce and Elton John who founded Hypnosis. The gnosis
Speaker 1: there spelled g n o sis like the you know wisdom,
Speaker 1: the feminine wisdom of ancient Greece, and so instead, self
Speaker 1: styled disruptors can strip mine old hits and turn them
Speaker 1: into new ones. Nearly four years ago, the publicly traded
Speaker 1: Hypnosis song bought a fifty percent stake in the funk
Speaker 1: star Rick James's catalog, which includes a Super Freak. To
Speaker 1: monetize its prize, Hypnosis found a lightly modernized update of
Speaker 1: Super Freak, had Nicki Minaja assemble a songwriting crew, and
Speaker 1: while in twenty twenty two, Miss Minaj's Super Freaky Girl,
Speaker 1: essentially the pop rap superstar rapping over Super Freak, became
Speaker 1: her first number one single that wasn't a joint release,
Speaker 1: and Hypnosis trumpeted the win in its annual report. So,
Speaker 1: which like that kind of like I remember at the
Speaker 1: time being like this feels a little cynical, but it's
Speaker 1: just kind of like rapping over and old. But that's
Speaker 1: because it was conceived in a boardroom to be something
Speaker 1: to brag about on a quarterly earnings call.
Speaker 2: That's what's so wild about that one. Is it sort
Speaker 2: of like no, yeah, like we it's not that like
Speaker 2: we're artists or like yeah, hey, we own this right,
Speaker 2: we own the rights of this song. Make that relevant
Speaker 2: again so we can make money off of it. Go yeah, thanks.
Speaker 1: But it's kind of it reminds me of like it's
Speaker 1: kind of the same values at work as with AI.
Speaker 1: Like the one thing they can't account for is creativity
Speaker 1: because creativity is like unpredictable and like it's a thing
Speaker 1: that they can't do, and so it like throws the
Speaker 1: power balance into an uncomfortable position for them, and like
Speaker 1: you can't put it on a spreadsheet. So they're always
Speaker 1: looking for ways to like drum it out of creative industries.
Speaker 3: But I own the ideas of creating people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you're if you're wondering like what this
Speaker 1: is going to look like, it's basically going to be
Speaker 1: like we already got all this old shit, Let's make
Speaker 1: movies out of it, Like let's build the Arista cinematic universe, right,
Speaker 1: So I just want to read some of the music
Speaker 1: biopics that are in the works, because we already talked
Speaker 1: about the Beatles cinematic universe, where that would be a
Speaker 1: different movie for each Beatle released within like a couple
Speaker 1: of years of each other. We've also got Michael Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson biopic coming next year starring his nephew, uh and
Speaker 1: directed by what's that? Who's the guy who directed like
Speaker 1: the professional and uh.
Speaker 3: Oh uh Luke Besson?
Speaker 1: Maybe I have that wrong, directed by Anyways, we got
Speaker 1: Michael Michael Jackson biopic coming next year starring his nephew
Speaker 1: Back to Black Winehouse Anton who Yeah, I got my
Speaker 1: French directors next up back to Black Famy Winehouse biopick
Speaker 1: Martin Scorsese, Jonah Hill biopick about Jerry Garcia, announced in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, is supposedly in the works. Piano Man
Speaker 1: about a half man, half piano cyborg transform. Sorry, no, wait,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a billy Joel biopick.
Speaker 2: No, it's not a guy who has beiten by radio
Speaker 2: active piano.
Speaker 1: That's right. I eagerly await the Caitlyn Dorante tweet, Keith
Speaker 1: Moon biopick, The Begi's biopick, Boy George, Bob, Dylan, John
Speaker 1: and Yoko not to be confused with the previously mentioned
Speaker 1: Beatle Cinematic universe. So this one is like Joker to
Speaker 1: the Batman movies with like Yoko as the Joker, the Yoker,
Speaker 1: the It's just and the the Joker. The title of
Speaker 1: that article is ten upcoming music biopick You need to
Speaker 1: be excited about whoa easy fuck you just because you know,
Speaker 1: now the online media outlets have all been hollowed out
Speaker 1: by private equity and neo capitalism, so they're just like
Speaker 1: passing along orders from you need to.
Speaker 2: Be excited about this or you will not fit in,
Speaker 2: you will be ostracized.
Speaker 1: You need to be We need you to be excited.
Speaker 1: We're kind of fucked here, Okay. Yeah, but like the
Speaker 1: Dylan biopic is like starring Timothy Shallome and it's you know, excited.
Speaker 2: I just saw that there's like a picture from the set.
Speaker 1: The pictures you're going viral, like ging Dylan in the
Speaker 1: in the Village.
Speaker 2: It's just there's not enough time to do. Biopics are
Speaker 2: just they always fucking suck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just suck.
Speaker 3: I just don't know what.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to say this, Like no, like
Speaker 2: half the time that people are too cool in the
Speaker 2: in the viewer's mind for any actor to like encapsulate
Speaker 2: how cool they are or interesting. I don't know, but hey,
Speaker 2: go ahead, I'm sure. But again, it's again, it's the
Speaker 2: least creative way to chum the waters to get people
Speaker 2: to buy tickets, where it's like, well, how many Bob
Speaker 2: Dylan fans are there, Well, then make a movie so
Speaker 2: they must go see it. How many I'll be Bob
Speaker 2: Marley fans. Then you must make a movie so they
Speaker 2: must go see it.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, And then people get excited about the music
Speaker 1: and they can stream that, so they're just it's always
Speaker 1: of finding too. It's all of them finding ways to
Speaker 1: profit off of existing music that has been brought up
Speaker 1: by private equity, and it's just going to be you know,
Speaker 1: there was this phenomenon where like people stopped going to
Speaker 1: see live music from anyone who was like under the
Speaker 1: age of fifty a long time ago, prior to Taylor Swift,
Speaker 1: and I think we're seeing that with like AllMusic. Basically
Speaker 1: we're just going to see a real, doubling down on
Speaker 1: songs that are by the elderly and recently deceased.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, maybe there'll be something cool soon.
Speaker 1: Problem. Yeah, no, it'll probably be cool like that. Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson also.
Speaker 2: Antolin, not France.
Speaker 3: He's from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: It's gonna sat that part is American.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. And Tom all right, but he's he's doing
Speaker 1: you say you say Pittsburgh, How you say brothers? I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's just my wife is French and so
Speaker 1: I just got oh wait, she's also from Pittsburgh. What
Speaker 1: the fuck?
Speaker 3: What's going on? All the French people in Pittsburgh? Man?
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, let's take a quick break and we
Speaker 1: will be right back. And we're back.
Speaker 3: Hey, we're back.
Speaker 1: And have you watched Irish Wish yet?
Speaker 2: You gotta ask, bro, have you did you do it?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Motherfucker, I watched Irish Wish?
Speaker 3: Did you really?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed by your commitment to these this level
Speaker 1: of film.
Speaker 2: My baby can't read, but I have seen Irish Wish.
Speaker 1: Your baby is one. Your baby shouldn't be able to read?
Speaker 2: Well, someone was shaming me saying the baby should be
Speaker 2: reading by now? Who I don't know little man Tate's mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, timely reference little bit.
Speaker 3: I thought forever.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I still remember like he like, she's like,
Speaker 1: why do you keep saying that word? And then sees
Speaker 1: that it's written on the bottom of like her coffee
Speaker 1: cup or something, and then from macquarie got the idea
Speaker 1: for the end of Usual Suspects.
Speaker 2: Oh man, holy shit, Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your baby doesn't be reading like.
Speaker 2: I That's what I said, City of Los Angeles back.
Speaker 1: Up kindergardens, like they're still learning to read.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm joking, but I wouldn't. Maybe I wasn't
Speaker 2: joking that I was crying with tears in my eyes, saying,
Speaker 2: why won't you just read my script? But that's neither
Speaker 2: here nor there. But yeah, no, I watched it. I
Speaker 2: watched it because, yeah, the guy's child was actually sick.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you, folks, have my first bout
Speaker 2: with a.
Speaker 3: Baby with a fever. Uh, it's not easy. You can't.
Speaker 2: You're just chill, just like, lay down, man, just sleep
Speaker 2: it off like I would as an adult.
Speaker 1: Rather than be like they do not want to?
Speaker 3: Yeah, can't you behold them? And shit?
Speaker 1: Like just like all your body needs is rest? And
Speaker 1: you refuse and.
Speaker 2: You want to harlem shake. Yeah, that's what you want
Speaker 2: to do. You want to be fucking crumping all day
Speaker 2: in pain. Anyway, So I watched it. It's fucking's zact.
Speaker 2: Oh wait really well, it's just one of those It's
Speaker 2: a shitty like movie, holiday esque film, right cause it's
Speaker 2: like it's like sort of vaguely about Saint Patrick's Day.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also pretty sure no Irish people in the movie, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I think there's like maybe one or two. But like
Speaker 2: it takes place in Ireland, and like this dude is
Speaker 2: supposed to be Irish, his family's like English.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe there's some like other geopolitical shit I'm
Speaker 2: not catching here. They'll be like, oh yeah, man, Like
Speaker 2: they're still like a presser so they still be like
Speaker 2: laughing it up in their little castles and shit.
Speaker 1: I mean the one line that I did see that
Speaker 1: went viral was when Lindsay Lohan says, it is on
Speaker 1: the Cliffs of More, which is on the west coast
Speaker 1: of Ireland, is like very rustic, you know, a bunch
Speaker 1: of sheep farms and then these beautiful dramatic cliffs and
Speaker 1: she says, wow, I feel like I stepped into a
Speaker 1: James Joyce novel.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: The guy's like, wow, I'm so impressed by that literary reference.
Speaker 1: Pepys wrote about fucking Dublin. He wrote like Urban wins.
Speaker 3: It's like, could it be more about Dublin.
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, James Joyce is my favorite.
Speaker 2: I read this piece in Vulture that I thought was
Speaker 2: interesting is a very It took a very sort of
Speaker 2: sarcastic tone, but the thrust of it was sort of
Speaker 2: essentially saying like they're trying to prepare people for like
Speaker 2: the coming ai script writing boom where nothing is good
Speaker 2: and doesn't make sense, but we'll be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe this is fucking fine.
Speaker 1: It just from human eyes.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And it was said in jest, but I thought it
Speaker 2: was like an interesting take. But anyway, it's it's it's
Speaker 2: like so bad it doesn't make sense. There's like this
Speaker 2: like Irish lady who grants her a wish? Basically Lindsay
Speaker 2: Lohan is a ghostwriter for this novelist Paul Kennedy.
Speaker 1: Of course it was very literary. She loves Jim's choice.
Speaker 3: Dude, obviously.
Speaker 2: That's why That's what I feel like when I'm here
Speaker 2: on the cliffs of More, but Dublin not so much.
Speaker 3: I felt like I didn't know where I was.
Speaker 1: When somebody pointed out it would be like an Irish
Speaker 1: character wandering around Times Square and being like, wow, I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm in the grapes of wrath.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, this America was like, yeah, wonderful, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the movies, like she she works with this
Speaker 2: like author that she's like secretly in love with, and
Speaker 2: then she wishes that she was actually married, she was
Speaker 2: getting married to him rather than her best friend, and
Speaker 2: then with a snap of the wind, she wakes up
Speaker 2: in like the new reality where she's gonna marry this dude,
Speaker 2: and then realize that she doesn't. It's not worth your time, right,
Speaker 2: So I wasted my own for you, and that.
Speaker 1: Is why thank you for doing that. Yeah, Irish getting
Speaker 1: sounds like it should be insulting, Like it sounds like
Speaker 1: it should be no.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like anytime you use like a nation as a
Speaker 2: modifier for a normal word, it always feels like it's
Speaker 2: there's no way around it. It's like, yeah, Irish, wish fucking.
Speaker 1: Something to CEO. You would be like I would like
Speaker 1: a raising. Your CEO would be like that sounds like
Speaker 1: an Irish wish to me. Akay, it ain't happen in
Speaker 1: pal Yeah, how about this?
Speaker 2: How about I offer you instead some Japanese ice cream
Speaker 2: and you're like, I don't know, is that an insult?
Speaker 3: I have no clue, but.
Speaker 1: They all over is fucking Japanese ice cream, if you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It looks just like ice cream. Yeah, but it's from
Speaker 2: ship Pain. It's like tasty or something. I don't know ever,
Speaker 2: I don't know, man.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's perfect. The Grapes of Dime Square. It's
Speaker 3: like it.
Speaker 2: Feels because that's again, it has like this weird feeling
Speaker 2: of like who wrote this?
Speaker 3: And they also don't know anything about anything, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't expect a Hollywood screenwriter to know
Speaker 1: James Joyce. Like I only pretend to have read James Joyce.
Speaker 1: I've read like a couple paragraphs of that shit.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, dude, I fucking spark notes though entirety of
Speaker 2: portrait of the artists.
Speaker 1: You know, I've like talked to enough people who have
Speaker 1: pretended to read it and like done the googling enough
Speaker 1: to you know, know that you can't say cliffs of
Speaker 1: more is James Joyce? Yeah, truly, truly, Well, at least Netflix,
Speaker 1: it seems like it's got other got there head in
Speaker 1: the right place in other places, for instance, bringing the
Speaker 1: Snowman's Harry Hole back.
Speaker 2: The Snowman's What.
Speaker 1: So Harry Hole? You don't do you remember the crime? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the crime thriller, the Snowman. Yes, yes, yes, mister mister hello,
Speaker 1: mister police.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hello, mister police.
Speaker 1: Right, I gave you all the clues.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 1: Anyways, that that character is part of like a Jack
Speaker 1: Reacher like style series of novels, and people have like
Speaker 1: I remember when the Snowman was bad, people who like
Speaker 1: crime novels were like, and this sucks because like the
Speaker 1: Harry Hole books are actually pretty good. So he's getting
Speaker 1: another shot. Joe nez Bo, who you know, is it
Speaker 1: Harry Hole? Came up with the name Harry Hole, stuck
Speaker 1: with it, just.
Speaker 2: A bunch of great you got Joe nes Bow and
Speaker 2: my great character Harry Hole.
Speaker 1: Just couldn't be more nineteen seventies poorn nomag type shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh right.
Speaker 2: No it's Norwegian, so it's Jay.
Speaker 3: It's just Joe joh And then.
Speaker 2: The that that funky oh with the line through it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, but like the Hello mister Policeman, I
Speaker 1: gave you all the clues, gave us so many great memes.
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe that's what we're happening.
Speaker 2: I mean, the books were popular, right, Like, that's the
Speaker 2: only reason they made they made the film.
Speaker 1: So the novelist yourself will adapt his own novel for
Speaker 1: the show. So we'll say.
Speaker 3: And that I'd be like, that's a fifty to fifty
Speaker 3: shot right there.
Speaker 2: It'll either go well because something like you can actually
Speaker 2: understands like the intent of like what the book's supposed
Speaker 2: to be, or he'll be like, get way too caught
Speaker 2: up and be like I'm a scriptwriter now, and they're like, yeah.
Speaker 1: You're fucking it up, Joe, that's not how people talk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or maybe able to be Norwegian.
Speaker 2: Bosh nah, Nordic bush, I'm fine.
Speaker 1: All right. Those are some of the things that are
Speaker 1: trending on this Tuesday, March nineteenth. We are back tomorrow
Speaker 1: with a whole last episode of the show, A Banger
Speaker 1: with one Jamie Loftus, So tune in for that a
Speaker 1: bangor until then, be kind to each other, be kind
Speaker 1: to yourselves, get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy,
Speaker 1: and we will talk to y'all tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Bye bye,