Speaker 1: Y'all. Of course we're going to talk about Alec Baldwin
Speaker 1: and some other folks as somebody in law enforcement. This
Speaker 1: investigation went on for a year, and here we are
Speaker 1: with twists and turns and things just blowing up there
Speaker 1: at the last minute. So let's talk about miss Reid again.
Speaker 1: You already said that it kind of came out in
Speaker 1: trial that she had no care of concern for Miss
Speaker 1: Hutchins who was killed. Well, I will tell you right
Speaker 1: now she also didn't have any care of concern for
Speaker 1: Miss Smith because Miss Smith could have been arrested, Miss
Speaker 1: Smith could have relapsed, and Miss Smith could have gotten
Speaker 1: on a relapsed train that took her life. So again
Speaker 1: she is displaying I have no care about anybody but
Speaker 1: me exactly.
Speaker 2: And you know this also goes to so Alec Baldwin
Speaker 2: as an actor, which is what he was being tried as,
Speaker 2: has no obligation or or not even obligation.
Speaker 3: It is not his role too. Once he's been told
Speaker 3: this is a cold gun, it is not his role
Speaker 3: to check it. If the assistant director, who is the
Speaker 3: supervisor technically to the propmaster and the armorer hands him
Speaker 3: a gun and says cold gun what that means is
Speaker 3: that the armorer has cleared it for the assistant da
Speaker 3: a director rather, and then it's clear the actor would
Speaker 3: not have to test it. It's not now. Baldwin worked
Speaker 3: with guns for forty years. He's a veteran actor. And
Speaker 3: even so, there is no rule in the SAG laws,
Speaker 3: you know, to say an actor has to retest or
Speaker 3: re you know, double check what's already been double check.
Speaker 3: That's not their job. Their job is to act with
Speaker 3: the prop. So number one, he would not have been
Speaker 3: found guilty by a jury. And this as I watched
Speaker 3: the trial before this whole thing about the hiding of
Speaker 3: the evidence came to bear, I'm realizing an opening statements,
Speaker 3: there's no case here, not against him as an actor.
Speaker 3: Had the judge ruled he tried as both a producer
Speaker 3: and actor, then yes there's a case. Absolutely there's a
Speaker 3: case because he scrimped on everything. And he knew because
Speaker 3: he did an interview with George Stephanopolis after the whole
Speaker 3: incident in which he said, I didn't know that my
Speaker 3: crew weren't being housed overnight. I didn't know that they
Speaker 3: were complaining about unsafe conditions. Had I known that that
Speaker 3: somebody slept in their car. I could have taken money
Speaker 3: out from my salary to make sure things were right.
Speaker 1: And that the same interview where he said I didn't
Speaker 1: pull the.
Speaker 3: Trigger, yep, And so you know, but there you have
Speaker 3: see if I'm prosecutor, I'm pulling that out. And I'm saying, look,
Speaker 3: he knows what his responsibility should be as producer. He's
Speaker 3: putting lives in Jeffary. If you have people work for
Speaker 3: thirteen hours straight and then drive for fifty miles and
Speaker 3: turn around after they sleep a couple hours, and drive
Speaker 3: back and work for another thirteen hours, that's fair, that's safe,
Speaker 3: it's not sick. And then whatever nonsense is going on
Speaker 3: around that set plinking with blanks. I don't think it
Speaker 3: was real, Ammo. I think it was blanks. But blanks
Speaker 3: still are violence.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm going to say this, and it
Speaker 1: may not be popular, but if you take your child
Speaker 1: to a public swimming pool and you say, well, there's
Speaker 1: a lifeguard there, so I don't have to watch them,
Speaker 1: to me, Alec Baldwin should have at least double checked.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a revolver, you know it would take
Speaker 1: a second.
Speaker 3: So here's two things. One thing I had said was
Speaker 3: what I had thinking about this is if he were
Speaker 3: doing a scene that involved a Russian Roulette where you
Speaker 3: had to put that gun to his head, do you
Speaker 3: think he would have just double triple checked it before
Speaker 3: he pulled the trigger? Say that again, you know, let's say, Okay,
Speaker 3: the scene is, I'm gonna put the gun to my
Speaker 3: head and play Russian Roulette and it's cold. Good, let
Speaker 3: me just check.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. Well, let's just get really real. If somebody
Speaker 1: told me you're gonna do a love scene with Matthew McConaughey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shave my legs fourteen times.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come over and borrow some of your fancy perfume. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna get ready. I'm on check, double check,
Speaker 1: triple check. I'm gonna be so ready to get naked
Speaker 1: with him. Do you understand the So you're not gonna
Speaker 1: take four days to get your hair done, get your
Speaker 1: makeup done, brush your teeth, shave your legs, etcetera. And
Speaker 1: you can't double check a gun that you're about to
Speaker 1: point in another person.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent, I hear you, and you know That's
Speaker 3: what I thought and what I still think in terms
Speaker 3: of that, but legally according to SAG rules, and so
Speaker 3: people I've argued with people about this and they give
Speaker 3: me their scenario, and so what you can give you
Speaker 3: an alternative scenario that people have brought up, which is
Speaker 3: if you're a surgeon and for forming a procedure, and
Speaker 3: you ask for a scalpel, and you're being handed that
Speaker 3: by nurses and technicians who are professionals and whose job
Speaker 3: it is to make sure everything is sterilized, et cetera.
Speaker 3: And you use that scalpel and it turns out the
Speaker 3: scalpel had some kind of you know, infectious disease on,
Speaker 3: it wasn't cleaned right, and you wind up killing your
Speaker 3: patient because of it. Are you guilty of murder? You know?
Speaker 3: Or of chilling someone? I should say, rather, are you guilty?
Speaker 3: Are you at fault for killing that person if in
Speaker 3: fact that happened. So in that scenario, think about that
Speaker 3: for a minute.
Speaker 1: Cheryl, you're right, But I'm just gonna again come to
Speaker 1: the bottom line of it. Where does the buck stop
Speaker 1: if your action intended or otherwise CAUs to death.
Speaker 3: It starts with you.
Speaker 1: So this absolutely at least starts with Alec Baldwin and
Speaker 1: then you work backwards. But I'm saying you picked a
Speaker 1: pistol up no matter what you were told, pointed at
Speaker 1: another person, pulled that trigger, and then lied about that part.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because he doesn't want to be responsible for
Speaker 3: that death.
Speaker 1: You're right, he lied exactly because he knows his action
Speaker 1: at least caused it. And I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I've said this before on other cases. I have a
Speaker 1: problem with involuntary manslaughter. I think it is horrible that
Speaker 1: you're driving down the road and a tire comes off
Speaker 1: of your car and kills somebody. You didn't intend for
Speaker 1: that to happen. You had no malice, the forethought to
Speaker 1: harm anybody. You didn't set out to kill another person,
Speaker 1: and it's going to negatively affect the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: I don't think that person needs to go to prison.
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is who's responsible for that vehicle?
Speaker 1: They are, and their mechanic and the tire company and
Speaker 1: whoever put the axles together. All I'm saying is it
Speaker 1: goes backwards, but you absolutely start with the person with
Speaker 1: the action.
Speaker 3: I hear you, and it's interesting to me too. While
Speaker 3: I have Hollywood friends, I have to say I live
Speaker 3: on the East Coast, and you know I lived in
Speaker 3: Hollywood for many years. It's changed quite a bit over
Speaker 3: the years. As we all know, California has gotten, in
Speaker 3: my mind, kind of kooky, very kooky and unsafe in
Speaker 3: many cities. But I do know that my people out
Speaker 3: in California are convinced that he had no absolutely no responsibility.
Speaker 3: This wasn't his fault. This is at which one he
Speaker 3: should never have been tried for this, you know, Whereas
Speaker 3: when I first heard it, I thought he should be
Speaker 3: tried for secondarymder because I'm thinking second degree murder. I
Speaker 3: did this San Francisco dogmall in case. Did they know
Speaker 3: that those dogs could kill? Well, the jury and the
Speaker 3: great jury decided to charge them with secondary verb and
Speaker 3: they got convicted. The woman Marjorie dellac A convicted of
Speaker 3: secondary murder because she knew those dogs were lethal weapons.
Speaker 1: Now, I want you to hit on one thing before
Speaker 1: we go any further. Regardless of what somebody thinks about
Speaker 1: Alec Malwin. And I know he's got some diehard fans,
Speaker 1: and I know he's got some people that don't care
Speaker 1: for him at all. But when you've got a prosecutor
Speaker 1: that hide something, and you've got a judge saying terms
Speaker 1: like bad faith and highly prejudicial toward the defendant, that's
Speaker 1: scary because if he in fact had no culpability, if
Speaker 1: he wasn't guilty, it was not fair that anything was
Speaker 1: left out. And I want to address the two case
Speaker 1: numbers just real quick. If we have a stolen vehicle
Speaker 1: and that's given a case number, and then we find
Speaker 1: the vehicle that's a recovered vehicle and could absolutely have
Speaker 1: another case number and should, but then those case numbers
Speaker 1: are attached, so anytime you look up one, you're going
Speaker 1: to see the other. When that was not done here,
Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem with it being a second
Speaker 1: case number. I had a problem with that not being attached.
Speaker 1: And then them all getting in a room and talking
Speaker 1: about what they weren't going to tell anybody happened. And
Speaker 1: then it's on freaking body cam. I watched the body cam.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable, Right, sure, it's unbelievable. But now here we have
Speaker 3: a new thing. As of yesterday, Halngutierras and she are
Speaker 3: requiring our requesting that not only does her case get
Speaker 3: an appeal, but that it gets drew dismissed, that it
Speaker 3: gets overturned, and that she is let out nap like
Speaker 3: right now. And if they're going to if they're going
Speaker 3: not to overturn it, which they will not. Can't overturn
Speaker 3: a jury verdict, that can that's not gonna happened. But
Speaker 3: they're asking for it. Then won her out for appeal
Speaker 3: and out on you know, out on, be free on board.
Speaker 1: Bottom line, baby, if you hit evidence in his case,
Speaker 1: you hid it in mind to.
Speaker 3: Right accept While she may get she may she's going
Speaker 3: to get a new trial, and she may be let
Speaker 3: out because she's not a acent in society while awaiting
Speaker 3: the new trial. But here's the big difference, Cheryl. Her
Speaker 3: job is to make sure that what is the job
Speaker 3: of an ror it is you make sure that every
Speaker 3: single piece of ammo, every bullet, every gun, every anything
Speaker 3: that has to do with ammunition is safe, secured, locked
Speaker 3: and checked. And she didn't do it.
Speaker 1: And here's the deal. Have you ever watched a pilot
Speaker 1: go through their checklist?
Speaker 3: No, what I can imagine.
Speaker 1: They do it every single time. They'll walk around that plane.
Speaker 1: They'll look at the tires, they'll look at the wings,
Speaker 1: They do this whole big thing before they ever even
Speaker 1: get in the cockpit. And the deal is, lives are
Speaker 1: at stake. You want to cut corners and not check
Speaker 1: the engine. You want to, you know, not check that
Speaker 1: tire to make sure it ain't going to blow out
Speaker 1: the minute you hit the runway. You have to do
Speaker 1: these things. And you know the folks that take on
Speaker 1: the firearms instructors or the different trainings with firearms, those
Speaker 1: people are next level. They do not get in a hurry.
Speaker 1: They will check and recheck and examine and re examine
Speaker 1: at nauseum to the point the rest of us may
Speaker 1: even be making fun of them. But the bottom line
Speaker 1: is everybody goes home.
Speaker 3: Saved, exactly Sheryl. And in this case, this woman who
Speaker 3: again is drinking, is drugging. We have her on text
Speaker 3: admitting I'm just going to smoke tonight and she doesn't
Speaker 3: smoke cigarettes. Right before it happened, they're saying she was
Speaker 3: fuzzy headed the next day. I don't know what she did.
Speaker 3: She went and she locked this stuff up before lunch
Speaker 3: and came back and didn't It's just crazy. She is
Speaker 3: liable for the death of this woman. And I think
Speaker 3: she's criminally liable. I don't think because they hid bullets
Speaker 3: that it gets her. It gets away with her because
Speaker 3: the charger with bringing the bullets on. I said, okay,
Speaker 3: they're gonna take that charge away, but they still have
Speaker 3: the fact that it's her responsibility, her job to make
Speaker 3: sure that everything on that set is safe, and she
Speaker 3: shirked it. But you know, she's there crying thinking her
Speaker 3: lawyers were asking for her to have you know, parole
Speaker 3: and never do a day in jail and let it out.
Speaker 3: And the judge threw the book at her only could
Speaker 3: get her eighteen months. I wish you'd gotten more with
Speaker 3: that state. That's what they allow. And now I said,
Speaker 3: you're looking Cheryl at maybe she's going to just get
Speaker 3: the whole thing thrown out, like it'll get maybe dismissed,
Speaker 3: or she'll getting the trial. And meantime, who knows, I mean,
Speaker 3: is that way?
Speaker 1: You know what? Ephrodding that whole Karen read thing. It
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I was so angered by Trooper
Speaker 1: Proctor that I said early on, he's going to blow
Speaker 1: this whole thing up. Not only you can take the
Speaker 1: text messages completely out of it, but you've got a
Speaker 1: lead detective that never went to the crime scene, only
Speaker 1: interviewed three people, made his mind up in sixteen hours,
Speaker 1: never marked where the body was, never measured. It went bad.
Speaker 1: So again in this case with Prosecutor Morrissey, she hid evidence.
Speaker 1: It's been established, as you have already said so eloquently.
Speaker 1: So she has not only taken justice off the table
Speaker 1: for the you know, Hutchins family, once she's liable to
Speaker 1: do it a second time.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, and that's it, you know, you poison the well.
Speaker 3: Now the will is poisoned. As the judge said, there
Speaker 3: is no way to rectify this, There is no way
Speaker 3: to go back because now you can't test those bullets.
Speaker 3: You can't determine whether or not those bullets matched the
Speaker 3: bullet that was on set.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Hence the argument that handingteers brought bullets on the set
Speaker 3: goes away. And then even though she's completely at fault,
Speaker 3: completely at fault, Cheryl for not having protected that set,
Speaker 3: that crew and all the actors from the weapons, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter because this mistake or deliberate attempts to frame her,
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, has now destroyed it.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: When she first got those, and she's looking at that
Speaker 1: box of ammunition. She didn't examine every single bullet. She
Speaker 1: herself didn't say, hey, some of these alive, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go lock them in the trunk of my car. She
Speaker 1: just took everything to the said and just hey, ae
Speaker 1: meenie miney mode, I'm gonna pick these and load this gun.
Speaker 3: Well, you know the other thing too, if you noticed
Speaker 3: that when the trial was on for Baldwin, you saw
Speaker 3: that this round of bullets that were put together on
Speaker 3: an evidence slide, and most of them had a brass
Speaker 3: color to them and two had a silver color to them. Okay,
Speaker 3: so just think that I'm not an armor, I'm not anybody.
Speaker 3: But if I'm looking at bullets, I'm gonna load into
Speaker 3: a gun, right, I'm gonna say, boy, these are different,
Speaker 3: like like a battery, Like is this the right one?
Speaker 3: Like that? Or no, doesn't? How is it? And again
Speaker 3: it goes back to she's twenty four years old. She's
Speaker 3: trying to make a name for herself. She thinks she's
Speaker 3: a big shot because her dad's a big shot, and
Speaker 3: she's thrown wielded guns around. She walked into a restaurant
Speaker 3: with a gun the prosecutors after her for all of
Speaker 3: the above, triter for the cocaine possession. That charge went
Speaker 3: to the jury of Tambury with evidence that was that
Speaker 3: was was a charge that went to the jury on
Speaker 3: good chairs this case. She was found not guilty, that
Speaker 3: guilty of, you know, a voluntary manslaughter. But that prosecutor
Speaker 3: was going after her every which way she could, and
Speaker 3: I think she should have been going after her every
Speaker 3: which way she could. But she went overboard, she stepped
Speaker 3: over the line and thought she was never going to
Speaker 3: get caught. I mean, it was stunning to me, Cheryl
Speaker 3: watching the trial. I'm watching this woman testify, right, and
Speaker 3: I'm thinking to myself, what is she talking about? You
Speaker 3: got bullets from a concerned citizen or outside. I was like,
Speaker 3: who is this? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: You know, It's just it was like it was I
Speaker 3: felt like I was in slow motion listening to it,
Speaker 3: Like I couldn't assimilate it, you know, I couldn't consume it,
Speaker 3: as you know, because sometimes you're in a horrible situation
Speaker 3: and it's not until afterward that you kind of look
Speaker 3: back and go, oh my god. You know, I could
Speaker 3: have been killed back there or whatever it was, you know,
Speaker 3: sliced away from an accident by a millimeter and you
Speaker 3: look at it and you say, Holy John, what just happened?
Speaker 3: I mean, that's how I felt about the fact that
Speaker 3: this woman was testifying this CSI saying, you know, I
Speaker 3: lobbed them in. Yeah, he had me a whole bunch
Speaker 3: of bullets. I lobbed them in, and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: what'd you log in the house? I just I documented her?
Speaker 3: What does that mean? I document? You know, she's trying
Speaker 3: to walk around it because now she knows she's on
Speaker 3: a hot seat.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: I am a crime scene investigator. I am telling you
Speaker 1: your report must be so clear, and there is no
Speaker 1: one I don't care what their rank is. This is
Speaker 1: going to get me to write something that is not accurate.
Speaker 1: It's not going to happen.
Speaker 3: That's why she started a squirre.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And that's why she couldn't even articulate about
Speaker 1: the case number, because I kept waiting for her just
Speaker 1: to explain it. It's a different case number because this
Speaker 1: happened a different day. This was somebody that brought evidence.
Speaker 1: It's a different thing. It's attached to the case but
Speaker 1: everything that would happen would have a different case number.
Speaker 1: She never said that, And that's when I started watching
Speaker 1: the judge and I was like, oh lord, this is
Speaker 1: about to go south. And all I could think of
Speaker 1: was true or Proctor, And I'm like, are you telling
Speaker 1: me back to back? We're going to have an ethical
Speaker 1: issue with the side of the commonwealth.
Speaker 3: Or the state. For me. The other thing about all
Speaker 3: this is that we have so many people in this
Speaker 3: country who want to go after law enforcement and want
Speaker 3: to go after our judicial system and say that it's
Speaker 3: no good. I mean, you know the case of Michael Peterson.
Speaker 3: You know that there are many people that want to say,
Speaker 3: you know, nobody fell down the stairs, it was an owl.
Speaker 3: And you know everybody in the crime world we know
Speaker 3: about this mystical owl. The thing is, there are defense
Speaker 3: attorneys and others who go around the country killing off
Speaker 3: our justice system, talking about it to a point where
Speaker 3: and the media where we start to think our justice
Speaker 3: system is no good, that it's corrupt. Now let me
Speaker 3: wind the clock backs here a minute. What about our
Speaker 3: justice system in comparison to every other justice system in the.
Speaker 1: World, hands down the best ever, not even close.
Speaker 3: We're not chopping people's hands off because they touch something,
Speaker 3: you know, a woman in Arabia or whatever. We're not
Speaker 3: doing that. You know, we're not in China where people
Speaker 3: just shot. We're not in Russia. We're not in Italy
Speaker 3: where they just string someone up without the correct evidence.
Speaker 3: Amandon Ox, You know, I wish that we could turn
Speaker 3: the clock back a little bit for us in America
Speaker 3: and understand that there is no better justice system than
Speaker 3: the one we have. Is are there people who are imperfect? Yes?
Speaker 3: Did Alec Baldwin get away? Yes? He did. Is Hannah
Speaker 3: Goucierras going to get away? I guess? Did Michael Peterson
Speaker 3: get away with murder? He sure did because a blood
Speaker 3: expert testified in a way that wasn't choose for long
Speaker 3: the stand because he was over zealous. Having said that
Speaker 3: those are anomalies. You and I know this. I've been
Speaker 3: in a criminal course for over thirty years of murder trials.
Speaker 3: Things go by the book, Most law enforcement go by
Speaker 3: the book. Has to bring corruption in the past. We
Speaker 3: know about in Cook County, Chicago, and I've interviewed people
Speaker 3: who are wrongfully imprisoned. Help one get out pay Tyronhood
Speaker 3: who didn't do it. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: in our current society, for sure, we don't have people
Speaker 3: out there to get someone. We have people who are
Speaker 3: in law enforcement who are trying to keep us safe.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I can prove it to you because every
Speaker 1: expert that's own TV is shocked and they wouldn't be
Speaker 1: if it was normal. If people will flip a coin,
Speaker 1: maybe they're going to do the right thing, maybe they're not.
Speaker 3: They do the right thing, Yes they do, Yes they do.
Speaker 3: When I hear you talk, you remind me of so
Speaker 3: many law enforcement people that I've worked with, a dealt
Speaker 3: with over the years. Who I mean, come on, the
Speaker 3: people I work with are absolutely impenetrable in terms of
Speaker 3: their ethics and their way they go about handling a case.
Speaker 3: This is why most of the cases I've dealt with
Speaker 3: are you know, people are found guilty of murder. It
Speaker 3: doesn't get changed, there's no appeal, there's you know, they
Speaker 3: gets considered.
Speaker 1: Girl, you go on and write a book, the book
Speaker 1: is made into a movie, and still nobody is coming
Speaker 1: forward saying this is and right, this was wrong?
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, it's it's so cool, you know, And that's
Speaker 3: just it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I mean, we have a justice system in this country
Speaker 3: and a law enforcement service in this country that's better
Speaker 3: than any other in the whole world. And yet we
Speaker 3: want to sit here and general public say they're no good.
Speaker 3: The justice system is no good. It's a bunch of garbage. Well,
Speaker 3: look at all those people in Boston or Camden, Massachusetts
Speaker 3: screaming and yelled about Karen Read and her innocence. Me
Speaker 3: and friend, well guess what, No, I don't think she
Speaker 3: was and I don't think she's innocent. That's me.
Speaker 1: But again, if somebody had done their job properly, there
Speaker 1: may be no question about it exactly.
Speaker 3: Well, there you have it. That's the problem there. And
Speaker 3: so that's allow those people to then whip themselves up
Speaker 3: into a frenzy and start bad melting the law, the
Speaker 3: justice system. There's bad apples share. My first book is
Speaker 3: called The FBI Chiller. It was about an FBI agent
Speaker 3: who killed his informant. He murdered her because she was
Speaker 3: pregnant and she was threatening to show her her positive
Speaker 3: pregnancy tests to the wife because she was this mistress
Speaker 3: and girl.
Speaker 1: That's a good book too, honey, thank you.
Speaker 3: You know that was needed to a movie with Patricihark
Speaker 3: kept playing susant Dannis with But the point of it
Speaker 3: is is that is there a rogue FBI agent is
Speaker 3: this Yeah, he's the only one before and since that's
Speaker 3: ever done, anything like that doesn't happen. It happens, but
Speaker 3: it's not the norm. It's the exception.
Speaker 1: Well stated. Now, I'm gonna let you go, but before
Speaker 1: I do, I want us to talk about something exciting.
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Speaker 1: I just want to again tell you thank you so
Speaker 1: much for being with us tonight. Thank you for being
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Speaker 3: I hope so. And Cheryl, it's always a pleasure to
Speaker 3: talk with you. I must say, every time I talk
Speaker 3: with you, I learn more and more about the law,
Speaker 3: about the way you've been raised. And I have to say,
Speaker 3: I really, really admire your work, ethic, your work, and
Speaker 3: everything that you do. I think you're just tremendous.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that so much, y'all. I'm going to end
Speaker 1: Zone seven the way that I always do, with a vote.
Speaker 1: You alone turned a safe weapon into a lethal weapon.
Speaker 1: But for you, miss Hutchins would be alive, a husband
Speaker 1: would have his partner, and a little boy would have
Speaker 1: his mother. Judge Mary Marlowe Summer. I'm Cheryl McCollum, and
Speaker 1: this is his own seven