1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: You're listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coach, 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: a imparanormal podcast network where we offer you podcasts of 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: the supernatural and the unexplained. Get ready now for Shades 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. The thoughts and opinions 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: expressed by the host our thoughts and opinions only, and 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: do not necessarily reflect those of I Heart Media, I 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, Coast to Coast, AUM, employees of premier networks, 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: or their sponsors and associates. You are encouraged to do 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: the proper amount of research yourself, depending on the subject 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: matter and your needs. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain. For almost 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: twenty five years, I've been on a journey to prove 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: the existence of life after death. On each episode will 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: discuss the reasons we now know that our loved ones 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: have survived physical death and so will we well to 15 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife. Today, I'm excited to share with 16 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: you the wonderful work of Dr Mark Pittstick, who is 17 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: director and one of the co founders of the Soul 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: Phone Foundation. Dr Mark has over forty five years experience 19 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: and training in hospitals, pastoral counseling, mental health, centers and 20 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: private practice. He is the author of several books, including 21 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: soul Proof, Compelling Evidence that no one really dies. You 22 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: can find out more at his website soul Proof dot com. 23 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: Dr Mark Pittstick Welcome, so glad you're here. Thank you, Sandra. 24 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: It's a pleasure. Well Mark. I know it's been a 25 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: couple of years since I first interviewed you on my 26 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: first show, We Don't Die Radio, and I know a 27 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: lot has happened with the soul Phone. But before we 28 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: get into that, I'm wondering if you could go through 29 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: again a little bit about your history and about soul Proof. Sure. Um, 30 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: how I got involved in all this. I think I 31 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: was born to do it. I think it is my mission. Uh. 32 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Some evidence for that. When I was six years old, 33 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: my parents were showing me a beautiful son set and 34 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: I told him it reminded me of God. And they 35 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: only told me that twenty years later when I was 36 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: in theology school. And over the years, I've had four 37 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: different mediums or people could see energy tell me that 38 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm not the usual kind of soul that comes to 39 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: a place like Earth and have these great teaching missions. 40 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: Why I can't believe it, because throughout my life I 41 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: felt like a stranger, and a strange land actually had 42 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: to learn how to fit in and be a good human. Um. 43 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: I would be watching football when I was twelve years old, 44 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: for example, with my grandpa and uncle's and dad and 45 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: so on, and and be thinking, gosh, you know, if 46 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: we just took a percent of the money and time 47 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: and energy to put on this game to feed the poor, 48 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: think how we would would advancements we would make? So 49 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: not your usual little guy. UM started working in hospitals 50 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: while I was nineteen as respitory therapists. As I worked 51 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: my way through premd theology, clinical psych etcetera, and was 52 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: around lots of death and dying and quickly was trained 53 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: to do resuscitated procedures, long intubation, arterial blood guess punctures, etcetera. 54 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: So by age twenty, was almost every weekend around one 55 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: or more people as they died, including little children, and 56 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: it drove me to my knees. My Lutheran upbringing, you know, 57 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: taught me that God was all knowing, all loving, all caring, 58 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: and so it took me a long time to figure 59 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: out how that can be true and yet all the 60 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: suffering that we see going on about this fast forward 61 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: thirty some years, you know, marriage and kids and holistic practice, 62 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: et cetera, a life happening and my book so approved. 63 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: The docum married film met Dr Schwartz and Dr Schwartz 64 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: and I obviously were kindred spirits, very clear that we 65 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: had a similar mission and um we He asked me 66 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: to start working with him in two thousand and sixteen 67 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: to be the spokesperson four the Soul Phone and project. 68 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: Because he's so immersed in the research and development. You 69 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: bring up Dr Gary Schwartz. I have seen him just 70 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: a couple of times speak. Do you want to just 71 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about who he is and how 72 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: you guys got connected. Sure, he's um. First of all, 73 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: he had two near death experiences when he was a 74 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: little child, one at age one and one at age eight, 75 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: and he never forgot them. You know, he had the 76 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: typical the white light, the deep piece. It was the 77 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,119 Speaker 1: most love of that he had ever felt in his life. 78 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: It was curious for him because he was brought up 79 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: in a um atheistic Jewish family and it was all sciences. 80 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: Dad went to Columbia chemist. It was all assist assist 81 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: dust to dust and That's pretty much what he believed 82 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: as he marched through the top schools Cornell, Masters and 83 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: PhD at Harvard, Professor at Harvard, tenured professor at Yale. 84 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: Excuse me, A lot of people don't know, but Dr 85 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: Schwartz has been instrumental in huge projects over the years. 86 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: He was one of a handful of people who founded 87 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: behavioral medicine in the seventies. I had no idea. Yeah, 88 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: that alone is huge. Yeah, I know. It seems like 89 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: every couple of months I find out something new about Oh. Yes, 90 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: I was involved in the pioneering of this field. And 91 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: like anyway, he's he's the most amazing genius but also caring, curious. 92 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: He's just an incredible person. We have become soul brothers. 93 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: In fact, he made me promise that we will continue 94 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 1: to work together after we pass on. So I guess 95 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: we have to no choice. You have no choice, of 96 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: course you will. Yeah, he's seventy five years old, and 97 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: um he went to the University of Arizona so that 98 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: he could start doing more even more cutting edge edge 99 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: research and in this case looking at the survival of consciousness. UH, 100 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: Yale and Harvard are wonderful institutions but more on the 101 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: conservative side, and University of Arizona being more liberal. Uh. 102 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: And he started that research with mediums about twenty he 103 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: knew from experience. In fact, he even took courses to 104 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: find out how some mediums cheat or you know, just 105 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: a very mediocre but he was convinced that at least 106 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: some mediums had verifiable abilities, and as describing his book, 107 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: the Afterlife Experiments did double even triple blind studies, totally 108 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: controlled research with people like John Edward and George Anderson 109 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: and others, and found it indeed, some of them had 110 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: very verifiable abilities, hit rates around eight six versus and 111 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: by the control group. So that piqued his curiosity, and 112 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: he during that time launched the dream of creating technology 113 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: to allow spirit of communication. And he was aware of 114 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: E V P and I T C and various approaches 115 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: that may or may not work, may or may not 116 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: be intelligible. He wanted to create technology as reliable as 117 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: a cell phone that was night work of the time, 118 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: very clear whether it was audio or video, et cetera, 119 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: and set out about that. Ten of the top mediums 120 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: started working with him and they would independently come up 121 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: with information they would just patting. They're saying, you know, 122 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 1: Albert Einstein keeps coming to me and saying, I'm supposed 123 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: to contact you, Dr Schwartz and pass on this bit 124 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: of information. And it's it's such a wonderful story because 125 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: sometimes these are highly technical terms, electrical engineering terms, for example, 126 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: and the medium will say, I don't even know if 127 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: this is a word, but I'm I'm supposed to pass 128 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: it on you. And Garry say, it's exactly what I 129 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: need to hear right now that I was stuck and 130 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: that's my sign. And especially when this kind of information 131 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: came through independently by multiple mediums identically, it was a 132 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: big help. So I say, Dr Schwartz gets his information 133 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: from four sources. First of all his amazing genius mind. 134 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: Secondly from these evidential mediums. Third, from his earthly team 135 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: electrical engineers, software specialists, optical physicists and others. Being a 136 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: senior professor at University of Arizona, he is able to 137 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: use grad students and met some of them, especially from 138 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: India and China. They are just such geniuses um. And 139 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: then fourth, what we call the eight Team, a group 140 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: of quote deceased luminaries what we call post material luminaries 141 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: who have been helping him, and I name some of them, 142 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: Albert Einstein, David Boom, Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla and others. 143 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: This is so great and wild and fantastic. And I 144 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: know there's been a lot of people in the past 145 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: a couple of years who have asked me what's the 146 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: latest on the soul phone. What's the latest on the 147 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: soul phone? And before we get into the latest on 148 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: the soul Phone, I think maybe we had talked about 149 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: this the last time we spoke. But I'm just reminded 150 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: of those two brothers that had a dream of creating 151 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: a flying machine, Wilbur and Orville, and how back in 152 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: the day people thought they were crazy, It's never gonna work, 153 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, all of those things, and these were some 154 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: obviously the founding fathers of the aircraft. Every time we 155 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: I take off, Mark, I'm thinking, thank you Wilbur and 156 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: Orville for having a dream. And now we just take 157 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: it for granted. So wherever we're at on planet Earth 158 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: with the team and the soul Phone, you know, I believe, 159 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: beyond the shadow of a doubt, that it's not too 160 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: far away that we will be able to connect with 161 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: our loved ones and just the convenience of our handheld device. 162 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: But you know, don't listen to the little voice that 163 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: says things are impossible, because look at the things we 164 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: take for granted now. And even you mentioned Edison the lightbulb. 165 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: Many people laughed at him and he failed a thousand times, 166 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: and now look look what we have. So with that, 167 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: just for all of us to be excited, you know, 168 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: really be excited at what what's probably happening and what's 169 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: possible in the future. So that being said, what's the latest, 170 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: or what's happening or what is the soul phone? We 171 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: can even start with that, your right brothers. Metaphor is 172 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: an apt one. We've surged into some of the writings 173 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: by Orville and Wilbur and they wrote after there, I 174 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: think it was nineteen o eight, their first flight only 175 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: lasted twelve seconds and crashed. But one of them wrote, 176 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: for those five of us who were there on that day, 177 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: we knew that human flight was possible, and likewise with 178 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: the soul phone, we now know and I'll get in 179 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: details in a moment that first of all, this this 180 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: work has shown scientifically that life continues after bodily death. 181 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: And secondly that these people who have dropped their body 182 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: can communicate. Now, is it a commercializable device you can 183 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: go to your storm by not yet. Alexander Graham Bell 184 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: patented the telephone in eighteen seventies six. Well, in nineteen sixty, 185 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: I was seven years old. We had a party line. 186 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: It was a four number dial. I'm getting on the 187 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: phone trying to call somebody. You know, You're like, you know, 188 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: clear your throat, so whoever is on the line would 189 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: hang up. And it wasn't until um the late nineteen 190 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: nineties that the first mobile phone exists, and it was huge. Mark. 191 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: We have to take a quick break, but when we 192 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: come back, we'll find out more from you about the 193 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: soul phone. 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First of all, the soul fun 211 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: is an umbrella term for for anticipated devices and the 212 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: first is working very well, and that's called the soul Switch. 213 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: That's a binary indicator I being allows yes no answers 214 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: from those in spirit. And the old switch um is 215 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: not perceived as being a commercializable device, you know, kind 216 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: of be like a Uiji board, only very accurate. But 217 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: we don't really anticipate going down that road with the 218 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: soul Switch. Again, we have been able to show that 219 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: with multiple, multiple studies, thousands of trials, highly statistical significance, 220 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: data analysis, et cetera, be able to show scientifically that 221 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: the presence of spirit that they are present and further 222 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: their communication. For example, one way is using what we 223 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: call the personal identification tests UH. And I say we 224 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: because I've actually been involved in a lot of this 225 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: research over the last three years. And the personal identification 226 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: tests being a series of questions. So for example, UM, 227 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: if I were in spirit, the question would be to me, 228 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: as your first name Mark, yes, is your last name 229 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: shamplain answer should be no. You know did we have 230 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: a dog named Snoopy while I was a kid? Yes? 231 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: And so on, a series of questions that could be 232 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: verified which give a high degree of certainty that who 233 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:23,119 Speaker 1: we are dealing with. Secondly, a what's called the cognitive 234 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: understanding test, and this is done for the most part 235 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: with a series of slides. And keep in mind this 236 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: has all been done UH in different centers, replicated, all 237 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: computer automated. Because Dr Schortz, being such a serious scientists, 238 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: want to address any conceivable criticism, for example, UH, the 239 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: observer bias, that is the effect of the experiment or's 240 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: consciousness on the outcome. So some of the experiments have 241 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: been run in the middle of the night, the time 242 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: selected by a random time generator. UH. The computer EA 243 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: ter starts the experiment in the middle of the night 244 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: when everybody is asleep, so no one's consciousness would know 245 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: when it start or what's going on, and yet the 246 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: result to the same as when we're physically present in 247 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: the room, So there's cognitive understanding test and shows a 248 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: series of slides, for example, using photos of the well. 249 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: Let's say a mother wants to um interact with our 250 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: child who's past. Slides would be loaded up and the 251 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: question would be was this us together when you were 252 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: a little boy, And if it was, the answer should 253 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: be yes, But if the photo was of strangers, the 254 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: answer should be no. Then another one, Is this a 255 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: picture of our dog we had, you know, when we 256 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: lived in a certain city? Yes or no? Is this 257 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: a birthday party that occurred before you changed world? Yes 258 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: or no? So again, a way to be sure who 259 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: you're dealing with, to be sure that they are alive 260 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: and well and really most touching, to know that they 261 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: are still present, they still want to be part of 262 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: the family, They're aware of what's going on, they're still 263 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: in contact. Mark. How do they flip the switch? I'm 264 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: sure they have to manipulate energy, and I can't imagine 265 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: it's an actual switch like a light switch. But can 266 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: I assume they use their energy to somehow get the 267 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: information the yes or the no in the computer. Yeah, 268 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: they're actually actually two different switches right now, and we're 269 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah, well, kind of like you. There 270 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: are two race cars that are leading the race, and 271 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: so we're betting on both of them to see which 272 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: one turns out to be the very best. But in 273 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: both cases, yes, Uh, the post material persons, the people 274 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: who have passed on, are able to signal their presence. 275 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: So you know, whether you could say it's energy or 276 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: they're touching with their hands depends on where you know. 277 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: Whether you're looking at the quantum physics, are things particles 278 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: formed or waves pure energy, But the experiments so far 279 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: indicate that they can be just as physical as we 280 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: They have physicality as measured by uh, the diminished time 281 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: of photons passing from one area to another when they 282 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: put their hand through it, the motion detected when they 283 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: put their hand in an enclosed area and air motion 284 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: is detected. So that's why we say post material persons. 285 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: They're they're not just airy, gauzy balls of energy. They 286 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: can be, but they also to be quite physical and 287 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: from what we've gathered, enjoy doing that sometimes, I would 288 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: think so definitely. And even some of the great mediums 289 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: that we both know and love that work on behalf 290 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: of the those in the spirit world. There there's still people. 291 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: They are still people, they have their personalities into some 292 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: of the information is that, uh, they very easily can 293 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: buy locate and we need a different word because in 294 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: one conversation with Edison Einstein and Tesla we were like auctioneers, 295 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: can you, indeed um enjoy simultaneous realities? And they said, 296 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: oh yes, he said so more than one place at 297 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: the time? Yeah, ten, yeah, twenty yeah. And at that 298 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: point Gary said, now wait a minute, are you saying 299 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: to me that you can be in twenty different places 300 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: at the same time having different interactions. Yes, And then 301 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: it turned out they said even fifty and maybe a 302 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: hundred sometimes. So how cool would that be? And by 303 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: the way, one of the I guess take home messages 304 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: of that is when people try to interact with our 305 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: loved ones who have passed on, it's not like we're 306 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: interfering with their other business year. They can do more 307 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: than one thing at a time. That's good news. So 308 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: that's the Soul switch, which must be really amazing to 309 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: just even be part of getting those answers, even having 310 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: a conversation with Edison, Einstein and Tesla like no big deal, Wow, 311 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: what's the next of the four categories? Yeah, first of all, 312 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: the and we say right now, the Soul switch is 313 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: a stage two prototype. It works about nine percent at 314 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: the time, eighty to ninety And we say that the 315 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: other ten or is not that they're messing up, it's 316 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: just the limits of the technology. And the next goal 317 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: is to create the stage three prototype. However, that we 318 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: require full time software programmer, full time electrical engineer, a 319 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: clean room, probably a two million dollar budget to finalize that, 320 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: and we have a couple of people who are instead 321 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: we've been talking to UM but if any people have 322 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: an investment, capabilities and interest contactus. Dr Schwarz thinks that 323 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: after the funding is in place and the equipment and 324 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: so on, that will take about a year then to 325 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: have the stage three and that will be a practically 326 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: working device that will then allow us to move into 327 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: the second device, which is called the Soul keyboard. So 328 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: if you look at the keyboard in front of you, 329 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: it's about forty three switches and um for example, if 330 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: you push the L key, that's a yes for the L, 331 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: the no for everything else. And the first Soul switch 332 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: then can be incorporated into a Soul keyboard. Dr Schwartz 333 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: anticipates will be about four ft wide three ft deep, 334 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: but that will out then texting and typing with those 335 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: another dimension. Pretty great. Yeah. By the way, we um 336 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: and we had a session through one of the top 337 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: mediums being able to ask questions of people like Tesla 338 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: and Einstein and UM I asked, when we have a 339 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: device that's and the sole keyboard would function for this 340 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: that allows sufficient quantity and quality of information to pass through, 341 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: would you all be willing to give webinars addressing our 342 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: toughest challenge and biggest problems. And the medium started laughing 343 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: and she said they're pushing each other out of the 344 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: way to get first in line. So indications are there's 345 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: a huge amount of interest on quote the other side 346 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: for helping us here on our planets. So keep hope 347 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: alive people. The third device then after we have that 348 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: Soule keyboard, and by the way, that will allow so 349 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: much more information from the A team and really expedite 350 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: creation of the other devices, the third then being called 351 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: Soul Voice and then Soul video like teleconferencing, whether it's zooms, 352 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: guy face time, being able to see and here very exciting. 353 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm just envisioning that world and probably the not too 354 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: too distant future that that's possible. It is, and just 355 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: the just the knowledge that it's on the way has 356 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: helped many people. I've actually had three emails from people 357 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: who were suicide and they said, you know, I had 358 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: just about had been living on Earth because you know 359 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: how it's difficult for people are partially awakened with all 360 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: the craziness that goes on our planet, and they said, 361 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: I was really considering moving on, and then I heard 362 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: about the Soul phone, and I thought, you know, I 363 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: want to around and see how this ends up. Uh. 364 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: And then of course numerous brief parents who are journeying 365 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: towards being Shining Light parents are so very excited that 366 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: in addition to visitations with mediums and so on, they 367 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: will um at some point be able to visit in 368 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: a much more developed way. I think it's really great. 369 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: And just how you brought up the cell phone and 370 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: the mobile phone back in the day, it was this 371 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: big heavy, clunky thing, and now we just hold this 372 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: device in our hand that we can get almost all 373 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: the information in the universe in less than a second. 374 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: And it takes it takes money. I think a lot 375 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: of us working in the afterlife field just do this 376 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: out of our own funds. And I know there's been 377 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: donations and things to the Soul Phone Foundation, but it 378 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: it takes that, and it takes equipment, and it takes 379 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: these computers and I can't even imagine the device with 380 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: photons and all those kind of things. But and it 381 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: also takes these minds that can get on board to 382 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: help with it. I think probably when the cell phone 383 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: first came out and more and more minds got involved, 384 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: we saw the growth exponentially to what we have today 385 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: in our hands. Can't even imagine what the future holds 386 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: and that kind of technology. 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Sandra on the Your Heart 424 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: Radio and Coach to Coach d M Paranormal podcast net Flock. 425 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain 426 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: and we're with Dr Mark Pittstick, co founder and director 427 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: of the Soul Phone. Mark. I know for myself being 428 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: involved in learning about the afterlife and sharing it, the 429 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: difference it can make in one life is just tremendous. 430 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: With grief, we often can hit rock bottom and just 431 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: to hear some words that can help us believe in 432 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: the afterlife can actually give people life again. Yes, and 433 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: especially you know, the proving that there's an afterlife has 434 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: been near and dear to my heart for many years 435 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: since I was working with these dying people as youth. 436 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: But now for the first time we can say we 437 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: now have definitive scientific demonstration that life continues after bodily death, 438 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: which we can never state legitimately before, but now we 439 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: can based on the data. Where would you recommend people 440 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: go mark online? Would it be soul phone dot org 441 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: to find out more because obviously in an hour interview 442 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: you're not going to give all the details and be 443 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: able to do that. But for people that want to 444 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: explore more, I know you also have greater reality living 445 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: and soul proof. Yeah, soul phone dot org is a 446 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: great way to start to learn more about it, to 447 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: see the updates and so on. But Dr SCHWARTZS and 448 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: I realized three years ago that it would be advantageous 449 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: to have first the book, but also groups to help 450 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: people adjust to this paradigm shift. I mean, it's huge 451 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: to to really know for sure. In other words, it's 452 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: one thing where religions talk about, it's another thing we're like, well, 453 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: you know, evidence indicates, but but now to say scientific 454 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: demonstration of it. And so we wrote the book Greater 455 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: Reality Living, in which we lay out all the evidence clinical, scientific, 456 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: and based on firsthand experience, and then what we call 457 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: the lives formula and just briefly lives as an acronym 458 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: for l learned the evidence that clearly shows what forever being. 459 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: I internalize this great news so people don't just have 460 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: a dry intellectual knowing that phades when time gets tough, 461 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: but a deep, internalized knowing that serves them. It's like 462 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: building your house on grant staff, shifting sand that serves 463 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: them when they're dying, when a loved one passes, etcetera. 464 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: The vast ends for vitalize yourself holistically so that people 465 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: have the energy, the balance, the vitality they need to 466 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: brighten the corner where they are to demonstrate this. Okay, 467 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, I hope it says when we know better, 468 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: we do better. All right, When we know that we're 469 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: eternal beings in the world, interconnected, how does that shape 470 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: the way we interact with each other, treat one another, 471 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: and so on. Mobilized do what we can to make 472 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: the world a better place. The e stands for enjoy 473 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: the many benefits like knowing there's nothing the fear. Yeah, 474 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: we dropped the body, but that turns out to be 475 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: much less than one percent of who and what we are. 476 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: And the same way, we couldn't lose loved ones if 477 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: we tried. You know, we are so so inextracly interconnected 478 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: people and pets. And then finally, the S stands for 479 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: serve others and make the world a better place. So 480 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: we wanted to share this formula. And then each chapter 481 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: has lots of information, strategies resources so people can use them. 482 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: We've also started Greater Reality Living groups. I think we 483 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: have three or four functioning now in the US and Cannon, 484 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: and we just got started the first of the year, 485 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: will start online Greater Reality Living groups because we had 486 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: heard from so many people over the years. Uh, there's 487 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: no one I can talk to you about these things. 488 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: You know, if if I told my family and friends, 489 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: they think I was kookie, Well guess what where we 490 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: must all be cookie Because it turns out so many 491 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: us have had after death communications or various spiritually transformative experiences. 492 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: So these Greater Reality Living groups then being safe places, inclusive, respectful, diversity, 493 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: and so on where people can learn this information. We 494 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: have videos and facilitator managers. We have a whole team 495 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: of twenty eight people working for the Foundation project managers 496 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: who are forming these groups where people can learn this information, 497 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: discuss it, share their own personal experiences, and then look 498 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: at how can they take action in their community to 499 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: make things better, really good. I know from myself my 500 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: life has improved I don't even know how many times 501 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: over embracing the fact that we don't die. It's also 502 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: our life is for a purpose. I've gone after some 503 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: dreams that have been forgotten about. I've been courageous in 504 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: the face of fear, things I probably wouldn't have normally done. 505 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: But embracing this Greater Reality living as you talk about it, 506 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: is something that I'm living my best life and it 507 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: all stemmed out of, you know, some of the worst 508 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: times that have happened, death of my dad, death of 509 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: my grandmother. And it's really exciting to me that you 510 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: know have Greater Reality groups and I'd love to be 511 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: your partner with sharing that and Greater Reality Living with 512 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: the world. Thank you for that, Sandra Um. Yes, people 513 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: can visit Greater Reality Living dot com. There links and 514 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: tabs on starting a group, joining a group. It's all 515 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: very well set up, as you say, when we really 516 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: know who we are, it's a game change. And that 517 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: doesn't mean life's perfect. For example, you know, when I 518 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: love one passes on, it doesn't take away all the 519 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: sadness or pain, but it definitely lightens it. It's the 520 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 1: difference between saying goodbye to someone knowing that we'll never 521 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: see them again, versus saying see you later m hm. 522 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: And it's a see you later. It's like they went 523 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: on a vacation first, and you're going to meet them 524 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: at the destination, but you've got some work to do 525 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: before you get on the airplane. Yes, that's what I say. 526 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: How can someone get a copy of the Greater Reality 527 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: Living Book? Well, if they google, it's available through Amazon, 528 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: of courses and everything everything they combine off my website 529 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: soul proof dot com, as well as while I'm mentioning 530 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: soul proof dot com, I just hit. Over the years, 531 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: I have created articles with holistic solutions for the biggest 532 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: questions and problems people encounter when I love one passes, 533 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: when a loved one dies by side and actually I 534 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: should clean up my language like the titles we say when, um, 535 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: the body of a loved one dies by suicide, because 536 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: we want to be very clear your loved one didn't die, 537 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: just the body did. And that's such a huge distinction, 538 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: and we need to upgrade our language so that our 539 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: brains really understand that. An article for people who are 540 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: sensive and empathic, which is very common, holistic health information, uh, etcetera, etcetera, 541 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: all sorts of techniques. So those are all free articles 542 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: at soul proof dot com. Also, numerous radio shows I 543 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: had over the years with people like Wayne Dyer, Brian Wise, 544 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: Raymond Moody, Michael Newton, I needed more, Johnny Carolyn Mace 545 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: made just top names discussing these various topics. You know, 546 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: who am I, why am I here? What happens after 547 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: I die? How can I identify my mission? Et cetera. 548 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: So these are all free resources at soul proof dot 549 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: com for your listeners. Thank you for that. It's great 550 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: to be able to share because there's always so much more. 551 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 1: And some of those folks that you talked about I 552 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: may never interview, and to have that those conversations out 553 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: there because I wasn't having a bad day before you 554 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: and I got on this conversation Mark, but I wouldn't 555 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: say it was a great day. But something inside me said, 556 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: after this conversation, it'll be a great day. So we 557 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: all need resources to plug us back into this greater 558 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: reality and remind us of who we are. So thank 559 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: you for having all those resources at soul proof dot com. 560 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: My pleasure. And it gets better than that. The beginning 561 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 1: of next year, we will start what are called SEED events, 562 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: Seed being an acronym for soul phone education, ethics and demonstration. 563 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 1: And just a side note, the ethics part comes in. Um, 564 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: we're very cognizant of the potential downsides of this communication technology. Uh, 565 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, when the cell phone and computer industry started, 566 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how much attention they paid to the 567 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: potential abuses. And now, for example, people getting hacked, identity theft, 568 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: and so on due these technological devices. Well. Dr Schwartz, 569 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: being the very caring personally is he said, I can't 570 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: open Pandora's box without prudent safeguards in place, and so 571 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: we want people to be clear from the beginning and 572 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: even when the devices are ready, they won't It won't 573 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: be like something you can go buy the store they 574 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: will be at centers, initially cell phone centers where people 575 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: can use the technology, but where there will be safeguards 576 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: in place protection and so on. Also, you know counseling. 577 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't imagine if a person after a 578 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: meaningful visit, that's gonna be life changing for them, So 579 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: they may need some to talk for a while and 580 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: some counseling. So we're thinking all this through. So that's 581 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: the ethics part the seat events. Then we'll start and 582 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: give these demonstrations because as the saying goes, seeing is believing. 583 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: This will be a full day event. First, um Dr 584 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 1: Schwarz will present. Now he and his wife Ronda, who's 585 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: one of the evidential mediums, will be presenting by zoom. 586 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: You know they'll they will be ensconce than the research 587 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: at the University of Arizona. So then I got to 588 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: travel around the country. But first Dr Schwarz will present 589 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: on the science behind on this all this on the 590 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: soul phone. Ronda being a uh she calls herself a 591 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: research medium. In other ways, she doesn't do readings for people. 592 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: All of her work is with the a team bringing 593 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: through information for the various researchers. She will speak about 594 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: evidential mediums, what those are, and then also about the 595 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: A team, some of the background news and some of 596 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: what they bring through UH snippets that she has gathered 597 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: over the years about what their life is like. Now, Mark, 598 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: I hate to interrupt you, but we need to take 599 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 1: a short break and when we come back, we'll ask 600 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: your part in all of these seed events and more 601 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: of the future for the soul Phone. You're listening to 602 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and 603 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. 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I will 636 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 1: present about the greater reality living, that is, how might 637 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: we live differently once we know without a doubt that 638 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: we're eternal beings and the various benefits of all of this. 639 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: Then we will move into the demonstration mode, first of all, 640 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: showing the equipment for the first time ever to the 641 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: public and showing first what does it look like when 642 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: there's baseline because all of all these experiments have what 643 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: we called no participant controls. Now as we we need 644 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 1: to have control groups. What happens when no one's touching 645 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: the equipment, when no one's in the room human or 646 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: post material And it's pretty much like a flatline e 647 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: k g. You know, the data hovers along the X 648 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: axis pretty much not much. I mean, it's going to 649 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: pick up some electromagnetic fields from furlescent lights of one 650 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: tin outlets, what we call background noise. Then and we 651 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: will have an attendee from the audience come up and 652 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 1: touch whichever device we're using and show what is the 653 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: impact of their physicality, their energy and it's huge for 654 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: humans that will be visible light and it will be 655 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: a big overhead screen so you can see the change 656 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:59,720 Speaker 1: in the light patterns. Also, graphs are produced instantaneously, huge 657 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: graph showing the difference between a yes and no answer, 658 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: and then the statistical significances computed again instantaneously. The software 659 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: for all this is upgraded monthly. It's just it's amazing. 660 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: It's magical. Then and one of the A team will 661 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: come on and touch the devices and then we'll see 662 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: the effect of their input. Now, this is fascinating to me. 663 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: A few years ago, Dr Schwartz said, on an average, 664 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: a post material person's signal was about one thousand that 665 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: of a human. Yeah, which is very small, but it 666 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: was still very highly statistical significant versus a baseline control. Well, 667 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: then about a year ago he started saying, they're averaging 668 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: one now, you know, which is ten times better than 669 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: what they were doing in our last round of experiments, 670 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: which took about two months to run thousands and thousands 671 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: of sessions. Their energy was seven percent of what a 672 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: humans is. Well, and that's seven times what they were 673 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: doing when it was one album hundred. But the part 674 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: that really blows my mind is about a month ago, 675 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: a Hollywood videography team came to the lab at Tucson 676 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:29,280 Speaker 1: to prepare for a series of documentaries about the Soul Phone, 677 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: and the producer was direct near thinking the videographer is 678 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: taking two and a half hours of footage. The A 679 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: team member for that is a woman named Susie Smith 680 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,720 Speaker 1: who passed in two thousand one, but she and Gary 681 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: were friends before she passed on. Susie wrote thirty books 682 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: on psychic medium and afterlife topics. Susie Smith s u 683 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,879 Speaker 1: s why she lived almost aged ninety. She was wheelchair 684 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 1: bound for the last couple decades of her life, and 685 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: before she passed, one of her things was I can't 686 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,280 Speaker 1: wait to die so I can come back and prove 687 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: no one really dies. That made her a sing like 688 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: that before. So she was chosen to be the A 689 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,800 Speaker 1: team member for this demonstration that was being professionally filmed. 690 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: She knocked it out of the part. She achieved forty 691 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: percent of what the human effect is forty two fists 692 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: of what a human does. So we've gone from one 693 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: thousand to carry said, yeah, no, wonder you know she's 694 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: been waiting all these years, about twenty years to show 695 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: us that no one really dies. She just did it, 696 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 1: you know with whatever they're saying in spades, M that's incredible. Yeah. 697 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,479 Speaker 1: So those will be the seat events and then there'll 698 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 1: be a wrap up. Dr Schwartz come back in and 699 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: answer questions, will talk the impact of this. So again 700 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: we'll be doing is on weekends. I have a team 701 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 1: of event planners who will be helping set them up 702 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: and those public demonstrations then should really you know, launch 703 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: this media being present, people really getting and we're so 704 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: excited about between that, the greater reality living groups seeing 705 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:32,280 Speaker 1: change in our lifetime metamorphosis as more and more people. 706 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: We call them the per centers, and I derive that 707 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: term from the work of Michael Newton, founder of Life 708 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: Between Lives therapy. Dr Newton and his he has about 709 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:49,760 Speaker 1: twenty five trained therapists have conducted thirty five thousand Life 710 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: between Live sessions and something like twenty three countries. So 711 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: they've mapped out very well that on average, about eight 712 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,720 Speaker 1: of p born earth or what they call beginner souls, 713 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 1: and this is there's no judgment involved, it's just how 714 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: many times they've been around the block and how much 715 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 1: they've learned. Another twelve or thirteen percent would be considered 716 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 1: intermediate souls and then two to three percent advanced. And 717 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,479 Speaker 1: so I'm fairly good at math. I put together those 718 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: intermediate advanced numbers and came up with fifteen percent. So 719 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 1: we're not going to reach everyone. You know, as as 720 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: we are talking before we started the interview, there are skeptics, 721 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: There are closed minded people, There are people who are imbalanced. 722 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: There people who are so in so much pain that 723 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: they lash out and criticize. And we know we're not 724 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: going to touch everyone, and we know we're gonna have 725 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: the skeptics. But if even a half of the fifteen 726 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 1: percenters would mobilize and brighten the corner where they are, 727 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 1: do what they came here to do, share their greatest gifts, 728 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: the changes in our world would be un believably powerful 729 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: and quick. Not to mention all the impact from the 730 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: many near death experiences, the many brief parents who are 731 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: choosing to transmute their pain into service. Um, we have 732 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: some really exciting changes starting to kick in. Now, it's 733 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 1: just tremendous. How do we find out about the upcoming 734 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 1: seat events? But we find that on soul phone dot org. Yes, 735 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: and also Greater Reality Living dot com. And also people 736 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: who sign up for our free newsletters, whether it's the 737 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: soul proof dot com newsletter or the one from the 738 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 1: two websites we just mentioned, will receive updates about when 739 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: these events are We're five months out. The time will 740 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: go by very quickly and there'll be more and more. 741 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,839 Speaker 1: Mark we just have a few minutes left, or there 742 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: anything else you'd like to share, or something I should 743 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: have asked you that I haven't, or if you just 744 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,760 Speaker 1: want to reach in for some words of inspiration, sure well, 745 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,800 Speaker 1: I'd like to share something I have. In the February 746 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,959 Speaker 1: of two thousand and eighteen, I was at the home 747 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: of Dr Gary and Ron the Schwartz. They were gifting 748 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: me a session with the A team, the ability to 749 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 1: ask a number of questions of the A team, and 750 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 1: it was the first time they had been asked anything 751 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: that was of a non technological nature. So I had 752 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: thought for weeks, Oh my god, you know what what 753 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: would I ask? Because this is the cream of the 754 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 1: crop of people who lived on Earth. Well, my first 755 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: question was how can we create world peace? How can 756 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: we have harmony our planet? And Albert answered through round 757 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: and this is discussed in our book Greater Raality Living 758 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,919 Speaker 1: he said, Wow, that's a tough one. I noticed that 759 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: things are really no better than when I was on Earth. 760 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 1: The causes of disharmony and the solutions needed for them 761 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 1: are many. And he said, oh I can tell you 762 00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 1: is listen to your inner hearts calling do what you're 763 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: most passionate about, and know that that's your contribution. And frankly, 764 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 1: I was a little disappointed. I thought, Okay, you're Albert Einstein, 765 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: for God's sake. Plus you've dropped your filtration, you know, 766 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 1: limiting filtration of your brain. I thought you'd come up 767 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: with something more than that. But I moved on to 768 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: my second one. I said, okay, uh, Dr Schwartzon are 769 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 1: getting ready to publish our book Greater Reality Living. Is 770 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: there anything we've missed in it? And Ron said, well, Mark, 771 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: you have to realize that even though they're seeing more 772 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 1: the Greater Reality than we on Earth, they're not omniscient. 773 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: And we haven't talked to them about the book. You know, 774 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: we're always talking about soul phone. Can you just getting 775 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 1: over it? So I did the life formula what I 776 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: just mentioned earlier, learned the evidence, Internalize this great news, 777 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 1: vitalize yourself, enjoy the benefits and serve others and make 778 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,879 Speaker 1: the world a better place. And when I went over 779 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: that brief overview of the book, Einstein shouted through, Runda, 780 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: that's it. You just answered your first question. That's great. 781 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: And it took me a moment to realize what was 782 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,320 Speaker 1: being said. But when I did, I had goose bumps 783 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 1: on top of goose bumps. If I had hair on 784 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: top of my head, it would have been standing straight up. 785 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: And they said what you just went over is sufficient 786 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 1: to help change the world. They said, you have covered 787 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 1: all the bases. You just needed to get out there. 788 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: And David Bohm, who was a Princeton mathematician and quantum 789 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 1: physicist colleague of Einstein, said, run, don't walk. Share this 790 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: with as many people as possible, as quickly and boldly 791 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: as you can. And he said, and don't be concerned 792 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: about critics. We had them when we were on Earth. 793 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: You're going to have them definitely. Just let their uninformed, 794 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: unfair attacks run off your back like water off a 795 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:05,479 Speaker 1: ducks back. And that jazz is needless to say that 796 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,240 Speaker 1: we were on the right track. And that's why I 797 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 1: really appreciate getting the word out your listeners about the 798 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: Greater Reality Living book, the groups, the soul phone technology 799 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 1: that can help people's biggest problems and also mobilize them too. 800 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: You said something earlier when you're talking about you had 801 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: courage when faced with obstacles. It was a beautiful way 802 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: you put it. Well. Likewise, this knowledge and these groups 803 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,760 Speaker 1: and this support can be the key that triggers people say, Okay, 804 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna shake off this feeling of hopelessness, 805 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 1: this inertia, and I am going to do what I can, 806 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: even if it's a little bit. It's a really good advice. Well, Mark, 807 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being our guest today. Well, 808 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 1: thank you for all you do and for sharing this 809 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: information with others. Sandra, you're welcome and thank you to 810 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 1: our listeners. You can check out everything at soul proof 811 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: dot com and a reminder to go to we Don't 812 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 1: Diet dot com for so many afterlife things. In all 813 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: past episodes, I'm Sandra Champlain. You've been listening to Shades 814 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast 815 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: to Coast, a m paranormal podcast network. And if you 816 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,800 Speaker 1: like this episode of Shades of the Afterlife, wait until 817 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: you hear the next one, Thank you for listening to 818 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a m 819 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,240 Speaker 1: paranormal podcast network.