1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,279 Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number one zero four of the Battleground Podcast. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: It's battle And on the show today, of course, we're 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: gonna talk about the thing that everybody wants to talk about, 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Goldberg beating the Fiend at Super Showdown and what it's 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: set up for Elimination Chamber with what happened Friday night, 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: and then of course Sena and the Fiend we get 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: into a. 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: Little bit of that. 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: We also talk about aw's pay per view revolution that 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: happens Saturday night. We talk about Ring of Honor in 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Town Friday night, and we just get into a whole 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, and that's what we do on the 13 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: show today. So sit back, relax, and uh let's ring 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: that bell and start the show. 15 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the battle Ground Podcast. This 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: is a podcast all about professional wrestling, joined Battle and 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: Eli as a breakdown what's going on in the world 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 3: of professional wrestling with special guests including some of your 19 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: favorite wrestling superstars. You never know who's gonna stop by 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: now making their way to the microphone. 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: Give it up for the. 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: Greatest podcast team in the world. Battle and Ela. 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: And Weird back for another episode of the Battleground Podcast. 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: Battle is here. 25 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't know why I literally just said that third person. 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: Can we please just restart this again? And I'm just 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: gonna say, welcome to the Battleground Podcast. I'm Battle along. 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: With Elijah Buenos nochis See. 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: I just started talking like Bob Dole for a second, 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: like in that Simpsons episode. We're like Bob Dole like this, 31 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: and it just sounds very weird. 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 4: Battle is a fan of pro wrestling. Battle likes this. Battle. 33 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Battle is all this. Yeah blah blah blah. 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: But anyways, Yes, so welcome to another episode of the 35 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: Battleground Podcast. This is a weekly podcast all about professional wrestling, 36 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: and on today's episode, we're going to talk about the 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: big controversy that has the wrestling world up in their arms, 38 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: thrown in the air trying to figure out what's going 39 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: on to No, we're not talking about Cody Rhods neck tattoo, 40 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: but we will talk about that. 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 4: We want to talk is controversial. It is very controversial. 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: But we want to talk about the events that took 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: place at Super a Superstar Showdown, super Show whatever they're 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: calling it. 45 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 4: Now, the Stinky Showdown. 46 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: Yes, the space filler for a spot on WWE network 47 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: to we'll have people watching during their lunch break. There 48 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: is a lot of controversy, and as you can tell 49 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: from our Instagram Battleground podcast, we actually had people arguing 50 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: over two of the matches set for WrestleMania. That kind 51 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: of helped put the ball in motion at Superstar whatever. 52 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: But stinky, Yeah, we are going to talk about the 53 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: Goldberg Fiend match. 54 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about what happened with that. 55 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: I do want to talk about how congratulations to the 56 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Undertaker for winning the Global Guts Championship. 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: That's what that trophy looked like to me. 58 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, yeah, kudos to him the fact he 59 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: came out hit a pile driver or a tombstone and 60 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: didn't even take his jacket or his hat off. But yeah, 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: Friday night we got to hang out at Ring of Honor, 62 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: which is also really cool. We got to meet PCO, 63 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: which we could post photos of that later, which bummer 64 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: that something happened the next night for Ring of Honor 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: that didn't happen for us. There is a title change 66 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: spoiler alerd if you haven't seen it, Rouche beat PCO 67 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: thanks to a certain guy by the name of the 68 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: National Treasure Nick Aldus, which we'll kind of talk about. 69 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: That unofficial real World tivoweight. 70 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: Champion, which, by the way, that belt is beautiful in person. 71 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: We saw at Friday night at Minicipal Auditorium. But yeah, 72 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: so we got a lot to talk about, and of 73 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: course we're going to talk about everything that took place 74 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: Saturday night with aw there was a watch party that 75 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: the show did. Unfortunately I was not there because I 76 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: was a chaperoning a date from my oldest son and 77 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: we took him to the Prebs game with his girlfriend. 78 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 4: I mean, that's priorities, you know. 79 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, which was fun. So let's let's kind of just 80 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: jump right into it. We'll just we'll dress the elephant 81 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: in the room, we'll knock it out, get it out 82 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: of the way. 83 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: We'll talk about the crap first. 84 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the crap and then we'll save the 85 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: good stuff for the end. So let's go ahead and 86 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: talk about it. Goldberg versus the Fiend, Goldberg. 87 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: Wins the championshow. 88 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 4: That is what happened. 89 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: And I'm just sitting here thinking, Okay, when I was 90 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: watching it in person, because I was watching it before 91 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: we were going to do our flip Gordon interview, and 92 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: I was just kind of watching it and they came 93 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: out to the thing. 94 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: Goldberg hit the spear right away, and I was like, 95 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: you've got. 96 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: To be kidding me, Like, are we really going to 97 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: start the match off and it's going to be over 98 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: like that was the main event. And so I'm sitting there, 99 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: Goldberg hits a spear, pins him one two, and I 100 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: was like, You've got to be kidding me. This is 101 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: literally about to be the shortest match. And I get 102 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: that you book Goldberg to squash people, Like I get 103 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: that's what Goldberg's character was in the. 104 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: Nineties, but you know, we're in the you know, a 105 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 2: new decade. 106 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're trying to do we're three decades past the 107 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 4: the nineties now. 108 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: So yeah. 109 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: So so Goldberg hit the spear, they kind of toss 110 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: it around. I think he hit a second spear, and 111 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: then I want to say, Bray hit him with the 112 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: mandible claw. Goldberg got out of it. Goldberg hit him 113 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: with another spear and then another spear. Bray hit him 114 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: with the mandible claw, and then Goldberg attempted a jackknife, 115 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: but it really was just a souplex and Goldberg the. 116 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 4: Mister Riddle commented it was it was the bro Hammer, Yes, 117 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 4: that's what. I don't know if he posted it or 118 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 4: someone else did, but basically it was a picture of 119 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 4: Brock with his belt and a picture of Goldberg with 120 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 4: his belt, and then it was a picture of Matt 121 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: Riddle just kind of shocked, like, bro like, my two 122 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: enemies are the world chance, you know, or not my enemies, 123 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: but the two he wants to fight or whatever. 124 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: It just needs to happen. And then yeah, Goldberg picked 125 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: up the win. 126 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: And what's weird was that they automatically already had the 127 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: Blue Championship belt ringside. Like being a wrestling fan, it 128 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: would have been kind of much cooler in my opinion, 129 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: if Goldberg was holding the Fiend's belt. But the fact 130 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: that you pretty much just spoiled it, gave it, gave 131 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: him the blue belt that was already sitting there. 132 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, it's like, why would you bring that 133 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 4: if you did, if you you know, already knew whatever, And. 134 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: It's just I don't get it, I really don't. 135 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: So I'll kind of spill it real quick. So there 136 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 4: was rumors that this was going to happen before the event, 137 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: you know, they did. It was two things that they 138 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 4: were talking about. Vents was thinking that Goldberg and Roman 139 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: was a bigger main event than Roman and bray Watt, 140 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 4: which at that point, you know, you're not you don't 141 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 4: have h You're not you don't have faith in your 142 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 4: current stars. So if you're building up bray Wyatt like 143 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: you've done for a year and then you're just like, Eh, 144 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: you're not good enough for the main event of WrestleMania, 145 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: why are you building him up? Like why are you 146 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 4: wasting all this time? Why are you doing this? You know, 147 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 4: he's more over than almost anyone on the roster right now, 148 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 4: He's selling more merch than anybody. You know, he's gotten 149 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: Hollywood involved. The Tom Savini made his belt, I mean 150 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: like he's a big deal, and he feels like a 151 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 4: big deal. He feels like a really important character, you know, 152 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 4: something they haven't had in a while. And then on 153 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: top of that, it was like, so not only is 154 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: it like a better he thought it was a better 155 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: main event or would sell more or whatever, but also 156 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 4: I think it's he was saying, I think there's rumors 157 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: about like he doesn't think Brad needs a belt or something, 158 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I. 159 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Think I saw that too, of like Bray's characters better 160 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: off without a belt. 161 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: I mean, which I kind of get to a degree, 162 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: but like, I don't know, like. 163 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: This is just like when he won the title back 164 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: when he was like the you know, the Eater Worlds 165 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: or words. 166 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, the elimination Chamber, yeah, yeah, and so and then 167 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: on top of that, you know you've got the you know, 168 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: now you've got the inevitable spear versus spear match. It 169 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: was just stupid. Nobody wants to see that. But you 170 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 4: know it's like, I mean, you go back and you 171 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: look at like, you know, you've basically made Bray White 172 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 4: and like practically indestructible, you know what I mean. And 173 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: he had the cool dynamic to where he could wrestle 174 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: as Bray White and and kind of wrestle a normal match, 175 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 4: and then he could wrestle as the Fiend And it's 176 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: just kind of like you know, Finn Balor when he's 177 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: the Demon King, Like, right, that's it, that's lights out. 178 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 4: You're not gonna win. So to have the and be 179 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: squashed by a fifty three year old who's wrestled five 180 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 4: times in the last twenty years is really kind of lame. 181 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: We were talking about it on Instagram with some people 182 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 4: and somebody commented about, you know this, this is the 183 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 4: biggest show of the year and they have to sell 184 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 4: the most tickets and blah blah blah, and I would 185 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 4: just disagree with that. They don't need help selling WrestleMania tickets. 186 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 187 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 4: If this was Great Balls of Fire or you know 188 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: the name they copied us from Battleground or you know, 189 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 4: some kind of random thing, sure, if it's one of 190 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: the Big Four, they don't need help at all. I mean, 191 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: especially the WrestleMania. WrestleMania is bid on by cities like 192 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 4: it's the freaking super Bowl. Like, I mean, they don't 193 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 4: need the super Bowl. It is the super Bowl of wrestling, 194 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: but I mean cities like bid for it, like they're 195 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 4: trying to get the super Bowl. Like they don't need 196 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: any help with the with WrestleMania at all. So you know, 197 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: when I hear that, that's that's that's a cop out, 198 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: that's that's that's lame. They don't need any help at all. 199 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: I think the casual wrestler knows what WrestleMania is. I 200 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 4: think you're you know, you're maybe active fan, but it's 201 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 4: not you know, they don't buy belts and they don't 202 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 4: go to all the shows, but they kind of keep 203 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 4: up with on TV. They know what WrestleMania is. You're 204 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: hardcore fans know what WrestleMania is. Like I mean, I 205 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 4: could go up to you know, go up to the 206 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 4: local Walmart and just walk up to anybody and say, hey, 207 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 4: do you know what WrestleMania is? Most people are going 208 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 4: to know what that event is. 209 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: Of the people are going to know. 210 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: I mean, it's in the lexicon now, it's a common thing. 211 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: You know, they bring out you know, Hollywood stars and 212 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 4: music acts, and you know they usually have famous people 213 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 4: singing the national anthem. You know that that's that's not 214 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 4: valid at all. I don't. I don't believe that whatsoever. 215 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: So it's people just wanting to just stir the pot anymore. 216 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: But I mean you look at how much money, whatever state, 217 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: whatever city gets WrestleMania, and it's literally, I mean we've 218 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: talked about it. It's literally the super Bowl is a 219 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: week long event. Because the thing is is not only 220 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: does wwe do their rolling you know Hall of Fame thing, 221 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: we're all access and this and that, but you also 222 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: thrive off of the indie scene because then they all 223 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: bring their promotions around WrestleMania, and whatever city it's in, 224 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna be making bank that entire weekend. 225 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: I mean, the whole wrestling world revolves around that city 226 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 4: for about a week. Yeah, because I mean with the 227 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: ww access, I think they started on like Wednesday, and 228 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 4: it goes Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and then they 229 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 4: have the Raw after. 230 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: And then the Hall of Fame in the Hall. 231 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 4: Of Fame, which is usually the Friday or Saturday night 232 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 4: NXT takeover they used to have it. I don't know 233 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: how they'll do it this year, but it used to be, 234 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: you know, WrestleMania was Sunday, Raw was Monday, SmackDown was Tuesday, 235 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 4: so you were there almost a full week. You would 236 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: start the events the Wednesday before and it would run 237 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 4: through the Tuesday after and then you were finished. So 238 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: and you know, also going back, I mean, they just 239 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 4: broke the attendance record in twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen 240 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: when they're in Dallas, So it's not like this is 241 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 4: you know, it's not like the WrestleMania three from eighty seven, 242 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: which was thirty three years ago. I mean, like they 243 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 4: just set this record a couple of years ago, you 244 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: know what I mean. So it's it's bigger now. It's 245 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 4: as big or bigger now than it's ever been. And 246 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: this is back in the eighties and the heyday, when 247 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: you know, that was pretty much all they had to 248 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: look forward to. So and then you know, now with 249 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: Bray White going with John Cena at WrestleMania, what do 250 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 4: you do there? I mean, John Cena's one of your 251 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: legendary performers, obviously going in the Hall of Fame at 252 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: some point. He's your next big guy that's going to 253 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: be the Hollywood star, kind of like The Rock. He's 254 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 4: about to be in the new Fast and Furious with 255 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 4: the Rock. Well, I don't remember. Actually, I don't think 256 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 4: The Rock's in this sequel. But anyways, no, I don't. 257 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it might play like a cameo. 258 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: But yeah, because I think when the Hobbes movie was filming, 259 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 4: that was when Fast nine or twenty four or whatever 260 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 4: it is was about to start filming, so he couldn't go. 261 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 4: So I think it will be like a cameo thing. 262 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 4: But he's in the franchise with the rock now, So 263 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 4: so what do you have him come back and his 264 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 4: only match in a year year and a half he loses, 265 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 4: you know, or do you make the fiend lose again 266 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 4: after he just lost to a part timer? Like, like, 267 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 4: why do you do that? You know? 268 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: I think that Scena though, because we talked about this 269 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: the other night with the Girls or the Ring of 270 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: Bonnor event, which we'll kind of talk about that here 271 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: in a little bit as well, I think that Scena 272 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: is just kind of at that point in his career 273 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: that win loss doesn't really matter. 274 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I agree with that, but like I also 275 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: he this is the longest he's been away from wrestling too, 276 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 4: so I just I don't see him. You know, he's 277 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 4: hosting that TV show Nick, and he's doing award shows, 278 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 4: and he's doing talk show appearances, and you know, he 279 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 4: just had that Firefighter movie. He's got the Fast movie 280 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 4: now he was didn't he had a kid's movie he voiced, 281 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 4: or I think he's done a couple of kids movies 282 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: like cartoon. 283 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got like a cartoon movie and he did 284 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: like a monster truck cartoon, yeah, series or movie or something. 285 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,119 Speaker 2: But it's one of those things because it's. 286 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: You know, like you said, I mean, scene is not 287 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: going to come back to lose, but he's probably coming back, 288 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: so we can at least kind of push out, you know, 289 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: Fast twenty eight or whatever it is. 290 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: And I think only started to cut you off. I 291 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 4: think you even mentioned it too, about how a lot 292 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 4: of times stuff like this happens to put somebody over. 293 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 4: Bray Whitet doesn't need to be put over. He was 294 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: popular before the Fiend all that stuff hit. I mean, 295 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 4: people were like dying for him to like get a push. 296 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 4: And then when you know, me and you both were 297 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 4: kind of hesitant about the fun Firefly Funhouse and kind 298 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: of like what is going on? And then finally when 299 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: you start seeing flashes of the Fiend, were like, okay, 300 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: here we go. And then when you finally saw what 301 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 4: was going on, it was it was just through the roof. 302 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: And I haven't amazing. I haven't seen someone take off 303 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 4: like that in a long time. So so I'm in 304 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 4: agreement with you. I don't think that that's necessary. Bray 305 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: White does not need to push, he doesn't need to 306 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 4: be put over at all. So anyways, I just and less. 307 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: Here's the only thing though, unless they're trying to implement 308 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: something new with Bray Wyatt to where maybe we finally 309 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: see sister Abigail. Maybe that witch comes to life, that's 310 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: the doll. 311 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: Maybe that would be cool. Yeah, I could see that 312 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: kind of paying off. 313 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: I could see that so that way, you know, and 314 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: now that I lose and Bray doesn't, you know, lose clean, 315 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: it's kind of. 316 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 4: Or if the Sister Abigail does materialize, then maybe she 317 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 4: costs scene of the match and that's why, you know, 318 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 4: he didn't lose clean. 319 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: Maybe we finally will see Abyss. 320 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 4: Oh there you go. I know he's been a producer 321 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 4: over there for a while. I don't know if he's 322 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: ever like made an effort to wrestle, So I don't 323 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 4: know that would be interesting. 324 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: But because I think he's one of the voices of 325 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: the conference, it's what it sounds like. 326 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I wouldn't that makes sense. 327 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: Could be I don't know, but but I think. 328 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: Like maybe now he's kind of done his you know, 329 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 4: singles run and he was world champion and YadA, YadA, YadA, 330 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: and now maybe he you know, maybe not quite the 331 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 4: Wyatt family, but maybe he introduces a stable and he 332 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 4: has like the Firefly Funhouse Gang, and you know, sister 333 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: Abigail's there, and he has somebody that has like the 334 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 4: bunny mask on, or you know, maybe he kind of 335 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 4: does something to where he kind of moves in a 336 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 4: slightly different direction or something. And then but. 337 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: Kind of like the puppets come to real life. 338 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 4: Right, And then you know, you brought up a good 339 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 4: point too, and we'll mention this just because it does 340 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 4: involve our past guest Seamus, But you know that also 341 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 4: completely nulls the elimination chamber. The limitation elimination chamber was 342 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: set up to determine who was the next opponent for 343 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 4: the Fiend for the world title. Well, as soon as 344 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 4: the Goldbird thing hit, they just got one ahead and 345 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 4: gave it to Roman. So now what now, what do 346 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 4: you do with that pay per view? And luckily I 347 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: was just reading, so I guess Seamus has taken Roman 348 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 4: reigns place. But like you just you said before we 349 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 4: start recording, is this for the Intercontinental title? 350 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: Now? 351 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 4: Like why is this match happening? Like what is the point? 352 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: So then, and there's nothing wrong with the Intercontinental Championship, 353 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong about that. 354 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: It's a prestigious title. 355 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: But it's like you when you do elimination chambers, you 356 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: don't do it for you know, the mid card belt. 357 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: You do it for I mean, you could do it 358 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: for the tag team titles. I get that, cause I 359 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: think they're doing that one for the women, I believe, 360 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: But you do it for your big ones, your women's championship, 361 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: your men's heavyweight Championship. 362 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: You don't do it for. Yeah, you're not gonna have 363 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 2: stage championship. 364 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 4: You're not going to have an elimination chamber for the 365 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 4: twenty four to seven title, you know. I mean, like 366 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 4: it's always historically like a big thing. So so there's 367 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 4: just so many like it just seems like a rash decision, 368 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: and you know, Vince McMahon is known for those and 369 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 4: obviously the logic of this doesn't line up very well, 370 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 4: especially with the limited nation chamber having no meaning now. 371 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: So I don't know, you know, I I growing up, 372 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: We've talked about it. I was a w CW guy. 373 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 4: I mean I obviously was, you know, right in the 374 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: middle of Goldberg Mania when all that hit, and you know, 375 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 4: just seeing him before he won all the belts. Just like, dude, 376 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: this guy is incredible, Like I mean he's in there 377 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 4: for ninety seconds and he's just plowing through everyone. And 378 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 4: you know, I remember he fought Hugh Morris and then 379 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 4: he fought you know, kind of some of the B 380 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 4: level guys, you know, not just jobbers, and I was like, man, 381 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 4: he's going through you know, blah blah blah, you know. 382 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: And so I mean it was always I always liked 383 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 4: you know, that ninety seven ninety eight run of his 384 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 4: before the col prade of Death from Scott Hall. Oh yeah, 385 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 4: but uh and I and hey, I'm not gonna fault 386 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 4: anybody for coming back because based on how much money 387 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 4: they make for the Saudi Arabia shows, I wouldn't be 388 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 4: surprised if Gilblerd made two or three or four million 389 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 4: bucks for one match that he fought for what three minutes? 390 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 4: Four minutes? 391 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you give or take. 392 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: So I can't fault him for that at all. And 393 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 4: then I'm sure he's gonna get a pretty good payday 394 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 4: for Mania. I did hear something about they think that 395 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 4: he's going to be retiring soon, which you know, he 396 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: looks incredible for fifty three, but you know, I don't. 397 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: Jack Camerdan look incredible though. 398 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 4: No, I mean, he's had two rough matches back to back, 399 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 4: you know, or well, I guess he had the Dolph 400 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 4: one in between them. But still, so I just don't 401 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 4: think a part timer, and that's being loose. I mean, 402 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 4: he's not part time in the sense that, you know, 403 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: he came back in twenty seventeen after not wrestling for 404 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 4: almost fifteen years and had, you know, the one match 405 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 4: with Brock, the Royal Rumble, the one match with Kevin Owens, 406 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 4: and then the one match with Brock where he dropped 407 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 4: the title. So he had four matches and then he 408 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: had Undertaker, which was a disaster, and then he had 409 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 4: Doll and then he just had the Fence. So he's 410 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 4: wrestled seven times in the last sixteen years. That's not 411 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 4: part time. That's that's below part time. That's even less 412 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 4: than a part timer, you know. So I just don't 413 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 4: think a part timer needs to have the world title. 414 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: It hurts, you know, like it did more damage to 415 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 4: bray Wyatt than it did to benefit Roman and the 416 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: Goldberg match, you know. So I don't know, I don't 417 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 4: watch those events. I haven't watched one since they started 418 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 4: doing the crap. Mainly the political reasons behind it, but 419 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 4: I just I'm at work so when it's going on, 420 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 4: so like, I just don't have a smooth way to 421 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 4: you know, access it while I'm doing stuff. But I'm 422 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: not a fan of those events. I don't watch them, 423 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 4: I don't keep up with them. But this one was 424 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 4: arguably the worst they've done. I mean, it was just 425 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 4: tons of head scratchers and you know, Morrison is one 426 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: they'll tag tie that was pretty cool. But other than that, 427 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 4: it was just a you know, money grabs as usual. 428 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 2: It just it was kind of background noise for me. 429 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: It was just there just so we can kind of 430 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 1: talk about it as research material. 431 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 4: But yeah, that's not the best way to watch it. 432 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: It's and it's one of those things that you could 433 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: probably be on your phone and doing something else and 434 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: you could just be like, okay, cool because there's like 435 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: a few spots here and there and it's I do 436 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: The one thing that I do take away is how 437 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: awesome it is to see women's wrestling in Saudi Arabia now, 438 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: just because it's you know, never got the chance to 439 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: do that. And for the past two months they've had 440 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: women's wrestling on the show, which I think that's really cool, 441 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: but I just don't like how it all ended. But 442 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: I was telling a friend of mine, and I think 443 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: maybe me and you talked about it. It's a lot 444 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: easier for WrestleMania for Roman to beat Goldberg for the title. 445 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: Then I'm going to beat the Fiend for the title, 446 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: because if that would have happened, let's just put this 447 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: in perspective, if Goldberg didn't win, you know, then elimination 448 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: Chambers says, the same Roman would have won. Wrestling fans 449 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: would pretty much riot if Roman Reigns beat the Fiend 450 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: at WrestleMania, Whereas now it's not as bad and they're 451 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: probably thinking, oh, well, maybe we can get the fans 452 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: behind Roman Reigns because they hate Goldberg right now. 453 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, I think the casual fan will 454 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 4: like Goldberg more because they probably haven't watched religiously over 455 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 4: the last ten years. So when they hear Goldberg's back, 456 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 4: it's like, oh shit, you know, so like I think 457 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 4: that's actually going against that logic, you know. And then 458 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 4: but yeah, absolutely, that was that was the thing that 459 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: I said about. It was like, you know, he would 460 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: get and it was going down that road. You know, 461 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 4: That's exactly what was going to happen. It was going 462 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: to be Roman and Bray at WrestleMania, and so yeah, 463 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 4: he Roman, Roman will get less heat beating Goldberg for 464 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 4: the belt than he would bray White, for sure, because 465 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 4: it would have been it would have been it would 466 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 4: be a repeat of the Seth and bray White match 467 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 4: at Hell and Cell. 468 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, and I would be shocked if if Goldberg 469 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: beats Roman, but Romans Vince's boy. 470 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 4: So, I mean, the only thing that I can see 471 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: is just uh the uh the Mania that I was 472 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 4: at at New Orleans. They swerved it and Brock beat 473 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 4: Roman even though everyone assumed Roman was gonna win. So 474 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 4: so I don't know how long Goldberg's back, but I 475 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: am assuming he's gonna drop it. I don't think he's 476 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 4: going to be doing mini matches after WrestleMania, but I 477 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: don't know. We'll see so anyways, so that was a 478 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 4: very messy, sloppily executed, if you want to call it 479 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,239 Speaker 4: a pay per view. So now we'll get into like 480 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 4: the good stuff we got to see this weekend. 481 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Friday night we got to go and check 482 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: out Ring of Honor over there emin slat tour in 483 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: which h special thanks to Ring of Honor for all 484 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: the hookups and everything that they did for us. It 485 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: was awesome, and we set ringside for the entire night 486 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: and it was kind of funny. 487 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: David Arquette was there. 488 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 4: Unannounced. It was not a part of the show. I 489 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 4: was waiting for Leanna and KB to come in and 490 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: a flamboyant just guy walked in and when he kind 491 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 4: of turned around, I tapped Leyne on the shows like, Hey, 492 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 4: that's David Arquette and she's like what, And I just 493 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 4: wait for you as I Hey, come over here. And 494 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 4: so we made a little connection with him, and you know, 495 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 4: maybe we'll try to work something out with him. But yeah, 496 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 4: he just he bought a ticket at the box office 497 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 4: and was there watching wrestling as a fan. So you know, 498 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 4: if anyone ever tries to doubt, you know, his love 499 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 4: for wrestling or anything, I mean, he was in Nashville 500 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: on a Friday night and bought ticket like a fan 501 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 4: and was sitting ringside like everyone else. 502 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, and he's actually got a movie coming out. 503 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: I think it's like you Can't kill David arc kind. 504 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: I think that might be the name of it. I know, 505 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: he was kind of he handed a sticker to me 506 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: about it, and we kind of talked about the movie 507 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: and we're going to try to get him on the show. 508 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, so he was there, and we also met 509 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: some of the listeners that won the tickets of the show, 510 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: and they were awesome people. Glenn actually brought his daughter. 511 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: That was her first Ring of Honor show, so that 512 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: was a cool, you know moment for him. 513 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 4: That was a crazy solid show for a first show. 514 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was NonStop from the moment of that 515 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: bell ring till the end of the night. And I 516 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: mean you could watch it on Honor Club and you 517 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: could probably see our face there. 518 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was all in all a great night. 519 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: Like we said earlier in the show, we got to 520 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: meet PCO and talked to him for a little bit. 521 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: We'll post those photos up on our Instagram Battleground podcast 522 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,239 Speaker 1: as you could see him, which me and Eli kind 523 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: of talked about it. It was like, do you smile 524 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: when you're with PCO holding the title? Which I think 525 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: maybe we could have been bad luck for that holding 526 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: that title. 527 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I my picture looks really dumb because I was 528 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 4: about to just smile and then I was like, well, 529 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 4: I'm actually holding the act, you know, the official you know, 530 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 4: the the actual world Championship over Ring of Honor, you 531 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 4: know what I mean. So we've gotten lucky. You know, 532 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 4: We've got to see the aw tag Team titles, we 533 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 4: got to see the new Japan Tag Team titles, we 534 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 4: got to see the now we've seen the Ring of 535 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 4: Honor World Heavyweight Championship. So we've gotten lucky to actually 536 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 4: see the official belts. So right when the picture started, 537 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 4: I kind of tried to do a tough face and 538 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 4: it doesn't look very tough, so anyways, but I did 539 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 4: get to talk to him. I saw him at a 540 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 4: spring break two years ago, Joey Janella's spring break in 541 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 4: New Orleans with Walter, and that was really the match 542 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: to kind of put them both on the map. And 543 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 4: now Walter is the nxt UK Champion and the PCO 544 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 4: is the Ring of Banner World previously the World heavy 545 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: A Champion. I guess we'll explain that here in a second. 546 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 4: But yeah, so, uh, cart started. It was a Marty 547 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 4: versus Selex versus Bendido, So that was just right out 548 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 4: of the gate. That was the very first match. 549 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: And that was NonStop, and we had a group of 550 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: guys that were behind us. That was just they were 551 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: cool when they weren't yelling just random stuff. 552 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 4: And they admitted it was their first time at this 553 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 4: wrestling show. But like they just kept like they were 554 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 4: like almost kind of insulting the people. So like they 555 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 4: weren't just like, hey, you don't know how to wrestle 556 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 4: or whatever. I mean, they were like like this like vulgar, 557 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: Like they were calling the refs fat asses and just 558 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 4: like kind of making it personal. And it's like, you know, 559 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 4: this is a public service announcement, like they want the 560 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 4: crowd to be involved. Then they want they want that reaction. 561 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 4: They want you to cheer and stuff. But like you 562 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 4: don't have to go personal, so like you don't have 563 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 4: to be like, oh you're fat. Oh I'm gonna call 564 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 4: you fat, Like that's you. 565 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: Know, like you can yell like do your job, raf 566 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: learn how to count kind of thing, like. 567 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, keep the top of that. 568 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: That's acceptable. But like when you go after the ref 569 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 2: and you're like, hey, fat ash, so you do your cardio, 570 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: like bro, come on man. 571 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 4: And then on top of that, they were I guess 572 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 4: they were football coaches, and I was just like I 573 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 4: wonder what they do to their athletes. 574 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like that's gonna be fun. 575 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 4: So anyways, but yeah. 576 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: So I've got the I've got the card in front 577 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: of us because it kind of changed a little bit 578 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: because they dropped back and punted on a couple of things. 579 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, So it started off with Marty Selex and Bandido, 580 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: which was one hell of a match. I was bumm 581 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: because they didn't get to see the chicken wing because 582 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: Marty was about to do it and then boom got them. 583 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, so they. 584 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: Didn't get to do the chicken wing. 585 00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: And then after that match, I want to say it. 586 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: Was because I'm looking at the card right now, was it? 587 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 4: The was the four way? 588 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: The four way? 589 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: So it was Hendry and Castle, it was Lifeblood, Vinton 590 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: and Bateman, which is their phenomenal by the way, just 591 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: their character and the whole. 592 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: Crew that they have. And then it was like PJ. 593 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: Black and some other guy Brian Johnson, Yes, Brian Johnson. 594 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out his name, but they were ripping 595 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: him to the entire time. But that was that was 596 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: another great match. Dalton Castle and Hendry picked. 597 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: Up the win. 598 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: Let's see what else after that match was it the 599 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: two Guys one Tag versus Gresham and Lethal. 600 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 4: I don't know if this is the actual order. The 601 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: site that I'm on has the Nicole Savvy against him. 602 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Because Mandy came out with her 603 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: who shot a promo video for she did, and she 604 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: she looked over at KB and Lannan all them both 605 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: beautiful or pretty one of those two. 606 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: I can't remember. 607 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: I just remember the reaction to the girls were like 608 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: super excited about it. 609 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was a good match. 610 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: And then there was also, let's see because the card 611 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: I've got because like I said, they kind of dropped 612 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: back and punted on a couple of things here and there. 613 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 4: Was it too. 614 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,719 Speaker 1: So two Guys one Tag was the match that night 615 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: against Gresham and Lethal was for the tag team titles. 616 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 2: But it was the weird thing was was the two. 617 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: Guys one Tag were in the ring whatnot, and then 618 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: they got jumped by Gresham and Lethal and we were like, okay, 619 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: where's the belts at? And they never brought the belts 620 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: out until like somebody handed them to the side table. 621 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: That was a good match, Let's see. 622 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: I think the one match that was really really good 623 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: and very interesting to watch. Was the one with Kenny 624 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: King and Rouche versus Villain Enterprise. 625 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 4: And that one I think was before the tag titles. 626 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: I think that one, I believe so, because that one 627 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: guy was just sliding all over the mat cleaning up 628 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: the beer. 629 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that one was. I had that one as my 630 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 4: second I think the second best match of the night. 631 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 4: I mean it was really I mean they were outside 632 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 4: and they were using the sound cables to like hit 633 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 4: each other and choke people, and I mean it was very, 634 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 4: very physical, but. 635 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: It was about fifty five dollars worth of beer spilled. 636 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know what the deal is with wrestlers 637 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 4: and beer, but Hangman Page takes them from the crowd, 638 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 4: and a lot of the Ring of Honor people did. 639 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: Just here's my thing about that. It's like I'm a germophobe. 640 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't take somebody's beer from outside of the crowd 641 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: and just start drinking it. There's no telling what that 642 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: person's got. 643 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 4: Well, and that too, but I don't know what kind 644 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 4: of beer selection they chose. So if it's an IPA, 645 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 4: I'm just drinking Caro scene. Sometimes we'll throw it again. 646 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: And I just couldn't do that. But yeah, that match 647 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: was brutal. And there was the one thing because we 648 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: were talking about it the Ring of Honor as I'm 649 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: doing finger quotes the staff and security, we're sitting there 650 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: and here comes this big, huge dude just squaring up 651 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: to Brodie King and it's a Dalton Wade, who's a 652 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: wrestler here locally, and it was like, there's no chance 653 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: in hell Dalton's getting past this big boy. 654 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 655 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: But yes, it was a really cool thing and we 656 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: might or might not have been on TV. 657 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: I have to go back and watch it. I've got it. 658 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: I just haven't really paid attention. I haven't been able 659 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: to sit down and be like, Okay, let's focus and 660 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: watch it. 661 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 4: I mean, our seats were really good, but we were 662 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 4: just right out of the like a lot of the 663 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 4: wrestlers didn't come over and like shake our hands and stuff, 664 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 4: so we were right outside of the that area. So 665 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 4: but but no killer seats. But but yeah, the The 666 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 4: Villain Enterprise tag match was really good. The tag team 667 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 4: titles was good. Jay Lethal and Jonathan Gristam retained, and 668 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 4: then it was Alex Shelley against Ray Horris. I had 669 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 4: That is the match of the night. 670 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: I thought that one that was phenomenal. 671 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that one was really really good. Shelley ended up 672 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: getting the win on that tied for my match of 673 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 4: the night I think would have would have been the 674 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 4: Briscoes against Cobb and Dan Math. Dan you just saw 675 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 4: recently he was in the TV tournament in the n 676 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 4: w A Jeff Cobb. Obviously we just made an appearance 677 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 4: with a w Uh. I'm not sure if that was 678 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 4: a one offer if he's you know, finishing up with 679 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 4: Ringing Honor and gonna sign with AW. 680 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 2: But anyways, and we just saw him a couple of 681 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: weeks ago with New Japan. 682 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely. And then brisco is obviously legendary, tons of 683 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 4: tag team titles. One of the I think Jay Briscoe 684 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: was the one that was a world champ at one point. 685 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 4: So so that was a solid match. And then we 686 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 4: had the final one. 687 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: Which was p C o versus dragon Ly And before 688 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: the show, we were kind of talking to a friend 689 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: of ours and he's like, hey, spoiler alert. 690 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: Nick Aldus is here. 691 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: So we were kind of watching to try to figure 692 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: out when he would come out on certain points because 693 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: it's like, well, he's not gonna come out during the 694 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: Marti match because that was the first match. 695 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: Of the night. Maybe it could be Villain Enterprises match. 696 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: Didn't happen there, but he came out and did commentary 697 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: for the PCO and Dragon Lee match, and. 698 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: PCO picked up the win. Nickoldas came in the ring. 699 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: They kind of sat there and Nick did his feel 700 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: if I'm the real champion and YadA, YadA, YadA, and 701 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: they square it off in the ring, and I was like, 702 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: this is gonna be great, Like I would I would 703 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: pay to see these two go at it. I mean, 704 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: this would be a fun match to watch because you know, 705 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: PCO just doesn't care and just does whatever he wants 706 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: during the match, doesn't doesn't even think, oh, well here's 707 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: my age. I'm not going to do a moon salt 708 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: off the you know, the top rope to the floor 709 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: or whatever. 710 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: So they kind of got into the ring argued it up, 711 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: and then the. 712 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: Next night they went to Saint Louis and Nick Oldis 713 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: was for that one and cost PCO the title and 714 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: Ruche is your champion. 715 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that sets up a couple of 716 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 4: things because now you know, we talked to Flip the 717 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 4: other day. Flip is the number one contender for the title. 718 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 4: So now he doesn't have to fight somebody in villain enterprises. 719 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 4: He can fight Rouge. That also frees up, you know, 720 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 4: down the road. Marty wants to try it, but you know, 721 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 4: Flip's also villain. But anyways, and you know, Flip and 722 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 4: Marty is more evenly matched than Marty and PCO. But right, yeah, 723 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 4: so I I have to pat myself on the back. 724 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 4: I did call that. I said, I wouldn't be surprised 725 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 4: if Nick Outis was involved somehow, since he lives in Nashville. 726 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 4: And I mean, as soon as we got there, your 727 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 4: buddy was like, hey, they're they're here, like Bam called it. 728 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 4: So we're kind of hoping for something like what happened 729 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 4: in Saint Louis to happen in Nashville. But that's fine. 730 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 4: But you just had last week on an NWA Marty 731 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 4: was there and then Brody came out and was kind 732 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 4: of fighting against strictly business and stuff like that. So 733 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 4: I think they're doing a really good job of kind 734 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 4: of running this line of NWA and Ring of Honor. 735 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 4: I'll go ahead and mark this down. I wouldn't be 736 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 4: surprised if we kind of got some intel the other day. 737 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 4: They didn't tell us specifically, but they kind of were 738 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 4: just letting us know the Honor Club for Ring of 739 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 4: Honor was gonna have something major going on this year. 740 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if it's something with NWA, like 741 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 4: the NWA's you know video library will be available on 742 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,479 Speaker 4: Ring of Honor and you know you can get both, 743 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 4: or like some kind of collaboration like that, so that 744 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 4: way NWA doesn't have to start its own thing. And 745 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 4: then Ring of Honor obviously triples its video library as 746 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 4: all their stuff and then decades of the NBA stuff. 747 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 4: So I wouldn't be surprised if that's kind of what 748 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 4: ends up happening. But I don't I don't know. They 749 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 4: didn't tell us that, but that's I will, that's my guess. 750 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: I will say if that happens, I will spend the 751 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: ten dollars for Honor Club. 752 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll have to. I'll have to sign back up. 753 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 4: I resigned from the Honor Club I think last year. 754 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 4: But but yeah, so yeah, that was obviously killer night. 755 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: Uh. 756 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 4: You know, Ring of Honor is still putting on great matches, 757 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 4: and I mean they have a very athletic roster from 758 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 4: top to bottom. The only criticism I would say is 759 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 4: their women's division has taken a hit and they don't 760 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 4: have a really big roster at the moment, so hopefully 761 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 4: they can get some more you know, women of honor 762 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,959 Speaker 4: in there. Uh but uh but yeah, all around solid match. 763 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 4: I mean that was I guess that was the first 764 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 4: time we'd seen him since August at their pay per 765 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 4: view and seen him live, I should say, so yeah, 766 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 4: killer uh killer. Week leading up to it, you had 767 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 4: a great time with talking to Flip and then solid 768 00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 4: h solid live event. 769 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, and another solid live event. 770 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: Listen to that transition that you think I would work 771 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: in radio because we could talk about this, uh transition. 772 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 2: Aw revolution happened. 773 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: Got together the whole the whole crew, minus myself because 774 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 1: I had other priorities, got together, watched AW Revolution. 775 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 2: So Eli, you watched out the whole thing. 776 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: What is the final grade of the entire event that 777 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: you would give it. 778 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 4: I'd probably give it a B plus. It goes down 779 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 4: to a C because of Cody's neck tattoo, but. 780 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: Which when I saw the photos of it, I thought 781 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: it was fake And I think me and you kind 782 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: of text about it. 783 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:35,479 Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, that's cool. 784 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: He's got like maybe it's that that athlete's tape and 785 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: he just taped it onto his neck kind of thing. 786 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 4: But yeah, that was my first thought was that canetic 787 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 4: canessis tape or whatever they call it. And I was 788 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 4: just like, it's kind of oddly placed, but okay. And 789 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 4: then when he got closer, I was like, oh, is 790 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 4: it like a temporary tattoo or something like what is that? 791 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 4: And then and then as soon as he passed the camera, 792 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 4: Arn walked by and his vest had the same logo 793 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 4: on it, so I was like, okay, that's what it was. 794 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 4: And then Kayla googled it and like nope, he got 795 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 4: a tattoo. And I was like, holy shit, And I 796 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 4: mean we all, I mean I think everyone in the 797 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 4: on the podcast has tattoos, so we're we're not anti tattoo, 798 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 4: but I'm not on your neck Jesus Christ. I mean 799 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,479 Speaker 4: for your second tattoo right there. And then on top 800 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 4: of that, now people are like roasting him because it's 801 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 4: not drawn straight, so like the crown on the top 802 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 4: of the skull is not like even and it's not 803 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 4: lined up directly. So then now you have a misdrawn 804 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 4: tattoo right front and center on your neck, so like. 805 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the easy company. 806 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so, And there's like a change dot 807 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: or going around of getting Cody to remove it. And 808 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, bry tattoos are a good thing and a 809 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: bad thing, like Cody's tattoo on his neck. I would 810 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: have done that. It's like the other night when I 811 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: was scrolling through and they showed Jack Gallagher and I 812 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: was like, who the fuck is this guy? Like he 813 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: came out with like straight up Connor McGregor, big you 814 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: know ship tattooed on his chest and like didn't even 815 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: realize that was Jack Gallagher. But then it's like Cody's thing, 816 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, when did he get this tattoo? 817 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 2: And is it sanitary? 818 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: The fact that he is out there wrestling with another 819 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: dude sweating a tattoo, because if you have a tattoo, 820 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: you know that you have to take care of it 821 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: and clean it and blah blah blah. So now he 822 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 1: takes the risk of getting a staff infection depending on 823 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: what stage it's in. 824 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 4: Right, And I mean like the one he has on 825 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 4: his chest, This is a dream that's perfect. His dad 826 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 4: was the American Dream. Awesome. That's a great tattoo, this one. 827 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 4: And I mean I like the tattoo. I mean, I 828 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 4: think it's a cool logo and everything. I mean, I 829 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 4: wouldn't I would be getted exactly. I wasn't say forearm 830 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,479 Speaker 4: or not the neck. I mean, just something I don't know, now. 831 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: Your shoulder, maybe the back. Maybe pull Randy Orton and 832 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: go like right there on the spine. 833 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe just don't do it. I don't know. But 834 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 4: then yeah, and then on top of that, MGF had 835 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 4: a horrible spray tand so like it was rough. You 836 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 4: had the odds of that getting in the ink and 837 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 4: the the you know, healing up and stuff. So anyways, 838 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 4: we're we're just kind of poking fun. But we loved it. 839 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 4: Was it was a very big shock though. We were 840 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 4: not expecting to see that. 841 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: So I did also see people kind of saying that 842 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: Cody's trying to be like Triple H. And first it 843 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: was the Throne and now he came out with a 844 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: live band doing his song. 845 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, it's theatrics. Calm the fuck down, Triple H. 846 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 4: Everybody's done. I mean Knakamura had a thing like that before, 847 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 4: and Bobby Rude, they had the glorious choir. I mean, 848 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 4: it's triple H was not the first one to do that. 849 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 4: So but yeah, so it started. I actually missed most 850 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 4: of this match. I was getting to Lena's house when 851 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 4: this one was going on. I think it started before. 852 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 4: I think it was like the kickoff show or something. 853 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 4: It started six thre so I missed most of this match, 854 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 4: but it was the Dark Order against SEU Dark Order one. 855 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 4: After the show, Dark Order got the ring and they 856 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 4: were starting to, you know, kind of do their beatdown thing, 857 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 4: and then Colt Cabana showed up, so that was surprising. 858 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 4: It was in Chicago. He is from Chicago. Obviously, might 859 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 4: be second most famous wrestler from Chicago behind them Punk. Obviously, 860 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 4: he was just in the NWA, he was the National Champion, 861 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 4: you know, all that stuff. I assume he's done with 862 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 4: NWA now. I know Anderson was his tag team partner, 863 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 4: and he is wrestling on the Impact Reunion show and 864 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 4: that didn't sit well with Billy Corgan and Dave Leghana, 865 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 4: so he's gone. So then I don't know if Colt 866 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 4: just took that as like, well, I guess I'm done too. 867 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 4: I don't know what what the behind the scenes stuff was, 868 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 4: but Colt showed up, put up a good fight, then 869 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 4: he got beat down. Then a guy showed up in 870 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 4: a robe took it off as Chris Daniels, so everybody's like, 871 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 4: oh shit, he's I guess that's who's going to be 872 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 4: the Exalted One. Yeah, and then he just got in 873 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 4: the ring and beat down the Dark Order, So I 874 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 4: think they're I think they're having fun with that. You know. 875 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 4: I kind of hope it's not Matt Hardy, just because 876 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 4: it's too obvious, you know. I think that's just too 877 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 4: kind of on the nose. 878 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 2: But maybe it could be Lance Archer. 879 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 4: I mean maybe you know, they did have a week 880 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,720 Speaker 4: or so ago when they're in Atlanta. I guess Raven 881 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 4: was in the crowd and they were kind of just 882 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 4: did that as a you know, kind of an Easter egg. 883 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 4: So I think they are kind of having fun with 884 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 4: with it. But uh, CBS rated that as a C plus. 885 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't see the whole match, so I 886 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 4: can't really confirm. It's kind of getting to the point 887 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 4: now where Dark Order like all I care about with 888 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 4: that is just the Exalted one, Like I don't care 889 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 4: about the team and I don't care about their moods 890 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,720 Speaker 4: and if they know, yeah, like that that has overshadowed 891 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 4: the team or the faction a little bit, so like 892 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 4: I don't really care about it until they announced who 893 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 4: that is and then I'll probably be on board, but. 894 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 5: I didn't. 895 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know if I would have 896 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 4: had Seu take the fall on that one, just because 897 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 4: they were just the tag champs and everything. But anyways, 898 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 4: CBS gave us C plus. 899 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 2: Let's see Jake Hagar Dustin Roads. 900 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: I don't have to really talk about that one very much, 901 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: but that's just a storyline. And this is Hagar's first 902 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: I guess wrestling match in a w Yeah. 903 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 4: He was making out with his wife ringside, and then 904 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 4: Dustin did a cool thing. He went over and kissed 905 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 4: her and like his makeup was smeared on her lips 906 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 4: and face. That was kind of cool, but yeah, it 907 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 4: wasn't that great of a match. I don't know if 908 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 4: it was a just Hagar being out of the ring 909 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 4: so long or maybe he was just worse than we remember, Like, 910 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 4: I don't know, but it was CBS's match tops out 911 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 4: at okay but clearly below some of Rhodes really solid 912 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,479 Speaker 4: working aw and I agree that was the Dustin Road's 913 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 4: worst match so far since being A and W. Again, 914 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think it was his fault, but just say, 915 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,919 Speaker 4: it's just one of those things. Some people just don't 916 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 4: have chemistry, you know, Like you go back and look 917 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 4: at the the brock Lesnar Goldberg match from WrestleMania where 918 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 4: Stone Code was the guest referee. I think that was 919 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 4: two thousand and four. Now, part of that was both 920 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 4: of those guys were on their way out, so they 921 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 4: didn't really give a crap. But I mean, it was 922 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 4: just awful, and you would assume, like, you know, two 923 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 4: big dudes like that that kind of not really similar 924 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 4: move set, but similar you know, kind of combat style 925 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 4: or whatever. But it was just awful. So like sometimes 926 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 4: people just suck together, you know, it's just the way 927 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 4: it go. But Hager's also a MAGA fan, so obviously 928 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 4: we're not a huge fan of that kind of stuff, 929 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 4: so he loses points by default. But yeah, so the 930 00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 4: CBS gave that a C plus I would have given 931 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 4: into the uh. I wasn't really blown away with it. 932 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, let's see we kind of go through this 933 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: really quick, just so we can kind of wrap some 934 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: stuff up because we want to get to the big 935 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: important thing. 936 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 4: Uh. 937 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: Darby Allen versus Sammy Guvara. That's pretty solid that one though. 938 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, they gave it a B. I'd probably give it 939 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 4: a B plus. Uh. Darby Allen is super over in 940 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 4: case you are living under a rock. Aw uh, universe 941 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 4: loves him. They had some cool stuff. The the coffin 942 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 4: drop is still a crazy move. It's still just I 943 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 4: don't know, it's really move scares me it does. It 944 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 4: really is kind of a people gasp when it happens, 945 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,919 Speaker 4: you know. And but I think it showed him both well. 946 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 4: They both had some good spots. The Gavero hit the 947 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 4: I think it was the red arrow thing that Neville 948 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 4: or Pock hits sometimes like six thirty cent or whatever. 949 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 4: That was solid. I mean, they had some good spots. 950 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 4: Darby did get the coffin drop and he got the win. 951 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 4: CBS said, b. I'd probably give it a B plus. 952 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 4: So all right. 953 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: The next one we'll talk about is the Tag Team Championship, 954 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: and it's basically the Elite versus the elite and this 955 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,800 Speaker 1: whole build up, we are thinking, Okay, Adam Page is 956 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: going to finally turn and he's going to go his 957 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,760 Speaker 1: own way kind of thing. Of course, Adam and Kenny 958 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: did win. They defeated the Bucks. What do you think 959 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: about that match? 960 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 4: I mean, that was the arguably match of the night. 961 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,760 Speaker 4: I mean they rated it higher than the Jericho Moxley match. 962 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:58,399 Speaker 4: But I mean it's gonna be hard not to put 963 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 4: those guys in the ring. And have you know a 964 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 4: CBS rated is a plus. I mean they rted as 965 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 4: the highest rated match of the night, so it it 966 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 4: was really hard not to get a good match out 967 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 4: of them. And there's so much story, you know, like 968 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 4: you have brother and brother and then you have just 969 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 4: kind of a Hodgepodge team, which I'm excuse me, me 970 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 4: and Kayla and Layna were talking about last night. I'm 971 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 4: not I'm not a big fan of the what I 972 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 4: would call like a ragtag. 973 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 2: Just let's put two people together and see what happens. 974 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 4: I Mean, the only time that I've seen it done 975 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 4: correctly and it worked really good was the Rock and 976 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 4: Sock connection. Yeah that was twenty one years ago. Twenty 977 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 4: years ago, whatever, it was other than that, I don't 978 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 4: like it. You can see what's gonna happen from a 979 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 4: mile away, and I just don't like I mean, you 980 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 4: even saw it Friday night at Ring of Honor with 981 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 4: Jay Lethal and Grisham, Like they start missing spots and 982 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 4: they end up hitting each other. And that's what Hangman 983 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 4: and Kenny Omega have been doing. They've like the opponent's 984 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 4: ducked and Hangman's accidentally larerted Kenny Omega, and you know, 985 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 4: they have this stuff and then that's creating the dissension 986 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 4: and then you get to a match where one of 987 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 4: them quits on the partner and walks back to the 988 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 4: dress room, and then they have a title match and 989 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 4: they drop them and then they turn on each other. 990 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,839 Speaker 4: It just it's just it's typical, like there's nothing, you know. 991 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 4: The only thing that we don't know is we don't 992 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 4: know if Kenny's gonna turn on Hangman, or Hangman's gonna 993 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 4: turn on Kenny, or if they just separate. And you know, 994 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 4: Hangman is kind of like a lone wolf now and 995 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 4: Kenny's still in the elite, Like we don't know the result, 996 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 4: but we know it's gonna happen, you know, so I 997 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 4: thought it was cool. Like there was a point where 998 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,399 Speaker 4: Kenny Omega tried to hit the vat Ar I'm sorry, 999 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,760 Speaker 4: the one wing Angel, but he his shoulder was messed 1000 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 4: up and he had that sports tape on there we 1001 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 4: were talking about and one of the Jackson's kind of 1002 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 4: really like costoned it and was like really kicking on him. 1003 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 4: They actually were getting booed because of it. They kind 1004 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 4: of the Bucks kind of acted like heels in this 1005 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 4: match a little bit that uh you know that sequence 1006 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 4: where I think it's Matt Jackson, but he does that 1007 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 4: uh belly to belly suplex and when it lands, he 1008 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 4: rolls over and hits it again, and then rolls over 1009 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 4: and hits it again. Well, he did that out on 1010 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 4: the ramp to Hangman, and the last time he was 1011 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 4: doing it was kind of on the hard plastic where 1012 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 4: the like the led screens that they were showing where 1013 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 4: they on the entrance ramp, So I guess that was 1014 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 4: like the hardest part of it. And he was looking 1015 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 4: around like he was like he was conflicted and like 1016 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 4: he didn't know what to do it or not, and 1017 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 4: people kind of started booing and he did it, and 1018 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 4: when he did it, the crowd really started booing. They 1019 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 4: also hit him with a meltzer driver out on the 1020 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 4: ramp and I got booze. So the Bucks kind of 1021 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 4: played the heels in this one a little bit. But anyway, 1022 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 4: so Ken you mega shoulder was shot, so Page actually 1023 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 4: hit the one wing angel on one of them, and anyways, 1024 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,919 Speaker 4: long story short, they ended up getting the Bucks shot 1025 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 4: slash v trigger combo and that set up the winds, 1026 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 4: so they retained it. At the end of the match, 1027 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 4: the Bucks and Kenny Omega in the ring and they 1028 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 4: were trying to get Hangman over there, and he's like, nah, 1029 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 4: I'm good. So he got outside on the ramp and 1030 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,320 Speaker 4: the Bucks were getting out of the ring and Kenny 1031 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 4: was still in the ring, and Hangman grabbed the top 1032 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 4: rope like he was going to do that flip over 1033 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 4: and then the lariat, and he was sitting there and 1034 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 4: the crowd started kind of rumbling, and then when Kenny 1035 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 4: turned around, he kind of let up and was like, 1036 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 4: come on, man, come on, come on over here, and 1037 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 4: then he like sat down on the ropes and like 1038 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 4: lifting him up to let him through, and so they 1039 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 4: were hinting at it you know, at the end of 1040 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 4: the match, but nothing happened, so that one was really solid. 1041 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,360 Speaker 4: I mean, again, you have all these guys are in 1042 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 4: the Elite and then you have this kind of thrown 1043 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,479 Speaker 4: together team. You've got the brothers, so there's so many 1044 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 4: different dynamics and but yeah, so CBS give it an 1045 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,359 Speaker 4: A plus. I'd probably give it an A. I don't 1046 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 4: know if i'd go full you know, a plus. But 1047 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 4: I mean, arguably was the best match of the night. 1048 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,240 Speaker 2: I think, oh, most definitely. 1049 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 1: And like you said, I watched the highlights and that 1050 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 1: one thing, I was like, this is it, this is 1051 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: this is when he's gonna do it, and then it 1052 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: was kind of like the no, gotch you we're just 1053 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 1: kidding for right now, We'll see what happens kind of thing. 1054 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: Let's see we can do you want to talk about 1055 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: Nyla Rose and Chris stat Lander. Do you just want 1056 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 1: to say Nylo Rose one, Nilo Rose were one. 1057 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 4: CBS gave it a D. I would agree with that. 1058 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 4: That was probably the worst match on the card. It 1059 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 4: seemed like they were it seemed like they're running in 1060 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 4: slow motion or something like it. Now, granted they just 1061 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 4: did follow that tag match, which was arguably the best 1062 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,760 Speaker 4: match on the card, so you know, the excitement level 1063 00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 4: did drop a little bit. And then the match after 1064 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 4: that that was MGF Cody, so they were in a 1065 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 4: weird spot. You know, I don't think anybody would have 1066 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 4: had an A plus match in that spot on the card. 1067 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 4: But it says this is what CBS said, I want 1068 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 4: to show that features some incredible matches. This is the 1069 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 4: one that'll remember as falling flat on the card. The 1070 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 4: chemistry just wasn't there between these two women whatsoever. As 1071 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 4: botch spots, namely a superplex attempt from Statlander that could 1072 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 4: have gone horribly wrong. Where the theme in this women's 1073 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 4: title rose uh says, I don't know that word. Murderfully 1074 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 4: put an end to this one and retained her title 1075 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 4: after a bestpawn from the top. So you know, I 1076 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 4: thought I didn't think stat Lander was gonna win, but 1077 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 4: just because I thought Nila Road. It was a little 1078 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 4: quick for Nihla to drop the title. But I kind 1079 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 4: of was just expecting a better match than that one, 1080 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 4: So so yeah, it was. It was. It was pretty rough. 1081 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 4: I have to admit I was not a fan of. 1082 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: It, and it kind of we're just kind of waiting, 1083 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: and I know the girls that have talked about this 1084 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: on this show, we're just kind of waiting for Nyla 1085 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 1: an awesome Kong. 1086 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 2: To go at it. 1087 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be a fun match to watch. Let's 1088 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: talk about MJFN Cody. We can kind of We've got 1089 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: three more matches to kind of talk about real quick 1090 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 1: before we end the show. 1091 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 4: So yeah, So that one, I think a lot of 1092 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 4: people were looking forward to this match, you know, in 1093 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,880 Speaker 4: my heart of hearts, I think the MGF turn on 1094 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 4: Cody happened too quickly, Like I would have liked to 1095 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 4: have seen it carry on the way it was and 1096 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 4: then him turn on him last night, and I think 1097 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 4: that would have, you know, set up something down the 1098 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 4: road or whatever. But anyways, it is what it is. 1099 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 4: It happened the way it happened. So the two things 1100 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,919 Speaker 4: we've already mentioned. MJF had a terrible spray tand KB 1101 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 4: thinks he thinks that he got it applied backstage, and 1102 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 4: then he didn't take a shower to rents off the 1103 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 4: excess and he just went straight to the ring and 1104 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 4: you could tell it was just awful. And then Cody's 1105 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 4: neck tattoo. But there were some cool spots. You know, 1106 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 4: arn Anderson accidentally got hit by Cody, so they kind 1107 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 4: of planted the seed of that kind of stuff and 1108 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 4: Inner Circle came. Nope, that was a different match. Sorry, 1109 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 4: wardlow wardlow was kind of involved. There was a spot 1110 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 4: where he uh, Brandy jumped off the apron and he 1111 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 4: called her and Cody's like put her down, and then 1112 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 4: when all that was happening, that's when Cody accidentally hit 1113 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 4: Torn Anderson. And but yeah, pretty solid. Even Tony Shavanni mentioned, uh, 1114 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 4: you know, and CBS says it too. It says MJF 1115 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 4: doesn't get a lot of credit for his wrestling skills, 1116 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 4: but he carried his weight in this one and even 1117 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 4: got a little bit of color to help build the drama. 1118 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 4: And I think that's the biggest thing. And that's what 1119 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 4: Tony Shavanni was saying, is that, you know, a lot 1120 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 4: of people don't or failed to realize. I mean, MGF 1121 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 4: is a solid wrestler. You know, he's only twenty three, 1122 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,439 Speaker 4: but I mean he's really good in the ring, and 1123 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 4: I don't think he a lot of people have seen 1124 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 4: that yet because he hasn't wrestled many matches, and he's 1125 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 4: mainly on the mic, which is also incredible on the mic, 1126 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 4: but I mean he's he is a really solid wrestler, 1127 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,360 Speaker 4: and he really does kind of have that old school 1128 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,359 Speaker 4: you know, Harley Race, Rick Flair, Bockwinkle, you know, he's 1129 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 4: seen that kind of old school heel, and so I 1130 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 4: mean that that dismatch really showcased both those guys really well. 1131 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 4: In a not surprising move, MGF pulled his ring out 1132 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 4: that he won and hit Cody in the head and 1133 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 4: that knocked him out and then MGF just fell on 1134 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 4: top of him and that's how he pinned him. So 1135 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 4: so yeah, MGF took the win. I don't think anyone 1136 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 4: saw that coming. I think after the ten lashes and 1137 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 4: then the cage match and just all this stuff, I 1138 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 4: think everyone just assumed he was getting Cody was getting 1139 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,280 Speaker 4: his revenge. But MGF one and I think that definitely 1140 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 4: pushes him further up as a heel. But CBS gave 1141 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 4: it a B plus. I'd probably, you know, split the difference. 1142 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 4: I'd give it an a minus. You know, the big 1143 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 4: thing with Cody that we've talked about, and I got 1144 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 4: to tell him this when we interviewed him, but he's 1145 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 4: really turned a corner as far as his storytelling goes 1146 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 4: in the ring, and you know, he's mainly doing the 1147 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 4: same move sets that he's done and everything, so that 1148 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 4: really hasn't changed. But just his storytelling performances and his 1149 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 4: mic stuff. I mean, he's he's in a different level 1150 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 4: right now. And yeah, it was another you know, solid 1151 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 4: match and another solid feud on a pay review for him. 1152 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, most definitely, Like just I've never We've talked 1153 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: about this before on the show. 1154 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 2: I mean, Cody's storytelling is amazing. 1155 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 1: Like I've never been like emotionally attached to certain wrestling things, 1156 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 1: but like when he was doing the lashes, like I 1157 00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 1: was emotionally attached to that segment. But another match that 1158 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people are still talking about on social 1159 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: media is pack or Pack. 1160 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 2: Tony and j R. Say Pack, pack whatever versus Orange Cassidy. 1161 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they can figure out what 1162 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: He's going to be called an ae W, but. 1163 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 4: What about that one? I call him pack? Yeah, so 1164 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 4: this is from CBS says no, there's no denying. At 1165 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 4: this point, Cassy gets the biggest reactions in pro wrestling 1166 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 4: since Cassidy got to show off a more complete picture 1167 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 4: of what he's capab capable of in the ring. But 1168 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 4: Pack was simply the more dangerous man has shown by 1169 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 4: his forcing Cassidy to tap. It says high entertainment than 1170 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 4: only pro wrestling can provide in this one B plus, 1171 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 4: So I agree with that. You know, it was uh, 1172 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,919 Speaker 4: I don't think anyone saw Pack losing. You know, he's 1173 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 4: notorious for being serious and taking things. You know. Uh, 1174 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 4: the whole hymn and hang thing didn't happen because he's like, 1175 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 4: I'm not losing. I'm the dragon Gate Champion or whatever 1176 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 4: he was in the UK, and so he's he's I 1177 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 4: think it's that. And then also the way he was 1178 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 4: treated in WWE, So I think I think he's on 1179 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,920 Speaker 4: board for a lot of stuff, but at the end 1180 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 4: of the day, he's like, you know, I'm going over 1181 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 4: in this match or whatever. So I never really thought 1182 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 4: Orange Cassidy was going to win this one, just you know, 1183 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 4: because of Pack's reputation. But they did kind of play around, 1184 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 4: you know, he you know, Orange Cassidy does those little 1185 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 4: kicks to the Shens and then Pack was doing them back, 1186 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 4: and he had some good spots with his hands in 1187 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 4: his pocket and uh and then you know when he 1188 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 4: took those out and really was going. And I think 1189 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 4: that's the big thing is people don't really realize that 1190 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 4: how good of a wrestler he is. And if he 1191 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 4: wasn't doing this stick, then he really could be a 1192 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 4: top guy. But he's doing the stick and he's still 1193 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 4: a top guy. He gets a huge pop everywhere he goes. 1194 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,439 Speaker 4: So I think this one did his job. I think 1195 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 4: it really showed Pawca is still dominant, and then it 1196 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 4: also showed you know, Orange Cassidy's humor. But then it 1197 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 4: also showed that he really can go in the ring 1198 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 4: if he needs to. So so yeah, B plus. I 1199 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 4: agree with that one. That was pretty solid. 1200 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and seeing a lot of stuff you could, you know, 1201 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 1: cool that Pac was going along with some of the 1202 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 1: things like the kicks and the hands of the pocket thing, 1203 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 1: and it just goes to show that even though you know, 1204 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Pac wants to be taken seriously, he can still have 1205 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: fun with it. So on to the main event. John 1206 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Moxley and Chris Jericho. 1207 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 4: CBS gave it a B plus. I'd probably give it 1208 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 4: an A or a minus. It was, uh, you know, 1209 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 4: we've seen these two fight before, obviously in the previous promotion, 1210 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 4: so you know we've been down the stroad before. Jericho 1211 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 4: had on some new breeches, so they seem to, I 1212 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 4: don't know, fitting better. We were just we were commenting 1213 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 4: last night about how Jericho like, you know, you could 1214 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 4: tell he's like you could see his abs more and 1215 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 4: his arms are bigger. And then I don't know if 1216 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 4: he's the pants are just different and you know, fit 1217 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 4: him differently or I don't know what the deal is, 1218 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 4: but he looked incredible, the tons of stuff with inner circle. 1219 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 4: Aubrey Edwards ejected him, throw them back, you know, tell 1220 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 4: them to leave the ring. When that happened, Samy Gevar 1221 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 4: ran out through the crowd, hit Moxley with the belt. 1222 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 4: Everyone kind of thought that was over. Jericho kicked out 1223 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 4: and then I'm sorry Moxley kicked out, and then Moxley 1224 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 4: took his patch off and show was revealing that he 1225 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 4: wasn't really blonde, so he was just fighting with one 1226 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 4: eye as a trick. And then when that happened, kind 1227 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 4: of all bets are off. He hit the paradigm shift 1228 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 4: U Penn Jericho clean and we have a brand new 1229 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 4: second ever aw world champion. 1230 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so this this should be a fun little 1231 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 1: feud to see what's going to happen next. 1232 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 2: If Jericho stays, I'm assuming that he's going to stay. 1233 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what his contract is with a W. 1234 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he's going anywhere. They're letting him 1235 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 4: wrestle like in New Japan. Still, so I think he'll 1236 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 4: he'll be stand put. But a lot of people I 1237 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 4: was seeing on like Twitter and stuff were commenting on 1238 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 4: just how you know, not only solid this pay per 1239 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:28,479 Speaker 4: view was, but just how you know the payoffs were 1240 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 4: all good and they all made sense, you know, you know, 1241 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 4: Jake Hager beating Dustin Rhodes that you know, not only 1242 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 4: gives Hagar his first win, but it also kind of 1243 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 4: gives them, you know, the inner circle of victory over 1244 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,920 Speaker 4: you know, Rhads or the Nightmare Family or whatever. Darby 1245 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 4: Allen beating Samon g Gavar is not really the big 1246 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 4: winner in the inner circle. He loses a lot. So 1247 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 4: him losing to put Darby Allen over was a no 1248 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:02,520 Speaker 4: brainer man. And Kenny Omega going over the bucks that 1249 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 4: was a coin flip. You know, you're in the weird 1250 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 4: spot because you have one EVP that's a tech champion 1251 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 4: and then you have two EVPs that are trying for it, 1252 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 4: so you kind of have that, oh, they're just booking 1253 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 4: themselves kind of deal. So like that, it's kind of 1254 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 4: hard to predict. But you know, Nylea Rose Statlander, you know, 1255 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 4: I think it was too soon for Nihla to drop, 1256 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 4: so I think that made sense. In JF Cody, everyone 1257 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 4: thought Cody was winning, so I think that had more 1258 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 4: impact because then JF did win and he cheated to win. 1259 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 4: On top of that. You know, we talked about Packing 1260 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 4: Arch Cassidy. Obviously Pack wasn't gonna lose that one, but 1261 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 4: both of them looked like a million bucks. I think 1262 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 4: Moxley I think he had to win at that point. 1263 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 4: I think he was eleven oh and one before, so 1264 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 4: he hasn't lost since then. And I don't even know 1265 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 4: what the o the eleven oh and one was. I 1266 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 4: don't remember if it was a time limit draw or 1267 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 4: I don't remember what it was, but something that's the 1268 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,360 Speaker 4: quote unquote on only blemish so far. But you know, 1269 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 4: I kind of felt like, I don't know, they kind 1270 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 4: of somewhat painted themselves in the corner because I kind 1271 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 4: of see that maybe it was too early for Jericho 1272 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 4: to drop, but then you have Moxley who's eleven to 1273 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 4: zero and one, so he hasn't lost yet, so like 1274 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 4: what do you do? And I think they built it 1275 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 4: up the right way. I mean, basically all the inner 1276 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 4: circle got involved. You know, he got hit with the bell, 1277 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 4: kicked out, took his patch off like I'm one hundred percent, 1278 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 4: you know, and then that was it. And we didn't 1279 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 4: really get a big surprise this pay per view. We 1280 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 4: kind of were thinking at the end, someone would, you know, 1281 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 4: either come out and cos Smocksley the match, or you know, 1282 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 4: attack Jericho and have help him win or something. So 1283 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 4: I guess the big shock of the pay per view 1284 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,560 Speaker 4: was Cult Cabana, which you know isn't bad. But I 1285 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 4: think we were you know, maybe Lance Archer, Luke Harper 1286 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 4: showing up or somebody. And but I think, uh, this 1287 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 4: one was weird because I didn't really hear any rumblings 1288 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 4: about Sampunk at all. And you know, usually when it's 1289 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 4: in Chicago and he's there for the Comic convention, you 1290 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 4: know you hear tons of what's he going to show up? 1291 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 4: And I didn't hear it at all. And you know, 1292 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 4: I think that's a testament to not only people kind 1293 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,600 Speaker 4: of being over the sampunk thing like if he's going 1294 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 4: to show up, cool, if he's not, whatever, But it's 1295 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 4: also just shows you like how Aw's has grown to 1296 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 4: where they don't need those talks. Like I haven't heard 1297 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 4: it at all, and I didn't even think about it 1298 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,880 Speaker 4: until it was in the show. It started like, oh wow, 1299 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 4: I just remember they're in Chicago. He's there for the 1300 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 4: comic con thing, like I wonder if he shows up, 1301 01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 4: you know, so so yeah, I thought that was cool that, 1302 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 4: you know, we didn't really hear many rumors about that, 1303 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 4: you know, but all around, yeah, I think probably B plus. 1304 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 4: I mean it's pretty solid, pretty solid pay per view. 1305 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 4: But somebody on Twitter, I don't know how I got 1306 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 4: in this long wind of thing, but a lot of 1307 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 4: people on Twitter we're talking about how you know this 1308 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 4: this was executed just to perfection and you didn't have 1309 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 4: dumb swerves like the Goldberg Beaten Fiend kind of thing. 1310 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:13,040 Speaker 4: And you know, I think it's I think they're paying, 1311 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 4: like the payoff is being really rewarding for the fans, 1312 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 4: and that doesn't happen very often. In WWE. So so yeah, 1313 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 4: pretty pretty solid night. 1314 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean it'll be fun to watch Wednesday 1315 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,120 Speaker 1: night to see the falling out from the show, and 1316 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,880 Speaker 1: we'll kind of see some more falling out on Monday 1317 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:38,200 Speaker 1: Night Raw as well from Super Shakedown, French Fries whatever, 1318 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:38,800 Speaker 1: I don't. 1319 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 4: Know, Super Sessame, Yes, that's what we're gonna call it. 1320 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's it's gonna be fun to watch 1321 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 1: how everything unfolds this week wrestling wise. We're working on 1322 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 1: a guest for Friday. Of course, the girls will probably 1323 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 1: give their opinion on what they thought of what's going 1324 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 1: on this week and wrestling. 1325 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 2: That'll drop this week as well. 1326 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, make sure that you follow us on 1327 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 1: all social medias. We're on Instagram It's Battleground Podcast. We're 1328 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 1: on Twitter, Battleground IHR. Which, by the way, I do 1329 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 1: need to give a quick shout out to another person 1330 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 1: who is a fan of the show, John, but he 1331 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:19,200 Speaker 1: goes on Twitter by Comrade Ivory. He was a winner 1332 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:23,720 Speaker 1: of our Ring of Honor code with Fight TV and 1333 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,480 Speaker 1: he got to watch Fight TV both Friday night and 1334 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,480 Speaker 1: Saturday night. And then we've got to talking and he's like, 1335 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 1: I listen to the show all the time, so shout 1336 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 1: out to him as well, and all the people that 1337 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: won on our Ring of Honor tickets. Once again, we'll 1338 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,160 Speaker 1: give a quick shout out to we pull this back up, 1339 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:42,920 Speaker 1: give a shout out to. 1340 01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 2: You ready for this. 1341 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,000 Speaker 1: Joey does designs and Sally, so shout out to those 1342 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,880 Speaker 1: guys for winning tickets. And yeah, that's kind of about it. 1343 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say before we leave? 1344 01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:01,440 Speaker 4: No, you know, just pretty solid. You know. We had 1345 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 4: a talk to Flip on Thursday, and then we got 1346 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,600 Speaker 4: to go to the live show Friday, and then we 1347 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 4: had the aw Pay review on Saturday. So just a 1348 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,400 Speaker 4: fun couple days of wrestling. 1349 01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 1: So this weekend we'll be able to not have to 1350 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,479 Speaker 1: do so much wrestling this week and I'm looking forward 1351 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 1: to having a weekend off. 1352 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 4: Take a little break. 1353 01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:25,839 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, guys, Yeah, just so follow us Instagram 1354 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 1: Battleground Podcast. We are on Twitter Battleground IHR, and we're 1355 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,799 Speaker 1: also on Facebook. Just search Battleground Podcast and be our friends. 1356 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,280 Speaker 1: And until next time. 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