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Speaker 1: I'm Lori Siegel and you're listening to Mostly Human, a

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Speaker 1: Thank you so Okay, So you have such an interesting background,

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Speaker 1: So it's really interesting because UK has been ahead, especially

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Speaker 1: Why do you think only fans didn't really make that leap?

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's still, you know, known for a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like and so you left OnlyFans in twenty

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of funny conversations. And this

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Speaker 4: And then really and I feel like you'll relate to this.

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Speaker 4: It's like, well, yes, yes I did.

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Speaker 3: Or there you know, there's many times, you know, I'll

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Speaker 1: Just like even like the misconception of like you get

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Speaker 4: Like, who is this kid? Where's are you the assistant? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Was it what made you decide to leave?

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Speaker 2: Was it the opportunity for something new? Was it time

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Speaker 3: fintech luxury CpG, like, okay, well we want to start

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Speaker 3: a company. Our running joke was that every shady character

442
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 3: that you can imagine who had their idea for the

443
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 3: next like of would reach out to us. Only yeah

444
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 3: and then you know, we always shun them away, especially Kaylee,

445
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 3: but it happened so much and then it was kind

446
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,479
Speaker 3: of like I was always like, no, I'm not going

447
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 3: to go back into that sector. But it was really

448
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: just seeing like, oh, no, one's talking to this entire

449
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 3: white space of potential users, of people who want to

450
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: monetize don't know how, And then just look at the

451
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 3: frustrations like I hear from not just creators but our

452
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 3: friends or you know, other influencers talent where they're like,

453
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 3: I don't they're frustrated with the current state of social media.

454
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 3: They've plot towed on growth, they're not their content's not seen,

455
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: they're not being seen. So we kind of felt like, okay,

456
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: maybe there's something here well.

457
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Speaker 1: And there's also just like this really interesting happening like

458
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: after chat GPT launches twenty twenty two. AI is nothing new,

459
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: but now it's mainstream to see. It happens so fast,

460
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: it happens so quickly, and all of a sudden, there

461
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: are all these conversations about consent online. I mean, I know,

462
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: for me, it's really near and dear. The rise of

463
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: sexually explicit deep fakes. A lot of these women in

464
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: public some more public than others who had their likeness

465
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: taken because now we're in this age where our most

466
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: intimate features, our voice, our face, our bodies.

467
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: Can be mimicked with AI.

468
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Speaker 1: And so now we're entering this era where consent online

469
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: really matters.

470
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 2: And if someone wanted.

471
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: To create AI Laurie to do anything, they could, And

472
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: so I think it's really interesting to think about, well

473
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Speaker 1: you combine that moment with a lot of the stuff

474
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: and the frustration from creators, and also what could a

475
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: social media platform look like if it was built with

476
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: folks who have experience in the creator world, but who

477
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: are also women. And I think that kind of like

478
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: combination and those ingredients are kind of at the core

479
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: of Violet. It almost feels a little bit like an

480
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: offshoot of only fans, but very different in some capacities.

481
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: You've launched just a couple months ago, So what have

482
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: you seen so far?

483
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: So we're still very new, but we have about ten

484
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: thousand users on the platform already. We're continuing to grow daily,

485
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: adding upwards of five hundred to a thousand new users.

486
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Speaker 4: You know, to.

487
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 3: Us, anyone can join violetworld dot com. But you jump on,

488
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 3: you're able to you know, make a profile. You're able

489
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: to leverage AI tools. We have AI chat, image generation,

490
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: we have vibe matching. So if you're a fan you

491
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: want to find a creator to follow, you can type

492
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 3: in you know, their aesthetic, you know, an esthetic preference,

493
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 3: you type in hobbies, interests. Like there's this discovery feature

494
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: that just not available elsewhere. So that's something we're really

495
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: excited about. And also everyone on the platform as a

496
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: human because you go through an onboarding process where you know,

497
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: there's age verification, there's you're setting up a profile. We

498
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: actually require everyone to have a profile image. We found

499
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: that it makes just a much more enjoyable engagement experience

500
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 3: when it's not just.

501
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 4: That like icon.

502
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

503
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 3: Really, while we have AI tools, you know, we do

504
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 3: value and prioritize human connection and experiences. It's fully integrated

505
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 3: as a space where anyone can build a community, connect

506
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 3: with their kind of like creators they might know they

507
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: want to follow, they can you know, have a place

508
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: online to discover, you know, have that sense of discovery back.

509
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Speaker 4: It's just not it hasn't been around for a long time.

510
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: So you're months in what are you seeing, like, what

511
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: are interesting creators doing? Like how are they interacting with it,

512
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: what are people monetizing?

513
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: How it has it working?

514
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 3: So you're seeing a range of content. Also, anyone can

515
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 3: share content on Violet. We want people to feel like

516
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: they can express themselves. The only difference between kind of

517
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 3: fans or users of the platform and creators is that

518
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: creators set up subscription tiers, meaning they can monetize their

519
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: content through premium VIP subscriptions, through pay per view content,

520
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: custom content that they're able to us upsell to their followers.

521
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the AI integration. What is Violet doing

522
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: with AI that's unique? What are the decisions made to

523
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: get there?

524
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 2: What will you do? What won't you do?

525
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: So for AI, we want creators have full control over

526
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: their digital twin, meaning that they upload eight to twelve

527
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 3: images of themselves to be able to train it. You know,

528
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: they can put in create their own prompts. We have

529
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: pre selects if they're like not sure what they want

530
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 3: to write, and it's really streamlined the image creation process.

531
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Speaker 3: They own all of the AI images that are generated.

532
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: So after they generate an image, if they like it,

533
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: they can post it to their Violet profile. They could

534
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 3: post it to their you know, VIP or premiums here

535
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 3: and upsell it, or they can download it and then

536
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: it will be watermarked with Violet AI too, and that

537
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: gives them like really a sense of control over their

538
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 3: likeness their IP. We also have AI chat on Violet,

539
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: so that's where you're actually chatting with Violet AI. It's

540
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: getting to know you, your tone of voice, and I'll

541
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: ask you questions. I'll where are you from, what hobbies

542
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: are you into? Do you have any pets? Like it

543
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 3: truly does get to know you. Like I keep my

544
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: AI chat turned on and I'll find people will chat

545
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 3: with it. But of course, because they're all about transparency,

546
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: I can then go back and see like, okay, what

547
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 3: is AIA me even saying to people.

548
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 2: And the idea is that you could monetize AI.

549
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: You you own, you have ownership over your AI likeness,

550
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: and this is a social network and a place where

551
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: you could kind of put it work if you wanted

552
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: to to some degree.

553
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 3: Right exactly, That's where you know, you just can toggle

554
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: to turn on your AI so then I can chat

555
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: for you. You know, if you're at work, you have

556
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: other things going on. But then your fans get that

557
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 3: sense of like, oh, like Laurie's you know, recording a podcast,

558
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: but oh I can chat with her aiight or like,

559
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: as a creator, so much work to produce a full shoot,

560
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: make content, and this allows you to like, oh, I

561
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 3: want to you know what if someone's like, oh I

562
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: want to see they look like in a purple wag

563
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 3: or in a blue shirt, Well, quickly use AI.

564
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: And I'll generate whatever you want.

565
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: You know, on Violet we have everything labeled with AI

566
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: for a transparency, So on all the images there's a

567
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: star icon, so you know, okay, this is created with

568
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: Violet AI, and it's very clear even in the chat,

569
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: there's a live chat with the actual creator and then

570
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: you can see like, oh, their AI.

571
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 4: When you're chatting with their AI.

572
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: Is there a world like I mean, it's certainly seems

573
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: like we are entering this world where people are okay

574
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: with talking to an AI version of somebody, and.

575
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 3: Oh, look at the success of like replica character AI

576
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: these other you know, platforms or people a lot of

577
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: times are talking to a fictional character yeah, or someone

578
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: made up And this allows you to be like, oh wait,

579
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: this is based off of a real person.

580
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I you know, at the end of the day.

581
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: As much as we all embrace AI in AI tools,

582
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: nothing takes the place of the human experience.

583
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what's interesting is like you see so you

584
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: see this, it's like this idea of world building. So

585
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: many of these really successful AI companies and I look

586
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: at like character Ai, although albeit they didn't have the

587
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: correct cardrails with like and they also didn't have the

588
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: permissions like they had like Ai Nicki Minaj. But Ai

589
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj was building out a world and having all

590
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: these crazy conversations with folks and getting millions and millions

591
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: of chats, which kind of proves the point that people

592
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: know that it's not Nicki Minaj, but they are willing

593
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: to do it. The problem with character Ai is that

594
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: they didn't have permission from Nicki Minaj to be doing this.

595
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: And so my understanding from Violet is that you do

596
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: have permission and yeah.

597
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: We're not doing anything. It's actually the creator and the

598
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: talent who is like, oh, they've you know, taken decision

599
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: to train their Violet AI chat and they turn it on.

600
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: They're the ones creating all the images. We're actually not

601
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: doing anything. We're providing the tools for them. And there's

602
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: some creators that you know, they they don't you know,

603
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: use the AI tools as frequently and more so. They

604
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: like the just the user experience, the subscription tiers, and

605
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: there's somewhere like they're just cranking out those images and

606
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: I am like, and we're going to play with it,

607
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: like literally right now. But I will say, like, I

608
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: am really excited about my AI Lori because it does

609
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: feel like enough separation that like I could kind of

610
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: see how people are interacting with Ai Lori, what they're saying.

611
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 3: I think that could be really interesting as long as

612
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: I had like the quality control and the ability to

613
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: have to understand you know, well that's not what I

614
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: would say, or that is what I would say, or

615
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: train it more and more to kind of be like me.

616
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: I think it's such an interesting you know, we are

617
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: entering this world where I guess, like these relationships, the

618
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: lines between reality are just blurring a bit, and it's

619
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: interesting to watch what people are attracted to and also

620
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: what kind of guardrails and how you build that in

621
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: a way that's safe for both parties.

622
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 4: I mean that's what we have.

623
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: Of course, like all of the moderation, there's nothing on

624
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: the platform we can't see, like, no one can go

625
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: in and try to make like, you know, AI images

626
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: that aren't of themselves. There's precautions behind the scenes to

627
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: prevent that. Yeah, you know, we you know, we've kind

628
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: of thought through a lot of these different scenarios and

629
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 3: you know, we'd want to prevent it from you know,

630
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: being used by bad actors. And those are a lot

631
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: of conversations had early on with our CTO stuff in

632
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: who's like in there and making sure like, okay, this

633
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: is safe, Like no one can upload, you know, an

634
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: image that would be against our terms of service, or

635
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: try to upload an image that's not of them right,

636
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: And that's where you know, we've put a lot of

637
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: these you know, thanks to AI, you have a lot

638
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: of PreCheck of content, so we see everything's pre check

639
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: before it's published. And that actually is the same with

640
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: our own AI images too, so they're even reviewed per

641
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: our moderation guidelines before that they're published on Violet.

642
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So I feel like we should play with violence.

643
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 4: We'll have some fun.

644
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So now I'm on here we are.

645
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: The best thing is like it gave me a usernameed

646
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: ass it like suggested it and I was like, I

647
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: love this user name so much.

648
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: It's shadow avalanche Lore.

649
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 4: Badass.

650
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: We love it.

651
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: Going back to my MySpace day for some reason, I'm like, wow,

652
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: like some emo Shadow Avalanche Lore, and so that's me

653
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: on Violet Shadow Avalanche Lore. I think I might have

654
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: to change my tagline.

655
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: I need to.

656
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: You have to help me get like more creator friendly,

657
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: maybe because like I think I'm.

658
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: Too like in my head, Yeah, I just feel like

659
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: a fun bio.

660
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: I was curiosity, empathy, and agency.

661
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 4: I think I think it can be a little cooler,

662
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 4: but scriptures are good. But yeah, like now that I hear.

663
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: It, I'm like, this is so princh reorthly, like clearly, clearly,

664
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 1: this is my first time on here.

665
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm gonna change that.

666
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: But then I go to so if I go to

667
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, messaging, messaging, okay, start training, so unlock your

668
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: AI chat for your friends.

669
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: Okay. So then it's.

670
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: Gonna go into the Violet A. It's gonna ask you

671
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: a few questions.

672
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: You know, nothing would make me happier than to make

673
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: AI Laurie available for people who listen to this so

674
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: they can hang out with her.

675
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: Okay, it says, I'm Violet. Nice to meet you.

676
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm here to help you set up your persona a profile,

677
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: and I want to get to know the real you.

678
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: Can you tell me a bit about yourself whatever feels

679
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: important or interesting to share, So any advice, I'm like,

680
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: I like, you're a reporter, I'm a focused on tech.

681
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm tech journalists all right York.

682
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: But I probably shouldn't mention I have a pet ax

683
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: A Lottle. I think child and a child?

684
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: Is that not?

685
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 4: Aren't they both your children?

686
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: That's true, it's true, it's true.

687
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, Butter, that's your first Butter's my ax

688
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: A Lottle who lives in New York. Uh runs mostly

689
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: human media.

690
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: I have a pet ax A Lottle. Are you dying?

691
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: And how I'm training? Like AI?

692
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm sitting here kind of training my AI.

693
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: But I find that it's like asking me kind of

694
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: go a little bit more specific and to kind of

695
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: reveal other things. So how is this different than training

696
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: like than chet youbet or clod or some of these

697
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: other models and how they train?

698
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: So this is really meant to actually get to know

699
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: you in a way that then it can represent you

700
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: to other people. Which is you know, again a personal chat,

701
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: diving a little bit deeper than you know you might elsewhere,

702
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: but also in a way that's also training on your

703
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 3: tone of voice. You can put in emojis you use,

704
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: and then under settings you're able to further customize everything.

705
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: You know.

706
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: Cool, if you're like, oh, I'm personally I'm very optimistic,

707
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: so I have that one slid all the way up,

708
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: or you can say like oh, undertone of voice, you

709
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: might be more formal, you might be long. You know,

710
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: you may chat longer, shorter. So we really give a

711
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: lot of customization options to creators to be able to

712
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: be like, okay, this is how I chat, or like

713
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 3: I want to just tweak it a little bit more. Yeah,

714
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 3: and as you're using it, it just continues to get

715
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: to know you, like, yeah.

716
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 4: That's really it.

717
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: Like I put on mine, I added a bunch of

718
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 3: emojis that I use when I text my friends. Cool,

719
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 3: and it feels much more personal. Okay, So I'm sixty

720
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: percent training trained. I can come back to training even

721
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 3: come you can return to your your training.

722
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: Okay, and then can I can we look at my

723
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: AI twin.

724
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: Yes, so we can generate an image so what happens

725
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 3: when it's trained is that then it's known Violet AI

726
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 3: knows who you are. It has like your digital image stored,

727
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: So then you're able to go to create a post

728
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 3: and then you're able to generate an AI image.

729
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, So first of all, let me show you

730
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: my AI twin.

731
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: I just I mean, I mean, she's beautiful, she's stuns like,

732
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: I feel like I really want to do what my

733
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: AI twin is doing to take care of herself.

734
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: To be honest, she's like, it's just like kind of

735
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: a bit of an elevated.

736
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's IM saying. It's just like, oh, it's like

737
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 4: a bit more. It's like a little for.

738
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: Me before the wedding, you know, it was like me

739
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: when I had taken care of my I mean, you

740
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: look right now, you know.

741
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: So now I go back and now if I want

742
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: to create my first post, I go to a new post.

743
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 4: Then you can do.

744
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: Generate AI twin emmt okay, oh wow, describe your vision

745
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: so far, I've done like a very poor job of

746
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: being a creator on here.

747
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 4: So well, that's where the presots come in.

748
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 3: So then you can kind of like you know, feel

749
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 3: it out, be like Oh do I want.

750
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 4: To be on a rooftop?

751
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: I want to be on a b Yeah, I want

752
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: to be in the forest. Oh okay, So it's giving

753
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: me options.

754
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: This is great.

755
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: So it says, describe your vision, tell us what you

756
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: want to see, so your mood, outfit, anything like that.

757
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: So I'm going to say in a lush forest. It

758
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: gives me the options of sexy, classy, edgy, dreamy, dark, oh, luxurious.

759
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll be luxurious, I mean forest like does that okay? Oh? Okay,

760
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: luxurious outfit? Oh so I could.

761
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to put myself in laundry on this one.

762
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I just feel like all of us

763
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: aren't there yet.

764
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 4: It'll be for the subscription, dear, for the subscription.

765
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: That's for Charlie's college.

766
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 4: Fun.

767
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: Let's do glam. This is so fun. Okay, enhancing my prompt.

768
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I can see it's much more detailed. Or if

769
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: you wanted to add in, like, oh I want to

770
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: wear a.

771
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: Red or okay, elegant and shimmering gown forest twilight. Oh

772
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: it's not golden light, opulent moss covered stones, rich velvet, fabric, dreamy, romantic,

773
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: sign me up.

774
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 4: Okay.

775
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: So now I generate it for seven credits.

776
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: Yes, right, go ahead, and her gouge.

777
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a little low cut for me, Amy, it's

778
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: a little literally, they're.

779
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: Like not making like contact.

780
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean, oh yeah, I mean she looks good.

781
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 4: She's she's she's.

782
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: In a gown in a forest, and she has a

783
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: great brawl on whatever's making them.

784
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: Wait, this is so fun. Yeah, so you can knowing? Okay,

785
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: So now what do I do with this?

786
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 4: So you can share it as a post?

787
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 2: Okay?

788
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: Okay, so it says I can start over create a post.

789
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, do I want to put this?

790
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: Why not?

791
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 4: Why not?

792
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: Why not? Oh my god, Amy, look at you helping

793
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: me stretch.

794
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 4: Look by the way, it's next.

795
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: To my profile photo with like me and a shirt

796
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: that's like basically up to my neck and shoulder pads.

797
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: Just fyi. Okay, but it's not real, So here we

798
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 2: go next.

799
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: That's also another point, you know, it's kind of being

800
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: a little bit more adventurous, and you might be than

801
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 3: how you may dress every day.

802
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: I feel like this one's more the girlfriend experience kind of,

803
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, she's not like, yeah, okay, here we go.

804
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: Oh, so here's my caption. I it's so bad at this.

805
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: I was literally was gonna say, like my first time,

806
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: and I know that's not what I've read.

807
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: Dreamy Walk, Dreamy, dreamy Walk.

808
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: I can't wait to start like sending these to my husband.

809
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 4: What are you doing another day for him?

810
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: Dream?

811
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: I know, another day in the office, out of the office,

812
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: and the nope, let's not try to be cheeky, all right,

813
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: and now I can select my tear.

814
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: Seems as though we should let this out. I'm not

815
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 2: ready for premium. Yeah, okay, dreamy Walk. Okay, oh my god, Okay,

816
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: here we go. She's live, she is live, she looks good.

817
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: That was fun. I have to that was fun, and

818
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: I would never put that out.

819
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 3: It's also it's probably not something normally where it's kind

820
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: of that exciting thing of like, oh what could I

821
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 3: look like in this?

822
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: And it's also to your point, this is not something

823
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: I would put on Instagram or like or fit. You know,

824
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: this is like it feels like a little bit different

825
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: over here, which I kind of like, it's a different

826
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: fact we're creative.

827
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: It just kind of lets you express yourself.

828
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I think is so interesting about

829
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: this is it just feels it feels different than some

830
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: things I've seen, because it does feel like we are

831
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: entering a world where there's AI slop and there's just

832
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: you don't know what's real and what's not, and you know,

833
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: you there's an inevitability of AI and social media, but

834
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: it feels like things have gotten really crowded and really

835
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: busy and we're not sure where the incentives are and

836
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: we're not sure what's behind it. So it certainly is

837
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: interesting to see what could the space open up to,

838
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: what are new opportunities in the chaos?

839
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 4: So I appreciate that.

840
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: And it's also just the transparency of knowing, like because

841
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 3: this AI or not? Yeah, And ultimately like people don't care,

842
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: they just want to know.

843
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: Well, but it is interesting, Like I guess my question

844
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: when we started out even with this podcast, was like,

845
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: are people going to care if it's AI? Like, are

846
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: people going to want to interact with, you know, with

847
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: an AI version of someone in? The answer I think

848
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: is resounding yes. And I guess the question is how

849
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: do you build guardrails around that? And what are the

850
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: ethical ways to do that? And for you, it sounds

851
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: like so much of that comes down to consent and transparency.

852
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely consent, transparency and control for a creator around their image,

853
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 3: how they use it. They have full you know, audience

854
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: over how how do I want to create AI? How

855
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 3: do I want to show up digitally? So there's nothing

856
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: that's not happening. If they don't like the image, then

857
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: they delete it or they generate a new one.

858
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: So give me advice on how I can make money

859
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: on Violet with how my AI Lori can go to

860
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: work and make money on Violet.

861
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: Well, let's get training and training your AI chat. We're

862
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 3: gonna we're going to populate your profile and then we'll

863
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 3: set up some subscription tires and then people can jump

864
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: onto Violet, they can chat with AI Lori and they

865
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: can see some of your content.

866
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 4: Real or AI. The h might not be might not

867
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: be out there for everyone.

868
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: And I guess we also have to change my tagline

869
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: from curiosity yeah agency.

870
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll help me come up with it.

871
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, the real life of Lori.

872
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: And so what do you think, because you have spent

873
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: so much time in the creator space, what's the next

874
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: cultural shift that you see coming?

875
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: I mean, Violet will be and really it's like there

876
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 3: needs to be a refresh in how people are using platforms,

877
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 3: and a lot of times that's what you know, all

878
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: of these public affairs conversations are leading to like what

879
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 3: are people seeing? You know, you look at youth and

880
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: adult spaces colliding online, which is, you know, what's happening

881
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: on every major social platform, whereas we, you know, took

882
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: youth out of that equation and we are fully you know,

883
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: in a adult social media platform, and that's never been

884
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: in the vernacular before. It's been more like, oh, is

885
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: it a creator platform, is it something spicy?

886
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 4: What does adult actually mean? And that's again going.

887
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: Back to like, oh, this is where the HBO of

888
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: social media analogy comes in because we find people understand

889
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: what that means. It's something for the mass market, a

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00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 3: broader audience, but with boundaries and guard rails.

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Speaker 1: Why does this work personal to you?

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00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of exciting to just create something

893
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: new that hasn't been done, hasn't been out there. I

894
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: can't say like, oh, this is a space I thought

895
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: I was going to go back into or something I

896
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 3: was like, you know, dreaming up for years and years,

897
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 3: but it really happened very organically with my co founder

898
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: Kaylee and just through our own conversations, and now it's

899
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: just this true passion of like, wait, there needs to

900
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 3: be something different out there and or a platform led

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00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 3: by women.

902
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 4: We stand for something.

903
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 3: We're all about trans parency, putting all of our users

904
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 3: in community first. And we've spent so much time on

905
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: the foundation of the platform in terms of the safety features.

906
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 3: You know, who are we using for age verification, how

907
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: are we going to moderate the content, how do we

908
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: prevent these bad actors.

909
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 4: From getting in?

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00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: And you know, there's nothing that you know, we haven't

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00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 3: thought about, you know, and that's just not you don't

912
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 3: really hear about that in businesses these days. It's like, oh,

913
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: how do we you know, make the quick dollar? How

914
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 3: do we do this? It's like we actually focused on

915
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: the infrastructure, the business model. Then we're like, okay, of

916
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: course we're going to have the monetization features, but going further,

917
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: like you know, we can have advertising in the future.

918
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: We can you know, do different things and operate in

919
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 3: a different way that just platforms haven't done before.

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00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: When you say we stand for something, what do you

921
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: stand for?

922
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: We stand for being a safe, inclusive community online really

923
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: where anyone can be their authentic self without feeling like the.

924
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: Pressures, the trolls, the.

925
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: You know, just the anxieties you're getting on other platforms.

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Speaker 3: That's what we don't want. We want someone to come

927
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 3: to Violet and be like, oh, this is cool. This

928
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 3: is where I can post this which I don't feel

929
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 3: comfortable sharing elsewhere.

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00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: So last question, where do you see Violet Like five

931
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Speaker 1: years from now, what does the future of this platform

932
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Speaker 1: look like?

933
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: Violet's going to be used by everyone? You know, we

934
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 3: see this platform just kind of taking over in terms

935
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: of being used more internationally. You know, you look at

936
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: the conversations around social media, and that's where we feel like,

937
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: again we are on the forefront of something that you know,

938
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 3: we're thinking in a way that other businesses and platforms

939
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: aren't thinking, where this is really much more about community,

940
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 3: social engagement, and then we're providing the tools for those

941
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: who want to be able to monetize. So that's where

942
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 3: we just see this like really spreading and taking over.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. Well, you can find both me and Amy on

944
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: a Violet.

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Speaker 1: I do answer all my messages all there, and she

946
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: answers all of her messages if you have any feedback.

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Speaker 2: So awesome, Thank you so much, Thank you so much fun,