Speaker 1: What's a Friends, are welcome into Fantasy Pros m LB.
Speaker 1: This is the MLB Trade Deadline Breakdown Show. I am
Speaker 1: Chris Welsh. That is Joe Rico, and we just went
Speaker 1: through the gauntlet of MLB trade deadline little behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: I was not to this matters, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: do this. I scheduled this together. I was like, we
Speaker 1: gotta do a trade deadline thing, not something we usually
Speaker 1: do here on Fantasy Pros. And I'm talking with Rico,
Speaker 1: and Rico's like, you know, we're gonna talk a lot
Speaker 1: about the trades, Like do you think there's gonna be enough?
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know, Joe. I'm like
Speaker 2: that's a good point, Like.
Speaker 1: We'll have to see. Hey, Rico, was that enough trades
Speaker 1: for you? From leading off until this in a five
Speaker 1: hour span? My god, what's up, buddy?
Speaker 3: The baseball gods laughed in my face today, as they
Speaker 3: usually do. The baseball gods more than any other sport
Speaker 3: gods laugh at the different fan bases, and today they did.
Speaker 3: For sure. It was like thirty semidd trades. I want
Speaker 3: to stay at the top of my head. Between the
Speaker 3: time we stopped recording, I saw you like, what two
Speaker 3: hours ago, it's already this chaos. But I think, honestly
Speaker 3: thinking about it, it might be the most exciting deadline
Speaker 3: in recent memory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what's really interesting about it is like it's
Speaker 1: tough because we had the I'm going to talk about
Speaker 1: it in just one second and we're gonna get to
Speaker 1: your questions. But you have the Scooball trade that happened
Speaker 1: over the weekend that was kind of the big one,
Speaker 1: but it never really let you know, it never stopped.
Speaker 1: Like obviously, I don't think we got like the groundbreaking
Speaker 1: blockbuster trade of insanity or anything like that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, we didn't have Like it doesn't
Speaker 1: look like we are three minutes. I mean we literally
Speaker 1: started this up as as well. I guess six Eastern
Speaker 1: hit three o'clock my time, as everything stopped, we hit records.
Speaker 1: We might get a couple of late stragglers, but for
Speaker 1: the most part, we did not see a zach netto go.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing one Klly is putting in that might have
Speaker 1: just got and through right at the deadline. I'm not
Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure. And that's actually funny enough. He's
Speaker 1: the guy that's like the graphic of our thing of
Speaker 1: Casey Mines. We have to confirm it, but like we
Speaker 1: didn't see like the block blockbusters, but we saw volume.
Speaker 1: We saw teams get in it, and I gotta be
Speaker 1: honest with you, we saw some.
Speaker 2: Big prospect trades as well.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give a cheap plug. I am going to
Speaker 1: be doing a full breakdown on my Prospect one podcast
Speaker 1: focusing on all of the prospects that were traded and guys,
Speaker 1: there were some big prospects that are lowered, you know,
Speaker 1: its names to people, Alexander Frios, Henry Lalani, like, there
Speaker 1: were some big ones that got traded. But this is
Speaker 1: going to be a hyper focus on the major league
Speaker 1: trades here and that the pure volume. I mean, if
Speaker 1: someone could pull it, if someone could pull like in
Speaker 1: a twenty four hour span from when the trade deadline
Speaker 1: ends before that, this has to be on sheer volume,
Speaker 1: one of the heaviest trade deadline days for sure.
Speaker 3: I think so. And it is confirmed Kelly was Casey
Speaker 3: Maiz is a member of the Padres.
Speaker 1: That's a brutal one too, because the Diamondbacks were We're
Speaker 1: looking at him, all right, So that's gonna be near
Speaker 1: the top. We got our boy Thunderstud that's in here.
Speaker 1: We'll like like other random fantasy questions too. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be uh, we're gonna kind of break through what
Speaker 1: all the trades were, and I'm gonna leave some space
Speaker 1: if you guys have questions, if you guys whatever it is,
Speaker 1: like to keep it specifically trade deadline, like the Big Dance,
Speaker 1: just put a great one in that's gonna be one
Speaker 1: of the top ones. So Thunderstud, hold tight here, You're
Speaker 1: gonna be the first up because you did a super
Speaker 1: chat and then the Big Dance. That's the exact type
Speaker 1: of stuff I'm talking about. So I'd love to get
Speaker 1: very trade deadline specific things, whether it's buying into players,
Speaker 1: new situations, whatever it is. So we're gonna leave some
Speaker 1: space to answer some questions. Maybe you need to vent.
Speaker 1: I know some Brewers fans are pretty upset, and I
Speaker 1: think there's you know, some people out there that aren't
Speaker 1: loving all of those and some players that didn't get traded.
Speaker 1: So definitely put those questions in. Our boy sal behind
Speaker 1: the scenes will be highlighting some of those and we'll
Speaker 1: ge have some space for it as we're going to
Speaker 1: get into this. Want to remind you guys before we
Speaker 1: start up that you guys can catch leading off right
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Speaker 1: hours or an hour or so after, so make sure
Speaker 1: to check that out Twitch dot Tv, Slash Fantasy Pros.
Speaker 1: I will be on the Wednesday show. If we have
Speaker 1: any other like further reactions, I think we'll have had
Speaker 1: the schooble start that's happened in there, so make sure
Speaker 1: you're hanging out with us. So the thing I want
Speaker 1: to start with real quick, because this happened over the weekend.
Speaker 1: We already talked about this on today's Leading Off, so
Speaker 1: there's nothing to break down with it. But I thought
Speaker 1: this was really interesting kind of setting the stage to
Speaker 1: see for how many of you are hanging out with us,
Speaker 1: what questions come in when we break down the trades, but.
Speaker 2: If we could pull this up. This was Trek Scuble.
Speaker 1: Talking today and I thought this was really interesting because
Speaker 1: he is scheduled, I believe to pitch tomorrow quickly on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of controversy around the trade. We
Speaker 1: talked about it in that like you really we neither
Speaker 1: one of us really blamed the Dodgers, by the way,
Speaker 1: because like a lot of teams had the ability to
Speaker 1: do it. It just looks for bad for baseball. Well, Trek
Speaker 1: Scuble decided to weigh in after being traded to the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: and he said, quote, every team could trade for me.
Speaker 1: I don't sympathize with people that blame the Dodgers for
Speaker 1: anything they've done. It's a winning org. I really don't
Speaker 1: sympathize it. Sympathize with people that are complaining because the
Speaker 1: Dodgers do all the right things. Quite the quote from
Speaker 1: Terrek Scouble defending his new team here, that was Yahoo Sports.
Speaker 1: I think had put that out and that's their graphic
Speaker 1: as far as the tweet goes. But I just wanted
Speaker 1: to get your quick take on seeing Trek Scouoble kind
Speaker 1: of come to that early defense. And since we're not
Speaker 1: gonna fully get into all this business talking about him here,
Speaker 1: any last thoughts before we start talking about.
Speaker 3: These didn't take long for the mask to come off,
Speaker 3: missus Schooble. You've been a Dodger for all of five
Speaker 3: minutes and you're already embracing the culture. But I said
Speaker 3: it on leading off earlier, I'll say it again. I
Speaker 3: can't really blame the Dodge. The rules are allowing them
Speaker 3: to do what they're doing. Why wouldn't they Why wouldn't
Speaker 3: they take advantage of all the other owners sitting on
Speaker 3: their hands and doing absolutely nothing. You got the Brewers
Speaker 3: setting legitimate package after Dustin May and not trying to
Speaker 3: go get Trek Scoogle, So why wouldn't the Dodgers do this?
Speaker 3: Hard to blame them at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're gonna get to see him right out
Speaker 1: the gates. And by the way, I saw that you
Speaker 1: reference to tweet or some people some chatter in the internet.
Speaker 1: I saw it after we got them with the show
Speaker 1: of someone being like so based off of Baseball America,
Speaker 1: they're saying that the Angels got a better return, and
Speaker 1: it was like, well, dude, that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't agree with the ranking, and I don't care
Speaker 1: what the ranking says. But also there's a side thing.
Speaker 1: Two years of control versus two months of control is different,
Speaker 1: Like you do have to consider the amount of control
Speaker 1: you have on a player that equals the return. That's
Speaker 1: why Schooble was so complicated. He's one of the best
Speaker 1: players in all of baseball, but it is a two
Speaker 1: month rental. And on top of everything that Scooba wanted
Speaker 1: to play with the Dodgers and was going to come
Speaker 1: back after how likely did any team really feel that
Speaker 1: they were going to be competitive in re signing when
Speaker 1: the CBA comes in. So it's like, I actually kind
Speaker 1: of don't blame a lot of the teams. But then
Speaker 1: that gets back into a weird scenario of like, you know,
Speaker 1: competitive sides of baseball and stuff. As they they gave
Speaker 1: up Zay or Hope, which I said, I think from
Speaker 1: a fantasy perspective, Hope Overnamala.
Speaker 2: Like hands down, and they got River Ryan.
Speaker 1: But I understand, you know, all.
Speaker 2: Of the chaos sits with it, but he is already.
Speaker 1: In the streets defending those Dodgers. Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know the JJ Cooper thing is interesting,
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure how much stock I want to
Speaker 3: put into it, given that we are a fantasy show
Speaker 3: and it's probably more of a real life take based
Speaker 3: on the fact that he's a shortstop, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3: But it also just feeds into me being a self
Speaker 3: loathing Blue Jays fan, So I will take every opportunity
Speaker 3: that I can to poop poove my franchise. But the Jays,
Speaker 3: we'll talk about it that Jay's made a couple of
Speaker 3: decent moves today. It was it was a crazy deadline Wels,
Speaker 3: So I'm still trying to process it all. There's still
Speaker 3: so much going through my head right now.
Speaker 2: It was it was so oh so crazy.
Speaker 1: It really really was. And we're going to kind of
Speaker 1: go through some of these trades and I'll tie in Thunderstuds.
Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna do is I'm going to go
Speaker 1: in little buckets of the trade deadline, because, like I said,
Speaker 1: I want to leave some breathing room for some trades,
Speaker 1: and specifically if you guys have trades centered around some
Speaker 1: of the guys we talk about. But let's kind of
Speaker 1: so again, there were some trades that happened earlier this
Speaker 1: morning that we're not necessarily talking about. This is essentially
Speaker 1: trades that happened after leading off, So a five hour
Speaker 1: span of like I swear to god, like thirty plus trades,
Speaker 1: a gajillion players traded. So Scoogle can come off because
Speaker 1: we've talked enough about him, and let's start up with
Speaker 1: what is probably the biggest blockbuster of the day, Adlei Rutchman.
Speaker 1: Ali Rutchman was traded to the Boston Red Sox. And
Speaker 1: what was a pretty big trade because there were a
Speaker 1: multitude of huge prospects. I told you we're not going
Speaker 1: to talk a ton about prospects here, but that is
Speaker 1: the key here. The Orioles acquired five players, three prospects,
Speaker 1: all three high end guys in the top five if
Speaker 1: you care about what Baseball America or like MLB pipeline
Speaker 1: has to say, probably Baseball America two in that respect.
Speaker 1: They got Carlos Navarez and a player to be named later,
Speaker 1: all for Atlei Richman, who has an extra year of eligibility.
Speaker 1: The prospects involved was the big deal. Anthony Einsen and
Speaker 1: Kyson Witherspoon are two high high end pitchers. Now, there
Speaker 1: was an interesting thing. I don't even know if we
Speaker 1: pulled anything from it, but I highly suggest going to
Speaker 1: listen to it. Lance Brasdowski was on foul Territory and
Speaker 1: he had this kind of I think he might have
Speaker 1: thought it was a throwaway common at the end, but
Speaker 1: it ends up being what foul Territory clipped where he said,
Speaker 1: you know, he goes through. He was shocked about the
Speaker 1: trade and said he ended up speaking he had one
Speaker 1: what was it, one GM or one person in baseball
Speaker 1: that said the Orioles got fleeced because they took on
Speaker 1: a bunch of broken pieces, essentially saying maybe they were
Speaker 1: just talking about Witherspoon because Witherspoon's been kind of broken,
Speaker 1: but really tearing apart this trade. But I think every
Speaker 1: other human being besides that guy looks and goes wow,
Speaker 1: that is a huge trade for Adley Ruchman, who does
Speaker 1: have an extra year of control. He goes in to
Speaker 1: Boston gets he's going to be their catcher. He's part
Speaker 1: of that offense. I guess I will just stop on
Speaker 1: this one for a second. This was a huge, a
Speaker 1: huge overall trade, but the fantasy impact for this season
Speaker 1: is solely around what Adley Ruchmand can do in Boston.
Speaker 1: This kind of feels like this could be a plus.
Speaker 3: Joe, Yeah, I think the Red Sox probably did pretty
Speaker 3: well here. And as you guys know, I'm not the
Speaker 3: biggest prospect guy, but it seems like a heck of
Speaker 3: a return. But you have to pay up to acquire
Speaker 3: game changing type of players, and that's where people will
Speaker 3: probably shut off the stream and say it's Adley Rutchman.
Speaker 3: He hasn't done anything, and that seems to be the
Speaker 3: prevailing sentiment that Adley Rutchman has been a bust and
Speaker 3: he's not lived up to the hype, and he's not
Speaker 3: very good and he's injury prone. Since Adley Rudchmand debuted
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, there are only two catchers who
Speaker 3: have a higher fangrafs wins by replacement. It's Cal Rawley
Speaker 3: and it's William Contreras. I think Adli Rutchman is really
Speaker 3: good and this is a position of need for the
Speaker 3: Red Sox. Maybe they overpaid slightly, but locking in a
Speaker 3: catcher who is still just twenty eight years old, who
Speaker 3: is going to be your backstop for the next probably
Speaker 3: six seven years, most likely, you have to assume that
Speaker 3: there will be some talks of extension, but it is
Speaker 3: a weird trade. I will say this, like trading your
Speaker 3: franchise one of your franchise cornerstones within the division is
Speaker 3: not something you see very often. The Orioles progression over
Speaker 3: the last couple of years of like, you know, we
Speaker 3: have this upcoming group of prospects, and they're going to
Speaker 3: change our team and change the organization, and it's been
Speaker 3: so disappointing. It's really they have not lived up to
Speaker 3: the hype even a little bit.
Speaker 1: Thunderstood. Getting to his question again, I'm gonna leave more
Speaker 1: time for it, but might intertwine them. He had said,
Speaker 1: I've got a rule of no socks players. So the
Speaker 1: Retchmen trades killing him Alvarez or Stevenson as a replacement.
Speaker 1: By the way, Stevenson was pretty heavily Another aside here,
Speaker 1: I just realized the Reds were this team that we're
Speaker 1: gonna sell off all these pieces, and they just traded
Speaker 1: what low that was it. They we're gonna trade off
Speaker 1: Hunter Green and they were gonna trade off Tyler Stevenson.
Speaker 1: And there were a ton of rumors about it, and
Speaker 1: they didn't do much of it. Anything but I mean
Speaker 1: I would not, by the way, follow this rule th understood.
Speaker 1: I would stick with Retchmond over these guys. But if
Speaker 1: you had to pick one, who would you.
Speaker 3: Go with, I mean it's ro it would be Richmond,
Speaker 3: but I would say Alvarez if you get that hard line.
Speaker 3: I like what Alvarez has done this year. Another guy
Speaker 3: that feels like because he's missed some time, he doesn't
Speaker 3: get the dew he's probably deserved. But I take Alvarez,
Speaker 3: and I say that as a guy who's been a
Speaker 3: pro Stevenson guy for years. But I'm kind of over
Speaker 3: it and can over it at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would probably also do the same. So the
Speaker 1: Adlai Richmond trade kind of a big deal. I think
Speaker 1: that's a big plus in fantasy. They also made another
Speaker 1: big trade. This was shocking to me because my first
Speaker 1: reaction was like, they didn't do anything with this. They
Speaker 1: traded Marcelo Mayer, And there was a time we thought
Speaker 1: Marcelo Mayer was going to potentially be a piece that
Speaker 1: could you know, be a part of like a Zach
Speaker 1: neetto trade or maybe even with the Diamondbacks, and they
Speaker 1: traded him for Eric Miller. I mean Eric Miller's a
Speaker 1: solid lefty reliever, and I think they did maybe want
Speaker 1: a little bit that more in the bullpen, So I
Speaker 1: think maybe from like a complete baseball perspective, but like,
Speaker 1: how do we not look at this as being like
Speaker 1: you just did not give the runway for a guy
Speaker 1: to mature and become a full time player.
Speaker 2: This is the type of trade that reeks the.
Speaker 1: Criticism of Breslo and their team where they do not
Speaker 1: know how to properly wait and or develop some of
Speaker 1: their players. And this I don't know if San Francisco
Speaker 1: is the best environment, but you just could feel it
Speaker 1: like he goes over there, he's going to be a
Speaker 1: worthwhile player. I don't know if it'd be like this
Speaker 1: big fantasy guy or anything like that, but he goes
Speaker 1: out and hits like two seventy and is like at
Speaker 1: least in the high teens of homers. Like maybe he's
Speaker 1: a better real life player than not. But this one
Speaker 1: had my head scratching.
Speaker 3: Dude, I don't I don't really get it, and I was,
Speaker 3: you know, I praise the Red Sox for the Retchmen deal,
Speaker 3: and then in the next breath, I'll criticize them for
Speaker 3: this one because I don't know what you're doing trading
Speaker 3: a guy in Marcello Mayer, who granted has struggled to
Speaker 3: this point, but we're talking three hundred and sixty four
Speaker 3: played appearances. We're talking about just over a half season
Speaker 3: worth of plate appearances, and you're giving up on him
Speaker 3: for a guy in Miller who's a pretty serviceable reliever,
Speaker 3: but also with his wartz as well. We're talking about
Speaker 3: a guy who has a fifteen percent walk rate, a
Speaker 3: one forty whip. I mean, just a year ago he
Speaker 3: had a seventeen percent strikeout rate. I know it was
Speaker 3: only a thirty inning season for him last year, but
Speaker 3: there are definitely some head scratching elements to this trade.
Speaker 3: Paul Sport says something a lot, and it's been drilled
Speaker 3: into my head that you can't really judge a player
Speaker 3: until they have a thousand plate appearances in the big leagues,
Speaker 3: and Jordan Walker is the huge example of that this year.
Speaker 3: Every now and then, you can make a judgment before that,
Speaker 3: but until you get to at least like two full seasons,
Speaker 3: you don't really know what you have. And they're trading
Speaker 3: Mayor without really knowing what he is. He's a guy
Speaker 3: who could develop into a really good defensive player, probably
Speaker 3: not at short but second or third. I could really
Speaker 3: see it, and you've just abandoned the bat And what
Speaker 3: is he twenty three? Twenty three, maybe twenty four years old.
Speaker 3: It's a head scratching for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't understand it. Whatsoeverything is a great move
Speaker 1: by the Giants, and you know, future team building. They've
Speaker 1: got all these guys that like have these ridiculous contracts,
Speaker 1: and it's like you could build around Marcela Mayer, especially
Speaker 1: if you can fix them. Hopefully they can. I thought
Speaker 1: this was a this is a great real life baseball move,
Speaker 1: but you know that doesn't necessarily you know, turn the
Speaker 1: dial a bunch. I do want to talk about this.
Speaker 1: I don't think we had a graphic because it literally
Speaker 1: happened as soon as we started up. But I want
Speaker 1: to talk about the Ksey Mice thing for a second,
Speaker 1: so we can go back to two box unless we
Speaker 1: did have a graphic. But the Casey Mize trade to
Speaker 1: San Diego is pretty shocking. Their's in the Diamondbacks. We're
Speaker 1: trying like crazy to go and get Casey Mice. He
Speaker 1: was a good rental starting pitcher and This kind of
Speaker 1: just said that this team is gonna they're gonna make
Speaker 1: a run for it, like they want to be competitive.
Speaker 1: What was the other move that they made. Didn't they
Speaker 1: make another move that am? I like just forgetting about it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they got a Robbie so we can jump in.
Speaker 1: You're welcome to throwing Robbie Ray as well. Since we're
Speaker 1: just talking about the Padres for a second, they acquired
Speaker 1: Robby Ray, which, by the way, I'm just gonna throw out.
Speaker 1: Joniel Hernandez is actually kind of a dude. This might
Speaker 1: be one of those trades long term. We go back
Speaker 1: and look and we're like, wow, the Padres gave up
Speaker 1: a dude, so this is actually a good return for
Speaker 1: the Giants. Miguel Mendez is also kind of interesting. But
Speaker 1: Robbie Ray goes from a really good pitching environment too,
Speaker 1: a really good pitching environment, and they were able to,
Speaker 1: you know, bring in two starting pitchers to fill out
Speaker 1: that rotation. I'm actually thoroughly impressed that the Padres Casey Maiz,
Speaker 1: Robbie Ray, that's paired with what Michael King or yeah,
Speaker 1: Michael King one of the best bullpen pieces out there,
Speaker 1: an incredible bullpen overall, there was a Morione rumor that
Speaker 1: was floating out there. Talk to me about Fantasy repercussions
Speaker 1: and thoughts on Robbie Ray and Casey miz both going
Speaker 1: This was the biggest starting pitching acquisition of impact of
Speaker 1: any team was the Padres, and they became aggressive buyers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll start with Casey Miz. He's somebody that
Speaker 3: I've really come into loving this year. I did a
Speaker 3: show of there across a couple of weeks ago, going
Speaker 3: through stat Cast leader boards, and Casey Mees was up
Speaker 3: there on a couple different ones, but I think the
Speaker 3: main one that we discussed him on was the ex
Speaker 3: wOBA allowed and he was one of the top ten
Speaker 3: or top fifteen pitchers in terms of the opposing x wOBA.
Speaker 3: He has a sub one whip, he has a sub
Speaker 3: three ERA, all the supporting metrics are in that two
Speaker 3: and a half to three type of range, really good command,
Speaker 3: He's up the strikeouts this year. This is a legitimate
Speaker 3: starting pitcher, Casey mice is.
Speaker 1: So I'm not just I just want to throw out.
Speaker 1: I had not seen the return, and my reaction with
Speaker 1: if anyone just saw that was just seeing the return
Speaker 1: Casey Meies, by the way, is an undersearch a free
Speaker 1: agent after this year. This is a rental. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: gave up cash Mayfield. Cash Mayfield was the top prospect
Speaker 1: in their system. Looks like, you know, maybe he's not
Speaker 1: like a high high high end like elite fantasy ace.
Speaker 1: I am shocked they gave up cash Mayfield for a rental.
Speaker 1: But then I'm also not shocked because it's Preller And
Speaker 1: now I see why the Diamondbacks could not get Casey
Speaker 1: Mice because holy crap, that's a huge return. Casey miz
Speaker 1: is the type of guy that you would have used
Speaker 1: if you were trying to go get like a Zach Nedo.
Speaker 1: I mean we were talking like again, like he's not
Speaker 1: like a top twenty five overall prospect or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but that's like in the line of like a top
Speaker 1: one hundred overall pitcher. Also, Jackson Wolf is a decent
Speaker 1: piece that kind of took me by here because I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I actually think if we'll briefly kind
Speaker 1: of do this, because you know, we're only here for
Speaker 1: a short period of time doing this, if we had
Speaker 1: to start picking like who the biggest biggest beneficiaries, I
Speaker 1: think This is one of the beneficiaries Casey Mice Like,
Speaker 1: this is probably in my top five. The next guy
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about, it's probably like my number one,
Speaker 1: But this is one of I like Robbie Ray, I
Speaker 1: think this is actually a solid place. But Casey Miz
Speaker 1: specifically to me, is like an extra little boost.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had good luck with the home run suppression
Speaker 3: this year, but last year it was a little bit
Speaker 3: of a problem for him. It was twenty one homers
Speaker 3: last season, up a lot of fly balls. So being
Speaker 3: in San Diego, I think that's a big boost for
Speaker 3: his profile. But I was able to pull up that leaderboard.
Speaker 3: I was expected wOBA for pitchers, and he ranks thirteenth
Speaker 3: among all pitchers who have thrown at least two hundred
Speaker 3: or who have faced at least two hundred balls in
Speaker 3: play this year. So he has a better expected wOBA
Speaker 3: than guys like Drew Rasmussen, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Chase Burns, Christopher Sanchez.
Speaker 3: He's been a dude. He really has been an underrated
Speaker 3: ace this season and this is a really good pickup.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Robbi Ray is as impactful at
Speaker 3: this stage of his career. Drakeout's kind of down. We
Speaker 3: did a video I think it was with you, maybe
Speaker 3: with Bubba selling Robbie Ray a few weeks ago, just
Speaker 3: because I'm not sure the strikeouts are coming back the
Speaker 3: way that we need them to. But as rotation depth
Speaker 3: for a team like again, I said this, maybe it
Speaker 3: was on the show actually with Peter a couple days ago,
Speaker 3: that the Padres. You know, if you look at their
Speaker 3: whole team, the only real glaring weakness is the starting rotation.
Speaker 3: That lineup is pretty good, and they've had a really
Speaker 3: good July too. Machado pulled it around, Merrill has been great,
Speaker 3: and Jake Cronaworth as well. Well. They filled their biggest need.
Speaker 3: So good for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not really anymore. I mean they've created depth. I
Speaker 1: think they did a good job. Let's keep a running
Speaker 1: tally as we roll through here of our favorite, like
Speaker 1: most impactful changes, and I think Casey Miis is the
Speaker 1: first one that's gonna jump up here. I am gonna
Speaker 1: be I want to do one more main one, and
Speaker 1: then I want to burn through some others, and then
Speaker 1: I want to get your questions. So again, we've got
Speaker 1: a couple questions in here, but feel free. If you've
Speaker 1: got any questions related to the trade deadline, that's important,
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to these. The other one
Speaker 1: I think of big importance here and then well, there's
Speaker 1: like a couple in here, but I'm trying to stick
Speaker 1: with us because I want to answer questions. Is let's
Speaker 1: roll out the Luke Weaver one, because in my mind,
Speaker 1: this is the most impactful trade from where they were
Speaker 1: to where they are now. Erico and I just did
Speaker 1: a trade video, and I'll tell you right now, I
Speaker 1: put Luke Weaver on there. I understand people now understand
Speaker 1: he's a closer, but I think Luke Weaver has the
Speaker 1: potential to be a top ten closer in baseball. Given
Speaker 1: this opportunity, one of him or Devin Williams is going
Speaker 1: to get traded. He's the guy that goes. He goes
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh should instantly become their closer. They gave up
Speaker 1: a kind of big give. By the way, Sammy Stefferr
Speaker 1: was having an absolute Berserko season in the month of July.
Speaker 1: No prospect had more home runs the entire minor league
Speaker 1: system of any team than Sammy Steffura, So he was
Speaker 1: going off. So this is a big piece. But Luke Weaver,
Speaker 1: to me, goes in his like twenty seven percent K percentage.
Speaker 1: He's been locked down. You're going to be closing out
Speaker 1: games now for guys like schemes. Hopefully Devall doesn't keep
Speaker 1: blowing them. They've got to put themselves in positions to
Speaker 1: keep winning. But I think this is one of the
Speaker 1: most impactful. So I'm gonna put this in our our
Speaker 1: big boost with Casey Maiz here. Do you agree with me?
Speaker 1: What do you think about the Luke Weaver trade.
Speaker 3: I do agree that he should be the closer. I'm
Speaker 3: not one hundred percent sure that he'll just be handed
Speaker 3: the reins, and I'm still kind of going back and
Speaker 3: forth on Soda Well Sodo. I'm just looking at his
Speaker 3: numbers for the year. He has a three sixty ninety RA,
Speaker 3: he has a one zero six whip, he has a
Speaker 3: seventeen percent strikeout to Walker, he's done his job at
Speaker 3: fourteen saves. He's blown a couple of them, but he's
Speaker 3: pretty much been doing what they've asked him to do.
Speaker 3: You have Luke Weaver, you have Timilla Devall, who they
Speaker 3: also picked up, and then you have Kirby Yates, who
Speaker 3: they also grabbed at the deadline. A lot of guys
Speaker 3: with closing experience are around there. I do think that
Speaker 3: it should be Luke Weaver. I'm not a one hundred
Speaker 3: percent sure that they will give him the rains though.
Speaker 3: That's my worry. Mason Montgomery is also in contention there.
Speaker 3: They're just a lot of guys that could get saves.
Speaker 3: I'm not one hundred percent sure if they will just
Speaker 3: hand the rains over immediately to the new guy.
Speaker 1: I think Montgomery's great, but I think there's a specific
Speaker 1: reason you brought in Luke Weaver. Now here is your
Speaker 1: worst case. This is what I will relent if he's
Speaker 1: a fireman. Fireman's the worst because then that's the high
Speaker 1: leverage guy, and that's what he has done a ton
Speaker 1: in his career. He was doing that with the Yankees.
Speaker 1: Sum if he's one of those guys. If the most
Speaker 1: important part of the lineup is there in the eighth,
Speaker 1: then they might bring in Luke Weaver and then a
Speaker 1: guy like Sodo gets the save. So that is definite possibility.
Speaker 1: But you know what, let those question marks be the
Speaker 1: reason that I get to go buy him. You know,
Speaker 1: that's the reason that I want to go and buy
Speaker 1: on Luke Weaver. I think he's there's a very specific
Speaker 1: reason why you go make that move you trade a
Speaker 1: high end prospect, is you let him be the guy
Speaker 1: that closes out games. The problem that the pirates have,
Speaker 1: and now that you're actually talking me into it a
Speaker 1: little bit, is sometimes they'll put them in, they'll put
Speaker 1: themselves in the position where you getting to that win.
Speaker 1: So they might need a Luke Weaver to be in
Speaker 1: those higher leverage spots. So I actually hope I'm wrong
Speaker 1: about that, but I think he has a potential to
Speaker 1: be a top ten closer. I'm not sure where everybody
Speaker 1: else is on that.
Speaker 3: Anything else, No, skill wise, I agree. I just the
Speaker 3: usage will be interesting to see, and for a lot
Speaker 3: of my leagues, it's a Sunday night fab, so we'll
Speaker 3: have a whole week to see how the usage goes
Speaker 3: over the next week, so we will have a good
Speaker 3: little sample size for sure before we actually have to
Speaker 3: make fids.
Speaker 1: All right, one more of the big breakdowns I'm gonna do,
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to go a little bit quicker
Speaker 1: to just get through the rest, and then we are
Speaker 1: going to start bringing up your questions. I've been targeting
Speaker 1: some as well. The next trade up was Foster Griffin.
Speaker 1: I was actually very surprised that this trade went down
Speaker 1: because I don't know the Nationals. I know they traded
Speaker 1: away Luis Garcia. I guess there was just a weirdness
Speaker 1: to me of like why did they trade off some
Speaker 1: of these pieces? They took advantage of the insane season
Speaker 1: that Foster Griffin was having. It was a sub three
Speaker 1: e are I think, really good shapes, lots of pitch,
Speaker 1: mixed stuff. He's been incredible whole year. I will say,
Speaker 1: when you look at them taking advantage of it, I'm
Speaker 1: not really sure they got four prospects back. I don't not.
Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Hartle's interesting. It might be a guy,
Speaker 1: but I'm kind of shocked that you make this move
Speaker 1: and then you just got depth. You didn't get like
Speaker 1: a good, really good piece to it. But Griffin goes
Speaker 1: in with the Guardians, and I think this was a
Speaker 1: great play the Guardians. We talked about it earlier. Did
Speaker 1: they got Joe Adell? They got a power bat, He's
Speaker 1: going to lead you to the top of Homers. And
Speaker 1: then now they got a guy that they get to
Speaker 1: pair with Parker Messik and with Gavin Williams who's been nuts.
Speaker 1: So this is another one of those I mean, do
Speaker 1: you view this as like a plu I kind of
Speaker 1: think I do view this as a plus. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I think this is one of the biggest
Speaker 1: changes of the deadline, but this is a plus. Him
Speaker 1: going to the Guardians.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess he's thirty one years old, he's a
Speaker 3: free agent at the end of the year, and I
Speaker 3: guess they'd probably had some internal discussions that led them
Speaker 3: to believe he wasn't going to come back, and this
Speaker 3: is their chance to cash in. And I mean, he's
Speaker 3: done about everything he can to cash in. He's won
Speaker 3: twelve of his twenty two starts. He has a three
Speaker 3: h six er, he's a one zero seven whip. He's
Speaker 3: saved a couple of my fantasy teams this year, for sure.
Speaker 3: I just I don't love it from a front office
Speaker 3: that seems to be more forward thinking, and they had
Speaker 3: the best offense in all of baseball and they traded
Speaker 3: one of the major pieces for that, and now they've
Speaker 3: traded their ace. So I'm not sure what the direction
Speaker 3: is long term, but I guess if they don't think
Speaker 3: that they could resign them, this is probably the thing
Speaker 3: that they should have done. It's just I can't speak
Speaker 3: to the quality of these prospects. You don't see him
Speaker 3: blown away by it.
Speaker 1: Though, no, not at all. Like Josh Hartle definitely could
Speaker 1: be a guy, but that's not what I'm trading. Like
Speaker 1: Nick Mitchell's kind of interesting, like this is just not
Speaker 1: a package that does anything for me. This is almost
Speaker 1: this is like a fantasy trade where someone's like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's like four guys, you know, and it's just like
Speaker 1: volume doesn't make me feel better about this. I would
Speaker 1: have much rather had some quality, get two guys one
Speaker 1: of a little better quality, and I just don't think
Speaker 1: they ended up doing that. So I didn't love that
Speaker 1: at all. All right, So the next few trades here,
Speaker 1: so I know, we got some graphics for them and
Speaker 1: we can definitely back you guys can put them up
Speaker 1: as I go. But my Arizona Diamondbacks picked up Lars Nutbar.
Speaker 1: I definitely love this trade. It's very funny, just because
Speaker 1: like my association with Lars Nutbar over the years, I
Speaker 1: kind of gave up on him this year, of course,
Speaker 1: and he's got an arbitrational year next year, so the
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks actually have some control. They traded Daniel Egan, which
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a dude. Rub and Santana
Speaker 1: had kind of fallen out of favor and a player
Speaker 1: to be named. My worry is that's probably going to
Speaker 1: be like a guy in the long term. But I
Speaker 1: don't hate this. I don't hate them getting some depth there.
Speaker 1: They were tied to Alec Burlson, they were tied to
Speaker 1: some pitchers. They didn't make any of it happen, but
Speaker 1: they got some more depth. So that was a decent one. Also,
Speaker 1: the biggest thing, and I'm going to put this is
Speaker 1: number three on our list of beneficiaries. Joshua Bias has
Speaker 1: clearly got to be coming up. This is making room
Speaker 1: for Joshua Bias if I've ever seen it in my life.
Speaker 1: So one, uh go and pick him up. This should
Speaker 1: lead to him being up like instantly. So Joshua Bias
Speaker 1: is a big one. I'm gonna just do a couple
Speaker 1: more and then we'll jump in. The Chicago Cubs made
Speaker 1: a handful of trades. The Cubs acquired Braxton Garrett from
Speaker 1: the Marlins. The Cubs then acquired Clay Holmes and Tyrone Taylor,
Speaker 1: which by the way, they ended up trading Jefferson Rojas,
Speaker 1: which is a big name prospect. And then they acquired
Speaker 1: Ryan Zephyrjan from the Angels, and they traded away Mois's ballasteros.
Speaker 1: That was actually some big moves. So they made three
Speaker 1: big moves, two to their rotation or yeah, two to
Speaker 1: their rotation, one on the bullpen, and they gave away
Speaker 1: a ton of pieces out there. So we can stop
Speaker 1: there for a second. Cubs moves.
Speaker 2: I threw the diamondback one in there. Anything of note
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 3: I've loved Lars Noubar going back to probably his first
Speaker 3: season in the Bigs. I've just always been really drawn
Speaker 3: to the high end base profiles. He's got some good
Speaker 3: power speed. He was a leadoff hitter there for a while.
Speaker 3: Last couple of years have not been terribly kind to him,
Speaker 3: mostly in terms of injuries, but a lot of the
Speaker 3: skills are still there. Fifty one percent heart hit rate
Speaker 3: this year best of his career. Ninety two mile an
Speaker 3: hour average exit velocity best of his career. Still got
Speaker 3: a good barrel rate, still a really good on bass.
Speaker 3: Guy doesn't chase lots of contact. He's a data darling
Speaker 3: if you're into the going through the fangrause stackcast page.
Speaker 3: Has always been a fan of his, and the other
Speaker 3: thing I was gonna mention that just totally slipped my mind.
Speaker 3: The other deal all the Cubs, right, the.
Speaker 1: Cubs, the cub the crazy.
Speaker 3: One we always talk about, you know, the Dodgers stockpiling
Speaker 3: starting pitching. I tweeted this out earlier on the Fantasy
Speaker 3: Pros account. These are the starting pitchers that the Cubs
Speaker 3: currently have on the roster, both healthy and injured. Matthew
Speaker 3: Boyd showed at Imanaga, David Peterson, Clay Holmes, Colin Ray,
Speaker 3: Kevin Gosman, Ben Brown, Edward Cabrera, Kate Horton, Justin Steele,
Speaker 3: Braxton Garrett, and Happy Erasade. They have like twelve viable
Speaker 3: starting pitchers, and now some of them are injured. A
Speaker 3: couple of these guys are probably gona leave a free agency.
Speaker 3: But I don't think I've ever seen a collection of
Speaker 3: like twelve guys who could legitimately be starting pitchers all
Speaker 3: on one major league roster at the same time.
Speaker 1: Also an interesting note, they essentially may have traded for
Speaker 1: more than half of their rotation moving forward. I forgot
Speaker 1: about that. Goss Men, Holmes, and Braxon Garrett, So that's
Speaker 1: kind of a that's a big one. The Giants made
Speaker 1: a big move. They acquired Helio Ramos, and they traded
Speaker 1: two big pieces. I think it's oh god, it's Kent.
Speaker 1: It's jeff Kin's son, Keaton Kent. I'm forgetting his first
Speaker 1: name now, but jeff Kin's son. And Henry Lallani was
Speaker 1: the big one. Yeah, Kayden Kent there, Kayden Kent and
Speaker 1: Henry Laalani, who's a big time prospect, Helio Ramos. This
Speaker 1: is going to be a beneficiary in New York. I
Speaker 1: don't even want to go. I mean, the only thing
Speaker 1: that could be bad is if there's like a rotational
Speaker 1: thing that the Yankees didn't have trading Spencer Jones or Dominguez.
Speaker 1: So it just feels like there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a log jam. But this is a good one. We'll
Speaker 1: come back to that. The Rays acquired Liam Hicks with
Speaker 1: from the Marlins, and Marlins ended up trading Braden Taylor,
Speaker 1: Adrian Santana, and Jacob Kissing. The Brewers acquired Dustin May
Speaker 1: and Jojo Romero. At the end, I do want to
Speaker 1: talk about the biggest disappointments and biggest winners for a second.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of Brewers fans are like, this
Speaker 1: is a disappointment. They also got Antonio Sinzitela to help
Speaker 1: in their bullpen. The big to do and this would
Speaker 1: be on my prospect pod. It was the Prospects that
Speaker 1: the Brewers gave up for Dustin May. Alexander Friaz specifically
Speaker 1: got people up in arms. The Astros acquired Dalton var
Speaker 1: Show from the Blue Jays Your Blue Jays. The Blue
Speaker 1: Jays then acquired they were super weird in the moves
Speaker 1: they were making, Josh Stephen and Josh Smith, and they
Speaker 1: traded Adam Maco and the Dodgers traded for Chris Bubitch.
Speaker 1: I think there's maybe a trader two that I've forgotten,
Speaker 1: and there Kirby Gates has mentioned. I forgot he was
Speaker 1: also traded to the Pirates. I think we got all
Speaker 1: of them?
Speaker 3: Are we go?
Speaker 1: I think all of them? So any quick notes on
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to go to questions on the
Speaker 1: You got Hicks to Tampa Bay, Hellio Ramos to New York.
Speaker 1: Dustin May is going to go into that Brewers rotation,
Speaker 1: var show. Any quick notes on any of those guys.
Speaker 3: Well, the Jays getting a controllable starter in Eric Gatty,
Speaker 3: who has showed own some upside in exchange for two
Speaker 3: months of Dalton var Show. I think is a really
Speaker 3: good piece of business. And I criticized the Blue Jays
Speaker 3: a lot, but I think they did well in that
Speaker 3: trade there. Jeff Hoffman also gone.
Speaker 1: Cannot Oh, yes, Jeff Hoffman thinks he cannot hurt me anymore.
Speaker 3: Thank you. He's gone finally, But I do think there's
Speaker 3: a chance that he ends up getting some saves in
Speaker 3: Minnesota out there now. Their current closer Gomez Joandris Gomez.
Speaker 3: I believe his first name is pronounced. He's been pretty
Speaker 3: good for them, but Hoffman definitely has more closer type stuff,
Speaker 3: so I would imagine that Hoffman is probably a decent
Speaker 3: pickup there. Elliott Ramos goes from the twenty sixth ranked
Speaker 3: park for right handed power to the second ranked park.
Speaker 3: So a guy who's already shown twenty plus home run upside,
Speaker 3: this could be a thirty home run bat next year
Speaker 3: if things go right for him. I think that's mostly
Speaker 3: it in terms of my thoughts on the big stuff. No,
Speaker 3: it's perfect.
Speaker 1: We don't need to go through We got questions from
Speaker 1: people that we'll talk about. That's I mean. And by
Speaker 1: the way, those are the trades from when we ended
Speaker 1: leading off until the deadline ended. That is not mentioning.
Speaker 1: You know, when we started the show the Joe Adell
Speaker 1: The Morning Trades, there were quite a few that was
Speaker 1: a lofty and heavy day of trades with a ton
Speaker 1: of fantasy impact. I've got four here and we'll review
Speaker 1: it at the very end, and we'll also kind of
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, who we thought were maybe the
Speaker 1: losers of the trade deadline. But let's go through some questions.
Speaker 1: So again, this is your chance for probably the next
Speaker 1: you know, five to ten minutes. Any questions that you've
Speaker 1: got based around these trade deadline guys, please put them
Speaker 1: in the big dance, says Luke Weaver or Grant Taylor
Speaker 1: rest of season. I've clearly stated it's Luke Waiver for me.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Taylor just because I think the path
Speaker 3: is a lot clearer to him getting saves. There's gonna
Speaker 3: be no question about him being the closer, Whereas I
Speaker 3: do have some questions with Waiver, So I'll take Grant
Speaker 3: Taylor there.
Speaker 1: John said, what's up?
Speaker 3: Well, what's up? John?
Speaker 1: I'm shocked the Rockies didn't trade any Well, they did.
Speaker 1: They traded Briton Doyle that was one that we that
Speaker 1: was covered in leading off. But to your point, they
Speaker 1: didn't do anything else. Hunter good That's that's a big one.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to talk about the big
Speaker 1: names that weren't traded, who were the big names that
Speaker 1: weren't traded? Hunter Goodman and Zach Netto were probably the
Speaker 1: two most prolific ones. I think there were smaller versions
Speaker 1: of like Sandy al Contra. I mean, Abrams has taken
Speaker 1: off the board, Joe Ryan had kind of been taken
Speaker 1: off the board, But like going into this, Netto and
Speaker 1: Goodman were the two big ones we thought could get traded.
Speaker 1: And not only did the Rockies not trade Goodman, they
Speaker 1: only traded Doyle. So that outfield, what is it? It's like McCarthy, Moniac,
Speaker 1: Carrig and who am I forgetting? I know, I'm forgetting.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm forgetting somebody. It is Beck, but
Speaker 1: he's hurt.
Speaker 3: I guess Marthy moniac and Carrig, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Troy Johnston is out there. And but the problem is
Speaker 1: is the they traded one less guy to make me
Speaker 1: feel comfortable that Charlie Condon could come up, so that
Speaker 1: one kind of you know that does kind of suck.
Speaker 1: So well, it's a good question. It is weird that
Speaker 1: they did it. Surprise Bieber wasn't moved. I could probably
Speaker 1: answer that what market somebody wanted?
Speaker 3: Nobody wanted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Savannah Bananas were calling maybe, but I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody else would have.
Speaker 3: Well, they already traded for Anthony Volpi today, so they
Speaker 3: were busy already.
Speaker 1: I saw that.
Speaker 3: I saw that.
Speaker 1: That was funny. This was in relation to the Marcela
Speaker 1: Mayer stuff that the Red Sox believe in Christian Campbell
Speaker 1: as their future second Baseman laughing, you know.
Speaker 2: You laugh, But he did really pick it up as of.
Speaker 1: Recent I think that's the one that like they didn't
Speaker 1: want to give up on Campbell and they want to
Speaker 1: try to develop. But again, just for them to trade
Speaker 1: that level, you know what, it feels like, it's not
Speaker 1: the same. It feels very much like when the Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: were like, we should trade Dansby Swanson for Shelby Miller,
Speaker 1: and that's what they did. It was different because the
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks weren't in a space where they were like giving up,
Speaker 1: like like it is here, but it's just like you
Speaker 1: guys couldn't develop anymore like Eric. It caught like the
Speaker 1: I will never not be shocked at the ice of
Speaker 1: what relief pitchers cost. It's insane to me. Like that
Speaker 1: rumor today. Did you see where it was the Yankees?
Speaker 1: Everyone refuted it and whatever, but that the Yankees offered
Speaker 1: Will Warren for Adrian Morion. I saw that, and then
Speaker 1: the Padres instantly rejected it. The market for controllable relief
Speaker 1: pitching is absolutely absurd, Padre. I can't if that's real.
Speaker 3: The Padres are kind of crazy for rejecting that.
Speaker 1: I think I agree, but I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, don't understand nothing. Not me.
Speaker 3: Aj Preller does what aj Preller wants. He's who can
Speaker 3: get inside of that, and nobody can get inside that.
Speaker 3: Nobody would want to.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've actually been around. I'm gonna record it next time,
Speaker 1: because you know, I go to the Padres facility like
Speaker 1: all the time, and I've seen it in definitely in
Speaker 1: spring training, but in some other spots when he's out
Speaker 1: there and he's just walking around the fields and it's
Speaker 1: like a trippy thing like those videos you see.
Speaker 2: He just does it.
Speaker 1: He just walks around the fields. I was there when
Speaker 1: Michael King was throwing in spring training and he was
Speaker 1: just watching him, and I was like, oh, like Michael King,
Speaker 1: better be careful and better watch out. The Big Dance
Speaker 1: also dialed in here Braves are going to head in
Speaker 1: October with Sale and Martine Perez Elder and Holmes, and
Speaker 1: I think they didn't they get somebody some low named pictures.
Speaker 3: They got Tyler Complete, they got Tyler Molly, They got Tyler.
Speaker 1: That's what it is, dude. Trades that happened on Sunday
Speaker 1: feel like they have. They happened like three months ago.
Speaker 3: Yes, especially with the the flurry of activity we've had.
Speaker 3: I mean there's probably a couple of things that have
Speaker 3: fallen through the cracks, just because it was like damn bam.
Speaker 3: We were trying, like behind the scenes. You should have
Speaker 3: seen us in the twenty minutes leading up to the show,
Speaker 3: just like, oh, we have a graphic for this, We've read,
Speaker 3: we've read, Oh this happened now, It's like it's madness.
Speaker 1: I was recording a football show and I was like,
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, like respond I had were our boy
Speaker 1: Ryan Wormley messaging me the the adlete trade and he
Speaker 1: met He's the one that broke the prospects to me
Speaker 1: and I'm like in the middle of football show, and
Speaker 1: I was like, is this for real? Like it's been
Speaker 1: three hours of Arico and I and by the way,
Speaker 1: not just us Callie and our boys Sal those two
Speaker 1: were working their butts off just getting cool graphics.
Speaker 3: And so that'll be fun. Absolutely when that show comes out.
Speaker 3: I think it's the Bold Prediction show that you were taping.
Speaker 3: It'll be fun for somebody to try and pick up
Speaker 3: when exactly you got that message, just to see if
Speaker 3: they could see your eyes. Possibly.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember. I was just like a little bit,
Speaker 1: but yeah, shout out to them. Make sure to put
Speaker 1: some love in the in the chat for those guys.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 1: Barry had said didn't have netto and debtmer staying with
Speaker 1: the Angels on my Bengo card. Yeah, why would you
Speaker 1: actively go and move Joe adell In Jose Soriano and
Speaker 1: then you don't make these move I mean I think
Speaker 1: it would. The telling piece would be the offers just
Speaker 1: simply weren't there, And they probably will entertain it in
Speaker 1: an off season whenever there's baseball again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think they tried to trade Deptmers to
Speaker 3: the Cubs because there was a lot of reporting that
Speaker 3: he was a CUB and it looked official, and then
Speaker 3: it was pulled back, So I think they had something there,
Speaker 3: But I think the Cubs just they already had twelve
Speaker 3: fricking starting pitchers, so they had no more room for
Speaker 3: anymore of them. The homes deal, I guess, was better,
Speaker 3: and I just I don't know. It seemed like he
Speaker 3: was a cub there for like an hour, but I'm
Speaker 3: surprised that something didn't materialize. I wish that Jay's got
Speaker 3: Deptors instead of Soriano, but I won't lead us down
Speaker 3: in that rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent only read this as sarcasm, so
Speaker 1: I'm going to assume that he's being sarcastic to me,
Speaker 1: but shout out and if not, you can tell me.
Speaker 1: But shout out to Van Rod, who doubled down and says,
Speaker 1: w the behind the scenes peeps. Absolutely, Van Rod's our cheerleader.
Speaker 1: But I only read things like this in absolute sarcasm,
Speaker 1: like yeah, it's a good story, Welsh like you hate me,
Speaker 1: so okay, thanks, Pete, love you. Am I smart to
Speaker 1: snag Zephyr Jan and Brasa band looking for saves. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's great. I think it's good and speculative.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be long term
Speaker 1: because I don't I just don't know if they're going
Speaker 1: to go to either one of those guys. But I
Speaker 1: think this is the speculative time. Why wouldn't you so
Speaker 1: if you had a lean, where would you go?
Speaker 3: M so Zephyr John is going to be compete Dana
Speaker 3: Polentsi is going to be back pretty soon.
Speaker 1: That's what I was. Yeah, I kind of a lose.
Speaker 3: And then bras a band. Did he get traded? He
Speaker 3: didn't get traded? Did he? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He got traded.
Speaker 3: Brase band get traded.
Speaker 1: Where I think was the U? Was that the Cubs?
Speaker 1: I think it was the Cubs.
Speaker 3: Did he go to the Cubs?
Speaker 1: I didn't mention him.
Speaker 3: No, he went to the he went to the White Sox.
Speaker 3: He went to the White Sox. Sorry, he went to
Speaker 3: the White Sox.
Speaker 1: I don't that's what it is. Oh, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: for Gabe Davis. I forgot about that trade. That was
Speaker 1: for Gabe Davis. So Zephyr Jam would be I think
Speaker 1: maybe the better speculative ad than Brasaman.
Speaker 3: I think I would agree there. When you said Gabe Davis,
Speaker 3: I went, like my brain thought, the football player. I
Speaker 3: don't know what's wrong with me.
Speaker 1: A lot's going on the wide receiver. YEA gave Davis
Speaker 1: starting pitcher for the White Socks.
Speaker 3: I think Zephyr Jhon probably has a better chance because Polentzia,
Speaker 3: there has been a lot of stuff going on with him.
Speaker 3: I just really think Grant Taylor is the guy for
Speaker 3: the White Sox. I don't think anybody's taking that job
Speaker 3: from Grant Taylor.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, So that's why I would go
Speaker 1: with Zephyr Jenn. All Right, we'll do a couple more here,
Speaker 1: Ben Joyce, Ben Joyce Worth Stashing. I've done a lot
Speaker 1: of speaking today and I'm suffering. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: a I mean he's a I think what did he
Speaker 1: just pitching like triple A recently? Like, I think that's
Speaker 1: a decent one down the line, I pick up a
Speaker 1: couple saves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you got to wonder how many saves
Speaker 3: the Angels are going to have and if he is
Speaker 3: actually the guy. Maybe he is, maybe he's not. And
Speaker 3: for a bad team like that, you're probably looking at
Speaker 3: just a handful of saves. If you're desperate, then I
Speaker 3: don't have a big problem with it, though.
Speaker 1: I like the job one the job if you're looking
Speaker 1: for starting pitching help, like, there's a couple open spots,
Speaker 1: a couple of yeah.
Speaker 3: And actually that's the perfect time. Actually we don't have
Speaker 3: to do it. But Jack Flaherty posted this hilarious like
Speaker 3: Fresh Prince of bel Air meme where he's just like, oh,
Speaker 3: we're standing in the everybody else everybody else is gone.
Speaker 3: It's funny because he was the one guy who got
Speaker 3: traded a couple of years ago and got himself a
Speaker 3: ring out of it and went back to Detroit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, peace out. Should I drop Antonaci in favor of Ramos? I?
Speaker 1: I don't love the idea, but I think I would.
Speaker 1: I'm very much about Ramos, I am. I. I guess
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit worried maybe it gets super platoony.
Speaker 1: Someone also asked the question, is Luis Garcia gonna sit?
Speaker 1: Kind of seems like he might that he's gonna be
Speaker 1: the strong side platoon guy and Go is going to
Speaker 1: be the short side platoon. I'm I kind of feel
Speaker 1: like they might try to get him more playing time.
Speaker 2: In there.
Speaker 1: I kind of want to feel that helly O Ramas
Speaker 1: is not going to be positioned where he's going to
Speaker 1: be in a super rotation. But you know the send
Speaker 1: down Spencer Jones. But when Stanton's healthy, it does make
Speaker 1: it complicated. All that being said, I think I really
Speaker 1: like hell Ramos in New York.
Speaker 3: Uh. Yeah, Ramos is going to be really good, but
Speaker 3: Antonacci has also been such a consistent force this year.
Speaker 3: I guess if it doesn't matter for position and the
Speaker 3: fact that Ramos is on the waiver wire, I mean
Speaker 3: it's probably a more of a shallow league. I think
Speaker 3: you can make that swap and see if it works out.
Speaker 3: Ramos is going to get a big boost in that lineup.
Speaker 3: But something else of note, The Yankees lineup has been
Speaker 3: really bad for a couple months now without Judge, so
Speaker 3: it's not as big of a lineup. It's just when
Speaker 3: we think of the Yankees, like they're not like a
Speaker 3: top three lineup right now, like they've been a bottom
Speaker 3: five lineup for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan are going to cover your question here in
Speaker 1: a second. We already kind of did. The last one
Speaker 1: I want to hit. This is interesting is Kate Anderson
Speaker 1: worth a pick up in ten team. He is, But
Speaker 1: but I know where you're going with this. Emerson Hancock
Speaker 1: not getting traded does make this a little bit wonky
Speaker 1: in that they've got their five pitchers. Now I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit worried this is going to feel way more
Speaker 1: piggy I mean, they did tell us it was gonna
Speaker 1: be piggyback, but we were dreaming it wouldn't be in
Speaker 1: a ten team. Yeah, let me retract that ten team.
Speaker 1: I don't think I am picking him up in a
Speaker 1: twelve team. I would speculate, But even in a twelve team,
Speaker 1: I am a little bit worried that Kate Anderson might
Speaker 1: be more like piggyback on Emerson Hancock. And if Hancock
Speaker 1: goes five and kid comes in, what is he getting
Speaker 1: to about? Some ratios and stuff? So the prospects of
Speaker 1: Kate Anderson look a little bit less exciting.
Speaker 3: Actually, I might retract that again. I might go in
Speaker 3: the opposite direction here, because I think Bryce Miller is
Speaker 3: somebody that we need to be a little bit worried about,
Speaker 3: and maybe not like full blow and worry at all.
Speaker 3: But the last few starts have been really bad for him.
Speaker 3: He started the year when he was pitching middle of
Speaker 3: May at ninety seven miles an hour. His most recent
Speaker 3: start was ninety five to seven. Over his last four starts,
Speaker 3: Bryce Miller has a five forty eight ERA, He has
Speaker 3: a thing is freezing, a twelve percent strikeout rate. He
Speaker 3: has a one to fifty five WHIP. They might piggyback
Speaker 3: Bryce Miller, and if they do that, Ben Anderson might
Speaker 3: be viblent.
Speaker 1: Maybe, but it still feels like the exact same thing
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's got a two ADRA and he's got a lower
Speaker 1: expected ERA with a twenty six percent k percentage on
Speaker 1: the year. It's been bad lately, But my problem is
Speaker 1: is the same thing. I don't care who they piggyback.
Speaker 1: If they're piggybacking, I don't feel good about that. If
Speaker 1: they piggyback with Bryce Miller and Bryce starts, if he
Speaker 1: goes four and Kid could come in and steal a
Speaker 1: win away, that's good. But if Bryce goes five and
Speaker 1: they pull him and Kid comes in, unless Kate is
Speaker 1: going the whole way through, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: love that. So ten team, I just think it's more
Speaker 1: dicey than anything. Twelve team I understand the struggle and
Speaker 1: the push, so it's fair, all right. So the last
Speaker 1: thing these are mine. You tell me my big four
Speaker 1: winners for this trade deadline, and I might just not
Speaker 1: be thinking it through and there might be some more.
Speaker 1: But my biggest like fantasy winners is Casey Mei is
Speaker 1: going to San Diego. Luke Weaver's probably number one, actually Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be the closer. Joshua Baiaz
Speaker 1: because of the large neup Bar trade, and I think
Speaker 1: Helly O Ramos in New York. I know that's kind
Speaker 1: of a weird. Usually you do like your top five.
Speaker 1: I could probably I stare at this thing here. I
Speaker 1: can maybe say Robbie Ray would be the other one
Speaker 1: of this list. If I'm going through Foster Griffin, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'll say Foster Griffin he has an opportunity to
Speaker 1: kind of maintain his goodness. What is your top five
Speaker 1: or what changes out of that top five beneficiaries?
Speaker 3: So I would say Casey Myz is definitely right up there.
Speaker 3: Adley Ruchman getting out of one dysfunctional organization and going
Speaker 3: to another one. It feels like a win, but it
Speaker 3: might be a little more neutral good ballpark upgrade, though
Speaker 3: Pdter Norby is kind of a low key one who
Speaker 3: might end up being a little bit interesting. I know
Speaker 3: it's been struggle busts for him, but going to Colorado
Speaker 3: is always something that's kind of interesting for hitters. And
Speaker 3: then on the other side, Victor Vadnik is a pitcher
Speaker 3: that I've liked going back three years. Actually the guy
Speaker 3: who put me onto him was Jesse Severe, our good
Speaker 3: friend Jesse Severe. There's been some struggles in Colorado, but
Speaker 3: the skills are there for Victor Vadnick to eventually, I
Speaker 3: think be a closer. I don't think it'll be this year.
Speaker 3: I mean, Pete Fairbanks has struggled a lot, so maybe
Speaker 3: they do give him a chance. But I think that,
Speaker 3: like looking ahead to next season, Victor Vadnik being out
Speaker 3: of Colorado feels like a huge victory, like as a
Speaker 3: cheap closer option that you can draft next year, something
Speaker 3: that I'd really be interested in. And that's kind of it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm still kind of processing everything that happened.
Speaker 3: Antonio Senzetela not so much for fantasy, but a really
Speaker 3: good middle reliever pick up there for Milwaukee, and I
Speaker 3: think as much as I've bagged on him. Jeff Hoffman
Speaker 3: probably will be the closer in Minnesota if you need
Speaker 3: a closer and you've missed out on the tailors and
Speaker 3: the weavers. I know that on the surface things have
Speaker 3: been bad for Hoffman, but the strikeout to walk rates
Speaker 3: have been excellent. He's got a sub three FIP. It
Speaker 3: really was the early season struggles that have loan up
Speaker 3: the entirety of Hoffman's line. But it's a two forty
Speaker 3: nine FIP here, it's a twenty six percent strikeout minus walk. Great.
Speaker 3: I think he will end up getting States for Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I will say if I put Adley in there too.
Speaker 1: I just think that Boston lineup is just hot hot.
Speaker 1: He's going to just be injected right into the middle
Speaker 1: of it. And whether he's hitting, you know, right in
Speaker 1: front of like William and Sedanna, like I just I
Speaker 1: like that spot winners and losers.
Speaker 2: Let's focus on the losers here for a second. What's
Speaker 2: the if you could pick.
Speaker 1: One team that you are disappointed or really surprised that
Speaker 1: didn't make the moves that should have been expected. What's
Speaker 1: the one team you would pick on. I think there's
Speaker 1: a couple of candidates. I think the Brewers are a candidate.
Speaker 1: I think the Braves are a candidate for that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. The Yankees maybe to a smaller degree, kind
Speaker 1: of seem like they could have done more and they didn't. Really,
Speaker 1: who do you got?
Speaker 3: It's got to be the Brewers. I think it has
Speaker 3: to be the Brewers's. It was a shameful, shameful deadline
Speaker 3: for them. Zenzetella was a good pickup Jojo Romero's kind
Speaker 3: of whatever. Dustin May I think is actually pretty good.
Speaker 3: And if you look from outside of his first two
Speaker 3: starts for the year, he's got like a mid three
Speaker 3: z era. He's been pretty serviceable. The fact that you
Speaker 3: didn't even try to get Scoobale, Like, why wouldn't you
Speaker 3: at least make a go for it, You know, you
Speaker 3: don't have to trade made necessarily, might not have even
Speaker 3: had to trade Laura. You traded legitimate prospects to get
Speaker 3: Dustin May, who two deadlines in a row is traded
Speaker 3: for like legitimate prospects, And maybe it ends up working
Speaker 3: out for them, but I don't think it will in
Speaker 3: the long run, just given the entire history of Dustin May,
Speaker 3: like we've seen good stretches. We've seen bad stretches, We've
Speaker 3: seen unusable stretches from him, and they gave away two
Speaker 3: legitimate prospects. That was probably the most angry I saw
Speaker 3: Twitter today about Alexander Fries and let's see, is it Ferguson?
Speaker 1: Yeah? J just siyah raq.
Speaker 3: I don't know where I got Ferguson from. These are
Speaker 3: both legitimate hitters. Ragsdale is a one sixty one WRC
Speaker 3: plus this year across all levels of the miners, nineteen homers,
Speaker 3: thirty one stolen bases, hitting three sixteen Well free.
Speaker 1: Us is the next guy that moved off a complex
Speaker 1: into a ball super young like people want to do
Speaker 1: the Painia made comps.
Speaker 2: It's not that big, but it was a huge give
Speaker 2: for those guys.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm gonna agree with you. If
Speaker 1: I want to be a little parody, I could say
Speaker 1: the Braves, but I think the Brewers were massively disappointing.
Speaker 1: They should have gotten more rotation help. I think the
Speaker 1: Braves had an opportunity as well. I just think those
Speaker 1: two teams were locked into everything. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if the Phillies one hundred percent of did what
Speaker 1: they needed to do in what Bryce was asking. But
Speaker 1: they did get one big piece that kind of helped
Speaker 1: move around. But I think they were looking at trying
Speaker 1: to get some starting pitching help. But it's hard for
Speaker 1: me to not look at the Brewers and just be like,
Speaker 1: what were we doing? Like everybody else made the move,
Speaker 1: The Cubs made all the moves right around you, and
Speaker 1: they kind of depleted their systems some in the Brewers
Speaker 1: just bagg of riches they kept in and they just
Speaker 1: feel that they can go down the stretch with the
Speaker 1: pitchers that they had. I just don't love it. I mean,
Speaker 1: if they went at all, great, you know, record and everything,
Speaker 1: but I just don't feel like this is sustainable for them.
Speaker 3: No, I would blame owners of the teams like the
Speaker 3: Brewers a lot more than I would of the owners
Speaker 3: of the Dodgers for what's going to happen next year.
Speaker 1: Well, you guys can drop your comments below on the
Speaker 1: YouTube side after this is all done for whatever. You guys,
Speaker 1: who are your winners? Who were the guys you hated?
Speaker 1: Who are the trades you love to make? Like I said,
Speaker 1: I got my four that I thought were really big beneficiaries.
Speaker 1: But you guys can drop your comments below. Also, we
Speaker 1: will not be on leaning off on Tuesday, but we'll
Speaker 1: be back on Wednesday, where I will be there and
Speaker 1: I think I'm with Bubba. I'm not sure if it's
Speaker 1: Bubba or Bogman, but I will be back on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Do you look like you know?
Speaker 3: I am off on Wednesday because I'm going to go
Speaker 3: see the food Fighters, so Wednesday, so.
Speaker 1: You just know it's not yet it'll be that's all
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: I know it would know it will be Bubba. It'll
Speaker 3: be Bubba. I will be singing along to ever Long
Speaker 3: and all the other songs, and you guys will be
Speaker 3: talking baseball.
Speaker 1: We'll do it, Okay, Yeah, Bubba the Bogman's in the chat,
Speaker 1: so he said it's Bubba, so official, So me and
Speaker 1: Bubba on Wednesday. Make sure you guys are subscribed to
Speaker 1: the YouTube channel. We've got a trade video that's to
Speaker 1: be coming out this also on the audio as well,
Speaker 1: giving you this little extra aside. But come and hang
Speaker 1: with us and maybe we'll see some prospect stuff that changes.
Speaker 1: If you want more prospect stuff, check out my show
Speaker 1: Prospect One. I'm going to be talking about all the
Speaker 1: prospects that we're traded, specifically talking them on that show,
Speaker 1: and I'm also going to be doing some stuff with
Speaker 1: Bogman talking more about the trade deadline. So that is it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for hanging out with us for
Speaker 1: this little trade deadline special. Thank you to Calli and
Speaker 1: Sal doing the ones and twos and doing all the
Speaker 1: craziness in the background. Thank you guys so much for
Speaker 1: hanging out with us. Enjoy the rest of your day.
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