WEBVTT - 2026 MLB Trade Deadline Recap & Analysis (Ep. 1358) 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:08.960 What's a Friends, are welcome into Fantasy Pros m LB. 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:13.280 This is the MLB Trade Deadline Breakdown Show. I am 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:17.480 Chris Welsh. That is Joe Rico, and we just went 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:21.880 through the gauntlet of MLB trade deadline little behind the scenes. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.759 I was not to this matters, but I wanted to 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.360 do this. I scheduled this together. I was like, we 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.280 gotta do a trade deadline thing, not something we usually 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:32.120 do here on Fantasy Pros. And I'm talking with Rico, 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.760 and Rico's like, you know, we're gonna talk a lot 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.880 about the trades, Like do you think there's gonna be enough? 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:40.440 And I was like, I don't know, Joe. I'm like 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:41.520 that's a good point, Like. 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:45.520 We'll have to see. Hey, Rico, was that enough trades 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.080 for you? From leading off until this in a five 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.360 hour span? My god, what's up, buddy? 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.159 The baseball gods laughed in my face today, as they 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.000 usually do. The baseball gods more than any other sport 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.080 gods laugh at the different fan bases, and today they did. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:03.400 For sure. It was like thirty semidd trades. I want 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:04.920 to stay at the top of my head. Between the 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.280 time we stopped recording, I saw you like, what two 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:11.600 hours ago, it's already this chaos. But I think, honestly 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:15.160 thinking about it, it might be the most exciting deadline 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:16.440 in recent memory. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.559 Yeah, And what's really interesting about it is like it's 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:22.800 tough because we had the I'm going to talk about 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.120 it in just one second and we're gonna get to 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.360 your questions. But you have the Scooball trade that happened 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:28.959 over the weekend that was kind of the big one, 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.280 but it never really let you know, it never stopped. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.640 Like obviously, I don't think we got like the groundbreaking 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:39.200 blockbuster trade of insanity or anything like that, you know 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.360 what I mean, Like, we didn't have Like it doesn't 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.080 look like we are three minutes. I mean we literally 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.959 started this up as as well. I guess six Eastern 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:51.200 hit three o'clock my time, as everything stopped, we hit records. 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.520 We might get a couple of late stragglers, but for 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.280 the most part, we did not see a zach netto go. 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.600 I'm seeing one Klly is putting in that might have 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.320 just got and through right at the deadline. I'm not 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.600 one hundred percent sure. And that's actually funny enough. He's 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.920 the guy that's like the graphic of our thing of 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.600 Casey Mines. We have to confirm it, but like we 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:13.519 didn't see like the block blockbusters, but we saw volume. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.920 We saw teams get in it, and I gotta be 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.160 honest with you, we saw some. 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:19.920 Big prospect trades as well. 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.520 I'm gonna give a cheap plug. I am going to 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.160 be doing a full breakdown on my Prospect one podcast 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.359 focusing on all of the prospects that were traded and guys, 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.360 there were some big prospects that are lowered, you know, 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:37.639 its names to people, Alexander Frios, Henry Lalani, like, there 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.519 were some big ones that got traded. But this is 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.920 going to be a hyper focus on the major league 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.440 trades here and that the pure volume. I mean, if 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.920 someone could pull it, if someone could pull like in 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:50.160 a twenty four hour span from when the trade deadline 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.480 ends before that, this has to be on sheer volume, 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.080 one of the heaviest trade deadline days for sure. 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.799 I think so. And it is confirmed Kelly was Casey 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:02.560 Maiz is a member of the Padres. 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.160 That's a brutal one too, because the Diamondbacks were We're 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:07.840 looking at him, all right, So that's gonna be near 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.600 the top. We got our boy Thunderstud that's in here. 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:14.240 We'll like like other random fantasy questions too. But I'm 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.000 gonna be uh, we're gonna kind of break through what 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.440 all the trades were, and I'm gonna leave some space 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.120 if you guys have questions, if you guys whatever it is, 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.640 like to keep it specifically trade deadline, like the Big Dance, 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.400 just put a great one in that's gonna be one 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.720 of the top ones. So Thunderstud, hold tight here, You're 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.560 gonna be the first up because you did a super 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.920 chat and then the Big Dance. That's the exact type 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:36.880 of stuff I'm talking about. So I'd love to get 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:41.160 very trade deadline specific things, whether it's buying into players, 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.080 new situations, whatever it is. So we're gonna leave some 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.400 space to answer some questions. Maybe you need to vent. 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.640 I know some Brewers fans are pretty upset, and I 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.400 think there's you know, some people out there that aren't 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.400 loving all of those and some players that didn't get traded. 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:58.200 So definitely put those questions in. Our boy sal behind 0:03:58.240 --> 0:03:59.920 the scenes will be highlighting some of those and we'll 0:03:59.920 --> 0:04:02.160 ge have some space for it as we're going to 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.000 get into this. Want to remind you guys before we 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:08.160 start up that you guys can catch leading off right 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:09.960 here on this hat, which we both have, both of 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.360 our hats. We have different hats. By the way, you've 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:13.720 got more of the like, I don't know what you 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.120 call it. Mine's embroidered. It's very embroidered. It's very nice. 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.080 We've got the new merch there. But you can catch 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.520 Leading Off live on Twitch. It's now Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:23.800 and then it comes over to YouTube just a couple 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.800 hours or an hour or so after, so make sure 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.000 to check that out Twitch dot Tv, Slash Fantasy Pros. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.719 I will be on the Wednesday show. If we have 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.080 any other like further reactions, I think we'll have had 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.839 the schooble start that's happened in there, so make sure 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.240 you're hanging out with us. So the thing I want 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.040 to start with real quick, because this happened over the weekend. 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.200 We already talked about this on today's Leading Off, so 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:44.560 there's nothing to break down with it. But I thought 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.880 this was really interesting kind of setting the stage to 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.680 see for how many of you are hanging out with us, 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.080 what questions come in when we break down the trades, but. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.120 If we could pull this up. This was Trek Scuble. 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.000 Talking today and I thought this was really interesting because 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:01.080 he is scheduled, I believe to pitch tomorrow quickly on Tuesday, 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.880 and there's a lot of controversy around the trade. We 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.400 talked about it in that like you really we neither 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.360 one of us really blamed the Dodgers, by the way, 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.240 because like a lot of teams had the ability to 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.120 do it. It just looks for bad for baseball. Well, Trek 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.440 Scuble decided to weigh in after being traded to the Dodgers, 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:18.440 and he said, quote, every team could trade for me. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.760 I don't sympathize with people that blame the Dodgers for 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.040 anything they've done. It's a winning org. I really don't 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.240 sympathize it. Sympathize with people that are complaining because the 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:30.080 Dodgers do all the right things. Quite the quote from 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.599 Terrek Scouble defending his new team here, that was Yahoo Sports. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.360 I think had put that out and that's their graphic 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.039 as far as the tweet goes. But I just wanted 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.760 to get your quick take on seeing Trek Scouoble kind 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.800 of come to that early defense. And since we're not 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.440 gonna fully get into all this business talking about him here, 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.680 any last thoughts before we start talking about. 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.039 These didn't take long for the mask to come off, 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.440 missus Schooble. You've been a Dodger for all of five 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.960 minutes and you're already embracing the culture. But I said 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.000 it on leading off earlier, I'll say it again. I 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.440 can't really blame the Dodge. The rules are allowing them 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.440 to do what they're doing. Why wouldn't they Why wouldn't 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.400 they take advantage of all the other owners sitting on 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.360 their hands and doing absolutely nothing. You got the Brewers 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:13.960 setting legitimate package after Dustin May and not trying to 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.359 go get Trek Scoogle, So why wouldn't the Dodgers do this? 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:18.200 Hard to blame them at this point. 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:20.800 Yeah, and we're gonna get to see him right out 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.680 the gates. And by the way, I saw that you 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.560 reference to tweet or some people some chatter in the internet. 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.279 I saw it after we got them with the show 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.680 of someone being like so based off of Baseball America, 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.400 they're saying that the Angels got a better return, and 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.159 it was like, well, dude, that's what we're talking about. 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:40.480 I don't agree with the ranking, and I don't care 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.760 what the ranking says. But also there's a side thing. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:47.000 Two years of control versus two months of control is different, 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.640 Like you do have to consider the amount of control 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.800 you have on a player that equals the return. That's 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.039 why Schooble was so complicated. He's one of the best 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.279 players in all of baseball, but it is a two 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.840 month rental. And on top of everything that Scooba wanted 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:02.360 to play with the Dodgers and was going to come 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.359 back after how likely did any team really feel that 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.320 they were going to be competitive in re signing when 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.240 the CBA comes in. So it's like, I actually kind 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:11.800 of don't blame a lot of the teams. But then 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.520 that gets back into a weird scenario of like, you know, 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.600 competitive sides of baseball and stuff. As they they gave 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:20.000 up Zay or Hope, which I said, I think from 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.600 a fantasy perspective, Hope Overnamala. 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.520 Like hands down, and they got River Ryan. 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.320 But I understand, you know, all. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.720 Of the chaos sits with it, but he is already. 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.000 In the streets defending those Dodgers. Man. 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.120 Yeah, I don't know the JJ Cooper thing is interesting, 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:35.960 and I'm not sure how much stock I want to 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:37.800 put into it, given that we are a fantasy show 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:39.800 and it's probably more of a real life take based 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:41.960 on the fact that he's a shortstop, et cetera, et cetera. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.240 But it also just feeds into me being a self 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.960 loathing Blue Jays fan, So I will take every opportunity 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:50.640 that I can to poop poove my franchise. But the Jays, 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.040 we'll talk about it that Jay's made a couple of 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.320 decent moves today. It was it was a crazy deadline Wels, 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:56.880 So I'm still trying to process it all. There's still 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.200 so much going through my head right now. 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.000 It was it was so oh so crazy. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.240 It really really was. And we're going to kind of 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:07.560 go through some of these trades and I'll tie in Thunderstuds. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:09.880 So what I'm gonna do is I'm going to go 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.360 in little buckets of the trade deadline, because, like I said, 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.320 I want to leave some breathing room for some trades, 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.320 and specifically if you guys have trades centered around some 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.400 of the guys we talk about. But let's kind of 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.960 so again, there were some trades that happened earlier this 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.880 morning that we're not necessarily talking about. This is essentially 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:28.080 trades that happened after leading off, So a five hour 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.480 span of like I swear to god, like thirty plus trades, 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.960 a gajillion players traded. So Scoogle can come off because 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.440 we've talked enough about him, and let's start up with 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.560 what is probably the biggest blockbuster of the day, Adlei Rutchman. 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.760 Ali Rutchman was traded to the Boston Red Sox. And 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.800 what was a pretty big trade because there were a 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.320 multitude of huge prospects. I told you we're not going 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.560 to talk a ton about prospects here, but that is 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:57.319 the key here. The Orioles acquired five players, three prospects, 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.200 all three high end guys in the top five if 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.240 you care about what Baseball America or like MLB pipeline 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.640 has to say, probably Baseball America two in that respect. 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:10.320 They got Carlos Navarez and a player to be named later, 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.240 all for Atlei Richman, who has an extra year of eligibility. 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:17.319 The prospects involved was the big deal. Anthony Einsen and 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.920 Kyson Witherspoon are two high high end pitchers. Now, there 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:22.640 was an interesting thing. I don't even know if we 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.400 pulled anything from it, but I highly suggest going to 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:29.280 listen to it. Lance Brasdowski was on foul Territory and 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:30.959 he had this kind of I think he might have 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:32.680 thought it was a throwaway common at the end, but 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.559 it ends up being what foul Territory clipped where he said, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.280 you know, he goes through. He was shocked about the 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.560 trade and said he ended up speaking he had one 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.920 what was it, one GM or one person in baseball 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.520 that said the Orioles got fleeced because they took on 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.560 a bunch of broken pieces, essentially saying maybe they were 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.320 just talking about Witherspoon because Witherspoon's been kind of broken, 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.560 but really tearing apart this trade. But I think every 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.840 other human being besides that guy looks and goes wow, 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.920 that is a huge trade for Adley Ruchman, who does 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.319 have an extra year of control. He goes in to 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.960 Boston gets he's going to be their catcher. He's part 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:07.800 of that offense. I guess I will just stop on 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.880 this one for a second. This was a huge, a 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.400 huge overall trade, but the fantasy impact for this season 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.480 is solely around what Adley Ruchmand can do in Boston. 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.480 This kind of feels like this could be a plus. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.520 Joe, Yeah, I think the Red Sox probably did pretty 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.760 well here. And as you guys know, I'm not the 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.800 biggest prospect guy, but it seems like a heck of 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:29.960 a return. But you have to pay up to acquire 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.120 game changing type of players, and that's where people will 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.400 probably shut off the stream and say it's Adley Rutchman. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.720 He hasn't done anything, and that seems to be the 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.079 prevailing sentiment that Adley Rutchman has been a bust and 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:40.600 he's not lived up to the hype, and he's not 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.920 very good and he's injury prone. Since Adley Rudchmand debuted 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.079 in twenty twenty two, there are only two catchers who 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.040 have a higher fangrafs wins by replacement. It's Cal Rawley 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.640 and it's William Contreras. I think Adli Rutchman is really 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.560 good and this is a position of need for the 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.480 Red Sox. Maybe they overpaid slightly, but locking in a 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.200 catcher who is still just twenty eight years old, who 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.360 is going to be your backstop for the next probably 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.720 six seven years, most likely, you have to assume that 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.319 there will be some talks of extension, but it is 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.360 a weird trade. I will say this, like trading your 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:15.240 franchise one of your franchise cornerstones within the division is 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.559 not something you see very often. The Orioles progression over 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.040 the last couple of years of like, you know, we 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.719 have this upcoming group of prospects, and they're going to 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.600 change our team and change the organization, and it's been 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.360 so disappointing. It's really they have not lived up to 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:30.640 the hype even a little bit. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.760 Thunderstood. Getting to his question again, I'm gonna leave more 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.560 time for it, but might intertwine them. He had said, 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.800 I've got a rule of no socks players. So the 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:44.480 Retchmen trades killing him Alvarez or Stevenson as a replacement. 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.800 By the way, Stevenson was pretty heavily Another aside here, 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.120 I just realized the Reds were this team that we're 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.760 gonna sell off all these pieces, and they just traded 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.040 what low that was it. They we're gonna trade off 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.040 Hunter Green and they were gonna trade off Tyler Stevenson. 0:11:58.080 --> 0:11:59.280 And there were a ton of rumors about it, and 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.760 they didn't do much of it. Anything but I mean 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:05.080 I would not, by the way, follow this rule th understood. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.320 I would stick with Retchmond over these guys. But if 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:08.400 you had to pick one, who would you. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:12.120 Go with, I mean it's ro it would be Richmond, 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.240 but I would say Alvarez if you get that hard line. 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.719 I like what Alvarez has done this year. Another guy 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.640 that feels like because he's missed some time, he doesn't 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.520 get the dew he's probably deserved. But I take Alvarez, 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:22.760 and I say that as a guy who's been a 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.720 pro Stevenson guy for years. But I'm kind of over 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.360 it and can over it at this point. 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.000 Yeah, I would probably also do the same. So the 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.120 Adlai Richmond trade kind of a big deal. I think 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.240 that's a big plus in fantasy. They also made another 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.800 big trade. This was shocking to me because my first 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.719 reaction was like, they didn't do anything with this. They 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.320 traded Marcelo Mayer, And there was a time we thought 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.360 Marcelo Mayer was going to potentially be a piece that 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:45.959 could you know, be a part of like a Zach 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.120 neetto trade or maybe even with the Diamondbacks, and they 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.800 traded him for Eric Miller. I mean Eric Miller's a 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.720 solid lefty reliever, and I think they did maybe want 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.560 a little bit that more in the bullpen, So I 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.400 think maybe from like a complete baseball perspective, but like, 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.080 how do we not look at this as being like 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:07.320 you just did not give the runway for a guy 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.920 to mature and become a full time player. 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.000 This is the type of trade that reeks the. 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.560 Criticism of Breslo and their team where they do not 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.240 know how to properly wait and or develop some of 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.920 their players. And this I don't know if San Francisco 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.160 is the best environment, but you just could feel it 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.120 like he goes over there, he's going to be a 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:27.680 worthwhile player. I don't know if it'd be like this 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.719 big fantasy guy or anything like that, but he goes 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.160 out and hits like two seventy and is like at 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.200 least in the high teens of homers. Like maybe he's 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.120 a better real life player than not. But this one 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:39.400 had my head scratching. 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.360 Dude, I don't I don't really get it, and I was, 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:46.360 you know, I praise the Red Sox for the Retchmen deal, 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.840 and then in the next breath, I'll criticize them for 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.480 this one because I don't know what you're doing trading 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.600 a guy in Marcello Mayer, who granted has struggled to 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.920 this point, but we're talking three hundred and sixty four 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:01.880 played appearances. We're talking about just over a half season 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.800 worth of plate appearances, and you're giving up on him 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.320 for a guy in Miller who's a pretty serviceable reliever, 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.120 but also with his wartz as well. We're talking about 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.480 a guy who has a fifteen percent walk rate, a 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.599 one forty whip. I mean, just a year ago he 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.400 had a seventeen percent strikeout rate. I know it was 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.840 only a thirty inning season for him last year, but 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.880 there are definitely some head scratching elements to this trade. 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.560 Paul Sport says something a lot, and it's been drilled 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.320 into my head that you can't really judge a player 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.520 until they have a thousand plate appearances in the big leagues, 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.200 and Jordan Walker is the huge example of that this year. 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.880 Every now and then, you can make a judgment before that, 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.760 but until you get to at least like two full seasons, 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.440 you don't really know what you have. And they're trading 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.040 Mayor without really knowing what he is. He's a guy 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.720 who could develop into a really good defensive player, probably 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.600 not at short but second or third. I could really 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.320 see it, and you've just abandoned the bat And what 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:58.600 is he twenty three? Twenty three, maybe twenty four years old. 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:00.640 It's a head scratching for sure. 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.000 Yeah, I didn't understand it. Whatsoeverything is a great move 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.440 by the Giants, and you know, future team building. They've 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.880 got all these guys that like have these ridiculous contracts, 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.200 and it's like you could build around Marcela Mayer, especially 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.960 if you can fix them. Hopefully they can. I thought 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.480 this was a this is a great real life baseball move, 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.520 but you know that doesn't necessarily you know, turn the 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.400 dial a bunch. I do want to talk about this. 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.760 I don't think we had a graphic because it literally 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.320 happened as soon as we started up. But I want 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:29.920 to talk about the Ksey Mice thing for a second, 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.360 so we can go back to two box unless we 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.640 did have a graphic. But the Casey Mize trade to 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.680 San Diego is pretty shocking. Their's in the Diamondbacks. We're 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:44.080 trying like crazy to go and get Casey Mice. He 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.520 was a good rental starting pitcher and This kind of 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.640 just said that this team is gonna they're gonna make 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.120 a run for it, like they want to be competitive. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.040 What was the other move that they made. Didn't they 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.520 make another move that am? I like just forgetting about it. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.280 Oh yeah, they got a Robbie so we can jump in. 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:03.920 You're welcome to throwing Robbie Ray as well. Since we're 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.000 just talking about the Padres for a second, they acquired 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:08.920 Robby Ray, which, by the way, I'm just gonna throw out. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.160 Joniel Hernandez is actually kind of a dude. This might 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.080 be one of those trades long term. We go back 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.000 and look and we're like, wow, the Padres gave up 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:17.720 a dude, so this is actually a good return for 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.400 the Giants. Miguel Mendez is also kind of interesting. But 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.720 Robbie Ray goes from a really good pitching environment too, 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.640 a really good pitching environment, and they were able to, 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:29.960 you know, bring in two starting pitchers to fill out 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:34.000 that rotation. I'm actually thoroughly impressed that the Padres Casey Maiz, 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.560 Robbie Ray, that's paired with what Michael King or yeah, 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.960 Michael King one of the best bullpen pieces out there, 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.680 an incredible bullpen overall, there was a Morione rumor that 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:47.120 was floating out there. Talk to me about Fantasy repercussions 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.960 and thoughts on Robbie Ray and Casey miz both going 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:55.160 This was the biggest starting pitching acquisition of impact of 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.360 any team was the Padres, and they became aggressive buyers. 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.240 Yeah, so I'll start with Casey Miz. He's somebody that 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.639 I've really come into loving this year. I did a 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:07.440 show of there across a couple of weeks ago, going 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.359 through stat Cast leader boards, and Casey Mees was up 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.600 there on a couple different ones, but I think the 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:14.760 main one that we discussed him on was the ex 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.440 wOBA allowed and he was one of the top ten 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.199 or top fifteen pitchers in terms of the opposing x wOBA. 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:22.440 He has a sub one whip, he has a sub 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.840 three ERA, all the supporting metrics are in that two 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.160 and a half to three type of range, really good command, 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.720 He's up the strikeouts this year. This is a legitimate 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.320 starting pitcher, Casey mice is. 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:35.960 So I'm not just I just want to throw out. 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.040 I had not seen the return, and my reaction with 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.440 if anyone just saw that was just seeing the return 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:45.880 Casey Meies, by the way, is an undersearch a free 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.200 agent after this year. This is a rental. Yeah, they 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.040 gave up cash Mayfield. Cash Mayfield was the top prospect 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.679 in their system. Looks like, you know, maybe he's not 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.840 like a high high high end like elite fantasy ace. 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:03.640 I am shocked they gave up cash Mayfield for a rental. 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.199 But then I'm also not shocked because it's Preller And 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.479 now I see why the Diamondbacks could not get Casey 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:13.000 Mice because holy crap, that's a huge return. Casey miz 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.400 is the type of guy that you would have used 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.280 if you were trying to go get like a Zach Nedo. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:18.960 I mean we were talking like again, like he's not 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.119 like a top twenty five overall prospect or anything like that, 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:22.640 but that's like in the line of like a top 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.919