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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio podcast. Hello, my little Peanuts, It's me your host,

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Speaker 1: Lance Bass. This is Frosted Tips with me Lance Bass

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Speaker 1: and my beautiful co host husband, Extraordinary Turkey Turchin.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that was a great interest.

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Speaker 1: Better at your intro.

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Speaker 2: Hung It was really good and very accurate.

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Speaker 1: If it sounds like I smoked a whole pack of cigarettes,

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Speaker 1: that's not the case. We get one warm day in

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Speaker 1: LA and my snus is crazy, so me too. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna know.

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Speaker 2: You said I'm here to hear this during the show,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, we're not dying.

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Speaker 1: Just this weather's been nuts. I mean, I'm I don't

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Speaker 1: need to complain because I personally like a little chili

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Speaker 1: weather with you know, sun. But usually at this point

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Speaker 1: it's one hundred and ten degrees. Yeah, and it's like

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Speaker 1: sixty degrees.

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Speaker 2: It's still cold and night. What is going on?

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Speaker 1: It's nice, but then yeah, when it warms up just

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Speaker 1: the underside, I don't know, it just really gets to

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Speaker 1: me and I and it's only been the last few

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Speaker 1: years it's been doing this. I've lived in California twenty

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Speaker 1: years now, off and on, but I've never had this

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Speaker 1: problem until the last three or four years.

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Speaker 2: I think it's all the cod that's all the UFO

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Speaker 2: sidings I've been happening lately.

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Speaker 1: We do need to do a show about the UFO sidings.

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Speaker 2: Because it's getting more and more every day, there's a

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Speaker 2: new we're talking about it.

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Speaker 1: If it's so proven, now, why isn't this the lead stories.

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Speaker 2: I've really because I get all many some TikTok and

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Speaker 2: it's obviously all correct, but they're saying this. There's been

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Speaker 2: there's a big heavy like government puts back on releasing

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Speaker 2: anything stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I thought the government was releasing things.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they were just releasing some things to

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Speaker 2: appease people. But I don't still don't think they're releasing everything.

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Speaker 1: Well, and do think it's because if they released the

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Speaker 1: truth and it's kind of like overwhelming, that people would

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Speaker 1: freak out.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's part of it.

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Speaker 1: And I also think I think the I think people

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Speaker 1: would actually come more together and be like, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would just hope that the world would

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Speaker 1: come together and be like if they were peaceful, obviously

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Speaker 1: of course, but you know, I would think we finally

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Speaker 1: look at each other like, wow, we're really in this together,

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Speaker 1: and we need to all kind of you know, protect

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Speaker 1: this little blue dot. You would like that, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But you know the world is burning down as we speak,

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Speaker 2: and what's happening. We're not getting together, you know.

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Speaker 1: Our old show. I loved a conspiracy Thursday, but this

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Speaker 1: one kind of seems like the conspiracy is being broken.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see again. It should be if this was true,

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Speaker 1: if there's really, really, really, really really proof of alien existence,

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Speaker 1: it would be the top story on every news from

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Speaker 1: no it's.

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Speaker 2: All it's all working together. It is on news, things

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Speaker 2: on news all the time, but it's always kind of

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. If it was for real, real real.

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Speaker 2: It would just be Lance. You just don't know. You're

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Speaker 2: just not in it. But before we start our interview, I.

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Speaker 1: Just yeah, we have on the show, and I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah him before Oh my gosh, good dude.

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Speaker 1: I love anytime there's a interview on. I'm always like

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Speaker 1: listening to his He's really well spoken.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so the puppy likes him too. In the in

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Speaker 2: the distance. But before we start this interview, I actually

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Speaker 2: am going to interview you via a fan question. It's

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Speaker 2: only one question. This was a very small interview. I

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Speaker 2: call this a frosted flake.

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Speaker 1: Did you just come up with that?

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Speaker 2: Literally, it just came up with that. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: hate you with this hard hitting frosted flake. This message

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Speaker 2: came in from Megam on Instagram. Him Megan Megam Do

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Speaker 2: you have any weird hobbies or interests weird?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think any of my interests are weird.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll start listing them now.

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Speaker 1: The thing is I have too many interests.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I do.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's which is a downfall for me, because

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Speaker 1: I do. I have, like I'm interested so many things

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Speaker 2: Really focus into one. Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm a what do they say, uh an

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Speaker 2: So oh yeah you're uh you're somethink.

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Speaker 1: Of all but a master of none, like a student

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Speaker 1: of all, an expert of none or I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's that's how I feel like I think I'm like

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Speaker 2: Yeah you are, I'm not. You're great and so many things,

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Speaker 2: but I have a but yeah, I love some of them.

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Speaker 2: It's a horrible interview.

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Speaker 1: Interests. Oh my gosh, Well you tell me you know

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Speaker 1: my interest.

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Speaker 2: Well, you have a big interest in feeding wildlife around

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Speaker 2: our property. It depends all the animals feeding, uh night habits,

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Speaker 1: I do love gardening. Yeah, I love space. I love

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Speaker 1: music obviously. You like puzzles, love puzzles. I love my children.

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Speaker 2: Well that's I shouldn't. I guess raising your children shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be a hobby. It's more of a duty.

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Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes it feels like a hobby, right.

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Speaker 2: Because when they're having so much fun, of course, it's

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Speaker 1: I mean again, I just have I have so many interests.

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Speaker 1: It just it all just kind of Do you have

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Speaker 1: any weird habits? Again, you tell me you're the one

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Speaker 1: who sees me. I don't know some of the things

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Speaker 1: I do. Weird habits, weird habit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're not that weird.

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Speaker 1: I don't have anything that you're like, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: he always does this little tick.

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Speaker 2: Well you weird habit? Yeah, Well you have habits of again,

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Speaker 2: you like to when it comes to quantities or explainings.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you tend to put like an exponent on the.

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Speaker 1: Quantity of everything has to be dramatic.

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Speaker 2: Yes, everything's dramatized to either be more or less depending

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Speaker 2: on how the story needs to go.

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Speaker 1: Because I need people to feel how dire it is. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know when I say there were you know, twenty

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Speaker 1: million people.

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Speaker 2: But the problem is you know that it felt like

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Speaker 2: to the people around you. Is believes you things when

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Speaker 2: you say it literally, So I always have to go

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Speaker 2: and I feel like an asshole after No, I go

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Speaker 2: and sprinkle the truth.

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Speaker 1: After I exaggerate so much that there's no way you

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Speaker 2: But it's not true, because the amount of people that

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Speaker 2: go to me like, really that that's true. No, that's

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Speaker 1: Well then they should know it's it's a thing you

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Speaker 2: Don't worry, I do. I do. Damn's control behind when

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Speaker 1: Oh Giggles is here, and she's reminded me of the

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Speaker 1: Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade debacle where I thought, what fifty

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Speaker 1: people were coming over for Thanksgiving? Which I did think

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Speaker 1: fifty people we were, We did have a lot of

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Speaker 1: you doing. I'm like, oh, I'm having a Thanksgiving for

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Speaker 1: like fifty people, but only eight showed up. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I quantitate it could have gotten to fifty. I've had

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he does that with parties too. He's like,

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Speaker 2: and he's like, well I had to invite the.

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Speaker 1: Not exaggerating, that's just being popular.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, Okay, you know what, this is a horrible interview.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna put this in the archives. Is a burn.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those little burnt frosted flakes you get,

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Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you get the little black frosted flake

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Speaker 2: that's burnt. Yeah, in the pack. That was this interview.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, it's the first ones we got

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Speaker 1: To Jason Morass. It's take a little break, we'll come back.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Jason Moras. Jason Thomas Moras is an

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Speaker 1: American singer, songwriter and guitarist. Born and raised in Virginia,

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Speaker 1: he rose to prominence with the release of his debut

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Speaker 1: His next two studio albums, Mister A to Z and

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Speaker 1: We Sing, We Dance, We Steal Things, peaked in the

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Speaker 1: album spawning the Grammy Award winning singles make It Mine

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Speaker 1: and Lucky with Kobe kalay To just release this eighth

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Speaker 1: studio Albumistical Magical, Rhythmical, Radical Ride, which is the you

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Speaker 1: have the Best Titles ever. In June, Jason Rows, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Frosted Tips.

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Speaker 3: My man, Hey, thanks for having me on your program.

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Speaker 2: Nice to be here.

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Speaker 1: We have definitely been looking forward to this interview. Love

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Speaker 1: you so much. But let's take it back from the

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Speaker 1: beginning because on the show we'd like to really get

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Speaker 1: to know what it was like at the very beginning

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Speaker 1: for you. So you grew up in a small town

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Speaker 1: in Virginia. What's town was this?

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Speaker 3: This was Richmond, Virginia, but we were a suburb of Richmond.

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Speaker 3: We were called Mechanicsville. Virginia means, so it was a

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Speaker 3: fine place to grow up, specifically because we did have

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Speaker 3: music arts band in our public schools and that was

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Speaker 3: to be introduced to music in fifth grade, given a recorder,

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Speaker 3: sixth grade, you could choose music as an elective, you know.

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Speaker 3: So props to hand over County Education for giving us

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Speaker 1: And it shows you right there why it is so

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Speaker 1: important for us to keep the arts in school. I

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Speaker 1: we're still trying to fight for the arts and schools

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Speaker 1: like it's a bad thing, like they're trying to get rid.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think about that? Why do you

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Speaker 1: think arts is so attacked in our public schools?

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Speaker 3: That is a good question. I really don't know. Just

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Speaker 3: a few years togo here in San Diego, about eighty

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Speaker 3: student eighty teachers were let go specifically from the arts

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Speaker 3: When they look at budget cuts, they just they look

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Speaker 3: school programs, which is why there's so many nonprofits supporting

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I wish I could answer that question. I mean, we

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Speaker 3: don't have a national Endowment for artists, you know, to

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Speaker 3: What draws people to San Diego to be?

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Speaker 3: And check on me.

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Speaker 3: Thanks. Thanks.

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Speaker 3: I probably had a dozen songs that I could play

442
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 3: on guitar that were originals that I really believed in

443
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 3: and and but what I felt was missing in my

444
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 3: life was experience. So I was like, I'm going to

445
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 3: take myself on an adventure. I've never been to the

446
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 3: West Coast. I've read about it, I've heard about it

447
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 3: feels like it's a pilgrimage that one must take in

448
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 3: one's life. So I set sail across the US, not

449
00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 3: knowing what I was going to do. I had one

450
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 3: friend in San Francisco that I was going to be

451
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 3: able to crash with, and then so I landed there,

452
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 3: scared out of my mind, had no money left. But

453
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 3: I figured, you know, I'll figure it out. I'll get

454
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: a job, I'll play house parties, I'll work my way up,

455
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 3: I'll find places to gig. And luckily, my friend had

456
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: a boyfriend who had a friend in the entertainment industry

457
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: who was a concert promoter and manager. You probably know

458
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: I'm Bill Silva. Oh yes, yeah. He was concert promoter

459
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: from San Diego and in the LA area, and so

460
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 3: he and my new friend in San Francisco were friends.

461
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: And so my San Francisco friend said, let's go down

462
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 3: to Vegas. We're going to go to a party. And

463
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 3: I took my guitar to this Vegas party and I

464
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 3: met Bill Silva and a lot of other great people

465
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 3: just playing my guitar in a hotel room and having

466
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 3: a good time. And luckily it was at a time

467
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 3: in Bill's life when he too was looking to take

468
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 3: on a client. So Bill leaned over to me, He's like,

469
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: what do you do? What do you do? And I

470
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: was like, I don't do anything. I just moved to California.

471
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 3: I mean, it was kind of the perfect thing. It

472
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: was like, I'm twenty one, I have no job, I

473
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 3: have an interest in entertainment, I have songs. I don't

474
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: even have a home really, and so Bill, being a

475
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 3: genius and a very generous and loving man, said why

476
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 3: don't you come down to San Diego and record some

477
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 3: of your songs. Let's see what you can do. So

478
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 3: I went down to San Diego from Vegas with my

479
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 3: little backpack, and I've been in California for maybe a

480
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 3: month at this point. So I really got lucky following

481
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: my intuition and this hunch that if I left at

482
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 3: spring break, I would be able to make some connections.

483
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 3: And so I find myself in San Diego just a

484
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 3: couple of weeks later, I record some songs. We all

485
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 3: agree that I need a lot of work. I don't

486
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 3: have any experience. So I stay in San Diego and

487
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 3: I start working the open mic scene and the songwriter nights,

488
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 3: and I basically live at Bill's house for two years

489
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 3: because he moves to Los Angeles at this exact same

490
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 3: time and says, look, I need somebody to house at

491
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 3: my house. My house is for sale, but you can

492
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: stay here until it sells and go play shows. Just

493
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 3: go play as many shows. So I just immersed myself

494
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 3: in the coffee shop scene, writing songs every week, playing

495
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: shows over at Java Joe's, over at Java Joe's. Luckily,

496
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: Bill's house didn't sell for about two years, so I

497
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: had this beautiful place I could crash. For two years,

498
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 3: I met a lot of friends who would pick me up,

499
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 3: drive me around. I didn't have vehicle. I got a bicycle.

500
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: And after those two years, I had gained a little

501
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 3: bit of an hodolliance and I'd written a lot more songs,

502
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: and Bill and I then created an agreement where he'd

503
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: be my manager and we would try to take these

504
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: songs to another level. So I gotta tell you, if

505
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 3: if I hadn't, if i'd have waited for the summer

506
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: break while I was in college, not taken the spring

507
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 3: break jump, my friend in San Francisco would have broken

508
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 3: up with her friend because that was inevitable, that was happening,

509
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 3: and I would have missed that window to meet that

510
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: guy who introduced me to Bill, and I may have

511
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: met Bill later, or I may have just met another

512
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 3: manager later. You know, it's probably that's probably what would

513
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: have happened. I would have met a different team. But

514
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: meeting Bill was the right person because of who he

515
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 3: was as a mentor, as a guru, as a yogi,

516
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: as a promoter, as a friend. He was just the

517
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: right person. He nurtured, he cared, he's patient. So I mean,

518
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 3: I got so that was my first big break, was

519
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: really meeting Bill and him encouraging me to then go

520
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: work hard, and then a couple of years later we

521
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: would get another break, and then another break and another break.

522
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: I think it's so wild. I mean, the butterfly fag.

523
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: We talk about this all the time, how lucky we

524
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: are all to be around right now, not only following

525
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: our dreams and having some successes and all that, but

526
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: just to be here. You know, your great grandmother could

527
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: have taken a left out of the house instead of

528
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: a right and not met your great great grandfather, and

529
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: then you wouldn't be here, just one little thing in history,

530
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: so everything had to line up perfectly for you to

531
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: be here today. I think that is so wild, and

532
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: I think everyone should realize how what a feat that is.

533
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: That is a success right there. So if you're ever

534
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: feeling down about yourself, just think about what it took

535
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: for you to get here, Like that is not it's

536
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: like you want you won, that is it? I mean?

537
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: And that's that's why we promote gratitude because if you

538
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: there is always something to be thankful for, it's a

539
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 3: miracle that we are here at all. You are right, And.

540
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: You know, gratitude is something that I take from you

541
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: with this new album. You know that to me, You

542
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: know this this album that you've come out with is

543
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: all about finding the good and things and the gratitude.

544
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: And even you have a song Gratitude, which I think

545
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: is beautiful and really hits home for because I know

546
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: you growing up. You know, like a lot of us

547
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: were bullied. Yeah, and I love because I was listening

548
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: to one of your interviews where you're saying, you know,

549
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: it's so easy to move away, right, just get out

550
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: of the situation. But sometimes people can't get out of

551
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: that situation. You're not you know, you're not able to.

552
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: But you took all of that bullying and all of that,

553
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: you know that that pain and turn it into something good.

554
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: And I also love that you said, you know you

555
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: you thank those bullies, you think all those because you

556
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 1: know what you did was you weren't going to live

557
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: in fear anymore and you're going to do something good

558
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: with your life to prove to them that they made

559
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: nothing like. They worked so hard to hurt you, but

560
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: you did something so much better, so they didn't affect

561
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: you at all. So I really love your writing on

562
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: this one in particular.

563
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

564
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: Ah, thanks, thanks, appreciate that.

565
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: We had to get into Okay, So congratulations. Also coming

566
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: out bisexual, was that twenty ten or twenty eighteen? I

567
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: think that you were able to talk about that, and

568
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: I relate to your stories so much because a lot

569
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: of the things that kept me from being who I

570
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: truly was was protecting my family, you know, and you

571
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: know you don't you want them to You never want

572
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: them to feel like a failure, right, And we were

573
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: told so much in our lives that it's wrong to

574
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: be this, you have to do this, and you just

575
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: always and for me, just wanted to kind of stay

576
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: in because you didn't want to embarrass your family and

577
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: make them feel like they did something wrong. So tell

578
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: me your experience of finding yourself and how your family

579
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: took you coming out as bisexual.

580
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you said family, because that's part that's

581
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: often like, it's that's the real you know, It's it's

582
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: not my fans. It's like, how's mom gonna feel? You know,

583
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: how's I'm going to look in her community?

584
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: Right? You don't want to hurt them, You don't want

585
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: to go because when you come right, your family comes

586
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: out too, exactly.

587
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 3: And when I was growing up, I think I think

588
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: my mom was a bit of a late bloomer to

589
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: to understanding gay lifestyle and understanding that gay people are

590
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: born naturally.

591
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: You know, it was late.

592
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: She was a late bloomer to that idea. Because my

593
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 3: best friend in high school came out and my mom

594
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: had a little trouble with it at first. And when

595
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: I say at first, I say for a couple of years.

596
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: And that almost prevented me from going any further in

597
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: my exploration or at least my public sharing of it

598
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: in some way, you know, just for just yeah, fear

599
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: of your own parent. I guess my mom was never abusive.

600
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: My mom was such a wonderful lady, but so yeah,

601
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 3: there was that, And then I think for me, my

602
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: remedy was, I'm just gonna leave town. I'm just I'm

603
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 3: never gonna have to I'll never tell them, I'll never

604
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: face any of it. I'll just go to New York

605
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 3: City and then I'll move to California. I'll live three

606
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: thousand miles. Well, I'll do my own thing. I'll live

607
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: in my own bubble. And uh, you can't do that forever,

608
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: you can't. You just so over time, it just felt

609
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: I felt like I was shorting myself and and limiting

610
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: the experiences I could even have in life by being closeted.

611
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: So my dad found out when I made a video

612
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: clip with very gay paint. Do you know very gay? Okay,

613
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: my studio is painted by very Yeah.

614
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: They have a brand new book out too. That's really great.

615
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: I y love the very very gay pain for a

616
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: mutual friend.

617
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right, that's right.

618
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: That's a really good friend.

619
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: Hope.

620
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were Yeah, she's the best. Yeah, so we

621
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: made a song together. I wanted to write very gay

622
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: painted theme song and they're like, no, no, no, no, thanks,

623
00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: we don't need one.

624
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll write you one, no problem, prostitutes.

625
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: Sure, I'll make you so. So I made a little

626
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: video for it. It's cute. It's on It's on our socials,

627
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: Deep Deep, a couple of years ago, and at the

628
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: very end it's either the tagline is we're very gay

629
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: paint and also we're gay and your son is gay.

630
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: And then my dad calls me afterwards and you know,

631
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: he's like, hey, I saw your video. Son. He's like,

632
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: I just want you to know we love you and

633
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: we're proud of you for everything you've accomplished. I was like,

634
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: all right, Dad, thank you, love you. You know, he's

635
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: so sweet. Not a man of many words, but he's

636
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: all love. So that was just a few years ago. Yeah,

637
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's been. Honestly, I always wanted my

638
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: songs to be more popular than me. I didn't want

639
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: my songs to have to have a person or a

640
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: personality attached to them. For you to understand it and

641
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: get into the song. You should just be able to

642
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: hear it, like it, And in general, I didn't want

643
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: to ever like have to feed too much celebrity into

644
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: my career. I just I wanted to be able to

645
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: sell tickets. I wanted to be able to play shows,

646
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: and so with all of that, I never thought about,

647
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: you know, putting my sexuality into my sound bites. I

648
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: guess even though even though whenever I was in you know,

649
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 3: hetero romantic relationships, I noticed it was easy to do.

650
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: I could off the cuff easily talk about it, sing

651
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: about it. So I was kind of I'd kind of

652
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 3: grown tired of that, that sort of one sidedness, and

653
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: especially as all my relationships were failing, I was like,

654
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: I'm not being real with myself. So I freed myself up.

655
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: I got a little real, started being a little more open,

656
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: and my whole life experience has transformed and shift that

657
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: I feel lighter, yeah, having more fun.

658
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: That's true. It feels like the you know, the weight

659
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: of the world just kind of is off your shoulders.

660
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: Well, you could finally be like your real self without

661
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: always having to kind of guard that one side, so

662
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: you're always kind of on alert at all times. At

663
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: least for me, that was my case before I came.

664
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: To the anxieties. Great, do you do you suffer from

665
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: anxiety at all? Are you able to handle that well?

666
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 3: I think I handle it well.

667
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you how do you deal with fame.

668
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean you started at a very young age. I

669
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: mean you started shitting a boy band when you're in

670
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: eighth grade. How did you how how do you do

671
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: you cope with fame? Well, because you were just saying,

672
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, you'd rather the songs be bigger than the artist.

673
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know, it's I don't think I have

674
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: to deal with a lot of fame. I think I'm okay.

675
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 3: Most people don't know what I look like. In fact,

676
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 3: i'll see comments on videos that I'll say, that's what

677
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 3: Jason Morez looks like, and I like that.

678
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good thing.

679
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah Yeah. And where I live in terrible, gloomy San Diego,

680
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: the worst town in America. Nobody, I don't know. There's

681
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: maybe one lady at my grocery store that wants a

682
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: picture with me every time I'm in there. I'm like, really,

683
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: the same You're wearing the same outfit every time. So

684
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: that's about it.

685
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: So you released your first album October two thousand and two,

686
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: your first major label debut with Waiting for My Rocket

687
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: to comb Ah. What was that moment like for you?

688
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: You're finally You've been working on these songs for years,

689
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: You've been paying your dues, you've been living in shitty

690
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: San Diego. What was it like to finally release this.

691
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: Album, this, this new album or.

692
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: The first the first one?

693
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, scary, very scary because I had prior been a

694
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: a pre been a coffee shop acoustic thing and a

695
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 3: bit punk like songs that didn't have choruses very long,

696
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: you know, Bob Dylan s songs with seven verses. And

697
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: I had a percussionist and a bass player and it

698
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: was just the three of us, and we made this

699
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: really quirky acoustic sound. And then I go and make

700
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: a record and it's you know, there's ninety tracks on

701
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: the remedy, you know, literally ninety pro tools files, right,

702
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: And I just thought, there's no way I'm going to

703
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: be able to perform this. I can't. The chorus starts,

704
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 3: the down beat of the chorus starts before the verse

705
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 3: even ends, and so in my head, I'm just thinking, technically,

706
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 3: I don't know how I'm going to pull this off.

707
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: And I thought I was also going to alienate or

708
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: scare my fan base, which was, you know, a bit

709
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: of a San Diego crowd, but also this college crowd

710
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 3: that had been purchasing my acoustic CDs online and were

711
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: spreading these CDs around campuses, and so I don't know.

712
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: I just thought I I had blown up my sound

713
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: a little too much. But I was wrong. I was

714
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: wrong because what I did was I amplified my sound

715
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 3: that gave me access to radio waves, radio frequencies and

716
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 3: get my songs played on the radio and make a

717
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: even bigger noise. So while I was a little intimidated

718
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 3: at first, it turned out to be a good thing.

719
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: But what I had to do was hire a drummer

720
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 3: and another guitar player slash keyboard player to come on

721
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: the road with us. And I had to learn how

722
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: to be a band after the album came out, because

723
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: the remedy was taking off and we felt like I

724
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 3: needed to show up and make the album sounds. So

725
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: our little trio turned into a band. And then ever

726
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 3: since then, I've been kind of learning how to put

727
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 3: a band together and figure that out. But it still

728
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 3: starts with you know, solo acoustic or just a few

729
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 3: people on acoustic instruments.

730
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time you heard your song

731
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: on the radio. There's nothing like hearing your song on

732
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: the radio.

733
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have two different experiences of that one, I

734
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 3: was at the radio station, so it's not as romantic the.

735
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: Car, it's exactly.

736
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: And so my first car listen, I was actually in

737
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 3: Australia and I had rented a car, and so I'm

738
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: on the opposite side of the car. I'm on the

739
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: opposite side of the road, and I'm at a red

740
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 3: light and the remedy comes on and my first instinct was, oh,

741
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 3: I got to take the CD out because I'm returning

742
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: the rental car. But I didn't have the CD in there,

743
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: and I realized, oh, my gosh, it's on the radio,

744
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: and so I turned the the wind is down. I

745
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: turned it up, and then I got embarrassed and I

746
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 3: turned it down because I didn't want to be seen

747
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 3: like rocking out to my song. But then I realized,

748
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: nobody knows this song or who I am. But it

749
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: was a really like literally a backwards moment because I

750
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 3: was on the opposite side of the road.

751
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

752
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: I love hearing people's first time they heard Yeah. So

753
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: it was cool. You know, in the early two thousand,

754
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: it was an interesting time in the music industry. It

755
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: was you know, the nineties really kind of set it

756
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: up where it was just so eclectic of just so

757
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: many different types of music that was blowing up at

758
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: this time. You were coming out there, you know, it

759
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: was Us, Brittany, Jennifer Lopez, Eminem. It was a crazy scene.

760
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: So what did you think about entering the music scene

761
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: at this point or are you thinking about, like, how

762
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: do I stand out? How do I, you know, compete

763
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: with Britney Spears, who's selling fifty million records in album?

764
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: Was it a scary time for you or were you

765
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: just excited to be your singer songwriter?

766
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was excited to be myself. I didn't really

767
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: start to feel like industry competition until probably around twenty sixteen.

768
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: So I had a long stretch of I felt like

769
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: where I was just in my own lane or it

770
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: didn't matter because I just felt like a contest winner already,

771
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: you know. So I made my first album and I

772
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: just felt like, this was great. I got to make

773
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: an album. Let's go on tour. And then the album

774
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: did well, so it's like, oh, great, I get to

775
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: make another one. Let's try that, and that one was

776
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: The second album was a little bit harder to make

777
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: because I had to write it on tour and pull

778
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: it together really quickly, and while it commercially wasn't as successful,

779
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: it contains a lot of songs that have survived my

780
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: show so that I still play quite a bit, which

781
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: is quite cool. And so then I thought, Okay, no

782
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: big deal. I did two albums. I'm going to take

783
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 3: a big break, still not really paying attention to trends

784
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: in the industry and whatnot, and I was going on

785
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: personal life workshops and just trying to make sure I

786
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 3: had peace in my life. And that's when I ended

787
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: up writing I'm Yours into the songs from We See,

788
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 3: We Dance, We Steal Things, and that album did its

789
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 3: own thing that took us around the world, and I

790
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: just stayed busy for years that then, and then it

791
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: just kept going. It went into the next album, and

792
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: then I got to go into the next album. It

793
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: wouldn't be until twenty sixteen that my songs were getting

794
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 3: stuck at an an r's office for about three four

795
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: years and I wasn't getting any traction, and I really

796
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: felt then, oh, I need to have some a story,

797
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: I need to have a sound, I need to have

798
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: something that competes in the world. And that was the

799
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: first time I really felt the competitiveness, but no, you

800
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: were free to do your own thing. I was doing

801
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: my own thing. Early days were great.

802
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: What is your favorite song to play in concert?

803
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: Ah sucks. I don't know. No, I have no preference.

804
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 3: I mean when I'm in the song, that's my favorite song.

805
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, we have to sorry about the remedy because

806
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: I know you've told the story so many times, but

807
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: you originally did not want this song on the album.

808
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: So why was that?

809
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I had written the remedy in my car

810
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 3: on the five Freeway driving between San Diego and LA

811
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: and I had seen the fireworks exploding in Anaheim at Disneyland,

812
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: and I just start rapping. I saw fireworks from the

813
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: freeway and behind closed eyes, I.

814
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: Got about Disney.

815
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: Right, it's about the fireworks. And what that moment relates

816
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: to was my friend Charlie, who I grew up with

817
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: in Mechanicsville. He was born on July fourth, so the

818
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 3: fireworks really represent his birthday celebration. And at that time

819
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: in two thousand, the year two thousand, two thousand and one,

820
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: he was diagnosed with you in sarcoma and was battling cancer.

821
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 3: And I was living in shitty San Diego and living

822
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: my dream and making music and potentially making an album.

823
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: And I couldn't understand why I ended up with my

824
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 3: circumstances and he ended up with his because we grew

825
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: up in the same town, drank the same water, they

826
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: did the same people, I mean, very similar upbringings. And

827
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: yet he's he's losing all of his hair and he's

828
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: plugged in and he's going through chemo. So I write

829
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: this song in my car, and I start putting it

830
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: in my show, weaving this little rap into various songs

831
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: as a tribute to my homie. And then I take

832
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: that song idea into a songwriting session with the Matrix

833
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: and we distill the meaning to down to its essence,

834
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 3: and they helped me write the chorus, I won't worry

835
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 3: my life away, which is Charlie's mantra during that whole ordeal.

836
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: He'd say, Man, I'm not going to worry my life away.

837
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 3: I'm going to do what the doctors tell me. And

838
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: the only and like the for this is the experience.

839
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: I'm just going to go through it. He's like, I

840
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: gotta go through it to get over it. And so

841
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: I was putting these messages in the song. And when

842
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: we made this song with the Matrix, it scared me

843
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 3: a little bit because of how giant the song sounded,

844
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: and again how the chorus started before the verse ended,

845
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: and then also because I felt like, oh, no, am

846
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: I exploiting my friend? Am I exploiting his you know

847
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: what is sacred to him? These mantras? And I got

848
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: his blessing. He said, man, I love it. I think

849
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 3: it's a great song, but I still didn't want to

850
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 3: put on the record and I didn't share it with

851
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 3: my producer and I didn't share it with the band.

852
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: But the label had heard it and that was enough.

853
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 3: So I get into the I get into the studio

854
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: on our last day of recording the basics, which is

855
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: drums and bass, And when I get into the studio,

856
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: everyone's listening to the remedy, my demo of it, and

857
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: I think, where did you get this? Because I hadn't

858
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: heard it in months, and they're like, well, the label

859
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: sent it over and they thought we should give it

860
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 3: a try, we should do our own version of it.

861
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: And I thought, Nope, not happening. This song is going

862
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: to take me a direction that I'm not sure I

863
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: want to go. And I don't want to ruin, you know,

864
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: I don't want to exploit my friend's situation. And they're like, well,

865
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: you just don't like the demo, lets us try.

866
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: Oh gosh.

867
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: I just felt like my life was going to change

868
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: in this moment. I knew it. There were other songs

869
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: on that album that I thought could be great singles

870
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 3: that I could go forward with, but I was nervous

871
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: that if I did the remedy, that was the song

872
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 3: I was going to have to sing every day. And

873
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 3: in the vocal booth, we're going through the motions, we're

874
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 3: putting the arrangement down, and I am crying on the

875
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: microphone while singing it because they felt like a bit

876
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: of a sellout. And my manager was there, and as

877
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: soon as the song's over, I'm embarrassed and I run

878
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: outside to just get away from people, and it's pouring

879
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: down rain and I'm hiding. I'm hiding under the stairs,

880
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: and my manager comes out and he's so sweet and

881
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 3: he says, just listen to the words, like listen to

882
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 3: your own take your own medicine right here and right now.

883
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: Listen to the words. You know, this is a beautiful song.

884
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: It's going to touch a lot of people. Don't worry

885
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: your life away, you know the experience, you go through

886
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 3: this experience, And so I took his advice and I

887
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 3: continued to build the track and color it the way

888
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: we thought would fit the record, And of course it

889
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: continued to take off. And then ironically or not ironically, symbiotically,

890
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: it really started to connect with people who were going

891
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 3: through cancer and surviving cancer. They were hearing those ingredients

892
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: in there because it's it's not obvious, but for somehow

893
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: they were really connecting it. So I found myself in

894
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 3: care centers and in hospitals singing this song a year later.

895
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: Was that the first time you realize that you could

896
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: affect someone just through your lyrics. Because there's so many

897
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: times in my life that fans will come up and,

898
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: you know, tell me a story about one of my songs.

899
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: That God must have spend a lot more time when

900
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: you you know, stop someone from driving over cliff. One day,

901
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: you know, the song came out on the radio. She

902
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: listened to the words and she decided not to kill herself.

903
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: Those are the I mean, just like, yeah, sometimes you

904
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: don't realize you know what people are going through and

905
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: what your music can actually do for them. So was

906
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: that the moment you're like, wow.

907
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how does that feel just knowing? You know,

908
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: you think to yourself it's like, oh, it's a song

909
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, but to other people it could be

910
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: life changing and just so many people you can spread

911
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: these messages.

912
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a huge learning experience and it opened

913
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: my eyes to the power of positive thinking, transformative language,

914
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: positive articulation. Songs that have mantras like I won't worry

915
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 3: my life away, I won't give up. These these powerful

916
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: messages that anyone can sing and transform transform their life experience.

917
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: I get transformed by it when I sing it. And

918
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 3: so what it did was it shifted my perspective as

919
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: a songwriter to try to create these songs of purpose

920
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: and try to create these songs that have that that

921
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: same potency of a reason to live, you know, a

922
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 3: reason to survive, you know.

923
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

924
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: So I definitely credit Charlie and his experience for being

925
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 3: a huge inspiration on what has now become an entire

926
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: career of it.

927
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: What I've always loved about you is your awareness of

928
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: the world and what is going on, and just the

929
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: way you talk about uh situations. If it's political or not.

930
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: I love how you just describe things. Every time I

931
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: listen to an interview of yours, I feel like it

932
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: just improves all of our mindsets, you know, like, yeah,

933
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: that's right, you really, Yeah, that's that's the way to

934
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: look at it as a public figure. And I feel like,

935
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 1: especially in the last you know, few years, it's we're

936
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: kind of the enemy of the state. Sometimes it's you know,

937
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: sometimes when we have a message that we want to

938
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: use our platform for, sometimes it could go the opposite

939
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: way because people are like, oh, and don't preach to me,

940
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: don't get political, you're too woke. You know that those

941
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, those things that keep being thrown at you.

942
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: How do you deal with that situation? How how do

943
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: you kind of walk that fine line of getting a

944
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: message out you want people to know, but yet not

945
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, pissing off the people that are pushing

946
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: back against this message.

947
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, I don't know.

948
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: You do a great job of it.

949
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you. I feel like I could still

950
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: do more. First of all, when did woke become such

951
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: a bad thing?

952
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: I know, it's ridiculous that you are aware, you've opened

953
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: your eyes something you're.

954
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: Aware of inequality or things differences.

955
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember distinctly, like six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,

956
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: like all these years, the language, especially around la and

957
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: people that I was looking up to, I was hearing,

958
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: there's an awakening. We are we're in the middle of

959
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: an awakening. The great Awakening is coming, right, And then

960
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 3: I feel like we were, we're we're kind of there,

961
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, the awakening is in the

962
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: past tense, and now we are woke. And now woke

963
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: is a bad thing bad And I and so anybody

964
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 3: out there who who hears the word woke and as

965
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: a bad thing, I invite you to just shift your

966
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: perspective on that, because basically, we are finally awake to

967
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: see the injustices and the inequalities that have been there

968
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 3: for our entire lives. And now we have an opportunity

969
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 3: to correct some situations and amend those situations and make

970
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 3: life better for all people in this miraculous moment that

971
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 3: we are given to live and breathe. So, woke is

972
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 3: a good thing. Don't let any politician or any other

973
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: channel tell you that woke is bad.

974
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: Oh it's a buzzword, you know. And I think it's

975
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: because the people that are so scared of the word woke.

976
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: I think it's just because they're embarrassed about what their

977
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: mindset was before they exactly, you know, exactly comes from

978
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: that embarrassment.

979
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. You don't feel bad about yourself.

980
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: And we've all come from I mean, look, we were

981
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: all ignorant at some point in all kinds of situations,

982
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, that's right, so we all became aware.

983
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: Meaning well, of course, everybody's ignorant until you learn. I mean,

984
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: there's not one person who's born non ignorant. So yeah,

985
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: it's just it's just what it's just. I mean, in life,

986
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: you become more woke as you go through.

987
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: As a teenager and a closeted gay guy, I was

988
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: against uh you know, same sex marriage, you know, because

989
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: that's what I was taught I needed to be, you know.

990
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: So it's like, that's right. You you believe these things

991
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: that you know, you end up not believing it in

992
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: the future, and you should be proud of that. You

993
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: should be proud of educating yourself and learning. Yeah.

994
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's awakening looks different, and that's another reason to

995
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: be compassionate for for everyone out there, and so the

996
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: same can be said about standing up for for any

997
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 3: issue and being vocal about it. If if a fan

998
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 3: has any issue with it, it's just that they're, like

999
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 3: you just said, they're they're probably embarrassed for their mindset

1000
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: and they're just likely not yet tuned into the to

1001
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 3: the same information that I am. So I think it's

1002
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: important for us if we, if we believe something, to

1003
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 3: use our platform for good. You know, I try to

1004
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 3: look at it that way. I use my superpowers for good.

1005
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. Yeah, I think you and Ed Charon

1006
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: should compete for the most songs used in wedding songs, hey,

1007
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 1: for people's first dances, because I mean, I'm pretty sure

1008
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm yours is the number one first dance at weddings

1009
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: that song. I mean, did you realize how huge that

1010
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: was gonna be? I want to say that it's been

1011
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: sixteen weeks at number one.

1012
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't know.

1013
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: It was crazy.

1014
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, on the adult contemporary charts four months straight.

1015
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: That's insane.

1016
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened with that. If I did know,

1017
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 3: i'd write a lot more of.

1018
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: Right, right, Yeah, do you ever go to weddings and

1019
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: they do play that song, You're like, oh God, here

1020
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: we go.

1021
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 3: No, I just don't go to weddings.

1022
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good.

1023
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: Remedy for this, because I can't go to a wedding

1024
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: without by Bye Bye being played, you know at the reception. Yeah,

1025
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: and then of course, then you know you kind of

1026
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: get the side I have, like going to go on stage?

1027
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 1: Is he going to go on stage?

1028
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: That's the thing this, Yeah, you feel that side I

1029
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: it's beers.

1030
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you like doing collaborations duets? Is there one

1031
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: that you do to do in the future, Like who

1032
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: is your get?

1033
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 3: I don't have a get.

1034
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: I may and you're sharing you should create the ultimate

1035
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: wedding first dance song.

1036
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 3: That's that is actually a great idea. Yeah, so yes,

1037
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 3: let's just put that out there. Ed and I will

1038
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: create the ultimate wedding.

1039
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 1: So I'm sure Ed is listening right now, So.

1040
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is. He's a loyal, loyal listener to Speaking.

1041
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: Of boy bands, what was your favorite band in the

1042
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: boy band genre? No pressure, you know you don't have

1043
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: to say Insanc.

1044
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 3: Okay, well I did mention pc quest, yes earlier.

1045
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to go deep dive on pc quest after.

1046
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 3: The reason that was influential is because the sing was

1047
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: probably also twelve or thirteen, and so that's how old

1048
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 3: I was, and so it really clicked. And I saw

1049
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 3: them perform at a skating rink, but they were on

1050
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 3: a national tour, and I thought, wait a minute, you

1051
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 3: can do this. You can you can see it.

1052
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: And so we were talking about the skating rink right

1053
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: before we got on with you, because one I was saying,

1054
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: am I too old a skate and.

1055
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: He said, yes, Lances, Lance is definitely too old. He

1056
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 2: see every if he just like bumps into a counter,

1057
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 2: he like breaks a hip.

1058
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: So it's I think I might be at the age

1059
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: where I shouldn't be on skates.

1060
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 2: It's absolutely not okay.

1061
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 3: But they have video games there too.

1062
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

1063
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: But it was the place to be growing up in

1064
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties and it was the original TRL.

1065
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: That's where you went and you heard all the hits.

1066
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: That's right with your friends. You all had to be

1067
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: there on Friday night. It was just it really. I

1068
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: wish that was a thing today. I mean, I know

1069
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: there's roller skate rinks out there, but it was that's

1070
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: the only place that you really got to get with

1071
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: your friends to I don't know really get into view. Yeah,

1072
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: it was a music video.

1073
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: It was like your way of going to a club

1074
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: back when you were younger.

1075
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 1: You're waiting for that right song to do an all

1076
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: skate or backwards skate like it was a whole thing.

1077
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: And then yeah, your rich friends would get the h

1078
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: one of the speed skates. I could never get the

1079
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: speed skates. Yeah, yeah, poor thing. And well, congratulations on

1080
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: your eighth studio aut okay, Mystical Magical Rhythmical Radical Ride.

1081
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: Tell me how did you come up with this name?

1082
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 3: So it's a lyric inside the the the album in

1083
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: one of the songs, and it says something get down

1084
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 3: low like an animal and kiss the ground that you're

1085
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 3: walking on because it's a miracle that we're here at

1086
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 3: all on this mystical, magical rhythmical radical Ride. It's kind

1087
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 3: of how you preface this this whole interview, is that

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00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 3: it's a way of looking at life rather than just

1089
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 3: say life, because it's just it's there's no parameters there,

1090
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 3: it's just life. It's one syllable, but mystical matter ag

1091
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 3: Rhythmical Radical Ride, thirteen syllables, this multi syllabic thing that

1092
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: colors our world and reminds us to be mystified by it,

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00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 3: that we don't know everything, but to use our superpowers

1094
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: and to explore and to be magical and trust that

1095
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 3: we'll get another chance. That's the rhythmical nature of life

1096
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 3: is that you know, if we failed once, we can

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00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 3: pick up and try ourselves again. And radical is anything

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00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 3: you want it to be. And Ride is this time

1099
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: through life. So the album is a journey through time.

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00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: It's looking back at you know, whatever experience I may

1101
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 3: have lived in forty years, and looking ahead at maybe

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00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 3: another forty years, at what's possible. But it's the album

1103
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 3: itself is no different than other albums I've made. It's optimistic,

1104
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 3: and it's got a variety of tempos and themes, and

1105
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: but it's just, I guess, the first album I've done

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00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 3: in my mid forties. I also wrote this album in

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00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: tandem with Reigning Jane. I would love to add And

1108
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 3: they are a girl band, although it's not really necessary

1109
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: you call them a girl band. They're just a great band,

1110
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: four women that I've worked with since two thousand and six.

1111
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 3: We made an album in twenty fourteen. It's called a

1112
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: Yes And this is our follow up to that album.

1113
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 3: We wrote this together over the pandemic. We'd come together

1114
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 3: sitting in a circle and write songs, and so I

1115
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 3: made sure when we recorded this album, I was only

1116
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 3: tapping into that pool of songs that I wrote with

1117
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 3: raining Jane, because I wanted us to have another experience together.

1118
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 3: So they'll be in my super band this summer, as

1119
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 3: well as some other great musicians to bring this album

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00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: to life.

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00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: That's great, you know. I love the return to a

1122
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: little pop music sound. We were just at Disney Pride

1123
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: and your song was playing. I didn't know it was

1124
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: your song yet, and we were just jamming to We

1125
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: were with Joan Grande and Frankie Grande and everyone was

1126
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: just loving the song. And Joan was like, oh, that's

1127
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: Jason Moras, Like what, no way, Like, what song was it?

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00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 3: I don't know that I feel like saying maybe so maybe.

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00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was over the loudspeaker, so I

1130
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: couldn't like, I love it, but it but it kept

1131
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: playing all night long. I guess they had like a

1132
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: playlist of only like twenty songs they could play. Incredit

1133
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: just kept playing like yes, the songs on So that

1134
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: became like our song of prive it oh so cool.

1135
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: So uh. Now, we hope you keep making music forever.

1136
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: But in your mind, what do you see the next

1137
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: ten years of your life being? Do you want to

1138
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: continue pumping out albums? You have other aspirations of maybe?

1139
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. Have you ever thought about doing acting?

1140
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 3: Uh? Yes, I did a short stint on Broadway and

1141
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 3: Sarah Burrellis's Waitress.

1142
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: I mean that was your Broadway debut.

1143
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,479
Speaker 3: I loved it. I loved it so much I felt

1144
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 3: like I was on a paid vacation. Even though eight

1145
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 3: shows a week, I felt like I was doing Saturday

1146
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 3: Night Live eight shows a week right because it was

1147
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 3: a funny show, it had great music, The audience was

1148
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 3: so excited every night every day. And I didn't have

1149
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 3: to make a set list. I didn't have to think

1150
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 3: about what hat I was gonna wear. I could put

1151
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: Jason ras aside and just go be doctor Pometer. And

1152
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 3: if my phone rang and I had an invitation to

1153
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 3: go do another one of those, I definitely would. I

1154
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 3: love acting if there's gonna be if it's gonna lead

1155
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 3: to a song. I don't know that I could carry

1156
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 3: acting in just a TV show or a movie.

1157
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: Would you ever take a crack of writing a musical? Uh,

1158
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: it's a long process.

1159
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: It is.

1160
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 3: That's the thing. I A song is three or four

1161
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 3: minutes long, and so I love building these short stories

1162
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 3: in song. It's where my strength is. And I don't

1163
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 3: I can't see myself spending seven years working on a

1164
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 3: batch of songs because I hear that's kind of the average.

1165
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: It could altogether. I mean, all your lyrics are just

1166
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: so say thank you anyway, thank you. Take all your

1167
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: favorite ones and just write a story around it.

1168
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 3: It's true. It's true. So the next ten years of

1169
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 3: my life, you know, I've been so fortunate that I've

1170
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 3: gotten to do what I've been doing. And when I

1171
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 3: finished up my major label deal in twenty eighteen, I

1172
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 3: switched to an indie label and I get to make

1173
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 3: anything I want. And so my first album was a

1174
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 3: reggae album. This new album goes back to dance and

1175
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 3: sort of a pop format with mystical magical. The next

1176
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 3: thing I have on the shelf is is completely bizarro.

1177
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 3: It's country inspirational bluegrass.

1178
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: Bluegrass is yeah favorite.

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01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, this is something I made for my grandmother

1180
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 3: because she never cared for my music. She would always ask,

1181
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 3: is it gospel? No, it's not. So I made a

1182
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 3: country reinspirational album based on these songs that my grandma loved.

1183
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 3: So that's sitting on the shelf. And basically what I

1184
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 3: want to do for the next ten years is just

1185
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 3: do things that are completely different from the next and

1186
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 3: and do things that I haven't done before. And that

1187
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 3: might also end up sort of evolving into me writing

1188
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 3: with other artists or producing for other artists, because as

1189
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 3: I get older, the less excited I am about public appearance.

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01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 3: I don't know why. It's just it was fun to

1191
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 3: do when I was young and felt like I could

1192
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 3: just throw myself in there. But again, I live in

1193
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,479
Speaker 3: San Diego, away from the LA and I don't put

1194
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 3: fame first, so it's hard to put records out if

1195
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 3: you don't want to be on camera. So I think

1196
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 3: the next ten years you'll see me kind of retreating

1197
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 3: a little bit. Maybe open a cat sanctuary here in

1198
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 3: San Diego.

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01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: That sounds perfect.

1200
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 3: I could just do that, Like if I had a

1201
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 3: hundred cats here, you'd never hear from me ever. Again,

1202
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 3: I'd be.

1203
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: Cat like I know, I always say, I just want

1204
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: to open up like a dog cafe, which is all puppies,

1205
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: all rescue puppies that you can come and adopt them

1206
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: all the time, and you're just drinking your coffee and

1207
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: you just the puppies in your lap the whole time.

1208
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: But I don't mind cats either. We can't have cats

1209
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: because he's highly allergic.

1210
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 3: But I can't make you a cat hair cappuccino at

1211
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 3: my cat.

1212
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,959
Speaker 2: You know what, I'll take lots of allergy pills that day.

1213
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: I'm certain I'm delicious.

1214
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: All right, Jason. Before we let you go, I have

1215
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: some fan questions for you from Searn sb Eskerka if

1216
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: you could do if you could do a duet with

1217
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: any artists too, would it be? I kind of said that,

1218
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: but I uh, maybe today's artists, like right now in

1219
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: the zeitgeist of new artists, who would it be.

1220
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 3: In the zeitgeist of new Well, I should just ask

1221
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift.

1222
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure everybody would say that.

1223
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always a good answer, yes Taylor. Have you

1224
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: ever met Taylor Swift?

1225
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 2: Before I have?

1226
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 3: I got to perform I'm Yours with Taylor at one

1227
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 3: of her big shows. Nice when she because she always

1228
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 3: loves to cover other songs when she's nearby that artist's hometown.

1229
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 3: So she invited me up and I got to pop

1230
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 3: out of the you know, the elevator, Yeah, pop up,

1231
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 3: sing my song and then go back down. She was

1232
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 3: she was lovely, a very very nice person.

1233
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Another question by Trev music expert, what was

1234
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,479
Speaker 2: it like being on Family Guy and the people still

1235
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:41,959
Speaker 2: refer to you as some guy with the hat?

1236
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, I hear it all the time. Whenever I

1237
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 3: introduced myself or someone says, I'll hear it like it's

1238
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 3: whatever the ear version of side eye is. Maybe it's evesdropping.

1239
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 3: I'll hear someone say, oh, there's Jason Raz over there,

1240
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: and then someone usually says, no, that's just some guy

1241
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 3: and a half, just like the just like the Family

1242
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 3: Guy script.

1243
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: That's great, okay. Texas Pearl Fringies asked what's the key

1244
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: to knowing when an avocado is ripe?

1245
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: Mmm?

1246
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 3: Mmmm, Well, it'll develop a little circle on it that

1247
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 3: says ripe. Now, oh yeah it doesn't. Some grocery stores

1248
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 3: will stick that on there. What is the key? I

1249
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 3: like to say that it's soft to the touch, but

1250
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 3: still firm like a pencil eraser. Oh, okay, okay. And

1251
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 3: people also ask me how do you avoid avocado? Hand?

1252
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 3: Do you know what avocado is?

1253
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: Slice that hand.

1254
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 3: And I say, use a spoon because if it's if

1255
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 3: it's ripe, you don't need to use a knife to

1256
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 3: cut into your avocado.

1257
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: You know that's good. It is insane how avocados go

1258
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: from perfect to just rank in two days done.

1259
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 2: It's true, you got to hit it when it's right.

1260
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 3: They're elusive. Yeah, there are varieties that don't turn dark,

1261
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 3: so they can really fool you because it's still green

1262
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 3: on your counter, but it's long, long overdue.

1263
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think a lot of restaurants use that because

1264
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: I get comment it's like it looks green, but why

1265
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: does a stink?

1266
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 2: So it's a.

1267
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you what movies or actually what TV

1268
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: shows are you watching right now? Give us some recommendations.

1269
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 3: Gosh, I don't have them. I I haven't seen anything film.

1270
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: Is there a film you've seen recently? You can recommend documentaries.

1271
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 3: I do like documentaries. I really enjoyed gosh. I think

1272
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 3: the last movie I really enjoyed was Everything Everywhere, All

1273
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 3: at Once. So yeah, so if I if I choose

1274
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: a film, I go for sci fi, inspirational. That's my genre.

1275
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 3: So movies like that's the perfect example. But you know

1276
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 3: it might be like Phenomenon. Remember that movie. I think

1277
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 3: it was Travolta. Gosh, what am I thinking? Interstellar? It

1278
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 3: has to have a sci fi twist, but also has

1279
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: to have an inspirational and spiritual twist, like that's that's where,

1280
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 3: That's where I want to sit. That's where I want

1281
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 3: to watch Life of Pie. Do you remember that that

1282
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: was a great book turned movie. Yeah? I I For

1283
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 3: some reason, movies TV just doesn't hold my attention.

1284
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: I feel like you would like the movie big Fish.

1285
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:50,479
Speaker 3: I loved a big Fish.

1286
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: That was great.

1287
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 3: There you go Fish, There you Go, big Fish.

1288
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the album is mystical, magical, rhythmical, radical ride.

1289
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: It's Jason Raz. We're so excited for your eighth studio album,

1290
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: and thank you so much for coming on Frosted Tips.

1291
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: You are gentleman and a scala okay dropped out in

1292
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: your fresh Yeah.

1293
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm definitely not a scholar, but like I.

1294
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: Said, I I enjoy everything that you've done. I love

1295
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 1: how you're using your platform. You're so easy to listen to,

1296
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: and I think you are changing the world in your

1297
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 1: own way, and I appreciate that.

1298
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 3: Wow, thank you so very much.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jason, Well we have to go right now,

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Speaker 1: but I hope you can come back on the show

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Speaker 1: in the future because yeah, we love having you here

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about wonderful behind the scenes with Jason.

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Speaker 3: Love it. Thank you so much. I feel touched, moved

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Speaker 3: and inspired.

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Speaker 1: That's what we try to do here on Frost Tips.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a thing.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: It was so thank you, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: You have a good day.

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Speaker 2: Thank you too. By back.

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Speaker 1: Jason Maratz. What a good guy is so easy to

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Speaker 1: listen to. It so easy, like the rout the last

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Speaker 1: twenty years. Just anytime there's an interview, I just always

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Speaker 1: stop and might listen to him because I know he's

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Speaker 1: going to say something that I'm like, yeah, exactly what

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01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: I think. I just can't He's I can't verbally say

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Speaker 1: it like he does, I.

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Speaker 2: Know, And he's so like, he's so calm, yeah with

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Speaker 2: everything he says, but he's so smart and yeah, a

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Speaker 2: good guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and one of now in the community. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm so jealous got our sexual people. I know I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be but oh it does attracted.

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Speaker 2: To every just everything. But you know, you know, and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you have like twice the that would be amazing.

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Speaker 2: The fish in the c I know.

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Speaker 1: All right, before we go, we have our We've been

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Speaker 1: we've been teasing this but we haven't done it in

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Speaker 1: a while. But we have your reviews because you know

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Speaker 1: you have to review this show, subscribe rate review. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's some of our favorites from the week.

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Speaker 2: All right, podcast reviews. We've had mainly five stars, people

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Speaker 2: giving six in the comment section. Can you believe? Well?

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Speaker 2: Our first review is from what says Hm Roasted Peanut

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Speaker 2: Dane Cook miscellaneous love that's the title.

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Speaker 1: That's wait, oh I thought that was his screen.

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Speaker 2: Well at first I did too, and I said, Dane Cook,

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Speaker 2: are you roasted peanut? What a big peanuts? Here's your

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01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 2: sixth star. Amidst my generally heavy podcast playlist. It's great

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Speaker 2: to hear behind the scenes stories, embarrassing stuff, songwriting, et cetera.

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01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 2: Great podcast. By the way, I'd love to see Lance

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Speaker 2: interviewed on hot Ones YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: I get that one, oh hot Ones. Yeah the wings

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Speaker 1: I should. I mean, I've been told that twenty million times,

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Speaker 1: so not really twenty lit. I exaggerate, guys, maybe three times,

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Speaker 1: and I really want to do it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you just rounded up.

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Speaker 1: I do a round it off twenty million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ever thought about going on? PS. Turkey sounds like

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Speaker 2: a very pleasant Dane Cook.

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Speaker 1: Oh, oh, you're the Dane Cook.

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01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm the Dane Cook. Well, at least he said I

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Speaker 2: was a pleasant Dane Cook.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know what he sounds like now.

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Speaker 2: Not very pleasant pps. It's nice to hear different kinds

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01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 2: of guests since a lot of the stories are similar,

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01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: and Lanson Turkey bringing a loving, yet inquisitive atmosphere to

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Speaker 2: the podcast interviews.

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Speaker 1: What's that's one of my favorite reviews?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, you're welcome. I mean, yeah, it was a

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01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 2: great review for you. No, I would never give something.

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Speaker 2: We have another one, Whispers Secret Society. That's the name.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 2: Back in the day circa two thousand and two, a

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Speaker 2: girlfriend and I joke that Lance needed a talk show

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01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 2: called I'm Lance Pass and I have an opinion. Well,

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Speaker 2: it never got called that. From Dirty to Daily Pop,

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01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 2: the tips has always been frosted, and I think this

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Speaker 2: is the perfect venue to delve into the unique experience

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Speaker 2: of being a teen idol. I love hearing new stories

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Speaker 2: from some of my favorite stories, well also discovering new

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01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: facets of performers I didn't know as much about. We

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01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 2: are only a few months and I've already gone back

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01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: multiple times, so we listen to certain segments or quotes.

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01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 2: Sharing these stories with fans is truly a gift, but

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01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 2: also hearing the conversations that come out of them give

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01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 2: so much insight into the wild ride it has been

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01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 2: for all of all of you. Being able to talk

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01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 2: about the ups and downs of the journeys has us

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01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 2: listeners truly invested in everyone's futures. So that said, so

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01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: excited to listen every week and continue the adventure forever

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01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 2: Frosted Mary Beth a different one than before.

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Speaker 1: Us swear these are some great reviews.

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Speaker 2: Now we have the less review okay, and it's the

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01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 2: third okay, it better be good. The title is could

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01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 2: not be lamer, and the promising and the review is

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01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 2: a simple sentence. This whole podcast is so pathetic and

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01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: that was by Kahiri. Well, Kahiri, you know what, it's

1390
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: not for everyone. It's not for everyone.

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01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: Now we love your reviews, even the bad one, so

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01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 1: keep them coming. Also, you can stay in touch with

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01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: us on our DMS on Instagram and TikTok go follow

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01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: us there. Our tiktoks have been really fun. They have. Yeah,

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01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: we're starting to, especially on Instagram, share some really fun

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01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: on memes that you are making and it makes me laugh.

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01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: So continue to send us your fun boy band teen

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01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: idol memes because we will post it. And if you

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01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: have any ideas for the show, guests you want to

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01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: see dms, We're there for you. This show is for you.

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Speaker 1: This is a fandom show. All right, guys, That is

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01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: all the show I have for you. Is there anything

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01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: else you would like to say?

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01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: No, I just want to say that it has been

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01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 2: a great show. Okay, you're a great husband.

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01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: You're a great husband.

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01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 2: I just had to get that out there. I needed

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01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 2: it reciprocated.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, that is all the show I have

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01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 1: for you. Thanks so much for listening. Again, rate review, subscribe,

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01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,440
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do. Listen to my other podcast,

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01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: It is the Last Soviet. If you like scripted podcast

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01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 1: and bedtime stories of the Ingle side in those are good.

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01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: Other scripted fun seventies musical Yeah podcast with Really with

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01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 1: Jason Alexander.

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Speaker 2: Come on, it's so good.

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01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: It's really fun, all right, guys, be good to each other,

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01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: don't drink and drive, take care of those animals, and

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01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: we'll see you next time on frost Tips and until then,

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01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 1: stay frosted. Hey, thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram

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01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 1: at Frosted Tips with Lance and Michael Turchinard and at

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01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,759
Speaker 1: Lance Bass for all your pop culture needs

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Speaker 2: And make sure to write a review and leave us

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Speaker 2: five stars six if you can see you next time.