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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show on this Thursday, June thirtieth. Appreciate you

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Speaker 1: joining rolling with us. A lot of news coming down today.

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Speaker 1: We have a Supreme Court decision five four for the

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Speaker 1: wrong side. Unfortunately on the remain in Mexico policy. The

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Speaker 1: Biden administration is able to end it. We will get

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Speaker 1: into the details of it. There's some intricate legal analysis

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Speaker 1: of the Immigration and Nationality Act and the Administrative Procedures Act,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. We'll give you a little bit of that,

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Speaker 1: but bottom line is Biden wants to let I legals

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Speaker 1: into the country and his DHS is doing it and

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Speaker 1: they're just going with it. So we'll get into more

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Speaker 1: of that. They could stop this, and they are choosing

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Speaker 1: to not stop this, and the Supreme Court is now

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Speaker 1: by five four decision, not going to stand in their way.

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Speaker 1: We also going to be joined later on the program

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Speaker 1: by the Attorney General of the State of Arizona, A. G. Bernovich,

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Speaker 1: and also third hour of the program, the Governor of

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Speaker 1: South Dakota, Christy Gnome. A lot going on at her state.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to her about some of the

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Speaker 1: national political stories as well. Now there's so much we

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Speaker 1: oh and of course Biden saying he wants to get

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Speaker 1: rid of the filibuster, and they're gonna the system doesn't

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Speaker 1: work for them, and all of a sudden, the Libs

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Speaker 1: want to overthrow the system or overturn the system or whatever.

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Speaker 1: We'll see where that's going. Clay's got updates from Cinema

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Speaker 1: and Mansion that may put a bit of a damper

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Speaker 1: on the La Revolution, the switch in our government in

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Speaker 1: the Senate, and all the other things they want to do.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get into all of this here shortly. But

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Speaker 1: but first, I was really struck last night by the

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Speaker 1: headlines about what happened on the Upper east Side. As

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm here in New York City. I live

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Speaker 1: and the Upper east Side is the probably the safest neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: It's also generally an expensive neighborhood. Not all of it

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Speaker 1: it's a place you don't see shootings. It's a place

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Speaker 1: you don't really see much in the way of violent

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Speaker 1: crime even when the city is having a bad time

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Speaker 1: of it. And there was a mother with her baby,

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Speaker 1: walking the baby and a stroller, and the mother was

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Speaker 1: going for a walk and a gunman in a hooded

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Speaker 1: sweatshirt came up behind her and executed her with a

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Speaker 1: Lexington Avenue for those of you who know New York City,

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Speaker 1: and this immediately sent a shockway through the city because

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Speaker 1: this is exactly the kind of story that gets everyone's

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Speaker 1: attention as this is how far the security situation, law

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Speaker 1: and order has deteriorated that in a neighborhood like the

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Speaker 1: Upper East Side of New York, where you're generally not

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Speaker 1: seeing as much violent crime, you have an execution in

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Speaker 1: a busy intersection of a mother with a baby. Clay

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Speaker 1: Eric Adams came out last night. He actually went to

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Speaker 1: the scene of the shooting right away, so the mayor

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Speaker 1: really obviously upset a lot of people, upset everyone in

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Speaker 1: also he know that they knew that there were political

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Speaker 1: ramifications from this kind of an incident and here's my

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Speaker 1: basic and we could go through it. My basic theory,

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Speaker 1: Clay is we all know what would actually bring the

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Speaker 1: crime levels down. We actually in New York City ran

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Speaker 1: the experiment of the nineties. We know what would be done. Democrats,

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Speaker 1: for ideological reasons, refused to do it. They just refused

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Speaker 1: to do it. They focus on guns. The focus was

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Speaker 1: not singularly on guns when they turned New York around

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Speaker 1: in nineteen starting in nineteen ninety, the year two thousand,

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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, Buck around two thousand murders

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Speaker 1: a year, all the way down to three hundred. Giuliani

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Speaker 1: so an unbelievable success story in terms of making the

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Speaker 1: That is, random acts of violence are rare. What has

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Speaker 1: become very commonplace Buck, suddenly in New York City is

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Speaker 1: immediately thinks for all three of those stories that could

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Speaker 1: Why did this all happen? Why is the murder rate

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Speaker 1: fewer criminal laws. The criminal justice system is racist. This

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Speaker 1: they were in some bad shoots like nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: These people, the journals, the Democrats, the police commissioner under

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Speaker 1: his one hundred shoplifting arrest. It was like the lib

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Speaker 1: This is a mindset. This is an ideology that democrats

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Speaker 1: These are police squads intensively trained in minimal force techniques,

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Speaker 1: McSally in the twenty eighteen election cycle because I'm a

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Speaker 1: People know what I stand for and what I believe,

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Speaker 1: and that's what's gonna that's what's gonna take to beat

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Speaker 1: more than self funders, it's you know, people from California

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Speaker 1: General Bernovich, I don't know how much of a sports

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Speaker 1: fan you are. I am a big sports fan. So

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Speaker 1: you may have seen this news. You may not have.

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Speaker 1: I'm maybe breaking it for you right now. There are

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Speaker 1: reports that UCLA and USC are leaving the PAC twelve

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Speaker 1: Big Ten would be expanding from fourteen to sixteen teams.

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Speaker 1: For those of you out there listening who are sports fans,

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Speaker 1: state of Arizona, Arizona and Arizona State are in the

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve. Do you have any sort of reaction, both

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Speaker 1: right now as we are talking with you. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: I actually because I see the same gaming director at

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Speaker 1: sports gambling. So I actually supported New Jersey's lawsuit against

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Speaker 1: sports gambling. Yeah, that was a thing. I was there,

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Speaker 1: by the way, A. A. G. Bernovich in the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court watching that argument. That's the only Supreme Court argument

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Speaker 1: win for New Jersey striking down PASPA to allow sports gambling.

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Speaker 1: But right background, you join, we joined and supported that lawsuit,

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Speaker 1: And next time I'm at the Supreme Court, you should

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Speaker 1: come as one of my guests. It'll be a lot fun.

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Speaker 1: It'll be fun because you'll be the only other guy

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Speaker 1: in look, and I supported the way of the athletes

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Speaker 1: I do think it's a cartel. And I just look.

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Speaker 1: My initial reaction is my goodness, the big ten When

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Speaker 1: you know. I want to ask you a grippy, a

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Speaker 1: in our number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate all of you hanging out with us. As we

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Speaker 1: roll into a holiday weekend. Maybe some news in the

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Speaker 1: world of sports gonna drop this evening. A little bit

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Speaker 1: of a teaser there. If you're a big sports fan,

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Speaker 1: get you popcorn It's gonna be a fun ride later

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Speaker 1: this evening, in my understanding. But for those of you

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Speaker 1: out there that are paying attention to the Joe Biden administration, Buck,

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Speaker 1: what is amazing to me about Joe Biden, and I

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Speaker 1: don't mean an amazing in a good way, is he's

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Speaker 1: constantly coming out and arguing for principles or policies or

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Speaker 1: political agendas that are shot down within ten or fifteen

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Speaker 1: minutes of him coming out and advocating for them. And

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Speaker 1: this happened again. He's in Germany overseas, getting ready to

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Speaker 1: go to saw Arabia and bend the knee and beg

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Speaker 1: for them to produce more oil and gas. And generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: the longstanding American policy has been you don't attack domestic

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Speaker 1: politics overseas because it makes America look weaker to be

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Speaker 1: feuding with domestic politics related issues when we're on the

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Speaker 1: international stage. Biden can barely talk at this point. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know if he recognizes what he said and

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Speaker 1: how awful it registered for many people. But I want

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Speaker 1: to listen to you. I said he was in Germany.

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Speaker 1: I apologize Biden's actually in Spain right now, not that

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Speaker 1: it matters very much one way or the other where

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Speaker 1: he is. But this was today in Madrid, Spain at

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Speaker 1: the NATO's summit. Here was what Joe Biden had to

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Speaker 1: say about the Supreme Court at his press conference. The

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Speaker 1: one thing that has been destabilizing is the outrageous behavior

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Speaker 1: of the Supreme Court of the United States, an overruling

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Speaker 1: only Roe v. Wade, but essentially challenging the right to privacy.

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Speaker 1: We've been a leader in the world in terms of

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Speaker 1: personal rights and privacy rights, and it is a mistake,

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Speaker 1: in my view, for the Supreme Court to do what

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Speaker 1: it did. Biden then built on this and argued that

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Speaker 1: he is now in favor of removing the filibuster for

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Speaker 1: purposes of enshrining Roe v. Wade as a federal right

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Speaker 1: through congressional action. In order to do that, however, his

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Speaker 1: own party would have to support him. And almost immediately

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Speaker 1: upon Biden saying, Hey, we need to change the filibuster

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Speaker 1: rules to enshrine Roevie Wade as federal law, Kirsten Cinema

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Speaker 1: from Arizona and Joe Mansion from West Virginia, two Democrats

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Speaker 1: that have consistently opposed much of Biden's agenda, said they

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Speaker 1: still will not change any of their positions on the filibuster.

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Speaker 1: So enshrining roev Wade as a federal right and eliminating

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Speaker 1: the filibuster for purposes of this issue, it appears, is

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Speaker 1: not going to happen. Your thoughts, buck, as you saw

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Speaker 1: all of this play out this morning, and just blow

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Speaker 1: up one more time in front of Joe Biden. Isn't

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Speaker 1: it amazing that mister unity, Joe Biden promised to bring

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Speaker 1: the country together, is talking about a destabilizing Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: decision and by doing so, destabilizing things. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is a perfect bidenism. He acts like he is a

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Speaker 1: savior or defender of the system, when in fact he's

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Speaker 1: the one kicking at the load bearing walls, taking a

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Speaker 1: few swings with a sledgehammer because his polls are in

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Speaker 1: the dumpster and his party is failing and we can

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Speaker 1: all see it and we all know it. So what

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Speaker 1: does he do? The usual rights takes shots at the

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Speaker 1: other side, the same talking points you've heard before. Also,

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Speaker 1: this right to privacy. I guarantee Joe Biden didn't actually

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Speaker 1: read the Supreme Court decision. Last guarante, there's no he's

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Speaker 1: a he's a quote lawyer, right, he went to law

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Speaker 1: school fifty years ago. This guy is not somebody who's

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Speaker 1: who's up on the latest Church's prudent. I think finished

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Speaker 1: the last in his class at Syracuse. Yes, I'm a

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Speaker 1: distinguished I think it might have been second or third

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Speaker 1: to last to blow ranking in Syracuse, not blowing anyone

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Speaker 1: away with his collection skills, even in his in his twenties. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: and that was Syracuse law school in like what the seventies,

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Speaker 1: early the seven sixties, he's old man, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I kid, yeah, I would think it would have to

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Speaker 1: be the six sixties. So poire being Joe Biden's got nothing.

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Speaker 1: But I also think this the right to privacy? What

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Speaker 1: this was the concoction, This was the fabrication that all

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Speaker 1: the row was built on and was just completely dismantled.

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Speaker 1: What is that right exactly? Did you have a right

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Speaker 1: to privacy to abuse your spouse because it's behind closed

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Speaker 1: doors in your home? No, you do not. Do you

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Speaker 1: have a right to abuse your children because a right

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Speaker 1: to privacy Joe Biden talking point and the whole regime

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Speaker 1: that Biden has around him, that that's collapsing along with

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Speaker 1: the talking points just shows you, Clay, how desperate they are.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I said to this before Gavin Newsom is

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Speaker 1: now they're just they're just money machine goes send everybody checks,

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Speaker 1: you know, just start sending people checks in California so

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Speaker 1: they don't turn on your party that in a period

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Speaker 1: of high inflation. Mane that's the craziest thing that California's

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Speaker 1: solution to inflation, I'm not We're not even making this

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Speaker 1: up is to send twenty three million I believe it

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Speaker 1: is households a thousand and fifty dollars. So the way

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Speaker 1: for the government to solve inflation, I can guarantee you

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Speaker 1: is not by the government giving people more money. Buck.

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Speaker 1: There are two things that jump out to me about this,

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Speaker 1: aside from the back the fact that Joe Biden's own

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Speaker 1: party won't support his policy. Number one, this to me

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Speaker 1: means that the abortion issue is not registering with voters, okay.

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is if it were

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Speaker 1: registering with voters on a high intensity level, they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be desperate to try to enshrine it in law right

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Speaker 1: now while they have control of Congress. They would use

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Speaker 1: support him. So I don't think that the abortion issue

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Speaker 1: is really registering like Democrats hoped it would. Second part,

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Speaker 1: if this were to occur, as we have seen with

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices sooner or later, what happens is abortion

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Speaker 1: would become tax policy. And let me explain what I

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Speaker 1: mean by that. When a Democrat or a Republican president

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Speaker 1: comes into office and typically has strong majorities in the

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Speaker 1: House or Senate, what do they do. They change tax policy,

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Speaker 1: the tax rates on capital gains because of different views

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Speaker 1: of how the government should grow the economy. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Republicans are right, all of the data reflects that when

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Speaker 1: you stifle growth with high tax rates, you end up

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Speaker 1: choking out so much growth. But you're constantly shifting the

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Speaker 1: tax policy based on whose in positions of power at

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Speaker 1: that time. If this were to happen, Buck, I think

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Speaker 1: what would happen is abortion would constantly be shifting back

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Speaker 1: and forth on a federal level, because when Republicans got

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Speaker 1: control of the House incident and the White House, they

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Speaker 1: would pass laws that gave states the right or they

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Speaker 1: would try to put past their own federal legislation, and

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Speaker 1: so you'd constantly be swinging from one direction to another.

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Speaker 1: And it would basically turn abortion into the tax policy,

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Speaker 1: where you're one eight years policy it's one way, and

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Speaker 1: then eight years later it's changing the other direct. And

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Speaker 1: of course this would speaking of destabilize, as Biden said,

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Speaker 1: this would really you stabilize any faith that people have.

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Speaker 1: It would be a foundational rule of law, right because

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Speaker 1: to your point, Clay, okay, the top tax rate federally

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Speaker 1: thirty nine percent, thirty five percent, all right, the only

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Speaker 1: certainties in life, death and taxes. Right, we know we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be paying taxes. If you are thirty five percent guy,

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Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be last year. Now you're thirty nine

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Speaker 1: percent guy. You know, no, it's annoying. But the shift

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Speaker 1: that you're talking about now that would happen in law

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Speaker 1: would be, well, what someone what let's say, a medical

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Speaker 1: doctor who provided an abortion for somebody did a year ago,

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Speaker 1: is now considered murder. But they won't they can't after

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Speaker 1: the fact, you know, they can't write in that prosecution

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Speaker 1: after the constantly. And so you're gonna be now having

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Speaker 1: people who say the law now says what I did

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Speaker 1: a year ago is murder and I can go to prison.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think we have Governor Noman. Later, I

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Speaker 1: think it's South Dakota. You could face up to a

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Speaker 1: life sentence for an abortion, I believe, or maybe it's

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Speaker 1: twenty five years that well, we'll ask about this. But

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Speaker 1: in some of the states, these trigger laws are very serious.

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Speaker 1: So then you have the federal law could come in

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Speaker 1: and say, oh no, it's fine, everyone has a right

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Speaker 1: to this for all three trimesters, and then Republicans take

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Speaker 1: charge and it's oh no, actually you can go to

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Speaker 1: prison for decades for this. Cycles of that will destroy

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Speaker 1: all faith in the rule of law. And everybody should

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Speaker 1: should understand that. We know that states have different laws

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Speaker 1: and they stay with those laws. The federal government coming

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Speaker 1: in to make all fifty states keep shifting, it's just untenable.

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Speaker 1: That's why this idea they had of setting up abortion

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Speaker 1: clinics in national parks was what do they think happens

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Speaker 1: when Republicans take control of the Congress. It's also emblematic

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Speaker 1: I think of the craziness that we're in. If you

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Speaker 1: allow an exemption to the filibuster for purposes of abortion,

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Speaker 1: Republicans are certainly going to first of all respond in

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Speaker 1: kind on abortion. Eventually, once you create these exceptions, the

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Speaker 1: filibuster's gone. Yeah, but Democrats are such a bunch of

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Speaker 1: whiny little prats on this. They wanted to use the

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Speaker 1: exception of the filibuster for HR one for voting rights

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Speaker 1: so important they're constantly trying to craft these Everything they

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Speaker 1: want is so important that it's the one time break

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Speaker 1: in the filibuster. It's seriously, it's like we're negotiating with

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Speaker 1: little children who are being terrorists. It also is just

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Speaker 1: going to create a huge mess. So the end result,

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Speaker 1: and Biden had to know this buck, is that Cinema

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Speaker 1: and Mansion aren't changing their positions and barring some totally

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Speaker 1: unexpected Republican support for this filibuster change, then what Biden

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Speaker 1: said in Spain earlier today was essentially wiped out as

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Speaker 1: a policy imperative within twenty minutes almost of him saying it,

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Speaker 1: meaning that he's really just saying this to try to

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Speaker 1: placate the left wing in his party, knowing that the

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, the practical reality of it occurring is

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Speaker 1: virtually zero. I think it's also bluster from Biden, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is just what else is he going

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Speaker 1: to say? What has he delivered? For the left wing

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Speaker 1: base other than a lot of inflation. People don't remember

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Speaker 1: the checks they were getting six months ago, a year ago, right,

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Speaker 1: that whole? Any goodwill from the inflation machinery that he

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Speaker 1: put in place, that's gone. Yeah, that's why. Now what

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Speaker 1: is he offering. He's offering jan six, which we'll talk

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Speaker 1: more about the lads with that later on. And you

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Speaker 1: know what this, I think it's such a well said argument,

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Speaker 1: and this is one that I believe Republicans need to

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Speaker 1: Senate backing him. And not only did he fail in

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Speaker 1: The only reason it's not worse is because members of

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Speaker 1: he wanted to do. Democrats were a disaster, but they

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Speaker 1: were only protected from being what's even worse than a disaster?

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Speaker 1: A cataclysm? I don't I don't even know. It's a

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Speaker 1: good question. What is a worse word than a disaster?

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Speaker 1: The only reason it's not an apocalyptic is because they

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Speaker 1: actually opposed what he was trying to do. Buck and

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Speaker 1: I don't think Republicans are making that argument strongly enough,

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Speaker 1: own what I wanted to get done. No, if you had,

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Speaker 1: if he had actually gotten what he wanted, and all

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Speaker 1: federal government could do to improve situation, to improve a

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Speaker 1: situation in a material way, to bring down the cost

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Speaker 1: increase economic growth, to secure the border, to bring down

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Speaker 1: violent crime across the country. All the things that would

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Speaker 1: work to do that Democrats are ideologically opposed to. They

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Speaker 1: don't like the solutions, so we keep suffering as a result.

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Speaker 1: He told us all buck we were going to have

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Speaker 1: and the only thing that stopped that from happening was

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. I'm not done with Fauchi Clay. That's

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Speaker 1: a good place to stop here, because we'll come back there.

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Speaker 1: They're folks, they're trying to rev up the COVID machinery again.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you they're not done. Oh you're one hundred

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Speaker 1: Edward to the Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Joining

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Speaker 1: us now the Governor of South Dakota, Christinome, Governor. Great

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Speaker 1: to have you back. Thanks for being with us. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: it's fantastic to be with you guys. How you doing today.

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Speaker 1: We're good and we know you got a new book out,

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Speaker 1: not my first rodeo. We'll talk you about that in

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Speaker 1: a second. I just wanted to get your response because

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Speaker 1: I know South Dakota has taken a very strong stand

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Speaker 1: as a state on the life issue. I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: heard earlier today over in Europe Biden trashing the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court saying it's destabilizing. What do you think about our

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Speaker 1: commander in chief saying that about our Supreme Court overseas?

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Speaker 1: And also, what is the state of protect life right

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Speaker 1: now in your home state, Governor of South Dakota. Well,

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Speaker 1: number one, I would say every single one of his

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Speaker 1: policies is destabilizing the United States of America. It's extremely

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Speaker 1: hypocritical to be going after the Supreme Court, especially overseas,

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Speaker 1: when everything he is doing is weakening America. And again

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Speaker 1: with that statement, So his timing is bad, but so

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Speaker 1: is every one of his instincts. And I guess we

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Speaker 1: just try to muddle our way through and till we

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Speaker 1: can get new leaders in place. And it's not very

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Speaker 1: long until we get the chance to do that. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to life in South Dakota,

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Speaker 1: as far as abortion rights, you know, South Dakota back

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and five passed a trigger law that said,

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Speaker 1: in the event that Roe is overturned, it would become

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Speaker 1: illegal to perform an abortion in our state except to

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Speaker 1: save the life of a mother. So that is the

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Speaker 1: law of the land today. And I'm grateful that South

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Speaker 1: Dakota recognizes that every life is precious. I think that

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, by fixing this wrong decision that was

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Speaker 1: made almost fifty years ago, has finally done what we've

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Speaker 1: always recognized was a true place. This discussion should happen.

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Speaker 1: It should happen at the state level, It should happen

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Speaker 1: by people that are elected close to the public, near home.

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Speaker 1: So it's the right thing to do, and I'm glad.

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of where South Dakota is. I'm sure they'll

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Speaker 1: continue to have discussions here, but today I'm grateful for

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Speaker 1: our stand for life. Governor Noham. We had Governor Abbott

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Speaker 1: on earlier this week and he was talking about the

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Speaker 1: disastrous policies as it pertains to energy that are being

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Speaker 1: embraced by the Biden White House as the governor of

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Speaker 1: South Dakota. For people who may not see it on

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Speaker 1: the statewide level, what has Joe Biden meant to energy

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Speaker 1: production in South Dakota? How much has he hurt? Well,

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Speaker 1: we don't produce energy really very much in South Dakota.

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Speaker 1: We have a few rigs, but North Dakota most of

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Speaker 1: the oil. We got Mount Rushmore, which we're happy for.

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Speaker 1: We love we love Mount Rushmore and what it means

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Speaker 1: to the country. But you know, we are a high

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Speaker 1: demand energy state, so we have you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: very cold in the winter, it's hot in the summer,

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Speaker 1: and it's a long ways to drive anywhere, so we have, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, incredible demands. And when he affects this kind

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Speaker 1: of energy policy and drives up the cost the way

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Speaker 1: that he has it affects every every single family. It's

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Speaker 1: not an option for salt Dakotans to not drive to

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Speaker 1: not buy gas. Oftentimes their work is thirty to forty

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Speaker 1: miles away, their school or activities for their kids, or

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Speaker 1: twenty to thirty miles. We just have to go anywhere

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Speaker 1: and get in a car to go get groceries, go

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Speaker 1: to the doctor. So it impacts rural states more and

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Speaker 1: our budgets than it does these urban areas that have

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Speaker 1: other options. First of all, apologies to the Dakotas where

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Speaker 1: we're big and I now am never going to get

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Speaker 1: elected anywhere. I know my email, I'm gonna be destroyed

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Speaker 1: now for mixing up the Dakotas. But Governor, your book,

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Speaker 1: I saw you interviewed on Fox News talking about the

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Speaker 1: impact of your father's unexpected death and what it meant

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Speaker 1: for you, and I thought it was such a compelling

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Speaker 1: story that you are telling take us into what you

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Speaker 1: wanted to bring to the nation with this book and

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Speaker 1: what that was like for you as a young person

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Speaker 1: to deal with well, you know, frankly, I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people the first time they heard my name

856
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: was during COVID when Elizabeth Warren and Rachel Maddow and

857
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Speaker 1: the left were on national TV night after night kicking

858
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Speaker 1: me in the head for all the decisions I was

859
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Speaker 1: making in South Dakota. They called me dangerous and reckless.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure people from across the country thought, who

861
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Speaker 1: is this lady in South Dakota and you know the boy?

862
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: You know, she just showed up on the scene. But

863
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: that's not true. This isn't my first rodeo. I've had

864
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Speaker 1: a long life of running businesses and challenges and serving

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Speaker 1: in the legislature in Congress, and it made me who

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Speaker 1: I am. So this book is about politics, but it's

867
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Speaker 1: also about my life lived so far. So losing my

868
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: dad changed everything. You know. My goal growing up was

869
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Speaker 1: to be a farmer and rancher. He was my best friend.

870
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Speaker 1: He was a cowboy, he was tough, and my favorite

871
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Speaker 1: thing in the whole world to do is chase cows

872
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Speaker 1: or go sit in a tree stands. So what I

873
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Speaker 1: do today is very, very different than what I had planned.

874
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Speaker 1: Anybody in my family had planned, but when he died

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Speaker 1: at the age of forty nine, we got hit with

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Speaker 1: death taxes and I came quit college, took over the

877
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Speaker 1: operation as a general manager, and it made me angry.

878
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: I could not believe we had a tragedy. All of

879
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, I owed the federal government hundreds and hundreds

880
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars that I couldn't pay. I had

881
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Speaker 1: to take out loans. I couldn't even get a bank

882
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Speaker 1: to finance it. I had to get a cup well

883
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Speaker 1: wealthy farmers to loan me some money. But it took

884
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Speaker 1: me ten years to pay off that debt. And I

885
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: just started showing up at meetings passionate about tax reform.

886
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: So that's how I got involved in government and politics.

887
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: My dad had always said, you don't complain about things, Christie,

888
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Speaker 1: you fix them, and more than anything, I wanted to

889
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Speaker 1: make him proud, even though he wasn't going to be

890
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: around to see how I turned out. We're speaking to

891
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Speaker 1: South Dakota Governor Christy Noom. She has a new book out,

892
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: not my first Rodeo, Lessons from the Heartland, just out

893
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 1: this week, Well more for your Governor. We're heading into

894
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: what looks like a hopefully a pretty serious red wave.

895
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: How are you seeing it from your perspective? And what

896
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: is your at a point at a point right now

897
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: where people in your home state, all across the country

898
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 1: are having a tough time paying not just for gas,

899
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: for food, paying the mortgage, paying the rent. What's your

900
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: case for optimism right now? I mean, why should people

901
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: stay engaged when they might be feeling a little disaffected? Well,

902
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: I think the first time we have so many people

903
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: that are paying attention. You know, we we have folks

904
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: that never cared much about government and politics that, because

905
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: of what happened during the pandemic, now are sitting up

906
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: and saying, you know, what is the role of government

907
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: in our lives? What do we want the government telling

908
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: us to do and not do? And recognizing that what

909
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: Biden is doing is destroying America as we know it.

910
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: So I think that is a reason to be optimistic.

911
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing harder than getting people motivated that

912
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 1: don't care. Now people care, they care passionately, and they're

913
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: going to be engaged now. Our job is elected leaders

914
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Speaker 1: and as public officials, is to make sure that we're

915
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Speaker 1: sharing not just what we think, but why we believe

916
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Speaker 1: what we believe, you know, and the history of this country,

917
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Speaker 1: the constitution, the role of government in our lives as

918
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: our founders intended it. So you know, it's not a

919
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: time to get lazy and talk in sound bites and

920
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: just blow people up for an instant headline. We have

921
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: to start really recognizing that folks are hungry for information

922
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: and they want a way of life that our parents

923
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: had growing up, and that they're ready to do some

924
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 1: work to make sure we get it. You mentioned Mount

925
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: Rushmore a little bit earlier, Governor Noham, and so I'll

926
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Speaker 1: at least get that right for the Dakota crew. But

927
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Speaker 1: I thought one of the most powerful speeches Donald Trump

928
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: gave during his presidency was there in front of Mount Rushmore,

929
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: with you defending American exceptionalism in American history. You obviously

930
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: have had a much bigger profile in the years since,

931
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: certainly rolling through COVID and beyond. Do you hope that

932
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: Donald Trump runs for reelection in twenty twenty four a

933
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: second term and are you at all interested in the

934
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Speaker 1: national political landscape, potentially as a vice president for him

935
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Speaker 1: or potentially running for president yourself. Well, listen, I talked

936
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: to the president quite often. He's going to run. I

937
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody to can beat him in a primary,

938
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 1: no matter what they say. He's got an extreme group

939
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: of loyal people, a large group of people that support

940
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: him across this country, which is remarkable, and I just

941
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: don't think anybody else can beat him in a Republican primary.

942
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: Maybe a general election will be challenging, but I think

943
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: if he puts the team together that shows people that

944
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: he wants to govern and fix what's broken with this

945
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: country and fix it as soon as possible, I think

946
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: that'll be very, very powerful. Who is announced, who his

947
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: attorney general is going to be, his Secretary of Stage,

948
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: his vice president. All of that is important because this

949
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: man knows good people, he knows tough people. He also

950
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: understands tackling a problem and getting it fixed. So if

951
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: he runs, I'll certainly support him. South Dakota Governor Christy

952
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: Noum the book, Folks, not my first rodeo. Lessons from

953
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: the heart Land out this week. Governor, thanks for coming on.

954
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: Good luck to you. No you guys too, have a

955
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: wonderful day. Appreciate it. That is Governor Christy Noam of

956
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Speaker 1: South Dakota, one of my favorite states in the Union.

957
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: I thought you were going down me because it's so easy. Man.

958
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: There's so much oil in North Dakota. Yeah, so it

959
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: can you know, you get I will tell you know what.

960
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: I shouldn't even admit this, but occasionally occasionally I get,

961
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, I get a city in the Carolinas a

962
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: little bit much, and I love the Carola. I love

963
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: the Carolinas, so I can nift on the Dakotas before

964
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: I did it in it's a very Yankee thing. I'm

965
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: getting groans all over Charlotte and Charleston right now. But anyway,

966
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: I should know better on the Dakotas we had. I

967
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: screwed it up in sports talk radio once, and the

968
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Speaker 1: Dakota people are very nice, but you get North and

969
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: South Dakota mixed up and they're ready to go to war.

970
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you know, I don't really blame them. I

971
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: got spanked by in an email by a just to

972
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Speaker 1: be clear, by a Nevada, a Nevada listener who explained

973
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Speaker 1: to me that everyone in New York area needs to

974
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Speaker 1: stop saying Nevada. And it was like a long and

975
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Speaker 1: I know, you know, I never forgot. I think I

976
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: still screw that one up. I'm not as good on

977
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Speaker 1: pronunciations in general. I just I'm awful at it. But

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979
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Speaker 1: Maybe if I'd gone to Hillsdale College, I'd be better

981
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Speaker 1: at knowing the difference between North and South Dakota and

982
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Speaker 1: not screwing up who has all the oil and gas

983
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