1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington, 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: Well, hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It. 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 3: Crew, and welcome to another episode of Call It What 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: it Is, What it Is? 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 4: What it Is? 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: With a really good guest. 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: Today we do a lot of singing at the beginning. Yeah, 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: we should have done our own jingle. I really think 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: we should have. No, I mean, it would instantly go 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: to number one and then we be on tour and 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: it would just be really hard to do. 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 4: We don't have time, we don't have tw Wait. 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: A second, what's happening where your voice sounds different today? 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Well, it does sound a little. 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 4: More sexual, that's what we're asking. 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: Well it's a little croaky, actually, Sky and I blame 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: Space Mountain because. 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: I wrote that a few todays. Yes I did. 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: It's that time of year. How many times a year 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: do you do this? Only once? 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: I go once? 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: A ye, tell him what it is? 24 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 4: Go to Disneyland when it's Halloween time. I love it 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 4: when those villains take over the park. Look at my 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 4: T shirt. I'm in fully in. I've got. 27 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: Your voice. 28 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, still my voice. I was screaming on those rides. 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: It replaced it with a full heart. Though full heart. 30 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: It's funny. You like spooky time at Disneyland. I like 31 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: the holidays at Disneyland. 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 4: Do you you know what? 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 3: I did it one time because my birthday is in December, right, 34 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: so I did it one time. 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 4: But it's not I don't know. Maybe I need to 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 4: read you a December. 37 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: A little fake snow, a little Santa sweating, a little 38 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: sweaty Santa on a float, sweat Santa. 39 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: What is he? 40 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: Is he on a float? 41 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: Is he? 42 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 43 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: I did? 44 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean when I was there, Yeah, he was on 45 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: a float and he was waving and there was a lot. 46 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: I was full. I was filled with the Christmas spirit 47 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: at at Disneyland. I didn't see that. It's not I 48 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: got I got in a little bit of I didn't 49 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: get in trouble, but I definitely My mother had a 50 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: hmm about an episode we did. 51 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: Okay, tell me because by the way, you also do 52 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 4: a hmmm mm hmmm. 53 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: I do I get my hm. 54 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: So Mama Capshaw did a m was our Well. 55 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: You know, here's the thing about starting being on a 56 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: podcast is that you know there's going to be people 57 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: who know you really well, who are listening, and even 58 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: people who know you really well, who might have, you know, 59 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: grown you and their bodies and then delivered you into 60 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: the world. Here things that make them go mm hmm. 61 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: What was what was? 62 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: Now I'm interested? What was the Mama Capshaw? 63 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: Wow, it was? 64 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: It was? It was during our episode with Zoe about 65 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: sexuality and all all the things, and she was hmmm 66 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: surprised to hear me report that I grew up in 67 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: a Catholic culture. Really given that our home is a 68 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: Jewish home. Well, she was like, wait, hmm hmmm. And 69 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: and I felt like, actually it was funny because I thought, 70 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: you know what, I totally understand why she was going 71 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: hm hm and what the question was. And it was 72 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: when I was talking about the origins and like how 73 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: I feel about sexuality, and when I reported like having 74 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: grown up in a Catholic culture that was when I 75 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: was younger, like when I was younger, younger, and just 76 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: the first idea of sex came about. I was like, oh, 77 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: I feel informed by having you know, grown up in this, 78 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: you know in this in this family that goes to 79 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: church on Sundays and and you know all the things 80 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: that came along with it, that being said then in 81 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: my teenage years. Yes, I absolutely was in a Jewish family, 82 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: so I kind of I have a foot in both 83 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: in both both in both cultures and homes. 84 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, interesting, and they were both equally very influential, right, 85 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 5: like because religion and culture and customs are He's part 86 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 5: of who we are and how we're how we're grown, 87 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 5: and how we're developed. 88 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: I love that. Like, so that was our Dildo Dutchess episode. 89 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: So all the things we said in there. 90 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the one. 91 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: She was like, he's like Catholic? 92 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: What not? The not the how do we use. 93 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 4: This in the butt in the She's like, hmm, that's 94 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 4: the texture getting. 95 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: We do need to have Mama Capshaw on the show. 96 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 3: We need know for sure we do. First she can 97 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 3: pick the subject. I think, yes, yes, she needs to 98 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: pick the subject. Maybe we should have her own for 99 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: parenting and see, oh see what you guys have to say. 100 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 4: Maybe you have differences in your parenting. 101 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, would be kind of interesting. 102 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 1: It's always so hard because you never stopped being someone's daughter. 103 00:04:55,320 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: And so for me, there's an equal parts. Mother knows best, 104 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: like I so deeply respect everything she has to say 105 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: and her experiences and the some of them and how 106 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: she can help in so many ways. But then there's 107 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: that you know, teenage part of me that's like, you 108 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: don't know, you don't. 109 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, what are you talking about? 110 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 4: Mom? 111 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: You don't know nothing. Yeah, you don't know, you don't 112 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: know nothing, mom. Yeah, let's talk a little bit about 113 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: who we have coming on today. 114 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you've noticed, but my hair 115 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: isn't a big blowout today. 116 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: Oh yes, and it did, and it's on theme for 117 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: our guests. Actually, ooh, tell me more. 118 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: Well, we've finally done it. We have finally done it. 119 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: Everybody has been asking us to have someone from Gray's 120 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: Anatomy main cast member on the show, and we Who 121 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: do we have coming on today? 122 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: We have the lovely, the talented, the kind, the generous, 123 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: the smart, gorgeous, amazing. There's a lot more I could 124 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 1: go for, but you're just gonna say it. Sarah Drew. 125 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: Sarah Drew, Yes. 126 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: We do. 127 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: Captner. I blew out my hair. 128 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 3: April Kipna style. It's still not a you can't recreate 129 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: a Kiptner. 130 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: She had some bouncy waves she did. 131 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 3: You know what's funny is when I got on the show. 132 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 3: I was like, I saw her hair and I was like, 133 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: oh my god, can I Oh great, Like I can 134 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: get hair like that. 135 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: And they're like, no, no, no, no, You're gonna. 136 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: Be in a bun for the next thirteen years because 137 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 3: that that's the Kipner and we make sure that only 138 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: Kipna has the Kipna. 139 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: She's got some good hair, she's got some great hair. Okay, 140 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: let's just bring her in because I can't wait to 141 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: see her. 142 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's bring the family in. 143 00:06:53,839 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: Sarah Drew, welcome to call it what it is, holy. 144 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: What it is. 145 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: See I can get we can get hurt of sing 146 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: too exactly. 147 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: We're talking about how you sing a lot on this podcast, Erarah, 148 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: and we're like, we can't. 149 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: We should have done our own jingle, but we decided 150 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 4: we would have gone. 151 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: It would have been number one. 152 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 6: It would have been a number one hit, and I 153 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 6: feel like it could have made headlines and you should 154 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 6: totally do. 155 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: It straight to the tire with her. 156 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: That's it. 157 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: That music money. 158 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: We would have peaked the jingle money. 159 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 4: It's the the jingle money. 160 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: Okay. 161 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: So before you came in, we were saying, the fans 162 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: have been begging for someone main cast member from the show, 163 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: and then first, yes, first, you're the first one. 164 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel so honored. 165 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: Thank you guys. 166 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: We are so honored. We're so honored to have We're 167 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: gonna have so much fun. 168 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: And we asked and then we threw it out there 169 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: into the grays Verse, into the fandom, and we said 170 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: that you're coming on the show, and. 171 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: We just people got bated, they're pumped. I mean, it 172 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: wasn't planes flying over a studio or anything, but it 173 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: was pretty darn close. Yeah. 174 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: Just how many people do you think. 175 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 6: Can say that they've had a flame up a flane, 176 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,559 Speaker 6: a plane fly overhead with their names on it writing. 177 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: They're not very many people that can say. 178 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: I think you guys need to tell that story because 179 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: maybe people don't know what you're exactly you're referring to. 180 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you go Sarah. 181 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 6: Okay, So the news broke that Arizona and April would 182 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 6: be no longer than that, and the fans went bananas 183 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 6: in the most incredible love Bomby kind of way. And 184 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 6: there was this one girl, I think her name is 185 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 6: Lindsay because she visited set like the year two years 186 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 6: before and took and like hung out with me and 187 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 6: Jesse and I have pictures with her and her dad. 188 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: And like she's a fan, and she. 189 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 6: Organized the whole plane thing, so she raw lead all 190 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 6: the fans to like raise money. 191 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: And then she reached out, I think to you, Jessica. 192 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, that's yeah, that's ringing a bell. 193 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 6: I think she reached out to you just to make 194 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 6: sure we were both gonna like it needed to fly 195 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 6: when both of us. 196 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: Were on set during our lunch break. 197 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't think I believed it though. I think I was, like, 198 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I got this message, but I don't. 199 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 200 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: So then all of a sudden we were there and 201 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: it was like a blue you couldn't script about our 202 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: or more beautiful day. It was like a blue bird day, 203 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: like blue, blank, gorgeous skies, and all of a sudden, 204 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: this plane goes above and there's skywriting a skywriter. 205 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: Oh my god, wait, it wasn't a banner skywriting just kidding. 206 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: I don't remember things. Well. 207 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 6: It was a sign that said we love you, Jessica 208 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 6: Capshaw and Sarah Drew written like a huge plane. 209 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 2: Lying a flag behind it, and they circled for the 210 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: entire hour. 211 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 6: Like lunch break, they got the moneysword and around around 212 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 6: Prospect Studios. 213 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys realized that when I leave, there's not 214 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: going to be a flea that flies by holding. 215 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 4: Holding the tiniest stamp of a banner for me. 216 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: Can I tell you? 217 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: So? 218 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 6: I got like the aftermath of this being fired from 219 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 6: our family moment. I wound up having to do a 220 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 6: bunch of interviews and walk a bunch of red carpets 221 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 6: because the the web series that I had directed was 222 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 6: nominated for an Emmy. 223 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: So literally like three months. 224 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 6: After getting fired, I was walking the carbet for Grace Anatomy. 225 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's one of those. 226 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: Trippy your life. 227 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, trippy industry moments. 228 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: Could be trippy, but the thing, but this is what 229 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: I wanted to get at. 230 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 6: I was like doing a lot of interviews and everybody 231 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 6: wanted to know, like, how did it feel whatever? And 232 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 6: of course, the one sound bite that everybody took and 233 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 6: was plastered on all the headlines that was picked up 234 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 6: was Sarah Likin's getting fired to attending her own funeral. 235 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: Oh stop, that's actually a great quote. 236 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 6: And what I was trying to describe was like were 237 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 6: unceremoniously let go in a way that felt really mean 238 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 6: and unjust, and because of that, the outpouring of love 239 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 6: was ormous that it was like you were sitting there 240 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 6: watching people say all the things that they love about you. 241 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, did yeah when you I have a question when 242 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: you guys came because you've both came. 243 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: Back to the show, does it feel like coming home? 244 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely feel like. 245 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: Yes, But I have no. 246 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 6: Attachment to it at all, So I think, so there's 247 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 6: peace where when I was on the show. When when 248 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 6: you're on the show, you know, you never know what's 249 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 6: going to happen. You never know if they're going to 250 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 6: lose interest in your storyline, or if you piss off 251 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 6: the wrong person, then something's going to happen, Like you 252 00:11:59,040 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 6: don't know. 253 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: But when I've just popped back in to. 254 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 6: Say hello, I have zero anxiety and I don't need 255 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 6: anything from anybody on that set anymore. They're not responsible 256 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 6: for my livelihood anymore. They're not responsible for my success 257 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 6: or my joy. So like it feels very very freeing 258 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 6: to pop back in because I'm. 259 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: Like, hey, this is a fun spot to come visit. 260 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: When I heard you just say that, I'm thinking about 261 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: when you first came, because when I've been thinking about 262 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: you so much because we were going to be here today, 263 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: and I was thinking that, you know, Grace is known 264 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: for just having these incredible character arcs and these journeys 265 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: for these for these characters. Right, you, in particular, I think, 266 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: really started in one place. And I mean, obviously you're 267 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: still ongoing because you're still alive and could go back 268 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: any minute, but you've you are in a far different 269 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: place now. So when you first came, what was that like? 270 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: And did you what was your story did you come? 271 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: Because the joke is that I don't remember anything, evidently, 272 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: just remember anything, don't remember anything. 273 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 4: I actually had to tell her she was on the show. 274 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 6: Yeah I think there's a clip of you not knowing 275 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 6: that my character was with Jesse. 276 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 277 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: No, she didn't. She didn't know. Oh yeah, there is that. 278 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: But she also thought that we came on in the 279 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: same intern class. She was like, hey, you were Jessica 280 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: and Sarah just show and I was like, no, I 281 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: knew you were with Jesse. 282 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: I never said that they were not together. 283 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 6: Okay, then I think it was this I think I 284 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 6: mean bad, but I'm not think I think it was 285 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 6: that have eyeballs and ears. 286 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 2: But yeah, we were talking. 287 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 3: Did you know when you got cast, did you know 288 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: like you and Jesse were going to be this massive showmance. 289 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: Oh girl, guys. 290 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 6: I I was offered a two episode. 291 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: Dark Yeah, that's this is the story I want to 292 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: get at. 293 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: This is the story. 294 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 6: I came on to get fired and I saw what 295 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 6: I saw episode I had just done a pilot with Shanda, 296 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 6: and she said, want to come play for two episodes. 297 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: In fact, here's a funny story. 298 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 6: I was originally offered the role of the woman that 299 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 6: George saved and got hit by a truck, and she 300 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 6: had an episode the end of one season, end of 301 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 6: season five, top of season six where you the double 302 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 6: O seven. 303 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that whole thing I was supposed to. 304 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 6: I was originally offered that just to do a two episode, 305 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 6: come play with us for two episodes, and I couldn't 306 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 6: do it because of a scheduling conflict. So after so 307 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 6: then yeah, So then coming into season six, she was like, hey, hey, 308 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 6: are you free for these four weeks or whatever to 309 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 6: do these two episodes? 310 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, sure, that sounds like fun. 311 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 6: So I came to get fired knowing that all three 312 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 6: of the other interns were all on a series regular trajectory. 313 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: I was just coming to leave. 314 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 6: And so I got my character got fired, and then 315 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 6: I went and I did like mad Men and Glee 316 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 6: and like super Natural. 317 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: Because as aforementioned, Sarah Trew has been on every television shows, 318 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: on every talent. 319 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 6: I just like stopped like as a guest that was 320 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 6: like demon possessed, I was a murderer. 321 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: It's because you're so good. 322 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: You are such a good act you are such a 323 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: but let me say this for a second. You are 324 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: such a phenomenally talented actress. And the fact that you've 325 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: gone from show to show is a testament to that 326 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: and proof of that because you are so believable in 327 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: so many different roles, Like you are a true actress. 328 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: You go from thing to thing to thing, and you're 329 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: very different. So I think that it's just I wanted 330 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: to say that because I just I really believe that. 331 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't know that I've said that out loud to 332 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: you to your face, but I'm telling you right now, 333 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: I think that you're such a phenomenal actress and this, 334 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: this is looking at your whole life in a different 335 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: way and talking to you in this way reminds me 336 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: of that because it's like the whole picture. But I 337 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: remember when you came, and I remember. I mean, it's 338 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: it's interesting because I've heard you talk about it. But 339 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: the character you obviously didn't know you were going to stay, 340 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: so you came for the little bit. But if you 341 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: think about what you looked like and who you played 342 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: and who you were when you came, and you look 343 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: at what. 344 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 6: You look like and who your character was and what 345 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 6: you played at the end, No, So this I was 346 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 6: actually just this is an interesting little take on what 347 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 6: our industry does. I was just telling somebody else about 348 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 6: this before, prior to my character getting with Jesse Williams, 349 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:38,239 Speaker 6: I've always played awkward, grading annoying, ugly, duckling, not beautiful people. Seriously, 350 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 6: all of It's always like the weird stalker who is 351 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 6: after mister Shue. 352 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: Or. 353 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 6: The pathetic wife who's married to a man who doesn't 354 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 6: love her, or the really ugly best friend to the 355 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 6: Emily Van Camp character in Everwood that like people comment 356 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 6: on how ugly she is because she's wearing glasses. 357 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: Oh no, wearing glasses. 358 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 6: Yes, I was ugly until my character started dating Jesse 359 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 6: and now I play romantic. 360 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: Leads and that's so that's actually I think that's kind 361 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: of fucked up. 362 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 6: It's super it's because the industry. It's because the show 363 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 6: tells you how to think about somebody. 364 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: That's just what. That's just the scripts are written. 365 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 6: The character is designed in mind of like, I want 366 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 6: you to love this person. I want you to be 367 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 6: annoyed by this person. I want you to think that 368 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 6: this person is beautiful. So we're gonna put her in 369 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 6: situations where everybody talks about how she's the ugly duckling, 370 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 6: even if she's not ugly, but then you will then 371 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 6: makes the audience believe they are ugly until the audience 372 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 6: until the show starts saying, look how beautiful she is, 373 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 6: and look how pretty, and look how vibrant she is, 374 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, the audience is like. 375 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, she's You're a product being sold. They're advertising 376 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 3: you to be like a certain way, basically yeah. 377 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 6: And it's and it's it's written into dialogue that you're 378 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 6: telling the audience how to feel about somebody. Always like 379 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 6: that is what is happening in a script. Always if 380 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 6: you're telling somebody how to feel about somebody, so like 381 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 6: it's very in and I look, I loved all the 382 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 6: weirdo characters that I played before moving into romantic leadland. 383 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 6: And the funny thing is, too, my whole career started 384 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 6: playing the most romanticist lead of all, Juliete on stage. 385 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 6: But it was on stage, so it's away. It's not 386 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 6: like you know, yeah right up in the face. 387 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: What important to mention right now is that I don't 388 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: know of any plastic surgery that you've had, so you've 389 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: always been beautiful. I think what you're what you're talking 390 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: about is the way that the characters talk about you, 391 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: or how you're made up in here and makeup yeah 392 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: and all that. 393 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, Because I was talking before you came in, Sarah, 394 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: I was like, I blew out my hair today for 395 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: you to honor April Kipner. And when I came on 396 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: the show, I saw you in the makeup chair and 397 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: the hair chair and your hair was like you were so. 398 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 4: Glamorous, and I was like, oh, yeah, I want I 399 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 4: want that. I all get that hair. 400 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: And they were like, no, no, You're gonna be in 401 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: a bun for five hundred years. That is the April 402 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: Kpner look, that's her. And so it's so interesting hearing 403 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 3: you say that the ugly duckling, because you were like 404 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 3: the blood the g put together, gorgeous doctor on our show. 405 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 3: In fact, so that like some of us like literally. 406 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 4: We couldn't even we weren't even allowed anything. 407 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 6: But she, but April was even when her hair started 408 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 6: to get blown out, nobody commented on her beauty. Ever, 409 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 6: because nobody was interested in her, nobody wanted to date her. 410 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 6: She was the weird virgin, twenty eight year old virgin even. 411 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 2: And I guess at that point. 412 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: Well, you were kind of making this up. You were 413 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: kind of like a know it all. Yeah, weren't you greating? 414 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: That's an annoying thing to play. Yeah, right, like that's 415 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: just no one. No one wants to deal with the 416 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: know it all. 417 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 2: No. 418 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, but in real life, guess what you are too? 419 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: Not in an annoying way, but you are you know 420 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: it all. I'm being in scenes with you, you and Chondra. 421 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm like you literally like stop everything 422 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: because you're like, oh, we hold on, this prop isn't 423 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: where we're supposed to be. Wait, this doesn't make sense 424 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: because I just said previously previously this other thing, and 425 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm like. 426 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: Who cares? I have such an issue? 427 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: And Chondra are like I care, I care. 428 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 2: The logic cast the math cast math. 429 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: For me or I can't say I love that. I 430 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: do love because Sandra was like this too. Sandra was 431 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 3: a Sandway. 432 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 6: She was my model when I came on, I just 433 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 6: like I. 434 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: I would watch Sandra. 435 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 6: Passionately fight for something about her character or her story 436 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 6: with with our head writers passionately, and you could see 437 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 6: there was real respect between. She wasn't just going sucks. 438 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 6: I can hate this stupid shit. I've never even got 439 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 6: to learn any of these lines, you know, which we've 440 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 6: seen other people do. It's like it's who I know. 441 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: But like her. 442 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 6: Her passion, how much she cared about every single piece 443 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 6: of the journey of Christina Yang was inspiring it. It 444 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 6: actually allowed me to have a voice, so my I like, 445 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 6: I would watch her and go, oh, you can have 446 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 6: a beautiful collaborative relationship with the writer team, and you 447 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 6: can be involved in the crafting of your character instead 448 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 6: of just being a meat puppet, and like, go stand 449 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 6: in your mark and say the things I told you 450 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 6: to say. And I really took that to heart and 451 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 6: they allowed me in to participate in the journey. 452 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: I were watching you and Jesse just be so involved 453 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 4: in story and dialogue. 454 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 3: Your YouTube, you know, scenes are like the most watched scenes. 455 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 4: They have the most views of. 456 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 3: Anything on Gray's Anatomy, and it's it's a testament to 457 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 3: both of you. I have a question, what is one 458 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 3: storyline that you were resistant to do that you weren't 459 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: a super fan of? 460 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: There was, Yeah, there was this one. 461 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 6: So there was a cochlear implant story where we I 462 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 6: can't remember exactly. It turned into this conversation between and 463 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 6: Jackson and I were at that point married, but were 464 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 6: coming from two completely different perspectives. 465 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: And I was fighting for. 466 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 6: How to do with a patient, whether they were going 467 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 6: to give their kid cochlear implants or not. And I 468 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 6: was fighting from the perspective of that there's this whole 469 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 6: beautiful culture that is that sund that surrounded with the 470 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 6: deaf community and with sign language and whatever. He and 471 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 6: he's from the science perspective of like, why wouldn't you 472 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 6: fix it if it was a problem. And it kind 473 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 6: of spiraled into this conversation where we're talking about faith 474 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 6: and I basically say I feel sorry for you that 475 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 6: you don't have any faith, and I had. I remember 476 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 6: being on set and like weeping to Tony and being like, 477 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 6: I don't know how to say these words out loud 478 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 6: because I feel like it's so arrogant, and I don't 479 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 6: want to present a person of faith that is just 480 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 6: feeling sorry for everybody who doesn't believe what she believes. 481 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 6: I just like it feels it's everything I want to 482 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 6: fight against as I'm playing this hopefully multi dimensional, very grounded, 483 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 6: and real character who's living out her faith in a 484 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 6: way that resonates with how I live out my faith. 485 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 6: I don't want to walk down a road where I 486 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 6: am just shutting saying I know I'm right and you're wrong. Judge, Judge, Judge, Judge, judge, 487 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 6: because that's the only way people of faith had ever 488 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 6: been depicted before on television. So I remember like weeping, 489 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 6: like so many There were so many times when Jesse 490 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 6: because what I could explain it to him and then 491 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 6: he could distill it, and then I would get too 492 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 6: emotional and then he would like translate it. 493 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: We'd advocate for you, Yes, you would advocate. 494 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 6: For me again from like he comes from a completely 495 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 6: different perspective, well, like we would do that for one 496 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 6: another on the onset, you know, which was so sweet 497 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 6: and I don't remember exactly did. 498 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: You end up having to say the line? 499 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 6: I think I said the line, but I but it 500 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 6: we came to a medium, a medium part where something 501 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 6: I don't remember actly was. 502 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: Behind the line. 503 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 6: Intention behind was was more of of instead of oh, 504 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 6: it's so depressing that you don't know the truth, it became. 505 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: More about like, my perspective allows. 506 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 6: Me to see the unseen and there's magic and I 507 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 6: wish you could join me there. 508 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: Seeing as an actress, I was a little bit more 509 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: like Jesus take the wheel. If the writers want to 510 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: write that, and I'm going to say that, then I'm 511 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: going to say that. 512 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 3: I think everyone well, everyone has their own process, right, 513 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: like everyone has what works for them. 514 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 6: If I wasn't playing a person of faith, I wouldn't 515 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 6: have fought that harder advocated. 516 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: But because it's. 517 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 6: Something I know so well and something I care about 518 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 6: so much, that was you know, if I my role, 519 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 6: I would had a much easier time on Grace if 520 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 6: I was not playing a Christian. 521 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 522 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, So it's like making that quick turn and go Oh, 523 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 6: this is a whole new way of looking at like, 524 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 6: I mean, identity. 525 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: What I think was so genius about what the writers 526 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: did was that there were no real stereotypes built around 527 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 1: me as a character. You know, there was there was 528 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: no direction with hair or makeup or the clothes I 529 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: wore or things I did. It was very much like 530 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: she could be any she could be anything, and she 531 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: was gay. 532 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 6: Like, well, that's what I love so much. And I 533 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 6: think what Shanda's writing, what this show in particular sort 534 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 6: of made a path for, which is to like just 535 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 6: show everybody and not comment on it all, you know, 536 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 6: like we don't need to make a whole thing about 537 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 6: that part of your identity. You're just living your life 538 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 6: in your skin as who you are, you know and 539 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 6: like and then and we're representing everybody you can imagine 540 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 6: while just living our life. You know, there's there's nothing 541 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 6: so powerful. There's no like sermon you can give in 542 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 6: an episode that's going to be more effective than allowing yourself, 543 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 6: you know, allowing someone to be seen in a way 544 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 6: that isn't just like now we have to know, we 545 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 6: have to do an after school special about this. 546 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the only time that I ever had 547 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: issues with words? Is how many times we say each 548 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: other's names. I'm like, I'm not saying not saying her name. 549 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: Everyone knows what her name is. No one needs to 550 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: hear me say April. I say April five times on 551 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: this page. I'm not saying it had the same issue. 552 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: Jesse's like, I can't. I cannot like how many. 553 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 3: Times April, April April hand me the four steps and 554 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: then afterwards April, I don't understand why you're not April. 555 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: Just open the door. Stop it. 556 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: I know your name, we all know your name. 557 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know. 558 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: It's so true. 559 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I have a random question myself. Okay, I'm Grace. Okay, 560 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: who do you think? This is more like a trivia question? 561 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 3: Who do you think would have been? Would have made 562 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 3: the worst love interest for April? 563 00:27:53,920 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 4: Kevinor Sloan? Oh goodness, there's no need to even explain that. 564 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 6: Can I tell you a funny story On the season seven, 565 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 6: before they made my character Love Jesus and a Virgin, 566 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 6: there's a scene where Sloane, well, we're Sloan and Reed 567 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 6: have sex random one night stand that was supposed to 568 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 6: be me. Originally it was supposed to be April. April 569 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 6: was supposed to have some random one off with Sloan 570 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 6: and it was in this. It was in the original 571 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 6: like production draft, and then they changed it. I didn't 572 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 6: have anything to do with it, but they changed their mind. 573 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: That would have completely changed the trajectory, trajectory of every everything, everything, 574 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 3: But that's because fans don't know this. Yeh okay, okay, 575 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: Jessica go u interesting. No, I was actually it's not 576 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 3: a grades. I was thinking about how the three of 577 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 3: us if we were to do something outside of Grades, 578 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: Like if we were to sign up for a movie 579 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: all three of us or a series all three of us, 580 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 3: would we wanted to be a drama, a comedy? 581 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: What do we think? 582 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: Comedy? 583 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: I want us all to be in a comedy. 584 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: I want comedy, I do. I mean, I love comedy. 585 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: Remember when we did The bridesmaid when we were doing 586 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: the covers of the movies, of. 587 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 6: All the movies, Yes, and that was so fun. We 588 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 6: gotta do a Bridesmaids. 589 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: We want to. 590 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 4: That's what we need to do. 591 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 6: We need to do a Bridesmaid's landish Bridesmaids esque, Romp 592 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 6: love It. 593 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 3: Speaking of Romps, you wrote the first sex scene for 594 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: a Lifetime movie, right Christmas Christmas movie, which was a 595 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: Cowboy Christmas, and. 596 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 4: I just Christmas sexy, gaboy Christmas. 597 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: I just have to know a was was that your idea? 598 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: Did you have to push for it? And did Lifetime 599 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: push back? 600 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: So it was an acquisition. 601 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 6: So I wrote it and produced it with a separate 602 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 6: production company and who. 603 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: Loved the idea. But I was basically like, look, I 604 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: am a normal woman. 605 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 6: I love romance and I love when it gets steamy, 606 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 6: and like, there are nine thousand rom com Christmas movies. 607 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 6: Everybody loves Christmas. They love but I know there's an 608 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 6: audience for people who want to have a little more steam. 609 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: They want to see you doing it. 610 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 4: I want to have more steam. 611 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: They want Christmas sex. 612 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: I need more, They need a little more spice. 613 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 6: So I just I had just shot a Western and 614 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 6: I was in life horseland in my brain I'd had 615 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 6: like the best time ever and so and so I 616 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 6: just started doing research on like what's going on with 617 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 6: ranchers these days in America. I was like, okay, hot cowboy, 618 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 6: hot girl. And I as I was working on it 619 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 6: with my my producer, I was like, so like, do 620 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 6: you think they could like really like get it on, 621 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 6: like in the middle of the movie, do you think 622 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 6: that could happen? 623 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: And she's like, I think you should go. 624 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 6: For it, and so we produced it and we made it, 625 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 6: and then Lifetime saw and they're like, I'm keeping everything. 626 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 6: I love it all, and that's what that was the 627 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 6: their foray into I'm going to try a little naughty 628 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 6: Christmas maybe once a year. And they just bought my 629 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 6: second one. Oh it's a sexy carpenter. Okay, tell us 630 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 6: about this one. 631 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: What is it? Is there steam? How much steam should 632 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: we expect? It's a Christmas movie. 633 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 6: There's steam, and there's nostalgia of a really fun So 634 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 6: it's it's about two people that used to have a 635 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 6: relationship and then coming back together. 636 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: And it's about a carpenter. And if you look at 637 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: the carpenter, my lead. 638 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 6: Guy, his Instagram Mitchell Slaggert, he basically is the embodiment 639 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 6: of this character. Like all he does is like play 640 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 6: with his dogs and build things. 641 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 3: And he's also so many women are running to Instagram 642 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: right now. 643 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: Just from those two. 644 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: He builds the listless most. 645 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 6: Of the time as he's like chopping wood, his Instagram. 646 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not even kidding. 647 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: He was. 648 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: He's literally the most perfect choicefulness he's so good in it. 649 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 6: And then Sasha Peters from Big Dirty Little Liars Liars. 650 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, pretty Little Liar. 651 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 6: A Little Liars, Sorry, pretty Little She's amazing. So they're 652 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 6: both amazing in it. But yeah, but but I have 653 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 6: like a fun nostalgic comment where basically he was like 654 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 6: her Jordan Catialano growing up, where they would like make 655 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 6: out in secret, but he would like hide her. Did 656 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 6: you not get that reference, Camilla? 657 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: I don't. 658 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 3: I just I get the referen I'm thinking like Wonder 659 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: Years a little bit, not one. 660 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 6: It's Claire Day's, It's it's my so called blat life. 661 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Jared Letto Jared Leto when. 662 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 4: Made Letto, that's I forgot that that was his character name. 663 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: But I did not like Jared. I know he was 664 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: a jerk. 665 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 6: Well, this is the issue was that she comes back 666 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 6: and they had all these steamy makeout sessions when they 667 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 6: were kids, and then now she's back and there's a 668 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 6: spark that's regnited, and she's a writer of a romanticy 669 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 6: novel writer. So she writes wrote like fantasy romance novel. 670 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: This is so good. 671 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 6: He's a carpenter and he's trying to rebuild this town 672 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 6: that had like a mass of fire five years ago, 673 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 6: and so he's been like helping me. It's been shirtless 674 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 6: for Fuss, shirtless restoring the town for five years. 675 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 4: Do we get to see this Christmas? 676 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: Yes? 677 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 6: I think I think they're gonna announce the I feel 678 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 6: like I feel like it just is coming. The announcement 679 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 6: is happening like now, like ten o'clock. 680 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: Oh yes, but I think. 681 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 6: It's December twenty first, I'm like, Okay, we will. It's 682 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 6: very exciting because the first one was was a cowboy 683 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 6: Christmas romance and this one is a carpenter Christmas romance. 684 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 2: And I just love that. Lifetime has been like, yeah, 685 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 2: let's keep doing this. 686 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 4: I love I love it, I love it for you. 687 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: I love it works. It works. 688 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 4: I'll be tuning in. 689 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 6: I got to tell you about Mistletoe Murders, which comes 690 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 6: out on Halloween. 691 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: So this one. 692 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 6: I am so excited about this show. It's it has 693 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 6: like Veronica mars z Esh feel to it. There's like 694 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 6: a really fun I play this Christmas shop owner, but 695 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 6: I've got this secret pass that I'm running from in 696 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 6: a secret identity, and so there's some like badass things 697 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 6: that come out that. 698 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: You're like, how would she know how to do that? 699 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 6: But there's people start dying and she has to solve 700 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 6: these crimes, and it's there's romance, there's comedy, there's action, 701 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 6: and it's shot really beautifully and it's written really beautifully, 702 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 6: and I'm like, I could not be more excited about it. 703 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 4: And when does that airing? 704 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 6: That's Hallmark Plus, so it's on their new streamer, so 705 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 6: it'll start dropping every Thursday, starting on Halloween. 706 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: This gives kind of like Jennifer Garner alias. 707 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly said. 708 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 6: That is exactly what I thought when I when I 709 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 6: read the script, I was like, because then he sent 710 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 6: me this whole like file on my backstory and you 711 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 6: only get little tiny pieces of it. You have little 712 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 6: eaty bitty flashbacks and stuff about like what what brought 713 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 6: her to this place? And she's really kind of an 714 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 6: interesting double life situation. 715 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 2: It's pretty fun. 716 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 4: Love it. 717 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I made a connection there were you 718 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: and Jennifer Garner being sort of similar. Yeah, okay, so 719 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: the callic has written in their questions. Emily wrote in, 720 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: and she said, what was the most iconic scene for 721 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: you during Grey's Anatomy? 722 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 6: Probably the Hello. My name is April Kepnor. I'm twenty 723 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 6: eight years old. I was born on a farm. I 724 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 6: got this, you know that one, the speech with the shooter. 725 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 6: I think that that was like the first moment where 726 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 6: I think the world really encountered April Kepner. 727 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 728 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: I just got Goosebine where. 729 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: I really encountered April Keptner. 730 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. 731 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 4: It's amazing. 732 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 3: Shannon asked, what do you think April will be doing 733 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 3: now since she left Gracelawn Memorial. 734 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I haven't thought about April in a while. 735 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 6: You guys, Well, they're still thinking about April. Okay, he's 736 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 6: in Boston. I think she and Jackson are still together. 737 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: Looked like the. 738 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 6: Last time I visited they got back together. Unless that changed. 739 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 4: Can you see them having more children. 740 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 2: If her eggs aren't dead. 741 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: The baby, we don't know. 742 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: That's a great question. 743 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 6: I love. 744 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a lot that answer. Sorry, eggs aren't fried. 745 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 2: The eggs need to be alive, Yes, they do. 746 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: Those viable eggs. So Freya wrote in and said, how 747 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: is it working on guiding Emily and learning about the 748 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: blind community. 749 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 750 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 6: I know that's that would be a long answer too, 751 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 6: but it was. It was such an incredible experience to witness, 752 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 6: because I want once one thing I'll share is that 753 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 6: for a lot of the movie, I'm blindfolded, and it 754 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 6: was a process to get the stuff on. So I 755 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 6: would spend like hours completely with my eyes covered and 756 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 6: having people lead me and guide me to where I 757 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 6: needed to be. And you you really begin to learn 758 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 6: like the folks that include you and the ways that 759 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 6: you are isolated based. 760 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 2: Up because you can't see anything. 761 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 6: You're not taking any social cues off of anything, you 762 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 6: don't know who's come up behind you, you don't know 763 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 6: where you are, you don't know how you're going to 764 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 6: get where you're going to go, you know, and if 765 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 6: you're in a crowd, if people aren't actively including you 766 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 6: verbally in the conversation, you feel completely invisible. So it 767 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 6: was very very interesting and I and I you know, 768 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 6: in my experience, of course, is that I'm on a 769 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,959 Speaker 6: set where I'm the number one on the call sheet, 770 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 6: so everybody is working hard to make me feel included. 771 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 6: But I did remember we worked with a few visually, 772 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 6: partially partially cited and blind actors on the show, and 773 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 6: I and I would I found myself going out of 774 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 6: my way when we're all sitting in our chairs to 775 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 6: verbally include them in the conversation, because I saw it 776 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 6: happen a few times where people just started having conversation 777 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 6: in the corner and then she just gets quieter and 778 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 6: quieter and quieter and quieter because nobody's including her, you know. 779 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 6: So it's a very very it was very illuminating and 780 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 6: a really intense journey, and I'm so grateful. 781 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 2: I'm really proud of that movie. 782 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, hear you talk. I'm also reminded of something 783 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 1: that I was reminded when I saw you last in Chicago, 784 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: is that you are you have I mean, you're clearly 785 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: we all are, right works multifaceted, there's so many different 786 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: dimensions and things and everything else. But I would say 787 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: something that I know about you from being in relationship 788 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: with you is that you have a through line of 789 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: real humanity and goodness, Like the way that when you 790 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: when you talk about things and when you consider things, 791 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: even when you're being naughty, and you can be. You 792 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: can be naughty. I've had naughty conversations with you, But 793 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: there really is just such a there's such a goodness 794 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: and I find it so exciting and inspiring and warm, 795 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: and it just it always feels really nice to be 796 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: with you. 797 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 3: I have to say that on our set, I always 798 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 3: felt like when I joined, there were certain people that 799 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 3: felt like a comfort blanket to me that I just 800 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 3: felt like warm, so much warmth from Jessica. Not the 801 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 3: first year that was like a spiky cactus. 802 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: But it was cold as ice, like an icy bath. 803 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 3: No, but there were certain and it's like you always 804 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 3: from day one, Sarah, I have to say that, like 805 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: you were and I miss I miss you so much 806 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 3: on our set. 807 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 4: We're getting a little nostalgic. 808 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to hop back into some questions really quick. 809 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 6: Before you have to go, I want to just say 810 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 6: thank you. I really just appreciate you reflecting that both 811 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 6: of you. That means like it's it's it's that that 812 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 6: feels an affirmation of what I hope I am, and 813 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:30,959 Speaker 6: it's that that reflects the purpose that I have in life. 814 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 2: So it really, no, you really are acting that's who 815 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 2: I want to be. 816 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: So I I and you are and in the land 817 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: of the yes. And because we talked about the yes 818 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: and so much right, I always say I didn't even 819 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: know what paradox was until I was like in my thirties. 820 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: But the yes and the yes, and we've clearly said 821 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: while you can be all that goodness, like I said, 822 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 1: you used to annoy me with all your note illness 823 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: on set. 824 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah. 825 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: You are, Chandra. You guys can it the same place? 826 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 2: Oh? 827 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 6: I remember, big, I remember a big conversation with you 828 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 6: because I changed something in the moment and you were like, no, yeah. 829 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is my boundary. Okay, Sarah, this is a 830 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: boundary I'm setting. 831 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:10,479 Speaker 4: Yeah. 832 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 2: And then by the way, I. 833 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: Probably was like, is that okay, this is my boundary. 834 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 2: You hear about your boundary? 835 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I loosten you just you're hearing 836 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: it from two people. I can be cheap is. 837 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 5: Not the right word. 838 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 4: No, No, that's not what it is. 839 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: I can be, I can be I can be suparn 840 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: like I can get like immovable. 841 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: We've talked about that. She's she's look, I am. 842 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 6: I admire the way that you're able to establish boundaries 843 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 6: because because it also comes with the other side of you, 844 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 6: which is like I will burn this motherfucking house to 845 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 6: the ground to defend you. You know, it is it's like, 846 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 6: it's it's the it is a strength, and I I 847 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 6: think I probably allow myself to get bowled over too, 848 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 6: unless I annoy someone into submission. 849 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 2: Actually I disagree with that. 850 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 3: I don't. 851 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 4: I disagree with that. 852 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 3: I think that you I watched you both because I 853 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 3: was the new beyond st with you guys. I think 854 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 3: that you both were really strong voices on that set. 855 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 3: I didn't get any element of like being afraid to 856 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 3: sort of fight when you needed to have, you know, 857 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 3: fight for what you loved about the character, because it 858 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 3: always came from such a it always came from a 859 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 3: great place. There was nothing ever remotely Gidiva, all those 860 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 3: things that actors can beat. It was never ever that. 861 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 3: And so I feel like I learned so much from 862 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,800 Speaker 3: watching both you guys, truly, really honestly and slowly found 863 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 3: my voice, you know, like a million years later. It 864 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 3: takes time, but it's so great watching It was just 865 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 3: so great watching you guys. 866 00:42:54,239 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 6: Maybe that's why we were fired, Jessica, No, no, this is. 867 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 1: That's a different episode. 868 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 3: That's a different episode with a glass of wine. 869 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: Again, we just funny, but we're the luckiest people in 870 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: the world because truly, at almost the end of every 871 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: episode that we record, we want more, so we always 872 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: leave it. 873 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 4: Are you already done? 874 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 5: I know went fast, It went really fast, and you 875 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 5: know what it does. 876 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 2: I only can take answer one fan question. Sorry, guys, no, 877 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 2: we're going to have you back on. 878 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 3: This is not this is just the this is the 879 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,439 Speaker 3: introduction of Sarah Drew to our show, or so many 880 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 3: more questions. 881 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously there's you know, people, the people 882 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: want to know what they want to know, but also 883 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: if you have things that you want to talk about, 884 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: or if you have a topic that you're psyched about, 885 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: like we're obviously already set up to do this, so 886 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: you know know any. 887 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, one hundred percent. It's open door policy here 888 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 3: for miss Sarah Drew. 889 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 4: We love you so much. You wait to talk to you. 890 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 3: And we can't wait to see all that the new 891 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 3: TV show that's coming out Halloween Messletie Murders. Right, we 892 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 3: have the Christmas the Christmas Carpenter. We can't wait, the shirtless. 893 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: All the sexy. 894 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,720 Speaker 2: There's shirt there's some shirtless. It's great. 895 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 4: We love it. We love you, Sarah, thank you so much. 896 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 3: I love you. 897 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 4: Bye.