1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Some teams, I understand, backed out after this. They said 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: we don't need this, that's enough, and other teams remained in. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: And the Padres have been in from the very beginning. 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: The Dodgers have been in from the very beginning. Welcome 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory Trade Deadline Edition. 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: And I want to open the show today by posing 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: a question. And the question is this, Who had izak 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: parades to the Cubs on their deadline bingo cards? I 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: would imagine the answer is pretty much no one. And 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: the question is instructive for two reasons. Two things that 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: we often talk about, or I often talk about at 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: this time of year. One, as much as guys like 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: me like to act like we know what's going on, 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: we don't really know what's going on. Things like this 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: come up all the time, shocking trades, trades that came 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: seemingly out of nowhere. Okay, that's one thing. The other 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: one thing here is that this simplification of the deadline, 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: this buy sell equation, is not so simple. And I 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: talk about this constantly. It's not binary, it's not one 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: or the other. The Cubs, yes, they may end up 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: selling some I expect they're going to trade some of 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: their relievers, Mark Leier, perhaps Julian Merriweather, maybe Hector Naris. 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: And yes, they could trade Jamison Tyo in one of 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: their starters if they get the deal that they want 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: for him. But what we're seeing here with their trade 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: for Nate Pearson and now of course they're trade for Parades, 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: is they're buying and selling all at once. Teams do 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: this all the time. We're going to talk about mostly 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: things that have happened, not things that will happen, because 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: by the time this show is airing, things might change. 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: So let's get right to it. And the first thing 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: I want to discuss today, beside the Paradies trade that 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: I just mentioned, is the fact that relievers, relief pitchers 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: in general, are attracting high prices at this deadline, higher 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: prices than I think many of us expected. It started 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: with the Hunter Harvey deal, a deal in which I 37 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: thought the Royals did pretty well, but one in which 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: they gave up a good third base prospect and a 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: draft pick. And it continued with aj Puck, with Yami Garcia, 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: with Carlos Estevez, which is the highest price paid in 41 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: the estimation of many in the industry. That's the trade 42 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: that the Phillies made for the Angels closer, and again 43 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: on Sunday with the Padres trade for Jason Adam. So 44 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: what's going on here, Well, relievers are always in demand 45 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: at the deadline. Why because relievers are extremely valuable, not 46 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: just in pennant races but in the postseason. And Estevez, 47 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: who you're seeing right there, he's a guy that is 48 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: especially valuable because he can close and because he doesn't 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: walk a lot of guys that's a huge thing at 50 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: this time of year. So we're going to see relievers 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: continue to come off the board. And as of ten 52 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: am Monday, I want to show you the guys who 53 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: are still available ten am Eastern I'm talking about and 54 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: one of them is the most desirable closer remaining. That 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: is Tanner Scott. He is a potential free agent. Kyle 56 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: Finninggan from the Nationals may or may not be traded. 57 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: He has an extra year of control. The Nationals are 58 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: going to ask Hi Taylor Rogers of the Giants. I 59 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: don't know that the Giants are going to really sell 60 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: in a classic sense, but they may move him and 61 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: try to do some other things. Pete Fairbanks of the Rays. 62 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Rays in a minute. Colin Pochet 63 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: from the Rays, Luis Garcia from the Angels. He's the 64 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: guy who was setting up as Stevez and Michael Kopak 65 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: from the White Sox, as well as every other Marlins reliever. 66 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: Katie wru from the Athletic was the first one on this. 67 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: The Marlins are essentially shopping every reliever no matter how 68 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: much control they have left. I would expect them to 69 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: make at least one more trade involving a bullpen piece 70 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: beyond Tanner Scott. So the relief market continues to bubble, 71 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: it continues to be quite active, and it's going to 72 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: remain that way until Tuesday, six pm Eastern. That is 73 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: the trade deadline. So far, from what we've seen, the 74 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: been I would say, by far the most active team. 75 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: They are a team that has been hovering around five 76 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: hundred all season. They don't love their chances in the 77 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: AL East, even though their playoff odds are actually better 78 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: than some teams that are either holding or trying to add. 79 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: The Rays are being what the Rays always are, pragmatic 80 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: and very very value minded. Now. I wrote about them 81 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: yesterday and the column drew some interesting reaction from people, 82 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: because what I said was they're putting on a clinic 83 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: at the trade deadline, and I want to show you 84 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: what they've done just so far, and there is more 85 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: to come from them. I feel quite confident of that. 86 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: So far, the Tampa Bay Rays have made six trades. 87 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: They've added fourteen prospects, and as I noted in the column, 88 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: nine of them went immediately into the MLB pipeline top thirty. 89 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: And they've saved tens of millions of dollars, not just 90 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four salary, but in future arbitration salaries, 91 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: and of course Zach One's eighteen million that is due 92 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: next year. The Orioles pick that up. So the Rays 93 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: are doing the Rays thing right now. Some people don't 94 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: like this, and I can understand it. When you're a 95 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: Raise fan, it's pretty hard to get attached to one player. 96 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: But as I point out in the column, their formula works. 97 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: What they've done over the years, six straight winning seasons, 98 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: twelve of their last sixteen, been to the playoffs a 99 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: number of times, it's difficult to argue with it. Now. 100 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: You can say, oh, well, Ken, they've never won the 101 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: World Series. Guys, I will repeat this again. Winning the 102 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: World Series is not the measure of success, or at 103 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: least not the only measure of success. You get to 104 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: the playoffs enough times and you're doing pretty well. So 105 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: from that perspective, I like what the Rays are doing. 106 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: I think what they're doing. 107 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: Is retooling their roster. 108 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: Trying to get younger and cheaper, as they always do, 109 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: and collecting a number of really good prospects. Some of 110 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: them will turn out to be quality major leaguers, a 111 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: number of them won't, but when you collect enough of 112 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: these guys, eventually you're to hit on some. And of course, 113 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: in the Paradis trade, they got Christopher Morel back in 114 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: that trade, who is a major league player. They got 115 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: Hunter Biggie back in that trade. He will be a 116 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: major league believer, and from what I heard yesterday from 117 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: a number of people, a good one. So this trade 118 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: is more of a now kind of thing. Ty Johnson 119 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: is a projectable starting pitcher, a guy still in the 120 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: minor leagues they believe can start. So not all of 121 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: their trades have been the same. That one yesterday was 122 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: more for the present as well as the future. So 123 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: keep your eyes on the Rays. They're going to do 124 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: more things. In fact, by the time you watch this, 125 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: they might have made another trade also another team that 126 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: is really interesting right now, and frankly all thirty or interesting, 127 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: but I'll focus on this one and for the moment, 128 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: the Yankees, the Jazz chishom Junior trade that went down 129 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: on Saturday. What is interesting about the Yankees. Well, one 130 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: thing that is interesting about the Yankees from my perspective, 131 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: the way they've gone about it this season. They have 132 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: taken on big personalities in their clubhouse. It was with 133 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: Stroman they did that. It was with Alex Vverdugo they 134 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: did that, and now they're doing the same thing with 135 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: Jazz Chisholm Junior. These are guys who some teams don't 136 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: like as far as their makeup is concerned. Performance not 137 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: a problem, but they don't want to invite those kinds 138 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: of personalities into their clubhouse. They fear that they'll be disruptive. 139 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: Whatever the case might be, the Yankees have not shied away, 140 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: and in my opinion, one reason they have not shied 141 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: away is the same reason that when they had Derek 142 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: Jeter they would not necessarily shy away from different kinds 143 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: of personalities. They've got Aaron Judge and Aaron Judge in 144 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: that clubhouse. I would not say he rules with an 145 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: iron fist. It's not like that. But he is a 146 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: presence and he sets a tone, and he is a 147 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: guy who was welcoming and someone who was warmed to 148 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: his teammates and yet at the same time firm what 149 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: he needs to be. So with that, they can bring 150 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: on a Jazz Chisholm junior in addition to a Marcus 151 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Stroman and Alex Vrdugo and feel kind confident that their 152 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: clubhouse will stay together. Now, what's interesting about Jazz Chishlm 153 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: To me, it's not the personality so much is the position. 154 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: What are they gonna do with this guy? Now? They've 155 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: got a centerfielder. Chisholm was playing there earlier in the 156 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: season for the Marlins, Aaron Judges their center fielder. They've 157 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: got a second basement Glabor Torres. They're playing or plan 158 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: to play Chisholm some at third, at least some at third, 159 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: And that's an interesting idea, except he's never played that 160 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: position in nine professional seasons. Their other thing, which they've 161 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: talked about, is possibly playing Glaber Torres at third base 162 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: and Chisholm at second. Well, Glabor's not so hot on 163 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: that idea, and you can't blame them. It's his free 164 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: asan year, so I believe, and I said this on 165 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: the air Saturday. There is another shooter drop here, and 166 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: it might have dropped by the time you watch this, 167 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: but it just seems to me the Yankees are going 168 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: to keep trying to add another infielder and then reconfigure 169 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: their roster what they do in some fashion. They're also 170 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: looking for late inning relievers, guys who can get swing 171 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: and miss. They have a lot of things to do, 172 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: as do the Red Sox, the Orioles, the Astros. Oh. 173 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: I can go right down the list, and we're going 174 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: to see a lot of action in the next thirty 175 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: six hours or so. It's going to be a lively deadline. 176 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: I've said all along that things will happen. We're not 177 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: necessarily going to see blockbusters, though we might, but we're 178 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: going to see a number of trades. We're going to 179 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: see a number of teams getting itchy in the hours ahead. 180 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: Time. 181 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: Now for the inside Dish, the part of the show 182 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: where I talk about something I've written, a trend in 183 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: the game, anything at all that might pop into my head. 184 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: And this week I'm going to talk about something I 185 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: wrote over the weekend I believe it was Saturday in fact, 186 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: and it was about the Garrett Crochet situation. You see 187 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: the headline right there, Garrett Crochet's reported stance on his 188 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: playoff usage shouldn't deter teams from trading for him. Now. 189 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: I wrote this because his situation turned rather interesting over 190 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: the weekend, actually a little bit before. It was interesting 191 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: even before that, but it turned more interesting because it 192 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: came out first through John Hayman that Croshet had certain 193 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: requirements for his season going forward. One was he wanted 194 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: to remain a starter for the rest of the season. 195 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: He also wanted to stay on a regular turn and 196 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: the big one was he, if he got traded, would 197 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: not pitch in October unless his new team gave him 198 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: a contract extension. So I started the column by saying, hey, 199 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: I'm trying to imagine Garrett Crochet walking into the Dodgers' 200 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: clubhouse after getting traded and seeing Mookie Betts and Freddie 201 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: Freeman and shohey O Tani and most of all, Clayton 202 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: Kershaw and saying, guys, I'm good I'm going to pitch 203 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: for you the regular season, but I'm not going to 204 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: be there for the postseason. I have a hard time 205 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: imagining that. I have a hard time envisioning a player 206 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: doing that. Now. There are some players who have been 207 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: outspoken even so far, former incorrent players about how they 208 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: are with Crochet here. They want to see him protect himself, 209 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: and I totally get that, and in fact, at this 210 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: column elicited an interesting reaction, kind of a split reaction, 211 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: at least based on the comments that are underneath it. 212 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: Some fans were very much with Proche, and some fans 213 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: thought his stance was a little much, which is kind 214 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: of the stance that I took, even though I definitely 215 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: understand where he's coming from. We all know his history 216 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Tommy John surgery, shoulder soreness in college. 217 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: This is a guy who has already exceeded his innings 218 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: maximum this season by almost actually more than double what 219 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: he did in college at Tennessee. So he's wanting to 220 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: be careful. We all get that, and we also get 221 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: that teams have not proven very adept at predicting pictures. 222 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: No one has the answers here, and that would include 223 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: for that matter, Garrett Crochet. No one knows how to 224 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: keep these guys healthy. So I understand when fans say, hey, guys, 225 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: just looking out for himself, But to me, this was 226 00:11:59,160 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: a step beyond. 227 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: This was a. 228 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: Leverage play, whether it was Crochet's idea, his agency's CIA's idea, 229 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: or some combination of both, a leverage play to get 230 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: himself paid if possible. In this scenario where he seemingly 231 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: has some leverage, well, I don't know that he really does, 232 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: because if you're a team with postseason chances, why would 233 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: you give him an extension to pitch in October where 234 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: no one is sure he will even be able to 235 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: pitch in October. For me, the better solution here was 236 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: for Crochet simply to remain quiet, and once a trade 237 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: was made, and if a trade is made, Denny speaks 238 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: with his new team and says, listen, guys, we've got 239 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: to work out a plan here. We've got to be 240 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: really careful about this. And in my estimation or my opinion, 241 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: the team is going to want to play along. The 242 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: team that trades for Garrett Crochet, if this happens, will 243 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: be a team that has given up significant prospects to 244 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: the Chicago White Sox, and rightly so. Garrett Crochet is 245 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: pitching like an ace. The White Sox are valuing him 246 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: as a number one starter, even though he's really only 247 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: done this at a high level for three months. Remember 248 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: this is his first season in the rotation as a professional. Now, 249 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: the other thing here, if you're a team acquiring Garrett Crochet, 250 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: you're getting him for two additional seasons beyond this one, 251 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: So why would you do something that might jeopardize him. So, 252 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: in my opinion, this never had to go public. This 253 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: should have been something kind of that was a conversation 254 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: after the trade was made, and then at that point, yeah, 255 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: you have a serious conversation about where Garret Croche is at, 256 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: what is the best plan for him, what his preference 257 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: might be, because players do know their bodies, probably better 258 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: than anyone else. But at the same time, this didn't 259 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: have to get to this level because, in my opinion, 260 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: it hurt Garret Croche, it hurts his reputation. And I 261 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: don't believe for one second this is a guy who 262 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: doesn't want to compete. And he's not saying he doesn't 263 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: want to compete here, He's just looking out for himself. 264 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: But the message that he sends, the perception that some 265 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: fans will have and some in the media will have, 266 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: is that this guy is too big for his breeches. 267 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: He shouldn't be making this kind of proclamation, etc. Etc. 268 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: So in the end, do I believe Garret Crochet will 269 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: be traded? I don't know what happened here with this 270 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: all becoming public, certainly change the equation for some teams. 271 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: Some teams I understand, backed out after this. They said 272 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: we don't need this, that's enough. And other teams remained in. 273 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: And the Padres have been in from the very beginning. 274 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: The Dodgers have been in from the very beginning. There 275 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: are other teams as well that are still poking around 276 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: here because the bottom line is Garrett Crochet does not 277 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: have a no trade clause. You can trade for him, 278 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: and once you trade for him, you have that conversation 279 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: and you work it out. And at that point Garrit 280 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: Crochet can say, Okay, I know what came out earlier, 281 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: but I understand what the team's desires are. They know 282 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: what my desires are. 283 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna figure this out. We're gonna work it out. 284 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: For everyone's bay best interests, and that's really all that 285 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: matters here. Not only the team's best interest because teams 286 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: can be rather selfish in their desires with players, and yes, 287 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: at times can hurt players, but Crochet's best interest as well, 288 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: and his best interests well, yes, they might not be 289 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: to pitch in the postseason because of the innings total 290 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: that is mounting. So I know people have different opinions 291 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: on this. I respect all opinions. This was an interesting 292 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: issue to me precisely because of that, precisely because you 293 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: can see both sides of it. You can see Crochet's side. Hey, 294 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: the White Sox made him a reliever, kind of set 295 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: this whole thing in motion. He made him a reliever, 296 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: brought him up a couple of months after drafting him, 297 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: then kept him a reliever in twenty. 298 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: Twenty one, when maybe at that point. 299 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: They should have made him a starter again. 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I appreciate what 336 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: you're asking there, and it's a very fair thing to ask, because, 337 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: as he said, the Rays are not out of this thing. 338 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: So what are they doing and why am I praising them? 339 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: What they're doing is assessing their chances of really making 340 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: an impact the rest of the season, and they're determining 341 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: that those chances aren't all that good. As I said earlier, 342 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: they've been a five hundred team all year long. They 343 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: have not played to the level of expectation that they 344 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: had entering the season, and they just feel in the 345 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: position that they're in in a market where there aren't 346 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: many sellers they're better off retooling and going about it 347 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: that way than making a push for a playoff spot 348 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: that might happen. They could conceivably make the playoffs, even 349 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: though their odds are around fifteen percent, but even if 350 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: they do, they're not going to the World Series. So okay, 351 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: the Rays make these decisions, and it's fair to ask 352 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: in a vacuum, why would they do this? 353 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 2: Why in a position that they're in, when they're not. 354 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: Out of it, would they take this shot? As I 355 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: mentioned in the column, they operate with a freedom that 356 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: other teams don't have because of the market they play in. 357 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: Home attendance is always bottom five one newspaper in that town, 358 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: not much media presence. They don't get much scrutiny. That 359 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: helps them in these kinds of situations because they're not 360 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: getting ripped for it. And when you're the rais also 361 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: you've got to be mindful of payroll considerations, whether they're 362 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: legitimate or not. That's it. Now, there's also something else 363 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: to play here. What you're asking is about the financial 364 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: system of the sport, the economics system. It's not a 365 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: great system, we all know that, but you have to 366 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: operate within it and that's what the Rays are doing, 367 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: and I would suggest from the standpoint of the sport, 368 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: the expanded playoffs have definitely made more teams willing to 369 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: compete at this time of year. That's why we're seeing 370 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: so few sellers. The Rays are doing their own thing, 371 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: and they're entitled to do that under the system. But 372 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: for the most part, we're not seeing teams pull out 373 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: at times when they have a chance. You look at 374 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: the Giants and the Rangers, some of these other teams 375 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: that their postseason odds are dwindling. They're not great, and 376 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: they're kind of in the same s situation is the race, 377 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: but they're still trying. The Pirates are another team in 378 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: that position. They're still trying, so by and large, if anything, 379 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: the expanded playoffs might have created an unintended consequence where 380 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: you have too many buyers and when you have a 381 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: seller like the Rays, they are, in my estimation, simply 382 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: trying to take advantage of a market that is ripe 383 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: for a team to jump in and sell the way 384 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: they are. All right, let's go to the second question 385 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: now comes from Tony Tabreezi, who asks, honestly, Ken, how 386 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: could the White Sox not make a change at manager. 387 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: They haven't won a single game since the All Star Game, 388 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: eighty one losses before August two. That's incredible, fourteen game 389 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: losing streaks. Geez, Louise, on and on and on, Tony, 390 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: I feel you, I hear you, and you're oh wait. 391 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: We have another question from Andrew Paigak, who asks will 392 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: AJ be the next manager or would Sergio Santos or 393 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: even Terry Francona get a call. I feel pretty confident 394 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: it's not going to be AJ. I don't know about 395 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: the other names you mentioned, and Terry Francone is retired. 396 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: As for a change, and this is the most pertinent 397 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: part of what you're asking here. Yes, I do believe 398 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: a change is possible. After the deadline, they're going to 399 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: get younger, obviously, they're going to trade some more veterans. 400 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: They want to bring up some of their prospects. And 401 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: it's not working with Pedroberfall quite obviously, not entirely his fault. 402 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: In fact, I would suggest. 403 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: Not mostly his fault, but they might want to bring 404 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: in a manager more familiar with some of these kids, 405 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: maybe the guy from Triple A, whatever the case might be. 406 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: I could definitely see a change taking place again after 407 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: the deadline. 408 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: All right. 409 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: Final question, This one comes from Sean Cunningham. Shawn asks, 410 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: do the Oriels have a realistic chance at the World 411 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: Series with Kimberle as their closer? And do you think 412 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: Mason Miller's recent Aisle stint hurts his chances of being traded? 413 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: Love the show? As for Mason Miller, I don't believe 414 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: he was getting traded anyway. The Aas have basically signaled 415 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: that they are making progress and they want to keep 416 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: going forward. They've played well in July. I know it's 417 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: a small sample, but when you're a low revenue team 418 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: that's rebuilding, you want to see progress. They're seeing progress 419 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they don't want to stall that progress. 420 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: They want to keep going forward. So Miller, with his 421 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: pinky injury or not, I don't believe he was going anywhere. 422 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: The better question, do the Orioles have a chance at 423 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: winning the World Series with kimberl Kimball has had, for 424 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: the most part, a good year. He's had two bad stretches, 425 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: really bad stretches, and for that reason, Orioles fans are 426 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: rightly concerned. I expect that they're going to be active 427 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: in the bullpen market in these next thirty hours or so, 428 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: and I expect also they're going to try to get 429 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: another starter. They want to be as strong as possible. 430 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: They are going for it in their way, and yes, 431 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: Craig Kimberle is not necessarily the guy they can trust 432 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: in every night inning with every lead in October. I 433 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: would imagine they'd love to get an alternative. I don't 434 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: know that one is available to them. Maybe they're the 435 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: team for Tanner Scott, a picture they had once before. 436 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: Who knows, but the Oils certainly are looking for bullpen help. 437 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone for watching. 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