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Speaker 1: What do we have, Crystal, Indeed we do. So. We

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Speaker 1: as well, first of all, total insanity on the Hill

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Speaker 1: Chris Coons, of course, is close to Joe Biden, was

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Speaker 1: on a trip with Mansion, and he said to him,

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Speaker 1: there are folks in our party who are saying all

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Speaker 1: sorts of terrible things about you, who believe you were

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Speaker 1: stringing us along for a year, that you were never

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Speaker 1: going to come to a deal because of your state

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Speaker 1: or because of your conflicts of interest. And Coons then

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Speaker 1: told Mansion, I can't think of a better way for

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Speaker 1: you to prove them all wrong than to sign off

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Speaker 1: on a bold climate deal prove every credit wrong. And

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Speaker 1: Mansion thought for a second and responded, it would be

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Speaker 1: like hitting a homer in the bottom of the ninth

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Speaker 1: So calling in Larry Summers, calling in Bill Gates. There

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Speaker 1: is a funny part too, because just three days before

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Speaker 1: this deal was announced, former Trump advisor Stephen Moore or

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Speaker 1: remember that dude, profusely thanked Mansion on a column reading

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Speaker 1: from the article for blocking This is actually from Jeff

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Speaker 1: Stein's tweet for blocking D's climate energy deal. Quote. I

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Speaker 1: said something to the effect of you're a hero. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for what you've done. You've saved the country. And

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Speaker 1: then days later this deal is ultimately announced. David Dan

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Speaker 1: who I spoke with last week for Crystal Collin Friends,

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Speaker 1: his theory, which I kind of buy, is that, you know,

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Speaker 1: for Mansion being like trashed by climate activists and stuff,

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Speaker 1: he didn't care about that, but you were starting to

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Speaker 1: have an elite consensus around him being a real villain,

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Speaker 1: and he was not prepared for sort of elite set,

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Speaker 1: you know, the New York Times and watching Post editorial

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Speaker 1: board to fully turn against him in that way, and

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Speaker 1: that that sort of shamed him into doing something here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look again, I will say, in terms of

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Speaker 1: this bill, there is not a lot to hate if

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Speaker 1: you do look at it. Pretty look if you think

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Speaker 1: about it in terms of spending, this isn't unpaid for.

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Speaker 1: This is just raising the minimum amount that two hundred

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Speaker 1: corporations of the United States will have to pay. It's

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Speaker 1: also here's an interesting thing. Anytime you see a corporation

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Speaker 1: who's coming out and is saying that this is going

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Speaker 1: to have an undue effect on their business, they're just

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Speaker 1: admitting that they pay less than fifteen percent in taxes

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Speaker 1: right here, Because all this does is say, hey, no

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Speaker 1: matter what, you just have to pay a minimum of

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Speaker 1: fifteen percent, which means they're gamifying the tax system and

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Speaker 1: are not paying fifteen percent a year fifteen again, which

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Speaker 1: is way lower than the rest of the industrialized world.

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Speaker 1: We talk a lot here about oh, America has the

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Speaker 1: highest corporate tax most people never pay the corporate tax rate.

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Speaker 1: And all of these people are admitting that they are

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Speaker 1: paying less than many countries, all some of the most

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Speaker 1: business friendly countries on earth. So just keep that in

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Speaker 1: mind whenever people object, which is the main revenue raiser

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Speaker 1: in that cot in that bill, so that's like three

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Speaker 1: hundred billion. Majority of that money is going towards tax credits,

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Speaker 1: both for electric vehicles, sustainable home improvements, and energy neutral

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Speaker 1: tax credits. I just want to emphasize that again, which

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Speaker 1: is that, while yes, it is very annoying to me

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Speaker 1: that much of the nonprofit industrial complex is obsessed with

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Speaker 1: wind and with solar, you can't gamify carbon emissions. And

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Speaker 1: when so, nuclear will finally be able to be put

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Speaker 1: to the test against all the others geothermal included, biomass, etc.

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Speaker 1: It really will just be a game in order to

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Speaker 1: prove on paper you're like, hey, our energy source is

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Speaker 1: most efficient per capacity and more. Now, of course we

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Speaker 1: should look at the criteria and if there is a

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Speaker 1: rigged criteria, and happily we call that out. But remember

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Speaker 1: this is going to be across likely bipartisan administrations and

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Speaker 1: will be doled out on a basis to really just

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Speaker 1: try and lower carbon across the board. On top of that,

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Speaker 1: it actually, according to Rewiring America, which is a nonprofit

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Speaker 1: dedicated to electrification. From what I could tell, it's not

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Speaker 1: one of those like hippie one, says that most people

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Speaker 1: will save eighteen hundred dollars a year on their annual

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Speaker 1: energy bill within five years. That's a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: I think that that's a significant benefit towards people and

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Speaker 1: in general. Look on the evs. You know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: huge ev guy. I think they're awesome, and I also

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Speaker 1: recognize that given lithium batteries and all that, it's never

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Speaker 1: going to be We're probably not going to live in

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Speaker 1: a place where everybody can drive an electric vehicle. However,

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Speaker 1: ay making it more affordable is actually a way in

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Speaker 1: order to instigate our companies in our country to get

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Speaker 1: our hands on the critical part of the supply chain

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Speaker 1: so we can start on shoring some of that which

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Speaker 1: is really only going to be bolstered by demand. But two,

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Speaker 1: as long as we do it both on the consumer

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Speaker 1: side with electric vehicles and making sure those evs aren't

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Speaker 1: powered by coal or by a natural gas or some

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Speaker 1: sort of high carbon emitting source and from something which

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Speaker 1: is higher capacity and which is low carbon, then it's

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Speaker 1: a better overall system. I mean, a thirty percent reduction

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Speaker 1: is huge, That's what people always point to. With natural gas,

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Speaker 1: it was fifty percent from coal. Well, we can go

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Speaker 1: another fifty that's dramatically not only good in terms of

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Speaker 1: greenhouse gas emissions, climate change and all of that, but

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Speaker 1: bottom line, this will make better, good technology cheaper and

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Speaker 1: make the electricity that goes into those cheaper and more

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Speaker 1: sustainable as well, which I think these are all net positives.

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Speaker 1: And again, yeah, you're not spending one dime in deficit

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Speaker 1: spending to do any of this. No, they're actually one

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Speaker 1: of the requirements, which is you know, it's annoying to me,

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Speaker 1: but if you were going to get a deal with

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Speaker 1: Joe Manchin, there were going to be parts of it

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Speaker 1: that I wasn't going to like. But it actually reduces

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Speaker 1: the deficit. I think three hundred billion dollars that was

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Speaker 1: a requirement for him in doing this deal. And I

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Speaker 1: do think it's worthwhile spending a few minutes on exactly

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Speaker 1: what is in this. Again, there are some things in

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Speaker 1: here that I could nitpick, like the ev tax credits

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Speaker 1: are means tested, which is annoying. Why not just do

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Speaker 1: it forever? Whatever? Okay, so that's one thing. There are

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Speaker 1: some incentives in here, just to you know, for you

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Speaker 1: to understand what and we actually we have an article

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Speaker 1: about this we can put up on the the screen

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Speaker 1: that has some of the climate provisions here incentives including

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Speaker 1: rebook programs and tax credits that are meant to encourage

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Speaker 1: home improvements that would increase energy efficiency and use more

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Speaker 1: clean energy technologies. For example, the homes Rebate program would

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Speaker 1: reward eligible hewholds for energy savings. People would typically receive

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Speaker 1: two thousand dollars if they make changes that save them

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Speaker 1: twenty percent or more on overall energy costs. Would encourage

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Speaker 1: home electrification projects and efficiency upgrades. Provide funding for owners

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Speaker 1: and sponsors of eligible affordable housing to be able to

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Speaker 1: make their properties more energy and water efficient. So, as

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Speaker 1: you were pointing out, all of this together amounts to

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Speaker 1: significant rebate for sort of you know your average consumer

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Speaker 1: out there, which is which is really significant. So you

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Speaker 1: have that piece, you have the revenue raiser. Is this

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Speaker 1: what they call the fifteen percent minimum book tax, which

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Speaker 1: means they actually look at their financial statements and base

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Speaker 1: it off of what they're telling their investors they're making

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Speaker 1: versus the you know, games they play with regards to

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Speaker 1: the irs. Even that is not quite as advertised because

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Speaker 1: they can still take some tax credits because they were

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Speaker 1: worried about the energy efficiency tax credits being not as

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Speaker 1: effective as they could if they couldn't still take this test.

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Speaker 1: So there's still some wiggle room there, But overall that's

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Speaker 1: going to be a significant rent, a new raiser. You

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Speaker 1: also have increased IRS tax enforcement, and then you have

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Speaker 1: they claimed and this one is also very different from advertised.

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Speaker 1: They claim they're closing the carried interest loophole. Not really true.

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Speaker 1: They're modifying me g it harder for them to take

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Speaker 1: to profit from the carried interest loophole. This is this

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Speaker 1: big tax break giveaway that benefits private equity goules by

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Speaker 1: and large. So they're playing a little bit of games there.

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Speaker 1: They're not really closing the loophole. But ultimately, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is, I guess better than leaving it as it is.

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Speaker 1: The big question mark here is whether or not, now

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Speaker 1: that you've got Mansion on board, who is the other

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Speaker 1: person in the Senate who is a total pain in

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Speaker 1: the ass on all this stuff. It's Kirsten Cinema. Mansion

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Speaker 1: seemed to be kind of trying to appeal to her,

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Speaker 1: massage her ego a little bit. He was asked about

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Speaker 1: whether he thinks she is going to be able to

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Speaker 1: come on board with this deal. Let's take a listen

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Speaker 1: to what he has to say. Are you convinced that

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Speaker 1: Senator Cinema is going to support this bill? Or if

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Speaker 1: she ends up changing some parts of the tax structure

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Speaker 1: because republic she votes with Republicans, would that impact your

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Speaker 1: support of this reconciliation package. Let me say that Kirsten

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Speaker 1: Cinema is a friend of mine and we work very

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Speaker 1: close together. She has a tremendous, tremendous input in this

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Speaker 1: piece of legislation. This is things that everyone has worked

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Speaker 1: on over the last eight months or more. And she

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Speaker 1: basically insisted that no tax increases. We've done that. She

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Speaker 1: was very very adamant about that, and I support and

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Speaker 1: I agree with her. She was also very instrumental making

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Speaker 1: sure that we had drug prices that Medicare could compete

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Speaker 1: on certain drugs to bring it down so that there

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be an impact on individuals on Medicare across She's

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Speaker 1: done all this or she has a tremendous amount of

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Speaker 1: input in this piece of legislation, and I would like

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Speaker 1: to think she would be favorable towards it, but I

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Speaker 1: respect her decision. She'll make her own decision based on

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Speaker 1: the content so you completing with her live, yeah, saying

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Speaker 1: that she had a lot of input into this process,

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Speaker 1: trying to make it seem like, I mean this was

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Speaker 1: this was a behind closed doors deal between him and Schumer. Right,

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Speaker 1: almost no one knew about it. So he's used in

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Speaker 1: this language to try to, you know, try to soften thinks. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you were very involved in this, You were very important

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Speaker 1: to this process because he knows she could be a

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Speaker 1: real sticking point. Oh. Absolutely, And already that seems to

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Speaker 1: be indication. Let's put this up there. She's already saying

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Speaker 1: behind closed doors and making at least some messages that

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Speaker 1: she has leverage and that she may want to change

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Speaker 1: some of these things. First of all, we should remember

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Speaker 1: the idea that Carrie closing the Carriagagter's loophole is anything

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Speaker 1: but a massive giveaway to a very specific subset of

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Speaker 1: private equity one hundred millionaires is one of those things

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Speaker 1: where I cannot wrap my head around it. And she

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Speaker 1: is on the record saying that she does not want

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Speaker 1: to get rid of that loophole so that these people

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Speaker 1: can continue to pay zero tax on hundreds of millions.

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Speaker 1: Just so everybody is specifically aware that's part of the

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Speaker 1: reason why they gamified the so called closing the loophole

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Speaker 1: and really only extending it so that she can say, well, look,

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Speaker 1: I killed it. I didn't close it one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: I just I just extended it a little bit, made

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Speaker 1: it slightly harder for you to write off your gains. Here.

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Speaker 1: The other theory that I saw is that this like

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Speaker 1: very weak carried interest thing was put in this bill

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Speaker 1: when it you know, it's not dependent on the revenue

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Speaker 1: that's gained from this because it's only fourteen billion dollars

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Speaker 1: or whatever. That this was basically put in there so

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Speaker 1: that Kirston Cinema could pretend to have a win and

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Speaker 1: strike this thing out of the bill. So that's the

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Speaker 1: other theory that I've seen floating around, is that that

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Speaker 1: provision was basically made to be killed by Kirston Cinema.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. I mean. The other thing that Axio's points

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Speaker 1: to here is that she has previously said that she

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Speaker 1: supported that fifteen percent minimum book tax that's the primary

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Speaker 1: revenue driver in this bill, that would subject corporations to

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Speaker 1: at least fifteen percent tax rate, which is still very low.

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Speaker 1: But it says Schumer never bothered to check up her

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Speaker 1: position change given the darkening economic outlook. One of the

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Speaker 1: pieces with Kirsen Cinema, which I can't really believe at

647
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Speaker 1: this point, that what her considerations are are purely like

648
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Speaker 1: about her political position in Arizona, because she's already done

649
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Speaker 1: so many things that are counter to her own reelection

650
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Speaker 1: in that state. There is a potential primary challenger from

651
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Speaker 1: her left hanging out there Ruben Gego. She's already in

652
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Speaker 1: a situation where Republicans like her in the state more

653
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Speaker 1: than Democrats, So she's very vulnerable to a primary challenge

654
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Speaker 1: in the state. But if she cares about that at all,

655
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Speaker 1: and isn't just looking at whatever her payday is going

656
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Speaker 1: to be after she leaves the Senate, which is what

657
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Speaker 1: I think she's really looking at. But if she cares

658
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Speaker 1: about her political situation at all, you know, if she

659
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Speaker 1: is the one who tanks this deal, she will be

660
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Speaker 1: a true villain in terms of I mean in terms

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Speaker 1: of Democratic base, but I really think in terms of

662
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Speaker 1: sort of like broadly throughout the country, because this is

663
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Speaker 1: all very with Mansion, this is all very centristy, Like

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Speaker 1: nothing in this deal is outrageous or crazy or outside

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Speaker 1: of the mainstream of public opinion here whatsoever. So is

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Speaker 1: she prepared to be the sole, like true villain of

667
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Speaker 1: this situation? Potentially potentially, because like I said, I think

668
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Speaker 1: she is mostly playing at this point for whatever her

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Speaker 1: way of cashing in post senate career is going to. Ultimately.

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Speaker 1: I don't know her motivation, but I do know how

671
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Speaker 1: she's you know, said in the past, and who she's

672
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Speaker 1: influenced by, and that overwhelmingly seems to be corporate America.

673
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Speaker 1: Like I said, if he does tank it, it will

674
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Speaker 1: be on economic grounds, with major corporations saying that they

675
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Speaker 1: can't afford the fifteen percent minimum tax at this time

676
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Speaker 1: and again it only impacts some two hundred companies in

677
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Speaker 1: the United States, all of which are in the Fortune

678
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Speaker 1: five hundred obviously, and her multi multi billion dollar businesses

679
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Speaker 1: which use tax loopholes in order to avoid them. So

680
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Speaker 1: that's the grounds on which it would be opposed. Let's

681
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Speaker 1: see if she's willing to do it. The fact that

682
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Speaker 1: they did it behind closed doors and they didn't quote

683
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Speaker 1: unquote check with her again is going to Here's the

684
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: thing too, you can always point to like one company

685
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: which is like, oh, they're getting this tax right, off

686
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: because of their investing in something and that's why they

687
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: deserve not to pay fifteen percent. And she all she

688
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: has to do a stand up and say I'm going

689
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Speaker 1: to fight for that company. And I'm not saying that

690
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: that will be politically viable, but it will at least

691
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: give her like something to stand on. So her mouth

692
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: is shut. We don't know yet what it's going to be.

693
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Speaker 1: Apparently she's annoyed that this was foisted on her at

694
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Speaker 1: the last but that alone could be and remember too, Yeah,

695
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: their egos are so freaking fragile. Timing is also incredibly important.

696
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Speaker 1: It's August. They want to make sure that this is

697
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Speaker 1: done before the August recess because if they don't, then

698
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Speaker 1: there's some procedural problem through which even if they is

699
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Speaker 1: a slow process, it's such a slow process. They have

700
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Speaker 1: to go before the parliamentarian and argue all of this.

701
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Speaker 1: And this presumes that she will even vote for the bill.

702
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Speaker 1: So all eyes this week on Kirsten Cinema. If she

703
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: does tank it, it's pretty much over. It's almost it

704
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Speaker 1: would be almost impossible to do before the November election.

705
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: They could do it, you know, there's some timeline things

706
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Speaker 1: on the back end possibly, but right now the bill's

707
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: fate is solely in her hands. Yea mansion pleading with her.

708
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: I think today's flying day, so they'll all be back

709
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Speaker 1: in the Senate sometime this afternoon, So I would look

710
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Speaker 1: for tomorrow morning, maybe even the next day, as to

711
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: have a definitive answer from her, Yeah, and what they want.

712
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Speaker 1: And just the last thing too details for you to

713
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Speaker 1: know about this bill, the minimum tax rate. She can't

714
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Speaker 1: pull the like, oh, this are small businesses or whatever

715
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Speaker 1: thing because it only applies to corporations over a billion dollars,

716
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Speaker 1: so it'll be hard to find like really compelling soob

717
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Speaker 1: stories with regards to that. And also, you know, fifteen

718
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: percent taxes not all that high. I'm sure you guys

719
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: out there are paying a lot more on your income

720
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Speaker 1: taxes than these corporations are paying. And the last thing

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Speaker 1: is the I think it's hard to game out exactly

722
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Speaker 1: how much of an emission's reduction or whatever that it

723
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Speaker 1: ultimately is. But the analysis that I've seen says it

724
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Speaker 1: would be about a forty percent reduction in emissions, which

725
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: is very significant by twenty thirty. So you know that

726
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: is something that environmental groups and climate activists can really

727
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Speaker 1: hang their hat on. Is a significant move in the

728
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: right direction. It is a major investment. Is everything that

729
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Speaker 1: was promised. Is that even close to what Build Back

730
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Speaker 1: Batter originally was. Of course it does include almost none

731
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Speaker 1: of the social programs that were included in that, but

732
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Speaker 1: it does represent, you know, significant progress. So I don't

733
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Speaker 1: think you're going to see any problems coming from the

734
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Speaker 1: left in terms of getting behind the steel because it's

735
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Speaker 1: a lot better than the essentially nothing that was on

736
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Speaker 1: the table previously. Yeah, all right, let's go ahead and

737
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: talk about LIV Golf. Now, as I've said, I'm not

738
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Speaker 1: a golf guy. I'm looking at this purely through geopolitics.

739
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: But just so those don't those who don't know, there

740
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: has been a big controversy between the PGA, the Professional

741
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: Golf Tour, and LIV Golf, which is a Saudi backed

742
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: golf event. Now LIV has been going around and paying

743
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars in guaranteed money to some

744
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Speaker 1: of the top golfers in the world, drawing them away

745
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: from the PGA Tour, effectively splitting it up and making

746
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: golfers choose. Now, some golfers, high dollar golfers, are saying, oh,

747
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: this is all about how the PGA treats its workers.

748
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Speaker 1: And you know, from what I can tell, they actually

749
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: don't treat their people that well. They actually are skewed

750
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: very much like in the Stars direction. But that doesn't

751
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: mean that you should be taking you know, Saudi blood

752
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: money in order to rectify that situation. However, the golfers aside,

753
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: some people have sympathy for the individual golfers like hi,

754
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: who wouldn't take their money. Well, one of the people

755
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: who probably shouldn't take their money is the guy who's

756
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: going to be president of the United States already was

757
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: and maybe again, and that his name is Donald Trump. First,

758
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: let's start with this and put this up there on

759
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: the screen, which is that Trump has been using his

760
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: presidential seal at the New Jersey Golf Club. And this

761
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a problem because using the

762
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Speaker 1: presidential seal at your golf club on multiple items during

763
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: the Livy Golf tournament, which was at the Bedminster, New

764
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: Jersey Golf Course a little bit of an issue given

765
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Speaker 1: that it's directly funded by the Saudi Arabian government, and

766
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: that by using that you're actually could convey quote a

767
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: false impression of sponsor ship or approval by the government

768
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: of the United States. It's actually illegal under federal law

769
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: to do so. That doesn't mean necessarily this will be done.

770
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: But again, you are looking here at an actual golf

771
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Speaker 1: course with the presidential seal embedded into it, at a

772
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Speaker 1: Trump property which is then being rented and being paid

773
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: by a Saudi backed entity, a foreign, a foreign It's

774
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: very direct beyond foreignation. Saudi's like, this isn't Britain, okay,

775
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: even if it was this which have hundreds of billions

776
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: of dollars in weapons contracts, if they were approved by

777
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Speaker 1: the Trump administration. Right now, Jared Kushner and I'm blanking

778
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: a Secretary of Minution his treasure secretary are already on

779
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 1: the Saudi payroll. They've already taken a lot of money

780
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: from both of those government. Both of them have taken

781
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: a lot of money from those governments, even though the

782
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: internal assessments leaked that Jared Kushner is actually not a

783
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: very good money manager for private equity, and they were

784
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: basically like, yeah, we're only doing this in order to

785
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Speaker 1: buy political influence. And look, I think the people that

786
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: we should listen to are those who lost their family

787
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: members on nine to eleven, especially given that Trump recently

788
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: was asked about this and he said, oh, it's been

789
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: a long time since nine to eleven. Nobody knows who,

790
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: nobody ever got to the bottom, but he's gotten to

791
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: the bottom of nine to eleven. Unfortunately, you know, in

792
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: a way, he is right that nobody has fully grasped

793
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: the lengths to which the Saudis are responsible for nine

794
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: to eleven. But that only strengthens the case of why

795
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: you probably should not take their money. And a bunch

796
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: of nine to eleven family members actually protested outside of

797
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: the Trump golf course called upon the former president and

798
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Speaker 1: possibly future president to not take these people's money. Let's

799
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: take a listen. How much money does it take to

800
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: turn your back on your country, on the American people. Well,

801
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: according to certain individuals such as Phil Mickelson, Brooks Kopka,

802
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: Bryce and d Chambeau, Dustin Johnson, and Donald Trump, that

803
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: amount of money, who's just a few hundred million dollars

804
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: me nine to eleven families, which rate any amount of

805
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: money in the world, just to see our loved ones again,

806
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: just to have one last hug, one conversation, one more

807
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: round of golf. Mister Trump, we now have the documents

808
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: thanks to President Biden. Simply you lied to our face,

809
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: and you've continued your bullshit comments as recently as yesterday

810
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: in your ESPN interview. It's simple, The Saudis did it,

811
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: They plotted it, they funded it, and now they're trying

812
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: to distract every one of those sins with a golf

813
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: tournament fifty miles away from ground zero. We should listen

814
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: to the man, and you know what what he's getting

815
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: at is that this is the Saudi dream. I mean,

816
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: I've talked here before. The Saudi's spent billions of dollars

817
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one on this whole like it's

818
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: not us campaign or actually, you know, we didn't have

819
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: that much to do with it. By the way, come

820
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: visit Riott a great prison or to invest. They have

821
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: spent untold amounts of money bolstering and making sure that

822
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: they suffered no consequences post nine eleven through their connections

823
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: with the Bush family. But it goes far beyond that.

824
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: It's very, very multifaceted in their influence campaign. It's bipartisan,

825
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: and this is the ultimate victory for them to be

826
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: able to pay an entity directly being profited by the

827
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: former and possibly future president of the United States. And

828
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Speaker 1: it's really just the tip of the iceberg. I mean,

829
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: go ahead and put this up there, but you know,

830
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 1: this Trump approved golf event and others, it's all being

831
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: used as part of a major image rehab by MBS

832
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: and put Jamal Koshogi aside because it's so much bigger

833
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: than that. What MBS and others are trying to do

834
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: is literally build a megacity in the middle of the

835
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: desert and cast Saudi Arabia as a non oil state

836
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Speaker 1: like post oil investing in education. By the way, just

837
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: ignore that we've behead people in the streets and you know,

838
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: treat women terribly. We just let them drive recently, did

839
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: you know that this is things that they heavily are

840
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: spending on to try and obfuscate their image, build themselves

841
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: as a major geopolitical entity, and make themselves the cornerstones

842
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: of American foreign policy. Now, that would be fine if

843
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: it was not a rogue state that funded much of

844
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: the terrorism that has killed American citizens and fundamentalist Islamic

845
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: extremism across the globe. But that's what they do, and

846
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: they want us to ignore that, which we can't, especially

847
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: whenever we consider nine to eleven. So that's a very

848
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: long winded of saying, yeah, this is terrible. It's frankly

849
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: just a continuation of his hotel policy while he was president. Yeah,

850
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: and look, I mean, you're an idiot if you think that,

851
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: if you're concerned about Hunter Biden and Barisma and you

852
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: look past this, you're full of shit. I mean, there's

853
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: just no way to say it. Well, he was asked

854
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: about the money that he was making off of this,

855
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: and he said that the amount was very generous, but

856
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: I don't do it for that, Okay, okay, but don't

857
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: take it. Yeah, yeah, I mean you do have to say, like,

858
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: imagine if Hillary Clinton was doing something like this, like

859
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: the RYO would be totally losing their minds over it.

860
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: And you do also have to say that reporters should

861
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: have spent a lot more time than something, a point

862
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: Ken Clippenstein always makes digging into the Saudi financial connections

863
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: versus the Russian financial connections, they would have probably come

864
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: up with a lot more. As the first country he

865
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: traveled to, there is no doubt that he has been

866
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: perfectly comfortable taking their money, doing business with them and

867
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: then ultimately doing their bidding as President of the United States,

868
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: and you see that, like you said, with Jared Kushner

869
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: and Steve Manushan also ultimately cashing in. It's been so disgusting,

870
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm forced to watch a lot of

871
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: his golf stuff now because of Kyle. It's been so

872
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: and he is obviously very upset about the whole situation,

873
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: but it has been really disgusting to watch some of

874
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: these top golfers spout these Saudi talking points. Oh ye,

875
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: reiterating like oh the women driving thing, which is you

876
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: want to talk about virtue signaling. I mean, this is

877
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: the ultimate, Like let me give you a little bit

878
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: of something that everyone can hang their hat on, like, oh,

879
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: they're making progress. But listen to these guys talk about like, oh,

880
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: I visited the Kingdom and they're making progress and the

881
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: game of golf changes the world change. Come on, you

882
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: all are doing it for the money. Like I'd actually

883
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: expect you more if you just said listen, I couldn't

884
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: pass up that paycheck, So I'm going to look the

885
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: other way. It's not great, but it is what it is.

886
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: And ultimately, whether I play on this tour or not.

887
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: They're going to do whatever they're going to do. Yeah,

888
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: I would respect it more if they were honest, but

889
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 1: they all try to cloak it in this like oh no, actually,

890
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: we're doing something noble and very good, just like, hey,

891
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: look what's in a lifetime opportunity. I'm an athlete, I've

892
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: a limited earning potential. This is going to set me

893
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: and my family up for the rest of my life.

894
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: And so I'm just going to take the bag and

895
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: be discussed. Yeah. Yeah, but at least is honest all

896
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: this like, oh, the game of goal change the world.

897
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: Shut up. Oh I'm not Yeah, you're so right. I'd

898
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: just be like, all right, man, okay, man, I said

899
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: it right exactly. With regards to Trump, it really is

900
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: like it's hard to wrap your hat around. And the

901
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: Saudis are betting on what they've always bet on, which

902
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: is how much money they have and how much we

903
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: need their oil. And listen, you can't really say the

904
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: Biden administration has ultimately, even though he said on the

905
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: campaign trope, we're going to make the Saudis a pariah

906
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: state now with the Ukraine war and we've decided Russian

907
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: oil is and we can't have it, So we've got

908
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: to go to these, you know, the Saudi oil, which

909
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: is so much more pure and clean and great and humanitarian,

910
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: even though they've committed the worst, like been part of

911
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: the worst genocide in the world with regards to Yemen.

912
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: So ultimately, the Saudi's bet on their money and their

913
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: clout and their reputation wandering bringing them back into the

914
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: circle of nations and back into good graces with corporate America,

915
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: and so far they've been proven right. And that article

916
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 1: that we had at before they set Apart from oil,

917
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabas also major arms buyer, a potential source of

918
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: multi billion dollar construction contracts to realize Salmon's vision twenty

919
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: thirty for his country's development. So you could see the

920
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: Trump's getting in on that cash as well. And sadly

921
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: that bet seems to be paying off for them yet again,

922
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, it certainly will. Okay, guys, we have some

923
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: new polling here that we wanted to bring to you

924
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: about Biden's position in the Democratic Party which is really

925
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: quite stunning. Let's go ahead and put the CNN pull

926
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: up on the screen. Seventy five percent of Democrats want

927
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: someone other than Biden in twenty twenty four. Let me

928
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: say that again, three quarters of Democratic voters want someone

929
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: other than Joe Biden. I mean, this is really fairly

930
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: unprecedented in terms of within your own party. You're in

931
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: the incumbent president and your own party is saying it's

932
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: time to step aside, like thank you for your service,

933
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: we got to move forward. Here's a little bit of

934
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: the details here that they say in terms of reasons

935
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: why Democrats want to move on from Biden. Twenty four

936
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: percent say they want someone else because they don't think

937
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: he can win. That's up from eighteen percent poll conducted

938
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: in January. Thirty two percent feel that way because they

939
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: don't want Biden to be reelected. That was actually the

940
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: largest number in terms of you know what they were

941
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: giving as their reason. So thirty two percent are just like,

942
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: we don't want him again, and that is up from

943
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,959
Speaker 1: sixteen percent, so magnificant jump there. And then twenty five

944
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: percent so they prefer Biden as the nominee. Back in

945
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: January February that was forty five percent. So already I

946
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: think we covered that pull back then because it was

947
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: a bare majority, and we're like, holy cow, that's a

948
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: lot of Democratic voters who are like, we want something else. Now,

949
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: it's up to seventy five percent. Voter's top decision criteria

950
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: right now is the way things are in the country.

951
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: And you know that's in terms of the midterms, and

952
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: obviously Democrats are the party in power, so not a

953
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: good sign for them as well. Yeah, I mean, the

954
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: vast majority of the American people and now vast majority

955
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: of the people in the Democratic Party don't want him

956
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: to run again, and yet he's probably the only viable one.

957
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: And look also at CBS is going to put this

958
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: on the screen. These are the battleground polls as we

959
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: head into the midterm elections. People are voting for Congress

960
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: based on who The way things are in the country

961
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: makes sixty percent what Democrats might do, which they have

962
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: generally intuited is nothing, sixty three percent what Republicans might do,

963
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: and fifty four percent on feelings about a particular candidate.

964
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: I think you can into it from that that this

965
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: isn't about Biden per se. People gave him a chance. Yeah,

966
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: many people think he's too old, all of that aside.

967
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: But if he was old and he was doing something,

968
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: a lot of people would say Okay, that's fine. But

969
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: the way that things are in the country at a

970
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: very basic moment, they're just saying this is terrible for me,

971
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: and just overwhelmingly you are watching this become just You're

972
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: watching this destroy Biden's presidency and get it to a

973
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: point where he is Jimmy Carter level unpopular. And you know,

974
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: the interesting thing is, you can turn that around. It

975
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: is true that also back in the nineteen eighties, many

976
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: people at this point in Ronald Reagan's presence, he apparently

977
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: didn't want him to run again in nineteen eighty four,

978
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: but there was actually a brutal recession in nineteen eighty two. However,

979
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: climbed out of it. Policy aside, you know whatever, he

980
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: was able to project an image to the American people

981
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: which led to the overwhelming victory in nineteen eighty four.

982
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: So it's not like that can't happen. Also, reverse roles reversed.

983
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: George W. Bush HW Bush had like a ninety something

984
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: percent approval rating at this point in his presidency and

985
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: he ended up losing in nineteen ninety two. So the

986
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: lots can change in the interim period. And while they

987
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: might be intuiting a little bit of that in terms

988
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: of the Chips Act and this mansion Shumer built at

989
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: its core, they're not doing anything about inflation, about gas,

990
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: about food, and really projecting the confidence that people need

991
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: to say, this guy is actually on top of this,

992
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: is working on my behalf. And that's really what it

993
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: comes down to for most people, even in terms of

994
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: Row versus Wade, individuals, individual issues like that. Yes, on

995
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: the margins appears to have been better for Democrats, but

996
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: those margins just are not going to be able to

997
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: overcome the general feeling of malaise of chaos that we

998
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: talk about in the airlines of supply chain. It's just

999
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: the general feeling that nothing works in the US economy,

1000
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: and people blame their president, and I think they should

1001
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: just don't think that's a way of looking at it.

1002
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: One of the things I'm going to be talking about

1003
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: in my monologue is Biden at this point very clearly

1004
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: is an albatross around the neck of midterm Democrats who

1005
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: are over I mean, who are actually really outperforming him

1006
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: at this point. And I think the fact that he

1007
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: has lost that sense of oh, this is the guy

1008
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: who's electable, this is we have to go with Joe

1009
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: because that's the way we're going to be able to

1010
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: win elections. That to me has been the most devastating

1011
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: blow for him ultimately, because that's the whole reason he

1012
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: got elected. I mean, people were not here before the

1013
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: Biden agenda. There were not Biden stands. They weren't you

1014
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: know that he didn't have this hardcore fan base or

1015
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: really any sort of particular vision for where direction you

1016
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: wanted to take the country. And Democrats chose him because

1017
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: they were told he was electable. Now that you have

1018
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: them looking at his approval ratings and saying, I don't

1019
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: know if this is going to be the guy who's

1020
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: going to be able to best the Republicans next time around,

1021
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: he's in really he's in really dire straits. I mean,

1022
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: his approval rating is underwater, I think in all but

1023
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: six states in the country. Like that's really really insane.

1024
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: So the fact that you have his numbers so poor

1025
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: and people so dissatisfied with the direction the government. Listen,

1026
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: this poll was taken before chipsacked and before this new mansion.

1027
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: Maybe it'll move the needle a little bit. Color me skeptical,

1028
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: And it is a pretty extraordinary circumstance that I can't.

1029
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: I just can't get around the fact or past the

1030
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: fact that you have two guys in Biden Trump, that

1031
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: most of the country is like, please not these guys,

1032
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: and is very likely that that's what you end up

1033
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: with next time around, in spite of the fact that

1034
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: so many people are desperate for another direction, someone else,

1035
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: anyone else, And yet because of the structure of the

1036
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: party system and how little actual democracy happens in the country,

1037
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: you're likely to end up with a matchup again between

1038
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: two people that really no one ultimately wants. You've got

1039
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: also a University of New Hampshire poll. Let's go ahead

1040
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: and put this up looking forward to a theoretical Democratic

1041
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four primary, and you've got Pete Bodhaji Gross

1042
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: tied with Joe Biden in the state of New Hampshire.

1043
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: So this is not one of those holes. A lot

1044
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: of times they'll pull Biden out and see, okay, if

1045
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: Biden doesn't run, who will know they left Biden in

1046
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: and he's still coming in. It's a statistical tie, but

1047
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: technically here he's second to Pete Boodagic in state of

1048
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: New Hampshire. Below that, you have Elizabeth Warren Gavin Newsom,

1049
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: Amy Klobash, ar Bernie, Kamala Harris is down? What is that?

1050
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: Number two, three, four, five, seventh place, Kamala Harris seventh

1051
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: place in New Hampshire, which perfectly illustrates or the bind

1052
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: that they're in, because even as you know, you actually

1053
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: see some of the elite mouthpieces and New York Times

1054
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: whatever sort of floating the idea like, oh, maybe Biden,

1055
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: maybe he's served a time, Maybe you shouldn't run again.

1056
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: How are you gonna get around the you know, next

1057
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: in line is Kamala Harris and how are you gonna

1058
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: be able to get past that? I think they've really

1059
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: put themselves in a quite a predicament here that it's

1060
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to get out of. And as much

1061
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: as you can theorize about Gavin Newsom or JB. Pritzker

1062
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: or any of these other people running, ultimately everybody on

1063
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: that list has said they are not going to run

1064
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: for president if Joe Biden is running again, and all

1065
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: indications are that Joe Biden is running again, so you

1066
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: were not going to have any of those choices on

1067
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: the list. I think that the poll is very illustrative.

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Speaker 1: If number one it actually proves out what people were saying,

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Speaker 1: the seventy five percent saying they don't want Biden to

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Speaker 1: run again. But it also does show you that the

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Speaker 1: people have a tremendous desire for something else, and it

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen to be Kamala Harris, who's the vice president

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Speaker 1: men knows to stay. It is extraordinary than in a

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Speaker 1: University of New Hampshire poll amongst actual Democratic primary voters

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Speaker 1: that the sitting president is not number one overwhelmingly and

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Speaker 1: even worse that his so called heir apparent, who is

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, is not even able to place higher than

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Speaker 1: an any Klobachar or a Gavin Knew someome I mean

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Speaker 1: even like Elizabeth Warren a guest. You know, geographic proximity,

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Speaker 1: same with Bernie. But Clobachar is from fricking Minnesota and

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Speaker 1: Buddha Jedges from Indiana. So how exactly did all that

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Speaker 1: work out? You are still given national name Ida. It's

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. You can't claim they don't know, Yes,

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00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: they do. They actually know you quite well, like they're

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Speaker 1: very familiar. Most of these people are absolutely gonna know

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Speaker 1: who she is, and they are conscious as saying absolutely

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00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: not and this is Democratic primary voters, so you can't

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Speaker 1: even come. Look, this is the person who didn't even

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Speaker 1: make it to Iowa. This is the person who was

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00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: being beat by at certain points Andrew Yang in California

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Speaker 1: state based primaries that were happening at the time. So

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Speaker 1: it's just humiliating for the administration on so many different levels.

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Speaker 1: And their only game is hoping Trump runs again, which

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00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: he probably will. So it is it is a true

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00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: doom spiral that shows us how broken everything is. Yes, indeed, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, the fun block democratic hypocrisy, and this is

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Speaker 1: one where how much do you hear? Yeah, look, Republican

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00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: hypocrisy was the eight blocks. So we've got a true

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Speaker 1: horseshoe going on here in the show. What do we

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Speaker 1: have right now? We have a situation where Democrats and

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Speaker 1: the media CNN all we hear constantly is democracy January sixth,

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Speaker 1: what zuros of Liz Cheney and Adam Kissinger are. And

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Speaker 1: yet whenever it came to money and dollars, the d

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00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: Triple C and the Democratic Party, not just as a

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00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: national organization but on a micro level, has spent now

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars propping up Republicans in primaries who are

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Speaker 1: pro stop the steal and whose support not only Trump's

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00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 1: vision of stop the steal, but possibly trying to overturn

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Speaker 1: an election in the future, something that they have claimed

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00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: is an absolute threat to American democracy. However, the millions

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00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: of dollars show us that they want to try and

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00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: prop these people up because they have a theory that

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Speaker 1: they'll be easier to beat. And we'll get to that

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Speaker 1: possibly in a second. However, Nancy Pelosi, whenever she was

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Speaker 1: confronted with this, something that even CNN is calling her

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Speaker 1: out for, she defends it one percent. Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 1: I said that we need a strong Republican party, not

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Speaker 1: a cult of personality. That didn't mean we shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: a strong Democratic party as well. And the political decisions

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Speaker 1: that are made out there are made and further rants

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Speaker 1: of our winning the election, because we think the contrast

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Speaker 1: between Democrats and Republicans as they are now is so

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Speaker 1: drastic that we have to we have to win. We

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Speaker 1: have to win. That's the justification for everything. But the

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Speaker 1: perfect articulation really wasn't just from Nancy. It was from

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Speaker 1: James Carville, who again you know, credit to CNN even

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Speaker 1: they're like, hey, come on now, like, how can you

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Speaker 1: talk about all this pro democracy stuff? But then Peter Meyer,

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Speaker 1: who's a person who voted for impeachment, is now having

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Speaker 1: dollars spent to prop up his Republican primary opponent who

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Speaker 1: is going after him solely for voting for Trump impeachment.

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Speaker 1: Hells a total lunatic. Yeah, and he has called their

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Speaker 1: rhetoric quote absolute bullshit Peter Meyer, and he's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you literally cannot square this. James Carville of course comes

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Speaker 1: out and defends her one percent, not just on the

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Speaker 1: tactics of it, but the morality of it. Let's take

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Speaker 1: a lesson. What do you think, James, I mean, is

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Speaker 1: your party playing with fire? I loved that woman. I

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00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: just worship her. And the idea of a political campaign

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00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: is to win the election. It acts in its own interests.

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Speaker 1: And let's take Pennsylvania, it clearly was in Josh Shapiro's interests.

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Speaker 1: If the Republicans nominate Doug Mastriano, I've done the same thing.

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Speaker 1: I would do the same thing. I don't see any ethical,

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Speaker 1: ormol problem with doing this. And again, I think most

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Speaker 1: of the opposition to this is from the pontifical class,

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00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: mostly located on the coast. I don't see anything wrong

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Speaker 1: with this. I think a lot of ordinary Americans would

1148
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Speaker 1: have trouble understanding why you were propping up some of

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Speaker 1: the worst, most range conspiracy theorists in the country. I think,

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Speaker 1: like I don't think regular people would have a hard

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Speaker 1: time understanding that or seeing that as extraordinarily gross. Peter Meyer,

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Speaker 1: who we've referred to a couple of times so again

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Speaker 1: as this Republican incumbent who voted again voted for Trump's

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Speaker 1: impeachment after January sixth, and who is facing, you know,

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Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist opponent in the GOP primary, and Democrats

1156
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: have decided to boost that dude, the crazy one, because

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Speaker 1: they think will be easier to beat in the general election.

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Speaker 1: He's out with a peace at common sense, and I

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Speaker 1: think he makes a really great point here. He says, Listen,

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Speaker 1: Party leaders like Sean Maloney, the head of the d

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Speaker 1: TRIBC that's their campaign committee, have claimed that we are

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Speaker 1: in an existential conflict between defenders of democracy and advocates

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Speaker 1: of authoritarianism. Quote it's not just about Trump, Representative Maloney

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Speaker 1: said late last month on MSNBC it's about a mega

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Speaker 1: Republican movement that's defined by serious, serious things like attacks

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Speaker 1: on our democracy. He warned, it's going to be those

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Speaker 1: maga Republicans who take away your rights, your benefits, and

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Speaker 1: your freedoms. So if you are in again the quote

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Speaker 1: an existential conflict between defenders of democracy and advocates of authoritarianism,

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Speaker 1: why are you propping up this side? I mean, it

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Speaker 1: really is gross. And listen, some of these things are

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Speaker 1: more theoretical than others. But we've talked about the fact

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Speaker 1: that Democrats backed Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania gives their

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Speaker 1: governor's broad parwsy you get to pick his own secretary

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Speaker 1: of state. This is someone who worked hand in glove

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Speaker 1: with Trump and his looty attempts to overturn the last election,

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Speaker 1: like he has come up in the January six hearings.

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Speaker 1: That's how central to the plot that he ultimately was.

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Speaker 1: And this is someone who Democrats intentionally tried to put

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Speaker 1: in a position to possibly win the governor's mansion in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, he will not tell Pennsylvania voters

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Speaker 1: who he would pick for secretary of state. Course she

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Speaker 1: won't of course, because you know, they would be horrified

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Speaker 1: if he did come on and actually be upfront with

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Speaker 1: them about who we would pick. This is. It just

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Speaker 1: shows you that all of the things that Democrats are

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Speaker 1: saying they don't really mean. They just don't really mean

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Speaker 1: it because you can't say the things they've been saying

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Speaker 1: and then go and get behind Canada's like this. Yeah, look,

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Speaker 1: I mean with Mastriano, we've laid it out. It could

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Speaker 1: legitimately ignite a constitutional crisis because of the amount of

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Speaker 1: deference Supreme Court actually gives states whenever it comes to

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Speaker 1: actually appointing their electors. So this would be some seriously

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Speaker 1: crazy stuff. And what I have come to believe with

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Speaker 1: the stop to Steal folks is believe them. They are

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Speaker 1: telling you what they want to do. They're like, we

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Speaker 1: think the election was stolen. They're like, we think that

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Speaker 1: we should be able to decide based upon criteria that

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Speaker 1: we arbitrarily decide. We're going to you know, fake around

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Speaker 1: ballot boxes and all that, and based upon that, we're

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Speaker 1: willing to literally appoint fake electors to ascend to Congress. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I believe you. I believe you when you say that.

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Speaker 1: And yet these people say that this is the biggest

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Speaker 1: threat to democracy in the history of the world. This

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Speaker 1: could ignite a civil war, and you're spending millions of

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Speaker 1: dollars to prop these people up. Look, Mastriano, polls aren't

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Speaker 1: great for him right now, guy could still win, yeah,

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Speaker 1: very easily. I mean, this is a state where Trump

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Speaker 1: lost by what one hundred fifty thousand votes something like

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Speaker 1: that in Pennsylvania. Biden, I have this in my monologue

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Speaker 1: talking about doctor Oz. He's at minus twenty five favorability.

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Speaker 1: The gas goes up by another dollar fifty between now

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Speaker 1: and election day. Yeah, I think Doug Mastriano could easily

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Speaker 1: become the next cover of Pennsylvania. Now what you have

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Speaker 1: a very big role talked previously. I think that Claire

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Speaker 1: McCaskill beating Todd Akeen and funding him may have been

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Speaker 1: one of the most over learned lessons in the history

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Speaker 1: of democratic politics. They're like, well, worked out this one

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Speaker 1: time in twenty twelve in Missouri, so let's do it

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Speaker 1: all the time. It's like, well, you know, sometimes Republicans

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Speaker 1: win elections despite whatever they may actually think, and you're

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Speaker 1: going to be in a real pickle nationally. But this

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Speaker 1: is all fake, because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: it's probably better for them if some of these people

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Speaker 1: do win, because they can say, oh, look how crazy

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Speaker 1: these people are. It's like, how do they spend all

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Speaker 1: this time talking about Marjorie Taylor Green? It's all fakes,

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Speaker 1: this whole thing. That is a good point too, is

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Speaker 1: that ultimately they will be They feel like they benefit

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Speaker 1: from like, the more insane the Republican Party is, the

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Speaker 1: less they have to do to prove to voters. They

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Speaker 1: can just say, look are those people. Those people are insane.

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Speaker 1: So it is kind of a does kind of work

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Speaker 1: out for them in the end, doesn't it? It's just

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Speaker 1: so disgusting, Crystal, what are you taken a look at? Well, So,

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Speaker 1: just over a month ago, Democrats absolutely completely doomed for

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Speaker 1: the midterms, and it was not hard to see why

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Speaker 1: party in the White House normally loses seats in the midterms.

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Speaker 1: Some eighty percent of voters ay the Guntry's on the

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Speaker 1: wrong track, and the president's approval rating has sunk to

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Speaker 1: historic loothes. Now, to my great surprise, the walking dead

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Speaker 1: Dems are showing a few signs of life. So here

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Speaker 1: is some of the latest evidence. Morning consult has independent

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01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: swinging from Republicans to Democrats. As recently as May, Dems

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Speaker 1: were losing Indies by three points, now they are winning

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Speaker 1: this key group by eight points. In fact, four recent

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Speaker 1: polls by GOP polsters have found Democrats claiming a lead

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Speaker 1: on the so called generic ballot by margin of three, four, five,

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Speaker 1: and six points over with Nat Silver at five thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: He is also out with new analyzes noting that Dems

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Speaker 1: moderately improve their chances at holding the Senate, and they

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Speaker 1: also have improved their positioning on that congressional ballot. His

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Speaker 1: Senate model has shifted to give Dems a narrow edge

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Speaker 1: in the odds with a fifty six percent chance of

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Speaker 1: holding on to the upper chamber, and his model on

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Speaker 1: the congressional ballot has also moved to a tie when

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Speaker 1: previously Dems were trailing by two to three points. That

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Speaker 1: was just earlier this summer. Now it is worth noting

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Speaker 1: that Democrats would actually need to win on that metric

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Speaker 1: the generic congressional ballot by several points in order to

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Speaker 1: overcome the GOP advantage in jerrymandering for them to be

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Speaker 1: able to hold the House. Listen not hard to build

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Speaker 1: a narrative about why Democrats might be gaining a little

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Speaker 1: bit of momentum right now. Horrific mass shootings in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: and you've all the focused attention on gun violence. January

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Speaker 1: six hearings have actually proved more effective than I expected

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Speaker 1: at reminding Americans just how chaotic, stressful, and disturbing Republican

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Speaker 1: reign ultimately was. And even more significantly, the Supreme Court's

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Speaker 1: decision overturning Roe versus Weight has put the craziest views

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Speaker 1: of the Republican Party on full display. Now, Democrats have

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Speaker 1: belatedly moved to highlight for voters just how extreme GOP

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Speaker 1: party electeds are on key social cultural issues, with votes

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Speaker 1: on gay marriage and also on access to contraception. Republicans

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Speaker 1: have also all on their own advanced laws that would

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Speaker 1: ban nearly all abortions and block interstate travel, which are

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Speaker 1: of course wildly out of step with public opinion. Now

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Speaker 1: there's a chance that this dem momentum could even pick

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Speaker 1: up a little more speed now that the parties shockingly

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Speaker 1: decided to actually dabble in a little bit of legislating.

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Speaker 1: They got the chipsacked through the Biden administrations finally decided

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Speaker 1: to act more aggressively on gas prices. They've got this

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Speaker 1: deal with Mansion on climate, although that is still a

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Speaker 1: long way from actual passage, and House stems are at

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Speaker 1: least pretending to get more serious about banning members, their spouses,

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Speaker 1: and their top aids from owning or trading stock. Overall,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it, your bets should still be on

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Speaker 1: the Republicans because Dems would need to overcome weighty historical

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Speaker 1: and political trends in order to pill off a win

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Speaker 1: in either of the House or in the Senate. Fifty

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Speaker 1: eight percent of Americans in a recent poll said that

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Speaker 1: we are in a recession right now. Inflation continues to bite.

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Speaker 1: Voters name the economy as their top issue, and they

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Speaker 1: say by a sizable margin that they trust Republicans more

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Speaker 1: on that issue. That set of facts should be thoroughly

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Speaker 1: damning for the party in power, and Biden is also

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Speaker 1: clearly a giant albatross around the party's neck. He is

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Speaker 1: massively underwater in every swing state and in every key

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Speaker 1: Senate battleground. In Georgia, his approval rating is minus thirteen.

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Speaker 1: In Pennsylvania, he's underwater by nineteen points. In Arizona, he's

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Speaker 1: minus twenty That is a gigantic mountain for Democratic candidates

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Speaker 1: in those states to try to overcome. Is Mark Kelly

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Speaker 1: really going to be able to outperform Biden by twenty

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Speaker 1: points in Arizona? Is John Fetterman and his epic trolling

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Speaker 1: enough to overcome a nineteen point disadvantage in the state

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Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania. History would say this presidential approval drag is

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Speaker 1: way too much to overcome, especially in an era when

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Speaker 1: parson views are hard. In Canada, performance as a factor

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01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: is pretty low. Republicans they seem determined to snatch defeat

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01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: from the jaws of victory with a huge assist from Trump.

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Speaker 1: They have lined up behind some truly astonishingly dreadful candidates.

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Speaker 1: Sager is breaking down today the Pennsylvania race where doctor

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Speaker 1: Oz is spending more time in Palm Beach and Europe

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Speaker 1: than in Pennsylvania. Over in Georgia, herschel Walker is being

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Speaker 1: trashed by his own aids as a pathological liar who

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Speaker 1: is totally unable to articulate a coherent policy position and

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Speaker 1: even accurately relate basic details of his bio. Even in Ohio,

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Speaker 1: j d Vance is proving a remarkably poor candidate with

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Speaker 1: low fundraising numbers and high negatives, who prioritize the trip

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Speaker 1: to a conservative conference in Israel over persuading voters on

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Speaker 1: the ground in his own state. Now, all three candidates

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Speaker 1: won their nominations because of Trump's backing ohioso read state now,

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01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: so Vance would have to do a lot more than

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Speaker 1: run an apathetic and disconnected campaign in order to lose.

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Speaker 1: But his fundraising struggles are actually echoed throughout the party. Typically,

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Speaker 1: fundraising totals ramp up as you get closer and closer

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Speaker 1: to election day, but Republicans they're seeing a collapse in

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Speaker 1: their grassroots fund raising. According to analysis of contributions via

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Speaker 1: the major Republican donation platform whin read, GOP donations have

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Speaker 1: actually dropped more than twelve percent in the second quarter

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Speaker 1: versus the first quarter. Over the same period, online contributions

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Speaker 1: to Democrats jumped twenty one percent. New York Times points

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Speaker 1: out that a single in battle Democratic incumbent Rafael Warnock

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Speaker 1: he raised more online than GOP candidates in Georgia, Wisconsin, Florida, Nevada, Ohio,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina, and Pennsylvania combined. Now, even though big GOP

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Speaker 1: donors are pouring money in to fill that gap. This

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01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: might be one of the clearest signs of an increasing

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Speaker 1: GOP malaise and Democratic resurgence. Republicans had enjoyed a significant

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Speaker 1: enthusiasm gap. These numbers are one possible indicator that Roe

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Speaker 1: has lit a bit of a fire under the Democratic base.

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Speaker 1: Now Tomorrow brings a slow of new tests and indicators

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Speaker 1: as to what the fall may actually hold. Arizona, Kansas, Michigan, Missouri,

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Speaker 1: and Washington voters all head to the polls and primaries

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01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: to pick their candidates for the fall. Will Trump back

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01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: Blake Masters prevail in Arizona. Not only does he want

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Speaker 1: a federal abortion band, but his website it actually says

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Speaker 1: he will only support judges who support overturning the Supreme

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01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: Court decision that guarantees access to contraception. Will Eric brightens

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Speaker 1: when the GP nomination in Missouri after b accused of

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Speaker 1: domestic violence, handing Demson outside chance in a deep red

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Speaker 1: state russ The most closely watched Tuesday result is actually

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Speaker 1: Kansas ballot measure. Kansas are set to decide whether they

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Speaker 1: want to retain the right to abortion that is currently

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Speaker 1: in their state's constitution. The measure could be an indicator

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Speaker 1: of just how much Roe has changed the game, just

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01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: how far outside of the mainstream Republicans have shifted, even

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Speaker 1: in a state like Kansas. Or it could be an

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Speaker 1: indicator of nothing really at all, given the unique dynamics

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Speaker 1: of that ballot initiative, just like the actual election. Overall,

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01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: the picture is very murky. But for Dames at this point,

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01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: murky is a hell of a lot better than the

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01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: clear destruction that they faced just weeks ago. I think

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Speaker 1: there has been a moderate improvement in DEM's position, And

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Speaker 1: if you want to hear my reaction to Crystal's monologue,

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Speaker 1: become a premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot Com. All right, saga,

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Speaker 1: what you are looking at? Well, everyone, it's time for

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Speaker 1: me to admit that I'm dead wrong again something I

1367
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: know my biggest haters always enjoy done monologues like these

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Speaker 1: in the past inflation Russia. Today it's time for me

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01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,839
Speaker 1: to eat some crow. One of my predictions that doctor

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Speaker 1: Oz would be a political powerhouse. I know it sounds ridiculous,

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Speaker 1: but at least let me explain before I get to

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Speaker 1: why he's floundering. I've always thought something basic politicians today

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01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 1: truly suck now. They probably always did, but in the

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Speaker 1: modern age, with the Internet and other methods of content,

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01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: it's easier than ever to see what somebody who is

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Speaker 1: real is speaking like and somebody who is fake. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: when I see these cable news interviews of politicians, I

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01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 1: just feel like I'm going to vomit. It's such obvious.

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Speaker 1: Bs Combine that feeling with the growing trend that these

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Speaker 1: politicians refuse to accept it and they just want to

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Speaker 1: be stars. Think about it. Do any of these people

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Speaker 1: actually want to govern anymore? No, they just want to

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01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 1: be famous. They want to be podcasters, they want their

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Speaker 1: tweets to go viral, they want to be celebrities. So

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Speaker 1: my thinking is this, if we're going to have the

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Speaker 1: Celebritization of politics, let's just have at least some decent

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Speaker 1: celebrities who know how to communicate, who are at least

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Speaker 1: good on TV when they're inauthentic, they are at least

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Speaker 1: talented at it. Hence, when doctor Oz announced, I was like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: this guy's going to be a powerhouse for this reason.

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Speaker 1: If you can make it on daytime TV as a star,

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Speaker 1: you have what it takes counter to what we always

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: want to be very good at politics. You have to

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Speaker 1: be able to simply communicate in an effective and short

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01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: period what you care about to the most amount of

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Speaker 1: people possible. Daytime TV, while Yes, Cringe is watched by

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01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: literally millions of people, most of them older who are

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Speaker 1: way more likely to vote, OZ himself is probably one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest daytime TV stars of the modern era.

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Speaker 1: Only Doctor phil Oprah, Judge Judy, and a few others

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01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 1: in the US even come close. Oz, while caught in

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01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: some very cringey weight loss scams, at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, held a tremendously popular hit TV show and

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01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: fostered a deep connection with millions of people who felt

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01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:52,480
Speaker 1: genuine warmth towards him. That sunny disposition combined with undeniable

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01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: charisma should have clicked. That's why Trump endorsed him, who

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01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: literally said in his statement Oz had fostered a deep

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Speaker 1: relationationship with women throughout his time on TV. Makes sense, right,

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01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: So what went wrong? Well, a couple of things. People

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Speaker 1: in PA had a point that he isn't really from there,

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01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: and throughout the GOP primary, the same reason I thought

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Speaker 1: he would be successful in politics is what dogged him.

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Speaker 1: Oz clearly does not believe anything. He's not maga. He's

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Speaker 1: not really anything at all. And frankly, I think that's

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Speaker 1: a skill. Trump's greatest skill is at whatever he said

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01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: was maga, It just wasn't rooted in any principle or ideology.

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Speaker 1: Ideological flexibility is how Trump had divergent views on trade,

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Speaker 1: on gay marriage, on healthcare, other issues that actually made

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01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: him far more electable than any Republican previously. Now that

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Speaker 1: actually works for Trump because he is Trump behind trump Ism.

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Speaker 1: But clearly Trump voters found something phony about doctor Oz

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Speaker 1: that didn't sit well. That's how coming out of the primary,

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Speaker 1: Oz felt himself deeply bruised. He had massive negatives across

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Speaker 1: the state. First, Democrats did not like Oz because he

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Speaker 1: was a Republican. He was just never going to win them.

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Speaker 1: But independence also intuited a general sense that Oz was

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Speaker 1: a carpetbacker all while GOP voters also had a negative

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Speaker 1: view of Oz coming out of a brutal primary. Combining

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Speaker 1: those three things you end up in a situation where

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Speaker 1: Oz has massive negative favorabilities right after the primary. So

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Speaker 1: the response is obvious, it's time to work your ass off,

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Speaker 1: it's time to spend a ton of money, It's time

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Speaker 1: to tie Joe Biden to John Fetterman and just simply

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Speaker 1: run a nationalized campaign. Yet the opposite has happened. Oz

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01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: has simply disappeared. He went dark. Despite having a professional

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Speaker 1: net worth of nearly four hundred million dollars, Oz is

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01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: nowhere to be seen. Wasn't up on TV with ads.

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Speaker 1: His tweets against John Fetterman were cringe and lame. In general,

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01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: he has not really been working hard at all. We

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Speaker 1: now know via Puck News Tera Palmieri, Oz wasn't just

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01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: not working in his mansion in New Jersey. He was

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Speaker 1: on vacation. Oz, it seems, while the Pennsylvania recount was

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Speaker 1: going on, was literally at one of his mansions in

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Speaker 1: Palm Beach, Florida, fundraising until at least June ninth, And

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01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: then after winning the primary, he didn't immediately hit the

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Speaker 1: ground running. He got on a plane to go visit

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Speaker 1: some of his family in Ireland. Look, if you're a

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01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: private citizen, that's fine, but dude, you need to get

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Speaker 1: to work. What are you doing. What's especially terrible about

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01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: this is at the same time he was abroad, he

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01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: was not on the air with TV, and that is

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01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 1: exactly when John Fetterman started his brutal campaign to paint

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01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: Oz as a carpet bagging, out of touch multimillionaire, which

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01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: you know, kind of true. In fact, the vacation was

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01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 1: so bad Mitch McConnell's NRSC organization, which is meant to

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01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: help Senate Republicans, was really upset with him and wanted

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01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: him to come back to you know, get to work.

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01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: And what's insane is that Oz is not even the

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01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 1: guy who has just suffered a massive stroke and was

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01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: combined to his hospital bet or house for weeks. He

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01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: had a huge leg up on Fetterman, and yet right

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01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: now even Fox News has him down by eleven points

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Speaker 1: across the entire state. Now, look, you you should remember

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01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: the Crystal and Sire rule of polling always add like

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01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: five points for a Republican. But with these polls, that

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01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: still puts him down by six. That's in his state

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01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 1: that trumpeling lost by one hundred and fifty thousand votes.

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Speaker 1: Now consider Joe Biden has a minus twenty five point

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Speaker 1: favorability rating in the state of Pennsylvania right now, It's

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Speaker 1: pathetic to find Oz in this situation. Furthermore, the limited

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Speaker 1: ads that Oz is running throughout Pennsylvania are fake and cringe.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to paint John Fetterman is some far left

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Speaker 1: Democrat and look Bernie Sanders' support and all that aside.

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Speaker 1: Fetterman codes as authentic to Pa because he's from there

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01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 1: and he's already won a statewide race. That's simply not

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01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 1: how people feel about him. But take a look at

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01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:32,759
Speaker 1: this ad. Sanctuary cities, weak prosecutors, crime skyrocketing. Failed liberal

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01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: policies are making us less safe. Yet John Fetterman wants

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Speaker 1: to release one third of prisoners and eliminate life sentences

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01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: for murderers. Emptying our prisons means more hardened criminals on

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Speaker 1: the streets. Incredibly, Fetterman says, get as many folks out

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01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: as we can. Crazy, dangerous ideas are hurting our communities.

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Speaker 1: We need a change. Doctor Oz and I approved this message.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, why talk about John Fetterman at all?

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01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: Talk about Joe Biden, Biden? Biden Biden, send Doctor Oz

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01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 1: to the US Senate to block Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

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01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: How hard is that? What's becoming clear is Oz was

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01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: not ready for this. Yes, he has star power, but

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01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 1: it seems that power sadly does not translate at all

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01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 1: to any actual political instinct. Worse, it seems that Mitch

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01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 1: McConnell crue is now running his campaign and his ads.

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01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: They're talking about how John Feederman is a socialist. That's

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01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: the same message that you've seen from a Republican for

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01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 1: the last thirty years. Just talk about gas doctor Oz,

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01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: talk about food, Blame Biden, say Fetterman supports Biden, which

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01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: he does. Run a picture of them together. The reason

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01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: I was excited about Oz was is I thought somebody

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01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 1: who can make it on TV, become a star like this,

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01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: should have the ability to positively deliver a message that

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01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: is not the same old bullshit. Yet that's what Oz

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01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: is apparently going with. Even when he does show up

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01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: to work. Nothing beats hard work, nothing beats something new fresh.

1503
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 1: Odd is sadly abandoning what made him great in the

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01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: first place, in lieu of a cookie cutter campaign that

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01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: is indistinguishable from national gop mession messaging in an election

1506
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: that should be a slam dunk. Worse, he has dealt

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01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: now with an opponent who is legitimately talented, as evidenced

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01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: by all of the brutal tyme of doctor Oz to

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01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: the state of New Jersey. So this is a long

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01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: way of saying that yes, Oz can and should still

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01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: turn it around. His start, Yes, has been a disaster.

1512
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: It's time for me again to say the words, I

1513
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: was really wrong about this one. And Crystal, I mean,

1514
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: it's kind of fascinating. It's just that. And if you

1515
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: want to hear my reaction to Sager's monologue, become a

1516
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot com. All right, with

1517
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: our little midterm madness or midterms road to Nowhere, whatever

1518
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 1: we call it, we have Kyle Condick rejoining the show. He,

1519
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: of course, is the great managing editor over at Larry

1520
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 1: Savage's Crystal Palletuvia Center for Politics. No relation, although I

1521
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 1: did attend of school. Great to see Kyle, as always,

1522
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 1: good to see you man, Good to be with you guys. Okay,

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01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: So we have some new numbers from CBS News in

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01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 1: US Gov that we can put up on the screen here.

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01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: They have done their big Battleground Tracker poll. They find

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: the Republicans in terms of the race for the House,

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01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: having a lead of about twenty five seats in that

1528
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 1: US House race. Their estimate as of today is that

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01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: Republicans would end up with about two hundred and thirty seats,

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01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 1: Democrats would end up with about two hundred and five.

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01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: Does that comport with roughly how you all are seeing

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01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: the election at this point? You know, it's our best

1533
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: guest right now is Republican gain is somewhere in the twenties.

1534
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,719
Speaker 1: So that's a little bit higher than that CBS News estimate,

1535
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 1: but it's pretty similar. And so you know, one thing

1536
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: you got to remember is that, you know, the Republicans

1537
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 1: are already starting with two hundred and thirteen seats they

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01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 1: wanted twenty twenty, and so expecting them to replicate nineteen

1539
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 1: ninety four or twenty ten they picked up I think

1540
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: was fifty four and ninety four and in sixty four

1541
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: in twenty ten, Expecting them to do that as unrealistic

1542
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: given the high point of starting with. I think both

1543
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: of those elections only went in with a little less

1544
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: than one hundred and eighty seats in both of those elections. So,

1545
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: you know, I obviously, look, any any House majority is

1546
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: a good House majority. Now, uh, you know, I think

1547
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: sometimes corralling your members, I think, particularly on the Republican side,

1548
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 1: they've had some trouble with that in the past. So

1549
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, the bigger it is, obviously, the easier it

1550
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: is to governor or to pass what you want. And

1551
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: I do think there's there's still more upside potential for

1552
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: Republicans in the House. But that CBS News you know,

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01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: you go estimates seems you know, relatively reasonable to me,

1554
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 1: and is you know, is pretty similar to what I'm seeing. Yeah,

1555
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: And so Kyle, what are the structural you know, underlying

1556
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 1: factors that belie an estimate like that? So how do

1557
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 1: you factor in both the overall polling environment generic ballots

1558
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 1: also the polling misses that we saw in the past.

1559
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: What's your general like thesis on forecasting this stuff? Uh, Look,

1560
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: the generic ballot, I think it sometimes underestimates Republicans, particularly

1561
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 1: at this point in the cycle. You know, if we

1562
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: look back eight years ago today, roughly the Democrats I think,

1563
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: actually had a narrow lead on the generic ballot and

1564
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: the Rokaler Politics average it was very close. And of

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01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: course that's an election where Republicans one two hundred and

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01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: forty seven House seats, which was their biggest House majority

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01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 1: since the Great Depression. And there are other instances twenty

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01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 1: twenty the House generic ballot underestimated Republicans too, and that

1569
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 1: underestimate made of them basically the whole way through. The

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01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,480
Speaker 1: Democratic lead was something like six seven eight points and averages,

1571
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 1: and Democrats won the national House popular vote by only

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01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: three and ended up losing about a dozen seats in

1573
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: that election. And so sometimes, for whatever reason, the generic

1574
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: ballot seems to pick up on Democratic leads that are

1575
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 1: real like that, they will pick up on them early,

1576
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: but the Republican leads sometimes break late. Twenty sixteen is

1577
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: another example of that, where Republicans narrowly won the House

1578
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 1: popular vote, but the generic ballot didn't really reflect that

1579
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: until right at the end. So I'm waiting to see,

1580
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: you know, after Labor Day, a lot of these polls

1581
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 1: are going to switch their likely voter models. A lot

1582
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 1: of the polls now are just registered voters, and so

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01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily trying to you know, figure out precisely

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01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: what the elee it is. And you got to remember

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01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: these these surveys. I still think they'd do a pretty

1586
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 1: good job, but you can't expect them to be perfect.

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01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: So that's that's a part of it too. There's a

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01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of science here, but there's

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01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: a lot of art too. Yeah. Well, I actually want

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01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: to stay on this topic because after twenty sixteen, there

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01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: was a real sort of like polster reckoning, and there

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01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: was a theory of why the polls missed some of

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01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: what was going on. It was like, oh, we weren't

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01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: looking at you know, the class divide, and we weren't

1595
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 1: factoring in enough people who just had a high school education.

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01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 1: So we fixed that and we're going forward. We've got

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01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 1: it this time. And then twenty twenty was, if anything,

1598
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: and even bigger miss Have there been Has there been

1599
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: any like figuring out of what went wrong and what

1600
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: polls seem to consistently underestimate the performance of Republicans in particular?

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01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 1: You know, the American Association of Public Opinion Research did this,

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01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 1: They spedled do this further offen to this post mortem

1603
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: of the polls, you know, after elections, and the report

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01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen did suggest, as you mentioned it, to

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01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 1: suggest some some fixes, and then I think a lot

1606
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 1: of pollsters did those fixes, and there were still some problems.

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01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: I guess I personally think that there is some sort

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01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: of subset of people who are likely to vote Republican

1609
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: who are harder to capture in polls for for for

1610
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: whatever reason, there's some indication that some of these folks

1611
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: have basically pretty low levels of social trust, and so

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01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: it's just hard for them, hard to get them to

1613
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 1: or members of that group to sort of like pick

1614
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: up the phone or to you know, respond to an

1615
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: online poll or whatnot. And so I think that there's

1616
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: still again a lot of challenges with the with the surveys,

1617
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 1: and and you know, I think it's also easy, like

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01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: I said before, it's easy to sort of like dump

1619
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 1: on the pollsters. But I you know, I don't think

1620
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: we ought to do that. Again. I still think they

1621
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: do a decent job. And for someone like me, who

1622
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 1: is in large part kind of reliant on the survey

1623
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: work that other people paid for, I find it to

1624
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: be kind of formed to just be sort of, you know,

1625
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: dumping on them all the time, which I try not

1626
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: to do, even though I think there are reasonable critique

1627
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 1: you can make of certain polls, and I, as I

1628
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: sort of interpret the landscape, I try to take away

1629
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 1: a grain of salt, like you could make an argument

1630
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 1: that the Democrats have in fact game grounds since the

1631
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: Dobbs decision in late June, and it does show up

1632
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 1: in the generic bout a little bit that the Senate

1633
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 1: polling is not bad at all really for Democrats, given

1634
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: that you know, the people don't feel bad about the

1635
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 1: economy and Joe Biden's rouvals in the thirties. But I'm

1636
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 1: just being a little cautious about it because I don't

1637
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: necessarily know if the environment has dramatically changed, And just

1638
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: in talking to people you know, who are involved in

1639
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: campaigns on both sides here, I don't necessarily know if

1640
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 1: they're seeing that either, although you know, I think Democrats

1641
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: are pointing to a few you know, hopeful signs here

1642
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 1: and there. I think it's a little too early to

1643
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: say though that the basic structure this election has changed, though, Yeah,

1644
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: I think that that is the best way in order

1645
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: to put the framework. So Okay, we've got you know,

1646
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: ninety nine days, I think to go until this thing

1647
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 1: happens in that period, What should we look for that

1648
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 1: are going to be the most important in shaping the election?

1649
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: Should it be the economic indicators, Joe Biden's overall approval rating?

1650
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 1: What are you going to look at which could adjust

1651
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: your overall forecast typically if people's perceptions of the economy

1652
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 1: are basically baked at this point. And that's why second

1653
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: quarter GDP is sometimes used as a as a as

1654
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 1: a factor in like forecasting models. This is more for

1655
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 1: like presidential races. And obviously second quarter GDP reflects the

1656
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: time that is a few months in the a couple

1657
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 1: of months in the past now, because that's April, May

1658
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: and June. And I also think that the sort of

1659
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: inflation and gas price indicators, like, I don't know, I

1660
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: just feel like even if there are big changes in

1661
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: sort of the facts on the ground, that people's opinions

1662
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: on that are are again sort of sort of baked.

1663
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 1: So I'm sort of looking at sort of enthusiasm measures,

1664
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: I think, with Democrats and to sort of see if

1665
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,600
Speaker 1: they in fact are enthusiastic to vote. I think that,

1666
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, again, the Senate, I think it's easier for

1667
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: Senate gubernatorial candidates to kind of you know, I think

1668
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: what Democrats trying to do is to point to the

1669
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,600
Speaker 1: sort of extremism and an experience of a lot of

1670
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: the Republican nominees this year, and they've got a lot

1671
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,919
Speaker 1: of fodder to work with. We'll see if that's actually

1672
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 1: that actually is you know, works. And you know, I

1673
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 1: typically think that like candidate debates generally don't matter much

1674
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: at all, like you know, goognatorial of Senate debates in

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01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 1: the fall or whatever. But I'm really curious to see

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01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 1: how the abortion issue comes up in debates because if

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01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: you remember back in twenty twelve, when Richard Murdoch kicked

1678
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: away the Indiana Senate race against Joe Donnelly that year,

1679
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 1: Murdoch made these kind of idiotic comments about abortion, and

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01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's not easy. It's not hard

1681
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: for me to imagine there being some big headlines that

1682
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 1: come out of debates because of kind of callous answers

1683
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: about abortion. And so that's something I think Democrats are

1684
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 1: hoping for too, you know, for Republicans, I think a

1685
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 1: lot of their playbook here is pretty clear, like Biden's unpopular,

1686
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 1: people are upset about the economy, tie the Democrats to

1687
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: bide and nationalize the election that way, and that's to

1688
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: be the more proven electoral path. But the Democrats have

1689
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: some things they can do too. Yeah much, do you

1690
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: think that that candidate quality matters? Because yeah, I mean

1691
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about Herschel Walker in a debate. I mean,

1692
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: he has struggled, even in friendly interviews. He's said things

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Speaker 1: that were basically every facet of his bio. He's said

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Speaker 1: things that were just blamed lives about he had all

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Speaker 1: these kids that he wasn't admitting to and meanwhile he's

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Speaker 1: out there saying like, oh, you have to be a

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Speaker 1: father in their kids' lives and all this stuff. So

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Speaker 1: Republicans have, partly with Trump's backing, nominated some very poor

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Speaker 1: candidates and very extreme candidates in key swing states like

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Speaker 1: Georgia and Pennsylvania and elsewhere. How much do you think

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Speaker 1: that that does ultimately matter? Is it just sort of

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01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 1: the national wins at this point? Look, I think I

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Speaker 1: could matter a lot. And I mean, frankly, Herschel Walker

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Speaker 1: is one of the candidates I was thinking about in

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Speaker 1: terms of debates. And there's actually been this back and

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Speaker 1: forth between Refo Warnock, Democratic incumbent there and Walker about

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Speaker 1: whether they're going to have debates or not. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know at this point if anything is actually scheduled.

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Speaker 1: And I can sort of understand it, particularly from Walker's side,

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Speaker 1: if they maybe didn't want to put their candidate in

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Speaker 1: that sort of position. But I also think about, like

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Speaker 1: if you think back to twenty fourteen when the Republicans

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Speaker 1: last you know, flip the Senate from Democratic control and

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Speaker 1: they ended up picking up nine seats that year. A

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Speaker 1: lot of them were sort of like states that were

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Speaker 1: Republican that really had no business liketing Democratic senators these days,

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Speaker 1: like Arkansas and Louisiana. But you look at the candidates

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Speaker 1: that the Republicans had that year, you know, it was

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Speaker 1: like former governors or sitting members of the House, or

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01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 1: it was like you know, state level officials, that sort

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Speaker 1: of thing. You know, a lot of the candidates this

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Speaker 1: year don't really have any political experience at all. You know,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned herschel Walker memdas the TV doctor in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: The two likeliest nominees that probably Blake Masters in Arizona

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Speaker 1: that that primaries tomorrow, you know, JD. Vance in Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Like I could go on here, but it's it really

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01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: is reflective of a party that is really elevating a

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Speaker 1: lot of people who don't have political experience and sometimes

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Speaker 1: you know, being an outsider not having a voting record,

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Speaker 1: that can be good, but also sometimes those candidates end

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Speaker 1: up making more mistakes, but there's seven before. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: such a good point anyway, these are all the things

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Speaker 1: we'll be watching because we trust Kyle over here on

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Speaker 1: breaking points. Thank you so much for joining us, sir.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate it, Kyle always, absolutely man. Thank you

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