1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norwy with you 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: along with Professor James McKenny. A few years ago, James 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: wrote a book called The Real History of Man on Earth, Myths, 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: Magic and Mayhem. Tell us about that title, James. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 3: Well, it was born out of necessity. Here's the problem. 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: You have the old school archaeologists who talk about the 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: dating what we considered the traditional dating of the Egyptian 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: pyramids and history going back to say, the crossing of 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: the Bearing straight by wandering tribes killing mastodons or whatever. 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: And then what happened is you have kind of a 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: new group of people coming in who claim that that's 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: all wrong, which I agree with. But the problem is 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: they come in with their own dating strategies. In what 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying in the book is basically, we don't know 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: what word we're discovering things. And I lived in Mexico 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: as a young person. I was at pyramid sites where 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: they had ten feet of dirt on top of the 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 3: pyramids and they were attributing them to the Aztecs. Well, 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: it's insane. These were far pre Aztec in near Mexico City. 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: So the whole dating structure. So you have the new 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: people coming in giving a dating structure and claiming that 24 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: asteroids hitting Earth caused human disasters, earthwise disasters. But there's 25 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 3: no holes, there's no craters in planet Earth that would 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: be of the magnitude that were to be Earth changing 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: in the timeframe we're talking about three to five thousand 28 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: years ago, or even ten thousand years ago, we would 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: have big, big craters. And so the new people coming 30 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: in are giving this time structure, which is bogus. Also, 31 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: so the book is trying to just plead with people 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: stop putting dates on things. We know that man has 33 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: been on this planet for a long time. I've been 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: saying that for a very long time. And so that's 35 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: basically the point of the book is the real history 36 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 3: of man on Earth and also saying that it's okay 37 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: to say we don't know. There are so many structures 38 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: now with lighter where they can see structures under the ground. 39 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 3: The whole world is filled with these and if you 40 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: dig down one hundred feet almost any place, you're going 41 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: to hit human civilization remnants. So we don't know. I 42 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: mean this Earth has been pummeled many times. One thing 43 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: I'm dealing with also is pole shifts, and there's so 44 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 3: much misinformation about poll shifts out there, between the difference 45 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: between magnetic pole shifts and physical poll shifts. I hear 46 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: people all the time talking about magnetic pole shifts. Oh, 47 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 3: that we're going to have a magnetic pole shift and 48 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: it's going to flip the Earth. And the reality is, 49 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: we have magnetic pole shifts probably twice a month, and 50 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: the Earth is not flipping on its axis. It's very different. 51 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 3: A physical pole shift requires a passing large body by 52 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: Earth to cause a physical poll shift. And we know 53 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: that the old Laurentian ice Cap was a was the 54 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: old North Pole. The old North Pole was in what 55 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: we now call Hudson Bay. And there have been many 56 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: pole shifts. So that means that many times large comet 57 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: and we're talking the size of maybe Venus type size 58 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: or larger have come by Earth and radically changed the 59 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: surface of Earth. And many of those events were when 60 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: we had human populations on Earth. 61 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: What are more prevalent, what are more prevalent James pole 62 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: shifts that are magnetic or physical? 63 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: Well, the magnetic ones, like I say, happen all the time. 64 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: And what happens is it's in the solar wind is 65 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: a magnetic field, and if it typically is matched with 66 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: ours north to north, but if it comes out and 67 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: it's strong enough in the north pole is facing downwards, well, 68 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: the opposite of Earth's magnetic field. Most of Earth's magnetic 69 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: field is plasma magnetic field. So it flips it and 70 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 3: we can see some weather effects and things like that. 71 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: But this happens all the time, maybe not twice a month, 72 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 3: but it's frequent, and so it's not the kind of 73 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: thing that will flip the surface of the Earth over 74 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: on its axis. And cause of pollshift, the physical pole 75 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 3: shift is it's like a gymnast. Gymnasts in outer space 76 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: is not going to fare very well because they don't 77 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 3: have any frame of reference. They don't have anything to 78 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: push against, they don't have bars, So they're trying to 79 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: do gymnastics in space with no equipment. It's not going 80 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: to work. And that's the situation with Earth. We don't 81 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: have The Earth is spinning, the core is spinning, So 82 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: the only way to have a pole shift is for 83 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: something big to come by and send a gravitational wave 84 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: into the manteline crust of Earth and shift them over 85 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: the spinning core, which is basically molten. So anyway, that's 86 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: the big difference in the pole shifts. The physical poll 87 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: shifts are really very rare, but they're more common than 88 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: what people believe. Standard astronomy says that the planet Earth 89 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: formed four and a half billion years ago and nothing 90 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: has happened since. And it's just the evidence is overwhelming 91 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: that we've had many pole shifts, which means many times 92 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: large objects have come by Earth and done a lot 93 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: of damage. We don't have a lot of history of that. 94 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: Why do they say things like magnetic pole shifts, birds 95 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 2: will smash in the buildings, everything will be in chaos. 96 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it would happen every month. We would 97 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: have ongoing disasters because it's a very common for the 98 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: solar magnetic field to flip. It's a very common event, 99 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 3: and so and you don't see that, and so there's 100 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: a lot of confusion. I see it all the time. 101 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 3: People send me, Oh, they were going to have a 102 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: poll flip here coming up, and they make a prediction, 103 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: or they talk about a pole shift in the past 104 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 3: or something, but they're talking about the magnetic pole and 105 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: they're trying to claim that it's going to cause a 106 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: physical pole shift, and that's simply not true. Yeah, the 107 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: physical pole shift is very rare, isn't it. Oh yeah, 108 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: it's something, but we've had them in historical times, and 109 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 3: the ancients refer to that. You know, almost every ancient 110 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 3: culture refers to the most recent one. And there again, 111 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: I don't put dates on these. There are people like 112 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 3: Belakowski that put a date of fifteen hundred BC, and 113 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: it's the best dating that I've seen, but I wouldn't 114 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: hang my hand on it myself. It could have been 115 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: a lot longer. I mean, we just don't have a 116 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: lot of history to the basis on. All we know 117 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: is that these stories come down from every ancient culture. 118 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: We also have the Great Flood, which was not a 119 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: pol shift. There was simply a flood of water that 120 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: came from outer space when Earth passed through the tail 121 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: of a large comet. And so these events have happened 122 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: in the past. But the poll shifts are really rare. 123 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: I mean, there might be millions of years between physical 124 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: pol shifts. We don't know. 125 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: It is truly remarkable. Do other planets go through shifting. 126 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, Mars did. In fact, there's evidence that ancients 127 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: talked about Mars being a blue planet and having oceans, 128 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: and it has all the characteristics, all the surface characteristics 129 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: of recent water. I've been in like American Geophysical Union 130 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: meetings with NASA geologists, and under their breadth they will 131 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: tell you that all of the erosion on Mars is recent, 132 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: but they can't say it. It's politically incorrect. It's probably 133 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: might lose your job at NASA if you say that. 134 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: But in a closed setting, in a private meeting, they 135 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: will tell you that that and you can see it 136 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: if you take the in the center of my weather book, 137 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 3: the Prince Hippia Mediologia Physics of Some on Earth Weather, 138 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: I've got eight plates that cover the entire surface of Mars, 139 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: and you can see the water erosion on a grand scale, 140 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: and if you get down really on a microscopic scale, 141 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: Mars has very recent erosion patterns. And Mars has these 142 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: dust storms every year that if that were billions of 143 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: years ago, all of that surface structure would be blown 144 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 3: away and erode it away with dust storms happening all 145 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: the time there. So it's just proof that Mars had 146 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: oceans and atmosphere and water recently, and so it was 147 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: a victim of a large passing comet. And the ancients 148 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: talk about Mars being a blue planet at one time. 149 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: Are pollshifts dangerous Jim. 150 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, you would not want to be in one. 151 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: As the earthquake level, because people have asked me about this, 152 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: because we're talking about physical movement of the crust and 153 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 3: mantle of the Earth, it would be maybe on a 154 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: Richter scale, maybe twenty to twenty five, that would be 155 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: the level of upsetting the apple cart on planet Earth, 156 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: so tremendous. And this is the cause of mountain building. Also, 157 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: plate tectonics does not explain mountain building. The only thing 158 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: that explains mountain building is literally a land tsunami from 159 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: a large passing object. In that land wave, as the 160 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: energy hits up against the existing mountain range, that all 161 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: that energy goes into up thrust mountains and that's the 162 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: way mountains are formed. We have a Native American history 163 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 3: that they talk about verbal legends where they talk about 164 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: mountains being formed overnight. The Mayans talk about it. The 165 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: Mayans talk about ketzl Quaddle, which was Venus, the plume serpent, 166 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: god of the night sky. Whose heart became the planet Venus, 167 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: causing mountain building. And so these legends come down. So 168 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: there was apparently one recent one and then before that 169 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: maybe thousands of years, ten hundred thousand. We don't really 170 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: have a good history of that, and so and I'm 171 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: not going to be one to put dates on things. 172 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: It's just that we know these things happened. There's evidence 173 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: and that man made structures followed these different pole shops 174 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: when I was when I was young, like I say, 175 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: I lived in Mexico, I visited chichen Itza long before 176 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: it was a tourist attraction. But then I went back 177 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: in the nineties and with equipment to survey chichen Itza 178 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 3: and tuloom Uxmal and chichen Itza is thirteen and a 179 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: half degrees off the cardinal coordinates. It's not aligned with anything. 180 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 3: And that's because they came along and they built the 181 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: they rebuilt the city on the old gridwork, which was 182 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: and if you look at the the take the coordinates 183 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: of those different cities, they all meet up in Hudson's Bay, 184 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: which was Other people have said that Hudson Bay was 185 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: an old north pole what's his name, Hapgood and was 186 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 3: one of them, but you can. Yeah, the Chichen Eats 187 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: is not built on the cardinal coordinates up to it's 188 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: way off thirteen and a half degrees off. So anyway, 189 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: we have a lot of this evidence. It's just that 190 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: we're not sure when these things happened. And like I say, 191 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: my book The Real History of Man and Earth, Mythsmagic 192 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 3: and Mayhem, is about not putting dates on things, not 193 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: trying to assign dates because we really don't know. 194 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: With Professor James McKenny talking about pullships talking about artificial intelligence, 195 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: his website is linked up at Coast tocoastdan dot com. 196 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: We're going to take calls with him next hour here 197 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: on Coast to Coast. Can pullships be devastating to humanity? 198 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely Yeah, they're going to rock the human race 199 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: to the core. And the thing is, before these, apparently 200 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: there were large human populations on Earth, very well defined 201 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: popular relations, and they were able to survive. So the 202 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: human race has gone through many of these. It's just 203 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 3: that today's scholars deny it. They say, oh, no, nothing happened. 204 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: Earth is was formed four and a half billion years ago, 205 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: and really nothing has happened since except maybe a few 206 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: minor asteroid collisions or something like that that maybe killed 207 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: the dinosaurs, and that's really not the case. The big 208 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: events were due to large passing comets. 209 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: It's scary, isn't it. 210 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: Well, I don't anticipate any in the near future. There's 211 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: no evidence that this is going to happen soon. Are 212 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: they predictable, Well in a sense, yeah, but they can 213 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: be something that's on short notice, because say that the 214 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 3: trip for like a comet like Hailbop, which is a 215 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: medium sized comet, not a really big one, but it 216 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 3: was in the solar system for six years from this 217 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: time of discovery it's through the nineties. And but that's 218 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: relatively short notice, you know, the three four year notice 219 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: is not very much. 220 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 221 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: one am Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot 222 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: com for more