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Speaker 1: have you long on another snowy cold night with many
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Speaker 1: you up with some football conversation thanks to our producers
Speaker 1: Jordan tread Up, Dan Barelli, and Brandon Fryer, along with
Speaker 1: help from Herb Lawrence. A lot going on in the
Speaker 1: NFL after the wrap up of the Super Bowl. It's
Speaker 1: all focused now on who's going where and why and
Speaker 1: filling out coaching staffs. The carousel of quarterbacks will certainly dominate.
Speaker 1: We've touched on that for many weeks, will continue to
Speaker 1: do so as the rumor milk turns out a bunch
Speaker 1: of maybe half baked truths, and maybe there's some good,
Speaker 1: good information in there, but it is the lying season,
Speaker 1: so you gotta be on your guard about it all.
Speaker 1: But we'll break it all down with Jim Miller from
Speaker 1: Serious Sex MNFL radio coming up at the round six
Speaker 1: h eight, and then Olan Crutz at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the hour, the Bears officially making senior defensive assistant Mike
Speaker 1: Petton and official hire coming over from the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers as defensive coordinator, and we welcome in Tom Thare
Speaker 1: from the warm island of Maui. Buddy, how you doing?
Speaker 1: Oh man? I hate when you do that introduction because
Speaker 1: every time I look at the weather report back home,
Speaker 1: I feel so bad for the people that are suffering
Speaker 1: through another polar vortex in the Midwest. So I can't
Speaker 1: deny it's it's nice here, it's pleasant. But when you
Speaker 1: talk about the new Bears hiring, I'm excited about it.
Speaker 1: I love bringing a guy aboard that is not going
Speaker 1: to have to be taught about the division, about the
Speaker 1: personnel groupings. I think there really expedite how influential he
Speaker 1: can be in the brand new start of the career.
Speaker 1: Sean to say, so, I'm excited for both of them.
Speaker 1: I think they have the opportunity to fit well together
Speaker 1: and work well together. So on the outside looking in
Speaker 1: you say, well, okay, you know this is a completely
Speaker 1: new defensive staff, but it's not. There are three new
Speaker 1: defensive coaches, but there are other coaches. Make it four
Speaker 1: defensive coaches that are brought in new and then coaches
Speaker 1: now in new responsibilities, beginning with John. Decide we're gonna
Speaker 1: hear from him on Monday, you have his first introductory
Speaker 1: news conference as a defensive coordinator. But he's been around
Speaker 1: a long time. He knows the personnel. Just want to
Speaker 1: be most intrigued by what is the slant he's going
Speaker 1: to put on this defense? Well, first question, if I
Speaker 1: was in the in the audience, I would ask him
Speaker 1: who's his biggest influence because as when we met Sean
Speaker 1: in the NFL level, you know you got influence from
Speaker 1: the Fangiel Then he got influencers from Chuck last year,
Speaker 1: so you know who what resonated with him? What did
Speaker 1: he feel out from the coaches that he was learning
Speaker 1: from m SO and I'm just really excited to see
Speaker 1: how Sean presents himself in front of the media. We've
Speaker 1: got a lot of examples from the Zoom calls this
Speaker 1: past year, but really, when the whole meeting is surrounded
Speaker 1: by you as a hire and what you're doing in
Speaker 1: the future, I'm really interested to see what happens Monday. Well.
Speaker 1: I think he'll do fine in that role. He does
Speaker 1: have some relationship obviously with the Chicago media since doing
Speaker 1: stuff even even on the Bears Coaches Show on w BBM.
Speaker 1: Over the years when we were able to do all
Speaker 1: the assistant coaches and they we transitioned into just doing coordinators.
Speaker 1: You learned a lot about these assistant coaches and at
Speaker 1: the at the beginning of his NFL career, learning a
Speaker 1: lot about his ability to be a teacher. Number one,
Speaker 1: That's what he was going to be. He was going
Speaker 1: to be a teacher. They call him Doc for a reason,
Speaker 1: you know, they do trust him and in football intelligence
Speaker 1: and just his overall intelligence. How that translates, it's now
Speaker 1: calling your defense will be the biggest, the biggest insight
Speaker 1: that we can learn over the course of the sea
Speaker 1: and we won't find that out until the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, over the course, when Sean came aboard
Speaker 1: to the Barrass facility and we would get there super
Speaker 1: early on Monday mornings and Tuesday mornings, he was already
Speaker 1: there filtering information for the next opponents. So this is
Speaker 1: something that he's invested a lot of football time into,
Speaker 1: learning about different offenses, different personnel, different types of schemes,
Speaker 1: and then how they all fit into place with the
Speaker 1: coordinators that he's worked with. So this is not something
Speaker 1: that he hasn't invested in. He's put a lot of
Speaker 1: time of himself and his family in order to get
Speaker 1: this opportunity presented to him. And listen, bearrass fans, I
Speaker 1: mean this is going to be a Vic Fangio type.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure they be some blends here. You've
Speaker 1: got all sorts of different influences on this defensive coaching
Speaker 1: staff now, but it was Vic who you know he'd
Speaker 1: love to have brought Sean decided to Denver. Mike Petton
Speaker 1: worked with Vic fan Joe in Baltimore. He was a
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's head coach at one point. There's all kinds
Speaker 1: of angles to this. Bill McGovern will be your inside
Speaker 1: linebackers coach. Bill Shoey, the outside linebackers coach already in
Speaker 1: the system to shade Townsend. Obviously, Mike Adams has just
Speaker 1: shortly been removed from the NFL and now he's an
Speaker 1: assistant secondary coach with sixteen years of experience. Ron L.
Speaker 1: Williams and Shane Toberre defensive quality control coaches. So a
Speaker 1: lot of names we've heard, we just don't know a
Speaker 1: lot about them because they've had other background jobs. You know,
Speaker 1: it's interesting the foundations of the coaches that we've got
Speaker 1: to meet because we were when we met Matt Maggie's father.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a football player. It's a blue collar guy.
Speaker 1: And to talk about the experience. When you look at
Speaker 1: the father of Mike Patton, if you ever look at
Speaker 1: his career in what he was able to accomplish as
Speaker 1: a high school coach over thirty three seasons, he had
Speaker 1: like a three hundred and forty two and twenty four
Speaker 1: record with multiple stage championships. So it's just more of
Speaker 1: you learn about the backgrounds of these dedicated coaches and
Speaker 1: you think of some of the biggest influences in their life,
Speaker 1: and it's those types of people, and Mike was a
Speaker 1: heck of a high school football coach. Also, Pennsylvania. You're
Speaker 1: born and bred, so you got a lot of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: You're coming through here, that's for sure. All right. When
Speaker 1: we come back, we take our first break. Jim Miller
Speaker 1: from Serious Sex M NFL Radio. The Bears two thousand
Speaker 1: and one, starting quarterback in their playoff drive at Soldier
Speaker 1: Field and getting beat by the Philadelphia Eagles, and our
Speaker 1: guy Hugh Douglas. Oh what would have been? What would
Speaker 1: have been? I tell you, Dick Giron always said, if
Speaker 1: Jim just could have stayed healthy, That's what he always
Speaker 1: kept saying. We'll talk to Big Jim all the crews
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour. It's all coming up
Speaker 1: by Bears All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy
Speaker 1: the Score. Hey Bears fans are shopping for your game
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Speaker 1: chip of your Chicago Bears. Go Bears. Jeff Joning, Act,
Speaker 1: Tom Bear, and we Walcome in Jim Miller from Serious Sex,
Speaker 1: m NFL Radio, Moving the Chains with Pat Kirwin, Big Jim,
Speaker 1: how you feeling I I'm doing great, Jeff, Tom always
Speaker 1: good to be with you guys. Hey, we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the post super Bowl first of all, but real
Speaker 1: quick on the quarterback carousel. Everybody thinks because Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: at least this is my impression from what pepar he's
Speaker 1: bugging me about. Hey, you know one of the Bears
Speaker 1: is gonna get a quarterback or what are they doing
Speaker 1: at quarterback? How come it hasn't happened yet. Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: gets traded and everybody thinks it's all gonna happen at once.
Speaker 1: Tell people that this is going to be a process
Speaker 1: for a lot of different reasons. One, not going to
Speaker 1: rush into anything. Roster bonuses aren't due until mid March
Speaker 1: from In most cases, there's the vetting process of exactly
Speaker 1: what the salary cap is going to be. If you're
Speaker 1: a team, you don't want to get put yourself in
Speaker 1: a bad bad spot because of what the salary cap
Speaker 1: might be for twenty twenty one, Nbond Absolutely, I think
Speaker 1: teams want to get themselves fiscally, you know, in order
Speaker 1: get their house in order with the financials, because you're
Speaker 1: you're going to see a lot of guys out there.
Speaker 1: I mean there are teams like New Orleans is two
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars over the cap. I mean there are
Speaker 1: teams out there that are that are like that right now.
Speaker 1: So you're going to see a lot of reductions, a
Speaker 1: lot of restructures, a lot of releases just where they
Speaker 1: may approach a player player said I'm not taking a
Speaker 1: pay cut. Well, teams got to get under the salary cap.
Speaker 1: They may be releasing players that are out there. So
Speaker 1: you're not going to see any players, at least quarterbacks
Speaker 1: signed from that standpoint. So let's say like Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: Dallas right now is over the cap. They can't you know,
Speaker 1: they're not going to start negotiating with their quarterback just yet,
Speaker 1: or do they have to place the tag on him,
Speaker 1: because if they have to place a forty million dollar tag,
Speaker 1: second tag on Dak Prescott, that's going to significantly affect
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and what they'll have to maneuver in
Speaker 1: order to stay under the salary cap. Or he may
Speaker 1: just be out there and be a free agent. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that happens, but there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things in this quarterback market that are really gonna you know,
Speaker 1: affects some things and why teams will go about this slowly.
Speaker 1: I know Carson Wentz has been in the news quite
Speaker 1: a bit. To me, he's worth pennies on the dollar
Speaker 1: right now, and that's why I think the latest report
Speaker 1: was that they've been talking to the Colts. The Colts
Speaker 1: actually want more compensation. If they're going to take on
Speaker 1: that big contract, we will be getting more than everybody thinks. Oh,
Speaker 1: they'll just give up to first round picks for Carson Wentz. No,
Speaker 1: he's not worth that because his contracts so big. So
Speaker 1: there's could be a lot of interesting things I have,
Speaker 1: But quarterbacks will be in the news a lot this
Speaker 1: offseason because there'll be a ton of guys that are
Speaker 1: out there and potentially could become available. We know what's
Speaker 1: going on with Watson, we know what's going on with
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson out there. Russell's interesting. I doubt Seattle gives
Speaker 1: them away or trades him, but I guess, you know,
Speaker 1: if you sweeten the pot and make it so ridiculous
Speaker 1: that they would move him. The reason why you like
Speaker 1: Russell when why teams have been called his contracts really
Speaker 1: friendly the next three years. You can get him for
Speaker 1: like three years seventy billion dollars. That's pretty good for
Speaker 1: a player of that caliber. That's why a lot of
Speaker 1: teams Seattle, Big Jim. You know, it's something you know,
Speaker 1: we're sitting here talk about the quarterback position. And I
Speaker 1: think Brady really confused the situation because now people, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're looking for a long term solution
Speaker 1: for the type of team you have surrounded, or are
Speaker 1: you looking for that gun slinger like Brady. So when
Speaker 1: you look at the first deal that went down with
Speaker 1: the Jared Goff and Matthew Stafford, it seemed like they
Speaker 1: immediate try to capitalize on the success at Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: and then a big picture of the super Bowl being
Speaker 1: there next year. So to me, when you look at
Speaker 1: all these quarterbacks, because you know, Russell Wilson still has
Speaker 1: something left in the tank. Obviously Deshaun Watson's a young man.
Speaker 1: But when you look at what Indianapolis tried to do
Speaker 1: last year of Philip Rivers and is that their mentality?
Speaker 1: Are they looking for long term stability at quarterback. So
Speaker 1: I think Brady really kind of went and kind of
Speaker 1: confused what every team's dream is looking forward at the
Speaker 1: quarterback position. Yeah. Well, it's interesting because you know, Carolina
Speaker 1: was in on that Matthew Stafford deal too. They were
Speaker 1: going to give up their number twelve overall, but ultimately
Speaker 1: the Lions acquiesced and let you know, Stafford kind of
Speaker 1: drove it. Hey, he's been a good, solid citizen. He
Speaker 1: has been the face of the franchise, almost like how
Speaker 1: Alex Smith. You know, Andy Reid went to Alex Smith
Speaker 1: and said, hey, where do you want to be? We've
Speaker 1: got this guy Patrick Mahomes and Alex said, Hey, I'd
Speaker 1: like to go to Washington, And that's why Alex was
Speaker 1: trade there. And it's kind of the similar situation Detroit
Speaker 1: because Matthew's been nothing but a good soldier for the Lions. Hey, Matthew,
Speaker 1: where do you want to go? And he wanted to
Speaker 1: go to the La Rams and so that's what kind
Speaker 1: of drove those deals. But Carolina was interested because they're
Speaker 1: thinking of future and Matthew still has many years ahead
Speaker 1: of them, and I think teams are looking that way
Speaker 1: at Carson Wentz. His best football literally should should be
Speaker 1: ahead of them. So I would think Carolina will probably
Speaker 1: make that call to Philly as well, and there'll be
Speaker 1: more teams I think, start starting to get into this
Speaker 1: mix for potentially Carson Wentz. All right, can I ask
Speaker 1: you as this question though, this whole thing about it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting to me because the NBA, obviously,
Speaker 1: the great players in the NBA can create a lot
Speaker 1: of their own destination. I think Lebron started that whole
Speaker 1: process years ago. But you know now because of Brady
Speaker 1: leaving New England going to Tampa winning a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You know that Aaron Rodgers wasn't pleased that Jordan Love
Speaker 1: was selected last year. And now the Russell Wilson, who
Speaker 1: I admire. I think he's an outstanding quarterback and leader
Speaker 1: in a really good face for a franchise, but coming
Speaker 1: out strong, you know about getting hit and whatnot. There's
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to old Cruts about this at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the yar. I'm interested in his opinion as well,
Speaker 1: and you as players and Jim as a quarterback. The
Speaker 1: one thing a team has to do what it has
Speaker 1: to do, even as it regards Wentz, he never said
Speaker 1: anything about it, but the insinuation is he didn't appreciate
Speaker 1: the drafting of Jalen Hurts. You got to accept competition,
Speaker 1: I mean at every position, including that one. I just
Speaker 1: don't understand that type of thinking. As a guy who's
Speaker 1: analyzed football here for the last twenty five thirty years,
Speaker 1: I don't get that part. Do you believe that's okay?
Speaker 1: Or do you guys both believe that that's an unnecessary reaction? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think players got to understand, and you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's one thing for a player to say why I
Speaker 1: want to be involved in personnel decisions. I mean that
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen and it shouldn't happen because you've got scouts,
Speaker 1: You've got people that that do that job. I mean,
Speaker 1: no offense to Russell Wilson, he's not scouting through all
Speaker 1: these wide receivers or all these offensive linemen and watching
Speaker 1: every snap. They've drafted fifteen offensive linemen for him up
Speaker 1: there in the Great Northwest m So he's not watching
Speaker 1: the tape on on these guys. He's not going to
Speaker 1: know about him or what they can and cannot do.
Speaker 1: And that's you know, But like for when it comes
Speaker 1: to free agents. Uh, you know, I've had coaches approach
Speaker 1: me about, hey man, we're thinking about signing this guy,
Speaker 1: what do you know about him? Or say you're bringing
Speaker 1: on a coach on a staff like for Russell. I
Speaker 1: don't see Russell go anywhere because he was part of
Speaker 1: Shane Walden joining that staff, all right. They want to
Speaker 1: make sure that, Yeah, our quarterback is going to get along.
Speaker 1: This is what we're thinking, Russell. This is the philosophy
Speaker 1: we're looking to bring here, what we're going to try
Speaker 1: and make sure that relationship is good. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think we all understand that. But when it comes to
Speaker 1: personnel and decisions like that, I mean, the players really
Speaker 1: aren't going to know they're they're not grinding through the
Speaker 1: tape to know any better. And plus it's the financial
Speaker 1: side of it too. It's one thing to say. I
Speaker 1: remember because when I arrived in New England, Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: was asked me about a couple of players. He was
Speaker 1: asking about Big Cat Williams, who they signed, and he
Speaker 1: asked me about Bobby Ingram. You know what I thought
Speaker 1: about because obviously Bobby went out and had some great
Speaker 1: years in Seattle, and you know coaches will ask you
Speaker 1: information on that. Now whether they take that information and
Speaker 1: use it to make a decision, but they just want
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on a player maybe that you've
Speaker 1: played with, and that's about it. Tim, I understand that
Speaker 1: that's that's nor I mean that that's a given. That's
Speaker 1: a given. You know, the personnel to decisions is too
Speaker 1: sensitive for a player to be involved in a lot
Speaker 1: of different directions because there is no secret And when
Speaker 1: you talk about the war room leading up to the
Speaker 1: day of the draft, you're talking about a room that
Speaker 1: it's difficult to get in because they don't want to
Speaker 1: see the conversations that you're having behind closed doors. And
Speaker 1: then you talk about a player wanting to get involved,
Speaker 1: So what are they going to start promoting a player
Speaker 1: that their agent has attachment to, And then you're going
Speaker 1: to start getting involved in a business end that's not
Speaker 1: necessarily unethical, but it's it's not realistic in terms of
Speaker 1: the secret to the secretiveness of guys that Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I want this guy to be around in
Speaker 1: the seventh round, you know, so maybe we can kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, just ignore him until he gets to that
Speaker 1: to that opportunity so for a player that's going to
Speaker 1: be around a shorter period of time, um and being
Speaker 1: involved in personnel decisions, No, I would not have any
Speaker 1: agreement with that. It's the old cliche owner's own coaches
Speaker 1: coach players. Yeah, you know, it really is because and
Speaker 1: I know it seems to be an ugly situation down
Speaker 1: there and in you know, Houston, or if Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: is unhappy, which I don't think he is. I think
Speaker 1: you know, he just said, hey, you know I've been
Speaker 1: getting sacked a lot that they're trying to address that
Speaker 1: right now. So I don't see him going anywhere. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they're under contract. They
Speaker 1: have a no trade clause, both of them. I mean
Speaker 1: that both those teams can just say, all right, fine,
Speaker 1: you don't you don't want to show up, Fine, don't
Speaker 1: don't show up. We'll just find you a million bucks.
Speaker 1: It's forty thousand dollars a day. And I would you know,
Speaker 1: that's the leverage the team has. The players really have
Speaker 1: no leverage. So you know, it's it's kind of where
Speaker 1: it's at Orlando Brown trying to talk his way out
Speaker 1: of Baltimore right now. Okay, this is what we call
Speaker 1: the protest season, right because no football going on. They
Speaker 1: can protest all they want. They're not going anywhere. I
Speaker 1: call the lying season. Maybe it's both, it's both. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He says he's a left tackle and that's what he
Speaker 1: wants to be, so he knows that's a big paid
Speaker 1: We just signed Ronnie Stanley for ninety eight million bucks.
Speaker 1: But we do like how you played left tackle. But
Speaker 1: well we're gonna put you back over at the right,
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta take a break. Jim Miller Our
Speaker 1: guests from Serious x M NFL Radio with Tom Fair.
Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Johnny AC and this is Bears All Access
Speaker 1: on Chica Go Sports Radio six seventy the Score. This
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Speaker 1: Jeff Jonny Act, Tom Fair and Jim Miller our guests
Speaker 1: from Serious sex ANFL Radio, Old and Crews coming up
Speaker 1: in about five minutes. Let's talk super Bowl. First of all,
Speaker 1: I saw these statistics. I'm a thrown at you. I
Speaker 1: love them. They're from there from the fifty five Super Bowls.
Speaker 1: All right, team with the fewest turnovers no brainer, thirty
Speaker 1: eight and five record in Super Bowls, team with the
Speaker 1: most rushing attempts forty six and seven, and the team
Speaker 1: with the most rushing yards forty one to thirteen. Now, again,
Speaker 1: if you're winning and you're sat in the game away,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the more carries in the more yards.
Speaker 1: But I just please, there's a place for a running
Speaker 1: game in the NFL, and there's a place for it
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one and beyond. So I know that
Speaker 1: you both will agree with me on that, right Tommy, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Jim, Yeah, I hope you didn't be in
Speaker 1: agreement because the guys that run the ball successfully, that's
Speaker 1: their game plan going into the game. It's not something
Speaker 1: that's offered to them in the mid middle of the
Speaker 1: first quarter. And you know you've got to you just
Speaker 1: events allow you to do it. This is what you
Speaker 1: come into the game plan. It's it's gonna major, it's
Speaker 1: going to influence the rest of what you try to
Speaker 1: do on offense. But yeah, I mean, a running game
Speaker 1: has been the foundation of a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of success in the NFL, and I think the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl proves it. As for let me just look at
Speaker 1: the teams in the postseason. Out of the out of
Speaker 1: the fourteen teams, I think ten of them are in
Speaker 1: that top fourteen. And just in terms of holl of
Speaker 1: running football, we could go through Baltimore, Rams, Green Bay.
Speaker 1: It goes on and on and on of how well
Speaker 1: they ran the football all season long, and that statistic
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. I mean for Tampa Bay to
Speaker 1: rush for one hundred and forty five yards and I
Speaker 1: thought Leonard Fournette, he was big for them down the
Speaker 1: stretch and what he was able to do, so, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's with the rookie right tackle. Look how well
Speaker 1: Tristan Worst played all year and that's a pretty good
Speaker 1: offensive line that they surrounded Tampa Bay with. And unfortunately
Speaker 1: for Kansas City, they had three significant injuries. Remember Tardif
Speaker 1: opted out, They signed Collecchio, assembly he ends up tearing
Speaker 1: his pack, so they're basically down to their third right
Speaker 1: guard from that standpoint, and they lost both their tackles.
Speaker 1: So I mean, that's definitely duly noted, Jeff. Is what
Speaker 1: I'd say. You gotta run the football, You know one thing, Jim,
Speaker 1: and during the introductions of the Super Bowl ball one
Speaker 1: thing I noticed, and from having the injury, when I
Speaker 1: saw Patrick Mahomes walking from the locker room to the field,
Speaker 1: he kind of appeared to be walking with an uncomfortable step.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just a comfortable gait that you didn't think
Speaker 1: about it. So to me, it was that that had
Speaker 1: that had an effect on him, that how bad his
Speaker 1: foot is. And I know he's already scheduled to get surgery.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I think with the quarterback position
Speaker 1: and how important it is in Kansas City, if you're
Speaker 1: less than one hundred percent and the other team can
Speaker 1: see it, um, I think you try to take advantage
Speaker 1: of it, and you lose some of your advantage as
Speaker 1: the Kansas City chiefs, coaches and play callers. Well, the
Speaker 1: one thing that was stunning to me NFL next Gen stats, Jim,
Speaker 1: four hundred ninety five yards he scrambled in that game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: four hundred ninety I mean it's well, I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean they were tracking him down like rabid dogs. Well,
Speaker 1: it's interesting too, and Tom can can comment on it.
Speaker 1: Kansas City didn't help out any of their tackles. They
Speaker 1: kind of they live in what we call scat protection,
Speaker 1: which is just the five offensive wyman blocking, and they
Speaker 1: didn't they didn't get out of it. They're just like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is who we are, this is what we've done
Speaker 1: all year. And they didn't really give their tackles any help.
Speaker 1: And they just felt like that they were going to
Speaker 1: roll in the big game with what brought them there.
Speaker 1: And Tampa Bay definitely had the players. They got healthy
Speaker 1: right away at the end, right with Vita vad they
Speaker 1: got their top cornerback in Carlton Davis, and it's just
Speaker 1: a mismatch between Shack Barrett and with JPP on the
Speaker 1: other side. They were destroying those tackles, specifically Shack Barrett.
Speaker 1: He had eight sacks alone. They only had They only
Speaker 1: blitzed five times in that whole game. Tampa Bay did.
Speaker 1: Once they realized that that Tampa or Kansas City was
Speaker 1: just going to go scat protection, they said, we don't
Speaker 1: need to blitz. We'll put those guys in coverage, not
Speaker 1: allow them the big play down the field that uh,
Speaker 1: you know, with the speed that they had, they walled
Speaker 1: that stuff off and then they horizontally, I should say
Speaker 1: because they do a lot of the stuff outside. They
Speaker 1: had those guys stay home. They ran a lot of
Speaker 1: two man and just made sure they didn't get beat deep.
Speaker 1: And that was really the smelling sauce that they really
Speaker 1: put Kansas City to bed because he was under dress
Speaker 1: the entire game after that first series. Time to welcome in.
Speaker 1: Uh you know Jim Miller's aislematee on the Bears team
Speaker 1: flights back in the day. I mean literally a lot
Speaker 1: aisle mate Chris Valerio was in there too. Tom and
Speaker 1: I were in a row ahead of Oland and uh
Speaker 1: oh who sat back? Was that? David? Who was who
Speaker 1: was next to you? Olan? Wait? Hold on, Now, this
Speaker 1: is not a podcast, right because these are the old stories.
Speaker 1: Now this is Yeah, I know we're gonna keep it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep Hey whatever Joe Rogan type stuff here,
Speaker 1: whatever happened is not going to be revealed. But you
Speaker 1: know we're just talking personnel. Tucker right, Retuck there there,
Speaker 1: This is the back of the plane, right, I think
Speaker 1: Bobby Slater to a Tampa Bay Buccaneers head trainer. Now,
Speaker 1: I was back there with us, so we had we
Speaker 1: had a good crew back there, good crew, and I
Speaker 1: just you know that's when you did. This is when
Speaker 1: you listen twice as much as you speak. Back in
Speaker 1: the kind of the plane, Old Oland cruits the Bears,
Speaker 1: seven time Pro Bowls center joining us. Good to have
Speaker 1: you alongside. Thanks for taking out some time. We're still
Speaker 1: talking about the Super Bowl. You're here. You heard your
Speaker 1: old quarterback. They're talking about it at the game. But
Speaker 1: the one thing that sticks out with me, and I
Speaker 1: know I was asked about this on Fox the other night.
Speaker 1: You know, would you consider dealing a player like Khalil
Speaker 1: Mac to get the quarterback that you won? And I
Speaker 1: said a flat out no, because if you learn anything
Speaker 1: and you always learn it from Super Bowls, when the
Speaker 1: final two teams are there, or even the teams that
Speaker 1: wind their way through the playoffs, line a scrimmage, baby,
Speaker 1: you gotta have the pass rushers and you gotta have
Speaker 1: an O line. So it'll always be that way. It's
Speaker 1: a beginning end. You never have enough pass rushers, and
Speaker 1: the more you have, the better. So the Raiders. And
Speaker 1: I just saw this today Oland from Pro Football Focus. Again,
Speaker 1: everybody has a different opinion about Pro Football Focus, but
Speaker 1: since dealing Mac thirty second twenty six and twenty fourth
Speaker 1: and pass pressure last three years, So you know the
Speaker 1: value of just even that one man. Yeah, we've got
Speaker 1: to see Khalil mac play here now for three years.
Speaker 1: And that guy, if they're not turning the whole line
Speaker 1: to him and are changing their whole game plan to
Speaker 1: account for him, then he is getting pressure on the
Speaker 1: quarterback and he has men a lot to that Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears defense. But obviously when you say you wouldn't trade
Speaker 1: him for a quarterback, where it's always which quarterback are
Speaker 1: we talking about? Right? But the top quarterbacks Mahomes you
Speaker 1: would imagine watching and Russell Wilsons no matter what being said,
Speaker 1: and Iron Rodgers. These guys are not getting out of
Speaker 1: your buildings unless the general manager wants to be remembered
Speaker 1: for being one of the dumbest general managers ever to
Speaker 1: work in the NFL. So you know, other than that,
Speaker 1: you're not trading Khalil Mack for guys who aren't of
Speaker 1: that level. Obviously of that caliber. And yeah, we saw
Speaker 1: it in the Super Bowl and I heard Jim talking
Speaker 1: about the Chiefs didn't adjust Daryl Williams, their third down back,
Speaker 1: a really bad job of chipping throughout the game. It
Speaker 1: looks like he was more worried about getting out on
Speaker 1: his routes than actually helping Wiley. The right tackle the
Speaker 1: guy had Andrew Wiley, they had to move to right
Speaker 1: tackle because of all of their injuries. They never adjusted
Speaker 1: to it, and I think a lot of it was
Speaker 1: just arrogance, because really, if you think about it, the
Speaker 1: only guy who has more pressures in the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: than Shaq Barrett is Nick Bosa from the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: the year before, and he was just constantly hounding Mahomes
Speaker 1: and they still won the game. So I think they
Speaker 1: just figured eventually they would get away with it. They
Speaker 1: didn't really adjust. It kind of caught up to them.
Speaker 1: You start to wonder about all the things that Andy
Speaker 1: Reid has been going through with his son in that
Speaker 1: accident down there in Kansas City. When you watch that
Speaker 1: game plan, because look, most of us are parents, most
Speaker 1: of us have kids, and you can't tell me that
Speaker 1: does not affect you and affect the energy of the
Speaker 1: football team. You know, it was something that they just
Speaker 1: allowed to let Travis Kelsey catch the ball. You know
Speaker 1: they's not going to get a lot of yards after
Speaker 1: the catch. They rounded them, and you know all those
Speaker 1: exterior plays, they kind of stopped them in their tracks
Speaker 1: the majority of the time. So you got to enjoy
Speaker 1: the way that Tampa Bay defensive backs and linebackers for
Speaker 1: that matter, trying to you know, control the physical part
Speaker 1: of the game. Yeah, for sure. And they were up
Speaker 1: there really early on those early RPOs, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure Jim and Tom you said, Jeff, you saw it.
Speaker 1: They were very aggressive trying to take those RPOs away
Speaker 1: on first and second down, really getting after those wide receivers,
Speaker 1: staying in their face, and like you said, Tom, really
Speaker 1: physical at the linebacker and defensive back positions. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: really impressive. Whitehead playing with what we know was a
Speaker 1: really bad shoulder injury he got from causing that fumble
Speaker 1: up there in the Green Bay game. Winfield came back
Speaker 1: from injury. Top Bows just had a really good plan
Speaker 1: and basically just dared Andy Reid to run the ball
Speaker 1: or we're gonna stay in this too deep safety looking
Speaker 1: Andy Reid never did, so they what they did just
Speaker 1: kept working. Actually, I heard Jim say, scat protection look
Speaker 1: versus that kind of front. I was an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Tom was too. Five on five, somebody is going to lose,
Speaker 1: and even if you have a really good offensive line,
Speaker 1: if the New Orleans Saints are gonna go five on
Speaker 1: five verse the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive line with Jason Pierre,
Speaker 1: Paul Shack, Barrett Ghoston and in Vita veya back man
Speaker 1: many Tom if you, if you, if you go out
Speaker 1: to help the tackle, and I wonder them with Vita
Speaker 1: Vea me and you are probably arguing in the huddle
Speaker 1: about that. I mean to give Andy credit. They came
Speaker 1: out the second half and they tried to run that
Speaker 1: first series, but they only got a field goal and
Speaker 1: then right but they got yards, right, they went away
Speaker 1: from it immediately. Yeah, they got yard on that track play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they could scored a field goal in Tampa right away.
Speaker 1: Had that big drive and I think it was a
Speaker 1: thirty six power play they ran oland because I remember
Speaker 1: seeing Ali Marpette poland to come around in Leonard Fournette
Speaker 1: ran for the touchdown, and at that point you and
Speaker 1: I both know your trade field goals for touchdowns and
Speaker 1: then they were kind of out of the run after that.
Speaker 1: But he didn't start the game really running the football.
Speaker 1: What do you look at, Andy Reef and I think Jim,
Speaker 1: I gotta go watch it closer, and I'm sure you
Speaker 1: are too going to do it, but I think they
Speaker 1: were running that duel and then what everybody's doing now
Speaker 1: is you're running like an outside counter off of that duel.
Speaker 1: And you'll see the coach run that with Quinton Nelson
Speaker 1: a lot, and I think that's where they ran on
Speaker 1: that play. And obviously, like you know, we used to
Speaker 1: run duel back in two thousand and one. That was
Speaker 1: our play and the only way to stop it is
Speaker 1: to load everybody in there. So the Chiefs came, everybody
Speaker 1: came flying downhill and there's a really nice call man
Speaker 1: by the Tampa Bay coaching staff, and it was almost
Speaker 1: a walk in the end, so a market leading away. Hey, Allen, Jim,
Speaker 1: I got that question for all to you guys. Six
Speaker 1: penalties in the first half by the DBS. Do you
Speaker 1: think these guys are watching the playoffs before the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl saying, man, they've been letting the play all playoffs,
Speaker 1: So let's be a little grabby early and just see
Speaker 1: if we can slow him down. Or you think it
Speaker 1: was just bad defensive backplay, go ahead, No, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let the quarterback after I thought. I thought from
Speaker 1: that standpoint, the one I thought were legitimate early like
Speaker 1: rape before half when bashaw Brelan he somewhat did tackle
Speaker 1: Mike Evans and that game a big first down, and
Speaker 1: then they had a second one that was down in
Speaker 1: the goal line. I didn't think that was a penalty.
Speaker 1: There was a seam route to Mike Evans. To me,
Speaker 1: that ball was uncatchable, but it was still it was
Speaker 1: on a first in goal. I think there was thirteen
Speaker 1: sex seconds left and a half. To me, it just
Speaker 1: all it did was created another first in goal situation,
Speaker 1: so it really would have been really second out. I
Speaker 1: didn't think that one was a catchable pass at all,
Speaker 1: but I still think Tampa would have scored. But clearly
Speaker 1: the one on the tipped interception, you know there's a
Speaker 1: holding call on that particular play and it gets takes
Speaker 1: away that turnover. That one was somewhat suspect where you
Speaker 1: could say, hey, that was kind of a momentum changing
Speaker 1: play on that particular play, But they weren't disciplined enough.
Speaker 1: You know, people forget Tampa's got every bit of webs
Speaker 1: that Kansas City does. Granted they may not have the
Speaker 1: team's speed at wide receiver like Kansas City does. But
Speaker 1: between Mike Evans, that's Scottie Miller. You got a Bees
Speaker 1: think about that. Antonio Brown's your fourth receiver off the
Speaker 1: off the bench. I mean, Godwin can play a fellas.
Speaker 1: We gotta take a quick break. Well, can you hang
Speaker 1: with us for a couple of minutes? All right, We're
Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break. This is Bears All Access
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Speaker 1: guests tonight, Jim Miller from Sirius Sex MNFL Radio and
Speaker 1: his old team Olden Cruitz, an expert analyst here on
Speaker 1: the Score as well. Olden, let's talk Bears in the
Speaker 1: defense and staff. We're gonna hear from Sean de Sai
Speaker 1: on Monday. What do you want to hear from him
Speaker 1: in terms of the type of defense he plans on
Speaker 1: running and what aspects of it do you feel need
Speaker 1: to boost. Yeah, and I heard Tom mentioned earlier. You
Speaker 1: want to hear him talk about who his biggest influences,
Speaker 1: which we all imagine is Vic Fangio, because really none
Speaker 1: of us really know much about him, right And if
Speaker 1: you look at his background, you guys do. But I'm
Speaker 1: talking about guys on the outside of building. He's only
Speaker 1: been a position coach for two years. He's coached the
Speaker 1: safety so I don't really know how many guys he
Speaker 1: has in his room every day. And he's never really
Speaker 1: called plays on defense unless I know, unless I miss
Speaker 1: a part of his year where he has. So none
Speaker 1: of us really know what he is except for people
Speaker 1: in that building, and they're really high on him. In
Speaker 1: former players, I hear them raving about him also, so
Speaker 1: a lot of people high on him. But as far
Speaker 1: as what I would expect, I really don't know, to
Speaker 1: be honest, Jeff, I don't know what to expect from
Speaker 1: Sean Desai. I don't know what kind of defense is
Speaker 1: going to run. Where did they have to improve? Well,
Speaker 1: you hope they get back to that two and eighteen
Speaker 1: when they were taking the ball away when the team
Speaker 1: was plus twelve. Because since that year, they haven't been
Speaker 1: very good at it, right, they haven't taken the ball
Speaker 1: away much since that. I think it's only been eighteen
Speaker 1: and nineteen the last two years, and they had around
Speaker 1: thirty six in two and eighteen, and that's a big difference.
Speaker 1: And then you want to hear what happened at the
Speaker 1: end of the year and what he's going to do
Speaker 1: to change that, because I think from the bye week
Speaker 1: on the Bears gave up twenty six points a game
Speaker 1: and really, you know, thirty five and forty one. I
Speaker 1: think it was against the Green Bay Packers, which really
Speaker 1: worries you since that the guys up north obviously they
Speaker 1: hire Mike Petting to maybe get some information on how
Speaker 1: to slow that offense down that the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 1: do have, So, you know, to be a very honest
Speaker 1: and fair answer, I don't know what to expect from
Speaker 1: Sean Desai and the coaches after they have there now
Speaker 1: and what defensive to come out. I would imagine I'm
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of Vic Fangiel's principles. Try to
Speaker 1: get back to twenty eighteen to what they were doing.
Speaker 1: I know Eddie Goldman's coming back. That's really going to
Speaker 1: help the defense. Roquan Smith hopefully takes another step, and
Speaker 1: I want to hear definitely from him when he does
Speaker 1: get to the podium what he thought happened to Eddie
Speaker 1: Jackson the last couple of years and how we're going
Speaker 1: to get him back to being the best safety in
Speaker 1: the game. Paul, And what about a team? You know,
Speaker 1: I mean you look at him and to talk about
Speaker 1: the conversation about Khalil Mack and when you point the
Speaker 1: direction of protection, a lot of time a Keems do
Speaker 1: his inside. So it's kind of through a team to
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack. You know, with Eddie Goldman there, you know
Speaker 1: you think that it's going to make him a better player.
Speaker 1: Does a Kicks have to make a Keem Hicks a
Speaker 1: better player? Yeah? And am Keem Hicks is really the
Speaker 1: engine to this defense right when you watch that film
Speaker 1: on the inside, he gets after people, he's a physical presence.
Speaker 1: He brings the personality to this defense. Hopefully when you
Speaker 1: talk about the Chicago Bears in their pass rush, Hopefully
Speaker 1: next year we're a little farther along in this pandemic,
Speaker 1: we can get the fans back at Soldier Field and
Speaker 1: really get a home field advantage for a guy like
Speaker 1: Quinn to come off the edge. But a Keem Hicks
Speaker 1: dominant player getting a little older obviously, but really is
Speaker 1: the bell call of this defense? Guys that people really
Speaker 1: worry about. Sometimes you wonder when you watch him, is
Speaker 1: he dealing with injuries? We heard about Matt dealing with
Speaker 1: injuries this year. We know that Quinn dealt with a
Speaker 1: back last year. So if the Bears inside of that
Speaker 1: building can get their guys back to healthy and strong
Speaker 1: and feeling good and playing at the level you would
Speaker 1: expect from that front seven, because on paper, that is
Speaker 1: a dominant front seven. That's front seven that you get
Speaker 1: excited about in the same way you get excited about
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who just wanted the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So like you're talking about a Keem Tom and obviously
Speaker 1: we all enjoy watching him play when he gets after people,
Speaker 1: and he seems to be really aggressive out there sometimes
Speaker 1: I don't know if his knees bugging him or what.
Speaker 1: But I think just across that board, I hope this offseason.
Speaker 1: I know the string staff they have a good one there.
Speaker 1: The nutrition staff, whoever is in that building, whoever's in
Speaker 1: those rows, I really hope they're getting on those guys
Speaker 1: about getting healthy, gaining shape, and getting ready for sixteen
Speaker 1: games this year. That way we can get out of
Speaker 1: that front seven what we paid for. Well, I'm with
Speaker 1: you on the defense. I think the consistency and continuity
Speaker 1: is going to stay there. You know, you go from
Speaker 1: Vic to Chuck and now Mike Penton. He was in
Speaker 1: that same Rex Ryan type of defense in Baltimore, So
Speaker 1: I think that'll change stay the same. Have you been
Speaker 1: happy with the lack of running game by the Bears.
Speaker 1: I like the commitment towards the end of the season.
Speaker 1: I mean not a lot of times. David Montgomery has
Speaker 1: had over twenty carries I think eight total as a
Speaker 1: Chicago Bear. But is the offensive line serviceable enough and
Speaker 1: there's doesn't need to be more of a in the
Speaker 1: running game. Look at every team in the playoff fourteen
Speaker 1: of those teams I just said, ten of those teams
Speaker 1: were you know, running the football extremely well. From Baltimore
Speaker 1: to Tampa to pretty much all those teams Green Bay,
Speaker 1: they all run the football extremely well, right, And there
Speaker 1: really hasn't been a commitment to the running game right.
Speaker 1: And we've heard coach Naggy now for a few years
Speaker 1: going into the off season and Ryan Pace last year
Speaker 1: saying that the offensive line was a problem, you know,
Speaker 1: and they fired coach he stand and they brought in
Speaker 1: one Castell, another respective coach. But then they started to
Speaker 1: realize that maybe they have a talent deficit there. And obviously,
Speaker 1: obviously they lose James Daniels early in the year, who
Speaker 1: I thought was their best offensive lineman, really rising and
Speaker 1: coming along as a football player, so that really hurt them.
Speaker 1: Obviously hurt their running game. But you'd like to see
Speaker 1: Montgomery get the ball a little more. You'd like to
Speaker 1: see him get a backup running back. That also puts
Speaker 1: a little fear in the defense because Cordarrell Patterson, we
Speaker 1: all have a ton of respect for him. He makes
Speaker 1: a defense, you know, the defense fears him. But he's
Speaker 1: just special teams guy, not really a second running back.
Speaker 1: And then Ryan Nall, so you can't really put suit
Speaker 1: up Jimmy Graham as you're starting tight end. Have Cordarrell Patterson,
Speaker 1: Ryan All and tell me you're serious about running the football.
Speaker 1: So I'd like to see them run the football more. Obviously,
Speaker 1: this scheme that they try to run from Kansas City,
Speaker 1: you know, besides Mahomes, it seems to be a quarterback killer.
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson just got fired. Wentz is on his way
Speaker 1: out of town in Philadelphia, so I know they tried
Speaker 1: to go a little bit more to this outside zone
Speaker 1: scheme later in the year, which Juan can Steele learned
Speaker 1: from Gary Kubiak down there in Baltimore and Rick Dennison
Speaker 1: the Kyle Shanahan Mike Shanahan outside zone boot scheme, and
Speaker 1: they ran the ball Moore, and there's some success into
Speaker 1: they face a little better defense, and so yes, I'd
Speaker 1: like to see him get a commitment to the run game, Jim,
Speaker 1: but probably, like you, I really don't care how you
Speaker 1: put the ball in the end zone. The Bears problem
Speaker 1: is they don't score a lot of points. And I
Speaker 1: think in the last thirty eight games this offense is
Speaker 1: only average about twenty eight twenty points a game. And guys,
Speaker 1: that is with that four game stretch where they average
Speaker 1: thirty five points a game, So if you take that away,
Speaker 1: they're under like eighteen and nineteen points a game. And
Speaker 1: interestingly enough, I think that coach nag I think he
Speaker 1: brought coach Petting into to ask him what he's doing
Speaker 1: to stop his offense. And I think that's where he's
Speaker 1: coming into. They've only averaged eighteen points a game against
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, kind of like what Sean McVay
Speaker 1: is done down there. Vic Fangiel stopped his offense, so
Speaker 1: he brought in Staley and talked to Stalely about, hey man,
Speaker 1: how do I beat your defense? What concepts should I
Speaker 1: want run? What schemes? So maybe that's also why it's
Speaker 1: a good idea to get petted in that building. All right, boys,
Speaker 1: we gotta take a break, Jim, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week at all. And it's
Speaker 1: a it's a league of connecting the dots, and you
Speaker 1: just connected a bunch of them. Isn't it time those
Speaker 1: skeletons on the plane, let's not. Let's not the megaphone.
Speaker 1: We will never bring that up. Well never what megaphone?
Speaker 1: I didn't see any megaphone? Boys. All right, thanks all,
Speaker 1: and come back sometime, will you all? Incrues Jim Miller,
Speaker 1: let's take a break with Tom there. I'm Jeff Jonia
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Speaker 1: Miller and all Incrues on together, Tommy talking Bears football
Speaker 1: and the Super Bowl. Really could have kept on going
Speaker 1: with that, but a lot to discuss because of the
Speaker 1: off season, and you and I we talked about this
Speaker 1: last week, we talked about it several weeks ago, maybe
Speaker 1: even on the broadcast of our last game in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But the off season program. I've been reading some things
Speaker 1: and as soon as I guess what in sixteen days
Speaker 1: or fifteen days, they're gonna they're gonna go to Exos.
Speaker 1: The athletic training. It's high level training for all all
Speaker 1: sports and all athletes at every level, including professional but Arizona,
Speaker 1: Texas and Florida. Apparently this is the plan. They're going
Speaker 1: to do a combine style event training with more than
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty players going into the draft. So
Speaker 1: Mark Dominic, the former Tampa Bay executive, and Don Gregory,
Speaker 1: who was a Panther's scout and also they're scouting director.
Speaker 1: They're gonna set this up, they're gonna they're gonna run
Speaker 1: it just like a combine and try to get some
Speaker 1: sort of base that they're used to, because the thing
Speaker 1: about the combine is you everything for decades is the same.
Speaker 1: Your environment is the same. Subtle adjustments, but it's the same,
Speaker 1: and that's where you lean. As somebody wrote about it today,
Speaker 1: I think Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated with they're your
Speaker 1: guardrails for scouts and analysts, so that you can compare
Speaker 1: athletes over decks from the same pool of information. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of unfair that they minimalize it
Speaker 1: down to those couple of days because it's about your
Speaker 1: preparation for months. So what that combine does it gives
Speaker 1: you an indication of how much you're working, how hard,
Speaker 1: and how much effort that you're putting into it to
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to be evaluated. And then we've seen
Speaker 1: guys every year that have high expectations that come in
Speaker 1: and disappoint you, whether it's a lack of strength on
Speaker 1: a bench press or it's a slow forty time and
Speaker 1: some guys are they have the ability to overcome that
Speaker 1: because they're just so talented or some of them, the
Speaker 1: guys they fall in the draft and they have to
Speaker 1: reprove themselves. So you know, I listen, it was different
Speaker 1: when I came out of college. We had to go
Speaker 1: do three different combines and do that same event three
Speaker 1: different times during the course of a couple of months.
Speaker 1: So it is different. It has changed. But to me
Speaker 1: as a player, when I got there and I noticed
Speaker 1: that a guy was deficient in his strength or he
Speaker 1: really you know, you could you could almost talk to
Speaker 1: his personality and know that he was less dedicated to
Speaker 1: the game than you. Yeah, it gives you a little
Speaker 1: bit more hands on approach, but it's proved a point
Speaker 1: and how well they're ready to go to the combine.
Speaker 1: And then there's this tug of war about the offseason
Speaker 1: should it be similar to last year? There are football
Speaker 1: people who disagree that spring is unnecessary, and I think
Speaker 1: players are saying it, and because the season was successful,
Speaker 1: But if you really look at it, and this will
Speaker 1: take some time, you gotta go piece by piece. Did
Speaker 1: the young players suffer from it without an offseason? And
Speaker 1: will they suffer from it if they have a second
Speaker 1: season of no offseason, the veterans probably love it because
Speaker 1: those young guys might take some jobs. Those jobs may
Speaker 1: be safer. Who knows. Well, let's look at two opposite
Speaker 1: ends of the spectrum. Because there were such high expectations
Speaker 1: when they drafted Jalens that he was going to have
Speaker 1: to come in and play. But did we know that
Speaker 1: he was going to play like that, perform at a
Speaker 1: first game level and be a starter and you know,
Speaker 1: have good performances? Is because of it? You know, he
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of time to be prepared. But
Speaker 1: now let's look at the quarterback position. If we would
Speaker 1: have had OTAs, if we would have had five games
Speaker 1: or preseason, would the battle of Nick Foles and Mitchell
Speaker 1: Schubisky ben differently decided at the start of the season
Speaker 1: because Mitch had an advantage when they went to training camp.
Speaker 1: He was more familiar with the system, with the terminology
Speaker 1: and I know everything that Nick claimed in terms of
Speaker 1: being familiar with the coaches in the offense and stuff. Still,
Speaker 1: you know, you'll look at guys like that. Jalen Johnson
Speaker 1: didn't need a lot of time, but he didn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of time, Nick had more experience around the
Speaker 1: NFL and the quarterback in the systems, and you know,
Speaker 1: you just weren't a lot of a lot of the
Speaker 1: realistic amount of time that for all these generations of
Speaker 1: players that we talk about, they've always had the sa
Speaker 1: am amount a preseason time to be prepared. All right,
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty when I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask those guys because they faced these players old
Speaker 1: in particular, but Alan Fannicut a guard. So you're bowing
Speaker 1: to that right now. I know you love that Tom
Speaker 1: floor is the great coach of the Raiders, Calvin Johnson,
Speaker 1: John Lynch, Peyton Manning, of course, Drew Pearson finally gets
Speaker 1: in from Dallas, Charles Woodson, that was a no brainer.
Speaker 1: And then a scout a contributor. This is what I
Speaker 1: love because there are some guys in this league that
Speaker 1: have put together a great resume. Bill Nunn of the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers definitely did thirty seconds. What's your thoughts on
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame class at twenty twenty one? Impressive?
Speaker 1: All those guys are super talented, they are great performing
Speaker 1: at a high level. Or even a guy like Calvin Johnson,
Speaker 1: then never had the opportunity to perform at the highest level,
Speaker 1: but he's still considered one of the best players in
Speaker 1: the history of the league. You get more talent around
Speaker 1: surrounded by some of these guys, and maybe their careers
Speaker 1: would have been differently. Now we gotta get Clyde Emrick
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame, strength coach in the history
Speaker 1: the NFL. If there's anybody deserving up being in the NFL,
Speaker 1: it's Clyde Emery. I like it with a charter franchise
Speaker 1: in the league. That makes total sense to me. Tom,
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