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Speaker 1: My next guest is an actor, writer, director, and producer.

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Speaker 1: He's a series regular on ABC's hit drama A Million

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Speaker 1: Little Things, starring is the character Rome Howard. He is

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Speaker 1: back on the show to talk about the first season

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Speaker 1: and the upcoming second season, and I want to share

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Speaker 1: some very important advice that he gave me. He's the

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Speaker 1: first born American with Trinidadian descent. He has lived from Beataw,

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Speaker 1: Texas to Puerto Rico. Please welcome back the money making conversations,

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Speaker 1: Rominy Malcolm. Hey, thank you, Dan. That's a nice interests talk.

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Speaker 1: You the best center. I've a gut right there. Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. Sean, appreciate that. Good. I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: be here. And and I want to know if I could,

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Speaker 1: if I could pigue back on what you were saying about,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you have a plan that you can

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Speaker 1: make it, Am I allowed to do that? Or do me? Now?

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Speaker 1: Just show us about to do your thing. I just

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Speaker 1: want to say something, you know, uh, you know, Look,

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Speaker 1: one of the other things that really inhibits people, I believe,

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Speaker 1: from actually realizing their dreams is simply they have this

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Speaker 1: preconceived notion of what the process should be like. So

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Speaker 1: what that means is they think from what they take

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Speaker 1: things to face value. They they take the success they

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Speaker 1: see your face value, and then so they go into it.

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Speaker 1: And I don't care if you're just selling jewelry, making

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Speaker 1: YouTube videos, or running a fortune five hundred company. The

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Speaker 1: bottom line is is that people are doing a lot

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Speaker 1: of additional work beyond what you're seeing in you know,

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Speaker 1: at face value. So in other words, there's so much

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Speaker 1: extra work that goes on behind the scenes. And I

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Speaker 1: don't don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about paying dudes.

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Speaker 1: Yes there's paying dudes, but there's also simple strategies and

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Speaker 1: techniques that we need mentors and we need non provental

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Speaker 1: care and adults to inform us of because we hadn't

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Speaker 1: walked that path. And it's those little bits of insight

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Speaker 1: that saved us so much time. I wish I had

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Speaker 1: known that when I was younger. I caused to be

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Speaker 1: allowed further the head of my own life. That's all.

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Speaker 1: But isn't that part of the growing process process too,

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Speaker 1: you know? Because I always go back and I always

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Speaker 1: tell people what you learn in your twenties, it's really

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Speaker 1: what the structure of what you're going to be successful

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Speaker 1: in your forties and your fifth because that's when you

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Speaker 1: were fearless. That's when you had the dreams, and if

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Speaker 1: anybody told you a question, you you tended to ignore that.

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Speaker 1: But as you got older, you got into relationships, and

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Speaker 1: you start worried about the position you are in life.

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Speaker 1: You know, that fear of change, that fear of I bet,

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Speaker 1: I bet, I've been a hold back on this, so

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Speaker 1: the whole back and what you say, right, no, but no,

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Speaker 1: But there's some value to that though, because you know

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Speaker 1: something real talk. I have to say that there was

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Speaker 1: definitely a fearlessness, uh you know, in my youth. But

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Speaker 1: also what there was was this uh lack of awareness

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Speaker 1: of self. And because of that lack of awareness of self,

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Speaker 1: I had these unaddressed issues. So by not knowing myself

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Speaker 1: Very much. A lot of people tell me, Yeah, people say, yo, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm you're so underrated. I'm not underrated, really, I'm just scared.

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Speaker 1: So I'm the dude to avoid a lot of the

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Speaker 1: afraid that I would be exposed as not being worthy

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Speaker 1: you're good enough. So I actually took I, I actually

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Speaker 1: a biproduct of just like deeper insecuty that hadn't been addressed.

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Speaker 1: So I think that, you know, we have a fair

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Speaker 1: we've just been convinced of it. And so I think

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Speaker 1: sometimes there's a lot of value in northern Northern American countries.

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Speaker 1: We tend to overlook, uh, the need to resolve those

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Speaker 1: issues as we pursue success. You know, it's not just

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Speaker 1: about will power. There is a resolve. Most of the

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Speaker 1: wealthy people that helped me make my movies, that helped

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Speaker 1: Because on the on the movie Prison Logic, there was

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Speaker 1: there was a crowdfunded movie. Correct, it was cloud fund

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Speaker 1: But what I did was I used the cloud funding

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Speaker 1: campaign to attract investors. So here's the prime example of

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Speaker 1: a cloud funding campaign. Always asked about because statistically, a

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Speaker 1: two hundred to a thousand percent of asking. So that

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Speaker 1: I got a little secure when I saw that calculator.

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Speaker 1: You are comedian. You're all comedians like um so so anyway,

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Speaker 1: and then went to investors, show the infestics, look, this

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Speaker 1: you know, we have so much great things we've talked

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the movie that's coming out in November

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Speaker 1: coming out of the Netflix in November. Correct, man, let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something that I don't know. If you

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Speaker 1: know who Leslie Small is, he's a man. Come on,

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Speaker 1: come on. He did like three Neighborhood Awards. He directed

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Speaker 1: like three Neighborhood Awards for me. I know leslie small. Okay, dude,

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Speaker 1: that that's first of all, ask my brother. This dude

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Speaker 1: to put Texas at Baytown, Texas. Right, I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: learning real value. Great director, great production, cham work. If

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Speaker 1: the Netflix is pretty dope. Absolutely my man Leslie Smallst director.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, he's on the roll. But this

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Speaker 1: next break the ratchet. This show on TV I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about on ABC. We're talking about A Million Little Things.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the stars. He plays the character Rome

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Speaker 1: Howard Romeney Malco cool. He's back. You heard about the

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Speaker 1: ABC renewed for a second season, which means that's a

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Speaker 1: It's a regular check. It's called A Million Little Things.

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Speaker 1: I've seen that I've seen the show, so we can

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Speaker 1: really talk about it. Uh, let's let's get it before

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Speaker 1: him get started about the whole character development in the

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Speaker 1: arc of the series, because it opens with a very

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