1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: Hello, that was terrible. Nice harmonics we got coming for 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: you today. Hi everybody, Hello, welcome back. I hope absolutely. Um, 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: it's it's so exciting. That's why we had to give 4 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: you such a musical intro. This is our fiftie episode 5 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Romance, twenty five weeks of of these crazy stories. Yeah, 6 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: I feel like I've learned a lot. What have you 7 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: learned in this time? That? Um, some people through history 8 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: lie and record theirs as in fact. You know what. Honestly, 9 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: one thing one lesson that I've taken from this is 10 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: that it's similar basically what you just said is that 11 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: history is a manipulative tool, and you can really stick 12 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: it to someone, especially in earlier times, right when there 13 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: was like one person recording everything. Oh really, you looked 14 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: at me, funny. So you know what, I'm going to 15 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: change your entire legacy in this book I'm writing tonight. 16 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: It turns out you're ugly now everyone laughs at your 17 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: stupid face, historically documented, they'll be talking about it on 18 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: a podcast two thousand years from now. And also that 19 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: so much of history was shaped by the mistresses various rulers. True, 20 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: very true, and people are weird people are really, really weird, 21 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: and I think sometimes we forget that because we're very 22 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: like thinking about our own main stream. But people are 23 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: fucking weird. They really are. So thanks for sticking with 24 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: us for fifty episodes. Telling your friends, obviously, your neighbors, 25 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: your uncle's, your aunts. Yeah you know, you know, But 26 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: don't stop there. I don't want to let the song 27 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: limit you. Oh, definitely not. You're bringing to the show. Yeah, 28 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: so invite anyone, your next door group, your Facebook neighborhood. 29 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not on one of those. Tell 30 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: them all, Tell them all. Tell your enemies. Yeah, and 31 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: you're you tell that multi level marketing group from your 32 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: high school friends. Tell them all. So we're excited to 33 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: have you for this episode, but we've it's been an 34 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: exciting week here in Atlanta. Yeah, that has. I don't 35 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: know if you heard, but we kind of won the 36 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: world series that one, you know, the world series of 37 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: people who only play in this country basically get some 38 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: of the Yeah, I get some like Toronto Blue Jay 39 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: is right. I don't know how it works. You don't neither. 40 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: You don't know how we are sports casual supporters. Right, 41 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: we did a Jackie rabbitson episode You know how much 42 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: we know about baseball, but it was exciting because, well, 43 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: we cut the cable cord a while ago, so we 44 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: don't get live sports here. But we were out to 45 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: dinner for Game six and we happened to be watching 46 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: the only part of the game the entire World Series 47 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: that we saw are really the entire baseball season was 48 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: when so Lair hit that home run. And you know, 49 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's the only time we were watching, 50 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: and it was a hell of a home run. Sort 51 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: of You're welcome is what we're saying. You're welcome that 52 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: we went and gotten Mexican food that night. I had 53 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: the game on the You're welcome to everybody. But of 54 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: course Houston, right, sorry Houston. Yeah, Well, we've got a 55 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: sporty story for you today, rooted in competition. Sure, isn't 56 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: the Pirates a baseball team? The Pittsburgh Pirates are a 57 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: baseball team? Wow, look at me the trivia. Yeah, we're 58 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: talking about pirates today. And this is the story of 59 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: the most successful pirate in history, or at least one 60 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: of a woman named chung Yo woman a woman, yes, 61 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: and her first marriage was for power, but her second 62 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: marriage was also for power, but maybe also for love possible. 63 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: Let's find out. I want to find out about some 64 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: Chinese pirates. Let's set sail, Hey the French, come listen. Well, 65 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: Eli and Diana got some stories to tell. There's no matchmaking, 66 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: a romantic tips. It's just about ridiculous relationships, a love. 67 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: It might be any type of person at all, and 68 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: abstract cons that don't a concrete wall. But if there's 69 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: a story. Were the Second Glance Ridiculous Roles A production 70 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. In the seventeen nineties, China and 71 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: Vietnam were at war a right because in seventeen seventy one, 72 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: the Thai Shun brothers had started a peasant uprising against 73 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: the lords of Northern and Southern Vietnam, and they overthrew them. 74 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: And then they divided the country into three equal parts, 75 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: and they each took over one amongst themselves, got three brothers, 76 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: one of them each ruling a different part of Vietnam exactly, 77 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: And so they were kind of like feeling like great, 78 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: everything's coming up Tai Shun. But before they had really 79 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: even established their control fully, one of the overthrown lord's sons, 80 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: win On came back to Vietnam from exile in Thailand 81 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: and rallied his own army to overthrow them back again. Basically, 82 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: he was like, oh no, he like controls the undo. Yeah, 83 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: coming back, taking this back. I want my land back 84 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: right now, and not only mine, but everyone else's while 85 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm at it. And so years of battle ensued. There's 86 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: this whole civil war going on between when On and 87 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: the Tai Shun brothers and the Taishan monarchy started relying 88 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: more and more on Chinese pirates to fight for them. Meanwhile, 89 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: when On had a bunch of allies from Laos, from 90 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: Siam and from Ching China. China was ruled by the 91 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: Ching dynasty at that time known as Ching China. Yeah, 92 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: so the Tai Shun they've got their army of Chinese 93 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: pirates and went on has like everybody else coalition of 94 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: Southeast Asia official governments pretty much. Yeah, exactly. And so 95 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: one of the Chinese pirates that was fighting for Tai 96 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: Shan was named chun Yi, and he was actually from 97 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: a long line of pirates dating back to the Ming dynasty. 98 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: This was a real family business. My father was a 99 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: pirate and his father and father's father's father. We are 100 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: all buccaneers. And so he was fighting as a privateer 101 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: on his cousin, Chun Chee's fleet. So chun Yi is 102 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: a pirate who's fighting on his cousin's fleet. Chung Chi 103 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: owns the fleet of ships, and they're fighting in favor 104 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: of the Tai Shun brothers, yeah, against the Chinese and 105 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: went on. Yeah. So in seventeen, Chun Ye kidnapped a 106 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: fifteen year old boy named Chung Potsi. Now he was 107 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: the son of a tonk and fisherman, and chun Yie 108 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: pressed him into piracy. It's like, you're coming with me, 109 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: welcome aboard. You're a pirate. Now, he didn't have that 110 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: Irish pirate accent because he's from China. Okay, but we're 111 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: not doing that accent. Definitely not very stupid. So this 112 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: was actually a pretty common thing to happen among pirates 113 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: and navies. Actually, if you remember our episode about Robert 114 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: Culifford on John Swan, it wasn't uncommon for the navy 115 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: to basically snatch you up and force you to sail 116 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: and fight with them. Guess what you do? And now, yeah, 117 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: working for me, it doesn't pay well and you won't 118 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: eat well either. Welcome aboard life at sea. I can't wait. So, 119 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: speaking of that episode, here's the thing about Chann Ye 120 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: and Chiung Potsi. Some sources claim that they were actually 121 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: lovers and that chun Ye kidnapped Chung and adopted him 122 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: just because he wasn't allowed to marry him. So he's like, 123 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: so we can't get married, I'm just gonna snatch you up. 124 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: And if I quote kidnap you, now we're together this way, 125 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: it's okay, Like that's better than I'm getting married. Apparently, 126 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: and again, this was another thing that was common amongst 127 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 1: sailors at the time, although speculation station this might have 128 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: been less common in China because there was no superstition 129 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: against having women on ships like there was in the West. 130 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: In the Western pirates and navies, you couldn't have a 131 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: woman aboard the ship. So there was a lot more 132 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: you know, alleged homosexual activity going on on board on 133 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: these ships. Uh. And it also wasn't allowed, but it 134 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: was pirates allowed it, but nabies didn't. Yeah, So it's 135 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: hard to say if that was the source of their 136 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: relationship here or if they were just into each other. 137 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: But Chung POTSI became a pirate, and though he was 138 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: not born into piracy like Chun Ye was, he was 139 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: totally good at it. He and a natural talent. He 140 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: adapted well to his life at sea, and he rose 141 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: quickly in the ranks. That might be because there was 142 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: a lot of room for promotion because Tai Shun and 143 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: their forces had started out really strong, but went On 144 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: was kind of decimating them at this point in in 145 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: the war, and by February eighteen o one, one of 146 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: the bloodiest battles of all had had ensued, and the 147 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: Thai Shun forces were getting a little worried because they 148 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: had not performed well that battle. Around this time, Chinese 149 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: starts to hear some rumors about this real shrewd, savvy 150 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: prostitute in a Cantonese floating brothel named she Yang. Now 151 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: She Yang was twenty six years old. She had a 152 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: very wealthy, politically connected clientele, and some of these fellows 153 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: like to talk after sex. This is what I'm saying 154 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: to these these ladies. Man, come in and they've got 155 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: the power. They yeah, if they got the brain to 156 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: use it, oh yeah yeah, or to recognize that they 157 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: have perhaps a position of powers that seems powerless. I mean, 158 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: Marguerite Aliberty obviously, Matame Pompadour. Here, I'm Sultan here, I'm sultan. 159 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: Totally several concubines. So we have a few more coming up, probably, yeah. 160 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, these guys are talking during pillow talk, you know, 161 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: after they've been satisfied, I guess. And she had become 162 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: pretty notorious for being really good at collecting up these 163 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: scraps of information and little secrets and using them to 164 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: wield power over people and get more influence and probably 165 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: money and sell them and you know, just make ship happen. 166 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: This guy's lying on the bed one night, he's like, oh, 167 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: that was a pretty good time, lady boy. Oh, well, 168 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: time for me to get back to the fleet of ships. 169 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm sailing into a secret bay tomorrow. Well good thing, 170 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: you won't tell anyone about it. You're just a woman 171 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: I have sex with, right, She's like, yeah, just a 172 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: lowly prostitute on a floating brothel. What can you do? 173 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: And then he leaves and she picks up the phone. 174 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: She's like, hey, I got the info for you. He 175 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: got the cash, and he's like, where did this phone 176 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: come from? It was about to say very early. It's Sully. 177 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: I also invented the telephone. Wow, but I could only 178 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: talk to myself. So Chunny liked the sound of this powerful, 179 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: smart lady, and he proposed to her, proposed to marry her. 180 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: This is most likely a business move because again, he's 181 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: probably in a romantic or at least a sexual relationship 182 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: with his adopted son Chung. Right, okay, so he's not like, 183 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: it's not you, I love you so much. She's like, 184 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: I already got somebody, but you seem like a smart 185 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: person to wed. Yes, and you know, a speculation station. Again, 186 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, this war is not going well. 187 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: Chinese might be looking to his future and he's like, 188 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: I need somebody, you know, real smart next to me, 189 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: who can do the things I can't do, is good 190 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: at the things I'm not good at, and was kind 191 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: of like, this bitch has what I'm like it We're okay, yeah, 192 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: that's what I'm thinking, right, I hope you don't mind 193 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: if we get married, but I'm sleeping with my adopted son. 194 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: She's like, I mean that sounds like your own business. 195 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: So yeah, basically he's like, hey, you know I like intrigue. 196 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: You like intrigue. I like boats, You like boats, why 197 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: not let's consolidate some power were together, you know, And 198 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: she Yang is like, oh, hell, yes, this is you know, 199 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: exactly probably what she would want to do with her life. 200 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: But on one condition, she said she wanted a contract 201 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: drawn up like formal paper, signed witnessed contract. Yeah, fully, 202 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: like filed away somewhere that said she got an equal 203 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: fifty control and share of everything they did. Oh yeah, exactly. 204 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm like Chinese was probably like, yes, that is a 205 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: very smart and savvy and shrewd move. This is exactly 206 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: what I was looking for. God damn head, I didn't 207 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: mean to me. Yeah, And so he totally signed that 208 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: pre nup and they both adopted Chung Potsi as there 209 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: as her stepson, his adopted son, and air so he 210 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: would be the next in line, you know. And she 211 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: became known as chun Yi Saw, which means Chinese wife. 212 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: Basically very descriptive name, which is so funny because she's 213 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: known for his name, but she's much more powerful than him. Actually, right, 214 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: a patriarchy is around the world and across time. Beautiful. 215 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: So only a year later now it's eighteen o two, 216 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: win On is totally mowing down the Taishan fleets, and 217 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: he's beheading generals and he's parading prisoners through the streets. 218 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: In June, he was crowned Emperor Xia Long, but right 219 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: after the ceremony he goes to finish the job by 220 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: entering Hanoi, the capital city. You know, you gotta storm 221 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: the capital if you're gonna take over. On the way there, 222 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: he encounters chun Chi, who remember, is the cousin who 223 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: owns the fleet the chun Ye is working for and 224 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: Chu she's got forty pirate junks. A pirate junk is 225 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: like a type of Chinese pirate ship, like a vessel, 226 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: a junk u. I kind of love it, oh ye, 227 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: pirate junk junks. Forty junks coming straight for you. I 228 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: hit him writing the junks right, So went on marges 229 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: into Hannoi, but Chunch and his forty pirate junks are 230 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: waiting there. But it's not enough. Chun Chi gets captured 231 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: and executed. Went on, who's now The emperor takes over 232 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: Hannoi and by July he's unified the entire country of 233 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: Vietnam for the first time in centuries. Pretty good, So 234 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: it's all over for the Taishan faction. Things aren't looking 235 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: good for the Chinese pirates. Chung Yee had actually been 236 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: quick to take over after his cousin Chung Chi had 237 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: been executed. He came in and was like, I'll take 238 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: control of pirates. We're gonna SpongeBob the hell out of 239 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: Vietnam back to China, And in eighteen o three, Chun 240 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: Yi and chen Yi Sao had their first child, a 241 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: son named Chuon Yingshi. Man, it's crazy to think about 242 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: pirrating around doing crazy ship and you're pregnant. What's the same. 243 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, as as we said, as soon as as 244 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: soon as his cousin Chon Chi had died, Chan Yi 245 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: took over the forty pirate junks, so he had a 246 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: pretty respectable fleet when he got back home in the 247 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: South China Sea. I'll take that junk, thank you very much. 248 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: One man's junk is another man's junk. But at the 249 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: time they were actually kind of a lot of competing 250 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: Cantonese pirate fleets, just kind of running around bouncing off 251 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: each other. But fortunately chen Yi Sao was a very 252 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: capable organizer and consolidator, and so together they managed to 253 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: unify all these rival fleets into one giant pirate confederation, 254 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: and each fleet signed an agreement in eighteen o five 255 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: basically to like work together. They would have a big 256 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: shared booty whole, one big shared booty hole. I mean, 257 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: I guess I see why they didn't call it that. 258 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: I found some more treasure. I'll go put it in 259 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: the booty hole. Anyway, they were basically like, we want 260 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: to become too big to fail. Okay, we can do 261 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: that together. Let's all sign this agreement. And there were 262 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: six fleets and they were known by the colors of 263 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: their flags, and there was the Black flag fleet, blue white, yellow, 264 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: and purple, and the largest fleet of all, commanded by 265 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 1: Chung Yi and his wife chungy Sou, was the Red 266 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: flag fleet. And they were one of the most powerful 267 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: pirate fleets in all of China. So they're pirrating around 268 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: for a couple of years like you do. And together 269 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: they have another son, Chung Xiongi in seven. But then 270 00:17:55,119 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: tragedy struck. Chung Ye fell overboard during io. Some people 271 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: think that he was deliberately murdered by Chung Yi Sao, 272 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: his wife, or maybe even by Chung Potsi, the adopted 273 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: son slash maybe love slash maybe lover uh. Some say 274 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: that it was totally an accident. These things happen. It's 275 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: the life on the sea, you know, the dangers of 276 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: a typhoon. A lot of people surely thrown overboard during storms. 277 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: But either way, change was dead and Chung Yi Sao 278 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: had to act fast if she wanted to hang onto 279 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: the reins of control of this massive pirate fleet. Fortunately, 280 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: she was already good at consolidating power, and she had 281 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: helped create this confederation of pirates after all, so she 282 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: was quick to win support of Guo PODi, who was 283 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: the commander of the second largest faction, the Black Flag Fleet. 284 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: Fun fact, Guopo Die was also abducted and pressed into 285 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: piracy at a young age by Chung Ye, and then 286 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: years later Chung Ye gave him a captive girl as 287 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: his bride and then put him in command of his 288 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: own fleet. So Chung Y out here just setting up 289 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: pirates left and right. Kidnap you you're a pirate. Of 290 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: kidnap you, tag you're a pirate. Now, tag you're a pirate. 291 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: And he's just making pirates all day long. Chung Y's 292 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: nephew and Chung Cheese son also supported her, which of 293 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: course helped a lot too. So a lot of family support, 294 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: a lot of other pirates coming in and saying, yes, 295 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: this lady knows what she's doing. I will follow her, 296 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, through the seas. She can have all my junk. 297 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: I will put my junk in her booty hole any day. 298 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: And uh, that's how she became the world's most powerful pirate. 299 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: Oh you know, you know, we scripted some things on 300 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: this show, and some just happened in those mad sickle moments. 301 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: I love them over. Scripting is never the answer, But 302 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: attentive listeners might remember that Chung Potsi was named the 303 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: air of Chinese when they got married, right when they 304 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: adopted him. Yeah, when they got together and adopted him. 305 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: So you know what did he feel about all this 306 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: or trying to take Potually the son who's coming into 307 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: power is not so happy about some adopted mom running around. 308 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: Well not in this case. He was on her side 309 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: right away, and in fact, within weeks of Chinese death, 310 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: they took their relationship from the fleets to the sheets 311 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: and became lovers. So now that my adoptive dad lover 312 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: is dead, wing into bed with adoptive mom why not. 313 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: And actually some speculated they had already been sleeping together 314 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: before Chinese ever died. So speculation station, I have I 315 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: have to ask, because you know, I'm nasty. If Chan 316 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: Yi was doing Chung Potsai and Chen Yiao was also 317 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: doing Chung Potsi, do you think they ever mixed it 318 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: up along got it together, all three of them hanging 319 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: out in one ship. I don't know, supporters a life 320 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: on the sea will do strange things, or do you 321 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: think that it was strictly like strange? Never knew that 322 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: they had a relationship, like they kept it a secret. 323 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: Maybe as well. I don't know who knows, but I will, 324 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: I will. Uh, there's a second train in speculation station 325 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: right now, because I want to ask if Chung Potsi 326 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: and Chung y so we're sleeping together, stands the reason 327 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: that Chung yee death might have not been such an accident. 328 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: It get the old man out of the way, makes 329 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: the murder look more likely for he who knows who 330 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: knows that you know they never went in front of 331 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: a jury about it because they're pirates. Yeah, they made 332 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: their own jury and so yeah, so anyway, Chung probably 333 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: because they were already doing it and had planned this 334 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: out together from the get In my opinion, they kind 335 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: of worked out the situation where Chung pots I became 336 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: the commander of the Red Flag fleet. He was in 337 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: charge of the largest contingent of ships and that was 338 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: his his deal, where Chini Sao took over operations for 339 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: pretty much the entire confederation, so he was like her 340 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: second in command. And a report from eighteen ten to 341 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: the Chinese government said, quote, Chung Potsi obeyed Chinese SU's 342 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: orders and consulted her in all things before acting, so 343 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: she was like really in charge, like this this was 344 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: her show. So somebody comes up and it's like, Chunk Putsi, 345 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: will you lend us three ships? He's like, I have 346 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: to ask my mom first. I'll ask her next time 347 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: we're in bed, whatever the situation over there is. And 348 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: the other pirates are like, yeah, I'm not an ask, 349 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: I'm not you just you just tell me give me 350 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: a huster now tomorrow. Let me know what your convenience. 351 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: But that means that she was in charge of over 352 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: eighteen hundred pirate ships. This was one thousand large vessels 353 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: and eight hundreds smaller ships and junks, and an estimated 354 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: eighty thousand pirates at the height of her power. That's 355 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: insane fleet. For comparison, the infamous Blackbeard who you may 356 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: have heard of, he commanded four ships and three hundred pirates. 357 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't even compare. No, that's huge. This 358 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: makes her one of the most successful pirates in history. 359 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: That's wild. I mean, eighty thousand people, eighteen hundred ships. 360 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: You gotta wonder, right, it begs a question how big 361 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: was her booty hole at this point. It had to 362 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: be pretty freaking big to hold all that. Yeah, I 363 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: mean the entire South China season in there, she's like, 364 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: don't you worry about my booty hole. Baby, got it 365 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: under control. I got it locked down tight, and I 366 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: know you're on the edge of your seat, but we've 367 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: got to take a break. We'll be right back with more. 368 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, everybody. They got noticeably more 369 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: active after Chungi Sao and Chung pots I took over. 370 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: They ambushed two different factions of the Chinese Provincial Fleet, 371 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: basically wiping out half of their forces. This gave them 372 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: access to the Pearl River, which basically meant that they 373 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: could reach a whole bunch of towns and villages and 374 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: just go in and take all their ship because don't 375 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: forget they're pirates, I mean, and I also want to stay. 376 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: This additionally makes me think that they did murder chin 377 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: Ye because they were more active. So it's like a 378 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: couple of years went by after they made this confederation 379 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: and it seems like they didn't do yeah, so maybe 380 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: they were like, let's get rid of this boomer and 381 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: going up active is just a joke. Now, this, of 382 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: course was a big problem for the Chinese government. They 383 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: got all these towns getting ransacked by pirates. Pirates were 384 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: a major instruction to shipping, and most of the Chinese 385 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: navy was basically merchant ships that weren't like equipped or 386 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: trained to fight pirates, which honestly is probably why the 387 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: pirate fleet had such an easy time taken over and 388 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: crushing him so quickly getting access to the river in 389 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: the first place. But the provincial force the Chinese navy 390 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: was not going to back down. In eighteen o nine, 391 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: a hundred ships commanded by Sun chin Mo attacked a 392 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 1: small faction of pirates, probably thinking he could wipe amount easily, 393 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: but then they called on their old buddies. The pirate 394 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: Confederation for backup. So the Red Flag and the White 395 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: Flag fleets showed up and just handily took care of 396 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: Suon Chin Moo's force and set them a running or 397 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: sailing I guess sailing. Sailing takes you away the water 398 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: version of running. Um. But a few days later, the 399 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,239 Speaker 1: ching fleet wiped out the entire White Flag fleet and 400 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: killed the pirate commander, but it did cost them twenty 401 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: five ships that they lost in the process. White fleet 402 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: put up a fight, yeah they did, so that's kind 403 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: of a bummer. They got one of their whole fleets 404 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: wiped out or whatever. But even so, Cheneau is like 405 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: all business. She's like, we still got shipped to do. 406 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: We're about to raid the ship out of everything. And 407 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: basically she like I imagine her sweeping a bunch of 408 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: ship off a desk, opening a big map of the 409 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: Pearl River, and then she was like, listen, I'm taking 410 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: my fleet to this city. We're gonna sack this city. 411 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: Chung Potsi, you take a Red flag fleet, get this 412 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: city taken care of, and all the villages on the way, 413 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: and Quopoda, you take the Black flag fleet, get this province, 414 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: take care of all those villages, raid, raid, raid, fill 415 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: that booty hole. Blew, you're over here, red, you're over here, 416 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: while you're up here. It's a whole game of risk. 417 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: She's got planned out on the map here. Yeah, and 418 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: the Black Flag Fleet spent six weeks working their way 419 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: along the waterways of the Pearl River, raiding towns and 420 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: villages and killed an estimated ten thousand people. Oh that's 421 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: no fun, yish And Chung pots I meanwhile completely destroyed 422 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: an entire town. He killed two thousand inhabitants. This is 423 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: this is turned from fun piracy to real piracy, and 424 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't like it all right, Like, I was all 425 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: about this girl boss until she started murdering people. And 426 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: then Chungi Sao took command of five hundred ships. They 427 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: rated a bunch more, they captured people, they were taking ship, 428 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: they're burning shipped down. You know, pirate stuff, pirates, bloody pirates, 429 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: bloody pirates. Okay, but here's an interesting thing. One of 430 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: the ways the Pirate Confederation was unified. They all came 431 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: together to get on the same page, which doesn't sound 432 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: like pirates to me, but they put together a code 433 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: of conduct and often Chun Yi Sao is credited with 434 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: writing this code, although firsthand testimonies written by Chinese people 435 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: from the time say it was actually Chiung Poetsi who 436 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: came up with it. Mostly, this misattribution comes from a 437 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: white guy who wrote a book about pirates and then 438 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: either sort of mistranslated, or maybe he was just more 439 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: interested in selling books than getting the fact straight and 440 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: he thought like, oh, lady pirate, that'll sell. Well, that's 441 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: a good story. Regardless whoever wrote it, the was this one. 442 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: If any pirate goes privately on shore, he shall be taken, 443 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: his ears mutilated, and he will be paraded around the 444 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: fleet and executed. So don't go to shore by yourself, 445 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: no little personal visits to bring a buddy. Yeah, well 446 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: I think you had to get permission and probably yeah. 447 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: It's like I need to know where the funk you are, 448 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: and if you don't. If I don't know where you are, 449 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to find out where you are and then 450 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: put you in a grave. Sol I'll always know where 451 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: you are after it screw up your ears. Number two, 452 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: not the least thing shall be taken privately from the 453 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: stolen and plundered goods. All shall be registered. The pirate 454 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: receives for himself. Out of ten parts, only two eight 455 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: parts belonged to the storehouse called the General Fund. And 456 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: those who steal anything out of this general fund shall 457 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: be executed. So hands off my booty hole. Ha ha. 458 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: I was going to say, I guess General Fund is 459 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: a little more professional, but you know who wants to 460 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: be professional not I clearly. So Number three, women captured 461 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: from villages shall not be harmed or harassed. All women 462 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: captives shall be registered at their place of origin, recorded, 463 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: and be given separate quarters. Those pirates who rape or 464 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: commit adultery with the women captives shall be executed. This 465 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: is unique. What a nice moral code of conduct there, 466 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: Like kill ten thousand people all day, but if you 467 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: rape one lady, you're dead. You're dead, like banks, I 468 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: love it, progressive question mark. I mean for pirates. Yes, 469 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: that is what's a human life. But you know the 470 00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: consent is still key here guys were pirates. Now, some 471 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: sources include additions to this code, such as, for example, 472 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: if the woman was a willing participant insects with a pirate, 473 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 1: she would also be put to death. So if they're like, 474 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: if you sleep with a lady consensually, you're both dead, 475 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: it's so weird, Like, why would you punish her for 476 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: being like this pirate's hot. But if the pirate wanted 477 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: to marry a captive woman, he could do that and 478 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,239 Speaker 1: she would become a full member of the crew. So 479 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: you can marry these ladies and then you can sleep 480 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: with them. But none of none of this, none of 481 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: this out of wedlock sex. I really wonder what that's about. 482 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, I'm not sure that's true, because 483 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just seems like such a weird 484 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: thing to make a distinction. They're like, you can't go 485 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: around just you know, swing you're a dick all around, 486 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: all over town, in every port you want to you 487 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: want to have sex, you do it the old fashioned way. 488 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: You get married. We would commit you know, you have 489 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: a little over the close action and you and marry. 490 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: They were you know, it was all about commitment, right, 491 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: That's what the whole treaty was. I guess, so that's true. 492 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: They're like, that might actually you know what that might be. 493 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: It is there just like if you just have sex 494 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: with her, she could leave an escape and run off. 495 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: If you marry her, she's part of the crew, and 496 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: we can trust her more anything like that. Maybe it 497 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: was that, yeah, and encouraging encouraging the crew to grow too. 498 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: I mean that's like you said, you've got more people. Uh, Instead, 499 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 1: if you want to sleep with her, that's incentivizing us 500 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: to grow our fleet. Very true, So maybe that's it. 501 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: That was just like if you want to sleep with here, 502 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: you can, but you better marry. They get married more 503 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: like they have kids and they can raise them. In piracy, 504 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, they're creating their own country or basically for real. Now, 505 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: villages that submitted the pirates and paid tribute were spared 506 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: and and protected, and any pirate who raided a protected 507 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: village would be hunted down and put to death. But 508 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: it's like a mafia thing, yeah, a little bit, the 509 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: go to big. But villages that resisted had their homes 510 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: burned and all of their men killed, and then the 511 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: village leader would be nailed to the dock by his 512 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: feet and beaten to death. Really just the again, the 513 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: moral code of conduct is all over the place here. 514 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: It's just like that's good, that's bad, that's good, that's bad. 515 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: Then if they captured a ship, the sailors aboard could 516 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: either live and join the confederation, or of course option 517 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 1: B was always execution, but you got an option. Okay, 518 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: it's more than some would do. I hate a two 519 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: party system. In October of eighteen o nine, Suon shin 520 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 1: Mo had gotten the provincial army back to full strength, 521 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: so he kind of tried again, you know, he tried 522 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: to step up to the red flag fleet and take 523 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: him down once and for all. But Chung pots I 524 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: crushed him yet again like a fly. Yeah. Really just embarrassing. 525 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: The same guy keeps beating him over and over. He's 526 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: really holding a grudge. Imaginely he's got like a portrait 527 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: of Chung pots side and Sung and he's throwing darts 528 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: at him every day or something. One day, I'll get 529 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: you and sees him again, he pulls his pants down again. 530 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: Damn pirates. So yea. At this point, the Chinese imperial 531 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: and provincial governments are starting to get a little desperate, 532 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: all right. They're not doing well against this giant pirate confederation. 533 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: So they're like, and guess will finally get over our 534 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: dislike of quote unquote foreign barbarians. And they started talking 535 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: to the Portuguese because you know, a lot of countries 536 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: had a lot of interests in the South China Sea 537 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: and trade supply roots and everything. So the Portuguese a 538 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: out there, East India companies out there, you know. They 539 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: so they kind of looking around there, like, I see 540 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: other allies that we just haven't talked to because they're 541 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: not Chinese, so let's maybe get over ourselves and go 542 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: talk to them. And the Portuguese were like, oh, yes, please, 543 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: we are so on board for this, because Chinese sous 544 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 1: pirates had earlier captured a Portuguese governor's ship and totally 545 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 1: ransacked and took all their stuff, so they're a little 546 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: embarrassed too, and they're like, yes, please, we want payback 547 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: so badly. They saw their opportunity in November when Chin 548 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: Ye Sow suddenly left the Pearl River with just a 549 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: few ships and she harbored at Tongue Chung Bay to 550 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: make repairs, and so they're like, oh, this is a 551 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: perfect time to take down pirate Queen. We could destabilize 552 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: her whole confederation because she's in charge of it. She's 553 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: all alone out there with just a couple of ships. 554 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: So the Portuguese sent like a few ships kind of 555 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: just to harass her. Freaker out and she immediately signaled 556 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: for help from chunk Hotsi. He immediately heads out to 557 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: join her. He arrives the next day, but he didn't 558 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: see any Portuguese ships anywhere. Everything looked fine, so he's like, 559 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: I guess i'll weigh anchor and do some repairs myself 560 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: while we're in this peaceful bay. And that's when six 561 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: big gass Portuguese ships showed up and blockaded Chunyee Sou 562 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: and Chung Potsi within the bay, so they couldn't get anywhere, 563 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 1: and of course they tried to counter attack and break free, 564 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: but the wind was not on their side, so they 565 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: could not really do anything. They were just kind of 566 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: sitting there. And then a couple of weeks later, nine 567 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: three more ships show up from the provincial fleet, and 568 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: guess who's at the helm. Their old friend sum chin Mo. 569 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: So they got the Portuguese sitting there being like he 570 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: we got you, bitch, And then Suon Chin Mo shows 571 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: up and he's like, he I got you, bitch. Finally 572 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: I got suspenders on this time, you're not following my 573 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: pants down. But then a couple of days later, the 574 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: pirates captured one of Suon's ships and killed all seventy 575 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: four men on board suon HInM is getting pissed at 576 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: this point. They were basically just in like a standoff, 577 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: and Sunshin Moo is getting impatient now. So he converted 578 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: forty three of his ships into fire ships, which sounds 579 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: it's exactly what you think. He filled them with gunpowder 580 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: and other combustibles and they set them on fire on 581 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: purpose and shoved him off towards enemy lines. The idea 582 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: is that the ships will either set the enemy ships 583 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: on fire or at least make them panic and kind 584 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: of scatter break formation a little, and then they'd be 585 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: easier to pick off one by one. But the pirates 586 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: like they saw these slow moving, flaming ships coming towards 587 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: them and they just like moved out of the way 588 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: or or managed to divert them towards the shore, and 589 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: then they extinguished the fires, broke up the ships and 590 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: used it for irewood. Yeah, like, thanks for the firewoods, Chin, 591 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of what stunent Chinmo was using 592 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: him for at that point, So why not. He's shaking 593 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: his fist, He's like, damn you, and then his pants 594 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: falled out. Chin, where is this? Uh? This Marx Brothers stooges, 595 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: three stooges maybe, But just then the winds changed and 596 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: two of Sun Chin Moo's fire ships actually got blown 597 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: back to the provincial Chinese fleet, and two of his 598 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: own ships caught fire. Oh no, he played congratulationship played 599 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: just this is not going well for this guy. This 600 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: is the most like comedically bumbling ship commander in history. 601 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: Then the next day, the pirates took full advantage of 602 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: that wind that's at their backs now and they blow through, 603 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 1: broke out of the blockade, and escaped into the South 604 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: China Sea. The provincial fleet lost three ships besides the 605 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: ones that they burned as fireships, plus at least seventy 606 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: four men. Meanwhile, the pirates they only lost forty men 607 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: and zero ships. So bye bye Suon Chin Mo. Smell later. 608 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: We're done here. This guy can't catch a break, not 609 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: at all. Like he is like, you know what, maybe 610 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: I should go back home to the country and take 611 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: up painting. Gonna be a hog farmer, hog farmer, something else. 612 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: He gets back, the pigs are running around, his pants 613 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: fall down, bloody piglets. But all was not well among 614 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: the Pirate confederation. So even though they had had this 615 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: big victory. It was a little bit hollow because Guopo Di, 616 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: the leader of the Black Flag Fleet, had been summoned 617 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: to come back up the Red flag Fleet and help 618 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: them against the Portuguese and everything. We got a contract. 619 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: He had refused to show up. Later that year, he 620 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: openly battled Chung Potsi at the mouth of the Pearl River, 621 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,439 Speaker 1: and it turned out he had been negotiating with Bi Ling, 622 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: who was the Viceroy of lie Anguan, So basically he 623 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: was like the governor in town way. I thought by 624 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: Ling was the actress from different Cranked movies, and I 625 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: know she was on Lost, she was in the Jack's 626 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,479 Speaker 1: Tattoo episode. She was the girl he met. As it look, 627 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: she deserves better. Yeah, everyone deserved and I deserve better 628 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: than having to watch it. Well, this is different Biling, Okay, 629 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: different Byling, different by Ling. Yes, this was the viceroy. Yeah, 630 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: and he was kind of the new vice roy and 631 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: he was pretty good at dealing with pirates. But before 632 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: we get into that, let's take a quick break, all right, 633 00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. In January, Guopo Die officially 634 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: surrendered the entire Black Flag Fleet to Bi Ling. He 635 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: was rewarded with the rank of sub lieutenant. So now 636 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: the government had part of chun Esau and Chung Post 637 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: size confederation on its side. Plus it had already wiped 638 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: out the entire White flag fleet earlier. So this, you know, 639 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: their confederation is kind of weakening at this point. Yeah, 640 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: they're losing colors left and right, right. And not only that, 641 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: but the British had decided to join the Fray. They 642 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: sent ships to help patrol the Pearl River. Bi Ling 643 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: had also instituted embargoes that were kind of sucking up 644 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: the pirates supply chains as well and just making things 645 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 1: hard for him. And so all of Bi Ling's efforts 646 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: were really starting to pay off, and big names and 647 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: piracy were being captured and executed, and so they were 648 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: kind of getting a little nervous. And then finally the 649 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: kind of the final straw sort of was that the 650 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: imperial government offered amnesty to any pirates who laid down 651 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: their swords voluntarily. So it was a wig out, you know, 652 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,919 Speaker 1: without dying, and so Chinese Sao decided, you know, maybe 653 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: it's time to negotiate, okay, okay, So Chung pots I 654 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: was sent in first to handle negotiations, and those took 655 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: place on Chunk Post flagship with a Portuguese mediator. They 656 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: decided that they would only submit if they could retain 657 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: control of five thousand pirates and eighty ships so that 658 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: they could enter the salt trade as well as participate 659 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: in anti pirate campaigns. They're like, you bring us in 660 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: the trade salt and we'll fight pirates for you, as 661 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: long as we can still have all our ship Yeah, 662 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: we need all those ships. We can have a life 663 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: after this. You know, we don't want to start from nothing. Yeah, 664 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: we're not gonna go be hog farmers. That's for others. 665 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: But Bai Ling was like, hell no, I'm not making 666 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: that deal with you. And then some British ships sailed 667 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: past the pirate fleet and that's booked him. That made 668 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: Chunk pots I think that they were laying some kind 669 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: of trap. So he just retreated, you gotta go, negotiations 670 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 1: are over, we'll talk later. So Chungni Sao was like, 671 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, if you want something done right, you gotta 672 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: do it yourself. So she gathered up a posse of 673 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: seventeen women and children, and she walked unarmed into Bai 674 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: Lang's office I imagine it was a bit of a 675 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: strut more than a walk. Definitely. I don't know that 676 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: this woman knew how to walk without a stagger, do 677 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. She's like, I'm freaking the 678 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: most successful pirate in history. I'm about to walk up 679 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: into your spot with all the ladies at my back, 680 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: and we're going to tell you how it's going to be. 681 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: And just in case, we're surrounded by children, so don't 682 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: shoot at us. You'll feel like shit if you do anything. 683 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: So she steps in there and she starts negotiating with 684 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,720 Speaker 1: them herself. This time he totally yielded to her demands. 685 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: He's like, whatever you say, lady, You're really good at this. 686 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 1: And by the end of the talks, she had gained 687 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: clemency for all except four hundred of her seventeen thousand, 688 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: three D eighteen pirates, and only a D six ended 689 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: up being executed. She and Cheung Po would also be 690 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: allowed to keep all of their ill gotten gains. Amazing. 691 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: That is the that is incredible. They were both raised 692 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: to Chinese nobility, and Chung Po has made a lieutenant 693 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: in the Chinese navy and allowed to keep thirty ships 694 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,919 Speaker 1: for his own fleet. I mean, that's that's the best 695 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: deal since Lucy and DESI signed over there getting the 696 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: rights to rerun. See what a sweet deal. Plus only 697 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: a hundred pirates got executed? Do you think that thousand? 698 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: Do you think that they executed more pirates than probably? 699 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: But negotiations almost stalled when Biling demanded that all the 700 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: vanquished pirates kneel before him, and Homage like he just 701 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: wanted to be like, you're fully subjugated now and you 702 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 1: have to show it ye to see it, and Chinese 703 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: was like, um, did you not notice my ego walk 704 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: in before me? Because I'm not doing that that we 705 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: we don't do that here. And bi Ling was like, okay, well, okay, 706 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: not all seventeen thousand plus pirates have to kneel, but 707 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: you and chunk pots I have to. I need somebody 708 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: to be humiliated here, and it's not gonna be me 709 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: for once. So nobody's happy with this idea, right, They're like, 710 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to leal Bilings like you have to. Chinese. 711 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: I was like, I have this great deal that's about 712 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: to break down because nobody wants to get on their knees. 713 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: So she came up with a solution. Traditionally, at the 714 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: end of a marriage ceremony, the couple would kneel in 715 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,879 Speaker 1: thanks to the efficient. So Chinese I was like, how 716 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: about you dissolve the adoption that made Chunk pots s 717 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: im my adopted son and instead marry us, and then 718 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 1: we'll kneel in thanks, you'll get your homage, we'll get 719 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 1: what we want. Everybody wins, and he said okay, and 720 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: they did that ship and so Chung Potsi and Chenisa 721 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: were officially married in April of eighteen ten. They surrendered 722 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,240 Speaker 1: to Biling with the a fourmentioned sevent thousand, three hundred 723 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: and eighteen pirates, as well as two hundred and twenty 724 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: six ships, one thousand, three hundred and fifteen cannons, and 725 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: two thousand, seven hundred and ninety eight assorted weapons. So 726 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: can you can imagine that they were very happy to 727 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: get their hands on all that. And chany Sao also 728 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: surrendered her own private fleet of twenty four ships and 729 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: one thousand, four hundred thirty three pirates that were just 730 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: her personal commands. But this wedding thing, like, we don't 731 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: want to kneel to you, but I'll tell you what 732 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,240 Speaker 1: we'll do. The marriage thing. We get what we want, 733 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: and you can have some people who were in the 734 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: room who can go around and say, oh no, yeah, 735 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: they kneeled to him. We saw it, So what happened. 736 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: I'd take a lot of detector test on that we 737 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 1: watched them officially kneel, and they're like, yes, we did 738 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,879 Speaker 1: technically kneel before him, and violens like rubbing tiger bomb 739 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: into his temples, like whatever gets you the funk out 740 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: of here and off my plate. Oh man, So now 741 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 1: these notorious pirates are just working for the man, and 742 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: they had to help defeat pirates that they had previously 743 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: worked with, so awkward little office reunion there. Chun Po 744 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,720 Speaker 1: distinguished himself by continuing to be a badass and defeating 745 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: the Blue Flag fleet, and in eighteen thirteen Chun Yi 746 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: Sao gave birth to their child, Chung Yu Lin. Not 747 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: much is known about these years. Probably they were living 748 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,479 Speaker 1: pretty well on there everything they had in their booty hole, 749 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: handling their business fighting pirates. But then in eighteen two, 750 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: Chung pots I was killed while serving as a colonel, 751 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: and he was only thirty six years old at the time. 752 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: Still he did a lot, and he did a lot more. 753 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm thirty six right now, almost thirty seven, and I 754 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,959 Speaker 1: ain't done a fraction. You never had to kneel before 755 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: the governor. I never sailed up a river and killed 756 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 1: ten thousand people. You know, you can't really measure yourself 757 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 1: against historical figures like they had, you know, different windows, 758 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: different opportunities, a little more exciting lives. I guess Chung 759 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: returned to her hometown of Guangdong with her child. Records 760 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: don't mention her other two sons that she had with 761 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 1: Chang Yi that we mentioned earlier. UM imagining that both 762 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: of them were just grown at this point and they're 763 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: kind of off like doing their own thing. Possibly also 764 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: pirates are working for the Chinese Chinese Navy or something 765 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 1: like that. UM. But Chung Yu Lin was only nine, 766 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 1: so he was still with his mom and they went 767 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 1: to Guangdong. But Chinese saw, we've got to know her 768 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: a little bit at this point, and she's not one 769 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: to sit quietly and dwindle into poverty or so thing. 770 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: So instead she opened an infamous gambling house in Gwengal 771 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:10,280 Speaker 1: So she was like this dope like proprietor of this casino. 772 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: Basically and she operated it for twenty years and watched 773 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: her son grow up and give her grandchildren, probably just 774 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: as shrewd and savvy as ever with her customers, you know, 775 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: fully like I know exactly who's broke right now and 776 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: pretending to have a fortune, and who does have a 777 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: fortune is pretend to be broke, you know, like she's 778 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: she's got all the info. Um, so she did probably 779 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 1: just fine until she passed away peacefully at the age 780 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: of sixty nine. Really for a death age, look like 781 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: I know you hear the number. It's nice. What a story, Yeah, 782 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: so that adventry of the Yeah, she she married a pirate, 783 00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:01,240 Speaker 1: a notorious pirate, then maybe killed him, then started sleeping 784 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: with and and ruling with his adopted son, and then 785 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: married him and then ran Cassino, took over the pirate fleet, 786 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 1: and then ran a Cassino. What a life? Pretty cool? 787 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: What what a couple of romances? You know? Um? Well, 788 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: I love I love these crazy pirate stories. It's it's 789 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: it's so tough because you do find yourself like rooting 790 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: for them, I know, and then you're like, oh no, 791 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 1: they were they were horrible people. Yeah, murdered without regard, 792 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, I guess it's tough because especially if you 793 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,879 Speaker 1: know anything about the government they're fighting against, like you're 794 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 1: both murderous assholes. Like I guess I like the rebels 795 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 1: over the establishment. But it's not always Yeah, we murdered 796 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,839 Speaker 1: ten thousand people, but you subjugated millions and made them 797 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: live in poverty. Maybe you know. I'm not I don't 798 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: know Chinese history. I'm just saying that's the kind of 799 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: thing you're up against. Sometimes where you like which is 800 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 1: you know, you can measure it in deaths, and that's 801 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: certainly a way to look at it and say a 802 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 1: number of deaths is worse on this side, therefore they 803 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: are the bad guys. But then maybe if you're looking 804 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 1: at quality of life for those people you haven't killed, 805 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: and you're saying, well, yours is pretty miserable, from a 806 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: lot more people, look, well, that's not what we're here for. 807 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: We are here to judge and decide the good guys 808 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: and bad guys are. All I can say is they 809 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,959 Speaker 1: all sounded pretty bad to me. They were all bad, 810 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: But it is fun to kind of see how they outsmarted, 811 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,919 Speaker 1: you know, the provincial navy and stuff, and all their 812 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 1: little close calls and stuff's pretty cool, right right, well 813 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: fun story. 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