WEBVTT - Selects: Geodesic Domes: The Wave of the Future That Wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, Chuck here in twenty twenty three, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hop us all in the wayback machine and take

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<v Speaker 1>us back to December twenty eighteen to listen to our

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<v Speaker 1>episode on geodesic domes, because this ties into the live

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<v Speaker 1>show that we did last year all about the biosphere

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<v Speaker 1>to project. The geodesic dome figured in very prominently in

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<v Speaker 1>that project. We talk all about Buckminster Fuller in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>who also figured into that live podcast. And check it

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<v Speaker 1>out now. If you're into architecture or just cool things,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to Geodesic Domes colon the Wave of the Future that.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm British Josh, there's

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<v Speaker 3>American Chuck, and there's neutral Swisserland Jerry, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>now we're saying Swisserland, Switzerland just decided because it's close

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<v Speaker 3>to the end of the year and I'm about to

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<v Speaker 3>die of exhaustion.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Friendly Fire Movie podcast, Ben Harrison, you know Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, Nazzis.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Nazis. That's like kind of like a throwback.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like the greatest generation.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I'm saying yeah, And I know he does it

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<v Speaker 1>as an affectation, sure, but now I got it from him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he got it from God elsewhere, his great grandpa

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<v Speaker 1>maybe nazzis.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a pretty great.

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<v Speaker 1>Way to see because there's a lot of occasion to

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<v Speaker 1>say the word Nazi.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Hell you mentioned this, uh and why did you say

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<v Speaker 4>you were British?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I chuck say geodesic and you.

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<v Speaker 4>Say geodesic and we just looked it.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, which I mean, that's like the first time in.

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<v Speaker 1>Years the lady said geodesic and I was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right, or in America geodesic and I said, we're bout.

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<v Speaker 1>But then she didn't say though it was British, it

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<v Speaker 1>could be like whatever South African.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I guess, like, well africanor's not English.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>We're so far off course already. Jerry's just got Ramen

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<v Speaker 3>coming through her nose. She thought that was so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for the laugh, Jerry. Well, we are talking about

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<v Speaker 3>geodesic desk. Maybe we should just say that every time

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<v Speaker 3>say them both.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure people would love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say geodesic because that's what I've always said.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, great, I'm gonna say geodesic.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine. We're talking about domes, geodesic domes. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you have ever seen a weird contraption of a circular house,

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<v Speaker 3>a ball house, you might call it a sphere house,

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<v Speaker 3>you've seen a geodesic dome. If you've ever been to Epcot,

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<v Speaker 3>sure you was a kid, you've seen a geodesic dome.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all over the place.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like these as like people's houses in a

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood or wherever.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't either, But I don't. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna yuck anybody's yung.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know what I mean when reading and researching

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<v Speaker 1>and like, they're cool and there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>great advantages. Right then that will go over, But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't care for them right Aesthetically.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't either. And actually, if you if you read

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<v Speaker 3>a quote from Buckminster Fuller, the guy who actually didn't

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<v Speaker 3>invent geodesic domes, we'll get into all that anyway. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the reasons they never took off is because

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<v Speaker 3>they're weird looking.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they just are, and and well I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to say that.

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<v Speaker 3>I really tell me later.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Yeah, I just don't care for him. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I'm a craftsman, California craftsman bungalow type guy,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about the opposite of a geodesic dome.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty angular, for sure. Yeah, And the geodesic dome

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<v Speaker 3>is angular. Everybody put your laptops away, geometry nerds, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's not rectangular, and a craftsman is definitely rectangular. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you can even make a case the roof is not

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<v Speaker 3>a triangle. It's a rectangle on its side. I just

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<v Speaker 3>made that case. How's it going?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I also, and although I probably will never live in one,

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<v Speaker 1>I do love a modern, like a mid century modern.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just it's not really like ultimately where I

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<v Speaker 1>would want to live for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, so I don't want to feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like in Finland in the winter or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not I'm talking mid century American actually built for

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<v Speaker 3>a family in like the mid fifties, early sixties. I

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<v Speaker 3>love it that has all little cool details and built

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<v Speaker 3>ins in a wall that doesn't even really need to

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<v Speaker 3>be there. You can see right through it because it's

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<v Speaker 3>like wood spindles and stuff. That's what I like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 3>Not ultra modern. Mid century modern yeah okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Mid center. Yeah that's what we call it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you still you don't think you could live in

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<v Speaker 3>one of those. I me, craftsman guy.

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<v Speaker 4>We'd have to get all new stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if we started over, like I if our god

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<v Speaker 1>forbid of our house burned down and we lost everything,

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<v Speaker 1>I could start over like that. But like the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that we have doesn't fit. Like you know understood, Grandma's

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<v Speaker 1>antique bar doesn't really go in that setting.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen that bar, and that thing is classic.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>You could put it anywhere. Grandma was a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a boozehound. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they didn't use as a bar. They had like

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<v Speaker 1>humble figurines and stuff. Wow, And I saw it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first sawt I was like, oh god, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really want that, and like they're giving it to us,

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<v Speaker 1>And then we turned it to a bar and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, it's amazing what thirty liquor bottles will do.

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<v Speaker 3>I can really dress up a Yeah, humble figurine cabinet.

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<v Speaker 3>So clearly we're talking again about geodesic domes. And there

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<v Speaker 3>was a period in time check where you could go

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<v Speaker 3>into some neighborhoods around the country and you could find

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<v Speaker 3>well to do hippie types, environmental types, back to earthers

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<v Speaker 3>living in the geodesic domes. And it's not like they

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<v Speaker 3>were living in a tent. It was their house. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>had plumbing and heating and electricity and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just that it was a dome.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There was one near where I grew up actually, and

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<v Speaker 1>we would pass it going to elementary school and it

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<v Speaker 1>was always just sort of like, yeah, there's those weirdos

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<v Speaker 1>that built the weird house.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it interesting though, Like that had some impact on

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<v Speaker 3>who you are today. Yeah, how minute or howse small,

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<v Speaker 3>but seeing that every day or every weekday, that had

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<v Speaker 3>to have some impact on you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And there's was also one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>It was also partially underground even so that was an

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<v Speaker 1>exposed dome, but then that was sort of built into

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<v Speaker 1>a hill, and so they were full on.

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<v Speaker 3>They had a lot of hippie cred.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were going toward it, and looking back, they

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<v Speaker 1>were probably super cool people.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably they were wearing birkenstocks way before anybody else was

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<v Speaker 3>wearing birkenstocks. So let's talk a little bit about the

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<v Speaker 3>first geodesic dome, little geodesic history.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you have to go way back, way way back

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<v Speaker 3>to nineteen six. And not only do we have to

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<v Speaker 3>go back, we have to go to Germany, Jena, Germany.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know where that is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't either, but there is a very famous optics

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<v Speaker 3>company called Seiss, I do know that. Sure, and Seiss

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to build a planetarium on top of one of

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<v Speaker 3>their factories, their factory at Jena, Germany, and they said,

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<v Speaker 3>please build this a planetarium. Walter Bauersfield, where if you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know if he was German or not, just listen

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<v Speaker 3>to his name, Feld felt even more German. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>he said, sure, let me think about this and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>see what I can come up with. And he came

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<v Speaker 3>up with what's what's widely pointed to as the world's

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<v Speaker 3>first geodesic dome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it was a good It was a good

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<v Speaker 1>idea for this project, in particular because they needed it

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<v Speaker 1>to be light, because it had to go on top

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<v Speaker 1>of a roof they needed to hold a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously because it was a planetarium that that interior

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<v Speaker 1>roundness was kind of key. Would be weird to have

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<v Speaker 1>a square planetarium, it would, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially if you're like I didn't know Venus could take

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<v Speaker 3>a corner like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know he could do that, right, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he did, and it was it really worked well.

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<v Speaker 1>It did house a lot of people. I mean not

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<v Speaker 1>how's but you know, it could hold a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>It can withstand storms, and this is these are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the factors that make them not only popular but

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<v Speaker 1>like a good idea. Depending on where you are. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like, if you're in Antarctica, they have them there

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<v Speaker 1>and that it's perfect for that kind of weather.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was a period in time which we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>in a second, where geodesic don't were like the house

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<v Speaker 3>of the future. It was a very very good idea

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<v Speaker 3>that never took off because everybody said, no, we think

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<v Speaker 3>those are kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't feel comfortable with that pretty much.

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<v Speaker 3>So Bowersfeld's planetarium actually kicked off a planetarium craze. It

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<v Speaker 3>was apparently the first planetarium on Earth, which I would

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<v Speaker 3>make the case you can just say the first planetarium

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<v Speaker 3>in the universe, then probably so. But because there were

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<v Speaker 3>people who started to build planetariums as a result of this,

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<v Speaker 3>judiesic domes kind of became a thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Until a guy named Richard Buckminster Fuller of Carbondale, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 4>Very big deal, came along.

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<v Speaker 3>And actually patented the geodesic dome that they really became

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<v Speaker 3>that house of the future thing that I was talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he was an engineer and a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a visionary thinker, one of the great Americans. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we could do a show on him altogether.

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<v Speaker 4>I think agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>But his whole jam was like, well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>he saw the inherent like good points to these and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into all those, but first and foremost, you

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<v Speaker 1>can you can have a huge volume of space with

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<v Speaker 1>very little materials, very lightweight materials, and it'd still be

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<v Speaker 1>super strong, right, which is awesome. So because of this,

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<v Speaker 1>he thought like he had a higher goal in mine,

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<v Speaker 1>which was like the housing in the future. Like they

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<v Speaker 1>don't cost that much money, they can hold you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people safely, and like this is how we should think

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<v Speaker 1>about housing.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You could you could build it off site at a

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<v Speaker 3>factory and deliver it by helicopter.

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<v Speaker 4>It was that light kind of put it together but

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<v Speaker 4>like a kid yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And like you were saying, it required because it could

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<v Speaker 3>withstand more weight, it required less building materials, which meant

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<v Speaker 3>it was lower cost. And supposedly you could put these

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<v Speaker 3>things like a good kit together in a day if

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<v Speaker 3>you were really cruising along at a good clip.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, so you had some high grade sixty speed give.

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<v Speaker 3>It all your Yeah, man, you got me with that one.

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<v Speaker 3>So so this just became plainly obvious that this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the house of the future. There's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the other things about it is there is no

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<v Speaker 3>other buildings structure that has a larger volume of space

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<v Speaker 3>with the least amount of surface area.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And he got this idea through looking at nature. He

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<v Speaker 1>very famously looked at things like crystals and seed pods

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that and thought, like, you know nature,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people do this in design. They

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<v Speaker 1>look to nature because nature has sort of proven to

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<v Speaker 1>get it right usually over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like if you look at an eggshell, you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>this thing shouldn't withstand anything, and yet it does, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a very curious thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But it sure looks like it could slip out of

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<v Speaker 4>a chicken's butt with.

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<v Speaker 3>Ease, right, which is kind of what it does. Like

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<v Speaker 3>what if it was square, it slips out of the cloaca.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true. So Bucky Fuller, as he's known, he apparently

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he wasn't aware of Bowersfeld's design

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<v Speaker 3>or something. Did you get that impression?

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't tell if this was nefarious. He seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>a good guy, so I don't think he like stole

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<v Speaker 1>this idea, but he was able to secure a patent.

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<v Speaker 3>He did. And there's a really great Time article if

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<v Speaker 3>you can find it. It's called Dimaxian American. Dimaxim was

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<v Speaker 3>a word that was associated with him. He just made

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<v Speaker 3>up words a lot, but it tells it. It's from

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty four. It says that he was trying to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out a geometry of energy, and he was using

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<v Speaker 3>spheres as a model of energy. No idea, but he

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<v Speaker 3>was putting spheres together. And his idea was that when

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<v Speaker 3>you put spheres together, they would just make a larger

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<v Speaker 3>and larger sphere. But that's not what happened. He took

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<v Speaker 3>a central sphere and put other spheres around it and

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<v Speaker 3>pushed it together. And what he found was that it

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<v Speaker 3>started to make squares and triangles rather than a larger sphere.

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<v Speaker 3>And he figured out that what he had just come

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<v Speaker 3>up with was actually a very smart structure. That you

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<v Speaker 3>could take those squares and divide those into triangles. You

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<v Speaker 3>could take the triangles and divide the triangles into even

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<v Speaker 3>smaller triangles. And if you kind of curve the edges

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<v Speaker 3>of the triangles inward towards some imaginary center inside the sphere,

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<v Speaker 3>you actually create a sphere. And technically it's a polyhedron.

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<v Speaker 3>And most geodesic domes are acostahedrons, which, if you play

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<v Speaker 3>Dungeons and Dragons, is just a twenty sided die.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But the more you cut the sides into smaller and

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<v Speaker 3>smaller triangles, the more the closer to an actual perfect

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<v Speaker 3>sphere you get. And that's a geodesic sphere. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you cut it in half, or cut a portion of it, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and just use one half of it, that's a geodesic dome.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, which is what you see like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not fully round because it has to be flat

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<v Speaker 1>and sit on something right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually, the Spaceship Earth geodesic dome God is a

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<v Speaker 3>full sphere, but that is pretty rare.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought it was interesting too that they said

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<v Speaker 1>that if you were just designing something on paper, you

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<v Speaker 1>could just design bigger and bigger and it would just

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<v Speaker 1>get stronger and stronger. But in reality that's really not

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<v Speaker 1>the case, like when when rubber meets the road, they're

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<v Speaker 1>really there's really only so big you can kind of get.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I had no idea about this, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm roughly familiar with geo dusic domes. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>any details. But one thing that I was surprised to

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<v Speaker 3>find is that the triangles are not all the same size. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they have to be adjusted to make this shape, to

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<v Speaker 3>make this circle or the sphere. So if you're putting

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<v Speaker 3>together one of these things, as we'll see, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to be like, oh, this strut goes here, not here,

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<v Speaker 3>And I actually put it here up on the top,

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<v Speaker 3>and now I have to go take the whole thing

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<v Speaker 3>apart again. Yeah, the less complex, the better impracticality. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you can really mess with it to make it virtually

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<v Speaker 3>a perfect sphere out of triangles.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you mentioned a minute ago that and I

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<v Speaker 1>think people that pay attention were probably like, oh, Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>is so funny or what did he just say?

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<v Speaker 4>Did Buck Minister Fuller make up words? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>He did, because he made up another word when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to these domes, uh, insegrity.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is not a good word, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Not He mixed two words together, intentional and integrity.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's the relationship between the tension and compression,

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<v Speaker 1>and that really kind of describes how these things fit

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<v Speaker 1>together and why they end up being super strong, even

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<v Speaker 1>though when you look at it, you're like, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>could blow that thing over.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So let's let's take your break and then we'll

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<v Speaker 3>get into like the actual dynamics going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, and geometry?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes promise, yes, all right, I promised. It's time to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to geometry.

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<v Speaker 4>How'd you do in geometry?

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<v Speaker 3>I failed the first time ast of the second time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually really glad that I failed it because when

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<v Speaker 3>I was forced to take it again by the man.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is high school, right, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I it clicked. And I've never understood any field of

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<v Speaker 3>math like I understood geometry. I don't quite remember it now,

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<v Speaker 3>but like I understood geometry like I was Pythagoras is

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<v Speaker 3>like brother.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of I wasn't quite at that level, but

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like because I'm I have long sort of

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<v Speaker 1>poo pooed the maths. Yeah, but you've that right, well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean just for my pea brain like understanding it.

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<v Speaker 1>I understood geometry more than all the other maths, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did okay in it for an English nerd.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>It is completely different than anything else. I feel like in.

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<v Speaker 3>That geometry does seem like its own thing for very

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<v Speaker 3>much at time, Like, yeah, there's numbers and sigma makes

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<v Speaker 3>an appearance and stuff like that, but it definitely seems

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<v Speaker 3>to be It's different than algebra. I'll tell you that. Buddy.

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<v Speaker 4>Shout out to Miss karn Ridana High School.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I wish I could remember my geometry teacher that

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<v Speaker 3>when it clicked.

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<v Speaker 1>With she was great. She was one of those teachers

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<v Speaker 1>that's like was seventy years old. From the time that

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<v Speaker 1>she was twenty eight till the time she was seventy,

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<v Speaker 1>she was.

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<v Speaker 3>Great and then she turned back into twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah she uh. I remember she had this polka dot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny the things that you remember. She had this

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<v Speaker 1>polka dot shirt where all the polka dots were collected

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom, and she said that it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be all over, but she hung it up to dry.

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<v Speaker 4>That was her big joke, great joke.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, welcome to my class. It's the only joke

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<v Speaker 3>of the year. Let's get busy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I bet you there's one person out there who

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<v Speaker 4>had Miss Karn and knows that shirt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I hope it's a great joke, Miss Carn. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're talking geometry, right, Yeah. Do you remember our

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<v Speaker 3>bridges episode? Yeah, remember we talked about bridge trusses, the

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<v Speaker 3>bridges that are made up of triangular shapes, and we said, like,

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<v Speaker 3>those things are extraordinarily wrong because they're triangles.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, man, triangles, same thing here, can't beat them.

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<v Speaker 3>A geodesic dome or sphere is a sphere made up

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<v Speaker 3>of triangles. And if you actually take the triangular shape

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<v Speaker 3>and build one in reality, it is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>strongest shapes you can create because wherever you press on it,

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<v Speaker 3>it transfers that pressure that force to the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>the shape. So it distributes that kind of a weight

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<v Speaker 3>or pressure or force or whatever you want to lay

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<v Speaker 3>on on it. It distributes it evenly, and if you

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<v Speaker 3>put another triangle together with one triangle, it sends it

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<v Speaker 3>to the other triangle too, And so the more triangles

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<v Speaker 3>you add, the more a force is distributed throughout it.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why that's why it's so strong. Like what

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<v Speaker 3>you were saying, like you look at it and you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I could blow that over. You might be able to

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<v Speaker 3>push it over and make it roll away if it's

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<v Speaker 3>a sphere, but you you probably could not break it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And when you look at like, if you're inside

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<v Speaker 1>one of these, it's usually covered with like wood or

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<v Speaker 1>drywall or something, so it's not as evident, but on

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<v Speaker 1>the outside you generally can still see this frame of

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<v Speaker 1>triangles all fitting together beautifully to make something super super strong.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And apparently the strongest version of a geodesic dome

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<v Speaker 3>or sphere is one that's actually made not just out

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<v Speaker 3>of triangles, but out of pyramids. If you look at

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<v Speaker 3>if you look at the Epcot Spaceship Earth Geodesic Sphere,

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually pyramids. All the triangles are actually Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>is that's it. That's the money geodesic dome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that one, since we're on that is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>in that one of the downfalls and we'll go over

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<v Speaker 1>more later, but one of the downfalls of geodesic domes

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<v Speaker 1>is sometimes rain doesn't treat them well. Yeah, but the

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<v Speaker 1>one at Epcot was just like, we're not even going

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<v Speaker 1>to pretend that we want to repel the rain. They

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<v Speaker 1>have little grooves that actually collect the rain and that

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<v Speaker 1>send it to one of those little corny lagoons.

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<v Speaker 3>I love those, I know, I love everything about Epcot.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't been since I was in seventh grade.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, did they update it or is it still

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<v Speaker 1>very much like the World of Tomorrow today?

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<v Speaker 3>You know they've updated it. I mean the whole thing

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<v Speaker 3>is still like that. Yeah, but there's like newer stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>Like there's a really cool ride, an immersive ride called Soaring,

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<v Speaker 3>where like you get lifted up and you're in front

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<v Speaker 3>of this huge, giant curved movie screen and you're like

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<v Speaker 3>soaring through this like the world, like a world tour.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really neat, And did they move your little thing

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<v Speaker 4>around so you feel like you're.

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<v Speaker 3>You definitely feel like you're soaring through there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's like the when they debuted that Back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Future ride years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it like that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You sit in the Dolorean. It's on hydraulics and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like moving all around.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's a movie screen in front of you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you're and you're going through.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's amazing how accurate they can sync that up

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<v Speaker 1>to where you really feel like, like I remember that

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<v Speaker 1>was at one point where the car was on the

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<v Speaker 1>edge of a cliff and it was sort of teetering

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<v Speaker 1>and it got really quiet, and then it teetered over

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<v Speaker 1>and then the car just stopped moving and he felt

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<v Speaker 1>like you were falling.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, just because it stopped moving.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you like turned around and looked backwards, you're

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone's freaking out and you're just sitting in a

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<v Speaker 1>car doing nothing.

0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:25.960
<v Speaker 3>But everybody's going Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>It was so great. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>So we were saying, like this this thing pops up

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<v Speaker 3>all over nature. Yeah, the geodesic dome did this. Time

0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:39.800
<v Speaker 3>Magazine put article put it really beautifully that it was

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<v Speaker 3>like Buckminster Fuller had discovered a signature of God, whoa

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<v Speaker 3>just made scare quotes because around godred.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Since it is such like an efficient structure that can

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<v Speaker 3>support a lot of weight, you do see it in

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<v Speaker 3>things like eggs cornea the testicle, which I'm like, sure, really,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess so I couldn't find that anywhere else, and

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely typed testicle geodesic dome into Google and it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really come back with anything. But this nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 3>four Time article says it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's so well, the dome period is a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>strong structure. The Romans were building really big, strong domes

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<v Speaker 1>a long long time ago, but they don't stay strong

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<v Speaker 1>for long. That's sort of one of the problems with

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<v Speaker 1>a dome, just a regular dome, is that you need

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of super heavy supporting materials and walls to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it up, and over time they wear out. But

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<v Speaker 1>what Fuller did was took that sort of same principle

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<v Speaker 1>and applied this geometry to it and these triangles that

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<v Speaker 1>the Romans didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Think of, and the rest is history. I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. What he found was that when you put these

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<v Speaker 3>fears together, you created what he called a vector equilibrium,

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<v Speaker 3>the outward force of the thing that's trying to collapse.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like if you if you could press down

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<v Speaker 3>on the roof of the house, it would collapse outward

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:08.639
<v Speaker 3>to the sides. Yes, same thing wants to happen to

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 3>geodesic dome. But in a geodesic dome, that pressure outward

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 3>from the force of gravity is actually equal to the

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:25.800
<v Speaker 3>force that's being distributed around it, the circumferential force, and

0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 3>since they're equal measures, they cancel each other out. Yeah,

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:34.679
<v Speaker 3>so it's just like the thing is gravity free.

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you see, you definitely see why he was like,

0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>this is the house of the future because they were cheap,

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 1>they were strong, there were lightweight, and you know, they

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 1>distribute like heat just blows around them because around they're

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:51.680
<v Speaker 1>really efficient to heat and cool.

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 4>There are a lot of really great advantages to them. Yeah.

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.880
<v Speaker 3>And so when he I can't remember when he made

0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 3>his first one, I think it was at a World's fair.

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:03.680
<v Speaker 4>Was that the Montreal was that the first one?

0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 3>No, Montreal was sixty seven. This one would have been

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.440
<v Speaker 3>in Moscow fifty four.

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 4>Well, that's when he got his patent.

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess this would have been before the right

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:19.200
<v Speaker 3>around the same time, but in fifty nine. Yeah, I

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 3>guess the first one must have been Ford, the Ford plant.

0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the Ford Motor Company wanted covering.

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 1>And he said, well, I think this is the trick

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and he built it, he was like, I can, and

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>this is what Ford wants to hear or any company.

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 1>He was like, it'll be better and cheaper, and I'll

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 1>get it done faster than any of these other schmucks.

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 3>And so bear in mind that when Ford called them

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:48.160
<v Speaker 3>from Dearborn, Michigan, that they no one had ever come

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 3>up with this before. They thought, since they wanted to

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 3>enclose their courtyard, the central courtyard and just rotunda that

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 3>they'd built, that it was going to have to be

0:24:56.359 --> 0:25:00.639
<v Speaker 3>a traditional dome with buttresses and supports and like heavy

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 3>walls and all that. The problem was because the coreover

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 3>was so far across I think it was more than

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 3>thirty meters ninety feet across. Anything that they built would

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 3>probably collapse the walls of this very sturdy rotunda building.

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 3>So they had a problem. And when they called Buckminster Fuller,

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how who got in touch with who.

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 3>It was pretty brazen for him to say what you said.

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.439
<v Speaker 3>He said that he can get this done below cost

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.639
<v Speaker 3>in time, it's going to be super light. And he

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:35.880
<v Speaker 3>proved the world wrong, his doubters wrong, at least when

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 3>he built the first geodesic dome over it and it

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:41.919
<v Speaker 3>was pretty awesome. Also, we didn't mention he was a freshman,

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 3>a freshman college dropout, so he's self taught and he

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:51.640
<v Speaker 3>just came along and showed the world of engineering basically

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 3>a brand new type of structure, an incredibly elegantly efficient

0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 3>type of structure. He just showed the world it could

0:25:59.240 --> 0:25:59.719
<v Speaker 3>be done.

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 4>People are just born with like a certain kind of brain.

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 3>That's why he deserves his own episode first.

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So the Ford Dome was great for a while

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>until nineteen sixty two when it was leaking and they said, hey,

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 1>this thing's leaking, we need to do some repair work.

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 1>So they were doing that, and they were waterproofing and

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:23.360
<v Speaker 1>weatherproofing the panels, and they were using a waterproof see

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 1>through transparent waterproof sealer. But to make it easier to spray,

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 1>they heated it up, which makes sense. But unfortunately those

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 1>vapors ignited from a propane heater. This thing caught on fire.

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:40.399
<v Speaker 1>And I get the idea that it was like the

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>whole thing was done in like an hour.

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because they sealed a lot of it with the waterproofing,

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 3>the highly flammable waterproofing stuff. So when a little bit

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 3>caught those vapors caught the whole dome. Yea caught fire

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 3>and it was made of like aluminium in plastic, so

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 3>it just went up like a match. Yeah, and they

0:26:57.000 --> 0:27:01.679
<v Speaker 3>were decorating for the Christmas Fantasy Exhibit low in the courtyard.

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 3>All that stuff caught on fire. Man, it burned the

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:06.160
<v Speaker 3>whole rotunda down.

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 4>Imagine building.

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing more flammable than Christmas decorations in the early noies.

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 4>Not a chance. Yeah, it was really sad.

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Everyone got out of there, which is good, but by

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>the time the fire department got there, it.

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 4>Was too late.

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 3>It was toast.

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 4>So again he foot flames Like I can't imagine what

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:22.159
<v Speaker 4>that scene looked like.

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 3>And it burned the whole building down. Oh yeah, Like

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 3>this was actually a tourist attraction. And do you imagine

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 3>going to Dearborn, Michigan.

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 4>To see the fod Dome.

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's what people did. I think it had seen

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 3>like eighteen million visitors in like it's twenty or thirty

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 3>years of operation and this, this waterproofing fixed burned the

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 3>whole thing down at Christmas time. So this I love

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.479
<v Speaker 3>how this article kind of brushes over it says no

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 3>matter buck mister Fuller's geodesic dome had shown that it

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 3>could be done.

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it bears a little more digging in that for.

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:00.040
<v Speaker 3>Sure, but it is true like he had shown the

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 3>world there's this thing, and we should start making them

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 3>because they are efficient, cheap, affordable and highly transportable. And

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 3>apparently next the next people that call was the military

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 3>because they wanted to start using them as like anarctic

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 3>bases or to cover radar dishes, that kind of thing.

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he very famously too in nineteen sixty seven. At no, was.

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 1>This the World's Fair versus a different thing? No, they

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 1>just didn't call it World's Fair, right. The Universal Exposition

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:32.400
<v Speaker 1>in Montreal in sixty seven very famously had a two

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred foot tall dome, and he was he was really

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to push the limits of what you could do,

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Like he dreamed of enclosing part of Manhattan in a dome. Yeah,

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and saying we could give you clean air and climate control.

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Then it'll pay for itself over time because you won't

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 1>have to use snowplows and all these other things that

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>cost money.

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 3>It seems ghastly, almost like a burnsyan type of idea.

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Well it would, I mean definitely be a certain class

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>of people that lived in that thing.

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I doubt if he'd be like, we'll do

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 4>it over all of you know. Queen's right.

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah it was lower. It was twenty second to

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 3>sixty second. I think from river to river in Manhattan.

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 4>Wow, it was.

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 3>It was going to be huge. And he did say

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 3>it could pay for itself just from snow removal, not

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 3>having to do snow removal. But imagine not having precipitation ever.

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 3>It's just it's it's wrong. There's something wrong with that.

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 3>But it really captures the can do engineering spirit of

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 3>mid century America for sure.

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean you can do a cool experiment with like

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 1>a biosphere type of thing. You don't want Manhattan covered

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>by a dome, n you know all the smells maybe

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Topeka or something like that. And that's one of the

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>problems is all the smells. Apparently did they just fill

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>up that dome. There's nothing to stop it.

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.479
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, the sewer gas accumulating at the top and

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 3>eventually exploding. Yeah, no good the Ghostbusters run around shooting

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 3>off proton packs inside that thing.

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>No good, Man's in a while. Since a gb ref,

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>should we take a break all right, we'll be right.

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 4>Back, all right.

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>So the sixties and seventies come along. He's been doing

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>a thing in the fifties, and this is when the

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 1>counterculture and the anti mainstream sort of vibe was hitting,

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and so it was sort of prime. It was sort

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>of primed for these things to come into fashion. And

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 1>they did just for regular old houses. Yeah, they didn't

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>sweep the nation, but you know.

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 3>There were enough people looking for ways to very blatantly

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 3>thumb their nose that the established look.

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 4>At my round house basically.

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and again like it really does. It does provide

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 3>a lot of benefits that other ones don't, right, So,

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 3>like because it's a it's a sphere and it's basically

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 3>one big room.

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well yes, but you can build rooms inside of it.

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 3>You can't sure. But the heat in the the air

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 3>distribution is really efficient, so it's very cheap to heat

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 3>and cool. I think that the average number that people

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 3>reported was about thirty percent savings in energy costs.

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 4>That sounds totally made.

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Up, it does, but I saw as high as fifty.

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 3>And it seems like the world said, no, we'll go

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 3>with thirty. Sure, we'll go at the lower And so

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 3>you've got heating and cooling efficiencies, like you were saying,

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 3>because it's round, it's not trying to stop wind like

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 3>cool wind, hot wind when it runs into your house.

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 3>If it's a rectangular house craftsman, mid century modern, who

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 3>cares it runs into it and it's going to transfer

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 3>heat or cold into your house?

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in my case, right through my windows.

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 3>And okay, yeah, it's a great, great example. The thing

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 3>is is you don't want that heat or that cool

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 3>in there usually, so you're gonna have to spend a

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 3>lot of money to artificially pump it out right. Yeah,

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 3>through ac with a geodesic dome, the wind kind of

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 3>just moves around it. It's super aerodynamic, so it's not

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 3>just running into this flat surface and trying to go through.

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 3>It's just like, excuse me, I'll just go around.

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's why they're great in Antarctica. They can

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>withstand whatever kind of weather they throw. They Antarctica. They

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 1>and I have seen some of these at the beach. Again,

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>they're not like the coolest looking beach house, but you

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 1>see them, you know, you'll see like quaint old beach

0:32:56.400 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>house cape cod geodesic dome. Yeah, and then like mcmhanson,

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>and I imagine they do very well at the beach.

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because after a hurricane, if a hurricane is bad enough,

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 3>you see empty lot, empty lot, geodesic dome, empty lot,

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 3>And apparently that's it's anecdotal, but that's the been reported

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 3>that geodesic domes can make it through substantial hurricanes when

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 3>the rest of the houses around it did not.

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it makes sense.

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Some of the disadvantages is like we're joking about the smell,

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's really true smell and sound. If you've just

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>got a big globe that you're inside, are really going

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 1>to move around. There's not a ton of privacy. Even

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>though you can build out sort of like living in

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>a loft. You know, you can build out rooms, but

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 1>if your rooms don't have a ceiling, although I guess

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>you could do that.

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Too, you could, but then you're like, well, you know.

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 4>Like why am I even in a right exactly? Light

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 4>as well, that's a big one.

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, like the little light on your router

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 3>that's like really bright at night. Imagine that just being

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 3>dist did throughout your entire house. Yeah, no, good, No,

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 3>that's not a good one. Plus, I mean, if you

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 3>look at any piece of furniture that's ever been created

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 3>in the history of humanity. It's all meant for rectangular structures.

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, unless it's some sort of custom piece for a

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.360
<v Speaker 1>geodesic dome, which is very expensive. Yeah, you have to

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 1>get all this stuff made yourself. And the same goes

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 1>true for like the construction world is set up for

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>square right, So fixtures and plumbing and pipes and all

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that stuff has to be sort of and contractors get

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:32.759
<v Speaker 1>scared away from.

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Me saying, oh, yeah, they won't come near it.

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, unless you're just a specialist.

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Sure, and you're probably like the highest paid contractor in

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 3>the world, yes, who works like once a year. Yes,

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 3>but those same disadvantages are also advantages, right, Like you

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 3>have a lot more floor.

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 4>Space, yeah, but sometimes it's wasted.

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>It can be like if you've got a big long couch,

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 1>you've got a bunch of space behind it that's just

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>sitting there, a little a little semicircle behind you.

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 3>That's why a lot of and I think this is

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 3>the reason why I'm not super hip on gidsigtomes is

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:10.320
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the stuff is just kind of out

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 3>in the center of the room, right, right, And it

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 3>looks adrift or unanchored. That's a good thing about a

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 3>wall or a corner or something like that. It provides

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 3>a visual anchor to your stuff.

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 4>No one can sneak up on you.

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 3>No, it's maybe that's why I don't like it. I'm like,

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 3>what's what's behind me?

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:27.720
<v Speaker 4>Do you like your back against the wall in a restaurant?

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't care about that.

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, do you Yeah?

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 3>Really you're afraid you're gonna eat?

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>What?

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 3>Are you a gangster or something?

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 4>No? I don't think I'm gonna get whacked.

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just, uh, I just feel exposed. And Emily is

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>very sweet. She's usually like, go ahead and take the seat,

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 1>but lately she's been like, no, that's mine.

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, wow, what'd you do?

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:47.320
<v Speaker 4>Nothing?

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Man, it's just the time we're living in she's doing it.

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 3>So do you sit there and like turn around every

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 3>time somebody comes in.

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 4>The waiter comes in and I punch him, turn around

0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 4>and punch him. Don't touch my stuff? Uh.

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Rain, We talked about rain. It can be problematic. Yeah,

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>And it says in here that flat roofs are the best.

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 1>What they mean are flat roofs at an angle right

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>because a truly flat roof, it's not good. Frank Lloyd

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Wright did a bunch of those, and they were his

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>houses were could be very problematic. He had the very

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.360
<v Speaker 1>famous exchange. I can't remember the person, but it was

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 1>some very very wealthy, sort of noteworthy person. Frank Loyd

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Wright built him a house and he called and complained

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:34.240
<v Speaker 1>and said, the water is now dripping onto my desk,

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>And supposedly Frank Loyd Wright said move the desk.

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 3>And that sounds like frankly right. Yeah, for sure.

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that's a true story, but I love.

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 3>You it's true. Yeah, yeah, So with with the with

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 3>the shingle roof, even with the flat roof, like a

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 3>flat roof is not moving water, but it's probably not

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 3>coming down. There's not as many places for it to

0:36:55.400 --> 0:37:01.280
<v Speaker 3>come down. With a geodesic dome. Every place where your struts,

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 3>the sides of the triangle come together at an angle

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 3>at the nodes, there is a point where water can

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 3>get in, and actually you can get in along where

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 3>one triangle goes into another. There's a lot of places

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:18.440
<v Speaker 3>for water to penetrate the geodesic dome. It's a water

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.320
<v Speaker 3>nightmare from what I can tell.

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 4>Well, let's put together from a lot of little panels.

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so let's just really briefly say that. So one

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 3>of the things, one of the reasons why people were

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 3>crazy for geodesic domes is you could put them together.

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Like we said in.

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 4>A day, Yeah, you can get a color coded kit.

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>You still can, and there are companies out there that

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>will send them to you, and you can get your friends,

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 1>get some good sixty speed.

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 4>In a case of beer or two, and build your

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 4>house in.

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.359
<v Speaker 3>A couple of days and not sleep the entire time.

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 4>That's right.

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 3>So when you put these things together, you're building the structure,

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.919
<v Speaker 3>and then you're coating the structure. It can be one

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 3>kit I saw as a greenhouse. It's a really great greenhouse.

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 3>I bet if you've ever been on a jungle gym

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 3>that was built after the sixties, those dome ones geodesic dome.

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 3>But what the structure can be made from a hollow tubing,

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 3>ply or two by fours, whatever, it can be wood,

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 3>it can be whatever. And then usually the outside the

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 3>triangles that fill in over the structure of concrete or

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 3>plastic or plywood or something like that. And then you

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 3>want to coat it but all those different seals or

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 3>those different seams, they're all just water heaven. Yeah, which

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 3>is again a big problem, well probably problem number one

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 3>practically speaking.

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:42.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting now that I think about it. It's

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>sort of how tent design has gone over the years.

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Tints used to be just like camping tents, just like triangles,

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:54.720
<v Speaker 1>like a pup tent, and then the big dome tints

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 1>came into fashion, and then I think the secret was

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.320
<v Speaker 1>to try and make dome tents with his you seems

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>as possible, Yeah, because that's where your water gets in.

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and his few poles too, Yeah, just a couple

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 3>and then maybe and then there you got. You got

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:12.919
<v Speaker 3>your tent.

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 4>You could be a tent designer.

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 3>I did. I want to go ahead and trademark what

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 3>I just said.

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, should we talk about some famous domes. I think

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 1>we should, because that's always the best part.

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 3>There's the Expo sixty seven to one that, by the way,

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 3>burned as well. Oh really, now the structure stayed. They

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 3>turned it into a biosphere in the nineties.

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 4>I brought no so Brendan Fraser listen there.

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 3>And Paul sure and Stephen Baldwin sure Man alive that's.

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 4>Where he's been. Uh.

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>There is the in these to me, like if you

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 1>look up the how do you pronounce the one in Japan.

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 3>The Fukuoka Yahoo Oko Dome. I was that the full

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 3>name yahoo Oku with an exclamation point because Yahoo.

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 4>Is at the sponsor an rights. Yeah.

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 1>So that is a baseball stadium. But when you look

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>at these like I don't like to me, I think

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>of Epcot. When you look at this baseball stadium, it

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel I mean, it is a geodesic dome, but

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't feel like that kind of futuristic like

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 1>highly paneled triangular thing.

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 3>Well, what's cool about it is the dome part actually retracts, Yeah,

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 3>retractable in like twenty minutes. And the reason to retracts

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 3>so quickly is because it's so lightweight comparatively speaking.

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's pretty sweet. There's the Doma Dome, yeah,

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>which is.

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 3>A wood dome that just does not sound sturdy to me.

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. What was it?

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh our Skyscraper's episode? That was that new Wood skyscraper somewhere?

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Why do I want to say, like Nebraska? I thought

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 1>that was Japan too, Oh was it?

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 3>I think?

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 4>So it's one of the two.

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Right, It's easy to get him confused.

0:40:56.200 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>The Sokka, Nebraska, they sound alike Tacoma Dome is where

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the Sonics used to play.

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 3>They're like, Kevin Durant is gonna love.

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>This, oh man, so sad uh. I wonder when a

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 1>team leaves. I've always wondered if they just because I know,

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 1>like when the Browns left and became the Ravens. You know,

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>my stepfather was like, they were just dead to me.

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Wait what Yeah, that's where the Ravens came from. They

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:25.240
<v Speaker 1>were the Cleveland Browns.

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 3>Where the Browns aren't playing still.

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, they they the Browns had no there

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>were no Browns for years, and then they came back

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and said, we'll give you a team again, Cleveland, and

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:35.919
<v Speaker 1>you can be the Browns again.

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Gotcha.

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>But he Art Modell literally famously packed up in the

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.320
<v Speaker 1>middle of the night, like their footage of eighteen wheeler

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>trucks wow at like two am, like hauling stuff.

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you don't want to leave Cleveland, ask Lebron.

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 1>But they were dead to him after that. And I

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 1>always wonder, like if the Falcons left Atlanta and went

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to Birmingham, they'd still be the same guys. I would

0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be like, no, screw that team.

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 3>No, that's that's definitely how I went with the SuperSonics

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:04.840
<v Speaker 3>for sure. Yeah, Seattle was not very happy about that.

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 4>They were not.

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't Supposedly they're going to get another team one

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 3>of the Microsoft founders. I Guesssniak is talking about bringing them.

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Bring Really, somebody from Microsoft is going to bring a team.

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 3>They're saying, what was.

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:19.240
<v Speaker 4>It Paul Allen?

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so he just passed away though, right,

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was Paul Allen. I mean he owned the Sonics,

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I think, but he was from Microsoft. I'm just getting

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:33.320
<v Speaker 1>all confused now. No, I think was Bill Gates partner

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 1>he died. Yeah, I think he died kind of in

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the last like six months.

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, maybe Seattle's not getting a basketball team.

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure. Okay, where did they go? Oh? Oklahoma City?

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:43.279
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so confusing everyone for two half sports guys

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>like us, we don't even make a full sports guy.

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Who's your team this season?

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 4>Well?

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 1>I always root for the Hawks, but it's just they're

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.759
<v Speaker 1>a wasteland. It's pretty big, so I don't even care.

0:42:58.080 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, who does Shrewder play?

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 4>For now Olama does he?

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was a different Western team, you like

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 3>Lebron in La.

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Sure, we should have a sports show called the Worst

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Sports Show on the Web kind of.

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 3>This is a trailer for it.

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 1>What about the Eden Project? That one's pretty cool? And

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:20.760
<v Speaker 1>aren't there two of these? And there one in China

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 1>as well?

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 3>I think they're going to open one in China. I

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 3>think there's a third one they're opening. But the one

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:29.880
<v Speaker 3>that the original ones in corn Cornwall, I'm sorry, canal.

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 4>Cornhole in the UK.

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 3>God knows how you pronounce that. I guarantee it's not Cornwall.

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 4>Probably Cornwall. Maybe this one's really cool though.

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>This is one where you look it up and you're like,

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 1>this is what you should be doing right with In

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 1>geodesic dome like experimentation.

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 3>They build a diome or biome. Yeah, that's one of

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 3>the points of a geodesic dome is you can create

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:58.320
<v Speaker 3>a different climate inside a larger climate. It's a bubble.

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 3>You're creating a climate bubble. Yeah, that's what the Eden

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Project did at least, and they have two of them.

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 3>They've got a tropical biome and then a smaller Mediterranean biome.

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 3>So cool and they're just beautiful, lots of amazing plants

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 3>and waterfalls and just great stuff. Apparently it's a wonderful

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 3>tourist attraction. I would go, I totally. I think there's

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 3>also a witchcraft museum in Cornwall that I want to

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 3>go to. Let's do it, man, all right, we're going

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:25.240
<v Speaker 3>road trip. Yeah, we got to do a UK tour again.

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was awesome, and.

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Then we'll detour off to Cornwall.

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 4>Maybe do a show there. How many people are there Cornwall?

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Let us know if we should do a show there.

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 4>Let's do a live show inside the Tropical Biome.

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:35.839
<v Speaker 3>That'd be cool.

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 4>I wonder if we could set that up.

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 3>We could also do an a upcot too. We'll we'll

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 3>do a geodesic dome tour.

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 4>Can we do one inside of the castle and the magic?

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 3>And you can ask?

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 4>You have connections there? Right?

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Friend Brandon, that's right who built my site, the Josh

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Clarkway dot com.

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm gonna have to get in touch with

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>him as my kid gets older. I have to finally

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>drag Emily down there.

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 3>He will happily help you out. He's a great guy.

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 3>He helped my brother out. Oh and by the way.

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you brought that up. Congratulations to Brandon and

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:08.799
<v Speaker 3>Katie on the birth of their first ever child.

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, yes, Cooper born into Disney Royalty.

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, pretty much. That's pretty great. Congrats dudes.

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 4>I wonder if Cooper's gonna go up and just be like, yeah,

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 4>take care to leave it. I go like twice a week.

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:22.240
<v Speaker 3>Right, this is euro Disney. I wish it was euro Disney.

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, that is Spaceship Earth, of course, is the one

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about there that we mentioned. One hundred and

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:33.879
<v Speaker 1>eighty feet tall silver geosphere very much the central sort

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:35.280
<v Speaker 1>of shining star of EPCOT.

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 3>That's what everybody thinks of with EPCOT.

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 4>Yep every shirt, well not every shirt, but.

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Did you know that EPCOT is an acronym, Chuck?

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I did, but I remembered that from when I was

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a kid, but I can't remember now.

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 4>What is it?

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow. That's right, And the name

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<v Speaker 3>of the geodesic dome is actually called Spaceship Earth and

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<v Speaker 3>it was direct influenced by Bucky Fuller. Walt Disney was

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<v Speaker 3>a big futurist. That's why there's like tomorrow Land and

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<v Speaker 3>all that stuff. Yeah, and why there's upcott in general.

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<v Speaker 3>But not only did he inspire Spaceship Earth. The name

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<v Speaker 3>Spaceship Earth comes from a Bucky Fuller essay kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a novella called an Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth. You

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<v Speaker 3>can find the pdf for free on the web and

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<v Speaker 3>get a pretty good idea of Bucky Fuller's whole jam.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I heard.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that that very famous Walt Disney signature is

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<v Speaker 1>not his signature, and I believe that a cartoonist designer

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<v Speaker 1>came up with that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's too perfect. I could totally see that. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not I'm not affected by that. I'm okay with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh really, he's not just a big fraud now in

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<v Speaker 4>your mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, I let him off the hook. If you want

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<v Speaker 3>to know more about geodesic domes, go make friends with

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<v Speaker 3>a hippie. And since I said that it's time for

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<v Speaker 3>listener mail.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call one of our new young fans. Got

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<v Speaker 1>a very sweet email from Veronica. Hey, guys, I'm Veronica,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years old and I'm from Indianapolis, Indiana. I just

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<v Speaker 1>heard about Sarah, the thirteen year old superfan who's like

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen out yeah, Sarah's she's Miss carn and I too,

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<v Speaker 1>am a super fan. I started listening when I was

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<v Speaker 1>nine or ten with my mom every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I got an iPod and started listening to regularly

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<v Speaker 1>when I was eleven. I love listening to the show

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm getting ready in the morning and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to school or going to sleep before bed. Every time

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<v Speaker 1>you guys do a tour announcement, I always hope you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to say somewhere close, like within two hours of Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that has ever happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, Cleveland is not that far from Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 1>I took a break from podcasts for about two months,

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<v Speaker 1>but I missed listening to them, so I came back

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<v Speaker 1>and now I'm back regularly again.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to stop in and say hi.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm lucky, I'll make it to the podcast, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't expect it. Just keep being you, guys, because

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<v Speaker 1>I loved to learn about the four different types of

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<v Speaker 1>cat hair, the fact that cinnamon is a type of

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<v Speaker 1>tree bark, perfume is made from whale vomit, and eurosoul

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 1>is what makes poison. I'd be so itchy Wow, my

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<v Speaker 1>mom really likes your beard, Chuck, and she hopes that

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<v Speaker 1>someone gives you some beard.

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<v Speaker 4>Lights for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. I saw those.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know what they are, they are just

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<v Speaker 1>little ornaments that you hang in your beard.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you seen them?

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<v Speaker 4>And they light up SuperFestive?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want some?

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<v Speaker 4>No? Okay, I cut most of my beard.

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<v Speaker 3>I just noticed that it looks very trim.

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<v Speaker 1>This is sort of like the old days. Looks nice

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<v Speaker 1>and that is. She put a sign to Veronica, which

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<v Speaker 1>is adorable. Thank you, Veronica, so Veronica. I think we should.

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<v Speaker 1>We're trying to hit the major cities we've never been to. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we might want to put Indianapolis on the

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<v Speaker 1>list for twenty nineteen. Oh boy, and give Indiana some love.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, fine.

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<v Speaker 1>This year we were like, I don't know, Salt Lake City, Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were great.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true. Well, to be honest, Salt Lake City came

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<v Speaker 3>out for us.

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<v Speaker 4>Time.

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<v Speaker 3>They email us, They're like, yes, pa, can. We got

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<v Speaker 3>such an overwhelming response that we're like, how can we

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 3>say no?

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<v Speaker 1>So we should go to Indianapolis. I told her if

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<v Speaker 1>we do, then we'll put her and mom on.

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<v Speaker 4>The guest list.

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<v Speaker 3>That's very nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, they have a domina settled. They could we

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<v Speaker 4>could go to a show there where the Colts play.

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<v Speaker 3>We could Is it the Colts? What do they play? Soccer?

0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:20.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? But they came from Baltimore, who then became the Ravens.

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:22.760
<v Speaker 4>It's just so weird. Everyone's moving all over the place.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the great leader of the Pacers? Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Victor the great leader? Yeah, great leader?

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<v Speaker 3>Kim Jong Victor.

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<v Speaker 4>Another coach?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, he's like their captain. But yeah, he's a player.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Run our test or right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Victor Borgia, Yes, Victor Borgia is now anyway, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to list him to once I remember his last name,

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<v Speaker 3>because he's a Victor Victoria player. If you want to know, well,

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