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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chuck here in twenty twenty three, but I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna hop us all in the wayback machine and take

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Speaker 1: us back to December twenty eighteen to listen to our

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Speaker 1: episode on geodesic domes, because this ties into the live

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Speaker 1: show that we did last year all about the biosphere

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Speaker 1: to project. The geodesic dome figured in very prominently in

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Speaker 1: that project. We talk all about Buckminster Fuller in this episode,

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Speaker 1: who also figured into that live podcast. And check it

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Speaker 1: out now. If you're into architecture or just cool things,

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Speaker 1: listen to Geodesic Domes colon the Wave of the Future that.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm British Josh, there's

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Speaker 3: American Chuck, and there's neutral Swisserland Jerry, which, by the way,

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Speaker 3: now we're saying Swisserland, Switzerland just decided because it's close

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Speaker 3: to the end of the year and I'm about to

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Speaker 3: die of exhaustion.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 1: On the Friendly Fire Movie podcast, Ben Harrison, you know Ben,

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Speaker 1: he says, Nazzis.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Nazis. That's like kind of like a throwback.

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Speaker 3: That's like the greatest generation.

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Speaker 1: Why I'm saying yeah, And I know he does it

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Speaker 1: as an affectation, sure, but now I got it from him,

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Speaker 1: and he got it from God elsewhere, his great grandpa

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Speaker 1: maybe nazzis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a pretty great.

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Speaker 1: Way to see because there's a lot of occasion to

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Speaker 3: Sure a lot.

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Speaker 4: Hell you mentioned this, uh and why did you say

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Speaker 3: Because I chuck say geodesic and you.

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Speaker 4: Say geodesic and we just looked it.

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Speaker 3: Up, which I mean, that's like the first time in.

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Speaker 1: Years the lady said geodesic and I was like, yes,

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: We're so far off course already. Jerry's just got Ramen

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Speaker 3: coming through her nose. She thought that was so funny.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for the laugh, Jerry. Well, we are talking about

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Speaker 3: geodesic desk. Maybe we should just say that every time

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Speaker 4: I'm sure people would love that.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to say geodesic because that's what I've always said.

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Speaker 3: That's fine. We're talking about domes, geodesic domes. And if

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Speaker 3: you've seen a geodesic dome. If you've ever been to Epcot,

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Speaker 1: Do you like these as like people's houses in a

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Speaker 3: So clearly we're talking again about geodesic domes. And there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were going toward it, and looking back, they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was a good It was a good

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Speaker 1: we'll get into all those, but first and foremost, you

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Speaker 4: The whole thing.

442
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 3: Since it is such like an efficient structure that can

443
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 3: support a lot of weight, you do see it in

444
00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 3: things like eggs cornea the testicle, which I'm like, sure, really,

445
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 3: I guess so I couldn't find that anywhere else, and

446
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 3: I definitely typed testicle geodesic dome into Google and it

447
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 3: didn't really come back with anything. But this nineteen sixty

448
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,479
Speaker 3: four Time article says it.

449
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: So it's so well, the dome period is a pretty

450
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: strong structure. The Romans were building really big, strong domes

451
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 1: a long long time ago, but they don't stay strong

452
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: for long. That's sort of one of the problems with

453
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: a dome, just a regular dome, is that you need

454
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: a lot of super heavy supporting materials and walls to

455
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: keep it up, and over time they wear out. But

456
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: what Fuller did was took that sort of same principle

457
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 1: and applied this geometry to it and these triangles that

458
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: the Romans didn't.

459
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 4: Think of, and the rest is history. I guess.

460
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. What he found was that when you put these

461
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 3: fears together, you created what he called a vector equilibrium,

462
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 3: the outward force of the thing that's trying to collapse.

463
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: You know, like if you if you could press down

464
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 3: on the roof of the house, it would collapse outward

465
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 3: to the sides. Yes, same thing wants to happen to

466
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 3: geodesic dome. But in a geodesic dome, that pressure outward

467
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 3: from the force of gravity is actually equal to the

468
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: force that's being distributed around it, the circumferential force, and

469
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 3: since they're equal measures, they cancel each other out. Yeah,

470
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 3: so it's just like the thing is gravity free.

471
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

472
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you see, you definitely see why he was like,

473
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: this is the house of the future because they were cheap,

474
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: they were strong, there were lightweight, and you know, they

475
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: distribute like heat just blows around them because around they're

476
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: really efficient to heat and cool.

477
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 4: There are a lot of really great advantages to them. Yeah.

478
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 3: And so when he I can't remember when he made

479
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: his first one, I think it was at a World's fair.

480
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 4: Was that the Montreal was that the first one?

481
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: No, Montreal was sixty seven. This one would have been

482
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 3: in Moscow fifty four.

483
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 4: Well, that's when he got his patent.

484
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess this would have been before the right

485
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 3: around the same time, but in fifty nine. Yeah, I

486
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: guess the first one must have been Ford, the Ford plant.

487
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Ford Motor Company wanted covering.

488
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: And he said, well, I think this is the trick

489
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: and he built it, he was like, I can, and

490
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: this is what Ford wants to hear or any company.

491
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: He was like, it'll be better and cheaper, and I'll

492
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: get it done faster than any of these other schmucks.

493
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: And so bear in mind that when Ford called them

494
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 3: from Dearborn, Michigan, that they no one had ever come

495
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 3: up with this before. They thought, since they wanted to

496
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: enclose their courtyard, the central courtyard and just rotunda that

497
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: they'd built, that it was going to have to be

498
00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 3: a traditional dome with buttresses and supports and like heavy

499
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: walls and all that. The problem was because the coreover

500
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: was so far across I think it was more than

501
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: thirty meters ninety feet across. Anything that they built would

502
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 3: probably collapse the walls of this very sturdy rotunda building.

503
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 3: So they had a problem. And when they called Buckminster Fuller,

504
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: I don't know how who got in touch with who.

505
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: It was pretty brazen for him to say what you said.

506
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 3: He said that he can get this done below cost

507
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 3: in time, it's going to be super light. And he

508
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 3: proved the world wrong, his doubters wrong, at least when

509
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: he built the first geodesic dome over it and it

510
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 3: was pretty awesome. Also, we didn't mention he was a freshman,

511
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: a freshman college dropout, so he's self taught and he

512
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 3: just came along and showed the world of engineering basically

513
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 3: a brand new type of structure, an incredibly elegantly efficient

514
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: type of structure. He just showed the world it could

515
00:25:59,240 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 3: be done.

516
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 4: People are just born with like a certain kind of brain.

517
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: That's why he deserves his own episode first.

518
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Ford Dome was great for a while

519
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: until nineteen sixty two when it was leaking and they said, hey,

520
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: this thing's leaking, we need to do some repair work.

521
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: So they were doing that, and they were waterproofing and

522
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 1: weatherproofing the panels, and they were using a waterproof see

523
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: through transparent waterproof sealer. But to make it easier to spray,

524
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: they heated it up, which makes sense. But unfortunately those

525
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: vapors ignited from a propane heater. This thing caught on fire.

526
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: And I get the idea that it was like the

527
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: whole thing was done in like an hour.

528
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they sealed a lot of it with the waterproofing,

529
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 3: the highly flammable waterproofing stuff. So when a little bit

530
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 3: caught those vapors caught the whole dome. Yea caught fire

531
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: and it was made of like aluminium in plastic, so

532
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: it just went up like a match. Yeah, and they

533
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 3: were decorating for the Christmas Fantasy Exhibit low in the courtyard.

534
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: All that stuff caught on fire. Man, it burned the

535
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: whole rotunda down.

536
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: Imagine building.

537
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: There's nothing more flammable than Christmas decorations in the early noies.

538
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 4: Not a chance. Yeah, it was really sad.

539
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: Everyone got out of there, which is good, but by

540
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: the time the fire department got there, it.

541
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 4: Was too late.

542
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: It was toast.

543
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: So again he foot flames Like I can't imagine what

544
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 4: that scene looked like.

545
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: And it burned the whole building down. Oh yeah, Like

546
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: this was actually a tourist attraction. And do you imagine

547
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 3: going to Dearborn, Michigan.

548
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 4: To see the fod Dome.

549
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what people did. I think it had seen

550
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 3: like eighteen million visitors in like it's twenty or thirty

551
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: years of operation and this, this waterproofing fixed burned the

552
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: whole thing down at Christmas time. So this I love

553
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 3: how this article kind of brushes over it says no

554
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: matter buck mister Fuller's geodesic dome had shown that it

555
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 3: could be done.

556
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it bears a little more digging in that for.

557
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 3: Sure, but it is true like he had shown the

558
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: world there's this thing, and we should start making them

559
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 3: because they are efficient, cheap, affordable and highly transportable. And

560
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: apparently next the next people that call was the military

561
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: because they wanted to start using them as like anarctic

562
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: bases or to cover radar dishes, that kind of thing.

563
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he very famously too in nineteen sixty seven. At no, was.

564
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: This the World's Fair versus a different thing? No, they

565
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: just didn't call it World's Fair, right. The Universal Exposition

566
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: in Montreal in sixty seven very famously had a two

567
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: hundred foot tall dome, and he was he was really

568
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: trying to push the limits of what you could do,

569
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: Like he dreamed of enclosing part of Manhattan in a dome. Yeah,

570
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: and saying we could give you clean air and climate control.

571
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: Then it'll pay for itself over time because you won't

572
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: have to use snowplows and all these other things that

573
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: cost money.

574
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: It seems ghastly, almost like a burnsyan type of idea.

575
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: Well it would, I mean definitely be a certain class

576
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: of people that lived in that thing.

577
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I doubt if he'd be like, we'll do

578
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: it over all of you know. Queen's right.

579
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: Well, yeah it was lower. It was twenty second to

580
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: sixty second. I think from river to river in Manhattan.

581
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 4: Wow, it was.

582
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 3: It was going to be huge. And he did say

583
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: it could pay for itself just from snow removal, not

584
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: having to do snow removal. But imagine not having precipitation ever.

585
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: It's just it's it's wrong. There's something wrong with that.

586
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: But it really captures the can do engineering spirit of

587
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: mid century America for sure.

588
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

589
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean you can do a cool experiment with like

590
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: a biosphere type of thing. You don't want Manhattan covered

591
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: by a dome, n you know all the smells maybe

592
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: Topeka or something like that. And that's one of the

593
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: problems is all the smells. Apparently did they just fill

594
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: up that dome. There's nothing to stop it.

595
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, the sewer gas accumulating at the top and

596
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: eventually exploding. Yeah, no good the Ghostbusters run around shooting

597
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: off proton packs inside that thing.

598
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: No good, Man's in a while. Since a gb ref,

599
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: should we take a break all right, we'll be right.

600
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: Back, all right.

601
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: So the sixties and seventies come along. He's been doing

602
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: a thing in the fifties, and this is when the

603
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: counterculture and the anti mainstream sort of vibe was hitting,

604
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: and so it was sort of prime. It was sort

605
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: of primed for these things to come into fashion. And

606
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: they did just for regular old houses. Yeah, they didn't

607
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: sweep the nation, but you know.

608
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: There were enough people looking for ways to very blatantly

609
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: thumb their nose that the established look.

610
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 4: At my round house basically.

611
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again like it really does. It does provide

612
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: a lot of benefits that other ones don't, right, So,

613
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: like because it's a it's a sphere and it's basically

614
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: one big room.

615
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yes, but you can build rooms inside of it.

616
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: You can't sure. But the heat in the the air

617
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: distribution is really efficient, so it's very cheap to heat

618
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: and cool. I think that the average number that people

619
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: reported was about thirty percent savings in energy costs.

620
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: That sounds totally made.

621
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: Up, it does, but I saw as high as fifty.

622
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: And it seems like the world said, no, we'll go

623
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: with thirty. Sure, we'll go at the lower And so

624
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: you've got heating and cooling efficiencies, like you were saying,

625
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: because it's round, it's not trying to stop wind like

626
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: cool wind, hot wind when it runs into your house.

627
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: If it's a rectangular house craftsman, mid century modern, who

628
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: cares it runs into it and it's going to transfer

629
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: heat or cold into your house?

630
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, in my case, right through my windows.

631
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: And okay, yeah, it's a great, great example. The thing

632
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: is is you don't want that heat or that cool

633
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: in there usually, so you're gonna have to spend a

634
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: lot of money to artificially pump it out right. Yeah,

635
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: through ac with a geodesic dome, the wind kind of

636
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: just moves around it. It's super aerodynamic, so it's not

637
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: just running into this flat surface and trying to go through.

638
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: It's just like, excuse me, I'll just go around.

639
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why they're great in Antarctica. They can

640
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: withstand whatever kind of weather they throw. They Antarctica. They

641
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: and I have seen some of these at the beach. Again,

642
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: they're not like the coolest looking beach house, but you

643
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: see them, you know, you'll see like quaint old beach

644
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: house cape cod geodesic dome. Yeah, and then like mcmhanson,

645
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: and I imagine they do very well at the beach.

646
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, because after a hurricane, if a hurricane is bad enough,

647
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: you see empty lot, empty lot, geodesic dome, empty lot,

648
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: And apparently that's it's anecdotal, but that's the been reported

649
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: that geodesic domes can make it through substantial hurricanes when

650
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: the rest of the houses around it did not.

651
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes sense.

652
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: Some of the disadvantages is like we're joking about the smell,

653
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: but it's really true smell and sound. If you've just

654
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: got a big globe that you're inside, are really going

655
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: to move around. There's not a ton of privacy. Even

656
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: though you can build out sort of like living in

657
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: a loft. You know, you can build out rooms, but

658
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: if your rooms don't have a ceiling, although I guess

659
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: you could do that.

660
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: Too, you could, but then you're like, well, you know.

661
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 4: Like why am I even in a right exactly? Light

662
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 4: as well, that's a big one.

663
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like the little light on your router

664
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: that's like really bright at night. Imagine that just being

665
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: dist did throughout your entire house. Yeah, no, good, No,

666
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: that's not a good one. Plus, I mean, if you

667
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: look at any piece of furniture that's ever been created

668
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: in the history of humanity. It's all meant for rectangular structures.

669
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, unless it's some sort of custom piece for a

670
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: geodesic dome, which is very expensive. Yeah, you have to

671
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: get all this stuff made yourself. And the same goes

672
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: true for like the construction world is set up for

673
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: square right, So fixtures and plumbing and pipes and all

674
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: that stuff has to be sort of and contractors get

675
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: scared away from.

676
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: Me saying, oh, yeah, they won't come near it.

677
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, unless you're just a specialist.

678
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 3: Sure, and you're probably like the highest paid contractor in

679
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: the world, yes, who works like once a year. Yes,

680
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: but those same disadvantages are also advantages, right, Like you

681
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: have a lot more floor.

682
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 4: Space, yeah, but sometimes it's wasted.

683
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: It can be like if you've got a big long couch,

684
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of space behind it that's just

685
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: sitting there, a little a little semicircle behind you.

686
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 3: That's why a lot of and I think this is

687
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: the reason why I'm not super hip on gidsigtomes is

688
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 3: a lot of the stuff is just kind of out

689
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: in the center of the room, right, right, And it

690
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: looks adrift or unanchored. That's a good thing about a

691
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: wall or a corner or something like that. It provides

692
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 3: a visual anchor to your stuff.

693
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 4: No one can sneak up on you.

694
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 3: No, it's maybe that's why I don't like it. I'm like,

695
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 3: what's what's behind me?

696
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 4: Do you like your back against the wall in a restaurant?

697
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: No?

698
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: I don't care about that.

699
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 4: Oh man, do you Yeah?

700
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: Really you're afraid you're gonna eat?

701
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: What?

702
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 3: Are you a gangster or something?

703
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 4: No? I don't think I'm gonna get whacked.

704
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: It's just, uh, I just feel exposed. And Emily is

705
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: very sweet. She's usually like, go ahead and take the seat,

706
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: but lately she's been like, no, that's mine.

707
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, wow, what'd you do?

708
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 4: Nothing?

709
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: Man, it's just the time we're living in she's doing it.

710
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: So do you sit there and like turn around every

711
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: time somebody comes in.

712
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 4: The waiter comes in and I punch him, turn around

713
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 4: and punch him. Don't touch my stuff? Uh.

714
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: Rain, We talked about rain. It can be problematic. Yeah,

715
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: And it says in here that flat roofs are the best.

716
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: What they mean are flat roofs at an angle right

717
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: because a truly flat roof, it's not good. Frank Lloyd

718
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: Wright did a bunch of those, and they were his

719
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: houses were could be very problematic. He had the very

720
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: famous exchange. I can't remember the person, but it was

721
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: some very very wealthy, sort of noteworthy person. Frank Loyd

722
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: Wright built him a house and he called and complained

723
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 1: and said, the water is now dripping onto my desk,

724
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: And supposedly Frank Loyd Wright said move the desk.

725
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 3: And that sounds like frankly right. Yeah, for sure.

726
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a true story, but I love.

727
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: You it's true. Yeah, yeah, So with with the with

728
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: the shingle roof, even with the flat roof, like a

729
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: flat roof is not moving water, but it's probably not

730
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 3: coming down. There's not as many places for it to

731
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 3: come down. With a geodesic dome. Every place where your struts,

732
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: the sides of the triangle come together at an angle

733
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: at the nodes, there is a point where water can

734
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: get in, and actually you can get in along where

735
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: one triangle goes into another. There's a lot of places

736
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: for water to penetrate the geodesic dome. It's a water

737
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 3: nightmare from what I can tell.

738
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: Well, let's put together from a lot of little panels.

739
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's just really briefly say that. So one

740
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: of the things, one of the reasons why people were

741
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: crazy for geodesic domes is you could put them together.

742
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: Like we said in.

743
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 4: A day, Yeah, you can get a color coded kit.

744
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: You still can, and there are companies out there that

745
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: will send them to you, and you can get your friends,

746
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: get some good sixty speed.

747
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: In a case of beer or two, and build your

748
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: house in.

749
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 3: A couple of days and not sleep the entire time.

750
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 4: That's right.

751
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: So when you put these things together, you're building the structure,

752
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 3: and then you're coating the structure. It can be one

753
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: kit I saw as a greenhouse. It's a really great greenhouse.

754
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 3: I bet if you've ever been on a jungle gym

755
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 3: that was built after the sixties, those dome ones geodesic dome.

756
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: But what the structure can be made from a hollow tubing,

757
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: ply or two by fours, whatever, it can be wood,

758
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: it can be whatever. And then usually the outside the

759
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: triangles that fill in over the structure of concrete or

760
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: plastic or plywood or something like that. And then you

761
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: want to coat it but all those different seals or

762
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: those different seams, they're all just water heaven. Yeah, which

763
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: is again a big problem, well probably problem number one

764
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 3: practically speaking.

765
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting now that I think about it. It's

766
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: sort of how tent design has gone over the years.

767
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: Tints used to be just like camping tents, just like triangles,

768
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 1: like a pup tent, and then the big dome tints

769
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: came into fashion, and then I think the secret was

770
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: to try and make dome tents with his you seems

771
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: as possible, Yeah, because that's where your water gets in.

772
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and his few poles too, Yeah, just a couple

773
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: and then maybe and then there you got. You got

774
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 3: your tent.

775
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 4: You could be a tent designer.

776
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 3: I did. I want to go ahead and trademark what

777
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 3: I just said.

778
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: Okay, should we talk about some famous domes. I think

779
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: we should, because that's always the best part.

780
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: There's the Expo sixty seven to one that, by the way,

781
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 3: burned as well. Oh really, now the structure stayed. They

782
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: turned it into a biosphere in the nineties.

783
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 4: I brought no so Brendan Fraser listen there.

784
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 3: And Paul sure and Stephen Baldwin sure Man alive that's.

785
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 4: Where he's been. Uh.

786
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: There is the in these to me, like if you

787
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: look up the how do you pronounce the one in Japan.

788
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 3: The Fukuoka Yahoo Oko Dome. I was that the full

789
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: name yahoo Oku with an exclamation point because Yahoo.

790
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 4: Is at the sponsor an rights. Yeah.

791
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: So that is a baseball stadium. But when you look

792
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: at these like I don't like to me, I think

793
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: of Epcot. When you look at this baseball stadium, it

794
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: doesn't feel I mean, it is a geodesic dome, but

795
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel like that kind of futuristic like

796
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: highly paneled triangular thing.

797
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: Well, what's cool about it is the dome part actually retracts, Yeah,

798
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 3: retractable in like twenty minutes. And the reason to retracts

799
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: so quickly is because it's so lightweight comparatively speaking.

800
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's pretty sweet. There's the Doma Dome, yeah,

801
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: which is.

802
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: A wood dome that just does not sound sturdy to me.

803
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 4: Yeah. What was it?

804
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: Oh our Skyscraper's episode? That was that new Wood skyscraper somewhere?

805
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: Why do I want to say, like Nebraska? I thought

806
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: that was Japan too, Oh was it?

807
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 3: I think?

808
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 4: So it's one of the two.

809
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: Right, It's easy to get him confused.

810
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: The Sokka, Nebraska, they sound alike Tacoma Dome is where

811
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: the Sonics used to play.

812
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: They're like, Kevin Durant is gonna love.

813
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: This, oh man, so sad uh. I wonder when a

814
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: team leaves. I've always wondered if they just because I know,

815
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: like when the Browns left and became the Ravens. You know,

816
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: my stepfather was like, they were just dead to me.

817
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: Wait what Yeah, that's where the Ravens came from. They

818
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: were the Cleveland Browns.

819
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 3: Where the Browns aren't playing still.

820
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: No, no, no, they they the Browns had no there

821
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: were no Browns for years, and then they came back

822
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: and said, we'll give you a team again, Cleveland, and

823
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: you can be the Browns again.

824
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: Gotcha.

825
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: But he Art Modell literally famously packed up in the

826
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: middle of the night, like their footage of eighteen wheeler

827
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: trucks wow at like two am, like hauling stuff.

828
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to leave Cleveland, ask Lebron.

829
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: But they were dead to him after that. And I

830
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: always wonder, like if the Falcons left Atlanta and went

831
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: to Birmingham, they'd still be the same guys. I would

832
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be like, no, screw that team.

833
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: No, that's that's definitely how I went with the SuperSonics

834
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: for sure. Yeah, Seattle was not very happy about that.

835
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 4: They were not.

836
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 3: I don't Supposedly they're going to get another team one

837
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 3: of the Microsoft founders. I Guesssniak is talking about bringing them.

838
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: Bring Really, somebody from Microsoft is going to bring a team.

839
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: They're saying, what was.

840
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 4: It Paul Allen?

841
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so he just passed away though, right,

842
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: Maybe it was Paul Allen. I mean he owned the Sonics,

843
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: I think, but he was from Microsoft. I'm just getting

844
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: all confused now. No, I think was Bill Gates partner

845
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: he died. Yeah, I think he died kind of in

846
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: the last like six months.

847
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: Oh well, maybe Seattle's not getting a basketball team.

848
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. Okay, where did they go? Oh? Oklahoma City?

849
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: Right?

850
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so confusing everyone for two half sports guys

851
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: like us, we don't even make a full sports guy.

852
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 3: Who's your team this season?

853
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: Well?

854
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: I always root for the Hawks, but it's just they're

855
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: a wasteland. It's pretty big, so I don't even care.

856
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, who does Shrewder play?

857
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 4: For now Olama does he?

858
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: I thought it was a different Western team, you like

859
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: Lebron in La.

860
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: Sure, we should have a sports show called the Worst

861
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: Sports Show on the Web kind of.

862
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: This is a trailer for it.

863
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: What about the Eden Project? That one's pretty cool? And

864
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: aren't there two of these? And there one in China

865
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: as well?

866
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: I think they're going to open one in China. I

867
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: think there's a third one they're opening. But the one

868
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 3: that the original ones in corn Cornwall, I'm sorry, canal.

869
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 4: Cornhole in the UK.

870
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: God knows how you pronounce that. I guarantee it's not Cornwall.

871
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 4: Probably Cornwall. Maybe this one's really cool though.

872
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: This is one where you look it up and you're like,

873
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: this is what you should be doing right with In

874
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: geodesic dome like experimentation.

875
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: They build a diome or biome. Yeah, that's one of

876
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: the points of a geodesic dome is you can create

877
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 3: a different climate inside a larger climate. It's a bubble.

878
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: You're creating a climate bubble. Yeah, that's what the Eden

879
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 3: Project did at least, and they have two of them.

880
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: They've got a tropical biome and then a smaller Mediterranean biome.

881
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: So cool and they're just beautiful, lots of amazing plants

882
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: and waterfalls and just great stuff. Apparently it's a wonderful

883
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: tourist attraction. I would go, I totally. I think there's

884
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: also a witchcraft museum in Cornwall that I want to

885
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: go to. Let's do it, man, all right, we're going

886
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 3: road trip. Yeah, we got to do a UK tour again.

887
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was awesome, and.

888
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: Then we'll detour off to Cornwall.

889
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 4: Maybe do a show there. How many people are there Cornwall?

890
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: Let us know if we should do a show there.

891
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 4: Let's do a live show inside the Tropical Biome.

892
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 3: That'd be cool.

893
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: I wonder if we could set that up.

894
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: We could also do an a upcot too. We'll we'll

895
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: do a geodesic dome tour.

896
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 4: Can we do one inside of the castle and the magic?

897
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 3: And you can ask?

898
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 4: You have connections there? Right?

899
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: Friend Brandon, that's right who built my site, the Josh

901
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: Clarkway dot com.

902
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna have to get in touch with

903
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: him as my kid gets older. I have to finally

904
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: drag Emily down there.

905
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: He will happily help you out. He's a great guy.

906
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: He helped my brother out. Oh and by the way.

907
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up. Congratulations to Brandon and

908
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 3: Katie on the birth of their first ever child.

909
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 4: Oh wow, yes, Cooper born into Disney Royalty.

910
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much. That's pretty great. Congrats dudes.

911
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 4: I wonder if Cooper's gonna go up and just be like, yeah,

912
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 4: take care to leave it. I go like twice a week.

913
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 3: Right, this is euro Disney. I wish it was euro Disney.

914
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: Well, that is Spaceship Earth, of course, is the one

915
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: we're talking about there that we mentioned. One hundred and

916
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: eighty feet tall silver geosphere very much the central sort

917
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: of shining star of EPCOT.

918
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: That's what everybody thinks of with EPCOT.

919
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 4: Yep every shirt, well not every shirt, but.

920
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: Did you know that EPCOT is an acronym, Chuck?

921
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: I did, but I remembered that from when I was

922
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: a kid, but I can't remember now.

923
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 4: What is it?

924
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow. That's right, And the name

925
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: of the geodesic dome is actually called Spaceship Earth and

926
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: it was direct influenced by Bucky Fuller. Walt Disney was

927
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: a big futurist. That's why there's like tomorrow Land and

928
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 3: all that stuff. Yeah, and why there's upcott in general.

929
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 3: But not only did he inspire Spaceship Earth. The name

930
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: Spaceship Earth comes from a Bucky Fuller essay kind of

931
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: a novella called an Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth. You

932
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: can find the pdf for free on the web and

933
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: get a pretty good idea of Bucky Fuller's whole jam.

934
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 4: You know what I heard.

935
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: I heard that that very famous Walt Disney signature is

936
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: not his signature, and I believe that a cartoonist designer

937
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: came up with that.

938
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 3: It's too perfect. I could totally see that. Yeah, I'm

939
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: not I'm not affected by that. I'm okay with it.

940
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 4: Oh really, he's not just a big fraud now in

941
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 4: your mind.

942
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: Basically, I let him off the hook. If you want

943
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: to know more about geodesic domes, go make friends with

944
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: a hippie. And since I said that it's time for

945
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: listener mail.

946
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call one of our new young fans. Got

947
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: a very sweet email from Veronica. Hey, guys, I'm Veronica,

948
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: fifteen years old and I'm from Indianapolis, Indiana. I just

949
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: heard about Sarah, the thirteen year old superfan who's like

950
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: fifteen out yeah, Sarah's she's Miss carn and I too,

951
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: am a super fan. I started listening when I was

952
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: nine or ten with my mom every once in a while.

953
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: Then I got an iPod and started listening to regularly

954
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: when I was eleven. I love listening to the show

955
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: when I'm getting ready in the morning and I'm going

956
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: to school or going to sleep before bed. Every time

957
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: you guys do a tour announcement, I always hope you're

958
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: going to say somewhere close, like within two hours of Indianapolis.

959
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: But I don't think that has ever happened.

960
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 3: Dude, Cleveland is not that far from Indianapolis.

961
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Speaker 1: I took a break from podcasts for about two months,

962
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: but I missed listening to them, so I came back

963
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: and now I'm back regularly again.

964
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: I just want to stop in and say hi.

965
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: If I'm lucky, I'll make it to the podcast, but

966
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Speaker 1: I don't expect it. Just keep being you, guys, because

967
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: I loved to learn about the four different types of

968
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: cat hair, the fact that cinnamon is a type of

969
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: tree bark, perfume is made from whale vomit, and eurosoul

970
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: is what makes poison. I'd be so itchy Wow, my

971
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: mom really likes your beard, Chuck, and she hopes that

972
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Speaker 1: someone gives you some beard.

973
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 4: Lights for Christmas.

974
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 3: Oh. I saw those.

975
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: If you don't know what they are, they are just

976
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: little ornaments that you hang in your beard.

977
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: Have you seen them?

978
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 4: And they light up SuperFestive?

979
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: Do you want some?

980
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 4: No? Okay, I cut most of my beard.

981
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 3: I just noticed that it looks very trim.

982
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: This is sort of like the old days. Looks nice

983
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: and that is. She put a sign to Veronica, which

984
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: is adorable. Thank you, Veronica, so Veronica. I think we should.

985
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: We're trying to hit the major cities we've never been to. Eventually,

986
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: I think we might want to put Indianapolis on the

987
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: list for twenty nineteen. Oh boy, and give Indiana some love.

988
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 3: Okay, fine.

989
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: This year we were like, I don't know, Salt Lake City, Phoenix,

990
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: and they were great.

991
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: It's true. Well, to be honest, Salt Lake City came

992
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: out for us.

993
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 4: Time.

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00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: They email us, They're like, yes, pa, can. We got

995
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: such an overwhelming response that we're like, how can we

996
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: say no?

997
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: So we should go to Indianapolis. I told her if

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00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: we do, then we'll put her and mom on.

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00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 4: The guest list.

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Speaker 3: That's very nice.

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00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, they have a domina settled. They could we

1002
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 4: could go to a show there where the Colts play.

1003
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: We could Is it the Colts? What do they play? Soccer?

1004
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 4: Yeah? But they came from Baltimore, who then became the Ravens.

1005
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 4: It's just so weird. Everyone's moving all over the place.

1006
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: Who's the great leader of the Pacers? Now?

1007
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 4: Victor the great leader? Yeah, great leader?

1008
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 3: Kim Jong Victor.

1009
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 4: Another coach?

1010
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: No, no, he's like their captain. But yeah, he's a player.

1011
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 4: I don't know. Run our test or right now.

1012
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: Victor Borgia, Yes, Victor Borgia is now anyway, we're going

1013
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: to list him to once I remember his last name,

1014
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: because he's a Victor Victoria player. If you want to know, well,

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00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: I already said that. If you want to get in

1016
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 3: touch with us, you can go to stuffishouando dot com

1017
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 3: and you will find all of our social links there

1018
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: and you can always send us an email all to

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Speaker 3: stuff podcast at HowStuffWorks dot com.

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