1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobel 3 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 3: A lot of breaking news today. We'll get to some 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 3: of it, and we'll welcome in Royal Oaks on the 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 3: issue of Carvallo and the superintendent of la USD now 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 3: being placed on administrative leap haid leave, and I'll start there, 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 3: and then I want to pivot to the Clintons in 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: the Epstein situation. But Royal welcome and wonder what you 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: can add to this situation. 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: Well, first I have to say, Mark, it's always pleasure 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: to talk to you, but I'm not going to interrupt 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: you because I heard what happened to Mark a few 14 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: minutes ago when she when she broke in and you 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: were talking about and you really give it, so man, 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: I'm just going to wait and tell the question. Mark. 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 3: Now, you felt I was too heavy handed in my 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: in my treatment of Deborah when she interrupted me when 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: I was I was laying down a yarn, I was 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: trying to tell a story. 21 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 4: I was trying to stick to the landing and she 22 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 4: interrupted me. 23 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, bad for her. You know what, Royal I. 24 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 5: Work with John Cobel, Yes, exactly. 25 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 4: That's right, I compared to co Bell. Yeah, okay, good. 26 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: So here's the deal. Yeah, the breaking news. As Debra said, 27 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: I mean we've been wondering, you know, what's he you know, 28 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: done wrong? If anything? Is he really a target or 29 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: they just want to look at his laptop as somebody 30 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: else in trouble but not so much him. Well, the 31 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: deal is, uh, the governmental entity, like the school board, 32 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: they have a right under the rules to say, hmmm, 33 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: until things settle, you're going to be you know, out 34 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: out of the office. It's for the integrity of the office, 35 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: to promote confidence among taxpayers. It's a little different mark 36 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: for private employees, you know, they have more like First 37 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: Amendment rights, like hey, you know one of my chopped 38 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: livery here. Not only have I not been convicted, I 39 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: have not been charged. We don't even know if they're 40 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: going to charge me. So Cavallo doesn't have the same 41 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: rights as other folks. So he's going to have to 42 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: be on the bench for a while, not helping the 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: kids get through K twelve. 44 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: So as long as you're paying the person in this case, 45 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: the superintendent, you're okay. If they were to say we're 46 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: suspending him without pay. Then you'd have a legal problem. 47 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, depending on the nuts and bolts and the 48 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: fine print and the contract. From his standpoint, whether he 49 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: gets paid or not, it's a lose situation because you know, 50 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: if you're told stay home, everybody in the county is saying, oh, well, 51 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: he must be guilty, And of course that isn't necessarily true, 52 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: but you know, it helps for them to say, hey, 53 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: you are going to give you, give you the money. 54 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: Of course, you know, when my teachers are used to 55 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: doing horrible things, but we can't fire them because of 56 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: some rules, they go to the rubber room and they 57 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: get paid. So you know, you may get paid. But 58 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: his main job, I think is what's clear the name. 59 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: I mean, they rated just to you know, for those 60 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: maybe not following all the ex's and o's, they rated 61 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: the property that is linked to someone who worked with 62 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: the AI company. This is down in Florida, that was 63 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: very much part of this. So it begins to the 64 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: constellation of seizures, and then this dismissal begins to kind 65 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: of play into a narrative that might suggest at some 66 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 3: point someone will be charged. 67 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: Certainly, the investigation has a lot of momentum right now. 68 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, and the last did pay this 69 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: company three million bucks for their AI chatbot called ed 70 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: How long it took them to come up. 71 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 4: With that name. 72 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: But it doesn't necessarily mean that Carrollo has done anything wrong. 73 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: But you know, there's a lot of smoke and a 74 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: lot of people are going to assume there's some fire 75 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: under there. 76 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the Epstein testimony today again, 77 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: closed door testimony with Bill Clinton. Hillary Clinton was yesterday, 78 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: and Hillary Clinton seemed to you know, if anybody's got 79 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: high ground, it's probably Hillary Clinton in the sense that 80 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: she you know, she didn't there's no evidence that she 81 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: was on the plane. There's no evidence that she was right, 82 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: I mean, but Bill Clinton kind of a different story. 83 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. I think comparently she never met the guy 84 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: and so she had to say like ten times no 85 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: and about him and meet him, et cetera. And of 86 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: course there's some weird questions about UFOs and Pizzagate to 87 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: Hillary yesterday. We don't know why people asked her about that. 88 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: We should know in the next twenty four to forty 89 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: eight hours what happened, because we're going to get the 90 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: video and get a transcript. But today was Bill Clinton's 91 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: day and apparently, you know, he answered every question asked. 92 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: The chairman of the committee, Mark came out at the 93 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: end of the day and said, well, he did attempt 94 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: to respond to every single question asked. His lawyer told 95 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: him to shut up. And I'm thinking, really, did the 96 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: lawyer and the deposition turn to him and say Bill 97 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: shut up? I doubt it. I mean, he's the former president. 98 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, there's no breaking news in 99 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: the sensitive course he said, I didn't do anything wrong. 100 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: I just terminated my relationship with him before the charges 101 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: even came up. You know the fun picture of Bill 102 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: Clinton sitting in a hot tub with a few women 103 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: whose faces were blurred. Okay, they asked him about that. 104 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: We don't know exactly what he said, but you know, 105 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm go, I've got one hundred dollars that he said. Well, 106 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: when I go to resorts and you know, hang around 107 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: with people, sometimes we're in hot tubs, sometimes there are 108 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: people I know, sometimes that people I don't know. It 109 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything wrong went on. So the process was 110 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: the big deal, Mark. I mean, they have almost were 111 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: thinking about charging them with contempt for not testifying. And 112 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: now the Democrats are saying, Hey, what's good for the 113 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: goose is good for the gander. When we take over 114 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: the Congress next year, when we flip the script in 115 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: the midterms, we run the committees, We're going to call 116 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump down to Capitol Hill and he can tell 117 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 1: us what he knows about Jeffrey Epstein. 118 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: It is wild that the GOP reps really didn't show 119 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: up for the Lex Weckner stuff, but they showed up 120 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: in a big way for Clinton. And this was really 121 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: the this is the big game hunting that is going 122 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 3: on around Epstein. And so what you mentioned seems very 123 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: consistent with like the fact that Dems they want Trump, 124 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: they want Lutnick, maybe to a lesser extent, they want 125 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: some recognizable names to show up on their wall. 126 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean it's performative. It is political theater, 127 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: as the Democrats were charging. And it's so weird. I mean, Mark, 128 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: when you get both sides of the political spectrum and 129 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: support of let's get to the bottom of the Epstein drama. 130 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: Because the right wants to embarrass the left and the 131 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: left wants to embarrass the right. That's a juggernaut. I mean, 132 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: that's going forward. But I mean let's face that this. 133 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean, how long is this is this story going 134 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: to be on the books? It's been over a decade. 135 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 1: You'd think that if there was some really embarrassing stuff 136 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: about really big names, I would testimony, a video, something, 137 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't it have surfaced by now? And yet they say, oh, well, 138 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: we've only released two or three percent of the Epstein 139 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: document three percent after a decade. How can that be? 140 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: It's very weird. 141 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 3: It took literally an Act of Congress to get it released. 142 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: So on some level, it's that, you know, we just 143 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: got the big data dump and then there are there 144 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 3: are missing it suggested deletions and all of this that 145 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: are word to protect the president, and that they're victims' 146 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 3: names that were to have been protected that we're not. 147 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of a lot of smoke 148 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: around this, you know. 149 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think you've come up with a very 150 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: catchy new cliche. It took an active Congress. 151 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: You know, I'm I'm very good with catching new cliches. 152 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: So until next time you go with that one, I'll 153 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: have another one for next time. 154 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: I really appreciate you winging in. 155 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: And we also, you know, we kind of dumped the 156 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: Carvallo thing on you because it was a breaking story 157 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: and I appreciate you jumping in on that. 158 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: So good to talk to you right. 159 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: I was getting I was getting slop sweat market. 160 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: Okay, Royal Oaks. Thanks always. Good talking to you, my friend. 161 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: Until next time. Yeah, we'll talk again. It's the John 162 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: Cobalt Show. We're KFI AM six forty live everywhere. See 163 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: how he was he was cool with a deva, Yeah 164 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: he was, he was cool. 165 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 5: It all worked out, It. 166 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: All worked out in the end. It's a Hollywood ending. 167 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 168 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six. 169 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: Forty kf I AM six forty. We're live everywhere on 170 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app. I don't know if you saw the 171 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: showdown that is going going off between Pete Hegseth, who 172 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: runs the Pentagon, you know, runs the Defense Department, and 173 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: the AI people at Anthropic. Essentially, the AI people have 174 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: huge contracts with the government, the Anthropic people having two 175 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: hundred million dollar contracts right now, and the Pentagon wants 176 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: them to drop certain regulations on the use of the AI. 177 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: They want AI right now at AI is prohibited in 178 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: this relationship with the Pentagon from surveillance and surveillance of 179 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: American citizens and also the what they call sort of 180 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: autonomous I think is the word they use, the autonomous 181 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: weapon systems, so the weapon systems that could operate just 182 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: on AI without a human being involved. Now, apparently this 183 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: negotiation and back and forth didn't go well. This is 184 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: a again Anthropic, they are the AI company. They are 185 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,239 Speaker 3: way up in the Pentagon's business, meaning that this contract 186 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: puts them, the existing contract into all sorts of defense 187 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: department subdepartments, if you want to think of it that way. 188 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 3: And so from what I understand, like backing out of 189 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: your relationship with Anthropic if you're the Pentagon is really hard. 190 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: But that brings me to the point that's what's going 191 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: to happen, because the Pentagon said, no, we want all 192 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: the regulations that are associated with AI and the independence 193 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: of AI to be removed. So, in other words, if 194 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 3: we're using AI on the battlefield or elsewhere, and AI 195 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: decides that there should be a launch of a missile 196 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: or other piece of weaponry, we want the AI to 197 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: be able to make that decision, should at least have 198 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: that freedom. Now they're also saying we're not going to 199 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: use that freedom. We're not going to do that, but 200 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: we don't want a restriction on the ability to do that. 201 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: We're not going to do anything that's against the law, 202 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: and we're not going to do anything when it comes 203 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: to surveilling American citizens or having these systems AI systems 204 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: machine systems launch without a human involved. That's what the 205 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: Pentagon's saying, We're not going to do that, but still 206 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: we don't want you to have in the contract that 207 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: we can't do that, which is just a little bit 208 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: odd because if you're not going to do it anyway, 209 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: why are you so insistent on that being removed from 210 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 3: the contract. So this is a real heavy duty dispute. 211 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 3: In fact, it was so heavy duty that Hegseth said, 212 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: here's what's going to happen. You're going to remove these 213 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: restrictions on our ability to do these things, or we're 214 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: going to drop you from government contracts with the Defense Department. 215 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: That's why I was mentioning, they're way up with the 216 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: Defense Department. Many many deals and many of the tentacles 217 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: of AI through this company are involved in the Pentagon contract. 218 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: So the idea that heg Seth and the Defense Department 219 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: people that are saying, we're going to drop you. That's 220 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: a big threat. Then they said, and we're going to 221 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: invoke a piece of legislation that will allow us to 222 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: force you to give us these abilities that we want. 223 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: So you can either do it the easy way or 224 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: you can do it the hard way. Now, the AI 225 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: company Andthropic is saying, look, these are company policies. We're 226 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 3: not bringing these policies to you specifically US Government, US Pentagon. 227 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: But the Pentagon is saying, we don't want to be 228 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: constrained by any of your company policies. We want full 229 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: tactical operas and not to be in any way limited 230 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: by your end user agreement. You know the terms and 231 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 3: conditions that apply. But it looks like the back and 232 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 3: forth broke down, and now the Trump administration is ordering 233 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: military contracts and federal agencies to cease with Anthropic. It's 234 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 3: a big, big story, and the use of AI at 235 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: the Defense Department is a big story too. The use 236 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: of AI in many different ways with US government contracts 237 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: is a huge story. 238 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 4: As you're aware. 239 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 3: Palateer, which is a big company run by Peter Thiel 240 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 3: in very tight with JD Vans for example, and also 241 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: this existing government. It is all about being used by 242 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: ICE in government contracts with the Custom and Border Patrol 243 00:12:54,800 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: people and ICE and immigration authorities. Palaentteer is designed and 244 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: specifically to track people, and the critics of this would 245 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 3: say it's way too dangerous. You've got Americans essentially being 246 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: exposed to tracking in ways that they just shouldn't be 247 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: and are illegal, and you have Palanteer with an oversized 248 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: role in this government's policies. So this is all going on. 249 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: But the breaking news of today is that the Trump 250 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: administration is ordering federal agencies and contractors that work with 251 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: the military to cease business with Nthropic after the company 252 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: refused to allow the Pentagon to use its artificial intelligence 253 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 3: technology without the restrictions I described. Government agencies, including the Pentagon, 254 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: have six months to phase out use of Entthropics products. 255 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: This is something that Trump has said to basically back 256 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 3: up Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. And now they're saying, we 257 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: Anthropic is a supply chain, it's a national security threat. 258 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: But you know just what fifteen hours ago they were 259 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: trying to make this deal with Anthropic so we know 260 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: that that's not really true. But that's what this is 261 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: all about. This has been a week long showdown between 262 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: this leading AI company and the government, and this will 263 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: change quickly. How AI is used at the Pentagon. They 264 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: use this Claud system, that's what it's called Claud. And this, 265 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: as I say, relationship between Anthropic and the American government 266 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: is really a significant one. So I would say two things. One, 267 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: the government is going to find other AI partners who 268 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: will let them do what they want. And number two, 269 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: Anthropic with their Claud technology, they may be in trouble 270 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: because a lot of their success comes from contracts that 271 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: are associated with the Pentagon. I mean it's big, big 272 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: contracts that are not even directly with the Pentagon. They're 273 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: with defense contractors who use the technology and they have 274 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: deals with the Pentagon. So this idea somehow that you 275 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: could stand down with the US government, I mean, mad respect, 276 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: I guess for standing by the precepts of what you said. Look, 277 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: we're not going to let our technology be used to 278 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 3: surveil Americans and we're not going to let our technology 279 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: be used to fire weaponry without humans involved. But it 280 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: may cost you your company at the end. 281 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 4: Of all of this. 282 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: So that's the latest on the Department of Defense and 283 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: this major announcement from the President of the United States 284 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: and the Defense Secretary ordering the military and federal agencies 285 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: to cease business with Anthropic. It's the co Belt Show. 286 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: Thompson sitting in for John KFI A M six forty. 287 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: We're live everywhere on the iHeart Radio app. 288 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 289 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 6: six forty. 290 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: Kf I AM six forty. We're love everywhere in the 291 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: iHeart Radio app. And I was just talking to remark 292 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: about the the power of the iHeart Radio app. It's crazy. 293 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: It's everywhere. You can listen all over the world on 294 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: that thing. Man, you don't have it, get it. 295 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 4: You know? The TSA workers are still working. 296 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: Now without a without a check, haven't been paid now 297 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: in a while, right, Are they going to. 298 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 5: Get huge bonuses for working without Oh? 299 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm sure they're huge bonuses coming. 300 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 4: No. 301 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: In fact, they're now talking about doing what anybody what 302 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: did they do the last time they left? Yep, they 303 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: started calling out sick. 304 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 7: They had to r Were they driving for ubery? 305 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 5: You know, taking other jobs? 306 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: I mean people are you know, these aren't like, you know, 307 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: cush jobs. You know, you look at the TSA first, 308 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: and they're they're working shift to shift and they're likely 309 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 3: working check to check to pay for things. 310 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 5: But they're not air traffic controllers. 311 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: No they are not. 312 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 5: So I'm i mean not the TSA workers are not important. 313 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 5: I'm not saying that right. 314 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: But you're saying the people in the tower, yes, are 315 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: a little more of a priority. You look at the 316 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 3: tower first, is what you're saying, before you look to 317 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 3: see the conveyor belt and whether or not they're people manning. 318 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: It putting bombs in suitcase. 319 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: Airports security screeners across the United States getting a fraction 320 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: of their usual pay. It's a partial government shutdown, as 321 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: you know. And now there is more talk that they 322 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: will call in sick to do what Debra's talking about, 323 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: to take second jobs or even quit. It's not the 324 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: gravy train it used to be, Debrah, No, no, no. 325 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: Working for the government now is sort of a high 326 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: wire act. They're going to be open, they're going to 327 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: be closed, They're going to be angry with you, They're 328 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: going to give you your check or not. February was 329 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: it thirteenth. That's where this whole thing started. On the thirteenth, 330 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: where they couldn't reach a deal on immigration enforcement reforms. 331 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: Democrats wanted those reforms, and they were ready to make 332 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 3: the point by shutting down funding for the US Department 333 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: of Homeland Security. Now, you know, we've talked about this, 334 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: I think on this radio station and beyond that, ICE, 335 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 3: which is probably I would say, you know, head of 336 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: the parade of controversy when it comes to DHS money, 337 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: they have plenty of money. I mean they have more 338 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: money than the FBI, So ICE is plenty of money. 339 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 3: But the idea was I think on the part of 340 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: the Democrats to sort of send the message even though 341 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: they knew that the thing that was most troubling, or 342 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 3: at least a photo finished for most troubling, the way 343 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: the ICE agents were handling various business. They knew they 344 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 3: couldn't affect that, but they wanted to make the point anyway. 345 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: They on February thirteenth they held up funding for DHS 346 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 3: and that includes TSA. So I don't think they're making 347 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 3: any major breakthroughs on this, and if this drags on longer, 348 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 3: they're going to be a lot of absences, departures, There'll 349 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: be bottlenecked security lines. There's going to be a lot 350 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: of blowback. I mean, I think right now it's sort 351 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: of the water slowly rising. But people are going to. 352 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 5: Get spring break. 353 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: Oh that's right, spring break, a lot more travel, Yeah, 354 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 3: spring travel coming. The national vice president of District three 355 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: of the American Federation of Government Employees representing TSA workers 356 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: said this, people are going to get discouraged a lot 357 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 3: quicker this time. People are going to look for other things. 358 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 3: They're expecting more resignations. A lot of these people are 359 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: repaying debts that they incurred during the last shutdown. So 360 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: the top official at the TSA told Congress this month, 361 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: at around eleven hundred TSA security officers left the TSA 362 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: in October in November, a more than twenty five percent 363 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: increase from the same time period in twenty twenty four. 364 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 3: So you have, in essence, a bleeding off of a 365 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 3: lot of people who are already working at TSA. Here's 366 00:20:53,440 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 3: a quote from the union official. I'm sorry, this is 367 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: the government official, not the union official. This is the 368 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: top official at the TSA. We heard reports of officers 369 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: sleeping in their cars at airports to save money on gas, 370 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 3: selling their blood and plasma, and taking on second jobs 371 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: to make ends meet. The TSA officer at Harry Reid 372 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: International Airport that's in Las Vegas. They said that the 373 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 3: back to back shutdowns are making them reconsider the future 374 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: of their nine year career at the agency. Quote, I 375 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 3: want to keep this job, at least for the medical benefits, 376 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 3: but sometimes I think I'd be better off to abandon 377 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: ship and reinvest myself elsewhere. That person's thirty four years old. 378 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: The airline CEOs are meeting with Christy Nome to talk 379 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 3: about the shutdown and the effect on TSA. Airlines have 380 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: raised concern about this suspension of the Global Entry program 381 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 3: wasn't affected by the twenty twenty five shutdown, but now 382 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: it may be threatened during this shutdown. Jackie Rosen from Nevada, 383 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: she's the senator there, said in a letter to Christy Nome, 384 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 3: the government is using that program, the DHS Customs and 385 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: Immigration Clearance associated with Global Entry, as political leverage and 386 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: to create uncertainty. So I'd say two things you walk 387 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: away with a These TSA people are trying to make 388 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 3: ends meet. They're not living large on TSA money. And 389 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 3: for the second time in four months, they have to 390 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: find a way to make ends meet without pay, and 391 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: there's no sign that this thing is going to provide 392 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 3: relief anytime soon. This thing of government looks to be 393 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 3: keeping this agency closed. So now they're calling in sick, 394 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 3: they're taking odd jobs, they're paying bills with all those 395 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 3: ways that we mentioned, selling plasma and the rest. They're 396 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: looking at alternatives. The government jobs used to be the 397 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: most stable jobs in America, and now it's like working 398 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: in media. Yeah, my god. One day you're on top 399 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: of the world checking somebody's luggage, and the next day 400 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 3: you haven't been paid for two months. So watch for 401 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: that if you're traveling. Increasingly, they're going to be fewer 402 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 3: and fewer of these TSA employees. They're calling in sick, 403 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 3: and they're leaving the job completely. It's the John Coblt Show. 404 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: Mark Thompson sitting in for John KFI AM six forty 405 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 406 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 407 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 6: six forty. 408 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 3: Mark Thompson's sitting in for John Cobelt. We got all 409 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: the co Belt crew here, you know, Debra Eric Angel 410 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 3: Rock and Roll Ray. But I am noting that it's 411 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: a pretty busy Friday. We've had the breaking news around 412 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: Carvallo and the paid leave that's been forced during that investigation, 413 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: but also the imminent I know what you call it, 414 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 3: imminent or the threatened strike of Iran they're saying now. 415 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: I mean, the breaking detail I think of the last 416 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: couple of hours is that they are saying to US 417 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 3: embassy personnel in Jerusalem that they may leave Israel, and 418 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 3: they've warned them that if they want to leave, they 419 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 3: should do it immediately. That would seem to suggest there'll 420 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 3: be some military action soon. That came from Mike Huckabee, 421 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 3: who's the ambassador there, in an email. Those wishing to 422 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: leave quotes should do so today in capitol letters. So 423 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: we're watching that story. And then people in Mexico, as 424 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: you're well aware, are victims of cartel violence from the 425 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: standpoint even of travel plans being interrupted. 426 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 4: It was I was surprised. 427 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: It was with some surprise that I saw that this 428 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: Elmentcho guy, who was the lead guy. I guess he's 429 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: the Apex predator of drug lords in Mexico. 430 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 4: Do you know where he's. 431 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: Starting anybody before he became a big drug kingpin in Mexico, 432 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: in the drug kingpin and in Mexico before he had 433 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 3: a fifteen million dollar. 434 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 4: Bounty on his head. 435 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 5: Was it in California? 436 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 3: Yes, Deborah gets points California, San Francisco, California. It's crazy 437 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 3: he was picked up. He was like a small time 438 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: hood arrested in San Francisco. I mean, this infamous guy 439 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: was picked up. I think it was for low grade 440 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 3: drug charges initially, and then he moved up. He had 441 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 3: a meth charge I think in his past, and cocaine 442 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: like a weapons charge. All of this what he was 443 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 3: just a teenager in San Francisco, and then he went 444 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: south of the border and really began lighting things up. 445 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 3: It's remarkable that he was able to cobble together what 446 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 3: was this powerful drug cartel. He did it through all 447 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: of these different relationships, and now you have a proliferation 448 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 3: of weapons, proliferation of proliferation of all of these drug 449 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 3: runners in Mexico, and now they are scattered. The coherence 450 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 3: that that guy brought to things, meaning it was his 451 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: deal that has been split apart. And so I guess 452 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: there's a real question as to what's going to happen. 453 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 3: In other words, will cartel violence, if you want to 454 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 3: think of it this way, now just spread throughout Mexico 455 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 3: or will the vacuum be taken by someone else? The 456 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: question has been asking. I mean've been asked, who is 457 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: going to be the next elementcho, you know, and apparently, 458 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a multi billion dollar cartel and 459 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: it's very possible that the next generation of cartel leaders 460 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 3: is in place. This could be an intense power struggle, 461 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 3: and while the power struggle is going on, you may 462 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: have a real threat. And they're talking about how it 463 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: might affect World Cup, it may affect tourism. Mexico is 464 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: a much different place when you start detaining tourist vehicles, 465 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 3: telling people to get off buses, blowing up cars. So 466 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: this is a real threat south of the border to 467 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: life in Mexico and the economy of Mexico. One scenario 468 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 3: actually brings into the world of the cartels someone from 469 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: this country who again goes south and takes over so 470 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: many of these lieutenants, if you want to think of 471 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: it that way, who are now running these Balkanized cartels. 472 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: They're all broken up pretty wild, but certainly will be 473 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,479 Speaker 3: something to watch in Mexico, and I'd say, if you're 474 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: planning travel there, I would research carefully where you're going 475 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 3: and exactly how it might be affected. Savannah Guthrie is 476 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: saying she's going to be back on the air. Her mother, 477 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: Nancy Guthrie, still missing. No breaks in that case. We 478 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: talked to Alex Stone earlier in the show. This eighty 479 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 3: four year old woman taken on February first, Now Savannah 480 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: Guthrie is offering a one million dollar reward for her 481 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: safe return. There have been over fifteen hundred tips, no 482 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 3: DNA matches, and even though investigators have physical evidence including 483 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: blood and video of this masked man, and they've recovered gloves, 484 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 3: there is no positive hit. And again Savannah Guthrie and 485 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 3: just the high profile nature of the entire investigation, you'd 486 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: think would do two things. A bring more law enforcement 487 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: as sets in. You'd think that every possible break that 488 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 3: you could get from the standpoint of focus, from the 489 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: standpoint of lab work, from the standpoint of detective work, 490 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 3: it would all be given and amplified. In this Guthrie case, 491 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: simply because of Savannah Guthrie. 492 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 7: In President Trump call her up on the phone, or 493 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 7: I maybe they even met face to face, I'm not 494 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 7: sure and said, look, were at your the FBI's at 495 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 7: your disposal pretty much. 496 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, anything you need and they still have the eight 497 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 3: hundred line, eight hundred call FBI. They offered the reward 498 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 3: the million dollars, there are other rewards associated with it 499 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 3: and nothing. Now, the other thing I was going to 500 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: say is that it, on the one hand, amplifies the 501 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 3: case and so you get all of those assets that 502 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 3: Debra is talking about from the President on down. But 503 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: the other thing it does is it puts a lot 504 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 3: of heat on the case. So to whatever extent it 505 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 3: was really a kidnapping, and I don't know that it was. 506 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: I mean, this might have just been a brutal a 507 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 3: hack in some way. I mean, I think you true 508 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: crime officionados. I know there are a lot of you 509 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 3: out there probably have this all, you know, laid out 510 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: on a corkboard with yarn. But the reality is that 511 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 3: if it was a kidnapping, there's so much heat now 512 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 3: that I don't see how you could even effectively execute 513 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 3: the the exchange. You know, it would be crypto, a 514 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: crypto transfer, and then you drop off this eighty four 515 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 3: year old in an empty parking lot somewhere. 516 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how it would happen. There 517 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 4: is so much. 518 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 3: Scrutiny that I think it would just it would spook 519 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: those involved. And so that's the other side of it 520 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 3: being a high profile case. It's sort of easier just 521 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 3: to drop it if you're the guys involved in this. 522 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 3: Either way, it's awfully sad, and she's saying now in 523 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: ways that would indicate she's begun to accept the grim 524 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 3: reality that she may go back to work and hope 525 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: that her mother is, you know, dancing above in the 526 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: in the life beyond tough spot for sure. When we 527 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 3: come back. What's happening when we come back, Eric, And 528 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: then we have don't we have a guest? Oh five 529 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: point thirty is the is Schneider from Variety. Oh that's great, Okay, 530 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: the next hour we'll talk about this huge merger. It 531 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: is big, but Schneider will be here the next hour, 532 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 3: the editor of Variety. So we'll talk about Paramount Warner Brothers, 533 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 3: how that affects the landscape of studios and the town 534 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: that we live in. We are KFI AM six forty 535 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app you've. 536 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: Been listening to the John Cobelt Show podcast. 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