1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Number two of What Goes Live. We're presented by Collod 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: of Health. Coming here from our home as we always do. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Now when joining us live on the line right now. 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: He ESPN's NFL college draft analyst mel kiper Junior. He's 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: been with ESPN since nineteen eighty four. He's a host 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: of their first draft podcast. How about mel kiper Jenner 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: if he's Team Task. You're up here in Buffalo. Thanks 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: coming on with us today, John Steve. Great to be 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: with you. Guys. Hey, you get a draft two weeks 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: ago without your buddy Todd McShay hit by the coronavirus himself. 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: How is he doing and how much did you miss 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: him during the broadcast that weekend? Yeah, thankfully doing a 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: little better. I mean Todd had prepared as thoroughly as 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: as ever and was ready to go. And I had 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: spoken to him, you know, that Saturday before the draft, 16 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: and he was making a little bit of progress. But 17 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: with this virus, as you know, you feel good and 18 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: you think you're coming back then to hit you again. 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: So I think that's what happened with Todd. But you know, 20 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: it's just a shame when you do all that work. 21 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: But hey, as long as he's healthy. He's getting healthy. 22 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: That's all you care about. And you get through it. 23 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: And it was a challenging draft for everybody just because 24 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: of you know, just staring at a camera and not 25 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: having that interaction on a set. But got through it. 26 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: The NFL got through it with no glitches and no issues. 27 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: And that's for that one year where we had a 28 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, a lot more important things going on in 29 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: this world than than preparing for a draft. It did 30 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: come off without any glitches. Yeah, for as much as 31 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: you guys worked hard at it and had so much 32 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: to do, this was an added burden although you did 33 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: it from home. Uh, there's still a lot going on. 34 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: But it seemed, as you mentioned, this draft broadcast went 35 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: really smoothly. Was there anything that you guys at the 36 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: networks and the broadcast partners learned that you might take 37 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: going forward. That's a good question. I think, you know, 38 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 1: just the way you interact. You know, we were forced 39 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: to do things with using names, which I always tend 40 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: to do when I'm talking anyway, Todd Todd Tide came 41 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: about because he told Frank CALLI and always doesn't my name. 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: Weren't anybody so Frank exaggerated. That made the Todd Todd 43 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: Todd thing. So I always tend to do that anyway. 44 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: But when you know, and you know this Steve as 45 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: well as anybody, when you're told, okay, throw it to 46 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: somebody while you're talking, you get to the end. Sometimes 47 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: you forget because you're so wrapped up in what you're saying. 48 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes you say a little too early and they don't 49 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: pick up. So the communication when you're at a set, 50 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: eye contact and josh, everything that you do to let 51 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: somebody know, hey, I want to follow up. I have 52 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: a different opinion, you know, I want to argue this 53 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: point a little strong or whatever it may be. We 54 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: couldn't do that, so even Daniel Jeremiasa, it was kind 55 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: of like doing little speeches, many speeches. That's what we 56 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: all kind of did. So it was totally different. But hey, 57 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: for one year, hopefully that's the only year you have 58 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: to do this. It was. It was something that worked, okay, 59 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: but it's not the preferable situation because obviously being at 60 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: a set allows you opportunities to do things more conversationally 61 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: than we were allowed to do with mel kayper Junior, 62 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: ESPN's NFL Draft extra heyl, did you see or do 63 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: you suspect and any picks were made because not because 64 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: but with teams not fully knowing what they were getting into, 65 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: was that where teams less willing to take risks. Do 66 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: you think based on the lack of pre draft visits 67 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: the thirty visits they have, did you see any evidence 68 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: in that? Yeah? I did. I think two things happened. 69 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: I think the combined workout guys who didn't run well 70 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: examples Xavier McKinney for six, three first round caliber player 71 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: goes in the second round to the giants Cambler and Danceler. 72 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: Cameron Danceler was a first round caliber corner round four 73 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: to six, four drops down the board, third round. So 74 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: I think the non combine guys as well that normally 75 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: had pro days, the turn heads and get attention, didn't 76 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: have that opportunity, so they were impacted by the guy 77 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: like Luke Barkup had a great year at San Diego, 78 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: stay the corner, you know, but he didn't get them 79 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: invited to the Combine surprisingly and the pro day didn't happen. 80 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, there's Luke Barkus signing as 81 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: an undrafted free ag instead of being a fifth round pick. 82 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: Things like that happened. In terms of injuries, Jalen Johnson 83 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: with the shoulder issue didn't get drafted to Normally he 84 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: probably would have been a late one. Other corners got 85 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: forced in there that may have been a little healthier. 86 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: So again, I think the injured guys got hit a 87 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: little hard. J f and Esa didn't run well at 88 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: the pro day. He ends up being the second round pick. 89 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: A lot of people thought first round going into the 90 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: whole draft process. I did as well, So I think 91 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: those kind of guys got hurt by it more than anybody. 92 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: And then of course the injured players as well with 93 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: not having the medical rechecks. Well, the guys that were taken, 94 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: what were your biggest takeaways? You know, I think teams 95 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: more than when you go back. I gave a lot 96 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: of bees, and you know a couple of ones that 97 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: the head scratcher was probably green Bay. The biggest head 98 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: scratcher was green Bay not taking a receiver when you 99 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: had the Eagles take three and you saw what happy 100 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: even Buffalo to bringing Stefan Diggs, yet they still draft 101 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: two receivers. The Raiders drafted three. Minnesota drafted to call. 102 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: Everybody was drafted and taking advantage of the strength. And 103 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: here's the team with the major need being wide receiver. 104 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: You think Raron Rodgers there apparent you don't get him 105 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: a receivers cept the tight end. So again, I think 106 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: that was the big surprise there. But everybody else, I mean, 107 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: the overall, I think they solidified needs. They did pretty well. 108 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: We'll see how it all comes together. Without obviously having 109 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: this benefit of getting ready for the season in a 110 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: normal way. How much impact if we do have a 111 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: season with type of season, how much is this impacting 112 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: these rookies ability to be contributors their first year? Hey man, 113 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: Before we dig into the Bills draft, one more overview 114 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: question about the twenty twenty NFL Draft. Do you think 115 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: years from now people will look back on the twenty 116 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: twenty draft and say that was a receiver draft. They 117 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: talked pre draft about all the good receivers first round 118 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: cabab or receivers lasting into the third. Are we going 119 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: to look back on that and say that was where 120 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: all these good receivers came from that year? You would think, 121 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: and I say that, you would think depending upon whether 122 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: a kJ Hamler develops him with Denver into a consistent player, 123 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: whether a Chase Claypool in Pittsburgh, you know, eliminates the drops. 124 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: There are some things that have to come together. How 125 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: quickly the Bailer receiver Denzel mimbs with the jetse merges 126 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: in terms of route running and being precise and discipline 127 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 1: which at Baylor obviously run around do different things without 128 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: the routree. So I think all these receivers are something 129 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: that with maybe four or five of the ones that 130 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: went in the first three rounds, that they have to 131 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: come together with and really improve upon. But I think 132 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: you're right. I think maybe the guys that we thought 133 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: were the safest already get it should be that Jerry 134 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: Judy should be a great player. And the question, Denver rugs, 135 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: it's with the Raiders. You think about what you know 136 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: a guy like Justin Jefferson should be with Minnesota. All 137 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: those guys should do very well. But guys I mentioned 138 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: that maybe have a question or concerned. If they answer 139 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: that positively, then we will look back at this draft 140 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: as the year of the wide receiver. The Bills went 141 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: into this draft thinking they had a pretty solid roster anyway, 142 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: and they were looking for some depth and some guys 143 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: that could contribute, maybe not in major ways, but certainly consistently. 144 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: That got Zack Moss in the third round, same place 145 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: they drafted Devin Singletary the year before. Two third round 146 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: running backs for the Buffalo Bills that look to be 147 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: the one two punch for them. How do you see 148 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: Zach Moss Devin Singletary working together. I love that pick 149 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: and it's for the same reason. I think, to get 150 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: a productive guy has some versatility, obviously played a lot 151 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: of football. You want guys that come in that can 152 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: handle blitz, pick up and handle all the things you need. 153 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: I think in the third round at the eighty sixth 154 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: pick the guy did Most people in leg that I 155 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: spoke to before the draft thought he would be a 156 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: mid to late second round pick. To get in where 157 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: they did. Devin had a great year, gave him a 158 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: real spark, was a key element for that playoff run 159 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: that the Bills had. So yeah, I think getting into 160 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: two receivers with size will help Josh. I mean that 161 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: that receiving cornerw with John Brown, Diggs and Beasley. Then 162 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: you add in and you go Isaiah McKenzie may play. 163 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: All these different guys and the two young kids. Uh, 164 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: then you get open even in the secondary if Dane 165 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: Jackson and who had I thought a pretty good year 166 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: overall a pit and then uh in Epanessa as you 167 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: can kick inside, he's got that ability to play over 168 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: the center guard. He can be outside inside threat. Um, 169 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: you know, with that defensive front the way it is 170 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: right now, and after getting Oliver the last year, so 171 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: I thought they did fine. Factor Stefan Diggs into this 172 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: whole thing because you have to put him in as 173 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: part of this draft, and all of a sudden, this 174 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: is a pretty good d look at this roster. Um. Yeah, 175 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: and I love Josh, you know I feel about Allen Um. 176 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: I gotta believe that this is gonna be a tough 177 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: team to handle. This Bills team won paper, looks like 178 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: a twelve win team to me. Okayper Junior from ESPN 179 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: Live on the Line with the smell on the Bills, 180 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: and you mentioned Zach Moss. You name him as an 181 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: instant impact player. You think the Bills can use him 182 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: in goal line situations pretty efectively. It needs to begin 183 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: with that, I do, and I think that's the two 184 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: positions that you could immediate return normally. Normally it's never perfect, 185 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: but most nine out of ten, eight out of ten 186 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: times running backs give them the ball and let them go. 187 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: It's the only position where you can be as good 188 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: as a rookie as you will begin year four, year five. 189 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: It's not better as a rookie as long as you 190 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: can block. If you can't, but if you can handle that, 191 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna get on the field. You can catch, you 192 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: can run, you don't fumble, and you block. That will 193 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: get you on the field, and you'll be over able 194 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: to go and go and go. And we saw it 195 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: with Devin if he then, you know he had the 196 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: little issue early on with the minor injury, came back 197 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: from and look how he sparked that team, and he'd 198 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: fit right in. He'd look like a rookie. At any 199 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: point in the season. He did not look like a rookie. 200 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: So and then same thing with a lot of these 201 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: running back so I think that will be a ken. Also, 202 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: the pass rushers, they step in normally and do a 203 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: job right away. They put up secularly at that Max 204 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: Crosby had ten sacks, Josh Allen and Jackson had ten 205 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: and a half sacks. All these different guys that there 206 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: were sack guys coming out, got the sack numbers right away, 207 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: just pin your ears back and go after after the quarterback. 208 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: So those are the two spots, guys where you normally 209 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: expect rookies to produced, and even this year, you would 210 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: expect even more when it's gonna be tough for other 211 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: positions who need time. If we don't have the training camp, 212 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: we don't have the preseason games, we don't have to 213 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: build up to the season then, and not the reps 214 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: that you need, then all of a sudden, it may 215 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: be more important to get the production out of those 216 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: two positions because you may not be getting it out 217 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: of the other guys. This Bills draft, you mentioned the 218 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: Green Bay Draft being kind of a head scratcher taking 219 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: Jordan Love. The Bills took a quarterback in Jake From. 220 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: How do you see him fitting in? The Bills were 221 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: in a position where they felt like they had enough 222 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: players and enough and a strong enough roster just to 223 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: take the best player available, and Jake From they took him. 224 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: And what do you think about that that pick given 225 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: the fact that they think they found their their franchise 226 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: quarterback already. Yeah, I think in terms of a backup. 227 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: I think that's what you're looking at. And the guy 228 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: that has the mindset for it, he's a smart kid, 229 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: great leader. Hitcat said he knows Josh Allen's the franchise 230 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: and he'll come in, they'll assist. Josh will see things. 231 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: He said. You say he's gonna be an extension of 232 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: your offensive coordinator in your quarterback. That's what he's gonna be. 233 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: And obviously if Josh gets hurt and Josh Kenn played 234 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: a little reckless, that's the two areas that Josh has 235 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: to improve one, and you know he will and he 236 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: see he knows what he needs to work. One. He 237 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: made huge strides last year from the rookie year to 238 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: a second year. If he makes those same strides in 239 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: year two to year three, good luck trying to deal 240 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: with him. But the deep ball accuracy, just don't airmail it. 241 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: Just give your guy a chance because you can get 242 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: you draw flags. When they come back and they stop, 243 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: the cornerback loses sight, he runs into all of a sudden, 244 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: you got an easy fifty. You know he make a play, 245 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: You got a fifty yard completion. When you airmail it, 246 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: give your team no shot you got no shot as 247 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: a penalty. So Josh will see that and learn from that. 248 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: And I'm sure they're they're coaching him up on that 249 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: and then being reckless and maybe turn it over, subjecting 250 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: your body to some hits, not getting down quick enough. 251 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: All those things will will he'll work one, but certainly 252 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: having from available for that reason will help. And for Jake, 253 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: the thing that pushed him to the fifth was just 254 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: the arm strength and showed up at the combine in 255 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: games when his timing and his accuracy was where it 256 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: needed to be because he knew then two years ago 257 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: he had all those receivers, he was really good. He 258 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: lost all those receivers this year and his numbers went 259 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: down because he doesn't have that arm. So I think 260 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: getting us a guy in a lot of people thought 261 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: it was a second round pick in the fifth round. 262 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: To be a guy one play away from me, be 263 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: beating your guy. You know he's gonna go back. Remember 264 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: Don Show was passing, and I knew I having at 265 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: no coach got the no Coach Show a little bit. 266 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: And I remember in nineteen seventy two, that's seventeen no season, 267 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: Bob Greasy got hurt. Earl Morrel came in and Earl 268 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: Marl got then the Earl Morrall struggled. Then Greasy came 269 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: back and won. So again they having two quarterbacks. There's 270 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: a solid Folds meant to the Eagles in that Super Bowl. 271 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: So having a Jake from behind Josh Allen, I thought 272 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: that was a heck of a pick. Yes, me and 273 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: the NFL draft analyst Mel Kayper Junior around the line 274 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: one is, Hey, man, I want to talk to You've 275 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: already started to look at the twenty twenty one draft 276 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: before we get to that. You've been doing this thirty six, 277 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: thirty seven years. In general, our teams better now at 278 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: drafting and they were when you started. I mean, there's 279 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: so much more information involved, so much more video involved. Now, 280 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: there's so much more science involved. I wonder you think 281 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: in general teams are better at the draft now and 282 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: they were when you got started at this in mid eighties. No, 283 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: I don't, and I think they were with the differences 284 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: the game. The game has changed so much where now 285 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: you can have a guy maybe not emerges receiving, you're 286 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: playing four or five receivers, You're getting multiple backs involved, 287 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: You're getting multiple dB offensive backs. Involved. You're getting all 288 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: these everybody, multi situated guys rotating in pestra. You're getting everybody, 289 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: so the bus factor is not what it was before me. 290 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: And we're back in art there. You got a tight end, 291 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: you had two wide receivers, you got a full back, 292 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: yet a running back. You know, if you didn't make that, 293 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: if you didn't make a move to get that starting job, 294 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: you were considered a bust, you know, as a first 295 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: round or second round. And now you're getting all these 296 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: guys on the field somehow, some way, they're getting on 297 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: the field just because of the nature of the game. 298 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: It's changed so dramatically from what it was. And when 299 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: I started in the nineteen seventy eight, I've been doing 300 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: it now forty two years, thirty to my thirty eighth 301 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: year coming up at ESPN, and it's changed dramatically. You 302 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: have to adjust to the times and the game now 303 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: is not even close to what it was. And it's like, 304 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: it's sick of trying to compare a quarterback from the 305 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: eighties though a quarterback now. You can't do it. The 306 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: numbers aren't. These numbers now are gonna blow away those 307 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: numbers from the ass because it's twenty five passes in 308 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: a game. It's twenty five pass in a quarter now, 309 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: So it's a different ball game entirely. Guys, as you know, Steve, 310 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: you've been around it long. You know you've seen it, 311 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: you know evolved. So I think now they're drafting the 312 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: same as they did, except now you see a little 313 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: bit more of a roster put together via the draft 314 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: because you're getting you're finding ways to incorporate these guys. 315 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: We're back then if they say you could very easily 316 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: be considered a bust if you were the fifth receiver 317 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: because you weren't getting on a field. Now you're getting 318 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: on a field and you're doing a lot of different 319 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: things in a reserve capacity that normally you wouldn't have 320 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: been able to do way back in the seventies and 321 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties. And the Bills have built through the 322 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: draft and also through some key free agents. They got 323 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: a lot of guys signed to one year contracts, prove 324 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: it deals, Brandon being Sean McDermott, have created a culture. 325 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: They're starting to rise through the ranks of the NFL. 326 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: They were in the playoffs two of the last three years. 327 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: You've said that you think they're the favorite to win 328 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: the AFC East. How strong is their roster and how 329 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: hard is it going to be for some of these 330 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: draft picks to act to get on the field. For 331 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: a team with a roster full of the guys that 332 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: the Bills have, I think it's gonna be. I think 333 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: Moss will have a great opportunity. Evanessa obviously rotating in. 334 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: The receivers will have a tough time because they already 335 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: have your John Brown, Diggs and Beasley. And you've got 336 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: guys that have already been proven entities behind it or 337 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: have contributed, I should say. And then you have the 338 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: second year guys. Singletary's going to the second year thoughts, 339 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: and Knox knows he's got to be more consistent. He 340 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: had a couple of drops of catchable balls last year. 341 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: So again, this roster is strong. This team. The thing 342 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: that impresses me about the Bills is their chemistry. I 343 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: don't think any team is the teammates are caring about 344 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: the other teammates. It's not individuals on this team. They're 345 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: all about the team being successful. And that's they got 346 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: great leadership in that locker room. This is a team 347 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: when you watch them. It's it's a together a football 348 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: team as I've seen in a while. And see, if 349 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: you've been around great teams, you got to have that. 350 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: And I see, whether it's Josh or they got a 351 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: lot of leaders. They got vocal leaders, they got quiet leaders, 352 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: they got everything going. You watch them here, they think 353 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: they care about one another. There he says, it's not 354 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: an into a bunch of individuals. So they got a mix. 355 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Brandon Bean's done a great job getting the 356 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: right mix of players and it led to a second 357 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: year quarterback taking a team to the playoffs, and they 358 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: had that game looked like they had that game one 359 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: had not been I thought for a couple a couple 360 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: of questionable non calls and he would have won that game. So, 361 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: even with the things that went a ry late. So 362 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: it's a team that's built for now, it's built for 363 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: the future. And like I said, I'm excited to see 364 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: if Josh can take those steps that he'd made last 365 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: year to this year. And if he does, then he's 366 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: gonna be one of the best young quarterbacks in the NFL. 367 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: He already's close to that now, he's one of the best. 368 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: He will be one of the best quarterbacks in the 369 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: league by year three if he makes that jump up 370 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: you know this year in terms of deep ball accuracy 371 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: and just taking a little bit better care of the 372 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: football at times. Hey, now, what did you make in 373 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots draft, and in particular, what did you make 374 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: a Belichick's post draft admission. I guess that he might 375 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: have been taking a quarterback. It wasn't his plan to 376 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: go into it and not get a quarterback. Would you 377 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: make all that? I don't know what. I didn't get it. 378 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: He said, it didn't hit, it didn't fall right. Well, 379 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: you could have had Jacobisa in the fourth round. You 380 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: took three third round picks, and I get that. And 381 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: maybe he was waiting till the fifth and Josh Jacob 382 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: went in the fourth and then he was and From 383 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: he could have had in the sixty took one of 384 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: the in the fifth. Excuse me was a kicker. So 385 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: he took the kicker at one fifty nine. Okay, you 386 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: know From went at one sixty seven, so you take 387 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: the kicker over from. You made three third round picks 388 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: over Jacob Eison. So maybe they were wanted to wait 389 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: an extra round but didn't work. They could have had 390 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: Hurts in the second took the safety from Lenora Ryan, 391 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: So it just I guess he was waiting an extra round. 392 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: It didn't work out that way. So we'll see. I mean, 393 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: obviously Jared Stidham seems to be a guy that got 394 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in and we'll see. I said 395 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: taking care of the I say, going back to Josh 396 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: taking care of the football. I thought it was the running. 397 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: He did a great job cutting down on the interceptions, 398 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: his intersting. He just eliminated interceptions down and those final 399 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: eleven twelve games, whatever it was. So again, we'll Stidham 400 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: be that type of guy now will he'd be able 401 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: to do for that team that obviously has talent leftover? 402 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: This team isn't going to go away if Stidham can 403 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: manage the game properly. He's got the arm Uh, they 404 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: know him, he knows them now. I don't think that 405 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: drop off with with New England's gonna be dramatic. I 406 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: don't think they go from from the best to the worst. 407 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna still gonna be a team 408 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: you gotta be. You gotta figure out how to beat they. 409 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: These guys know how to win and Stidham, and it 410 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: seems like they have an awful lot of confidence him. 411 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: So for the Bills, Uh, you know, New England Miami 412 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: is gonna be building for the future. They aren't ready, jets. 413 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're ready yet, but you know 414 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: they've got some personnel and they got the right people 415 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: running the show there. I'll tell you what. Looking at 416 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in this division, it's gonna be a tremendously 417 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: competitive of four teams over the next X amount of 418 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: years with Tua, Josh and Darnald and now, whatever New 419 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: England decides to do, Stidham is the guide. He's a 420 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: young kid. He just came out of Auburn just a 421 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. So what a division quarterback wise, 422 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: this will end up being. Well, well, I hope you've 423 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: had a chance to catch your breath after this last 424 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: draft twenty twenty. Now, how long do you have before 425 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: you start grinding away on the twenty twenty one? What 426 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: are your early thoughts? Well, already started without what the 427 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: big board came out today, and that's the quarterbacks at 428 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: the top. Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields are one in 429 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: three and a kid out of North Dakota State Trade 430 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: Lance like another quarterback at fifteen, But it's gonna be 431 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: another great wide receiver group, John and Steve I got 432 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: six receivers in the top twenty five. Probably would have 433 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: had eight in the top thirty two, So that's a 434 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: lot of receivers. Again, it's gonna be a good year 435 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: for tight ends. I'm gonna be a good year for dbs. 436 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: The two corners weighed from Ohio State and sert ten 437 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: from Alabama are up there. High. Javan Howland, the safety 438 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: from Margin's got nine career interceptions over the last two years, 439 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: so there's a there's a lot of talent, but I 440 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: think wide receiver is gonna be the big talk early 441 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: on Two Alabama kids this year, Two Alabama kids in 442 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: the first round next year. Hey, now everybody knows Trevor 443 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: Lawrence and Clemson, but you really we're talking about the 444 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: North Daquota State quarterback three Lance on ESPN today. What 445 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: can you tell us about him? Yeah, he's got all 446 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: the physical and athletic skills you want. He had and 447 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: now it's one year. That's why it's a little conservative. 448 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: I put him in the middle of that twenty five. 449 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: You know, I said, I where can I should have 450 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: put him a round fifteen. So be conservative with that 451 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: because it's it's just one year. But the one year 452 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: was spectacular. I mean, twenty eight touchdowns, zero interceptions. And 453 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: now he's probably say, well, the level of competition, I 454 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: don't care who you're playing against. To do that is 455 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: amazing for a red shirt freshman, which is what he 456 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: was now will be a third year sophomore. He rushed 457 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: for a ton of yards, with eleven hundred yards. He 458 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: had a ton of rushing touchdowns. You'd watch him. I 459 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: watched him in three four games, and now the playoffs 460 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't quite as good there. It was good, not great, 461 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: but he was a great during the regular season. He 462 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: can throw anybody, make any any ball you'd even complete, 463 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: he can complete it. He has touched. He's a tremendous runner. 464 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: He's a smart kid. Shows good instincts on the field 465 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: in terms of when to move out of the pocket, 466 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: when to stay in, when to throw it away, all 467 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: the little things, the nuances. He has that already. So 468 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't see any reason why he can't with another year, 469 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: and you know, putting up those kind of numbers and 470 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: his skill set he's gonna be right there. He's not 471 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: gonna be as highly rate as Lawrence in fields, but 472 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: he'll be the third guy. Tanner Morgan from Minnesota I 473 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: liked as well, and he'll be interesting. How Jamie Newman 474 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: moving from Georgia to Wake Far How he does you 475 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: know in that one season with all that talent the 476 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: Georgia Bulldogs have. I gotta ask you one last thing, 477 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: and it's about this last draft. What one player in 478 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: this draft do you think is going to be the 479 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: guy from this draft? I mean this year. There may 480 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: be guys that develop and become great players in the 481 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: years to come. Like maybe Joe Burrow's not going to 482 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: be great this year, but he certainly has it on 483 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: the table to be a great quarterback. Who's going to 484 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: be the impact guy this year? Is it as easy 485 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: as just saying Chase Young? I would think, And that's 486 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: the pass rusher I think also Clyde Edwards Hilaire, whoever, whatever, 487 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: whoever the running back was that went to Kansas City 488 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: was going to have big numbers. And we know it 489 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: was a running back. Clyde Edwards Hilaire fit them. Talk 490 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: to some teams after the draft that had him as 491 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: the number one running back. All those running backs what 492 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: in the second round should do very well. But I 493 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: would think because of Andy Reid in Kansas City and 494 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: Mahomes at Clyde Edwards, hil Eric should be in position 495 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: if he stays healthy to be offensive rookie of the 496 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: Year and Chase Young with a pass rush ability he 497 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: has for a team that needs it. Opposite Sweat, who 498 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: they drafted in the first round last year. They need 499 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: Chase Young and that division with those quarterbacks with Wentz 500 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: and Dak and now it emerging Daniel Jones, they need 501 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: his pass So I would always go I always say 502 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: the rookie is a year for me. I always give 503 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: it to the pass rushers on defense and the running 504 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: backs on offense. Hey Man, thanks for this and thanks 505 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: for thirty six thirty seven years of prognosticating the draft 506 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: on ESPN. It's great work. We really appreciate it. Thank you, 507 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: John Steve. I appreciate time you need me, just call it. 508 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: Thanks God