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<v Speaker 1>All the stars in the universe are constantly exploding nuclear bombs.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a little frightening.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, go out there and warm your toes on the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the thermonuclear fire of a huge bomb that's

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<v Speaker 1>constantly exploding.

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<v Speaker 5>That sounds cozy. It's like a contain and continual explosion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you want to see a nuclear bomb go off,

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<v Speaker 1>Go outside and look at the sun. I mean not directly.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't hurt yourself. You just made this advice.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to retract that previous advice.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we'll ask them to edit it up. Hello, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>Jorge and I'm Daniel, and this is our show. Daniel

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<v Speaker 5>and Jorge explain the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain the entire universe, especially all the stars inside of it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed, Jorge, every time you introduce your our show,

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<v Speaker 1>you're about to say Horne and Dangel explain the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have to correct yourself and you're like, no.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, yeah, we're still bitter about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my real job, you know, is as a

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<v Speaker 1>particle to exists. And I have five thousand collaborators. And

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<v Speaker 1>when we write a paper, we put everybody's name on

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<v Speaker 1>the paper. And the policy has put everybody's name alphabetical

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<v Speaker 1>by last name, regardless of who contributed more or less

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Somebody decided they didn't want to have the argument,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just make it alphabetical. Uh huh. And what that

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<v Speaker 1>means that there's some grad student whos first author on

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<v Speaker 1>like every paper.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, it's like him or her at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's sort of make some famous and also sort

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<v Speaker 1>of infamous because people grumble about it.

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<v Speaker 5>No pressure, no pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right in the Glaring Spotlight. But you know, today's

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<v Speaker 1>episode actually relates to that, to Glaring Spotlights, because today

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about something very close to home. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how long the sun is going to live?

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<v Speaker 5>How long do we have before it burns out or

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<v Speaker 5>explodes or snuffs out?

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<v Speaker 1>How many more projects can Daniel and Jorge or Jorge

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<v Speaker 1>and Daniel do arguing about order until life on earth

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<v Speaker 1>is extinguished because the star is gone.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, do you have time to clean out your garage

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<v Speaker 5>or do that thing you've always wanted to do? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. So if you're currently procrastinating doing something you

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<v Speaker 1>should do, then you're actually going to learn something today

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<v Speaker 1>about how much time you have left to procrastinate?

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<v Speaker 5>Right yep? So yeah, let's jump in for We as

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<v Speaker 5>usual asked people on the street how long they thought

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<v Speaker 5>that the sun would keep burning, and so the question

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<v Speaker 5>is how long do you think the sun will keep burning?

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<v Speaker 1>Play along at home, think of your answer, and then

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<v Speaker 1>listen to these random on the street interviews. How long

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<v Speaker 1>do you think our sun is going to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>burn for?

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<v Speaker 5>How long?

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<v Speaker 1>I think a few billion years? I don't know millions, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not millions, sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>Probably a long time. I hope a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>So, like, doesn't this affect your plans? Come on, you

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<v Speaker 1>should know this.

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<v Speaker 5>All right? Well, I guess the first thing is that

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<v Speaker 5>nobody seemed really concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, nobody's rushing home to finish up something before

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<v Speaker 1>the sun snuffs out or explodes.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody's like, what the sun's gonna stop burning? At some point?

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<v Speaker 5>Everyone seemed to know about the idea that the sun

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<v Speaker 5>won't shine forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a good point. I never even considered that

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<v Speaker 1>that I would be the one informing people by asking

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<v Speaker 1>the question that the sun was not gonna last forever?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what what are you saying? No, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>seems to know that already. But maybe nobody seemed concerned

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody's answers were very far off in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody said, I don't know, ten years or one hundred years.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's like random, big number. Everybody feels like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so far off in the future it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, let's maybe take a step back, like how does inform? Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Like I imagine out in space there's stuff like dust

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<v Speaker 5>and little bits of rock, and at some point the

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<v Speaker 5>gravity pulls them together, like there's some nearby each other,

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<v Speaker 5>until they clump together, and first it's a giant rock,

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<v Speaker 5>and then it's an even bigger rock, and then it

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<v Speaker 5>just gets more massive, and at some point what.

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<v Speaker 1>Happens, Yeah, but it's not. Mostly rock stars are mostly

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<v Speaker 1>made out of gas, mostly out of hydrogen. So in

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Bang, most of the stuff that was formed

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<v Speaker 1>after the Big Bang was hydrogen, a little bit helium

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<v Speaker 1>and a few heavier elements, but mostly you just have

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<v Speaker 1>huge clouds of gas formed in the early universe, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And then gravity takes over and gravity slowly pulls those

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<v Speaker 1>things together, as you said, and accumulates these gas clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>And then those gas clouds get pulled together by gravity

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<v Speaker 1>and they get squeezed together more and more until it

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<v Speaker 1>gets denser and denser, and eventually it gets squeezed together

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<v Speaker 1>by gravity enough that it starts to burn. And by burn,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean fuse, I mean you have like nuclear bombs

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<v Speaker 1>going off because of the pressure inside these big clump

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<v Speaker 1>of hydrogen.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, what do you mean they get denser and denser,

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<v Speaker 5>like just more and more hydrogen atoms just kind of

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<v Speaker 5>bunch up because they're all attracted to each other by gravity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's kind of about like a runaway process. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had a perfectly smooth universe filled with hydrogen atoms,

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<v Speaker 1>then no one would want to go anywhere because you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be tugged in every direction at the same strength.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, everybody would be attracted to everybody else equally.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that sounds like a good party, right, universe party,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all attracted to each other.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, created is just a big swinger party.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Hey, you know the analogy works because we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about fusion and.

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<v Speaker 5>Fision, so I thinks are going to get hot.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want your relationship to go supernova. Later on

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<v Speaker 1>in relationship advice from an astrophysicist.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, they were just knocking out that to that advice,

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<v Speaker 5>children go out and look at the sun. People have

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<v Speaker 5>explosive relationships. This is our last episode, by the way, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, so, but there were little areas in the universe

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<v Speaker 1>early on that were a little denser than others, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's just because of quantum fluctuations. And then those areas

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<v Speaker 1>were heavier because there's a little bit more stuff. Heavier,

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<v Speaker 1>you have more gravitational pull than anywhere else, So then

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<v Speaker 1>you start to attract more stuff, and the heavier you get,

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<v Speaker 1>the denser region becomes, the more gravity it has, the

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<v Speaker 1>stronger its ability to pull more stuff in, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it gets heavier and heavier, and it's a runaway process

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<v Speaker 1>where pretty soon it's aculating stuff faster and faster.

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<v Speaker 5>So you can imagine like at some point a giant

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<v Speaker 5>ball of really compressed gas, right, Like maybe at the

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<v Speaker 5>edges it's not as compressed, but in the middle, it's

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<v Speaker 5>just everything's trying to push it together, right, But it

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't immediately fuse because hydrogen atoms are also repelling each

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<v Speaker 5>other at the same time, right, Like they're attracted by gravity,

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<v Speaker 5>but they're repelling each other by other forces.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Fusion is not easy to pull off. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we're trying to do it in experiments all the

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<v Speaker 1>time here on Earth.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's like trying to squeeze two mantic together that

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<v Speaker 5>are on the same polarity, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or trying to make two kids share one ice

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<v Speaker 1>cream or something that's not it's easy to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Not a good idea spelling. They're being attracted by gravity,

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<v Speaker 5>repelling by electronic forces, but at some point, if you

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<v Speaker 5>get them close enough, then another force kicks in, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's what kind of fuses them together. Is that true?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's when you access the strong nuclear force,

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<v Speaker 1>and that fuses them together, and the strong nuclear force

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<v Speaker 1>very strong then therefore its name. And when you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you release a huge amount of energy.

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<v Speaker 5>And so that's what all of the energy is coming from,

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<v Speaker 5>is just these hydrogen atoms fusing together.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Almost all the light from all the stars

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<v Speaker 1>in the universe is from hydrogen fusing together and creating

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<v Speaker 1>all that energy and shooting it out into space.

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<v Speaker 5>But is it like a kind of like a chain reaction,

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<v Speaker 5>like you know, like a nuclear bomb, like one explosion

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<v Speaker 5>causes the next explosion. Is that what's happening inside a

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<v Speaker 5>star or is it just just the pressure just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of makes it, like popcorn, just makes all these kernels

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<v Speaker 5>pop up up?

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<v Speaker 1>So on Earth, it's a chain reaction you're thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>like fission. Fission is the opposite process, and you break

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<v Speaker 1>a nucleus up and it sprays out and stuff. I'm here,

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<v Speaker 1>you just I have a huge blob of hydrogen in

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<v Speaker 1>the core and it's being squeezed by the outside and

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<v Speaker 1>everything around it, and it gets really hot. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's true of every object, like even the Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>What's at the center of the Earth. It's not cold

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<v Speaker 1>at the center of the Earth. It's hot, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>hot for lots of reasons, but one major reason is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's being squeezed by gravity. All that rock on

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<v Speaker 1>the center of the Earth is being squeezed by all

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<v Speaker 1>the rock on the outside, and it gets turned into lava.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is lava hot Because it's been squeezed by gravity.

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<v Speaker 1>Gravity is pretty powerful if you give it enough time

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>So our cloud of hydrogen, it just kind of suddenly ignites,

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<v Speaker 5>or does it kind of like burns begins to burn slowly,

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<v Speaker 5>like does the stargo likesh or is it? Is it

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<v Speaker 5>kind of a long process?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it ignites pretty quickly once it gets going,

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<v Speaker 1>And what happens depends on how big it is. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a huge blob of gas, right and

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<v Speaker 1>it forms an enormous ball of hydrogen. Then it can

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<v Speaker 1>burn really brightly and not for very long. If it's small,

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<v Speaker 1>then it doesn't get to be big enough to burn

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, like the Earth or Jupiter or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Jupiter is like a star that never got started because

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<v Speaker 1>it just wasn't big enough for the core to start burning.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, you need more stuff to basically weigh down and

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<v Speaker 5>squeeze the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Yeah, the core of Jupiter is not being

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<v Speaker 6>It.

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. There are some common sense warnings on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not hot enough to start nuclear fusion.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so then things say squeeze and you got a

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and it's burning through nuclear fusion. It's turning

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<v Speaker 5>That's how stars are born, not just in Hollywood. And

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<v Speaker 5>then it just keeps burning for a long time, right

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<v Speaker 5>until all the hygrogen turns into helium.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's exactly right. You have fuel and you burn

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<v Speaker 1>that fuel, and when you've done burning that fuel, you're done.

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<v Speaker 1>But the interesting thing is that the output of fusion

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<v Speaker 1>is helium, right, And so what happens is that you

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<v Speaker 1>accumulate helium at the core of these stars, and then

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<v Speaker 1>if it keeps going, if it gets big enough, then

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<v Speaker 1>it can start to fuse helium.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, and then that it's like it goes into secondary

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<v Speaker 5>fuel burning mode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, it's burning helium because you can fuse helium

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<v Speaker 1>into the element with number four, which I embarrassed and

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<v Speaker 1>can't even remember. Is that the end?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So we're talking about what happens to a star

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<v Speaker 5>and as at some point it makes it turns all

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<v Speaker 5>the hydrogen into helium and eventually into iron, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>kind of when that's kind of when a supernova happens. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, it doesn't necessarily happen to have to be

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<v Speaker 1>a supernova depends on the mass of the star. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk just to be specific about a star like

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<v Speaker 1>ours in the sun, and any object that's like about

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<v Speaker 1>up to eight times the mass of the Sun is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have an experience like our sun. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what happens is it starts to burn hydrogen, like we said,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the hydrogen gets the core gets burned up

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<v Speaker 1>and you get helium, and then you start to burn

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<v Speaker 1>the hydrogen on the shell, and then the star starts

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<v Speaker 1>to grow. It gets bigger, like physically larger in space.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason is that you're now burning the hydrogen

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside and that the burning there is pushing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff out. It's like the radiation pressure is making it grow.

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<v Speaker 1>So the sun will keep burning and then it'll expand

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<v Speaker 1>and it'll cool, so it'll start to get larger and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll turn into a red giant. So giant meaning gets

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<v Speaker 1>bigger and red because it changed just color.

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<v Speaker 5>Because the color is related to the temperature, right, Like

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<v Speaker 5>the cooler it is the red, Like it's kind of counterintuitive,

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<v Speaker 5>the coler it is the star is the redder it is.

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<v Speaker 5>But then the hotter it is, the bluer it looks.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, And that's related to the wavelength of those lights.

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<v Speaker 1>That light. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Like if you could you press fast forward on

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<v Speaker 5>life on Earth, you would see the Sun as this

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<v Speaker 5>yellow dot. But eventually you'll see it grow and grow redder,

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<v Speaker 5>and then grow and grow. Eventually we'll take over our

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<v Speaker 5>entire sky and at some point it'll just snuff us out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Eventually we will be in the sun. Wa

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<v Speaker 1>Earth will just get like eaten up by the Sun. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's again billions of years in the future. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like three billion years.

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<v Speaker 5>In the future, three billion years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And so before but before we even get snuffed up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it'll get pretty hot and we wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be around anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh I see.

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<v Speaker 1>So first the ocean's boil and then we get snuffed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah wow. And then that's that's like the last phase

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<v Speaker 1>before the Sun dies and then it's mostly used up

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<v Speaker 1>its fuel and you know, it's like a fire, You

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<v Speaker 1>use up the fuel and then the fire goes out.

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<v Speaker 5>So everything turned to iron.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe, And it's not every star that can make iron, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on the size of it. Mostly iron is

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<v Speaker 1>made in much bigger stars, So our star is not

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<v Speaker 1>big enough to make iron, so we'll probably make helium

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<v Speaker 1>and a little bit of lithium and a few other things. Oh.

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<v Speaker 5>I see. So some stars are bigger, so they have

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<v Speaker 5>more pressure so they can cook iron, but ours cannot exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Ours is not by far one of the biggest stars

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<v Speaker 1>in the universe. It's relatively modest. Yeah, okay, And then

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<v Speaker 1>when it burns off all the hydrogen sort of on

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<v Speaker 1>the outside, then it'll go out, and what we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>left with is something they call a white dwarf, which

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<v Speaker 1>is basically just meaning a big cool blob, something that's

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<v Speaker 1>not burning anymore of what it's just sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>leftover stuff. You know, you have enough elements there to

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<v Speaker 1>sit there there. It's hot and so it's sort of glowing,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not actually burning anymore. And you'll have some

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<v Speaker 1>helium and maybe some lithium and just be like a

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<v Speaker 1>dense blob, but it won't be bright the same way,

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<v Speaker 1>and it'll cool and eventually become a black dwarf, which

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<v Speaker 1>means basically a big.

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<v Speaker 5>Lump of rock, like just a giant meteorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, though mostly made of like frozen helium.

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<v Speaker 5>Frozen helium for real.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, because mostly what mostly what the Sun is

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<v Speaker 1>is burning hydrogen into helium, and again, some of that

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<v Speaker 1>helium will get burned into heavier stuff, but most of

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<v Speaker 1>it won't, I think.

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<v Speaker 5>And so this is going to be like a giant

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<v Speaker 5>ice ball the size of what.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you'll be small, You'll be smaller than the current Sun. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, it's just the core. Yeah, just the core

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<v Speaker 1>is left over because all the other stuff is blown

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<v Speaker 1>out when it turns into a red giant. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some significant fraction of the mass of the Sun is

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<v Speaker 1>going to end up left over as a white dwarf

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<v Speaker 1>and then a black dwarf. Yeah, exactly, And you know

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<v Speaker 1>that has a future. It could be that that then

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<v Speaker 1>new star. You know, a lot of the stuff that's

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<v Speaker 1>inside of a star. And so you know, everything that

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<v Speaker 1>we're that we're made out of is a remnant from

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<v Speaker 1>and these fusion furnaces making the heavier elements, then there

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<v Speaker 1>would all just be hydrogen helium. And so it's gravity

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<v Speaker 1>squeezing this stuff together over billions of years. That makes

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<v Speaker 1>the heavier elements, and mostly in the bigger stars that

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<v Speaker 1>you get up to like iron. You know, the bigger

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<v Speaker 1>stars can do more exciting stuff. Like our sun is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to go supernova, it's just not big enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But a bigger star could have enough mass that it

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<v Speaker 1>hole or a neutron star, which I think is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the weirdest things in the universe. So it's more

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<v Speaker 1>of an implosion than an explosion. Actually yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty crazy stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>So you're saying that's when the heavier elements get meat.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, in some of these supernovas, because you have

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<v Speaker 1>heavy stuff flying around and it collides and it forms

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<v Speaker 1>even heavier stuff. Yeah right. And then but the heaviest stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>So all the super heavy metals in the universe are

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, and that's why they're so rare, so that you

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>And looking to buy a corvette.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, it's wondering like do I look like a big,

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<v Speaker 4>Yellow dwarf.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot Yeah, exactly. And one thing that I think is

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<v Speaker 1>And the first stars in the universe were massive, they

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<v Speaker 1>were incredible, and so they didn't live for very long.

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<v Speaker 1>Like those first stars we talked about, none of those

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<v Speaker 1>are around anymore. None of the stars that are in

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<v Speaker 1>the universe now are first generation stars. They're all second, third,

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<v Speaker 1>fourth generation, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>All the stars were seeing the night sky in like

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<v Speaker 1>They're all None of those are among the first stars

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<v Speaker 1>that were formed about one hundred million years. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>big bang. Yeah, it's only recently people scientists even saw

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<v Speaker 1>the light from those first stars. It's really hard to see.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to use the infrared because the universe was

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<v Speaker 1>so dense back then but yeah, our star is made

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<v Speaker 1>out of leftover bits from other stars earlier that burned

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<v Speaker 1>and exploded, wow.

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<v Speaker 5>And recombined, right, And eventually you're saying, our big ice

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't do this forever, you know, Like there's

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<v Speaker 1>get denser and denser, and you run out of fuel.

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<v Speaker 1>So like think about the Milky Way galaxy. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>enormous blobs of hydrogen gas. Still it's still making stars,

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<v Speaker 5>So eventually everything's going to be like iron and heavier metals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and then things will get dark.

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<v Speaker 5>Things are going to get rocky.

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<v Speaker 1>Things are going to get rocky, that's right. But some

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<v Speaker 1>of these stars, some of these stars are going to

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<v Speaker 1>burn a long time. Like there are stars that have

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<v Speaker 5>Years, but that's not us. So in five billion years,

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<v Speaker 5>we got to figure something.

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<v Speaker 1>Out yeah, we have to figure out how to find

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<v Speaker 1>get to another star, and we got less than you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three ish billion years to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh man, so we have to jump to another star

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<v Speaker 5>that is burning and or just learn to live in

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<v Speaker 5>dark kind of right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, fusion is not impossible. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>can copy the energy source of the stars if if

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<v Speaker 1>we we don't necessarily sarily need a star, right, we

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<v Speaker 1>if we could figure that out.

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<v Speaker 5>But do we have enough hydrogen or war to last?

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<v Speaker 5>Does that long?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah? I mean the Sun is massively inefficient, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like most of the energy of the Sun gets thrown

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<v Speaker 1>off into space and then and not even use. So

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<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't need anything nearly as big as the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>to power human civilization.

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<v Speaker 5>So we could just go out there grab some of

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<v Speaker 5>that hydrogen floating around, or go to Jupiter maybe grab

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<v Speaker 5>all that hydrogen. Yeah, create our little mini sun here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, if you're living out in space, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about pollution, like, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>just do fission, which is much easier, and there's plenty

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<v Speaker 1>radioactive waste to just jettison. You're already in space, so

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<v Speaker 5>You say that now you're never.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to fill the universe with garbage. Yeah, I get you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think in a billion years people are gonna say, I

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<v Speaker 5>Man, responsible, you're gonna be like, don't throw don't throw

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins. Joking on your cosmic ways? Why is that funny work?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Sorry, cool. Well, that's that's kind of interesting, that

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<v Speaker 5>the idea that maybe we will never leave our solar system.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Good job.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks,