Speaker 1: Look mad oh, I see you? Why why? And look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that? Culture? Yes? Goodness lost? Culture
Speaker 1: is just calling. I love the variation on the sort
Speaker 1: of the cadence, the melody, you know, keep the fresh.
Speaker 1: Talking is music talking his music, and that's a role
Speaker 1: of culture. Number forty six. Talking is music. Who is
Speaker 1: the most musical speaking voice you've ever heard? I would
Speaker 1: say I reject the premise of that question, because this
Speaker 1: is some thing. Everyone is a singer when they're talking.
Speaker 1: I believe that everyone can learn to sing. I think
Speaker 1: that's so beautiful. You know, you might need a higher
Speaker 1: expensive singing coach, but you know, if you work hard
Speaker 1: enough at your job, you could say that and do
Speaker 1: it as an extracurricular Sure, sure, you know. I think
Speaker 1: singing is just bravery, is just going for it. And um,
Speaker 1: I mean I say this as someone who knows nothing
Speaker 1: about singing, but I feel like that's not true at all.
Speaker 1: If you just are delusional enough to to think that
Speaker 1: you can do it, you can do it. I literally agree,
Speaker 1: And I just want to backtrack and say that Bowen
Speaker 1: is one of the most resonant counter tenors of our time.
Speaker 1: Adam Lambert was found dead was found dead. Sorry, but
Speaker 1: it was literally true. At one point the two front
Speaker 1: people of Queen You're gonna compare me to them. I'm
Speaker 1: coming for the counter today. I'm declaring them in the
Speaker 1: presence of Bowen Yang, one of the most resonant listen
Speaker 1: to my words, most resonant counter tenors of our time.
Speaker 1: Put it on a T shirt and very much I Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers can't hold a damn tune. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: That was just kidding. I'm kidding. He's one of the
Speaker 1: best singers of all time, one of the best vehicles.
Speaker 1: I'm off marijuana for the next month and a half.
Speaker 1: You're really going to commit that hard to this? I appla. Look,
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers is touring with his famous yearly show Have
Speaker 1: you heard of Christmas? Please check it out. We cannot
Speaker 1: recommend to it's sold out. Please you can't come. As
Speaker 1: they say, as they say every Tuesday, and especially in
Speaker 1: voter suppress states, stay in line, stay, stay in line.
Speaker 1: It's actually number fifty. Stay line, okay, um. I will
Speaker 1: say that this episode is coming out on Wednesday, and
Speaker 1: so tonight it is November ten, and you can come
Speaker 1: see me and Greta Titlement for the New York Comedy Festival.
Speaker 1: We have a show at seven thirty and also ten pm.
Speaker 1: Stay in line. How you doing? I have a asked
Speaker 1: you a question, that question as a way of telling,
Speaker 1: as a way of gracelessly seguing into how I'm doing,
Speaker 1: which is not well. I'm working with the sty. I
Speaker 1: have a sty coming in. Don't Oh no, I got
Speaker 1: I put rice in a sock. I'm putting in the
Speaker 1: microwave for twenty seconds. I'm putting. I'm doing a hot
Speaker 1: sort of compress kind of thing. I hope that works.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you, I threw up last night.
Speaker 1: What's going on? So? I went to Palm Springs Pride
Speaker 1: and sort of did that. Is Palm Springs Pride in November.
Speaker 1: It is famously they do Pride a couple of countries
Speaker 1: a couple of months later. Anyways, a few, yeah, several
Speaker 1: What was it? What was the experience? Like, um, really
Speaker 1: good until it was really bad. I was having a
Speaker 1: really good time and I sort of, as you say,
Speaker 1: went too hard and threw up like I was seventeen,
Speaker 1: damn because of partying too much. But I did sort
Speaker 1: of start a new era that beat in necklace eram
Speaker 1: I'm in my necklace era? Now I love it. I
Speaker 1: think this is a long time coming. You actually have
Speaker 1: avoided jewelry. You are very accessory phobic, and that's bigoted
Speaker 1: of you. Yeah, well I don't like them, and but
Speaker 1: now you do. I'm a bigot against them until now.
Speaker 1: And it's sort of it takes different people different paces,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Right now? In my necklace
Speaker 1: are this is actually Tony Gomez his necklace that I stole.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna like that. I'm at how much I'm
Speaker 1: going to wear it over the next week. I told
Speaker 1: him I would keep it safe, but I left the
Speaker 1: party we were at last night early to go throw up.
Speaker 1: So I ended up sort of being like, can I
Speaker 1: wear that? And he was like yes, And now I
Speaker 1: still have it on and I will continue to wear
Speaker 1: it until I get back to him, which I will.
Speaker 1: That's nice and I like that you are of making
Speaker 1: it time bound and saying only a week myself accountable,
Speaker 1: speaking of singing, just to sort of make this one
Speaker 1: of the most chaotic intros to any podcast ever, to
Speaker 1: sort of return to the front it could you imagine
Speaker 1: Cynthia Arrivo and Ariana we talked about this. We haven't
Speaker 1: spoken about it until now, and no gays have until now,
Speaker 1: No gays have until now. I mean what's remarkable is
Speaker 1: everyone's happy. That's what's remarkable about it. Like when does
Speaker 1: this ever happen anymore? That people are like, yes, they
Speaker 1: got it right. I mean. Casting has certainly been controversial
Speaker 1: this year and on many different projects, many different projects,
Speaker 1: but not the Wicked movie, not Cynthia Arriva and Ariana
Speaker 1: Days couldn't and also the stakes couldn't be hired. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? No, Because, as we famously know,
Speaker 1: it's one of the most famous rules of culture playing
Speaker 1: alphabet is war. But we've made her the general. She
Speaker 1: has been the named general of the Battle of Wicked,
Speaker 1: and she will go into back oh sometime next year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's going into battle this London, this this summer in London,
Speaker 1: and she will emerge victorious. Okay, yeah, and Ariana Grande
Speaker 1: sort of the lieutenant. This is how I'm assuming war's
Speaker 1: work is general and lieutenant, General and lieutenant. I don't
Speaker 1: know how that sort of order breaks down, but no
Speaker 1: one does. I have nothing to add to the conversation
Speaker 1: except I'm thrilled. Here's what I would say, Thank you,
Speaker 1: great job casting, great job casting. We'll see you there.
Speaker 1: Uh there is. I think the director is also a
Speaker 1: perfect sort of Mr mr Chu Mr to Mr m
Speaker 1: ch Um. Can't wait for his his take on it.
Speaker 1: I mean, and we're available to just saying we're available.
Speaker 1: I mean one of us might be. I think we've
Speaker 1: got a fiarra, we've got a box here, That's all
Speaker 1: we're saying. And if they sort of want, if they
Speaker 1: want to see tapes, if they want to see tapes,
Speaker 1: it's um. But you know who I would cast, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, see our guests this week would really work
Speaker 1: in any roles, or the female roles, the animal roles,
Speaker 1: the genderless roles, whatever. I think. Morrible, he'd be a
Speaker 1: great Morrible, would be a great dilmante You said it,
Speaker 1: speak it out loud, We'll speak it out loud. Um.
Speaker 1: Our guest is really just pretty phenomenal. I alluded to
Speaker 1: him earlier when he came on the Zoom that I've
Speaker 1: been a close follower for a long time and I
Speaker 1: would like to tell him in person very soon, so
Speaker 1: let's just bring him in. It was a perfect allusion.
Speaker 1: It was a perfect illusion. Uh. He is such a
Speaker 1: wonder stunning, stunning. Um. He was the adorable p A
Speaker 1: on The Lately Show with Craig Ferguson. He was writing
Speaker 1: he Kime Alive. He has written for Black Monday on
Speaker 1: Breakable Kimmy Schmidt. Now he hosts the Wonderful podcast I
Speaker 1: said no gifts. I love saying that, I said no gifts.
Speaker 1: It can be sweet, it can be it can be genuine,
Speaker 1: it couldn't be just something you say. Uh. Perfect, A
Speaker 1: perfect sort of sound bite for anybody. Good title, good title,
Speaker 1: great title. Um. He tries to destroy his guests every episode,
Speaker 1: and they always undermine him by bringing a gift and
Speaker 1: they always end up talking about what's under the wrapping.
Speaker 1: He's so funny, so wonderful. Um, it's sort of I
Speaker 1: think unfortunately, I feel like he is now the ambassador
Speaker 1: to Salt Lake City for some people, which I I
Speaker 1: wish I could turn the computer around. I just can't. Um.
Speaker 1: But frozen up there is Miriam Cosby um with her
Speaker 1: eyes wide open, screaming at Whitney, who she now has
Speaker 1: a problem with. I'm very excited to sort of get
Speaker 1: into it with the guests. Me too, me too, But anyway, um,
Speaker 1: we're so so thrilled to have him. Everyone please welcome
Speaker 1: rich What okay? You too? God bless, God bless. I
Speaker 1: had dinner at four thirty. I had a full dinner
Speaker 1: at four thirty pm? How was it? Where? So? How
Speaker 1: do you feel safe that you can Salid? I had
Speaker 1: to It's a look. I knew we were going to
Speaker 1: be recording. I have a gym appointment at eight pm.
Speaker 1: After this recording, I would throw up. This is the
Speaker 1: scheduling that's just dominating my life. Now, Wow, a full
Speaker 1: dinner for thirty I will say this. I was recently
Speaker 1: with my parents on vacation and they have dinner at
Speaker 1: four thirty. So this is very parental of you. This
Speaker 1: is very full grown adults dinner at four thirty. This
Speaker 1: is Thanksgiving time. This is I mean, I'm saying the
Speaker 1: timing is very Thanksgiving. It's like, wait, you're we're eating? Okay?
Speaker 1: I guess we're eating at three because they's been in
Speaker 1: the oven for eight hours. You know, everyone will be
Speaker 1: hungry at two, and everyone will be hungry at seven thirty. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Well we're so sorry that you had to sort of
Speaker 1: shift your schedule. This is my life now. My gym
Speaker 1: is only open on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, so it's just
Speaker 1: an issue for me every Monday. Butcher, describe your lifestyle.
Speaker 1: What's the typical Monday. Let's just stick to Monday's for
Speaker 1: you if you weren't recording a podcast. But would that
Speaker 1: look like if I were recording a podcast, I would
Speaker 1: you know? I get up, well, we are in Daylight Savings,
Speaker 1: you know the sudo of daylight Savings ending or beginning?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll wake up it around seven, kind
Speaker 1: of get out of bed. I make some coffee, I
Speaker 1: do a little reading. I eat my protein bar, which
Speaker 1: is does not register as a flavor in my mouth
Speaker 1: anymore because it's said the same thing. It's absolutely something
Speaker 1: to chew and swallow. Then I'll go to work. We
Speaker 1: start at ten o'clock. We go till noon. We have
Speaker 1: a lunch break. What do you eat then? Then Monday,
Speaker 1: I'm eating a protein shake. The first like nine day
Speaker 1: are horrible. Stop right now, stop the pops. Are you
Speaker 1: trying to sound like an ideal? Because I think I
Speaker 1: think you've come on this podcast so that you could
Speaker 1: say what your Monday routine. So you can sound like
Speaker 1: an ideal because you've said not, You've not missed one
Speaker 1: step so far. It's a lot of protein and health
Speaker 1: and waking up early and reading and at eight. None
Speaker 1: of this is by choice. Look pre Zoom writer's rooms,
Speaker 1: I was, you know, we would have lunch at work,
Speaker 1: munches being purchased for me. I didn't have to think
Speaker 1: about that element. Now I have defend for myself, which
Speaker 1: I know most of America's screaming, yeah they are. But
Speaker 1: a nice little thing about being in a writer's room
Speaker 1: is occasionally you get a mediocre sandwich for lunch. Occasion.
Speaker 1: Now I can't think about it, so I'm making a
Speaker 1: protein shake. Sure, this is the thing that is very astute.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is just transferring from pre COVID,
Speaker 1: where you were not making decisions necessarily about where you
Speaker 1: were eating for lunch. That was sort of being made
Speaker 1: for you on some level. You would choose the particular
Speaker 1: kind of sandwich you would get. Right now that you're
Speaker 1: you know, doing writers from from writers from from home,
Speaker 1: you've maintained that decision fatigue and you're just like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to think about it, and therefore I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna make the same protein shake. I also can't cook.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go to a restaurant during the Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm stumbling into my kitchen. I'm making the protein shake.
Speaker 1: I'm out of bananas at this point, so it's even
Speaker 1: worse than usual. Shit. Uh, and I'm I'm eating it.
Speaker 1: It's fine. I can't make a decision. Someone canceled on
Speaker 1: brunch brunch on me yesterday. It was two hours of
Speaker 1: me trying to decide what to do with the rest
Speaker 1: of my day vacuum. Yeah, well, at least it was
Speaker 1: something useful. Can I ask you a question? So, basically,
Speaker 1: if you're in a group of people, whether it's at
Speaker 1: work or whatever, and there's that moment wherever where someone
Speaker 1: or someone says they sort of throw their head over
Speaker 1: their one shoulder and they go, so what should we
Speaker 1: have for lunch? Are you someone who weighs in or
Speaker 1: are you someone who's like, I'm going with the flow
Speaker 1: of what everyone wants. And by that same token, would
Speaker 1: you ever be the one person who says, hey, guys, sorry,
Speaker 1: I know everyone wants this, but I don't. What role
Speaker 1: do you play in a lunch just He hasn't had
Speaker 1: to be in this position. I know, but I'm just
Speaker 1: asking in terms of who you are as an individual,
Speaker 1: because we want to get to know you. That's why
Speaker 1: people listen to the podcast Fair Question. And I am
Speaker 1: someone who will go along with almost anything. I will
Speaker 1: eat garbage. But it was actually at Black Monday. There
Speaker 1: were two restaurants. I think one of the restaurants started
Speaker 1: with the word doctor. I can't remember what it was,
Speaker 1: but the first time we had it, it was so
Speaker 1: revolting and made everyone feel so bad that when the
Speaker 1: writer picked that restaurant again to eat at, I said, no,
Speaker 1: we can't do that, We're not doctor. Also the second
Speaker 1: one is is it a Los Angeles chain tender Green's. Yes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they served me salmon that was gelatinous. Yeah. It was
Speaker 1: essentially putting. And after that I said, we're I have
Speaker 1: to stand up. We're not ordering from tender Greens anymore.
Speaker 1: We're not. You know, the fried chicken at tender Greens
Speaker 1: is really suspect. It's really expensive cafeteria food. You better
Speaker 1: be careful. You both underestimate your own personal power and
Speaker 1: influence here. I mean, you have collectively combined the power
Speaker 1: to take them down. I hope, so I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't want anyone sort of having gelatinous salmon or that
Speaker 1: suspect fried chicken. I will say every time we order
Speaker 1: tender greens, now I will get a soup. I think
Speaker 1: they're chicken. And that's a hack that I offered to.
Speaker 1: Soup is a hack for almost any restaurant. Soup is iconic.
Speaker 1: It's real culture. Number one hundred and three is iconic.
Speaker 1: It's such a hack when you order something that's on
Speaker 1: the menu at a place, it's such people don't think
Speaker 1: about soup. They don't think about soup, and it's a
Speaker 1: nominee for That's not true. That's not true. I always
Speaker 1: year round think about soup. I think about it all
Speaker 1: the sunny, asked anybody at thirty Rock. I do know
Speaker 1: something about Bridger, about his his sort of restaurant choices
Speaker 1: that I find so charming and I relate to so much.
Speaker 1: Is that Bridger for a while on Twitter back in
Speaker 1: like two thousand eleven twelve, had a whole run about Arby's,
Speaker 1: and he is an Arby's queen because Arby's just so
Speaker 1: good and never gets talked about Bridger. Can you can
Speaker 1: you talk about this? You did have a whole series
Speaker 1: of tweets. Okay, first of all, I want to say
Speaker 1: that Bridger was one of the Please this is so humiliating.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry Bridger. I would say that Bridger was
Speaker 1: like one of those like quote unquote early Twitter, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this person is so funny, Like this is back when
Speaker 1: you would follow follow people on Twitter because they were
Speaker 1: just just cranking out funny, funny stuff before it like
Speaker 1: became what it is now. Um it still is that
Speaker 1: to some degree, but like Bridger was one of those people.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this guy is so funny,
Speaker 1: and and he had a bunch of tweets about like
Speaker 1: going to Arby's, you know, meeting people at Arby's. Maybe
Speaker 1: today I'll go to Arby's. And there was one tweet
Speaker 1: that there's one teet that I will never forget. I know,
Speaker 1: I know it word for word. This is my one
Speaker 1: of my favorite all time Bridge. I'm so sorry to
Speaker 1: do this. This is so this is sorry at all.
Speaker 1: He wants to do it, That's why he's doing it.
Speaker 1: I'm glad for Arby's. For Arby's too, Okay, and I
Speaker 1: haven't had them in a while, but this is the tweet,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of spoiling the tweet already, but this
Speaker 1: is the tweet. If you want to see the tweet,
Speaker 1: just go back, look back in two thousand and twelve.
Speaker 1: You can read it yourself, but you've been warned. This
Speaker 1: is a bridge winninger classic. Can you guess where I am? Hint?
Speaker 1: I am looking at a person parentheses, the person is
Speaker 1: wearing a shirt other parentheses. I am at r baby.
Speaker 1: It's the perfect congratulations. Can we get a ding ding
Speaker 1: dings affect? I am? I'm just a puddle and I'm
Speaker 1: thrilled up out. Look, I've been brought on here and
Speaker 1: now I'm just proudly owning how much I love Arby's.
Speaker 1: It's good to be trashed, Will say, Arby's the menus
Speaker 1: too big. We've got to narrow it down. Wow, Arby's
Speaker 1: is shooting out some experimental things there. You make the
Speaker 1: roast beef sandwich. It's of course, it's incredibly it's it's
Speaker 1: a very suspicious product. I enjoy eating. But when you
Speaker 1: start putting that into like a e ro what are
Speaker 1: we talking? Just do your thing. So you just wish
Speaker 1: Arby's was more like an in and out situation. A
Speaker 1: lean menu, few things that everyone loves that are undeniably good.
Speaker 1: We could all learn something from in and out. Especially
Speaker 1: they're anti VAXs well anti Bible versus. Those are the
Speaker 1: two things. Are they anti vacs? The owner is very
Speaker 1: anti sort. He's pushing back against a lot of vaccine
Speaker 1: not mandates, but like checking like vaccination staffs and whatever
Speaker 1: coming from Bowen Chick fil A Yang. He is an
Speaker 1: absolutely and I'm like, no, this is well, Bridget will
Speaker 1: relate to this Chick fil A. I feel like, is
Speaker 1: this thing that listen to this explanation, queen no, no,
Speaker 1: better hear me out like I am it was. I don't,
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know exactly where it originated, but
Speaker 1: it feels like Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, Monte like like that
Speaker 1: part of the country, like rockies west of Midwest, like
Speaker 1: that was like our thing. And then in the years after,
Speaker 1: like two thousand and seven, it's really fucking like metastasized
Speaker 1: into this Chick fil a thing that we know now
Speaker 1: Jesus got involved. Well Jesus, Jesus was always involved, let's
Speaker 1: get that straight, but Jesus straight. So it was it
Speaker 1: was a thing where like if you grew up in
Speaker 1: let's say, Aurora, Colorado like me, you would go to
Speaker 1: Chick fil A and be like, oh right, they're closed
Speaker 1: on Sundays, but you know, all the Mormon kids work there,
Speaker 1: and we're all gonna go and drink a lemonade. And
Speaker 1: it was just like part of the life. It was
Speaker 1: like built into the lifestyle. There is that is that?
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say Bridger? Weirdly sort of? Chick
Speaker 1: fil A was only in malls since Utah, and it dwindled.
Speaker 1: There was really meaning Chick fil A and fashion play small.
Speaker 1: For years it was fashion place where you want to go. Obvious,
Speaker 1: it was the saddest Chick fil A. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: around two thousand seven comes roaring back. It's all over
Speaker 1: the place and now people kind of own it almost
Speaker 1: as a political thing or of course, which is just
Speaker 1: mine buggling. I had a straight writer say to my face, sorry,
Speaker 1: I just like how it tastes. What are I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it's a fine chicken sandwich. You don't have to throw
Speaker 1: in my face. That's the thing I feel bad about.
Speaker 1: It's like the sad, which is fine. It's fine, but
Speaker 1: when you have places like tender Greens who are doing
Speaker 1: chicken so wrong. It's at least nice to go to
Speaker 1: Chick fil A and where I have done it, and
Speaker 1: at least you know they're going to do their chicken right.
Speaker 1: But you know who else Those chicken tenders right Arby's.
Speaker 1: They do chicken incredibly well. They do chicken incredibly well.
Speaker 1: And they have a soda swap, the one in Times
Speaker 1: Square as the one with all the incredible sodas, where
Speaker 1: you can say, it's not just roop here, it's vanilla
Speaker 1: roop here. It's not just Dr Pepper, it's cherry dr
Speaker 1: pepper that you can swip and swap do all these
Speaker 1: sorts of things. I am so happy to hear about.
Speaker 1: No one knows about Arby's chicken tenders. They don't know
Speaker 1: because they're sore, because because you said it, you said it.
Speaker 1: It's the men used too big, isolate in and out
Speaker 1: we do burgers by see you later. I feel like
Speaker 1: the soda swap, as Matt calls it. When Matt says
Speaker 1: soda swap, he means like that iconic thing. It's a
Speaker 1: coke free style there. Oh my god, that's this is
Speaker 1: this is the writer brain really working, yes, in that way.
Speaker 1: That he knew what it was really called. That's that
Speaker 1: writer brain. But I think he invented the term sort
Speaker 1: of off the top. I'm wish coke freestyle. That's a
Speaker 1: style that's hot, but it was I feel like this
Speaker 1: is also a big thing. And among Mormons who can't
Speaker 1: drink alcohol, can't have caffeine, can't like or I mean,
Speaker 1: they can't have Coca cola obviously, but at least they
Speaker 1: can get creative with like adding some syrups to a phosphate,
Speaker 1: to a sprite, to whatever is that is? That also
Speaker 1: fair to say, though, And this is the most confusing thing,
Speaker 1: maybe the most well, no, it's not the most confusing
Speaker 1: thing about Mormon is um, but one of the most
Speaker 1: confusing things performans drink Coke's coffee is the one definite no.
Speaker 1: Why why do you have? Do do you have an
Speaker 1: answer to why? Because because I know you, I know
Speaker 1: you sort of left the church. You were you were
Speaker 1: like a Heather gay and when you were a teenager?
Speaker 1: Is that correct? I was. I didn't come out till
Speaker 1: I was thirty, oh my goodness, And you didn't leave
Speaker 1: Mormonism till you I like, it was a slow exit
Speaker 1: for Mormonism starting when I was like nineteen twenty. Okay,
Speaker 1: so so got it. So that feels that feels pretty
Speaker 1: I would say that that that all makes sense, like
Speaker 1: based on like a lot of a lot of this
Speaker 1: journey just feels like that is sort of the way
Speaker 1: it's it's it gets tracked these days. But talk about
Speaker 1: the sodas so okay, so the soda culture, caffeine culture
Speaker 1: within Mormonism, it's baffling to everyone. I'm going to just
Speaker 1: be a spokesport person for the Mormon Church at this
Speaker 1: point and just let people know I'm started to make
Speaker 1: I think it needs to be you because there's so
Speaker 1: many voices on the real hospitals of Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1: I want to know, like how you can distill it
Speaker 1: so we can understand it. And then I want to
Speaker 1: know who you identify with most on the show through
Speaker 1: the lens of soda. I just feel like, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to put you in this position. Don't apologize that. I
Speaker 1: want to reach out to Mormons everywhere and say you
Speaker 1: can have any caffeinated soda. You can have a coke,
Speaker 1: a diet coke, the mountain, do a diet mountain, do
Speaker 1: a pepsi, a diet pepsi. If it's the only thing
Speaker 1: at Arby's. Can you have cream soda? You can have?
Speaker 1: You have so much cream soda, NonStop cream so wow, goodness.
Speaker 1: Cannot have coffee, cannot have coffee, cannot have caffeinated tea.
Speaker 1: What is it a terrestrial drink? Is it a devil's drain?
Speaker 1: An outer darkness? Drains Mormons have? It's an outer darkness? Well, no,
Speaker 1: there are very few people who go to outer darkness?
Speaker 1: What is that? Basically within Mormonism, outer darkness is like
Speaker 1: ultimate hell. So wait, Heather Gay was just talking about
Speaker 1: this on this episode. I didn't know this that there's
Speaker 1: different levels of I only saw the last half of
Speaker 1: the episode. Yeah, and because Bravo put it on at
Speaker 1: I know it was really weird. This was the big
Speaker 1: one because Jen gets arrested. Yeah, I saw the good part.
Speaker 1: How the sort of delineates it. She goes, there's celestial,
Speaker 1: there's um, what's what's the one below that? Maybe telestial
Speaker 1: telestial terrestrial darkness? The outer darkness and outer darkness is
Speaker 1: reserved for truly eleven people or something like it. Like
Speaker 1: the rule is if you meet God and then deny God,
Speaker 1: you go to outer darkness. So it's very few people
Speaker 1: get that opportunity everyone else. I meant God, and she said, baby,
Speaker 1: you better stick with me, and I said no, bit
Speaker 1: whatever I meant God, I said, never mind, Queen, I'm
Speaker 1: turning around. You watch my fat ass walk away. Where's
Speaker 1: out of darkness? Taking the elevator down and there, honey,
Speaker 1: heat it up, beat it up anyway. This is so human.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Bridger, I started apologizing. This was the planel
Speaker 1: so I feel like you must. I feel this way
Speaker 1: when people ask me about like my upbringing, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to sort of get re traumatized in
Speaker 1: the recounting of certain things. It's not that severe, but
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, but it is sort of like I gotta,
Speaker 1: you know, sort of exhume all that stuff from my
Speaker 1: life and be O, what do you think for me?
Speaker 1: It's like people just don't know how to modulate. They
Speaker 1: either they'll find out and then they don't ask anything
Speaker 1: and then it's weird, or they ask everything. And I'd
Speaker 1: much rather people just ask everything. I don't care. I'm
Speaker 1: happy to talk about it. And we've got to get
Speaker 1: we all have to get on the same page about
Speaker 1: Mormons drinking soda. That's the Mormon Church should be putting
Speaker 1: out ads. Yeah you can drink. Maybe it's like a
Speaker 1: collab with coke. Yeah, something. Well, Lisa Barlow is essentially
Speaker 1: advertising diet coke on the show, and so when when
Speaker 1: there was a question about soda consumption on the podcast
Speaker 1: just now, Um, I really was thrown for a loop
Speaker 1: because here she is already throwing it in the face
Speaker 1: of God outer darkness ship drinking tequila, um, and even
Speaker 1: selling it mass market. And she's obviously a huge fan
Speaker 1: of diet coke. But these things are sort of acceptable,
Speaker 1: I suppose. Yes, Lisa Barlow's entire relationship with Mormonism in baffling.
Speaker 1: What part of the religion are you involved in? Because
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to be the religion and her family
Speaker 1: is going to die. They eat a taco three three
Speaker 1: deals today. It's crazy wild. But I relate to that
Speaker 1: soda consumption. Yeah, you're talking to two sodaheads soda queen's
Speaker 1: when I was little. I actually think the reason I
Speaker 1: am the way I am is because growing up in
Speaker 1: the nineties, I think it hadn't hit Long Island that
Speaker 1: soda was bad so when I was when I was
Speaker 1: growing up, every dinner there was three types of soda
Speaker 1: on the table. There was a full two leader bottle
Speaker 1: of sprite, a full two lead bottle of coke, and
Speaker 1: a full two lead bottle of diet coke, the trinity,
Speaker 1: the trinity. Really, so that was coke sometimes sprite. When
Speaker 1: I was feeling like, maybe maybe we'll just chill tonight,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I was a dinner with
Speaker 1: a friend a week ago and he ordered himself a sprite.
Speaker 1: I could not believe. The very funny writer John Millstein. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's wonderful, very funny, and he told me there's a
Speaker 1: secret group of people who are drinking sprite. I'm not
Speaker 1: so secretly. The preferred drink in any situation for me
Speaker 1: is a sprite, no alcohol, just I want to sprite.
Speaker 1: The most refreshing drink in the world. It's one of
Speaker 1: the best kept secrets. All the coolest people are drinking sprite,
Speaker 1: and it's like it needs to be known. Do you
Speaker 1: guys want to know the Mandarin translation of sprite, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's b, which roughly translates to I might be getting
Speaker 1: this wrong, but it means snow, and I think it
Speaker 1: means snow nectar, like snow gorgeous, isn't that beautiful? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, that is I would drink sprite, But that's
Speaker 1: the same thing with mountain dew is a beautiful name. Gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Mound dew is absolutely stunning name. I wish that. I
Speaker 1: wish that had tasted as good as it sounded, because
Speaker 1: you hear a mountain dew and then you sort of
Speaker 1: drink what it is and you're like, oh, that feels
Speaker 1: like super sprite does like mountain. One of the darkest
Speaker 1: moments of my closeted life. It was probably two thousand twelve.
Speaker 1: I was living in a studio mid city Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: For some reason, I walked to the nearby Ralph's at
Speaker 1: eleven PM and purchased a diet mountain Dew. Started drinking
Speaker 1: it on my web. Way back, passed through a group
Speaker 1: of like tall, very good looking, very well dressed men
Speaker 1: near the l Ray Theater. And as I'm passing through,
Speaker 1: I look over and like this far away. As I'm
Speaker 1: drinking diet mountain dew is Morrissey, I felt I've never
Speaker 1: felt lower. Just trash. I just absolute trash. Did he
Speaker 1: notice you drinking this diamond? I'm sure it just screams
Speaker 1: out the packaging. Really, it's just like letting the only
Speaker 1: thing is to drink a mountain do code red because
Speaker 1: because because the packaging is literally code rad I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's it's alerting everyone around. I feel like morrissey
Speaker 1: Is would not judge someone for drinking and diet mountain dew.
Speaker 1: And it feels like maybe even like a very Smith's
Speaker 1: esque thing to drink one it like past eleven PM
Speaker 1: in mid City. Like it feels that that's part of
Speaker 1: the the imagery that that the Smith's evoke. I absolutely disagree.
Speaker 1: I think so. I think that's true. This this charming
Speaker 1: man drinking a diet mountain jew. I would go out tonight,
Speaker 1: but a diet mountain that's perfect. I think that's perfect. Okay,
Speaker 1: So before we ask you our question that we always
Speaker 1: ask our guests. I mean, this is this is compulsory
Speaker 1: at this point for you. What are your thoughts? I'm
Speaker 1: sure you've been asked so many times by people, what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the real house Hives of Salt
Speaker 1: Lake City? Are you enjoying it? Does it feel reflective
Speaker 1: of your memory of it, or you know the way
Speaker 1: you conceive of Salt Lake City because it is his
Speaker 1: Housewives intro. Because I heard on your episode of your
Speaker 1: podcast with Cola Scola that you had not waited the
Speaker 1: waters of Housewives. You just said, Okay, if they're doing
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, let me just see what the funk
Speaker 1: it is. It's a beautiful gateway. I think. I agree.
Speaker 1: I had seen maybe one episode of Beverly Hills and
Speaker 1: it was not hooked. Uh, and this has sucked me
Speaker 1: in in a way that I could have never imagined.
Speaker 1: You too beautiful. I went back home for the first
Speaker 1: time since the pandemic in April. I saw my parents
Speaker 1: and then I borrowed my mom's car and at about
Speaker 1: thirty PM drove to Beauty Lab and like, just to
Speaker 1: the Oh my god, you didn't go in, Well, it
Speaker 1: was closed, so I went the next day. And when
Speaker 1: you went in, what, Okay, explain what it's like to
Speaker 1: walk into Beauty Lab and Lazer I want a full
Speaker 1: trip report. Well, I'm I was familiar with this parking lot.
Speaker 1: This parking lot is the area there's like a there
Speaker 1: used to be a sporting goods store. There was the
Speaker 1: like weird, like, uh, teachers supply store where you would
Speaker 1: like go to get things for school supplies or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then there was maybe a Skipper's Fish and Chips
Speaker 1: for a very long time, so I was like familiar,
Speaker 1: gonna put a pin in that because I want to
Speaker 1: go there. Skips, Fish and Chips iconic. The moment I
Speaker 1: saw a beauty lab on the show is like, oh,
Speaker 1: I know that's a very trashy parking lot that that's
Speaker 1: located in. I go there and I pulled up and
Speaker 1: I thought, I'm gonna go in and just act like
Speaker 1: not like I'm not familiar with the show. I just
Speaker 1: want to look at the menu. Uh, let what's happening here?
Speaker 1: I went in and caved immediately. I said, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of the show and I just
Speaker 1: had to come in. And they loved, They were thrilled,
Speaker 1: they were beyond throws. Oh do you want to get
Speaker 1: a picture? Do you want to get a picture. They
Speaker 1: take you right back to the angel wings. You know,
Speaker 1: they have one of those terrible street art angel wings.
Speaker 1: I got my they took my photo. I have sunglasses
Speaker 1: on because their prescription I look insane. Um And then
Speaker 1: I left it. The whole thing felt very like Soviet hospital.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, like they're like I felt like the
Speaker 1: weird little curtains and it just didn't because it feels
Speaker 1: almost medical but not not really, not really, it's beauty.
Speaker 1: So but they were so welcoming and thrilled to half me.
Speaker 1: I've got photos. And then I my sister knew where
Speaker 1: or the whereabouts of like basically where Whitney Rose lives
Speaker 1: because they have like a she lives in this area
Speaker 1: called Daybreak, and it's a very clear maybe where she was.
Speaker 1: My sister, god bless has not seen the show, drove
Speaker 1: me around until we found Whitney's house and I got
Speaker 1: my picture outside of it. Oh my god. So Heather
Speaker 1: was not at beauty Lab and may have been inside,
Speaker 1: but you don't know. Yeah, let's assume she was inside. Sure,
Speaker 1: let's assume she was inside. Was it was the pandemics though,
Speaker 1: And let's assume Heather was doing work, she was blasting
Speaker 1: someone's face or something. Mine one of the uss are curtain.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you do you have a temperature read
Speaker 1: on what Salt Lake City as a community, as a
Speaker 1: municipal community, how they are affected by this show. I
Speaker 1: have a little bit. I feel like there's a decent
Speaker 1: amount of embarrassment. Okay, I feel like practicing Mormons are
Speaker 1: probably annoyed. I think the rest of the experience that
Speaker 1: these women have feels very far removed from Utah in general, right,
Speaker 1: especially like Meredith. I mean, she seems like she's like
Speaker 1: doesn't even live there or right, It's very clear based
Speaker 1: on her Instagram activity that that's the case. Um I
Speaker 1: have I do have. I won't say how they're related
Speaker 1: to me or anything, because I don't know how well
Speaker 1: any of how well Lisa knows them, but I do
Speaker 1: have have someone in my life who has interacted with Lisa,
Speaker 1: and it's not a great report. I also know someone. Again,
Speaker 1: I wish I could give more details, but I always
Speaker 1: is this gonna get me sued? Mary not acting well
Speaker 1: at an event, that's all you and that's all you
Speaker 1: have to say. I don't think on a single event
Speaker 1: depicted on the show, so I don't think that's gonna
Speaker 1: get you sued. I think that she's live BLib bliss
Speaker 1: for bad behavior at events. Right. Uh. I wish I
Speaker 1: really wish I could tell more about this. I will say,
Speaker 1: like also things about bills not getting paid that kind
Speaker 1: of I hear. I think, you know, when I started
Speaker 1: talking about on Instagram, like people from high school or
Speaker 1: whatever would reach out and be like, oh, this this person.
Speaker 1: Like we almost had to call collections on this sort
Speaker 1: of thing. So it's like, oh, people, they're in the community,
Speaker 1: and they are probably all terrible, although I kind of
Speaker 1: love them. I'm hitting I'm I'm I'm hitting critical mass
Speaker 1: with Mary. Unfortunately, I'm like, I don't know how much
Speaker 1: longer I can watch this. She's got a big episode
Speaker 1: this week. I'm gonna tell you, like, she's completely unhinged.
Speaker 1: It's really dark, and I think it's gonna get darker.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, guys what you think about Jenny,
Speaker 1: because I think she just seems like the most normal
Speaker 1: person who has been sucked into this. It's like, how
Speaker 1: did It's like she stumbled into the show and she
Speaker 1: doesn't belong there. She's just a nice she has a
Speaker 1: healthy normal Well the husbands, but they seem otherwise. They're
Speaker 1: doing science projects at home or whatever, and then there's
Speaker 1: never any drama drama other than like where the ski resort. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you you have to have a baby,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to marry someone else. There you go, Bridger,
Speaker 1: It's that there's there doesn't seem to be any drama
Speaker 1: because I don't think there is, and I honestly think
Speaker 1: this stuff with her husband is a little it smells
Speaker 1: a little manufacturer to me, which is crazy because she's
Speaker 1: truly like the fish are nibbling at her legs and
Speaker 1: she's talking about her and the miscarriage just like this.
Speaker 1: It's not something you should be pressured into talking about.
Speaker 1: We're not we're not high on Jenny and we don't
Speaker 1: know it's too bad. And like I hate to I
Speaker 1: do agree with you on everything you've said, Bridger, And
Speaker 1: it feels like I don't mean to say this in
Speaker 1: a way that like to frame it in terms of belonging,
Speaker 1: because that's like a touchy sort of thing to throw
Speaker 1: out there when it comes to like I don't mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to go here, but like an Asian person,
Speaker 1: feeling belonging anywhere is tough, like in this country, but
Speaker 1: like on the show, it's tough because it feels like
Speaker 1: there is this effort and it's a little sweaty. And
Speaker 1: then I to make this comparison, I'm making this comparison
Speaker 1: rhetorically to like a Crystal Kung Minkoff, for example, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's there's just like it's it's not that
Speaker 1: it's it's not that it's an Asian thing, and it's
Speaker 1: more that, like I think Jenny's probably, like you said,
Speaker 1: just like a lovely, normal person who has wonder as
Speaker 1: a really interesting backstory, but like is otherwise pretty well
Speaker 1: adjusted and then kind of has to like do the
Speaker 1: reality show persona drag that like I think jen Shaw does,
Speaker 1: but then oh wait, she's actually a despicable person like that.
Speaker 1: It's horrifying to me if it's true or not true.
Speaker 1: So if it's true that her husband Dewey is saying
Speaker 1: to her on camera for the first time, I want
Speaker 1: to have children, despite the fact that you've had nine
Speaker 1: mischaracters and a still birth and you are in your
Speaker 1: forties and your body is not able to have children.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to me. You should have a baby,
Speaker 1: and if you don't want to have one, we should
Speaker 1: introduce another woman into our mayor into our relationship. If
Speaker 1: it's actually true that that is happening on the show
Speaker 1: and it's unfolding as real drama, that's awful. And if
Speaker 1: they're faking it, it's also awful. And it's either true
Speaker 1: or it isn't, so it's bad either way. She I
Speaker 1: wish she could have just had a normal life. I
Speaker 1: feel like this, who forever one a normal life? Can
Speaker 1: say a rural culture number eleven. I wish normal life.
Speaker 1: That's all I really want for everyone. They seem so
Speaker 1: it seems like a happy family. Well on this episode,
Speaker 1: like she does, Mary doesn't invite her to her Italian
Speaker 1: cooking lesson. So they're at home and it's literally this
Speaker 1: is the scene. It's Jenny in the kitchen like washing
Speaker 1: her hands to cook, and her children are like the
Speaker 1: Von Traps. They come in one by one, Mommy, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Can I help you cook? Well? Yes,
Speaker 1: I was planning on making dinner, of course. Well let
Speaker 1: me just again my hands washed and clean as well
Speaker 1: so that I can help. Okay, wonderful. The next kid
Speaker 1: comes in, Hey, are you guys cooking in here together?
Speaker 1: Might I joined absolutely wash her hands and it's just like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? That's the show I want?
Speaker 1: I guess that show all right. Well, before before we
Speaker 1: drop into the outer darkness, that is talking about only
Speaker 1: this show on this podcast and don't test us. Um,
Speaker 1: we should ask the question that we ask all of
Speaker 1: our guests, Bridger, what was the culture that made you? Say?
Speaker 1: Culture is for you? So this is basically asking what
Speaker 1: was the culture that sort of made you into the
Speaker 1: person that you are. This could be popular culture, film, television, music, theater, etcetera,
Speaker 1: damps or just general culture. What's it for you if
Speaker 1: you're looking back and assessing, I will say the what
Speaker 1: my family zero God bless my parents, terrible taste, both
Speaker 1: of my older brothers, zero taste, no peek into the
Speaker 1: outside world. The only tiny peek I head into anything
Speaker 1: was that, for some reason, my parents watched Letterman, which
Speaker 1: is so out of the for them. Um, which truly
Speaker 1: like Letterman was kind of how I was introduced to
Speaker 1: Amy Sedaris, which became Strangers with Candy, And that the
Speaker 1: fact that if that didn't exist, I would probably be
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the Great Salt Lake or something.
Speaker 1: It's uh, truly that tiny because there was no other culture.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, zero, yeah, So that I don't great answer. Oh,
Speaker 1: I love that. I want to know that what was
Speaker 1: life filled with if there wasn't like culture and like
Speaker 1: arts like video games. Okay, okay, great video games were
Speaker 1: a nice safe entry into which led to the Internet,
Speaker 1: which is another like that was another little peek into
Speaker 1: the world, right was it like StarCraft? Like battle that stuff?
Speaker 1: And then you were like you learned how this all
Speaker 1: worked with a Diablo to like what like, like the
Speaker 1: internet is important. It was early looking up Mario sixty
Speaker 1: before they before the N sexy four was announced, because
Speaker 1: that was a launch title. That was a launch title,
Speaker 1: and I one of the most mortifying experiences I had
Speaker 1: as I don't know, six or seventh grader was I
Speaker 1: was so obsessed reading about Mario that my sister's friend
Speaker 1: Ashley called, and I answered the phone Mario, and I thought,
Speaker 1: now everyone knows I'm a nerd. I would think it
Speaker 1: was the secret was out. Uh but yeah Mario, which
Speaker 1: led into I still think so much about video games
Speaker 1: despite the fact that I played maybe two a year.
Speaker 1: I'm the same way. I'm the same way. I don't
Speaker 1: play them with the sort of I don't know availability though, Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: like I wish I played more, but I think about
Speaker 1: them all the time. Yeah I don't. I guess it's
Speaker 1: just a disease. I'll live with until I die. The
Speaker 1: fact that like a seventy five I'll be thinking about
Speaker 1: video games feels far fetched, But here we are. Was
Speaker 1: it um? And then what would talk about? I have
Speaker 1: such indelible memories of I wasn't even playing Mario sixty four.
Speaker 1: I was just watching someone else do it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, this is right there, not even that. It
Speaker 1: wasn't even my sister was like other kids, like other
Speaker 1: kids in the neighborhood and be like this, this is insane. Well,
Speaker 1: graphically that was like a new frontier. It was a
Speaker 1: whole new thing. Yeah, I mean it was. It is
Speaker 1: like it was like a giant shift in the way
Speaker 1: anything worked for as far as computers went right, absolutely
Speaker 1: as far as as far as video games went in
Speaker 1: terms of like three D motion, it was like and
Speaker 1: then just I mean to think about, like I think
Speaker 1: all the time about how they got it so right
Speaker 1: in that game genius to be like, Okay, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be at the castle, but then you jump into these
Speaker 1: paintings to go into the level like genius. That would
Speaker 1: still work today. That's still like that is still innovative today,
Speaker 1: and that is crazy to me. I don't know, be
Speaker 1: right out of the gate in a medium and do
Speaker 1: it right feels wild to me. It's like landing the
Speaker 1: Mars Rovere. It's like you have like a one square
Speaker 1: inch of terrain to land on and you've gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta landed just right. And where did you feel? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you feel that way about Zelda? Of course? I
Speaker 1: mean just completely Banjo Kazoo Banjo, it's underrated banjom ZOOI
Speaker 1: actually doesn't get talked about. Also, I mean I feel
Speaker 1: like Kazoo is a very gay I mean they're both
Speaker 1: very gay characters. There's kind of the sassy bird and
Speaker 1: the like Banjo is kind of sexy, he's got nothing
Speaker 1: but short kind of just he's a hot bear. Also like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but can I just stick up from my
Speaker 1: girl Donkey Kong because I feel like gets the shaft
Speaker 1: And I'm really excited because Super Nintendo World is getting
Speaker 1: there's gonna be Donkey Kong roller coasters in them, so
Speaker 1: we're not just doing first thought like oh it's Super
Speaker 1: Nintendo World and it's gonna be Mario, only Donkey Kong
Speaker 1: will be represented and it matters, So am I with
Speaker 1: Donkey Kong? People? If that roller coaster isn't a mine card,
Speaker 1: then the whole thing should be shut down. And let
Speaker 1: me tell you something, Bridger, you're gonna be excited. Guess what.
Speaker 1: It's a mine cut rollercoaster, babe, and it jumps the track.
Speaker 1: Oh that can't well, then I guess you're gonna eat
Speaker 1: your goddamn hat. All right, that's gonna be can't possibly
Speaker 1: jump the track? That is the look it up because
Speaker 1: guess what, it's gonna appear to jump the track, but
Speaker 1: there's gonna be the track underneath the track. There's gonna
Speaker 1: be a track underneath the track, So there's gonna be
Speaker 1: like a single rail track and then quote unquote track
Speaker 1: and it's gonna appear to jump the track very much though,
Speaker 1: a perfect illusion. I don't like that. I think they
Speaker 1: should commit or it's a binary thing either. What are
Speaker 1: they don't wants to be soaring through the air in
Speaker 1: a mine card? Potentially? Yeah, they're making a movie with
Speaker 1: Donkey Kong. Is that right? We can't let these characters talk.
Speaker 1: It's you know what it is. It's that thing of
Speaker 1: it's like all the Nintendo characters together and so now
Speaker 1: Chris Pratt is Mario and so they announced the cast
Speaker 1: for this like Mario movie, and I was like, the
Speaker 1: casting is all over the place. I felt like Chris
Speaker 1: Pratt should have been Donkey Kong and I was like,
Speaker 1: just the casting was literally all over the place. Any
Speaker 1: teller Joy is Peach, which I loved, and the rest
Speaker 1: of it. All the Mail characters were like Jack Black
Speaker 1: should not be that one. He should be this one,
Speaker 1: that one, the other one. But you know who's Jack Black?
Speaker 1: We could pull up cares. I mean, Mario was in
Speaker 1: the conversation. I do want to talk about Letterman for
Speaker 1: a bit, but let's just up, okay. Um. I mean
Speaker 1: I feel like for us, for us, you know, friends
Speaker 1: of Dorothy whatever, Like the Sedaris interviews were always like
Speaker 1: just such a moment, you know, just the best television
Speaker 1: I could watch, the best television and like every I
Speaker 1: mean like I like I remember them specifically, like the
Speaker 1: ones she came on went because she would just like
Speaker 1: they would just call her up when like a guest
Speaker 1: would drop out and she's like run up the street.
Speaker 1: And then you know, like Dwayne Wade was there, and
Speaker 1: then she had this whole thing, dude, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about where she was like and then like
Speaker 1: she would like promote. She promoted the Streets of the
Speaker 1: Kenny movie, which felt like a beautiful moment because like
Speaker 1: she actually had something to promote. Um. She would always
Speaker 1: have a new dress, which I think would be purchased
Speaker 1: with the money from the previous appearance, which she would
Speaker 1: talk about like uh, being a waiter, things like this.
Speaker 1: It just everything she did was perfect. She would give tour.
Speaker 1: I feel like she gave a tour of her neighborhood
Speaker 1: at one point that was just a huh. I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like there is something about Letterman like would
Speaker 1: work today despite all of like the culture being pulled
Speaker 1: in a million different directions. But like he was he
Speaker 1: was the person who was able to pull off being
Speaker 1: an asshole in the way that like you could say
Speaker 1: that like Larry David does now, but like for like
Speaker 1: his person as a late night host was so so right,
Speaker 1: even though he was like a jerk and like and
Speaker 1: has like shitty opinions of course, but like you like
Speaker 1: you could tell that, like it's like the only person
Speaker 1: like Tina Fey would like love to go on and
Speaker 1: like like she like prepare stuff for him, um, and
Speaker 1: then like the Paris Hilton interview. I unfortunately think that
Speaker 1: it is still like it's it's humiliating for her obviously,
Speaker 1: and it's like not, yeah, but why did she go
Speaker 1: on that? It's like you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: I understand it's painful for her now, but it's like ultimately,
Speaker 1: like who, why would you book her on that show?
Speaker 1: It's gonna be nice. I just I just that that
Speaker 1: is like people can come for me. I think that
Speaker 1: is one of the funniest moments in late night TV
Speaker 1: at the time. Paris was like courting negative attention and
Speaker 1: sort of like loving it and like I don't know,
Speaker 1: like doing pretty despicable things. Not that that like calls
Speaker 1: for her humiliation on like a late night show, but
Speaker 1: like I just feel like this is not like she's
Speaker 1: not completely a victim in this scenario unfortunately, and I
Speaker 1: feel like Dave was just kind of having fun with her,
Speaker 1: Like can I just say this is so I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to make this about me, but like when when An Andrews'
Speaker 1: and I were writing The Iceberg we Can Update, we
Speaker 1: were just we were basing it off of that interview.
Speaker 1: Someone someone who is uncomfortable does not want to talk
Speaker 1: about something and it's trying to deflect its being like
Speaker 1: I'm actually here to talk about something else. Like that
Speaker 1: was what we based it on. Like we were like,
Speaker 1: we have to study this, we have to really study this,
Speaker 1: and like this is how we're going to write it.
Speaker 1: And I and I watched that back last year and
Speaker 1: I was like, this is, of course uncomfortable, but like
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like when the guy cheers like love
Speaker 1: you Parish, she goes love you too, and then Letterman,
Speaker 1: without missing a bi goes someone you met in prison
Speaker 1: and the audience just erupts. Also like no one noticed that,
Speaker 1: Like no late night host is doing. Mean, you know,
Speaker 1: they're all the nicest guys in the world. Like it's
Speaker 1: so it is so race to the finished kindness that
Speaker 1: you kind of miss that edge because it's and it's
Speaker 1: almost like I wonder if there's something where they feel
Speaker 1: like they can't do it because they don't feel like
Speaker 1: they can touch him, you know, But then what are
Speaker 1: we watching? I mean, Cordon, what are we talking about?
Speaker 1: The nice And also Paris was not the first person
Speaker 1: that Letterman was mean to, Like if she was his
Speaker 1: first target, it'd be like I don't know, no, but
Speaker 1: like I feel like Kimmel. Kimmel does a great job.
Speaker 1: I think so too, as real. I feel like he
Speaker 1: does everything you can to make it a real interview
Speaker 1: and between two human beings rather than playing a game
Speaker 1: or whatever we're doing on these other things exactly. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure I feel like people who work there like
Speaker 1: come out like, I don't know, really enjoying that experience.
Speaker 1: I worked there, and yeah, yeah, he's the night He
Speaker 1: is an actually nice person. So he's just a real
Speaker 1: person on television rather than the reverse of what I
Speaker 1: think is happening on other shows. All right, so this
Speaker 1: is this is the Mario voice cast, and let's see
Speaker 1: if you agree with me that this is wrong, not
Speaker 1: that these people shouldn't be in the movie, just that
Speaker 1: it should be switched around. Chris Pratt is playing Mario.
Speaker 1: I have a problem with this based on based on
Speaker 1: voice casting only, and yet is Peach sure, Charlie Day
Speaker 1: is Luigi, Seth Rogan is Donkey Kong Keegan, Michael Key
Speaker 1: is Told, and Jack Black is Bowser. Correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Seth Rogan should be Bowser. He's got the
Speaker 1: gravelly voice like and also Bowser's number one thing is
Speaker 1: that he's a comedic genius. I feel like, like not
Speaker 1: that Jack Black isn't literally hilarious, but I feel like
Speaker 1: Jack Black is giving me more honestly Donkey Kong. I
Speaker 1: feel like Charlie Day Brogan should be Charlie Day should
Speaker 1: be Mario. I was gonna say, yeah, that works, Kegan
Speaker 1: should be Luigi. I think they gotta bring it someone
Speaker 1: new for Toad. I don't know who that kicks off.
Speaker 1: I'd say, you know what, maybe Chris Pratt would be
Speaker 1: a funny Toad, but I don't get Keegan Michael Keef
Speaker 1: for Toad, Like, what's the take? Now? You need a
Speaker 1: bri not that Kegan doesn't have an Charlie Dave should
Speaker 1: be told, Charlie Day should be told. Oh, interesting choice. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're saying Chris should be Bowser, Chris Donkey Kong. Jack
Speaker 1: Black should be Mario, Keegan should be Luigi, Seth should
Speaker 1: be Bowser, and Charlie Day should be I don't know what. No,
Speaker 1: Charlie Day should be told, that's it period. Charlie Dave
Speaker 1: is Toad makes sense to me, perfect sense. None of
Speaker 1: these characters should have voices. At should be a silent film.
Speaker 1: It should be you know she on the sheep, the artist,
Speaker 1: the artist. Yes, I mean it should be. It's going
Speaker 1: to be really unsettling to hear them say more than
Speaker 1: four words. I mean, like to me. The longest Peach
Speaker 1: has ever spoken aloud in real life is at the
Speaker 1: beginning of Mario sixty four when she's like, please come
Speaker 1: to my castle for a cup of tea or whatever.
Speaker 1: She mostly says oh. She mostly says oh. She says
Speaker 1: a variety of things throughout Mario Kart. She wrote that
Speaker 1: beautiful letter at the beginning of Mario sixty four, and
Speaker 1: then she's screaming, and she's screaming when she goes into
Speaker 1: the water and Toad, I usually I'm Toad, and so
Speaker 1: you get a lot of wow, and you get a
Speaker 1: lot of like a lot of that ship, which I
Speaker 1: kind of love. And I just feel like that is
Speaker 1: Charlie's day energy and the and the Toad scream, the
Speaker 1: Toad effort or whatever. That people don't talk about enough
Speaker 1: is how about amazing? Amazing? So dropped in some of
Speaker 1: the best sounds. Did you ever play Super Mario Galaxy?
Speaker 1: Did this? If there's a new Mario game, I'll play it.
Speaker 1: You play honestly, I feel like I should revisit because
Speaker 1: people like really wrote that off pretty quickly. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's good. I just I just could have played it
Speaker 1: and I finished it in like two days, and so
Speaker 1: like I have no memory of it. But I feel
Speaker 1: like if I were to start again or try to
Speaker 1: get all the moons, I think I would like really
Speaker 1: enjoy it. It's delightful. There's the you know, the nightclub singer.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just Bizar paul right, paul she's the
Speaker 1: mayor and the nightclub singer, Matt. You would die for Pauline.
Speaker 1: She's she's in a red dress. She's the mayor of
Speaker 1: New Donk City, New Donk City, don And there's this
Speaker 1: whole segment once you beat that world where she sings
Speaker 1: this beautiful jazz song. As you like, as you as
Speaker 1: Mario like jump around Sky's papers, you turn into a
Speaker 1: two D version of yourself eight that version of Mario
Speaker 1: taking coins. Well, this gorgeous the most beautiful song you've
Speaker 1: ever heard in the world plays and there's fireworks. It's
Speaker 1: in the night sky, one of the most beautiful. I
Speaker 1: genuinely believe, like a lovely moment in video games, truely
Speaker 1: it feels like like a monument. Yes, I want to
Speaker 1: drive into New York. I want to drive into New
Speaker 1: York City with that song just blaring. Yes. Yes, I
Speaker 1: always play like it's I'm so fucking stupid and basic.
Speaker 1: But it's like a college thing that we used to
Speaker 1: do when we would drive back in the city. We
Speaker 1: play the boys are back in town. It's very eight,
Speaker 1: like you're you're nineteen years old, but like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to try that next time. Another good choice when you're
Speaker 1: returning home is uh, MAXI nightingales, right back where we
Speaker 1: started from. Oh, perfect end of a road trip song.
Speaker 1: Perfect song, perfect song. I have something to ask you.
Speaker 1: You might have already talked about this on Homophilia with
Speaker 1: Matt mcconky and Dave Holmes. Bites, Um your Weezer connection.
Speaker 1: I feel like we can both relate to on a
Speaker 1: deep level, right Matt, Yeah? Are you both Weezer people? Yeah? So,
Speaker 1: I I'm sort of lame because I I came to
Speaker 1: them late when they when they went pop, so like, um,
Speaker 1: your daddy, I was like, who's this part of the problem?
Speaker 1: I know a big time but that's sort of Micross
Speaker 1: the bad I'm your daddy. Was that the Red album
Speaker 1: or is that gratitude? I feel like that's gratitude. That's
Speaker 1: where I get blurry. Yeah, that's where a lot of
Speaker 1: people get blurry. But I feel like you were I
Speaker 1: think you were saying that, like Weezer was your first
Speaker 1: sort of like latch key out of this like cultural desolation.
Speaker 1: That was I got the Blue album at Walmart. I
Speaker 1: think eighth or ninth grade would put it on repeat
Speaker 1: while I played I hate to return to video games.
Speaker 1: But Wave Race before four hours? Oh my god. Uh
Speaker 1: and that was the first like that. Yeah, led to
Speaker 1: other music and then too unfortunately Pitchfork and all this nonsense.
Speaker 1: We've all been there. What what can I say? Rivers
Speaker 1: Cuomo defined how men who read dress basically maybe for
Speaker 1: the rest of time. Yeah, he was definitive. He is.
Speaker 1: He is an aesthetic icon, that's for sure. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm hooked. I'm trapped unfortunately, and whatever their cycle is,
Speaker 1: do you find him attractive? No? Got it? I will
Speaker 1: say before Andrew Cuomo, before the Cuomo sexual For Andrew Cuomo,
Speaker 1: there were there were gay Weezer fans who identified as
Speaker 1: Cuomo sexuals. Rough from that right, yep. So rough, but
Speaker 1: I've never found Rivers attractive. Really, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: part of like, that's part of the the appeal for
Speaker 1: some people, and they're like, oh, this like guy who reads,
Speaker 1: that's perfect. He's very cute. He's like cute in the
Speaker 1: way like uh, Sanrio characters cute. He's Butts Marou, He's Carabie,
Speaker 1: He's the frog. That's adorable. Honestly, I would like to
Speaker 1: see Rivers in in the Mario movie. I think Rivers
Speaker 1: would be an interesting toad. To be honest, he's gonna
Speaker 1: I guarantee he's gonna end up in the movie. I
Speaker 1: think that would be good. But this is interesting. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about this Rivers Cuomo is cute that I think
Speaker 1: like is Unfortunately what everything else is built around this
Speaker 1: idea that like he is this Peter pan Um, what's
Speaker 1: that movie that Robin Williams is in when he doesn't
Speaker 1: grow up? Hook, Hook Baby? What we're talking about? No, No,
Speaker 1: it's not that he never grows up. Is that he
Speaker 1: grows so fast fast jack. That's right, that's right, grows
Speaker 1: up in doubly fast. And is that a Coppola movie? Um? Yes,
Speaker 1: I think I think it is. And I think it's
Speaker 1: one of Jlo's first role. She plays the teacher. What
Speaker 1: oh God? And Diane Lane, isn't it And of course Diane.
Speaker 1: We can't forget about Diane anyway. This is you please.
Speaker 1: While you're doing that, River, I think he's like really
Speaker 1: leaned in a little too hard to the point of
Speaker 1: no return, where he's like, I will I might be
Speaker 1: in my mid forties, but I will not ever leave
Speaker 1: the state of mind of being like a twenty two
Speaker 1: year old. I have been thinking about this recently, and
Speaker 1: I think female songwriter's age so much better than male songwriters. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: like the wisdom actually continues to come out in the songs.
Speaker 1: Male songwriters become famous when they're twenty three and then
Speaker 1: state twenty three until they die, with the rare few
Speaker 1: rare exceptions. You're so right, absolutely like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's here. What's your relationship with Taylor Wait, Taylor?
Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm so embarrassed right now. Taylor Swift. I
Speaker 1: like to call her Taylor, I Taylor. I appreciate Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift like I appreciate like an Apple store, where it's
Speaker 1: like it's pristine, every detail has been poured, the money
Speaker 1: has been poured into make this perfect for everyone. No
Speaker 1: one will be uncomfortable with this, sure, but it makes
Speaker 1: it difficult for me to access on an emotional level.
Speaker 1: I would say that she's she sort of supports your
Speaker 1: argument here where it's like even someone like Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: who got so famous at a young age, can still
Speaker 1: develop in a healthy way as an artist, whereas now
Speaker 1: she's writing songs in this very mature way. Like I
Speaker 1: just feel like that never happened, almost never happens with
Speaker 1: male artists, like like down to like you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, like maybe like the one person I can
Speaker 1: think of weirdly off the top of my head is
Speaker 1: like Robert Plant. It's like, oh, you made like a
Speaker 1: fun like you made a fun album with Alison Krause,
Speaker 1: Like good for you. That is true, It's like you
Speaker 1: you kind of you kind of get the feeling that
Speaker 1: maybe John Mayer was best when he first came out,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. This is a really interesting theory, Bridger.
Speaker 1: I think I could be wrong. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: you are frequently constantly wrong. But I don't know the
Speaker 1: evidence is there. You have not shown any evidence so
Speaker 1: far in this podcast that you've ever been wrong, because
Speaker 1: we only know you on this podcast so far, and
Speaker 1: you've got to be wrong. So your your allegation that
Speaker 1: you've been wrong in the past is one that I
Speaker 1: can't I certainly don't recognize you in the last twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to shotgun blast of misinformation, just spreading.
Speaker 1: You know, do you want to say, do you want
Speaker 1: to start what? What? What? What propaganda? Do you want
Speaker 1: to say? I have no propaganda. I actually feel like
Speaker 1: even joking about propaganda this point plants the seeds and
Speaker 1: stupid people's heads and they're like, well it was said aloud,
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll look into this. I feel like the Internet, know,
Speaker 1: like how you plan a plant will only grow as
Speaker 1: big as the pot. I feel like your brain can
Speaker 1: be the Internet is this bottomless pot for stupidity, Like
Speaker 1: your stupidity has no limits with the Internet, you can
Speaker 1: be as dumb as you want. M M. I feel
Speaker 1: like the Internet is the plant, and it can only
Speaker 1: extend as far as our brains go. You know, like
Speaker 1: there is where we're hitting. We've hit the ceiling years ago.
Speaker 1: That's where the metaverse comes in. I don't understand how well.
Speaker 1: In fact, I literally I literally saw I think it
Speaker 1: was like I saw like a screenshot of a of
Speaker 1: an article about what Meta was, and I literally was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not not No, only am I not reading this,
Speaker 1: I'm never finding out what this is. I am not engaging.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, I am not engaging
Speaker 1: with Meta or Zacher. But why do you say you
Speaker 1: will you will? You will? Is it going to be
Speaker 1: come undeniable? Because it's yes, I'm saying, sadly not at me,
Speaker 1: both of you, sadly out at me. It's going to happen.
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. Matt. You can't you can't put you alone,
Speaker 1: cannot beat back this tide. And it's unfortunate. It's so sad.
Speaker 1: When I saw him standing with a little cartoon of
Speaker 1: himself and he had that stupid smile on his face
Speaker 1: and unfortunately he's got like a fat ass, I was like,
Speaker 1: get the hell out of here. It's one of the
Speaker 1: rules of culture. It's really culture number thirties five. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: he's had a dunk on him. And let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. No, I don't like it at all. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you don't want a fat ass on Mark Zucker he's
Speaker 1: got a fat ass, though, And I remember he turned
Speaker 1: around looked at himself as a cartoon, and I said, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: he's got a fat ass, and I looked at it.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I was aroused. I'm saying I looked down. Okay, Okay, Matt.
Speaker 1: You can't deny that you will know about Meta at
Speaker 1: some point, very very sort of thoroughly. And Bridger can't
Speaker 1: deny that Zuckerberg has a fat as I I won't
Speaker 1: deny it, but I guarantee it's hideous. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it's like milk white and like pocked, like
Speaker 1: one of those deep sea fish, you know that's like
Speaker 1: so far into the darkness that it begins to glow
Speaker 1: and like pulse sate. It's the outer darkness, Mark Dr
Speaker 1: Brooks is the outer darkness, and in the most white
Speaker 1: way possible. There's no natural selection for beauty or esthetics
Speaker 1: because there's no light that shines on it gets all
Speaker 1: the time to like not to like, well, actually has
Speaker 1: to absolutely shame because he's literally ruining the world. But
Speaker 1: I feel like every time I see him, it's more Voldemort,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He is like not aging,
Speaker 1: but not in like a good way, when you're like
Speaker 1: there's just something he's it's a stasis rather than that's it,
Speaker 1: it's it's, it's, it's it's being Yeah, just sort of
Speaker 1: like decurred. I don't know, I don't know. Oh, favorite
Speaker 1: Weezer album before we move on those first two I think,
Speaker 1: I you know, the song Tired of Sex is still
Speaker 1: that and Get You are two of my favorite songs ever.
Speaker 1: At least they're so dirty sounding you were singing about
Speaker 1: being tired of having sex. The vocals on Tired of
Speaker 1: Sex are so sassy and weird for like a straight band.
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's something very I don't know. And
Speaker 1: the B sides, the B side perfect music, I mean, god,
Speaker 1: it's just there there. Now you just gotta really dig
Speaker 1: for the gems. Like I think there's some great songs
Speaker 1: on Everything's going to Be all Right in the end,
Speaker 1: decent album. It feels like they're turning things around and
Speaker 1: then and then now and then now. I feel like
Speaker 1: those first two albums are like next level any for
Speaker 1: any type of music, any type of music you put
Speaker 1: it on today, it still works. Like it's great that
Speaker 1: they're very loud, they're very noisy and dirty sounding, and
Speaker 1: then we're after that, I think occasionally is a good
Speaker 1: power pop band. Well you were, you were? You were
Speaker 1: in the Beverly Hills music video. Oh my god, and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I was. I was. My sister and I
Speaker 1: were in it. And the Playboy Mansion. All I remember
Speaker 1: is that it felt very poorly taken care of. The
Speaker 1: grass looked terrible. There was bird ship everywhere it was.
Speaker 1: It was shot the Playboy Mansion. No, I know that,
Speaker 1: but I can't believe it wasn't maintained. It was. It
Speaker 1: felt like an old person's house, you know, someone who
Speaker 1: was just like didn't have the means to take care
Speaker 1: of it. It was very dingy. Hugh found dead, found dead.
Speaker 1: I could find him dead now if you want. You know,
Speaker 1: you know that we announced that he died on this podcast,
Speaker 1: and then we had to dory record because he wasn't
Speaker 1: dead yet. And then he died four months later. And
Speaker 1: then he died four months later, but we heard that
Speaker 1: he died, announced that he was dead, and then when
Speaker 1: we had to ascend, we ever spend that announcement. Wait,
Speaker 1: who gave you the information that he had died? Matt?
Speaker 1: I remember Matt finding it like looking at it on
Speaker 1: Twitter being like, oh my god, all these tweets are saying,
Speaker 1: Hugh Hefner is dead. We have to, like, we have
Speaker 1: to talk about it. It's culturally we have we have
Speaker 1: to talk about it. Respond, we have to What was
Speaker 1: the time spend between your recording and releasing the episode?
Speaker 1: I think by the end, by the time we stopped recording,
Speaker 1: I like looked into it for maybe two seconds and
Speaker 1: was like, he's not But but we had but we
Speaker 1: had to do. We had to go back and re
Speaker 1: record and be like, hey, just so you guys know,
Speaker 1: like we're about you're about to listen to an episode
Speaker 1: that talks in depth about the life and death Hugh Hefner.
Speaker 1: We have to say before if this is the first
Speaker 1: Peter Smith episode. Everyone but we we literally I think,
Speaker 1: did a hard fifteen minutes on his death. But on
Speaker 1: the top we said, hey, just kidding about the next
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. There was no way of cutting around it,
Speaker 1: so desperate, scoop desperate. I will say, last thoughts, I
Speaker 1: feel like we ever get to talk about Weezer on
Speaker 1: this podcast. Make believe that album that Beverly holdses on
Speaker 1: has some great songs on it as well. I think
Speaker 1: the production doesn't do it any favors. Sure, absolutely sounds terrible. Uh,
Speaker 1: some of the songs are catchy, the lyrics are horrible,
Speaker 1: but I mean post two thousand with Weezer, what are
Speaker 1: you gonna get? Post Green album, It's like it's tough
Speaker 1: right then Red album had some interesting things. Um and yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll scorch O on Pinkerton is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: songs of all time. It sounds fantastic. I feel like
Speaker 1: there was a period when Rivers Green album Maladroit was
Speaker 1: recording nonsense lyrics, which he got a lot of ship for.
Speaker 1: But I would much prefer the lyrics to be just
Speaker 1: absolute stream of conscient consciousness rather than like trying to
Speaker 1: sound like a teenager in love. I don't need a
Speaker 1: fifty year old man singing about being in love and
Speaker 1: going to the mall. You are my baby, and of
Speaker 1: the worst, it's one of the best. They have a
Speaker 1: song on that album. They have a song on Ratitude
Speaker 1: called the Girl Got Hot. It's so like this girl
Speaker 1: from high school who didn't look that good Now she's hot.
Speaker 1: Can you believe it? Does that make you look at
Speaker 1: all the work before the hand and be like, maybe
Speaker 1: we were wrong because they're trusting to this, or do
Speaker 1: you think it was ironic? I think it's just that
Speaker 1: person had a genuine mental break and we're watching a
Speaker 1: new person operating the world. So it's sort of like
Speaker 1: when was like fining a hordes And would you say
Speaker 1: that Jewel was a different person after that? That was
Speaker 1: the inflection point. Absolutely can't find the job. I forgot
Speaker 1: about pop O three oh four. It certainly wasn't foolish games. Sure, sure,
Speaker 1: I think it's time, Matt. I think it might be
Speaker 1: time before I can even start to get intil the
Speaker 1: list fair of it all, because that's that's that's turning
Speaker 1: to pop the right way, because why can't I is
Speaker 1: actually one of the best pop songs ever. And that
Speaker 1: was ironic and you could tell in a fun way,
Speaker 1: but in a fun way, in a in a fun
Speaker 1: way where she was like, I mean, I can do this.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't it be hilarious if I had a huge
Speaker 1: fucking pop hit that was in the trailer for every
Speaker 1: rom com like watch when I do pop better than
Speaker 1: any pop girl? And I was fair, I have been
Speaker 1: and will be. I think it's iconic I mean people
Speaker 1: like I remember that Pitchfork rating was that like a
Speaker 1: zero point now and then recently when Pitchfork released that
Speaker 1: like new batch of like these are are edited, these
Speaker 1: there are changed scores. Sure they did that for some
Speaker 1: ways or album I forget which, but then with that one,
Speaker 1: with that list Fair album, they were like we were
Speaker 1: we were being such smug assholes. No kidding, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, they got the pylon they deserved
Speaker 1: when they came out with that, they were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: fucky and like, I'm like Charlie xc X god Bluster
Speaker 1: was like l ow, like no one understood room Room
Speaker 1: when she first started breaking with Sophie. I remember I
Speaker 1: remember loving loving room Room when no one else did,
Speaker 1: and the quarters our friend made fun of me, and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, this is like really cool and
Speaker 1: new and like innovative. And then everyone's like no, this
Speaker 1: sounds like noise. I'm like, you guys don't get at
Speaker 1: And I feel very vindicated talking about also did not
Speaker 1: It felt like just slightly ahead of the It didn't
Speaker 1: feel like music from space, you know, It's like this
Speaker 1: is just a new pop music. I don't know why
Speaker 1: that was so hard for people to understand. And Charlie
Speaker 1: is she's getting better. She's she is really, I mean,
Speaker 1: she's like I feel like her aestheticallyly, like in the
Speaker 1: Good One music video. I'm like, she looks absolutely stunning,
Speaker 1: Like she was one of those girls where when she
Speaker 1: first came out, I never really understood what you looked.
Speaker 1: I couldn't like see her when I heard her. And
Speaker 1: now it's like I feel like she's crystallizing, which maybe
Speaker 1: which maybe was honestly the point in the beginning, because
Speaker 1: she was sort of like, you know, computerized in a way,
Speaker 1: and now it's sort of like I feel like she's
Speaker 1: crystallizing and like becoming like real to me in a
Speaker 1: way where I'm like, it's really exciting because I've enjoyed
Speaker 1: it for so many years and now i feel like
Speaker 1: I'm getting like what the p o V is? Finally?
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Bo, Well, you're late to the part.
Speaker 1: That's actually fine because at least I'm at the party.
Speaker 1: It's better to be at the party, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Sure, Okay, I will say the way she
Speaker 1: walks in the Good Ones video, it could not I
Speaker 1: mean that song, there's no other way to walk to
Speaker 1: that song other than extremely purposeful power walking, like, yes,
Speaker 1: it's incredible. Do you like to stomp? I like to stomp?
Speaker 1: I didn't know. Well what did you think? I asked?
Speaker 1: And what did you not hear? The question for ten
Speaker 1: other people in this zoom G I love to stomp. Good.
Speaker 1: The next time you see me, I will stomp into
Speaker 1: whatever room you're in. I'm a stomper and people sometimes
Speaker 1: see me on the street and will text me and
Speaker 1: be like, UM, what were you listening to? And I'm like, oh, shoot,
Speaker 1: I wasn't even meaning to stop, but I guess I'm
Speaker 1: just a stomper. I'm a stomper too. I would love
Speaker 1: to see you in person soon if I'm in l A.
Speaker 1: We should do it. We'll figure something out. I'm saving
Speaker 1: all this. I should save all this end chit chat
Speaker 1: for later. Let's do I don't think so, honey. Let's
Speaker 1: let's do it on what I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: There's our segment, in which we each take one minute
Speaker 1: to rail against something in culture. I have something right.
Speaker 1: You want to go No, no, why? Why break from tradition.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go with Matt first. Then I'll go and
Speaker 1: then we'll have Bridger come in. Okay, great, let's just
Speaker 1: get right into it. This is Matt Rodgers is I
Speaker 1: don't think so his time starts now. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Honey sold out? Okay, so there's nothing left for me
Speaker 1: that sucks? I want it. A lot of the best
Speaker 1: things are getting getting sold out lately, so what does
Speaker 1: that mean? Like I can't participate? Sudie Green wanted one
Speaker 1: thing for her birthday. Wendy Ocefo Candle go to the website,
Speaker 1: sold out, s o l ship out of luck. Oftentimes
Speaker 1: some of the best pop stars will announce concerts you
Speaker 1: go to get tickets sold out. Unbelievable. That means you
Speaker 1: can't even go to it. There's not a seat for you.
Speaker 1: All the seats have been bought. It's sold out. Also,
Speaker 1: the expression they quote unquote sold out it has a
Speaker 1: negative connotation when sorry, but that means they're doing absolutely
Speaker 1: incredible And if something is sold doubt a lot of
Speaker 1: people are. They're enjoying it on so I guess they're
Speaker 1: doing something right. Are you sold doubt? No, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of you available and we can hear it. So
Speaker 1: what next thing? I know? I want tickets not sold out.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. You know,
Speaker 1: there's supply chain issues, and there's things are hard to
Speaker 1: buy right now. They're so hard to buy right now.
Speaker 1: And the thing is I just Douglas name said Matt's
Speaker 1: Christmas show. Yes, absolutely sold out. And I feel bad
Speaker 1: because now people are coming out of the woodwork being
Speaker 1: like can I come, and I have to be like, no,
Speaker 1: sold out, And I refused to add more dates because
Speaker 1: my total explode. You hate being on either side of it.
Speaker 1: I don't like the concept of it. That's why I
Speaker 1: said I don't think so, honey. That's why I said
Speaker 1: it Bowen, because I don't like the whole thing. I
Speaker 1: don't like that people can't enjoy. I don't like that
Speaker 1: I can't enjoy. I don't like that. Really, what this
Speaker 1: is about is it's famously birthday season. Everyone knows this.
Speaker 1: It was Bowen's birthday today, Happy birthday, by the way,
Speaker 1: thank you, Ethan. Sudy's birthday is upcoming, and so that
Speaker 1: means it's birthday season for me. In my culture, it's
Speaker 1: birthday season now because it's Bone and Sudy's birthdays. So
Speaker 1: I went to the Wendy Doctor Wendy os Fo Candles
Speaker 1: website Potoma might be my next chap. Yes, I think
Speaker 1: that makes it a total sense. It's very good. Um,
Speaker 1: but study literally said, I only want one thing, and
Speaker 1: it's a doctor Wendy candle, and it's sold out. And
Speaker 1: that just sort of got me really thinking about this
Speaker 1: whole thing of sold out, and I started to get
Speaker 1: more upset the more I thought about it. Oh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a time when something was sold out,
Speaker 1: Bridger that you felt so upset? You two? Last night
Speaker 1: I went into the lost, peless Albertson's for the first
Speaker 1: time since early pandemic, the days where the shelves were empty.
Speaker 1: It was I was genuinely an emotional experience seeing things
Speaker 1: on the shelves. I was like, Oh, I shouldn't start
Speaker 1: crying right now. I moved on in Park last August,
Speaker 1: so I haven't been to that Albertson since it was
Speaker 1: so jarring to be in the Albertson's. Let's just say
Speaker 1: the Hollywood alberts since they have a very right for it.
Speaker 1: They now have line every aisle is a different Los
Speaker 1: Angeles street. This is all part of the model that
Speaker 1: I was not present for but the last time I
Speaker 1: was in there, you know, everyone was rushing around. Couldn't
Speaker 1: get pasta, couldn't get flour. Sold out, the worst sold
Speaker 1: out experience, pandemic and supply shortage. I just had to
Speaker 1: buy my Nieces Mario Kart hot wheels at Target because
Speaker 1: it's for my sister. Ship it to Utah because they couldn't.
Speaker 1: Whoever in Utah has bought it out. Sold out. It's
Speaker 1: a terrible thing to have. Come on. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: If sold out didn't exist, you wouldn't have to experience, right,
Speaker 1: if we just had endless things, no one would have
Speaker 1: to work renewable. We need more renewable resources. It's rule
Speaker 1: culture number forty nine. We need more renewables, says someone.
Speaker 1: Get on this. God, if Jesus was always involved, they
Speaker 1: should be able to figure something out. This is so
Speaker 1: interesting because I have deliberately avoided the Trader Joe's that
Speaker 1: I went to on March eleven before they announced New
Speaker 1: York City was unlockdown. I remember going to this Trader
Speaker 1: Joe's in Tribeca and it was the bleakest place. It
Speaker 1: was the bleakest New Yor experience I've ever had where
Speaker 1: it was just like, oh, there's hundreds of people here,
Speaker 1: nothing's on the shelves, everyone's panicked, and like this is
Speaker 1: this is the saddest experience I've had in this city.
Speaker 1: And then I've never gone back, and I don't think
Speaker 1: I ever will. Don't return. Yeah, ye had trauma, But
Speaker 1: unless I have an experience like Bridger where I go
Speaker 1: back and I see things and I'm like, wow, this
Speaker 1: is what I've this is the closure I needed. It
Speaker 1: might be it also is kind of a you know,
Speaker 1: it's just a jolt to the system, just a little spark,
Speaker 1: like a weird emotional spark you're not gonna find anywhere else.
Speaker 1: That's the place for it. If I want to feel
Speaker 1: something right, It's like seeing a dead loved one brought
Speaker 1: back to life. I think that's as close as you're
Speaker 1: gonna get. It's going to when people die, they're sold out.
Speaker 1: That's a little culture. When people die out, we're out
Speaker 1: of this item. We're out of this. When people die,
Speaker 1: you can't find him anywhere. So my daughter wants one
Speaker 1: for Christmas. Sold out a grandma this year. Anyways, Bowen,
Speaker 1: I don't have my phone because it's charging. Do you
Speaker 1: mind sort of timing yourself because I'm actually like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what When you said you had so honey,
Speaker 1: I got the chills. I was so excited. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna be that good. I'm it's not going to be great.
Speaker 1: It's just I happen to be prepared for once. That's
Speaker 1: all less excited. Now, okay, can you can you announce
Speaker 1: for me? This is Bowen Yanks. I don't think so honey,
Speaker 1: and his time starts now. I don't think a honey.
Speaker 1: Immunity tablets, immunity councils, vitamin C, specifically airborne. You had
Speaker 1: a chance to stop this whole pandemic from happening if
Speaker 1: you really fucking work. I don't care what kind of
Speaker 1: virus it is. If if there's a cartoon man on
Speaker 1: a plane going, oh, there, coffin next to me, I
Speaker 1: better pop this pill, it would have stopped the pandemic.
Speaker 1: If if if there's a cartoon man who is saying,
Speaker 1: I better take an airborne, you better hope that it
Speaker 1: works and gets what it didn't. You had a moment,
Speaker 1: you had an opportunity. You did not rise to the occasion.
Speaker 1: Airborne invented by a school teacher. Yeah, she's just stuck
Speaker 1: to grading papers. You know what, Airborne gave us a
Speaker 1: that sickness could be managed before at the onset of symptoms.
Speaker 1: And yet look at where we are now. People are
Speaker 1: still dying. We're starting to get COVID treatments. Thank you, sir,
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Air Born really could have stopped
Speaker 1: this whole thing from happening. That's one minute go off.
Speaker 1: If Airborne worked, we would not be in this situation.
Speaker 1: I hadn't even thought of this until now. You're so right.
Speaker 1: If Airborne was what it purported to me, we wouldn't
Speaker 1: be dealing with the worst health crisis in our lifetime.
Speaker 1: It's a delicious drink, but is that enough? So why
Speaker 1: do I have that if it's going to do the
Speaker 1: same thing, not heal me? And sometimes you don't have
Speaker 1: a drink mix you've got an Airborne throw it in there.
Speaker 1: Where do you have Airborne and not sprite? All the time,
Speaker 1: I said what home all the time? I just think,
Speaker 1: egency Airborne, they really could have stopped this. I put
Speaker 1: the blame on them. Do you do you think do
Speaker 1: you think they do anything or do you think it's placebo? Culture.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, I mean I took one today
Speaker 1: because I feel maybe a little I'm just tired. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're run down and run down. But um,
Speaker 1: we'll see if it if it if it goes south,
Speaker 1: then I'll let you know. But if it helps, will
Speaker 1: you be honest? Will be honest? I will, I promise.
Speaker 1: What supplements are you two taking? I'm very curious what's
Speaker 1: like a normal day's supplement for you to? Okay, So
Speaker 1: so what I what I put in my body every
Speaker 1: single day is my prep. I do um a vitamin
Speaker 1: D because I'm actually like when I don't go out
Speaker 1: in the sun all the time, I'm actually a touch
Speaker 1: of vitamin D deficient, which is shocking to me. And
Speaker 1: then I will do a multi vitamin, and I do
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. I as of late, have been
Speaker 1: doing a lot of stuff with my skin, like um,
Speaker 1: you know that sort of thing. But though that's really
Speaker 1: it for me. Skin stuff supplements for your skin, like
Speaker 1: ointments and like ointments, and I'll do like serums and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm some for some reason including it in this banner, Yeah,
Speaker 1: one qualifies a supplement. People take it back, but and
Speaker 1: what about you what are your supplements, and make sure
Speaker 1: to be really specific that their supplements, because it's not
Speaker 1: it's because Matt sucked it up, because don't be like me. No, uh,
Speaker 1: Pure for Men actually makes this men's multi vitem and now,
Speaker 1: oh interesting, it's lovely. Are you shipping hard? Um? It doesn't.
Speaker 1: I don't think it has fiber in it. I just
Speaker 1: think they just happened to have this, like they've expanded
Speaker 1: their product line, and um, you know, I'm really liking it.
Speaker 1: And uh, that's about it. My doctor took me off
Speaker 1: prep because he was saying that it sucked with my
Speaker 1: It sucked with my like liver enzymes or something nothing,
Speaker 1: and I'm just basically like not having sex. He didn't
Speaker 1: give any hope for anything for renewal. No, I mean
Speaker 1: maybe maybe yes, maybe he was just for now, let's
Speaker 1: just like monitor this. And I was like, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: but sorry, you might have to be like, hey, do
Speaker 1: you have a CondoMania? What is that? I don't use one?
Speaker 1: Since what about you, Bridger? What are your supplements? I
Speaker 1: mean I'm asking because this morning I took just a
Speaker 1: generic vitamin and I thought these two might know something
Speaker 1: about supplements. I just don't know that I believe in them.
Speaker 1: I've been taking. I don't think this vitamins are doing
Speaker 1: anything for me, but I'm taking that. I'm taking fiber,
Speaker 1: and that I'm taking uh. I just recently got some
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it is for, like hair and
Speaker 1: nails kind of courts I'm swallowing condoms. The hair and
Speaker 1: nails don't do that. But then you google it and
Speaker 1: of course everyone says, oh, it's all bullshit. But I
Speaker 1: don't want to. I can't live in that world. I
Speaker 1: need to know. I need to have something at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the day that feels like I'm doing something.
Speaker 1: My vitamin D levels got better when I started taking
Speaker 1: vitamin D. I want to say that. Okay, well and
Speaker 1: my iconic doctor um who knows who she is, and
Speaker 1: listen to this podcast. I think, Okay, thank you for
Speaker 1: putting me on vitamin D because my vitamin D went up. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's that simple. There you go. But this is this
Speaker 1: is basically what it is. Bridget. It's like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is doing anything for me, and crazy
Speaker 1: that you would market this product when let's just see
Speaker 1: like it could have stopped this. It could have stopped
Speaker 1: it in its tracks. Yes, when I think, when I
Speaker 1: think about the tragedies of the last year and a
Speaker 1: half two years, I blame Airborne absolutely, and of course
Speaker 1: that Cheetah, let's blame. I do love imagining, like all
Speaker 1: of the alternative if all of these cures that have
Speaker 1: been peddled had been replaced with airborne, if that was
Speaker 1: like what Rogan was encouraging people to, just mixing some airborne.
Speaker 1: No one ever, no one ever goes to airborne. You
Speaker 1: find at the office, you feel under the weather, and
Speaker 1: you're like, sure, sure, Aaron Rodgers was doing all the
Speaker 1: Airborne he expected. It's worth Shelene. Shelene and Aaron, we're
Speaker 1: both doing airborne. Okay, I don't know. I guess I
Speaker 1: have to be down on Shelene again. The roller coaster,
Speaker 1: with the roller coaster, with that one since since she
Speaker 1: appeared in my life, Well that's the story of the
Speaker 1: dam credit coaster. So up and down, she's your she's
Speaker 1: your River's Cuomo Bridgers, I don't think so, honey, I
Speaker 1: think so too. I'm so excited, Bridge, Are you ready?
Speaker 1: I have so many things I could do, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to do one that uh We're just gonna do it,
Speaker 1: and everyone's gonna be mad at me. No, I hope
Speaker 1: so because that you know what that means more clicks
Speaker 1: for us. I hope that. I hope that this is
Speaker 1: really You're not going that they're gonna be like, what
Speaker 1: are you talking? But actually, forget it. People need to
Speaker 1: hear this. Yes, let's do it. This is Bridger Wine guards.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. The dead bird I found in
Speaker 1: my backyard this morning. I'm sorry, but if you're going
Speaker 1: to be a bird in my backyard, you can be
Speaker 1: maybe dying and I can nurse you back to health
Speaker 1: or but you need to be alive and singing. I
Speaker 1: found a dead bird, which I then had to pick
Speaker 1: up with a garden a garden spade, you do. I
Speaker 1: don't have time for a bird burial. And also my
Speaker 1: dog's gonna find it if I bury in the backyard.
Speaker 1: So what I'm what am I doing? I'm walking to
Speaker 1: the trash can and dropping a bird in the trash
Speaker 1: you can. I'm maybe this is more of a no,
Speaker 1: thank you, sweetheart, but I do not want no one
Speaker 1: should have to deal with a dead bird in their backyard.
Speaker 1: It's not unacceptable, and the fact that I had to
Speaker 1: go through that this morning is unheard of. If I
Speaker 1: find if another dead bird ends up in my backyard,
Speaker 1: then I have a problem. Is there a toxic gas?
Speaker 1: What am I doing? I don't think so, honey. I
Speaker 1: think that, and that's one minute, and I think what
Speaker 1: you're dealing with is um toxic gas in your backyard.
Speaker 1: I might be or a cat brought it back, maybe
Speaker 1: a raccoon strangled it to death. There was no sign
Speaker 1: of real trauma, so I don't It feels like the
Speaker 1: bird dropped from the sky into that sold out by
Speaker 1: the way, was completely sold out. Bro. I would have
Speaker 1: done the same thing. I would have dropped it in
Speaker 1: the trash and it's fine. I felt bad not burying it,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if you were never gonna be buried.
Speaker 1: Can I say something? It literally? You probably handled it
Speaker 1: with more care than it would have been handled by nature.
Speaker 1: I don'ould have had that thing decomposing on the side
Speaker 1: of the road, and that's facts a coyote dinner, you know,
Speaker 1: But you think that's better than being plopped in a
Speaker 1: garbage can, dying of natural causes and a gorgeous man's
Speaker 1: backyard in Los Angeles backyard. I would rather be when
Speaker 1: I die devoured by coyotes than put in a trash can.
Speaker 1: Well put that out there. I want that on record. Well,
Speaker 1: you and I do not have that in common. Put
Speaker 1: me in the damn simple human trash can Why don't you? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I to sell out in my bed as an old man.
Speaker 1: That's how I want to sell out. I want to
Speaker 1: sell out of natural causes. We're not using sell out
Speaker 1: as a replacement for as a as a synonym for
Speaker 1: dying not available, honey, check later. Can I just say
Speaker 1: something else that I wanted to say and then you don't?
Speaker 1: Do you want to do another? I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Do you want to be the first person ever do too?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I want to have a nice adult discussion
Speaker 1: about something that is insidious and very subtle in advertising
Speaker 1: right now and on the restaurant menus everything. Let's talk
Speaker 1: the in front of things, the cob salad. My breaking
Speaker 1: point was the other day I was walking through Target
Speaker 1: and I saw the golf pant. Target doesn't have the
Speaker 1: golf pant anyway. Have you noticed this? Have you seen.
Speaker 1: It's like this bizarre like trying to be definitive but
Speaker 1: of casual because it's the it's the lies, it's lies,
Speaker 1: it's we have to start. It drives me out of
Speaker 1: my mind. Keep an ear out for this. Someone has
Speaker 1: referred to someone else, I don't know who, but someone
Speaker 1: was like, they're amazing, they're the article. They're they're the one,
Speaker 1: you know. Like so I think that's that's the way
Speaker 1: of saying they're so exceptional that they're the article. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, no, no, no, no, no, you love it.
Speaker 1: I can see your face right now, you're smarting. No,
Speaker 1: I reject it. I'm having you're seeing a visceral responses.
Speaker 1: I quote it back to you, and I think this
Speaker 1: is what's happening with the adding of the like the
Speaker 1: golf pan It's like, wait, like, what is this obsession
Speaker 1: with There can only be there's one and this is
Speaker 1: it and you and you love it and you reckon
Speaker 1: nice it as the golf pants, right, the platonic version
Speaker 1: of you know, the whatever the chicken sandwich the article though,
Speaker 1: that is going to be comic fourth that's going six
Speaker 1: months from now. Just just just look out for it
Speaker 1: and both of you. Just stay safe out there. Well,
Speaker 1: I think we can agree that Bridger is the article morning,
Speaker 1: how do I become the article? But you didn't even
Speaker 1: have to cry because you came in here today the
Speaker 1: last culture. You were the article. You are the You
Speaker 1: are the You are the number one. And we want
Speaker 1: people to listen to the podcast. I said no gifts,
Speaker 1: the I said no gifts, I said no guests the podcast.
Speaker 1: So do you have a problem with Megan the Stallion?
Speaker 1: Sounds like you do. Know it's a double e. If
Speaker 1: it was the Megan Stallion, no have an issue, everyone
Speaker 1: will be extremely confused. Maybe that's a nice next step
Speaker 1: for her. Yeah, maybe you're right, a little switch real
Speaker 1: prince status. Right, Yeah, that's right, the Megan stall Yes, Bowen,
Speaker 1: what an episode of The Last Coach. This was Bridger.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on. This is a
Speaker 1: delightful conversation. Thank you for having me. I'm sorry to almost,
Speaker 1: you know, to just bring up a second complaint outside
Speaker 1: of the Dead Bird. No, but that I did feel
Speaker 1: like this, if there's ever gonna be a platform that
Speaker 1: we can take that trend down, this is this is
Speaker 1: the place where it begins. And we did it sold
Speaker 1: out everyone listening, sell out, the in front of things
Speaker 1: on menus on you know, catalogs, all of it. We
Speaker 1: don't want that. Call your senator now, stay in line.
Speaker 1: Call your senator, especially if you're an Arizona. Call up
Speaker 1: Kirsten Cinema up. She can get it done. She can,
Speaker 1: all right. We end every episode with the song Yes
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