WEBVTT - The Hometown Stretch!

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyonell welcome back to Better Half the Hour. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Joe and I'm Serena, and today we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the fact that I just watched all the

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<v Speaker 1>Hunger Games. I actually did, I just pinched the Hunger Games.

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<v Speaker 1>They were pretty good. But that's not what we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about today.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to different kind of Hunger Games today.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we are going to recap the episode which was

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<v Speaker 1>Hometown's Serena's favorite favorite episode of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>If you listened to this podcast consistently, you know that

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<v Speaker 3>Hometowns is my least favorite episode of the season, but

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<v Speaker 3>a crucial episode nonetheless, Like I can't imagine this journey

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<v Speaker 3>without a Hometown's episode. Having been a contestant, It's like

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most important weeks I think for the

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<v Speaker 3>contestants getting to connect with their families, getting to have

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<v Speaker 3>the lead meet their families, Like it's absolutely essential.

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<v Speaker 2>But as a viewer, you it's just not my absolute favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine, that's totally fine. You're You're free to feel that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>And then later in the week we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>have Jared Fried on, And if you don't know Jared Freed,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a comedian. He is a special on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>He also is part of the Bachelor and he recaps

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<v Speaker 1>all the episodes on his Instagram page. He's a very

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<v Speaker 1>funny man and we've had him on before and he's

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<v Speaker 1>coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, a long time Bachelor viewer and lover and

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<v Speaker 3>a longtime friend and a longtime friend. We're excited to

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<v Speaker 3>have him. He is super entertaining and very hilarious. It's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a good interview. You won't want to

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<v Speaker 3>miss that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let's kick it off. The episode starts off.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't waste any time. Just instantly we are seeing Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in New Orleans and we are at her hometown.

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<v Speaker 3>We are I've never been to New Orleans. I have

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<v Speaker 3>heard mixed reviews.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, yeah, I've been. I've been there. I've been to

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans, I think twice twice.

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<v Speaker 2>Twice twice. I feel like the only thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to watch The Vampire Diaries and they like

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<v Speaker 3>went to New Orleans in the Vampire Dires. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>this place looks so cool, but it sounds like it's

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<v Speaker 3>like really heavy French food.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you would not do well as far as your stomach.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a big like French cuisine person because I

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<v Speaker 3>just find it all to be incredibly rich and buttery

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<v Speaker 3>and oily, which is delicious, but I usually feel kind

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<v Speaker 3>of sick.

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<v Speaker 1>After they have grilled oysters, which would definitely mess up

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<v Speaker 1>your stomach. But they're incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds amazing. I want to try. Like, what's the like.

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<v Speaker 3>The fish stew from New Orleans or like there's like

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<v Speaker 3>a stew like a crew. Oh, yes, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about. I'm a terrible job of describing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh not gumbo soup.

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<v Speaker 2>Gumbo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh my gosh, I've had gumbo, just to be clear,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It just the name was escaping me.

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<v Speaker 1>But we see Joey and Kelsey eating begnets. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what is No, it's like it's essentially like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>fried dough.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, like a donut.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, it's like a donable. It's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>loaded with powdered sugar and it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I feel like every not every, but a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of cultures have their own take on like a donut. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like the like the Greek

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<v Speaker 3>one is like the lokomades. Do you know what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking about? Like the honey the little Honey doughnuts?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well I also probably just butchered the name, but

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<v Speaker 3>I stand by what I said. I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of different takes on it. I would be

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<v Speaker 3>very dawn to try that.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a favorite donut?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I have a favorite donut? Probably, but like I'd

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<v Speaker 3>have to think about it. I don't even know the

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<v Speaker 3>last doughnut I ate to be honest, Yeah, I do

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<v Speaker 3>you have a favorite donut?

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<v Speaker 1>Chocolate?

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<v Speaker 3>Just a chocolate donut? Do you like it when they're

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<v Speaker 3>more like Bready and Dowe or more cakey.

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<v Speaker 1>More cakey?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I like double chocolate, like chocolate dipped on the top.

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<v Speaker 3>This is so Canadian, but like growing up, I loved

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<v Speaker 3>like the chocolate dipped classic donut for Tim Harty's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who doesn't at Timparts.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like my go to donut for most of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. So do we think joe How do Joey

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<v Speaker 1>and Kelsey? They really seem like they are there meshing

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<v Speaker 1>very well.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, they're giving like boyfriend and girlfriend. Super great

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<v Speaker 3>fit together. The chemistry is there. This is like the

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<v Speaker 3>happiest I feel like we've seen her. She just seems

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<v Speaker 3>so comfortable, so relaxed in her element. Like the difference

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<v Speaker 3>between her like week two to now, I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>we've really seen her personality come through. And I just

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<v Speaker 3>feel like the contestants' personalities never shine through more than

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<v Speaker 3>when they are in their hometown for obvious reasons, Like

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<v Speaker 3>they're just more comfortable. Yeah, and she's just smiling, She's

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<v Speaker 3>jumping around like she is loving life.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like seeing the butterflies. They remind her of

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<v Speaker 1>her mom. And then she saw a butterfly when she

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<v Speaker 1>was interviewing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was a few moments where she saw butterflies

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<v Speaker 3>because I think her and Joey were standing on the bridge.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, I want to see one.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, and She's like, look because it reminds her of

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<v Speaker 3>her mom, which honestly I can't talk about because I'll

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<v Speaker 3>start crying.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, Joey to me, Joey seems the most relaxed.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've said this before, but seems the most

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable in himself.

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<v Speaker 2>With Kelsey totally, I agree, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Even when they were like eating Begnetes. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There was just like a shot of where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>he just seems like he's living his life opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>being the bachelor.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree. They just seem like a great fit. I

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<v Speaker 3>really like them together. They're very cute.

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<v Speaker 1>We go to Kelsey's house. It's her brother, her sister,

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<v Speaker 1>and her dad. You know, like you kind of I

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<v Speaker 1>think when you watch Hometowns, you kind of like hope

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<v Speaker 1>that like the families either like crazy or mean just

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<v Speaker 1>for a little just like if some entertainment, but like

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't be more welcoming and warm.

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<v Speaker 3>And oh my god, her dad was like amazing, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I loved her dad so much. I was like, this

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<v Speaker 3>guy seems like he's the best.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's nice. It's nice like when the family gets

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<v Speaker 1>it like it's the worst when you when you walk in,

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<v Speaker 1>when when they walk in and the family's like, well

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what this is, and it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well you should have done your reasons like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what do you mean, Like your kid's been gone

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<v Speaker 3>for weeks and you don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>So like it is nice when like like Joey had

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation with the father, and he was just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like he honestly, he was just nice and like

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<v Speaker 1>understanding and like he completely got that there's other women

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<v Speaker 1>there and I think he respects. Joey, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, also has handled the conversations with all

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<v Speaker 1>the parents like so well, Like it was it's the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in a while where I've seen a lead

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<v Speaker 1>like really take control.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree, I absolutely agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, he's the best bachelor in terms of the way

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<v Speaker 3>he's handled hometown specifically that we've seen in a really

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<v Speaker 3>long time. Like I was unbelievably impressed with how he

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<v Speaker 3>handled every single conversation. He like was proactive and comforting

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<v Speaker 3>the parents. If he felt like there was hesitation, he

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<v Speaker 3>was upfront with them. There was no bs, which I

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<v Speaker 3>do find a lot of the leads do. But he

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<v Speaker 3>just was very smooth about his delivery and there was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of confidence and you could tell that the

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<v Speaker 3>parents responded really well to him. And I almost wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to be like Joey, like, could you do not great?

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<v Speaker 3>Not as good of a job? Like this is getting

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<v Speaker 3>to be boring, Like every parent just loves you and

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<v Speaker 3>because they love them and it's just it's going so well.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I was very impressed, Like you said, he

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<v Speaker 2>was just he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Just very confident in his delivery and like what came

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<v Speaker 1>out of his mouth, it just all and like as

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<v Speaker 1>a parent, that had to make them feel a little comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>like this guy, this guy at least knows what he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing in this situation totally.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't think he's told anyone he's falling in

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<v Speaker 3>love with them.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's been really close lipped.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, sorry, my brain just completely stopped for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been he's been tight left about his feelings, which

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<v Speaker 3>probably makes it easier going to home, just being like,

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't told anyone how I feel because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to set anyone up for failure. Whereas when they

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<v Speaker 3>go in and they're like, oh, well I told some

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<v Speaker 3>of the women that I'm falling in love with them,

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<v Speaker 3>the parents are always like, well why did you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>But the convo goes really well with Kelsey's dad. He

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<v Speaker 3>also just kind of seems like the dad that's like

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<v Speaker 3>if she wants to get engaged, great, if she doesn't,

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<v Speaker 3>no problem, Like I'm fully supportive of her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he just wants his daughter to be happy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he's not like he just seems like he

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<v Speaker 3>really trusts his daughter too, And you could.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell he's somebody that he's been through a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>he you know, understands life. I guess just like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a chance you're gonna get your heart broken, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And if you want to continue pursuing this, like

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<v Speaker 3>that's the right decision, and I trust you to make

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<v Speaker 3>those decisions and I support you no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like any parents should want their child to

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<v Speaker 1>go through heartbreak. But it's just part of life. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like you, they have to experience it. Most

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<v Speaker 1>likely are they going to experience it at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like it's okay because you're you're going to survive.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent. And he actually does say he hopes

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<v Speaker 3>that she's engaged at the end of this, Like he

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<v Speaker 3>explicitly says, like, I hope she comes home engaged, like

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<v Speaker 3>if that's what she wants. If he gets down on one knee,

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<v Speaker 3>like he obviously really liked Joey and he felt good

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<v Speaker 3>about the whole thing. And then Kelsey in her interview

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the date says that she loves Joey, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but not to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, she.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems super happy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's just a really nice, happy, positive one on one,

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<v Speaker 3>great first start.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, I agree. Okay, So then we go to Rachel's

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<v Speaker 1>family and.

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<v Speaker 2>Rancho Cucamongo, Yeah, always.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes me think of Rodney always California from Hawaii. This one,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we were gonna it was gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>little we were gonna see a little more like pushback

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<v Speaker 1>because at the beginning, Rachel's like my family is super traditional.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like my dad's not really for this format,

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<v Speaker 3>and like she went in with a lot of nerves,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think her family was more relaxed than she

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<v Speaker 3>expected them to be, which kind of happened to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that there was gonna be more pushback from

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<v Speaker 3>my family, and they were like more relaxed than I

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<v Speaker 3>expect it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and I think, yeah, I think they were

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<v Speaker 1>very emotional family. I think the whole I think Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know exactly what happened in Rachel's past relation

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<v Speaker 1>and ship, but it must have been pretty intense because.

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<v Speaker 3>Well she said she they were almost engaged, like it

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<v Speaker 3>was a really serious relationship and you could.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell like the family just doesn't want to see her

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<v Speaker 1>go through that again, which would make them more reserved

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<v Speaker 1>over the situation. But yeah, I thought it was Joey

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<v Speaker 1>got along with the whole family. I thought they were

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<v Speaker 1>having fun. They were hanging out in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's so cute. Loved her family, loved her parents

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<v Speaker 3>or sister, her nephew. They were all playing backyard games.

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<v Speaker 3>They were eating. Was it like a pig on a spot? Yeah, sick.

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<v Speaker 2>You loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked like honestly, I was like, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>be on this hometown date Like this just looks like

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of fun and a really enjoyable family to

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<v Speaker 3>be a part of.

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<v Speaker 1>And like they said, even though they are traditional, they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, this is our daughter. If this is what

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<v Speaker 1>she wants, then we're happy for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the dad doesn't give his blessing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Joey basically was like, got to ask, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>if it's her at the end, you can give me

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<v Speaker 3>a call.

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<v Speaker 2>She's got my number, but I'm not going to give

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<v Speaker 2>it to now.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the mom, which makes sense totally, he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to give you the blessing with like

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<v Speaker 3>when you're dating four girls, which is fine. Always, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like we usually see at least one dad say that,

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<v Speaker 3>and the mom definitely has some like hesitancy about the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing, but you know, she like loves your daughter,

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<v Speaker 3>and it all ends on.

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<v Speaker 2>A good note. Yeah, yeah, and then Rachel's emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel at the end hasn't told Joey how she feels,

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<v Speaker 1>and she finally opens up, which, yeah, it's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>She said she's falling in love with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about them?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think they're I like them. I like her

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>She's just been like consistent right the whole season. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like I think I said at the beginning, like she's

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<v Speaker 3>just like screams, I'm a wife, I'm wife material, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like ready for this, And I still feel that way

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<v Speaker 3>about her.

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<v Speaker 1>I just she just for me. She seems she's just

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<v Speaker 1>very smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally like and just like emotionally she's very mature.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I don't know, I feel like it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to compare because, like Kelsey is so bubbly and giddy,

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like that side of Joey comes out

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<v Speaker 3>when they're together as well. Whereas Rachel still has like

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<v Speaker 3>a great personality but has more of like a chill personality.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's hard to like compare the connections.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's also like what we see and what

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<v Speaker 1>we don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally we don't.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think he also is really comfortable with her,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think from what we've seen, she really like

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<v Speaker 3>understands him as a person. Yeah, like some of the

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<v Speaker 3>comments she makes and just the way they interact, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like she sees him for who he is, and like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a good thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's jump to the Christmas Tree Farm, the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>place on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so cute and magical.

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<v Speaker 1>Daisy grew up on a Christmas tree.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. I mean, if she doesn't make it at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know. For me, it's like this

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<v Speaker 1>could definitely be the Bachelor at a field of daisies

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<v Speaker 1>holding one rose. Oh, I love it. Yeah. Or she's

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<v Speaker 1>in a field of daisies that are in a red

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<v Speaker 1>dress holding holding her red rose.

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<v Speaker 2>Cute. I love it. And there's Christmas trees like way

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<v Speaker 2>in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>Did should really hire us for.

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<v Speaker 2>The for the marketing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? For this great Okay, what do we think Daisy's

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<v Speaker 1>friends are there? She seems happy to see her her friends.

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<v Speaker 1>The most important thing is her family, and she said

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<v Speaker 1>she's been through a lot and she really wants like

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<v Speaker 1>she would not move forward with Joey if her family

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like him. Yeah she said that multiple times.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, she said it.

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<v Speaker 1>Many times, which kind of feels her.

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<v Speaker 3>Family wasn't gonna like him, because I honestly, like everyone's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna like Joey.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about her family not liking him. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's more of like her family's just not comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>and they can't get on board, Like it would be

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<v Speaker 1>very hard for me too. I just think I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if Daisy it's it's really like Daisy just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how much Daisy's into Joey. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>if she does say that she's falling in love with

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<v Speaker 1>him at the end of this. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's really taken her a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I feel like a lot of people will say, like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>like that's real, and like that is because like she's

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<v Speaker 3>so like round and down to earth, like it's too

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<v Speaker 3>fast to fall in love. But it's like everyone else

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<v Speaker 3>does it, you know what I mean, Like people do

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<v Speaker 3>do it, People do fall in love in this amount

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<v Speaker 3>of time, in this process, and like if you can't, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it might be like oh well, like that she might

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<v Speaker 3>just be like too normal for it all. But it

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<v Speaker 3>also might just mean like it's not her person, but

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<v Speaker 3>she is getting there. She's just getting there slowly. I

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<v Speaker 3>do think they're kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she getting there because she has the beginning? Like

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<v Speaker 1>is in her? Like it does she feel pressure that

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<v Speaker 1>she's this far along and like she wants to get there?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone else is there, she should be there, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she thinks she is.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe she might like she's influenced by her surroundings. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>well I know, like even though you don't know where

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<v Speaker 3>everyone else is at necessarily like they're not hanging out

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<v Speaker 3>the girls anymore. Like this was the week I sent

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<v Speaker 3>myself home, and I remember going into the week pretty

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<v Speaker 3>aware that like I was not where everyone else was,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I really wasn't, Like I was so like I

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<v Speaker 3>would be surprised if she didn't have a kind of

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<v Speaker 3>gauge on where all the other women are feeling. And

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like where Rachel is with Joey and

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<v Speaker 3>where Kelsey A is with Joey, like it's obvious Daisy

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<v Speaker 3>is a step or two behind what they're feeling and

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<v Speaker 3>where those relationships are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't think she's behind.

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<v Speaker 1>No, well, I mean I'm I I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 1>something missing. But like Rachel also just said, she's the

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<v Speaker 1>first time she's saying it too. But for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>it just feels like something's missing with Daisy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what that is.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's because with Rachel, Rachel isn't like second

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<v Speaker 3>guessing where she's at with him.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just like, this is the pace we're moving at.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel good, Like there's more of a positive tone

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<v Speaker 3>when she talks about her feelings for Joey. There's not

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<v Speaker 3>really any like concern or hesitation about if she's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get there, and she's pretty like strong about like I

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<v Speaker 3>hope it's him and I at the end of this,

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas Daisy, it feels like she's always like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>where I'm at, but and there's like hesitation in her

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<v Speaker 3>tone if she's gonna get there, if she's like moving

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<v Speaker 3>in the right direction, if things are going to go

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<v Speaker 3>towards an engagement with him, like you can feel that

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like with her a little bit. She also

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<v Speaker 3>said to her friends, like, I'm really good at about

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<v Speaker 3>opening up with my feelings to you guys and my family,

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<v Speaker 3>but like maybe not so much in relationships, which was

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<v Speaker 3>interesting to me because I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I would just I'd be curious.

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<v Speaker 3>To know more about like her dating history, because I'd

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<v Speaker 3>be curious to know if she's been like that in

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<v Speaker 3>the past with relationships where she's just always had that

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<v Speaker 3>issue of like opening up and moving at a certain pace.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'd also be curious to know if her family

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<v Speaker 3>has reacted a certain way to guys she's brought home,

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<v Speaker 3>because if like there's been guys in the past she's

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<v Speaker 3>brought home that didn't gel with her family, like that

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<v Speaker 3>could be contributing to this dynamic of her being like, ah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how this is gonna go, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>can't fully commit until I know where my family stands.

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<v Speaker 3>Like there might be some background information in some context

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<v Speaker 3>here that we're missing, but from what we're seeing and

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<v Speaker 3>the information we're given, I don't have one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 3>confidence if she's into him or not, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think she does either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, I agree. I agree, so, but family likes Joey.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything wents there nothing really to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 3>The mom and the dad were like, let down your walls, girl,

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<v Speaker 3>like fall in love with him. It's okay, like the

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<v Speaker 3>vulnerable like they were great. They were super supportive.

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<v Speaker 1>And the mom, I think I said when we were

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<v Speaker 1>watching it, the mom like, yeah, this this woman definitely

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<v Speaker 1>has watched the show before, like she knows what is

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<v Speaker 1>going on right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one hundred percent, which always makes it a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more comfortable at the hometown date when it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>these guys watch the show.

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<v Speaker 2>They get what's happening here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cool, Okay, let's go to Niagara Falls Maria.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Maria's not from Niagara Falls, just to be clear.

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<v Speaker 3>And they did it in the US side. They didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even do it on the Canadian side. It was Niagara,

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<v Speaker 3>New York, not Niagara Buffalo on Terry.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I don't know, not Buffalo. Sorry, that's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming it must have been a filming issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. They were like, we can get the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>on both sides. Why the border. Yeah, but they they

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<v Speaker 2>do the Maid of the Mess. Have you ever done

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<v Speaker 2>the Maid of the mist before.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been to Niagara Falls.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh we should go. It's it's cute. Niagara on the

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<v Speaker 3>Lake is cute. It's very like, it's very no desire

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<v Speaker 3>to really why not. It's really beautiful, especially in the summer.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very picturesque. Yeah, maybe we'll go.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of it is a little tacky, like it's like

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<v Speaker 3>can be like it's very casino.

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<v Speaker 2>We yeah, and like a lot of chains.

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<v Speaker 1>I love casinos.

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<v Speaker 3>Like there's like you're gonna see like Bubba Gump Shrimp.

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<v Speaker 3>It's giving like Times Square Vegas like yeah, kind of esthetic.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a tourist trap.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But then Niagara on the Lake.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe my geography is like never really accurate, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure I'm right. Is like more like wineries

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<v Speaker 3>and cute hotels and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice. Okay, so they have chose like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't care, I'm not going.

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<v Speaker 3>You couldn't have cared less when I was talking just now,

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<v Speaker 3>like your eyes were glazed over and you were like

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<v Speaker 3>just waiting till I shut up to be like all right,

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<v Speaker 3>moving on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I mean, I mean, don't try to deny it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we don't have to go.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Maria and Joey like a cruise for me. Joe's

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<v Speaker 3>never going to get on the cruise either.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So she has the conversation about telling this is

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<v Speaker 1>the first time she's telling Joey that she never brought

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<v Speaker 1>anyone home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we knew that as the audience, but

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize that he didn't know that, which is

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<v Speaker 3>She's not the first contestant to be like, hey, I've

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<v Speaker 3>never brought anyone home before, but it's shocking that she's

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<v Speaker 3>saying it, like right before they go meet the family.

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<v Speaker 2>He seemed pretty stunned.

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<v Speaker 1>It was this. I think it started last week, but

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<v Speaker 1>the vibes between Joey and Maria just seem off at

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<v Speaker 1>this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Joey more than ever, is like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if this spark that we have, this fun, playful dynamic

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<v Speaker 3>can overcome the issues that we have also, and they've

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<v Speaker 3>had kind of a rocky ride the whole time. But

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<v Speaker 3>I really think that last week she voiced some insecurities

0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:25.320
<v Speaker 3>and was like, I don't know if I could do

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<v Speaker 3>this anymore, and was basically kind of trying to send

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<v Speaker 3>herself home, but like wasn't all in on the decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you could tell he was like, all right, so

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<v Speaker 2>is this it? Like are you leaving?

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<v Speaker 3>Which I think is kind of the first clue that

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<v Speaker 3>like maybe it's not Maria. Like he wasn't really putting

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<v Speaker 3>up a fight for it.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like, yeah, yeah, how I feel like how

0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Daisy feels about Joey. Joey feels about Maria.

0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like they have a connection.

0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 3>They're attracted to each other as a spark, but like,

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:59.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's going deeper than that at this point,

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<v Speaker 3>for I thinks a change.

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<v Speaker 1>Meet the family, even though she ends up getting sent home,

0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 1>but really, you know family, big Greek family. But really,

0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean I thought the family was great. I really

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I really liked the dad.

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:17.399
<v Speaker 3>I thought I really liked her dad too. Yeah, and

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 3>they have such a wonderful dynamic.

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.879
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was great. I really liked his conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Joey. I liked how he handled it. It definitely

0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:29.280
<v Speaker 1>made it seem in the preview or trailer for the

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<v Speaker 1>episodes that the dad was going to kind of be

0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:36.399
<v Speaker 1>like a dick, even though and he was like the

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<v Speaker 1>complete opposite. I thought he was great.

0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.720
<v Speaker 3>I thought, well, he started off the convo kind of

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<v Speaker 3>not going in on Joey but just having a hard,

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:46.919
<v Speaker 3>serious chat with him about like what's going on. And

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<v Speaker 3>I could tell Joey was like because he was kind

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 3>of like, well, I don't know. And Joey was like, well, okay,

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.920
<v Speaker 3>let me help you, like, let me give you some information.

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.439
<v Speaker 1>And I think he like really respected.

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<v Speaker 3>That me too, And I thought they had a great

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<v Speaker 3>conversation and it went really well.

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I liked her dad a lot.

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Me too. I thought he was great, like I actually

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I really liked him. I was like, oh, I really

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:06.359
<v Speaker 1>like this guy.

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Maria was really emotional, a lot of tears, both like happy, sad,

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 3>scared all in one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, And then we see I thought her.

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<v Speaker 3>Best friend was her sister for like the first half

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 3>of the hometown. They kind of look alike.

0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think she's Greek. Yeah, so I mean I assume,

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:26.639
<v Speaker 1>but I could be wrong. She just looks Greek.

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 3>They don't look alike, You're right, they just both look

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 3>like they're Greek, and they both have dark, like almost

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 3>black hair.

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 1>But Maria does not tell Joey how she feels.

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 3>No, and I feel like it was all set up

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 3>perfectly for her to do that, because it's like the

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 3>date went so well, and then they watched this little

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 3>montage of her as a kid.

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you know what I saw in TikTok.

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:47.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if this is going to resonate with

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 3>you because you probably haven't seen this movie. But I'm

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 3>scrolling through TikTok and do you know the movie The

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 3>Pacifier with Vin Diesel.

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's in it.

0:24:57.320 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Really, yes, she plays one of the girl scouts because

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 3>the like second youngest kid that he's taken care of.

0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 3>He becomes their like dead mother or whatever, and they're

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 3>getting picked on by the boys and she is like

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:11.360
<v Speaker 3>one of.

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 2>The girls here.

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:16.119
<v Speaker 3>She's like three lines. I was like, this is crazy.

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I know, I watched that bee like a million times

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:18.400
<v Speaker 2>as a kid.

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:20.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm just scrolling through TikTok and then all of a sudden,

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:21.959
<v Speaker 3>it's like Maria in the Passifier.

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I know that's cool.

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 3>I told my sister. She was like, I saw that

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.359
<v Speaker 3>like three weeks ago. I was like, okay, never mind.

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:32.880
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so she doesn't see how she feels, and

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I think then we go to the airplane hangar.

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 3>I love this rostrum relication. I know that it's like

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:41.199
<v Speaker 3>been used a whole bunch, but I just think it

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:43.159
<v Speaker 3>looks so iconic.

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>It's just so dramatic.

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 3>I know it's giving, it's like dripping in drama.

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 1>So right before Joey's about to give out the roses,

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Maria pulls to the side. You could see the other girls.

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Rachel is ready to throw hands.

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 3>She's so mad, which I don't blame her, because this

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 3>happened like little last week where he pulled Maria's side

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 3>right before the Rose ceremony. Maria's dress, her green dress

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:08.159
<v Speaker 3>from the last ros ceremony, and then this purple dress

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 3>were insane, but specifically this purple dress, like she looked

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:15.919
<v Speaker 3>amazing the high slit, like I was like, this is unbelievable.

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I was probably freezing in that Hangarun'd assuming.

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:22.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh, one hundred percent. I remember the last Row ceremony

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:25.679
<v Speaker 3>I was at. It was so cold, and you're standing

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 3>there in these little dresses and strappy heels, trying to

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 3>look cute while you're freezing your ass off.

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>And that was probably another reason why Rachel's like really.

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent.

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 3>She's like, I've been standing here for thirty minutes already,

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm freezing cold.

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Like, but I mean, Maria missed the opportunity. She didn't

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>do it. She didn't do it when she had the opportunity.

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.479
<v Speaker 1>So she's like, this is my one last chance. And

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you could just see when she was saying it in

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Joey's face.

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 2>He was kind of like, I think she knew in

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 2>that moment she was going home.

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I think she knew by his response, yeah, because he

0:26:55.920 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't even like smile. He was just kind of no.

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 3>He was like almost like fuck, like like you're going

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:05.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm about to send this girl home, and now she's

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 3>like confessing her feelings to me. Do you think she

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 3>went into that night knowing she was gonna pull Joey

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 3>or do you think it was like a game time decision?

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:18.199
<v Speaker 1>Uh? The way she i I want to say she knew,

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>but like I feel like the way she clapped clapped,

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 1>like she went like she she'd clap seemed kind of spontaneous.

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 3>Like she was like, oh my gosh, she's about to

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 3>hand out the first row. Was like it's now or never.

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think she might have like yeah, yeah,

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 1>I think she might have like maybe she thought she

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>was gonna do it at the beginning and then decided

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>like she backed out, and then right at the end

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>she's like, fuck it, I'm gonna do it.

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I think it was the right decision. I mean, like,

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 3>if I was one of the other girls, I'd be

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 3>super pissed. But if I'm in Marie issues, like, I

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 3>think she did the right thing because she was gonna

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 3>go home. I think either way that night, and had

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 3>he not given her row, she would have always wondered

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 3>if it was because she didn't open up to him. Yeah,

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 3>and if she had would have made a difference. So

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 3>at least she can leave with no regret. She left

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 3>all her cards on the table. I actually was kind

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 3>of surprised she went home. I didn't really know who

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 3>I thought he was gonna send home at this road ceremony.

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:20.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought Maria was going was going to Fantasy Suites.

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 3>I've had a hard time the last like two weeks

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 3>predicting who's gonna be Final four and now who was

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 3>going to be Final three, just because his connections are

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 3>quite strong with everyone.

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 1>I thought Maria was going to Fantasy Suites until Niagara Falls,

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and it just felt like it just felt like the

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>vibes between those two were just and.

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 2>All his concerns were coming to the surface.

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think it was kind of over from there.

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what I.

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 3>Thought, Yeah, especially after the way he handled their argument.

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Last week, and I don't think where he.

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Was kind of like it almost like he was making

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 3>peace with her sending herself home, and it's hard to

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 3>then like backtrack from there.

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:00.719
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think like her last second effort, like

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I think she should have did it too, because I

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>agree with like not like leaving with no regrets. Yeah,

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and I think that would have sucked to left thinking that,

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>like if I would have said it, maybe maybe, but

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I just yeah, I don't. I didn't think it was

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna work it and it didn't, and Maria went home.

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 2>I was dying though at Rachel when she came back in.

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 2>She was like what was that about?

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 3>And Maria was like, I don't know. She was like,

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 3>you don't know, you just pulled him and you don't

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 3>know why. She was like, what is going on?

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was like, thank you Rachel for asking.

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, she doesn't he sends Maria home.

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 3>She doesn't seem that like I think she was either

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 3>in shock or she was standing there being like it's me,

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm going home based on the conversation we just happen,

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 3>because she was like almost like there wasn't a huge

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 3>emotional response from her, and I feel like we've seen

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 3>her be really emotional all season.

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think she. I think she realized

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>when she pulled Joey, she realized that that she was

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna get she would going to get the rose, and

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>she's like, okay, I just in her head, I think

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>she went like, Okay, A flip switched and she's like,

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I just got rejected.

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Switch flipped.

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>What did I say?

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 2>A flip switch switched?

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>A switch flip and she was just.

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Like okay, like it's not me, brace yourself, be.

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Tough, like it's not you, Like that's it, move on.

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's what she did, and I think

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>that's why we don't really see her get emotional, even

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.719
<v Speaker 1>though I'm sure at some point on her own she

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>probably was.

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally.

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I think that was for the camera, which I think

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>most people would what.

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 2>You thought she was kind of like being tough for

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 2>the camera.

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess I'm but I'm also like putting myself

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>in that situation, and I feel like if it was me,

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, Okay, it's it's not you like fucking

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>tough enough right now?

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, but that's very specific to you. I

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 3>think you're projecting.

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>A little bit. Maybe, but she might have been that process.

0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm projecting, just speculating. Well, hopefully we don't

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>know what we're talking you know, we're guessing the whole time.

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully when we eventually have Marie on the podcast, we'll

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 3>be able to ask her more about it.

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because there's so much that happened with her this season.

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, she has been a huge storyline from episode

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 3>one to now, so I'm looking forward to eventually getting

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 3>to chat with her and also just getting to see

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 3>what she has to say a woman tell all.

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll see and then there, I would say, there's

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>definitely going to be a push for her to be

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:28.719
<v Speaker 1>the next Bachelorette.

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've been seeing a lot of people online

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 3>rooting for her to be the next bachelorette.

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 2>So maybe we'll see.

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>We'll see. Okay, guys, thank you very much for listening

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