1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hey, everyonell welcome back to Better Half the Hour. I'm 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena, and today we're going to be 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: talking about the fact that I just watched all the 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Hunger Games. I actually did, I just pinched the Hunger Games. 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: They were pretty good. But that's not what we'll be 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: talking about today. 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: We are going to different kind of Hunger Games today. 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Today we are going to recap the episode which was 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: Hometown's Serena's favorite favorite episode of the season. 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: If you listened to this podcast consistently, you know that 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: Hometowns is my least favorite episode of the season, but 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 3: a crucial episode nonetheless, Like I can't imagine this journey 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: without a Hometown's episode. Having been a contestant, It's like 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: one of the most important weeks I think for the 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: contestants getting to connect with their families, getting to have 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: the lead meet their families, Like it's absolutely essential. 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: But as a viewer, you it's just not my absolute favorite. 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: Fine, that's totally fine. You're You're free to feel that way. 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, You're welcome. 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: And then later in the week we are going to 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: have Jared Fried on, And if you don't know Jared Freed, 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: he is a comedian. He is a special on Netflix. 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: He also is part of the Bachelor and he recaps 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: all the episodes on his Instagram page. He's a very 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: funny man and we've had him on before and he's 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: coming back. 27 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, a long time Bachelor viewer and lover and 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: a longtime friend and a longtime friend. We're excited to 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 3: have him. He is super entertaining and very hilarious. It's 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: going to be a good interview. You won't want to 31 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: miss that one. 32 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: Okay, So let's kick it off. The episode starts off. 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: They don't waste any time. Just instantly we are seeing Kelsey. 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: We're in New Orleans and we are at her hometown. 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: We are I've never been to New Orleans. I have 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: heard mixed reviews. 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I've been. I've been there. I've been to 38 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: New Orleans, I think twice twice. 39 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: Twice twice. I feel like the only thing. 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: I used to watch The Vampire Diaries and they like 41 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: went to New Orleans in the Vampire Dires. I was like, 42 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: this place looks so cool, but it sounds like it's 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: like really heavy French food. 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you would not do well as far as your stomach. 45 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: I'm not a big like French cuisine person because I 46 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: just find it all to be incredibly rich and buttery 47 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 3: and oily, which is delicious, but I usually feel kind 48 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: of sick. 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: After they have grilled oysters, which would definitely mess up 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: your stomach. But they're incredible. 51 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: That sounds amazing. I want to try. Like, what's the like. 52 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: The fish stew from New Orleans or like there's like 53 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: a stew like a crew. Oh, yes, you know what 54 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: I'm talking about. I'm a terrible job of describing it. 55 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: Oh not gumbo soup. 56 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: Gumbo. 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my gosh, I've had gumbo, just to be clear, 58 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: and I know what it is. 59 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: It just the name was escaping me. 60 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: But we see Joey and Kelsey eating begnets. You know 61 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: what is No, it's like it's essentially like it's like 62 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: fried dough. 63 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: Oh, like a donut. 64 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's like a donable. It's it's it's 65 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: loaded with powdered sugar and it's just. 66 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: Like I feel like every not every, but a lot 67 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 3: of cultures have their own take on like a donut. Yeah, 68 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like the like the Greek 69 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: one is like the lokomades. Do you know what I'm 70 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: talking about? Like the honey the little Honey doughnuts? 71 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. 72 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: Okay, well I also probably just butchered the name, but 73 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 3: I stand by what I said. I feel like there's 74 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: a lot of different takes on it. I would be 75 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: very dawn to try that. 76 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 2: It looks delicious. 77 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite donut? 78 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: Do I have a favorite donut? Probably, but like I'd 79 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: have to think about it. I don't even know the 80 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: last doughnut I ate to be honest, Yeah, I do 81 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: you have a favorite donut? 82 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: Chocolate? 83 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: Just a chocolate donut? Do you like it when they're 84 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: more like Bready and Dowe or more cakey. 85 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: More cakey? 86 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 87 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: I like double chocolate, like chocolate dipped on the top. 88 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: This is so Canadian, but like growing up, I loved 89 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: like the chocolate dipped classic donut for Tim Harty's. 90 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, who doesn't at Timparts. 91 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: Was like my go to donut for most of my life. 92 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: That's great. So do we think joe How do Joey 93 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: and Kelsey? They really seem like they are there meshing 94 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: very well. 95 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're giving like boyfriend and girlfriend. Super great 96 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: fit together. The chemistry is there. This is like the 97 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: happiest I feel like we've seen her. She just seems 98 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: so comfortable, so relaxed in her element. Like the difference 99 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 3: between her like week two to now, I feel like 100 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: we've really seen her personality come through. And I just 101 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: feel like the contestants' personalities never shine through more than 102 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: when they are in their hometown for obvious reasons, Like 103 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: they're just more comfortable. Yeah, and she's just smiling, She's 104 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: jumping around like she is loving life. 105 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: And I like seeing the butterflies. They remind her of 106 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: her mom. And then she saw a butterfly when she 107 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: was interviewing. 108 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a few moments where she saw butterflies 109 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: because I think her and Joey were standing on the bridge. 110 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: He was like, I want to see one. 111 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: Too, and She's like, look because it reminds her of 112 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: her mom, which honestly I can't talk about because I'll 113 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 3: start crying. 114 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: I will say, Joey to me, Joey seems the most relaxed. 115 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: I think I've said this before, but seems the most 116 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: comfortable in himself. 117 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: With Kelsey totally, I agree, Like. 118 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: Even when they were like eating Begnetes. I don't know. 119 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: There was just like a shot of where I'm like, 120 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: he just seems like he's living his life opposed to 121 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: being the bachelor. 122 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: I agree. They just seem like a great fit. I 123 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 3: really like them together. They're very cute. 124 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: We go to Kelsey's house. It's her brother, her sister, 125 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: and her dad. You know, like you kind of I 126 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: think when you watch Hometowns, you kind of like hope 127 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: that like the families either like crazy or mean just 128 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: for a little just like if some entertainment, but like 129 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: they couldn't be more welcoming and warm. 130 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: And oh my god, her dad was like amazing, Like 131 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: I loved her dad so much. I was like, this 132 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: guy seems like he's the best. 133 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: And it's nice. It's nice like when the family gets 134 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: it like it's the worst when you when you walk in, 135 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: when when they walk in and the family's like, well 136 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't even know what this is, and it's like, okay, 137 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: well you should have done your reasons like this. 138 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: Like what do you mean, Like your kid's been gone 139 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 3: for weeks and you don't know what's going on. 140 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: So like it is nice when like like Joey had 141 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: a conversation with the father, and he was just kind 142 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: of like he honestly, he was just nice and like 143 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: understanding and like he completely got that there's other women 144 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: there and I think he respects. Joey, by the way, 145 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: in my opinion, also has handled the conversations with all 146 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: the parents like so well, Like it was it's the 147 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: first time in a while where I've seen a lead 148 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: like really take control. 149 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: Agree, I absolutely agree. 150 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: Honestly, he's the best bachelor in terms of the way 151 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: he's handled hometown specifically that we've seen in a really 152 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: long time. Like I was unbelievably impressed with how he 153 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: handled every single conversation. He like was proactive and comforting 154 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: the parents. If he felt like there was hesitation, he 155 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: was upfront with them. There was no bs, which I 156 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: do find a lot of the leads do. But he 157 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: just was very smooth about his delivery and there was 158 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: a lot of confidence and you could tell that the 159 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: parents responded really well to him. And I almost wanted 160 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: to be like Joey, like, could you do not great? 161 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: Not as good of a job? Like this is getting 162 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: to be boring, Like every parent just loves you and 163 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: because they love them and it's just it's going so well. 164 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, I was very impressed, Like you said, he 165 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: was just he was. 166 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: Just very confident in his delivery and like what came 167 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: out of his mouth, it just all and like as 168 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: a parent, that had to make them feel a little comfortable, 169 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: like this guy, this guy at least knows what he's 170 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: doing in this situation totally. 171 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think he's told anyone he's falling in 172 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: love with them. 173 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: No, he's been really close lipped. 174 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, my brain just completely stopped for a second. 175 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: He's been he's been tight left about his feelings, which 176 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: probably makes it easier going to home, just being like, 177 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: I haven't told anyone how I feel because I don't 178 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: want to set anyone up for failure. Whereas when they 179 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: go in and they're like, oh, well I told some 180 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: of the women that I'm falling in love with them, 181 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: the parents are always like, well why did you do that? 182 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: But the convo goes really well with Kelsey's dad. He 183 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: also just kind of seems like the dad that's like 184 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: if she wants to get engaged, great, if she doesn't, 185 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: no problem, Like I'm fully supportive of her. 186 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, he just wants his daughter to be happy. 187 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's not like he just seems like he 188 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: really trusts his daughter too, And you could. 189 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: Tell he's somebody that he's been through a lot and 190 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: he you know, understands life. I guess just like there's 191 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: a chance you're gonna get your heart broken, but that's okay. 192 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you want to continue pursuing this, like 193 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 3: that's the right decision, and I trust you to make 194 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: those decisions and I support you no matter what. 195 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: It's not like any parents should want their child to 196 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: go through heartbreak. But it's just part of life. No, 197 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: it's just like you, they have to experience it. Most 198 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: likely are they going to experience it at some point. 199 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: It's just like it's okay because you're you're going to survive. 200 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And he actually does say he hopes 201 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 3: that she's engaged at the end of this, Like he 202 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: explicitly says, like, I hope she comes home engaged, like 203 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: if that's what she wants. If he gets down on one knee, 204 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: like he obviously really liked Joey and he felt good 205 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: about the whole thing. And then Kelsey in her interview 206 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: at the end of the date says that she loves Joey, Yeah, 207 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: but not to him. 208 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, she. 209 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 2: Seems super happy. 210 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 3: It's it's just a really nice, happy, positive one on one, 211 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: great first start. 212 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: Sure, I agree. Okay, So then we go to Rachel's 213 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: family and. 214 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: Rancho Cucamongo, Yeah, always. 215 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: Makes me think of Rodney always California from Hawaii. This one, 216 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna it was gonna be a 217 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: little we were gonna see a little more like pushback 218 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: because at the beginning, Rachel's like my family is super traditional. 219 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like my dad's not really for this format, 220 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: and like she went in with a lot of nerves, 221 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: and I think her family was more relaxed than she 222 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: expected them to be, which kind of happened to me. 223 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: I thought that there was gonna be more pushback from 224 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: my family, and they were like more relaxed than I 225 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: expect it. 226 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I think, yeah, I think they were 227 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: very emotional family. I think the whole I think Obviously 228 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: we don't know exactly what happened in Rachel's past relation 229 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: and ship, but it must have been pretty intense because. 230 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: Well she said she they were almost engaged, like it 231 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: was a really serious relationship and you could. 232 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: Tell like the family just doesn't want to see her 233 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: go through that again, which would make them more reserved 234 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: over the situation. But yeah, I thought it was Joey 235 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: got along with the whole family. I thought they were 236 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: having fun. They were hanging out in the backyard. 237 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: No, it's so cute. Loved her family, loved her parents 238 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 3: or sister, her nephew. They were all playing backyard games. 239 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: They were eating. Was it like a pig on a spot? Yeah, sick. 240 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: You loved it. 241 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: It looked like honestly, I was like, I want to 242 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: be on this hometown date Like this just looks like 243 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: a lot of fun and a really enjoyable family to 244 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: be a part of. 245 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: And like they said, even though they are traditional, they 246 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: were like, this is our daughter. If this is what 247 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: she wants, then we're happy for her. 248 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the dad doesn't give his blessing. 249 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Joey basically was like, got to ask, and he's like, 250 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: if it's her at the end, you can give me 251 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: a call. 252 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: She's got my number, but I'm not going to give 253 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: it to now. 254 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: And then the mom, which makes sense totally, he's like, 255 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: I'm not going to give you the blessing with like 256 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: when you're dating four girls, which is fine. Always, I 257 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: feel like we usually see at least one dad say that, 258 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: and the mom definitely has some like hesitancy about the 259 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: whole thing, but you know, she like loves your daughter, 260 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: and it all ends on. 261 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 2: A good note. Yeah, yeah, and then Rachel's emotional. 262 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: Rachel at the end hasn't told Joey how she feels, 263 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: and she finally opens up, which, yeah, it's a good thing. 264 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: She said she's falling in love with them. 265 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 266 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: What do you think about them? 267 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 2: Do you think they're I like them. I like her 268 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 2: a lot, a lot. 269 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: She's just been like consistent right the whole season. And yeah, 270 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: like I think I said at the beginning, like she's 271 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: just like screams, I'm a wife, I'm wife material, I'm 272 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: like ready for this, And I still feel that way 273 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 3: about her. 274 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: I just she just for me. She seems she's just 275 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: very smart. 276 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: Totally like and just like emotionally she's very mature. 277 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know, I feel like it's hard 278 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: to compare because, like Kelsey is so bubbly and giddy, 279 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: and I feel like that side of Joey comes out 280 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: when they're together as well. Whereas Rachel still has like 281 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: a great personality but has more of like a chill personality. 282 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: So it's hard to like compare the connections. 283 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also like what we see and what 284 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: we don't. 285 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: Totally we don't. 286 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: But I think he also is really comfortable with her, 287 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: and I think from what we've seen, she really like 288 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: understands him as a person. Yeah, like some of the 289 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 3: comments she makes and just the way they interact, I 290 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: feel like she sees him for who he is, and like, 291 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: I think that's a good thing, you know. 292 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: Okay, let's jump to the Christmas Tree Farm, the greatest 293 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: place on Earth. 294 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: It was so cute and magical. 295 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: Daisy grew up on a Christmas tree. 296 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: I know. 297 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: Wow. I mean, if she doesn't make it at the end, 298 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. For me, it's like this 299 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: could definitely be the Bachelor at a field of daisies 300 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: holding one rose. Oh, I love it. Yeah. Or she's 301 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: in a field of daisies that are in a red 302 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: dress holding holding her red rose. 303 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: Cute. I love it. And there's Christmas trees like way 304 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: in the background. 305 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: Did should really hire us for. 306 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: The for the marketing? 307 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? For this great Okay, what do we think Daisy's 308 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: friends are there? She seems happy to see her her friends. 309 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: The most important thing is her family, and she said 310 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: she's been through a lot and she really wants like 311 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: she would not move forward with Joey if her family 312 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: didn't like him. Yeah she said that multiple times. 313 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she said it. 314 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: Many times, which kind of feels her. 315 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: Family wasn't gonna like him, because I honestly, like everyone's 316 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: gonna like Joey. 317 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't know about her family not liking him. I 318 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: think it's more of like her family's just not comfortable 319 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: and they can't get on board, Like it would be 320 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: very hard for me too. I just think I don't 321 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: know if Daisy it's it's really like Daisy just don't 322 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: know how much Daisy's into Joey. And I think that's 323 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: if she does say that she's falling in love with 324 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: him at the end of this. But I feel like 325 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: it's really taken her a long time. 326 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like a lot of people will say, like, oh, well, 327 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: like that's real, and like that is because like she's 328 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: so like round and down to earth, like it's too 329 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: fast to fall in love. But it's like everyone else 330 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: does it, you know what I mean, Like people do 331 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: do it, People do fall in love in this amount 332 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: of time, in this process, and like if you can't, yes, 333 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: it might be like oh well, like that she might 334 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: just be like too normal for it all. But it 335 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: also might just mean like it's not her person, but 336 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: she is getting there. She's just getting there slowly. I 337 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: do think they're kid. 338 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: Is she getting there because she has the beginning? Like 339 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: is in her? Like it does she feel pressure that 340 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: she's this far along and like she wants to get there? 341 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: Everyone else is there, she should be there, so maybe 342 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: she thinks she is. 343 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: Maybe she might like she's influenced by her surroundings. Yeah, 344 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: well I know, like even though you don't know where 345 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: everyone else is at necessarily like they're not hanging out 346 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: the girls anymore. Like this was the week I sent 347 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: myself home, and I remember going into the week pretty 348 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: aware that like I was not where everyone else was, 349 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: Like I really wasn't, Like I was so like I 350 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: would be surprised if she didn't have a kind of 351 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: gauge on where all the other women are feeling. And 352 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: I just feel like where Rachel is with Joey and 353 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 3: where Kelsey A is with Joey, like it's obvious Daisy 354 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: is a step or two behind what they're feeling and 355 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: where those relationships are. 356 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean. 357 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: You don't think she's behind. 358 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: No, well, I mean I'm I I feel like there's 359 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: something missing. But like Rachel also just said, she's the 360 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: first time she's saying it too. But for whatever reason, 361 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: it just feels like something's missing with Daisy, and I 362 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: don't know what that is. 363 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 3: I think it's because with Rachel, Rachel isn't like second 364 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: guessing where she's at with him. 365 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: She's just like, this is the pace we're moving at. 366 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: I feel good, Like there's more of a positive tone 367 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 3: when she talks about her feelings for Joey. There's not 368 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 3: really any like concern or hesitation about if she's gonna 369 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 3: get there, and she's pretty like strong about like I 370 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 3: hope it's him and I at the end of this, 371 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: Whereas Daisy, it feels like she's always like, this is 372 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: where I'm at, but and there's like hesitation in her 373 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 3: tone if she's gonna get there, if she's like moving 374 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: in the right direction, if things are going to go 375 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: towards an engagement with him, like you can feel that 376 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 3: I feel like with her a little bit. She also 377 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: said to her friends, like, I'm really good at about 378 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: opening up with my feelings to you guys and my family, 379 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 3: but like maybe not so much in relationships, which was 380 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: interesting to me because I don't know. 381 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: I would just I'd be curious. 382 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: To know more about like her dating history, because I'd 383 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: be curious to know if she's been like that in 384 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: the past with relationships where she's just always had that 385 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 3: issue of like opening up and moving at a certain pace. 386 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: And I'd also be curious to know if her family 387 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: has reacted a certain way to guys she's brought home, 388 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 3: because if like there's been guys in the past she's 389 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: brought home that didn't gel with her family, like that 390 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: could be contributing to this dynamic of her being like, ah, 391 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: I don't know how this is gonna go, Like I 392 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: can't fully commit until I know where my family stands. 393 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 3: Like there might be some background information in some context 394 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 3: here that we're missing, but from what we're seeing and 395 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: the information we're given, I don't have one hundred percent 396 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: confidence if she's into him or not, and I don't 397 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 3: think she does either. 398 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I agree. I agree, so, but family likes Joey. 399 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: Everything wents there nothing really to talk about that. 400 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: The mom and the dad were like, let down your walls, girl, 401 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: like fall in love with him. It's okay, like the 402 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: vulnerable like they were great. They were super supportive. 403 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: And the mom, I think I said when we were 404 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: watching it, the mom like, yeah, this this woman definitely 405 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: has watched the show before, like she knows what is 406 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: going on right now. 407 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent, which always makes it a little 408 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 3: bit more comfortable at the hometown date when it's like, Okay, 409 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: these guys watch the show. 410 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: They get what's happening here. 411 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, cool, Okay, let's go to Niagara Falls Maria. 412 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: Okay, Maria's not from Niagara Falls, just to be clear. 413 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: And they did it in the US side. They didn't 414 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: even do it on the Canadian side. It was Niagara, 415 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: New York, not Niagara Buffalo on Terry. 416 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know, not Buffalo. Sorry, that's I'm 417 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: assuming it must have been a filming issue. 418 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. They were like, we can get the same thing 419 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 2: on both sides. Why the border. Yeah, but they they 420 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: do the Maid of the Mess. Have you ever done 421 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: the Maid of the mist before. 422 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: I've never been to Niagara Falls. 423 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: Oh we should go. It's it's cute. Niagara on the 424 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: Lake is cute. It's very like, it's very no desire 425 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: to really why not. It's really beautiful, especially in the summer. 426 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: It's very picturesque. Yeah, maybe we'll go. 427 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 2: I don't know. 428 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 3: Some of it is a little tacky, like it's like 429 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 3: can be like it's very casino. 430 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 2: We yeah, and like a lot of chains. 431 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: I love casinos. 432 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: Like there's like you're gonna see like Bubba Gump Shrimp. 433 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 3: It's giving like Times Square Vegas like yeah, kind of esthetic. 434 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: It's a tourist trap. 435 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. But then Niagara on the Lake. 436 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: I believe my geography is like never really accurate, but 437 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I'm right. Is like more like wineries 438 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 3: and cute hotels and stuff like that. 439 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: Nice. Okay, so they have chose like I. 440 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: Don't care, I'm not going. 441 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: You couldn't have cared less when I was talking just now, 442 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: like your eyes were glazed over and you were like 443 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 3: just waiting till I shut up to be like all right, 444 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: moving on. 445 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: It's funny. 446 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 2: No, no, I mean, I mean, don't try to deny it. 447 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: I know we don't have to go. 448 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 3: It's Maria and Joey like a cruise for me. Joe's 449 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: never going to get on the cruise either. 450 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: Okay, So she has the conversation about telling this is 451 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: the first time she's telling Joey that she never brought 452 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: anyone home. 453 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is crazy. 454 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 3: I feel like we knew that as the audience, but 455 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 3: I didn't realize that he didn't know that, which is 456 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 3: She's not the first contestant to be like, hey, I've 457 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 3: never brought anyone home before, but it's shocking that she's 458 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: saying it, like right before they go meet the family. 459 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: He seemed pretty stunned. 460 00:21:54,680 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: It was this. I think it started last week, but 461 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: the vibes between Joey and Maria just seem off at 462 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: this point. 463 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, Joey more than ever, is like, I don't know 464 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: if this spark that we have, this fun, playful dynamic 465 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: can overcome the issues that we have also, and they've 466 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: had kind of a rocky ride the whole time. But 467 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 3: I really think that last week she voiced some insecurities 468 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: and was like, I don't know if I could do 469 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 3: this anymore, and was basically kind of trying to send 470 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 3: herself home, but like wasn't all in on the decision. 471 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could tell he was like, all right, so 472 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 2: is this it? Like are you leaving? 473 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 3: Which I think is kind of the first clue that 474 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 3: like maybe it's not Maria. Like he wasn't really putting 475 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: up a fight for it. 476 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: It felt like, yeah, yeah, how I feel like how 477 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: Daisy feels about Joey. Joey feels about Maria. 478 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, like they have a connection. 479 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: They're attracted to each other as a spark, but like, 480 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: I don't think it's going deeper than that at this point, 481 00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: for I thinks a change. 482 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: Meet the family, even though she ends up getting sent home, 483 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: but really, you know family, big Greek family. But really, 484 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean I thought the family was great. I really 485 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: I really liked the dad. 486 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 3: I thought I really liked her dad too. Yeah, and 487 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: they have such a wonderful dynamic. 488 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 489 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: I thought he was great. I really liked his conversation 490 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: with Joey. I liked how he handled it. It definitely 491 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: made it seem in the preview or trailer for the 492 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: episodes that the dad was going to kind of be 493 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: like a dick, even though and he was like the 494 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: complete opposite. I thought he was great. 495 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: I thought, well, he started off the convo kind of 496 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 3: not going in on Joey but just having a hard, 497 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 3: serious chat with him about like what's going on. And 498 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 3: I could tell Joey was like because he was kind 499 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: of like, well, I don't know. And Joey was like, well, okay, 500 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 3: let me help you, like, let me give you some information. 501 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: And I think he like really respected. 502 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 3: That me too, And I thought they had a great 503 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: conversation and it went really well. 504 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I liked her dad a lot. 505 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: Me too. I thought he was great, like I actually 506 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: I really liked him. I was like, oh, I really 507 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: like this guy. 508 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: Maria was really emotional, a lot of tears, both like happy, sad, 509 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: scared all in one. 510 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, And then we see I thought her. 511 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 3: Best friend was her sister for like the first half 512 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: of the hometown. They kind of look alike. 513 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: Well, I think she's Greek. Yeah, so I mean I assume, 514 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: but I could be wrong. She just looks Greek. 515 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: They don't look alike, You're right, they just both look 516 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: like they're Greek, and they both have dark, like almost 517 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: black hair. 518 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: But Maria does not tell Joey how she feels. 519 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: No, and I feel like it was all set up 520 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: perfectly for her to do that, because it's like the 521 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 3: date went so well, and then they watched this little 522 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: montage of her as a kid. 523 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know what I saw in TikTok. 524 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is going to resonate with 525 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: you because you probably haven't seen this movie. But I'm 526 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: scrolling through TikTok and do you know the movie The 527 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 3: Pacifier with Vin Diesel. 528 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's in it. 529 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: Really, yes, she plays one of the girl scouts because 530 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: the like second youngest kid that he's taken care of. 531 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 3: He becomes their like dead mother or whatever, and they're 532 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: getting picked on by the boys and she is like 533 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 3: one of. 534 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: The girls here. 535 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 3: She's like three lines. I was like, this is crazy. 536 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: I know, I watched that bee like a million times 537 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 2: as a kid. 538 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 3: I'm just scrolling through TikTok and then all of a sudden, 539 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 3: it's like Maria in the Passifier. 540 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: Wow, I know that's cool. 541 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: I told my sister. She was like, I saw that 542 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 3: like three weeks ago. I was like, okay, never mind. 543 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, so she doesn't see how she feels, and 544 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: I think then we go to the airplane hangar. 545 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 3: I love this rostrum relication. I know that it's like 546 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 3: been used a whole bunch, but I just think it 547 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 3: looks so iconic. 548 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: It's just so dramatic. 549 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: I know it's giving, it's like dripping in drama. 550 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: So right before Joey's about to give out the roses, 551 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: Maria pulls to the side. You could see the other girls. 552 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 2: Rachel is ready to throw hands. 553 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 3: She's so mad, which I don't blame her, because this 554 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 3: happened like little last week where he pulled Maria's side 555 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 3: right before the Rose ceremony. Maria's dress, her green dress 556 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 3: from the last ros ceremony, and then this purple dress 557 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: were insane, but specifically this purple dress, like she looked 558 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 3: amazing the high slit, like I was like, this is unbelievable. 559 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: I was probably freezing in that Hangarun'd assuming. 560 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent. I remember the last Row ceremony 561 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 3: I was at. It was so cold, and you're standing 562 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: there in these little dresses and strappy heels, trying to 563 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: look cute while you're freezing your ass off. 564 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: And that was probably another reason why Rachel's like really. 565 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. 566 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 3: She's like, I've been standing here for thirty minutes already, 567 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 3: I'm freezing cold. 568 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: Like, but I mean, Maria missed the opportunity. She didn't 569 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: do it. She didn't do it when she had the opportunity. 570 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 1: So she's like, this is my one last chance. And 571 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: you could just see when she was saying it in 572 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: Joey's face. 573 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 2: He was kind of like, I think she knew in 574 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: that moment she was going home. 575 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: I think she knew by his response, yeah, because he 576 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: just couldn't even like smile. He was just kind of no. 577 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: He was like almost like fuck, like like you're going 578 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 3: I'm about to send this girl home, and now she's 579 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 3: like confessing her feelings to me. Do you think she 580 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: went into that night knowing she was gonna pull Joey 581 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 3: or do you think it was like a game time decision? 582 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: Uh? The way she i I want to say she knew, 583 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: but like I feel like the way she clapped clapped, 584 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: like she went like she she'd clap seemed kind of spontaneous. 585 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 3: Like she was like, oh my gosh, she's about to 586 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: hand out the first row. Was like it's now or never. 587 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think she might have like yeah, yeah, 588 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: I think she might have like maybe she thought she 589 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: was gonna do it at the beginning and then decided 590 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: like she backed out, and then right at the end 591 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: she's like, fuck it, I'm gonna do it. 592 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 593 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: Maybe I think it was the right decision. I mean, like, 594 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 3: if I was one of the other girls, I'd be 595 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 3: super pissed. But if I'm in Marie issues, like, I 596 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: think she did the right thing because she was gonna 597 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 3: go home. I think either way that night, and had 598 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: he not given her row, she would have always wondered 599 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 3: if it was because she didn't open up to him. Yeah, 600 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 3: and if she had would have made a difference. So 601 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: at least she can leave with no regret. She left 602 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: all her cards on the table. I actually was kind 603 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: of surprised she went home. I didn't really know who 604 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna send home at this road ceremony. 605 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Maria was going was going to Fantasy Suites. 606 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: I've had a hard time the last like two weeks 607 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 3: predicting who's gonna be Final four and now who was 608 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: going to be Final three, just because his connections are 609 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: quite strong with everyone. 610 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: I thought Maria was going to Fantasy Suites until Niagara Falls, 611 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: and it just felt like it just felt like the 612 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: vibes between those two were just and. 613 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: All his concerns were coming to the surface. 614 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it was kind of over from there. 615 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: That's kind of what I. 616 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: Thought, Yeah, especially after the way he handled their argument. 617 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: Last week, and I don't think where he. 618 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: Was kind of like it almost like he was making 619 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: peace with her sending herself home, and it's hard to 620 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 3: then like backtrack from there. 621 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 1: And I don't think like her last second effort, like 622 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 1: I think she should have did it too, because I 623 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: agree with like not like leaving with no regrets. Yeah, 624 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: and I think that would have sucked to left thinking that, 625 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: like if I would have said it, maybe maybe, but 626 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: I just yeah, I don't. I didn't think it was 627 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: gonna work it and it didn't, and Maria went home. 628 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: I was dying though at Rachel when she came back in. 629 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: She was like what was that about? 630 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: And Maria was like, I don't know. She was like, 631 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: you don't know, you just pulled him and you don't 632 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: know why. She was like, what is going on? 633 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, thank you Rachel for asking. 634 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: So, yeah, she doesn't he sends Maria home. 635 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: She doesn't seem that like I think she was either 636 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: in shock or she was standing there being like it's me, 637 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: I'm going home based on the conversation we just happen, 638 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 3: because she was like almost like there wasn't a huge 639 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: emotional response from her, and I feel like we've seen 640 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: her be really emotional all season. 641 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think she. I think she realized 642 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: when she pulled Joey, she realized that that she was 643 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: gonna get she would going to get the rose, and 644 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: she's like, okay, I just in her head, I think 645 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: she went like, Okay, A flip switched and she's like, 646 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: I just got rejected. 647 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: Switch flipped. 648 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: What did I say? 649 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: A flip switch switched? 650 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: A switch flip and she was just. 651 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: Like okay, like it's not me, brace yourself, be. 652 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: Tough, like it's not you, Like that's it, move on. 653 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: And I think that's what she did, and I think 654 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: that's why we don't really see her get emotional, even 655 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 1: though I'm sure at some point on her own she 656 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: probably was. 657 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 658 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: I think that was for the camera, which I think 659 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: most people would what. 660 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: You thought she was kind of like being tough for 661 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: the camera. 662 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm but I'm also like putting myself 663 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: in that situation, and I feel like if it was me, 664 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, it's it's not you like fucking 665 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: tough enough right now? 666 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but that's very specific to you. I 667 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: think you're projecting. 668 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: A little bit. Maybe, but she might have been that process. 669 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm projecting, just speculating. Well, hopefully we don't 670 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: know what we're talking you know, we're guessing the whole time. 671 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 3: Hopefully when we eventually have Marie on the podcast, we'll 672 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: be able to ask her more about it. 673 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's so much that happened with her this season. 674 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 3: I mean, she has been a huge storyline from episode 675 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: one to now, so I'm looking forward to eventually getting 676 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: to chat with her and also just getting to see 677 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: what she has to say a woman tell all. 678 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see and then there, I would say, there's 679 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: definitely going to be a push for her to be 680 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 1: the next Bachelorette. 681 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I've been seeing a lot of people online 682 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 3: rooting for her to be the next bachelorette. 683 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: So maybe we'll see. 684 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: We'll see. Okay, guys, thank you very much for listening 685 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: to the happy hour that is our episode. To make 686 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: sure you tune in later this week because we're gonna 687 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: have comedian Jared Freed on the podcast to give his 688 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: breakdown on the entire. 689 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: Season, and be sure to subscribe. 690 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: We have new and exclusive interviews every single week. 691 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Bye,